the thing about 1t 5m is that you are garaunteed that the APL is good
#fury
gilded pawn
molten relic
Yes 5t 2min with mirror
nova garnet
You use sims to help figure out how to itemize and talent for different situations
molten relic
Good sim
nova garnet
People read sim and think, hey that's my class performance
Then you see brown do 40% gap on purple š±
dense elbow
Nah, ppl check logs for optimal class performance. Sims for performance scenario data
nova garnet
The actual number the sim shits out is lukewarm usefulness
It's just an insanely powerful tool for itemization
We have no feasible way to feelcraft what extra 238 vers feels like vs 238 crit
wanton mirage
Realistically 1T sim is making most sense for Fury this tier. since it reflects our prio dmg and boss dmg. our AoE is shit anyway whether you optimized it or not. Just swap aoe trinkets and we gucci.
nova garnet
Due to variance and we'll, sorites paradox. We're kind of shit at detecting small changes
warm crag
past pivot
I think itās funny/sad when people do scuffed sims and then come around posting stuff like: āItās obvious Mirror is far better than Might or even Augury in m+. You can sim it and see the difference for yourself.ā
eternal sundial
You yapped about mirror being sim bait sir
warm crag
mirror fucks tho
eternal sundial
Id also call that funny
gleaming coral
I was just thinking why my might/pipās combination is simming better than any other (bar augury). Am i being baited?
dense elbow
Might is BiS, as might just makes your burst stronger. As you always burst AoE, it is always good value.
Might is mighty
eternal sundial
Might isnt bis 
There's no fully optimal setup in keys
You change based on needs
dense elbow
Always might, it got might in the name.
upbeat sentinel
dense elbow
Might will never let you down, it is always there for you. Buffing you in your time of need.
Mirror isn't even there half of the time 
gilded pawn
Might isnt bis <:weird:718676218500874320>
bis is raid decanter+OWS
:chatting:
fuck
eternal sundial
Bro encanter went so hard
flat sapphire
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3vbnEfiy1xyrv8GsjKyKCL
is this low sim for 485 or am I on the right track
eternal sundial
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3vbnEfiy1xyrv8GsjKyKCL
is this low sim fo...
Low
flat sapphire
slightly low
oke thank you
ember apex
decanter dropped from M+ and skulkers was CN
eternal sundial
I simmed 231 at ur ilvl
ember apex
oke thank you
looking at ur items
ember apex
~228k-236k imo
flat sapphire
this my stats
eternal sundial
decanter dropped from M+ and skulkers was CN
The good trinket from SoD bro
flat sapphire
Something that isnt more rare than finding a unicorn in the wild
dense elbow
Ya need more versa
flat sapphire
I know but panda
eternal sundial
(dont)
flat sapphire
eternal sundial
Run a topgear and droptimizer to see if u can grind some shit from keys
Like rezans
ember apex
haste enchant on ring is almost certainly wrong. pants leg armor should me mainstat + stamina not armor (doesnt affect DPS)
try simming a replacement for seal of the regal loa w/ a crafted ring (try vers/mastery)
dense elbow
Brh neck š
eternal sundial
haste enchant on ring is almost certainly wrong. pants leg armor should me mains...
Amor gains dps
dense elbow
Armor is DPS
clever path
Something that isnt more rare than finding a unicorn in the wild
swap to ret
ember apex
ok
hardy cargo
haste enchant on ring is almost certainly wrong. pants leg armor should me mains...
it does affect your dps
ember apex
that comment was incorrect
ember apex
also check neck w/ crafted
eternal sundial
But swap legs to stamina to not be a rat
flat sapphire
haste enchant on ring is almost certainly wrong. pants leg armor should me mains...
Yea that was from my old sim
ember apex
ok pog
flat sapphire
always says Too many combinations
wanton mirage
i have Volacross Rare neck. Its fire dmg shield can be proced by my self-nature dmg from raging flask
flat sapphire
when I do top sim
ember apex
then just do 1 item slot at a time, gear compare like 5 different crafted necks
hardy cargo
do you have "replace gems and enchants" perma checked?
eternal sundial
always says Too many combinations
Premium Moment
wanton mirage
so I have a chance to get fire dmg shield if i stand in smoldy ring with rage flask š
dense elbow
Vers/mast is almost guaranteed to be bis, just sim that vs haste/mast. Save yourself some hoops
ember apex
Premium Moment
š¤£
wanton mirage
ik. its just funny interaction with that not-so-useful-passive neck
dense elbow
It is a funny interaction for sure
wanton mirage
iam sure its 120k shield
hardy cargo
semantics but his reaction would be pretty gold
I may need on neck when I see it next and ask mine lmao
flat sapphire
not a lot
eternal sundial
Worth getting
hardy cargo
I still equip might over rezans on some fights. smolderon, larry. gnarlroot
flat sapphire
do you raid?
I do both
dense elbow
Just use might in m+, be happy 
hardy cargo
Always optimize for sim dps number
yes robot right 100% of time I do no critical thinking
why critical think when can critical strike
eternal sundial
yes robot right 100% of time I do no critical thinking
Nono.. Just get number up for ego
Rest doesnt matter
clever path
be sure to unclick dungeon slice cause ppeople will be bandwagon mode
warm crag
make sure to also play the prio that dslice uses
tardy lark
Nono.. Just get number up for ego
Wrong class then
solemn plover
Hey fellow warriors! I was just simming my stat weights and I think we are sleeping on hasteā¦ IMAGINE having permanent lust for a fight. This is why I think the robot is WRONG for once and I think we should drop our mastery for haste.
After all why hit harder when you can hit faster.
tardy lark
dense elbow
Hey fellow warriors! I was just simming my stat weights and I think we are sleep...
Go for it
eternal sundial
Hey fellow warriors! I was just simming my stat weights and I think we are sleeping on hasteā¦ IMAGINE having permanent lust for a fight. This is why I think the robot is WRONG for once and I think we should drop our mastery for haste.
After all why hit harder when you can hit faster.
wanton mirage
Hey fellow warriors! I was just simming my stat weights and I think we are sleeping on hasteā¦ IMAGINE having permanent lust for a fight. This is why I think the robot is WRONG for once and I think we should drop our mastery for haste.
After all why hit harder when you can hit faster.
compact siren
Hey fellow warriors! I was just simming my stat weights and I think we are sleep...
True AND real
eternal sundial
@tardy lark simgaard what do i alt for high number
chilly gorge
whats the best stat for mirror ro proc in m+ scenario?
clever path
Hey fellow warriors! I was just simming my stat weights and I think we are sleep...
oh its ok mate, here unclick lust and you know, next time you post your sim we are still going to go ape shit because your buffs arent all ticked
tardy lark
<@198808002629730304> simgaard what do i alt for high number
Play outlaw like a machine
wanton mirage
HASTE RATING IS real bad luck protection. people with highest rating get leggo faster
tardy lark
Broken ass spec
dense elbow
HASTE RATING IS real bad luck protection. people with highest rating get leggo f...
Omg I just checked it is true!!?!
clever path
its ok most people in here dont play warrior and just are here because they are finally accepted into 17s after 999 declines and boast their dps
wanton mirage
Real
hardy cargo
its ok most people in here dont play warrior and just are here because they are ...
its ok I dont play warrior either
dense elbow
If you get declined from 17s, you shouldn't be here. You should be in WoW farming your own key and raid groups for gear
wanton mirage
300 days AFK
hardy cargo
300 days AFK
ive spent 300 days afk since bc
eternal sundial
I havent ran my own key in about 7 weeks
dense elbow
If you didn't have 300 days in 2005, did you even play the game?
eternal sundial
Actually nvm i did recently forgor about that
hardy cargo
I only do my key for sales or if friends want it for io
hardy cargo
cuts are pretty shit rn, but its quick gold
clever path
I only do my key for sales or if friends want it for io
not bad, atleast you get gold
while others deplete theirs cause of some arms warrior
hardy cargo
but also, all cuts are shit rn even raid
wanton mirage
Selling keys seems so turbo worthless
8 keys selling per week. no more no less
clever path
but also, *all* cuts are shit rn even raid
facts
hardy cargo
they fell off really hard really fast this tier
clever path
end of season always like that inb4
wanton mirage
pocket gold per week
eternal sundial
but also, *all* cuts are shit rn even raid
Ye but i gotta raid anyways
hardy cargo
end of season always like that inb4
yeah, but it happened a lot faster than normal this tier
eternal sundial
Might as well get a good log
ember apex
u wont get good logs boosting
hardy cargo
Ye but i gotta raid anyways
I would do unsaved raid sales every week if I had augury LOL
eternal sundial
Hate raid pugs
ember apex
b/c as a booster ur a mechanics andy
hardy cargo
u wont get good logs boosting
wrong
dense elbow
It is a very easy tier, so ofc prices dip, fast. As more ppl can perform that service, so more competition
ember apex
link me ur boosted logs then
molten relic
I mean
ember apex
u boosted that?
molten relic
A mf in here posted a 9min fyrakk kill
hardy cargo
abberus was my best tier and I boosted a lot as u can see i have like 30+ kills on every boss
molten relic
Whwre he did 300k dps cause they had 10 Carries
hardy cargo
u boosted that?
yea go thru look at all my best theres like 10 dead ppl
or if not dead theyre doing like 50k dps
molten relic
Lot more time to pad when 1/3 the group is doing nothing
hardy cargo
^
eternal sundial
Adds scale more too
molten relic
^
clever path
tells wife "i ll go play wow with the boys"
plays warrior
applies to keys
3 hours pass, its midnight
Okay time to go sleep
eternal sundial
Why wouldnt he
ember apex
idk
tacit crag
Most all top logs are boosts right now are they not
dense elbow
> tells wife "i ll go play wow with the boys"
> plays warrior
> applies to keys
...
Her: "Hunny? Why don't you do your own keys?"
Him: 
molten relic
Specially this late into the season
ember apex
b/c i boosted in sod right before they banned it and i was doing all the mechanics like fatescribe rings and shit like that
eternal sundial
Most all top logs are boosts right now are they not
Ive gotten 99s in pugs just fine on most bosses
ember apex
Sanctum of Domination not season of discovery
molten relic
That doesnāt sound like a phd in dps
eternal sundial
But some are hard to get
ember apex
i mean its what im ordered to do and im being paid so...
molten relic
But also ur never gonna parse fatescribe if ur doing all the mechanics
Thatās a bad example
ember apex
like KT we could slam but i always got sent down
ember apex
also the boosting community gave me a gold bonus every raid b/c i had 0 mechanics fails and did a bunch of BS work during raid for the group
so
hardy cargo
b/c i boosted in sod right before they banned it and i was doing all the mechani...
you get fucked a lot, but you blast when u get good kills
ember apex
it was worth
eternal sundial
I dont enjoy boosting nymue
molten relic
And KT didnāt even have valid logs for all stars
hollow elk
Ive gotten 99s in pugs just fine on most bosses
Some pugs are so bad that you go in with your zug If brain and suddenly you're getting pi and draktyr buffs cuz everyone else is terrible
molten relic
I dont enjoy boosting nymue
Have u done the nymue achievement
hardy cargo
ive only boosted 1 hc run this tier then relegated myself to not boosting again until I had all the gear I needed from HC
molten relic
The butterfly has one of the most agregious knock back mechanics
Ngl I havenāt done sales since nathria
I miss it but we donāt do sales anymore with my guild
ember apex
Have u done the nymue achievement
the butterfly thing?
molten relic
Yes
eternal sundial
Have u done the nymue achievement
Nah
ember apex
yeah i did it
wild mural
Guess who has a legendary axe and a fractured spine (but no augury)
molten relic
I got leggo before augury too
dense elbow
Carrying S2 to victory proved too much
covert blaze
Spine broke
Understandable have a great day
wild mural
Real
sage hamlet
just to get it confirmed, did they patch out us being able to taunt bait the crushing depths cast?
mob just seems to change target now even if i have aggro
sage smelt
Is farming Ember worth it?
I kinda have shit trinkets, is it more just sit and pray and wait for Augury?
Everything is hero except Crab/Hourglass are 489.
ember apex
just to get it confirmed, did they patch out us being able to taunt bait the cru...
i never thought that was a thing
wild mural
Is farming Ember worth it?
I kinda have shit trinkets, is it more just sit and ...
Your trinkets are solid
sage hamlet
i never thought that was a thing
ive done it without a problem in the past
worked every time
nimble basin
Yeah dude. Branches, might, and signet are great
ember apex
''wait for augury" i killed sark every single week in s2 on heroic and never got cloak or beacon
wild mural
Whatās ember? Ashes of the embers?
hardy cargo
Is farming Ember worth it?
I kinda have shit trinkets, is it more just sit and ...
w8 for augury, ashes of embersoul 2m trink on 1.5m class kinda poopy
oblique trail
Nullification
ember apex
Ashes of the Embersoul i assume
wild mural
''wait for augury" i killed sark every single week in s2 on heroic and never got...
I didnāt get cloak and I got mythic beacon on CE kill
sage smelt
Yes, thats what I meant.
ember apex
that's pog
hardy cargo
god damn they need better names for those trinkets
ember apex
but like the concept of 'waiting' u may never get it is all im saying
sage smelt
w8 for augury, ashes of embersoul 2m trink on 1.5m class kinda poopy
It'll be like S2 all over again, beacon last week of s2 that i couldn't even upgrade 
wild mural
Iām gladge I got my beacon
nimble basin
but like the concept of 'waiting' u may never get it is all im saying
Agreed. Make due with what you have, don't bet on possibility.
wild mural
Even if itās kinda poopy on warrior
hardy cargo
Personally, with that trinket set up I wouldnt even worry about farming it, just bc you know youre going to replace it so I wouldnt sit there spamming my time into brh
coarse nest
BRH ember is good because itās consistent value vs the rng of other options
hardy cargo
but if you really want it go for it
sage smelt
So using crab/might on MT, and Rezens/brand on 5min+ ST, and rezans/might on short ST
coarse nest
You donāt need to worry about having brh ember in your weekly keys
hardy cargo
I ran rezans a lot in early season keys just bc I didnt feel like grinding out better knowing augury is out there
ember apex
omg imagine if they did this
gilded pawn
imagine if they fixed it missing
sage smelt
We still have like 15 people rolling on augury, its basically a hopeful vault at this point.
And when someone gets one, they swap to their alt for the next kill and we start the process over
ember apex
my guild stopped doing heroic like week 4 or something like that
fucken have to pug every week
hardy cargo
are u mythic raiding? if yall are extrnding you can just do hc every week and eventually in vault
sage smelt
we are not a mythic guild lol
hardy cargo
if ur guild is letting alts take it they're trolling
we roll off every piece /shrug
sage smelt
just heroic clears
coarse nest
And when someone gets one, they swap to their alt for the next kill and we start...
Peoples alts should not get it over mains if itās a guild group
That is so yikes
sage smelt
tell that to the social guild /cringe
ember apex
we roll off every piece /shrug
might as well pug on main, bring ur shit alt to heroic and get geared while rolling against raiding mains lulw
coarse nest
I would have left that garbonzo asap
wild mural
Peoples alts should not get it over mains if itās a guild group
Real
sage smelt
were gonna find something better for next expac i just didn't feel like going through the motions yet
ember apex
good heroic pugs full clear in like 1hr30mins
hardy cargo
might as well pug on main, bring ur shit alt to heroic and get geared while roll...
I pug fyraak on tuesday and bring my main to guild clear of bosses I didnt kill then play my outlaw rogue on fyraak
sage smelt
yeah i pugged the first few heroic kills because the guild wasn't there yet and i was sick of waiting
eternal phoenix
anyone have reck + charge macro ?
oblique trail
I do but I will never share the power of it
coarse nest
Experiencing organized mythic raiding has made me refuse to deal with a casual heroic guild
Itās so much different itās wild
ember apex
i started in shadowlands and got instainvited to a mythic guild
well end of BFA when they announced shadowlands
my friend also started in S2 in dragonflight and he got insta invited to a CE guild and was in for every prog boss as rDruid
eternal phoenix
#showtooltip Charge
/cast recklessness
/cast charge
doesnt work for me i am dumb or something ?
ember apex
idk i literally got accepted to the first guild i applied to
i just searched for matching schedule
hardy cargo
I joined my first mythic guild then got poached by a friends guild like 3 weeks later lol
eternal phoenix
my game its bugged lol
ember apex
i was green parsing in CN and the RL/GM taught me how to read logs
warm crag
I do but I will never share the power of it
hidden 7 in the macro
oblique trail
hidden 7 in the macro
I will macro 7 into every button and key I have for next Tindral progress
hardy cargo
gm offered to pay my server xfer so I figured that was telling enough that they wanted me to raid with them enough so I went
oblique trail
Either I or he will perish
warm crag
inevitable doom
wanton mirage
gm offered to pay my server xfer so I figured that was telling enough that they ...
must be nice getting wanted.
LFG demolishs that feeling to zero these days.
hardy cargo
well this was mid bfa
buddy invited me to their guild hc run of rp and I pwned dmg meters they watn me
miss that guild
barren dagger
must be nice getting wanted.
LFG demolishs that feeling to zero these days.
Have you tried changing classes?
ember apex
yeah i made a firemage
barren dagger
Itās either that or git gud innit
ember apex
i also made a DH at the start of the season, that paid off
s2 i made a sPriest during godcomp randomly that was also poggers
clever path
yeah i made a firemage
good choice
quiet honestly being here made me not want to continue warrior
everything seems so futile
wanton mirage
Have you tried changing classes?
too late to commit another spec with my limited play time
ember apex
i know a bunch of ppl in my guild do a +20 on a rat alt and then park it
and then play it when its semi geared
wanton mirage
i know it might be minimal. In smolderon opener, after rampage do you press Spear First or Avatar First?
ember apex
u should be spearing w/ ava up
on smolderon specifically
like just be enraged w/ DPS CDs up and throw spear ASAP
the faster u burn those CDs the more globals u can get w/ dmg buff
gilded pawn
there was some optimization with smolderon
gilded pawn
to align it with the first burn phase
ember apex
yeah dump ur CDs as fast as possible
then stand on edge of the ring get knocked over lava heroic leap back on platform charge to boss and get 7s of buff
wanton mirage
i got the info that we dump cd first. just wanna know do we need avatar to buff Spear initial hit or Spear to buff miniOF initial hit :3
gilded pawn
honestly that optimization doesnt really matter as long as you optimize the burn phases
ember apex
thats def true, it doesnt matter as long as u dump ur CDs fast for orb buff
wanton mirage
cool
gilded pawn
yeah i think that is a IQD
fringe flame
Do you guys run spear on Nymue?
past pivot
A few weeks ago, there was talk about mythic Smoldy and people were discussing using roar instead or spear while learning fight to reduce cognitive load. Not sure what became of that conversation but might be some worth considering or looking back at.
oblique trail
Do you guys run spear on Nymue?
Yes
oblique trail
A few weeks ago, there was talk about mythic Smoldy and people were discussing u...
I'd not recommend using Roar over Spear, since it's just suboptimal regardless of staying inside the ring during 1st intermission to have 100% uptime of Spear
And when you're actually using your CDs, there aren't many things going on at all
ember apex
when ur burning the boss on smolderon ur just dodging rings so i was throwing my spear half outside the main inside ring
3 burn phase u literally warlock gate out
so just try to get like 3 globals inside spear and then gate
nymue is literally just standing still and dpsing
when ur using ur CDs
its more outside that window when ur soaking and dodging the flowers
coarse nest
A few weeks ago, there was talk about mythic Smoldy and people were discussing u...
Arch recommends people use roar for prog because you donāt have to worry about standing in spear
Personally I disagree, I would fight to be optimal
I could live the dot damage with my own defensive
ember apex
idk if theres something in spear i just walk out of it like idk it doesnt seem that big of a deal
coarse nest
It is a big deal
ember apex
the advice should be to put in on /cursor and forget it
clever path
I could live the dot damage with my own defensive
yeah pop the def stance and loose dps
bye bye parse
coarse nest
You donāt use dstance
clever path
enrreg?
ember apex
sometimes u use dStance on prog
coarse nest
You heal through it with bloodthirst + ER yes
ember apex
i started using cheat death trinket and then it pissed off my guild that it took me too long to die on tindral prog
so i had to take it off
and i started dying doing air bombs in p1 randomly
clever path
it reminds me how hunters ran cheat death lol
coarse nest
and i started dying doing air bombs in p1 randomly
Youāre flying through the beams most likely
ember apex
but basically the beam model disappears at edge
coarse nest
Idk what would be getting you
ember apex
and still ticks damage sometimes
so those were my beam deaths
yeah if i went up w/ <50% hp i'd tick out during return flight
if i was <30% id die before i got the orb
and cheat death trinket doesnt help b/c u get auto dismounted and speed set to 0%
molten relic
Idk what would be getting you
He has a phd in dps
But bro dropped out of survival school
coarse nest
Maybe I just have hots before going up or something but my health bar doesnāt move while flying to my orb
ember apex
ty flakk
coarse nest
Unless I clip a beam
ember apex
if i clipped a beam w/ cheat death trinket id die to fall damage b/c u cant take actions during the health regen animations
so u cant leap or anything
and it dismounts u
and also the beams still deal damage at the edge of the map after they despawn
coarse nest
You should be up and down before they despawn no? Or like youāre hitting the roots as they despawn
ember apex
no what was happening (its fine now) is id be getting middle orb, and theres a beam that despawns like right before i pick it up so u dont know its there
but it still does full beam damage
and then other times its just rando aoe raid damage that would just tick me out while flying
its also stupid shit like signet brand and umm phial of corrupting rage
that add to it
coarse nest
Uh
ember apex
so its like raid aoe dmg, trinket, and phial all ticking my HP down while flying
coarse nest
Hope youāre not inting with corrupting rage on prog
ember apex
yo hold up i have something funny
regarding that word
yo everyone hold for like 2 sec
wild mural
No
brittle folio
coarse nest
Itās banned in our prog lol
ember apex
why?
coarse nest
Significant strain on healer when 12 people want to be using it
ember apex
how is it straing on a healer u literally heal urself w/ it
our healers loved when i used it
early smolderon prog i was farming wave hits
so i just put on CD trinket quietly
and was the last alive every pull
until i got used to dodging
coarse nest
Oh I meant corrupting rage
ember apex
oh
coarse nest
Trinket doesnāt matter
ember apex
no so i put on CD trinket to be last alive
not last alive
just not first dead
is how i should phrase it
coarse nest
If thatās your flex then you do you king
ember apex
its not a flex its just what i was doing
supple summit
the goal is typically not to int mechanics
ember apex
yeah but im braindead so
supple summit
barren dagger
Do you guys ever switch to vers phial in m+?
We already live through everything no?
dense elbow
I use vers, cause why not
midnight iron
Don't we run vers phial everytime ?
clever path
half of the shit people wrote here is a dps loss
molten relic
Itās a negligible difference
And verse has 100% uptime
If you suck at the game corrupting rage gonna be worse
calm swallow
I always use vers phial >_>
midnight iron
Yeah I mean every spec in the game run vers phial, jsut 100% uptime, gain survivability so
ember apex
i prefer rage phial
thats just my personal preference tho
it synergizes w/ signet brand
wild mural
half of the shit people wrote here is a dps loss
Real
molten relic
The guy who ints mechanics
Running Phial that has less uptime when u take damahe
Good combo
clever path
no pain no gain
clever path
tense
clever path
you are welcome thanks for calling microsoft technical support
ember apex
warrior discord spelling champion Q1 2024
clever path
grammar dungeon international
frozen marten
Hey Fury discord; What do we think are the best five trinks for M+, in order?
warm crag
this is legit just a chatgpt prompt
ember apex
1 augury
2 might of the ocean
3 crab
4 annumlment (silence one)
5 butcher block
acoustic furnace
1: Rerolling to DH. 2: Rerolling to Rogue. 3....
ember apex
imo* before i get flamed by some nerd
ember apex
no actually the crab is stupid b/c its a crustacean and lowers ur dps b/c its underwater
or whatever ur gonna say
frozen marten
1 augury
2 might of the ocean
3 crab
4 annumlment (silence one)
5 butcher block
Ok, Iām glad to see you say that. I have the annulment and itās simming great, but I wouldnāt have expected that. Thought I was messing up my inputs.
ember apex
it sims great but i dont even care about that all that much, the flat vers/str + the silence is great
u know the chenneled stuns in EB
on groups that have bad stops
its the best at auto-breaking u
frozen marten
Lot of interrupts this season, for sure
ember apex
nah spell reflect arguably more impactful and unique and class specific
wanton mirage
Spell reflect is just unique random dmg and defensive combined in one spell. Won't be calling it a utility.
if they make Mass Spell Reflect baseline of all warrior spec. Then that will be true utility
unique lake
But also way to powerful
wanton mirage
all 3 warrior spec could use a powerful buff
unique lake
True. But mass spellreflect is way to broken
wanton mirage
Hide behind my ego
icy panther
maybe make it like a ground affect aoe that people have to stand in
icy panther
all we have is 
steel ingot
if they make Mass Spell Reflect baseline of all warrior spec. Then that will be...
This would be glorious, warrior needs something else to bring to the party these days
clever path
the most glorious thing they can do is add one more charge of slam
wanton mirage
2% raging blow dmg
clever path
or this too yes
we will NEVER see anything cooler than what we got already in shadowlands
spear
the coolest ability ever
stand in circle
steel ingot
I actually dislike spear lol, only because I got tired of using it
coarse nest
if they make Mass Spell Reflect baseline of all warrior spec. Then that will be...
Imagine mass reflecting an ability and then a few seconds of magic dr ontop of it afterwards
Would be so good
And deserved
Considering this Aug dogshit we have to compete with
wanton mirage
we can only cook.
clever path
this is excatly the reason you arent getting anythin
because theres aug
and soon paladin with lightsmith support hero spec
proud wedge
wanton mirage
we will top the charts with Slayer talent right? Right?
unreal crane
shud we keep cds for smolderon (mythic) intermission ?
proud wedge
Surely slayer and not Thunderclap build
surely
molten relic
They removed mass spell reflect in SL beta
The legendary gave it to whole party
Was too strong
Prob just for PvP but they changed it to be nearest ally
gilded pawn
Prob just for PvP but they changed it to be nearest ally
Nearest ally doesnāt even affect anything for 2s
Probably affected 3s but who cares
clever path
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/897055819475091456 probably where you should head
here is mostly pve
inner zinc
Oh damn, i forgot that thread existed lol mb
wanton mirage
When you ask question, make a very false assumption than simply asking a question. People including myself like to correct mistake more than answer question
naive swallow
any of u bought the war within epic bundle already
young swan
i bought it in the arena at blizzcon
storm rune
When you ask question, make a very false assumption than simply asking a questio...
I'm pretty sure there's a name to this law of the internet
I'm gonna call it Phil's Law
naive swallow
got DF beta once but didnt play
considering getting in War within from alpha
idk
clever path
When you ask question, make a very false assumption than simply asking a questio...
From what I have witnessed today to be honest, and few days past, and a week before that - is that sometimes asking a question warrants someone just being a dick in sake of being a dick, or being very condesending
but sometimes people be nice
storm rune
From what I have witnessed today to be honest, and few days past, and a week bef...
for warriors that's pretty localized to Fury tbh
clever path
My favorite highlight is when people bandwagon on different classes sim for comparison and go "LOL HAHWHWHWHW DUNGEON SWICE HAHWHWHWH"
restive peak
People only get snarky when it's clear you didn't even attempt to read the pins/guide
storm rune
I don't really understand dungeon slices tbh
Is it like, taking an average from logs of how long a pull is+how many mobs on average?
edgy widget
it's a short boss followed by various packs of multiple targets, with a small amount of downtime in between each
gilded pawn
theres a place that explains exactly what dungeon slice is
cant find it rn though, need to google
molten relic
Nearest ally doesnāt even affect anything for 2s
Yeah but in the SL beta it did whole party
They changed it to just be one nearby ally
gilded pawn
yeah thats what i mean
it only affected PVE and 3s
because making it 1 ally does nothing for 2s
clever path
storm rune
I found a guide on IV from last year, probably covers it well enough. I just never really know when it's applicable so I've been sticking to simming ST/MT multiple times and averaging things out
gilded pawn
whole party doesnt even matter that much in m+ because 80% of the shit cant be reflected in SL
clever path
literally says it on the guide for simming
molten relic
whole party doesnt even matter that much in m+ because 80% of the shit cant be r...
Yeah but it was moreso the 5 second 25% dr
On a short cd
restive peak
Actually a lot of M+ shit can be reflected, mass reflect would be massive and honestly might push us into meta for some keys
molten relic
I donāt remember if they gave a reason for changing it
storm rune
Cuz like last season people were saying for priests the slices were great, but kinda dog for wars
restive peak
You know what that would do to TOTT 3rd/4th boss + crushing depths guaranteed both reflected etc?
molten relic
Some of the random tank shit that can be reflected too
restive peak
There would be certain dungeons we would become the absolute meta on
neon ingot
guys does anyone know if catalyst works with mastery ( damage done while enraged ) ?
molten relic
Spell reflect now affects entire party. The cd is increased by 20 seconds
Or some shjt
Idk
olive wraith
I mean even the mage mobs in the gauntlet
gilded pawn
guys does anyone know if catalyst works with mastery ( damage done while enraged...
doesnt work
restive peak
But it wouldn't fix the issues we have
olive wraith
And rise
molten relic
guys does anyone know if catalyst works with mastery ( damage done while enraged...
What
gilded pawn
Actually a lot of M+ shit can be reflected, mass reflect would be massive and ho...
would definitely in DF
but in SL not exactly
but yeah overall would be cool
molten relic
guys does anyone know if catalyst works with mastery ( damage done while enraged...
The gear catalyst?
Or?
restive peak
It wouldn't be, it would make them not buff us in any other way
neon ingot
neon ingot
The gear catalyst?
no the trincket from smolderon
molten relic
Cataclysmic signet brand?
median token
cataclysm
molten relic
I think our mastery only affects our class damage and abilities
warm crag
none of your trinkets work with your mastery
molten relic
So no trinkets or procs from gear
neon ingot
even fyr'alath ?
molten relic
Yes
Thatās not our damage
Itās the weapons damage
But verse does increase it
neon ingot
ait, tyvm
unreal onyx
DH criminally undertuned
hard widget
covert blaze
I will pay my guild for a fyrakk carry on reclear for the mount
unreal onyx
when is S4 coming approx?
bc I am basically not home from end of feb to end of march for prog
covert blaze
2-3 months prob
unreal onyx
and I do not wanna miss our CE
eternal sundial
eta gg no ce
chilly fractal
Probably May
unreal onyx
im gonna tell my boss I can't go on the business trip I gotta get CE
(he won't understand, I will have to resign)
covert blaze
What if your boss is secretly top 10
unreal onyx
that would explain the hierarchy of him being boss
wanton mirage
Not me
unreal onyx
not me
unreal onyx
I won't get it since I already have it
hardy cargo
ayo can u loot some extra embers and in game mail them to me?
unreal onyx
wish I could
covert blaze
I won't get it since I already have it
covert blaze
Surely this week
clever path
so you also stack them and use before raid?
hardy cargo
no so I can put it in my bank for forever
covert blaze
You just use them when you get them
hardy cargo
I have 4 pantheons blessings in my bank still
unreal onyx
why would you use them before raid
covert blaze
why would you use them before raid
He's cooking
coarse nest
Iām going to put the last greater of the tier in my bank
clever path
i dont do that
unreal onyx
to not have the blp applied since they work on reset
hardy cargo
well when you loot the axe u stop getting them right
unreal onyx
yes
clever path
my friend was like "Yo, I heard a trick that basically makes blp be on your side, when you get the testicle, dont use it right away, use 2 or 3 right before fyrrak kill"
i dont believe in that, but hey - science is science
gentle terrace
why would that matter
unreal onyx
I wanna see that proof
coarse nest
edgy widget
to *not* have the blp applied since they work on reset
we don't actually know it works like that; it's also implied that at least the lessers are applied automatically upon acquisition - not when you actually use the item (and would make sense the greaters do too)
clever path
why would that matter
go ask him yourself
spiral orbit
We need blp on blp.
Only got 1 lesser last week for full clear while others got 4+
gentle terrace
it makes no fucking sense lmao
edgy widget
yall really over thinking it though, just kill the boss, use the items, and keep killing the boss; you don't need to agonize over how to min/max something you can't even measure
unreal onyx
we don't actually know it works like that; it's also implied that at least the l...
why is it implied? doesn't the tooltip say "on use: increase dropchance" basically?
clever path
it makes no fucking sense lmao
Hey brother, Dont try to start bein dickish about it - i am just sharin what my stupid friend said. never have i said that i agree with him
edgy widget
because the script increments quantity on acquisition, not on use
gentle terrace
Hey brother, Dont try to start bein dickish about it - i am just sharin what my ...
nobody was being a dick about it. thx.
edgy widget
i dont believe in that, but hey - science is science
doesn't sound like science to me though, sounds more like random bs
sage smelt
I have 16
Were you mentally keeping track, or is there some value you can pull from ingame?
coarse nest
Were you mentally keeping track, or is there some value you can pull from ingame...
A completely useless WA tracks the lesser quantity yes
clever path
doesn't sound like science to me though, sounds more like random bs
I mean I don't believe in that, but the man is cooking - gotta let him cook.
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
edgy widget
yall really over thinking it though, just kill the boss, use the items, and keep...
just gonna repeat this bit here lol
drop rate is 50/50, you either get it or you don't š
coarse nest
^
unreal onyx
this theorycrafting about embers is way better than S2/S3 discussion tbf
coarse nest
Real
clever path
Yeah lets discuss season 3 and season 2 tier set bonuses again
sage smelt
clever path
MARINES
covert blaze
drop rate is 50/50, you either get it or you don't š
YES, thank you
hardy cargo
drop rate is 50/50, you either get it or you don't š
do we know if a greater drops from hc counts as the added BLP from all 3 difficulties? so that it wouldnt make sense to do lfr norm then hc for extra blp
unreal onyx
Yeah because S3 was the better choice
SO REAL
gentle terrace
when you kill a higher difficulty the BLP token counts as all the ones from lower
sage smelt
do we know if a greater drops from hc counts as the added BLP from all 3 difficu...
I did that the first few weeks, but then said fuckit last week and only did heroic and it dropped
hardy cargo
It wont chance how I go about obtaining it I dont estimate, but I would still like to know just bc curious
edgy widget
do we know if a greater drops from hc counts as the added BLP from all 3 difficu...
we don't know anything about anything other than what blizzard has said, and blizzard has said that there's no need to kill earlier bosses before later ones
south kayak
how do you sim races?
edgy widget
now people can choose wether or not to believe that, but it is what has been said, making it the only definitive source of information to build off of
south kayak
I forgot
edgy widget
I mean tbf that's how most things work, in both games and life in general š
clever path
Real
oblique trail
I will personally just go by what Blizzard said instead of theorising some secret tech to loot it quicker
Or what someone who just got lucky the 2nd week did
edgy widget
I tell my boss the same thing - I am doin my job, trust me! š
edgy widget
I will personally just go by what Blizzard said instead of theorising some secre...
TBH, I don't really trust that Blizz got it perfectly, just based on their track record
hardy cargo
Yeah, like I said it wont change how I go about actually acquiring the axe. But was just wondering if we knew or not thx š
edgy widget
but given that we have absolutely no way of verifying, that trust (or lack thereof) is kinda moot
clever path
Maybe engineer who implemented the BLP went on perma vacation, or just works from home somewhere in Arctics
didnt make documentation
hence no info
hardy cargo
even provided the possiblity they fucked that up I doubt the time investment is worth the extra chance at it with for 2 extra greaters
meager gyro
They gave way more info than evoker Lego though
clever path
^
wanton mirage
does wowhead has enough data on approximate drop chance of that axe so far?
edgy widget
not even remotely
edgy widget
very few people bother to run the wowhead loot addon
and the axe has such a low drop rate to begin with
not to mention that there's no way to collect data on BLP (how many tokens people had pre drop, where they came from, etc)
golden hawk
can someone help with the TR Spear macro for curson and player so they change icon depending which one is talented?
champion s spear now..
edgy widget
can someone help with the TR Spear macro for curson and player so they change ic...
should work automatically with the known: syntax
I haven't looked in awhile though, talent profiles kinda removed the need for those macros for me
wanton mirage
#showtooltip
/cast [known:Champion's Spear,@cursor]Champion's Spear; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar
edgy widget
hey just cause you're a loser doesn't mean everyone who plays it is
slim pollen
edgy widget
I know, what a burn
median token
whee is the clip of a warrior pressing the spear macro on smolderon and not working because they changed the name
plucky ice
wanton mirage
whee is the clip of a warrior pressing the spear macro on smolderon and not work...
it happened to me too
median token
we are losers, not quiters
molten relic
In my guild the only two we have are the non rerollers
Itās amazing
We have 7 mfs who switched classes to have the leggo
And the two who been 2h strength mains since Nam got it
clever path
i hope they rolled ret
molten relic
We have 3 rets
wanton mirage
my guild only has 1 and it's on Hpal
clever path
they rolled warriors?
clever path
thats 6 if i can count
molten relic
Then me(war) and the unholy dk who just got it
We have hpally and prot pally too but them mfs are not rerollers
clever path
did you get the short end of the stick or uhdk
golden hawk
is the spear included in the burst macro or not?
molten relic
Uhdk just got it Friday
But the others are malding
āThis game suxā
Everytime it doesnāt drop
edgy widget
our UDK quit cause he didn't get PI enough 
clever path
uhdk slaps in raid?
wanton mirage
uhdk slaps in raid?
they slaps their face this tier
tepid scroll
Will I finally get my Lego tomorrow or is another week of coping on an enhance shaman in my future
restive peak
MY rets gonna get it tm and my warrs gonna get it off mythic rakky tn
clever path
i pray for your success brotha
restive peak
Sanks bae
covert blaze
if they kept uhdk from back then id be maining it
yeah...
clever path
like seriously, it was so fun to press apocalypse
covert blaze
I miss unholy frenzy
clever path
i always did that SWHOOOOSH sound with my mouth and yelled in excietement YEAH
because fuck yeaj
ghouls
covert blaze
I love unholy i mained it a long time but i cant stomach how it plays this expansion
clever path
UHDK in keys is like warlock levelling.
You start to cast as lock and shit is already dead because someone else killed it.
With UHDK you are just finishing your opener while pack is already dead
covert blaze
that's a key level issue tbf
clever path
okay i ran 23 on my uhdk / bdk
but he has mostly bdk gear so that might have been an issue too
south kayak
that's a key level issue tbf
dapper goblet
MY rets gonna get it tm and my warrs gonna get it off mythic rakky tn
voodoo upon u
unreal onyx
MY rets gonna get it tm and my warrs gonna get it off mythic rakky tn
surely
wanton mirage
Random cooking: Berserker shout should dispell two afflicted soul at once. Give afflicted souls Fear debuff.
meager gyro
Nah piercing howl , bring it back
But afflicted having fear is better for whole game
restive peak
voodoo upon u
Been voodoo on my ass for many seasons bruh hahaha. I saw gavel after like 12 kills on heroic, Ashkandur took like 20 heroic and 7 mythic kills, I expect the same here
It was a running joke in my last guild that itās a good thing I donāt need gear cuz it aināt comin
wanton mirage
molten relic
Been voodoo on my ass for many seasons bruh hahaha. I saw gavel after like 12 ki...
Leggo soon
wanton mirage
how do i set it to
upper right cornor
barren dagger
You guys use a gorehowl in some keys? BRH?
past pivot
If you donāt have the leggo, this wonāt make you feel any better but weāre only like 1/3 of the way through this season. Keep grinding. Youāll get it.
barren dagger
1/3 fuck
It feels an eternity
How long has the season been out. I reckon we have 2 months left?
past pivot
You guys use a gorehowl in some keys? BRH?
You use a gorehowl if itās one of your best weapons. Demonbane is nothing to take into consideration
barren dagger
You use a gorehowl if itās one of your best weapons. Demonbane is nothing to tak...
Biz was saying its close to 1% dps increase on some demon bosses and trash
Idk if cap
gilded pawn
Yeah itās 1% overall for keys
So if itās equal ilevel with your other weapon I would use it
hardy cargo
does a little in dht too but not as much as brh
wanton mirage
is 489 vs 483 offhand diff 1% though?
wanton mirage
it's only around 0.4% for me. So I think 483 Demonbane is worth using as 489 offhand in BRH
maybe in DHT if you value last boss fight
clever path
@meager gyro all the good spoils i got from heroic raid today
wish i coukld dual wield shields
meager gyro
Why in the hell do you have shields? For crest skips ?
clever path
Why in the hell do you have shields? For crest skips ?
because its on my holy arms warrior
meager gyro
Ohhh š
clever path
i wanted to buy ring from lock but he already equipped it
meager gyro
You play every flavor warrior
meager gyro
Pink warrior, yellow warrior, green warrior, white warrior, red warrior, blue warrior, and black warrior
hardy cargo
dagger smf, no less
spark tree
Looking at some logs for M+ Bloothirst is about 7.86%, while mine is just 2.8 (sorry I will log a M+ next). Any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
sullen dove
i mean bb is not gonna be 7%
gilded pawn
maybe theres some aggregation difference between his details and logs
sullen dove
when you dont have any bb it should pretty much go button > bt > button > bt > etc
and like every other button filling in there yknow rampage/whirlwind/slam/exe
thats like, generally what u wanna do out of cds to get the most cdr possible
cleave bt basically on cooldown for more odyns furies
hardy cargo
Looking at some logs for M+ Bloothirst is about 7.86%, while mine is just 2.8 (s...
In logs it combines cold steel hot blood with bloodthirst
modest condor
^
sullen dove
o if he was lookin at details vs logs then yea that too
hardy cargo
I assumed he meant details with the comment about how he will log his next one
spark tree
bloodthirst... more?
I feel i dont have rage to press buttons anymore hehee
spark tree
yes I looked at my details
sullen dove
like in the instance you bt > slam > rampage is available, if you hit rampage you might end up being starved of rage later so you can always squeeze in an extra bt after the slam
before you rampage
spark tree
That might be it... I normally press Rampage > BT > Rampage > BT...
hardy cargo
About 110 rage is the breakpoint where youād want to slam there iirc
barren dagger
so its not rampage prio over BT if you're not overcapping rage?
sullen dove
i think for out of cooldown cdr yeah it doesnt matter if u push ramp back a global
but if u like have odyns up
and you were gonna ramp > odyns > bb
thats probably fine to do that over hitting bt again
hardy cargo
If you arenāt overcapping rage bt>ramp
sullen dove
since odyns is already up
spark tree
I think that might be it. I am pressing Ramp out of cooldown. and probably thats is what making me rage thirst
upper grove
What's our fury thoughts on using dungeon slice in sim (as opposed to 5 tar 2/1mins/20sec to compare)
clever path
What's our fury thoughts on using dungeon slice in sim (as opposed to 5 tar 2/1m...
Donāt say dungeon slice here
People will loose their shit
upper grove
Bahaha
I thought so too, never use it but someone was like "yeh try that too"
my response
"Check with your class Discord to see if appropriate for your spec." š banned
clever path
Some classes use it as a starting point.
If you want to sim ST -use Patchwerk 1 boss 5 minutes or 5 boss 5 minutes for AoE
And swap trinkets for AoE , thatās pretty much how it goes
upper grove
š® never done 5/5
clever path
Yeah but people here hate dungeon slice , itās like a kick in the balls for some
clever path
And warrior doesnāt benefit from simming on dslice
upper grove
Lol gotcha, appreciate it
upper grove
tbf it just told me to swap 1 trink rest of gear same as other sims
Yea looks like all my sims say same gear, schweet (outside of raid ST)
fringe vale
Yeah but people here hate dungeon slice , itās like a kick in the balls for some
bah tbh i think its not that they hate it per se, its just that is noit accurate enough, thats why ppl just sim with 5 targets bc its the cap i think so its more accurate
upper grove
Oh yea, anything changed about tepid vers vs corrupting rage?
as an over-all concept of "better" ik it can chage situationally
fringe vale
id say rage is better bc u hit the crit needed since ur mainly building mast-vers so the flask allows u to get more mast and vers
im not expert tho
just a pleb
upper grove
haha thanks š
olive wraith
Also depends on uptime
edgy widget
What's our fury thoughts on using dungeon slice in sim (as opposed to 5 tar 2/1m...
DS is fine
edgy widget
bah tbh i think its not that they hate it per se, its just that is noit accurate...
lol yeah because 5 perma targets is definitely realistic š
Dungeon Slice is not supposed to be perfectly representative of an actual M+ dungeon, it doesn't need to be, much in the same way that Patchwerk doesn't need to be perfectly representative of Nymue
upper grove
Okay, cool. I'll keep that in mind and factor it in. Thanks!
ember apex
if you change firemage in the url to fury warrior u dont get any results
i wonder why that is archi
edgy widget
Sims are analytical tools, what you get out of it correlates to the amount of effort you put in - especially for something like multitarget, you'll get more out of doing a variety of different sims rather than anything one and done
edgy widget
https://www.wowhead.com/news/a-look-back-at-fire-mage-in-dragonflight-and-war-wi...
well first and foremost because the name doesn't actually matter so much as the numeric tag in the URL that directs you to the associated article
ember apex
obv its a joke about that part of it
im just asking wheres our article
tongue in cheek way of asking
ember apex
yeah sick
upper grove
lol
clever path
I can only imagine whatās gonna be under warrior first comment
dense elbow
Probably something like "Where is our utility?!"
"I cant get invited to a 17, that is clearly not my fault, blizz plz fix your game."
dapper goblet
hopefully its "we removed spear"
ember apex
what's wrong w/ Spear
fluid marlin
they just renamed it, why would they remove it
dense elbow
"We are listening to community feedback, as such, we followed your wished and removed spear for another talent. This talent is called: Inspired Shout. Heroism for warrior, with a special two nodes. Node 1, Lasting Inspiration, lets heroism last for 5 sec longer, but decreasing in effect over the duration. Node 2, truely Inpired, allows the warrior to ressurect all fallen allies in combat when used.
Warrior is now fixed. Thank you for your time."
ember apex
no on bloodlust
fluid marlin
lost me at the first 6 words xD
dense elbow
olive wraith
Arenāt fire mages decent rn
ember apex
yes
if packs live a long time
if u do like a 10 or a 15 on an alt ur gearing
its rough out there
fluid marlin
doesn't have to be crazy shit.. how a bout a talent that says: intervening a tank doesn't kill you š
not that I really ever intervene
ember apex
clever path
lol
You know
Since asmongold stopped playing
Warrior updates disappeared
I just realised that
meager void
yo one of those too late to ask questions
but rather ask than stay stupid
rampage says next 2 BTs
and RA greatly empowers 1 BT
its obviously 1 BT, our famous Bloodbath
covert blaze
People will loose their shit
Bro?
meager void
Is that Rampage tooltip wrong for T31?
viral maple
Yeah itās one BT
meager void
Cuz I do remember it being 2 RBs on T30 (soon to return)