#fury

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wild mural
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No augury tho

cyan turtle
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yes in my mind, after being back 2 days and doing lfr once

wild mural
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also, screw pugs

dark elbow
shell jackal
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surely i'll get it next week in my fyrakk pug clueless

clever path
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he puts us to shame

wild mural
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real

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the other warr too

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puts us to shame

clever path
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this is the reason people say warriors are weak

wild mural
clever path
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i love the fact that your name on details is I hate paladins

wild mural
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RIP, 231k is only a 98

wild mural
clever path
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🀘 🀘 🀘 🀘

wild mural
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these two warriors were also in the group

clever path
wild mural
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the 2nd one is 480

hardy cargo
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2nd one is also dead

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dunno what to but

wild mural
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giga heroic parser

fast mural
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those are just ethical gamers and they dont pad

wild mural
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Yes

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real as fuck,

cyan turtle
wild mural
clever path
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you have to take it all in your own hands

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show your resolve

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your conviction

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YOUR POWERS

wild mural
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raid might be cancelled and Im not raiding wednesday, I guess I should say... cyathursday

hardy cargo
cyan turtle
clever path
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why m+ vault is empty

wild mural
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cause keys bad

clever path
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want a boost?

wild mural
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no I'd rather die than do m+

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(in game)

clever path
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we are like pollar opposites

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id rather die than do to raid, and you - wow, we fit like a puzzle

wild mural
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fuck keys and m+

clever path
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like bread and butter

clever path
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we are literally the same

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bread and butter

wild mural
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and you're an M+ player? holy crap

clever path
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yea i got sucked into boosting

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and hence forever 18-20s

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i could push but then someone posts some boost that pays well and i just go do that

calm mantle
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The token isn't bad luck protection, it's goodluck protection. Getting the token means you're never getting the legendary there for you're protected against good luck.

clever path
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no worries about legendary

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just pure joy and fun of smashing buttons

wild mural
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im going smf

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legendary bad

clever path
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me too im currently standing afk in azure span and getting myself boosted from 12 to 70

cyan turtle
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smf dagger is a myth

clever path
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but ninja mogs bro

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shinobi

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tauren rogue

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poggggggg

calm mantle
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Just roll to prot pally main with the intentions of never playing dps warrior again, you'll get lego next week.

wild mural
clever path
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the myth

cyan turtle
wild mural
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orange bad

cyan turtle
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where the purps

wild mural
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smf fun tho

cyan turtle
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when da fuq did people need this popup

wild mural
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idk

hardy cargo
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pops up when u upgrade the slot too

terse ether
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Is there a way addon/wa or a different selection method to only search for specific key levels?

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perhaps to display only 24 keys

hardy cargo
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type

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24-24-

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not 2nd dash but

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24-24 in lfg

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same thing for ranges if u wanna see 18 to 20

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18-20

terse ether
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i know of 2 ones

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like 24-25

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i want only 24

hardy cargo
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yes

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type

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24-24

terse ether
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yes ❀️

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thankjs

hardy cargo
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gl out there

wild mural
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i just need to improve my stupid council hc parse

terse ether
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why? πŸ˜›

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who sees hc anyway

wild mural
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cause I suck

terse ether
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whats ur mythic is the question

wild mural
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no more reclears

terse ether
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0 πŸ˜›

wild mural
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huge I know

hardy cargo
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I missed one singular day of prog so my rl took me off of smolderon prog when they killed it

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then after one kill we extend through ce

wild mural
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I was pushing 99s every pull on Smoldy

terse ether
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mine

wild mural
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then died on the kill

terse ether
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and I fucked up Nymue , i died

clever path
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whats the range of keys that drop champion loot as end of dungeon

wild mural
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11-16?

hardy cargo
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11-17 I think

terse ether
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17 drops hero

clever path
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17 is hero i know that

hardy cargo
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then 16

clever path
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whats for champion

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aint no way my 435 rogue getting into 11s even tho i was doing 21s as 448 on my warr

hardy cargo
clever path
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veteran is only 463

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man this game sucks

lavish breach
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did anyone else keep haviong issues with the leatherworking reipce not working for the lego component?

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tried twice now and they are unable to craft it for some reason

proud crown
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mine worked fine the other day

lavish breach
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ok I will relog

cyan turtle
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wats a good way to get gear without having to run mythics atm, ive done lfr

clever path
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you can buy 424 gear from auciton house

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419-424

fading sky
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Then dream shit

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Weekly quest

hardy cargo
eternal sundial
wild mural
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i wanna reclearbut

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we're in tindral prison

eternal sundial
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gladge hope i can get 97

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just needs a good larry

wild mural
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I suck too much to get good parses

red dirge
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is lego need gold?

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for like crafts etc..

lavish breach
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yes

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I've spent about 140k so far

eternal sundial
eternal sundial
red dirge
eternal sundial
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so cringe

eternal sundial
lavish breach
tepid shore
eternal sundial
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gladge 1 last one to go

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dont think itll turn pink tho sadga

tepid shore
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We're gaminb

eternal sundial
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reclear doer found...

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gimme 3 more larries and itll be fine

tepid shore
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I'm out of reclears

eternal sundial
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we get one but then eta gg

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till ce anyways

hardy cargo
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same

loud locust
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hey is there a website for guilds and to see which guild is the best guild?

hardy cargo
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u can go wowlogs or raiderio and see guild rankings yes

clever path
slim hinge
light nova
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Do we send rampage when it’s usable or do we use it at near full rage only

outer locust
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Holy moly how do we hit 300k dps for a fight. Do the adds stay that long in mythic for gnarlroot?

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Also my guild is falling out this season. I barely get any externals. When I pug raid I log way more damage

warm crag
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you're not meant to get any externals except for wft

floral oak
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imagine getting wft

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cant remember last time i saw enh in a pug

hollow elk
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wft is the only thing we get 100%

junior gale
floral oak
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like how top 100 h sark was all carry kills because you are padding on +10 dead people of add hp

outer locust
junior gale
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correct

floral oak
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ddos them when you go for parse

outer locust
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That’s playing chess my man

junior gale
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thats why there is actually some benefit if you play with worse ppl

warm crag
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parsing on first mythic bosses sure is aspirational

eternal sundial
warm crag
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what is the augury korean lore

eternal sundial
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i had r1 on first on arm

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till he came with 10 mil augury damage + wb

warm crag
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who palys arms

eternal sundial
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nerds (me)

warm crag
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nerd

eternal sundial
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real

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u died to axe yet

warm crag
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no

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surprisingly i have the capability to look 3 seconds into the future

eternal sundial
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ive used it as excuse when i died but otherwise not yet

warm crag
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are hc gnarlroot parses still fucked

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6+ actions per second holy moly

eternal sundial
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new partition so no sin rogue shit

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oh that

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idk

warm crag
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top log looks somewhat fine

clever path
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no one running 4 sub rogues but still

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assa gains more as well

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than fury

hollow elk
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we even got a monk for that 5%

clever path
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ww hidden tech

mild kraken
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Recruiting 4 other warriors to blast 18s with no healer

drifting cloud
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i see some people running lariat at what point do i skip the cloak enchant and go lariat is it for m+? because cloak only does around 2.5mil overall dmg in a dung

eternal sundial
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its always better in aoe if u have the sockets

hardy cargo
past pivot
clever path
mild kraken
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Btw is arms gonna outperform fury after Buffs?

clever path
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i dont need to even run my own keys

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blonde babes with blue eyes invite me

frosty here is afraid of taking up the life of the blademaster

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the master of sword

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the gallant crusader of rightesnous and TOS

mild kraken
clever path
light nova
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lol

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Perfect screenshot

red dirge
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aoe prob not

mild kraken
waxen quail
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Idk that thunderclap does look spicy

calm mantle
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Anyone else have like no self control and stays up way later then they should?

floral pond
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Wake up earlier and rp fury irl

clever path
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i do it every morning

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furiously

calm mantle
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It's 3:14 am and I gotta be up at 7 lol

clever path
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dont sleep

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waste of time

floral pond
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Looking at that screen isn't helping your logs,io, or health

clever path
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and you are going to wake up more tired than if you wouldnt sleep now

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start levelling another warrior

fallow adder
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bro, bro bro

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how do i still not have lego

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every week cleared

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think rope angle real soon

past pivot
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How many times is that now? 7?

fallow adder
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lost count !

clever path
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you can go into achievements (Y) statistics And go into raid

cold cave
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Can one get gorehowl from vault?

sinful canopy
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@cold cave yes

past pivot
cold cave
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Sick

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Hope so

sinful canopy
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got mythic track one 3 weeks ago

cold cave
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7 runs of rise no luck

sinful canopy
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still not leggo though 😦

cold cave
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Only stupid mirror

past pivot
fallow adder
calm mantle
clever path
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Do one more warrior

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Or do a dk and just name him dead+your main name

calm mantle
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DK don't seem fun to play for me.

past pivot
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Ret is funner than Dk this season to me

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As far as dps goes

calm mantle
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Isn't DK also super unforgiving on rotation?

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Like you fuck it up your dps flops?

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Someone tried to explain it to me sometime and it was 3 steps too many so i got confused.

eternal sundial
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only uh during garg

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try arcane

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:)

stark zealot
fallow adder
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come

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we go store buy rope together

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it is time

calm mantle
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Don't forget to buy a second hand chair with a cracked leg.

stark zealot
fallow adder
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whats wild to me is some people got it week 1 - 2

red yew
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Skill diff pretty sure

fallow adder
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:^)

calm mantle
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What's wild to me is people getting it on holy spec or tank spec and they people have 0 dps runs so they aren't likely to use it anyways.

stark zealot
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Their devs are cooked for thinking straight RNG is a good idea two seasons in a row

fallow adder
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what devs

calm mantle
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Or they shouldn't have an atrocious base chance.

clever path
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i was boosting a hc raid the other day

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a customer got it

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his ilvl was 418

red yew
fallow adder
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that's good fuel to spark a villain arc

red yew
calm mantle
tulip swallow
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True sadge

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Gonna lose half my net worth if the thing drops

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Could really use a BOE drop

calm mantle
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Could really use an hour of overtime to pay for a wow token.

stark zealot
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They could have done a questline like Shadowmourne that requires you to loot X amount of embers like the shards for Shadowmourne but make them personal loot so randoms can get it in LFR. That way players can feel like they're actually progressing towards something every week and those who farm it longer get it sooner. Seeing someone come to a run on their alt and get it on 1st or 2nd kill is just wild. Maybe LFR to Heroic has a chance to drop them and Mythic has a chance to drop extra to reward people doing higher content.

tulip swallow
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I probably haven't paid for gametime with gold in like 2 years, but I still have this mental block that if I buy a token i'm better off paying for sub

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I like that theoretically everybody can get the legendary, it's just wrong that they tuned around it

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Evoker sure as hell wasn't tuned around their legendary

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broken ass class

past pivot
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I made money off the leggo. When it was announced. I bought lik e800k worth of the mats off the AH right away, kept enough for me then sold the rest for almost 4 million gold when they skyrocketed in the hours afterward. Was great

stark zealot
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Yeah it used to be that only 1 or 2 people in a guild were chosen to get a legendary so if you weren't in a guild you weren't getting it unless maybe you had an outrageous amount of gold and did gdkp. The game is different now and they want everyone to be able to get it, but straight RNG is just stupid lol

past pivot
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RNG is fine. They just needed to be clearer on expected drop rates as they made it seem that everyone would have it by week 2. The ember participation trophies were a disaster imo. Made things worse.

stark zealot
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idk I feel like a progression system is a lot better because you get directly rewarded for time invested, have very clear expectations on when you should complete it, and you don't have people who are this late into the season progging the last 2 bosses without it because of bad luck

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I agree the embers were stupid though lol

tulip swallow
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blizzard HATES it when you can math out when you will get the gear

stark zealot
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I feel like it's a lot better when the most dedicated players are getting it roughly around the same time too rather than damn sucks to suck for 2+ months

past pivot
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Progression system wouldn't work because you're not entitled to the leggo. You have a chance at getting it. Not guaranteed.

tulip swallow
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It's come up about 2 or 3 times in interviews now with people asking for a dinar like system and every time it's been "fuck you, we don't like gear being predictable"

past pivot
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Otherwise it would just be group loot and added to vault as well

stark zealot
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Then it should be a lot more rare than it is

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And we shouldn't be tuned around it

past pivot
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It's more common because of the stats. Or vice versa.

broken kindle
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Whats the current fury rotation?
Rampage>BT>Rampage>BT?weird

past pivot
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And of course we have to be tuned around it, to a degree. It's one of our strongest items. All tuning works likes that

oblique trail
tulip swallow
oblique trail
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Just like it'd otherwise also be rampage > rb > rb > rampage > rb > rb > rampage

tulip swallow
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If you have bad reck proc rng you press slam/ww/execute

lean wasp
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Cross realm is open after 100 or 200 kills?

broken kindle
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Alright guys, gotcha ty alot πŸ†

stark zealot
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But if you're not entitled to it, as in you shouldn't expect to get it, then we should be doing really competitive damage without it

past pivot
brave totem
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hey, returning player here. I have the season 2, 4 set. I only have 2set of the new set. Should I just keep the old set until I have 4 of the new?

past pivot
warm crag
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you can compare the dps by simming but i'd personally just stick old 4p until you get more catalyzable pieces

brave totem
past pivot
brave totem
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I will try the 2p+2p and arms

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see how it goes

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thanks

brave totem
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is dungeon slice reliable?

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or something like 10 target 1min for m+

warm crag
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uhh i think the aoe sim is still broken for the new tier aoe

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just stick to 5 minute patchwerk sims for everything

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you'll be optimizing the only part that really matters

sinful spoke
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Guys im new to mythic raiding and stuff

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Is hall of fame region wide or world wide

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Like do eu and na have their own hall of fame or is it the same one for both

warm crag
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world

sinful spoke
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Ic

past pivot
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Thank goodness this'll be the last time it ever happens

hard sluice
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so did I just read the patch notes correctly? is this an early april fools joke? any info of whether there is gonna be more class tuning added to these patchnotes b4 next reset?

warm crag
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ye check literally any guide

past pivot
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Why yes. Read the guide(s)

clever path
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can do on wowhead, but icy veins has more pleasent ui and imho more readable

past pivot
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And seems to be updated less often. Or used to be.

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So check both

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And the pins here

warm crag
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its a talent in the bottom right of the spec tree

clever path
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Mainly because its not in the current tier set and is not used with it. Current tier set juices up Odyn's Fury and that should be your choice

noble elm
clever path
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CRITCAKE IS DOING ARMS

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LOOK AT THE OVERALL

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RIP DH

sinful spoke
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Most dh players are ass

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Fotm rerollers

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Dont know how to play the class

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Same as augvoker

clever path
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I wonder who wrote this

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hmmm

past pivot
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At least they know proper contractions. Rules out most people on this channel.

clever path
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Man, I just can't understand the deep RP people go into by hating other specs of the same class we all play here in Skyhold

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Even if its smf warrior that is yellow isntead of brown

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Its like going undercover fbi agents, too deep and you become too invested

covert blaze
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delete arms from the game

clever path
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why do we fight

covert blaze
edgy widget
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the rotation page has checkboxes for the talents - one side is Season 2, the other is Season 3

past pivot
fringe flame
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man, I just like pressing button and seeing number go up

olive wraith
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Oh you mean the β€œ s3 is a 2 buttons spec” ?

covert blaze
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I really enjoy that conversation

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specially because the AM build is not 2 buttons at all clueless

olive wraith
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But but but anni removes rb

covert blaze
edgy widget
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easy to downplay the thing you dislike while aggrandizing the one you do

red peak
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I'll have you know pressing odyns, ww abd bt/bb is a lot of fun

olive wraith
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I think my second fave is β€œdo you really wanna play a second season of the same build?”

clever path
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Quiet honestly, is there any warrior ability that is not fun to press?

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Please dont say slam

olive wraith
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As if we haven’t played am for the majority of DF

clever path
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It doesnt exist

red peak
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even sdlam is lol

clever path
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Yea, exactly

edgy widget
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Slam is fine, and you barely even have to press it

clever path
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See

modern shoal
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Uncapped aoe is nice

red peak
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Slam is what. Mortal strike without Debuff these days

clever path
olive wraith
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Oh d stance

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Hard agree

past pivot
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But you do less dps with it.

red peak
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also - Slam actually is a weapon hit - so dont we want to use it to get cataclysmic procs?

olive wraith
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Heroic throw good

clever path
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that is wicked

olive wraith
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I just throw when I have to move off the target

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Gotta add that 5k dmg to my 300m overall keks

red peak
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Tesco throw

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Every little helps

clever path
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dont forget to use them engineering grenades

red peak
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Bring back classic grendades tbh

past pivot
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Heroic throw for farming when you gotta tag a mob about to die

red peak
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❀️ Mithril Grenades - Warrior utility go brr

covert blaze
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taunt is better for tagging

red peak
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An I one of the few who like annhilator? feels a bit more like class fury (Though completly get why people dont like it)

fading sky
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Nono season 3 was fun in many ways

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Of and anni was a good combo

clever path
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best solution for everyone would have been blizzard just not limiting people by tier set and just allowing for some sandbox with just giving all 3 and people just choose waht they want from a vendor

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but no

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democracy

edgy widget
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and people (as in human beings) by and large hate change, whether it's necessarily good or bad

covert blaze
summer quail
red peak
edgy widget
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combine that with Fury not having the greatest M+ season (even if it's not actually a worse season either) and the fact that people also like having a simple singular point of blame, and its easy to see why something like a tier bonus can get a lot of flak, whehter it's necessarily deserved or not

edgy widget
olive wraith
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We still operate around rampage

red peak
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Oh thats what I mean.

olive wraith
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It’s just rampage enables bt

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Instead of just doing more dmg

red peak
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Like I came back and it was the end of S2 - The whole Raging blow thing was very odd

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then I went hard into S3 and it was like playing a better version of what fury was in 2004/5

edgy widget
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Fury didn't even exist in 2004 lol

summer quail
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huh? i played fury in classic and s3 fury is nothing like it

red peak
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As a Fury warrior in 2004/5 I disagree

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Wait I started in 2005

edgy widget
red peak
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Yep

edgy widget
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I was joking because Bloodthirst didn't exist as a standalone attack until the 2nd patch of BWL

fading sky
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Dont complaim

edgy widget
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which was like mid 2005, in 2004 Bloodthirst was still a crit buff

red peak
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Wait what, Wasnt it the 31 point talent all the way into TBC?

edgy widget
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the original version of Bloodthirst was a button, but not an attack - it just made your next special ability crit

red peak
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Oh that may have been before my time I dont remember that at all

fading sky
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Imho fury just plays well in df... now dmg has been up and down but thats more tuning and timingsπŸ˜…

edgy widget
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it was changed in 1.6, the 2nd patch of BWL - one of several reasons that "Fury" didn't really exist before that

red peak
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Yeah, I want to give S4 a proper go to see why people liked S2 so much

edgy widget
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because without Mortal Strike, there's not really much to auto-crit buff - only Whirlwind, Slam, or HS, all of which were pretty poopy individual hits as Fury

summer bobcat
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i just got leggo guys

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how long does the questline take

rugged palm
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woudlnt know

red peak
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Yep - I also recall it not neing all that great due to the fatc it operated only of AP (untill you were in endgame gear)

edgy widget
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(fun fact, Heroic Strike was also extraordinarily bad until later patches of vanilla - the classic style dominance didn't come about until late AQ)

warm crag
summer bobcat
edgy widget
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so for the most part, Fury didn't really functionally exist as a spec until like late AQ/early Naxx

covert blaze
warm crag
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just join rare farming groups for the elite step and try to realmhop at the end of superblooms, do the challenge mode thing for the weird awakened order step

red peak
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I played it the whole time lol, I dunno how I made it work

summer bobcat
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ty

fading sky
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As content didnt need it

red peak
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I was horde so - WF totem meant I could actually top DPS by spamming hamstring lol

edgy widget
# red peak I played it the whole time lol, I dunno how I made it work

I'm talking more from the high end raid & pvp perspective, of course you could play it, it just was not regarded as particularly good at anything at the time

Then again if you didn't start until mid-2005, you probably skipped most of that anyway. BWL turned it into a real attack, AQ20 added extra spell ranks, and AQ40/Naxx finally added itemization to make DW not complete garbo

clever path
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it always makes me feel warm seeing those classic / vanilla warrior pvp videos

past pivot
# summer bobcat any guide u would suggest

Search leggo on this channel and you'll find some good tips. Superbloom: Use the first quest item on yourself. Join a group for superblooms and drop soon as last boss dies. Can often get him on your shard.
Farm emerald frenzy for the lasher for rares. Can sometimes get 4-5 per frenzy. Frenzys happen twice an hour.
IP and spell reflect is your friend for the consume test.
Have fun doing it though it is a grind
Oh, have the mats for the stupi quest catching stuff

clever path
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where warrior just one taps people

edgy widget
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pre-nerf Sweeping Strikes was a thing of beauty

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Classic PvP was kinda wild for raiders early on; because it was initially all realm-specific and most guilds didn't have multiple raid guilds, raid teams could dominate through sheer gear alone

red peak
tropic atlas
red peak
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I think it hit everything uncapped

clever path
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@edgy widget , when was fury warrior reworked last time?

edgy widget
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uhh... depends on your definition of "reworked"

  • it was fundamentally changed into the Rampage version we have now in Legion
  • 10.0.5 updated several talents
tropic atlas
past pivot
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I had one of the first Ashkandis on my server. Paladins would line up in BGs to serve as healbots. It was glorious.

red peak
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There was a nicer swoed. the one with the 200str buff

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I think that might have been better than Ashkandi*

past pivot
#

Dark edge of Insanity iirc

edgy widget
#

Ashkandi was p much best at the time; with more modern classic design, there are beter options though

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DEOI didn't come out until AQ

clever path
red peak
#

Pre Normalisation Arcanite reaper lol

edgy widget
#

it's had talents significantly overhauled as recently as 10.0.5

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it was fundamentally reworked (into the rampage version) in Legion, which is certainly what I would call the biggest rework, but there have been several updates along the way - basically each expansion refined the ideas Legion started

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like changing Raging Blow to have a cooldown instead of only being castable while Enraged was a pretty big change in BfA

edgy widget
stark zealot
#

Vanilla was wild because like 80% of the population played in dungeon/quest blues and greens so you could just mow people down if you had raid gear lol

red peak
#

I though that was thought of as one of the top weapons due to the way the buff worked.

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And then you had the occasional sulfuras owner

past pivot
#

Pally with Sulf was rank 14 automatically. Untamed blade was bad in pvp, good in pve.

red peak
#

I have a feeling on my server a damn druid made it

edgy widget
#

buff weapons weren't very highly regarded at the time; they had funky mechanics, MS didn't care as much about attack power as much as raw weapon damage, and Fury didn't really exist (much less 2h Fury) at the time

red peak
#

I used to weapon switch. DW for building 2h for spending. Eg using Slam to empty rage bar.

vague copper
#

No gear what so ever gave you R14

red peak
#

But I was probably terrible lol

vague copper
#

Time did

past pivot
#

Sulfuras helped for damn sure

edgy widget
#

Gear certainly helped, but getting PvP ranks really varied from server to server

red peak
#

I seem to remember tanks in full wrathg set couldnt really be touched in pvp

stark zealot
#

I was a Rogue with GM Longsword (CTS before that), Thunderfury, and the Renataki energy trinket. I could pop Bladeflurry in AB and just level the enemy team

edgy widget
vague copper
#

I got rank 14 in pvpgear

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Proper team

past pivot
#

But you weren't some rando from lfr with a legendary either. If yo uhad the gear, you put in the time AND you had the gear

vague copper
#

That knew what to do

stark zealot
red peak
#

I had earthsaker at one point. Was quite fun stunning people who tried stuff like that

edgy widget
#

basically what I was saying about raiders though; most servers didn't have more than one major raid guild, so you could walk in and stomp people through raw gear alone

final sedge
#

so i got 29.23% Crit and 23% Haste, 57% Mastery what runes should i be using on my weapons

stark zealot
#

I started on one of the og servers and couldn't get into a raiding guild or PvP team so I rerolled when a fresh wave of servers came out with the AQ patch so that really helped. I PvPed while I leveled and got server 2nd rank 14

stark zealot
meager gyro
past pivot
#

I can't remember, it was so long ago. I think my first TG fury weapon was Soul Cleaver. That weapon was a monster. The ignore armor melted toons in pve and pvp. I miss Ignore Armor

clever path
edgy widget
#

maybe, but mastery runes virtually always win

clever path
#

i got my smfwarrior to 60

final sedge
#

i thought i read something they say 25% haste is where u want for fury s3, i am at the 10% pently with mastery still worth using mastery runes

hard widget
#

But if the robot tells u its good, then it is πŸ˜„

past pivot
meager gyro
burnt stone
#

Hello brothers
It's a bit late, but I finally killed Smolderon today.

sullen dove
#

πŸ‘‘

warm crag
#

kingfarmer

olive wraith
#

Them parses though

burnt stone
#

I heard about paladins and death knights being buffed.
I heard that Paladin's ST DPS increases by more than 5%, but isn't our Fury relatively weak? lol

olive wraith
#

Not sure why ret got huge aoe buffs

red dirge
burnt stone
#

I'm so sad that fury is so dependent on WF.
It's difficult to work with shamans, and there are many cases where they don't maintain their totems properly.
But honestly, I'm so jealous that a paladin without these inconveniences can become so strong.

olive wraith
#

I don’t think ret needed more aoe. If anything they needed bigger st buff

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But oh well

red peak
#

I got kicked from an M+ group for not having Fyralath this week

#

That was an experience

hard widget
#

Just wait till next week

#

U wont even get in even with the leggo xd

red peak
#

DKs absolutly need a buff

#

They really need a complete redo

frozen tartan
#

Is legendary on Use worth it for Single Target? πŸ€”

red peak
#

palaadins Im not sure, like they do seem to fall off

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But they seem to trigger tonness of procs from those Ive grouped with (Fyralath is lie an extra 10% dps for them)

red dirge
hard widget
#

The buffs for the other classes

red dirge
#

ohh buffs lol

#

So we looking at arms for ST???

red peak
#

It sweird they just never touch fury

burnt stone
#

Fury requires a legendary weapon and WF to get DPS similar to other classes.

#

However, if the Paladin is buffed like that, I think it will be stronger or similar to Fury even without legendary weapons and WF.

eternal sundial
#

if u dont wanna play arms dont play arms xd

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paladin in herently cannot benefit from WFT

#

due to crusading strikes

junior gale
#

paladin WFT dps 0

barren dagger
#

you guys ever wonder why u don't get into keys but then remember that you're just a bad dps bot?

burnt stone
eternal sundial
red dirge
#

Its crazy bc ret was already solid asf in aoe even without leggo

warm crag
#

lemme count the number of ret paladins in top keys and raids

eternal sundial
#

ret aoe is better than ours but they do dog st keks

fading sky
#

*did

eternal sundial
#

ret st in m+ build is horrendous

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ret cleave in raid build is nonexistant

red dirge
#

guild aff lock beats them on half bossesdeadge

burnt stone
eternal sundial
#

i wouldnt mind arms and fury buffs by 6% or so

red dirge
#

whats the arms percent buff next week?

fading sky
#

2.9

warm crag
#

click the pins in arms channel

hard widget
#

Archimtiros pinned it

eternal sundial
#

its turbo fake buff

hard widget
fading sky
#

Half of ret

eternal sundial
hard widget
eternal sundial
#

i can complain about inadequate buffs

red peak
#

We just need more utility. We need an ability which just bonks a target and stuns it for 30 seconds lol

hard widget
#

Arms aoe is actually pretty good in keys

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Issue is living on high tyran keys

#

But these buffs are really good for next season tbh when we get s1 set

eternal sundial
#

its clear they are aiming for that with the cleave buff

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but current st could use some tuning up

steel ingot
#

I would like war to get bloodlust and intervene grant some sort of DR or absorb

eternal sundial
#

beyond the 100% sd clap

#

intervene used to have a dr ....

steel ingot
#

Yeah ik

hard widget
burnt stone
#

I think fury should also become stronger by about 3%.
Although fury has the hassle of needing legendary weapons and WF to become stronger, it is not that strong.

red peak
#

A grip would be good

half cargo
#

We were robbed when they removed safeguard

eternal sundial
red peak
#

Make it like scropions spear

eternal sundial
#

its almost nothing

red dirge
steel ingot
#

Pretty sure the loss of safeguard was due to pvp

eternal sundial
#

my entire point is 2.9% is ass

sinful spoke
hard widget
eternal sundial
#

20% dr 2 charge intervene

hard widget
#

Arms > fury any day with annihilator lmao

#

Just cant live high keys as good as fury making it meh

red dirge
hard widget
#

I like AM fury more sure, but next season arms is gonna be so much fun

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So next season ill probably like arms more

junior gale
red dirge
burnt stone
#

Aug, they are robbers.
I hope you don't give me a buff

eternal sundial
#

#fightback

hardy cargo
#

totally dont bake cancelaura macros into your bloodthirst/bloodbath

red dirge
burnt stone
#

I canceled Aug's aura and received a whisper lol
He was very angry.

eternal sundial
#

keks deserved

warm crag
#

do not cancel the aura

sinful spoke
#

if u cancel aura an aug buff

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ur getting reported

warm crag
#

you should be gkicked if its in a guild raid ye

eternal sundial
#

in mythic**

sinful spoke
#

i bet no one here has more leech than me

warm crag
#

very pathetic behaviour

eternal sundial
#

its funny once or twice

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but if ur aug is anda or whoever u wont see a buff on warri anyways

warm crag
#

idk what you find funny about fucking over your raid

eternal sundial
edgy widget
#

Idk I'm inclined to agree that the whole "cancel aug buffs" thing is pretty toxic

sinful spoke
#

specially not during prog

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grow up

eternal sundial
#

spongo is right about gkick if u do it on prog

junior gale
#

sounds about right we troll each other in raid all the time when not on a prog boss

oblique trail
junior gale
#

the amount of times ive been evoker lifted into death is more than I can count

eternal sundial
#

it goes above the left hand

junior gale
#

about right

edgy widget
#

no, left; he just said so!

eternal sundial
#

itd prolly be giga funny to grip tank on nymue intermission and make the tree cross the line

burnt stone
#

The two photos are records of the hero Vulkoros.
One is no aug buff
The other one received the Aug buff.
In reality, there may be a difference in dps due to other reasons, but after receiving the aug buff, if you feel that your dps has decreased, you will not enjoy receiving buffs from aug.

edgy widget
#

there are so many reasons for variance in performance between two pulls

warm crag
#

im p sure aug reattribution is currently fucked in favour of the buffed

edgy widget
#

espeically on a fight like smolderon

eternal sundial
edgy widget
#

damage varies wildly

warm crag
chrome summit
#

Bloodcraze vs slaughtering strikes for m+? is it big dif?

eternal sundial
#

shifting sands doing 0 dps

olive wraith
#

Ss is technically better for aoe

#

Bloodcraze is better for boss damage

eternal sundial
olive wraith
#

/prio

edgy widget
eternal sundial
#

bc db do 220k st okayge

burnt stone
#

I've always recorded the highest DPS when I wasn't buffed by Aug.
So I often request that they not give me buffs.

Even today, when I caught Smolderon and didn't get a buff from Aug, I got 99 points lol

chrome summit
#

ye been playing BC sofar but then checked guide and seen it recomended SS for m+

edgy widget
eternal sundial
#

aug less is more fun

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trusting details to gauge where ur log lands>>>

junior gale
#

No aug means no ruined Details

edgy widget
#

you may be helping your logs, we don't really know - it's a theory (and I'm not entirely convinced isn't one solely perpetuated by vehemently anti-aug people for that purpose)

But you are absolutely hurting your actual performance in the conduct of defeating the boss, which IMO is a very bad look - especially on prog but even on farm

eternal sundial
#

this is a top 10 peepoHappyFisher
nvm we have aug in raid seramore

burnt stone
#

That's right, that's why I don't want to cancel Aura if possible.
That is why I respectfully request this from Aug. β€œPlease don’t give me the buff.”

warm crag
#

imma be real with you if you're in a decent guild and you do that in any sort of progression content you're out

eternal sundial
#

just ignore what aug does

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only interaction i have with my 2 augs is requesting time spirals in some spots

edgy widget
#

time spiral op on tindral

junior gale
#

true

edgy widget
#

smolderon too, actually

junior gale
#

I got spirals timings to be able to leap to a seed/feather everytime

eternal sundial
#

ye i finally got em to spiral the smoldo intermissions so i can leap the go to 3 thing in i1 rather than eat it

burnt stone
#

In Mythic difficulty, I don't care what aug does.
Because it’s a place where everyone truly does their best.
However, in the case of bosses that have already been killed or on heroic difficulty, I request that Augs not give me buffs as much as possible.

warm crag
#

i mean plain and simple you're just trolling

#

even if its "just" reclear

burnt stone
#

Is it trolling to tell someone else to give a buff instead of giving me a buff?

warm crag
#

they can't control 2 of their ebon might targets

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or 1 i dont know current ebon might lore

#

fight positioning dictates that sometimes you will just get ebon might

eternal sundial
#

fight position also determines i have to cs into bsos face and get parried

warm crag
#

dont make me get the fyralath on use copypasta to direct at you

eternal sundial
#

completely unrelated

eternal sundial
#

i will parry you

burnt stone
#

I'm requesting that Prescience not give me this buff.
Other buffs are areas that cannot be controlled.

eternal sundial
#

precience aims ebon might doesnt it

warm crag
#

ye but ebon might hits 4 ppl iirc

#

2+2 closest

eternal sundial
#

i think u can get 3 presc out with tier

#

so just 1 based on position

burnt stone
#

Yes, I just refuse to be the primary target of the Prescience buff.

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Because nothing else can be helped

opaque bolt
#

why would you manipulate someone's gameplay just because a log which is so fucking useless

clever belfry
#

cook 4

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with proper timings πŸ˜”

unreal onyx
#

the result varies ratge

flat sapphire
#

Nothjing wrong with requesting something?

sinful spoke
#

its called griefing

#

and its a bannable offense

flat sapphire
#

ofc

clever path
#

Can confirm

#

my friend got silenced in game for a week for posting an lfg asking for help "New player looking for help" was name of lfg and description said "Whisper me. might be afk +17s

opaque bolt
#

nah its not the same

burnt stone
#

Can I ask a question like this here?
Is there a way to make the mark appear in the basic raid frame?

clever path
#

week silence

hazy cedar
#

only "people" that should be sabotaged are augmentation evokers

clever belfry
#

u can see 4 men being targeted πŸ˜”

eternal sundial
#

large

clever belfry
#

another, but i fucked up timing here (this ones tight)

broken kindle
#

how comes that versa is so goddamnn good for us in s3? I mean its insane compared with stat prio s1/s2?

sullen dove
#

cuz there are just... more stats

#

and its better than the other stats

modest condor
#

we dont really need crit because we get plenty of it from talents/tierset

#

we dont really need haste because the main purpose of haste in the past was either enrage uptime (already maxed out) and AM cdr (we're not playing AM)

#

so that leaves you with mastery and vers

clever belfry
clever path
#

i dont even understand how to look at logs

#

no raid no logs

broken kindle
clever belfry
#

the biggest of boss blasts for p3

wild mural
#

setup dn

covert blaze
#

playing aug properly sounds like actual cbt

clever belfry
#

the idea of optimizing aug is fun to me
but actually doing it well in raid
πŸ’€ πŸ’€ πŸ’€ πŸ’€ πŸ’€
πŸ’€

covert blaze
#

damn anda you only got rank 2

#

YOU SUCK

clever belfry
#

it got beat yday night

#

by koreaman with king6969 enha to buff

#

wcyd

covert blaze
clever belfry
clever path
#

can you explain to me, how does aug get so much damage on logs?

its just the buff to others damage right? Its not actual augvoker dam?

clever belfry
#

if you wanna boil it down to ""just"" buff

#

sure

#

but to keep ur buffs rolling u do have to play a spec too

covert blaze
#

how is shifting sands calculated? what about crit chance?

clever path
#

yo bro, no offense, dont mean it - i just dont know how warcraftlogs work in general

#

i just used it in wrath classic to present to my guild lead and thats it

#

other than that - never

summer quail
#

i can tell anda is very offended rn

#

very offended

clever path
#

legit didnt mean

#

i just dont know shit

summer quail
#

nah i'm joking

clever path
#

Like the other day someone was meming about parses and specific damage i donno, parse - and they linked the log and i was like "Wtf so funny about it"

#

and it was outlaw rogue parse that was bugged or something. still no idea

clever belfry
#

The prescience takes a % of every crits damage, according to the crit modifier

covert blaze
clever belfry
#

idfk know how much crit he has here

#

but its surely a thing

unreal onyx
#

p(r)ogging

clever belfry
#

398 πŸ’€

#

the issue with shifting sands is, it does NOT work with "global" dmg% modifiers, like smolderon damage amp, BM mastery, UDK talents (for pets)

wild mural
clever belfry
#

it severely underreports (for the aug), in other words - it steals from the aug :)

unreal onyx
#

more than 350 even

clever belfry
#

i have 269 total

clever path
unreal onyx
clever belfry
#

am i?

wild mural
#

warrior easy

unreal onyx
#

you are HoF, yes

wild mural
#

this dies tonight

junior gale
#

Dies tonight believe

daring laurel
wild mural
#

that guy was real as fuck

unreal onyx
#

I saw there was a message

#

but I didn't see what it said

daring laurel
#

i meant to search smf but just slammed it as a message here LOL

wild mural
unreal onyx
#

smf king

wild mural
#

real

clever belfry
#

smf

unreal onyx
#

I have 1 1H only sadly

#

hc gholak

#

for prot offspec (which I will never use)

wild mural
clever path
#

why though

#

prot is fun

wild mural
#

wrong

clever path
#

prot is literally best tank ever

wild mural
#

wrong

clever path
#

you are wrong

wild mural
#

no

daring laurel
#

prot deadge

clever path
#

stop warrior abuse

#

warrior is the coolest class ever

wild mural
#

fury ye

#

prot sucks

unreal onyx
#

do the flare bomb impacts count towards logs?

clever belfry
#

no

#

if u wanna parse as melee just dont fly

#

real

unreal onyx
#

I am team 2 flyer sadge

wild mural
#

i dont wanna fly

leaden spoke
#

Is it me on tindral that sometimes Odyns fury doesnt get me out of root?

unreal onyx
#

but new best try

#

28%

wild mural
unreal onyx
#

it has to apply avatar fresh to you to get you out

leaden spoke
unreal onyx
#

otherwise you wouldn't even get rooted if you are in avatar

leaden spoke
#

idk then

#

im in root i press odyns im still in root

wild mural
#

it just removes

#

it doesnt prevent

lucid plover
#

mirror or might for m+?

wild mural
#

might

clever path
#

CRITCAKE IS ON FYRRAK

#

LEGENDARY INC

unreal onyx
wild mural
#

im confused

#

you said you wouldn't get rooted if you're in avatar

unreal onyx
#

I said "otherwise you wouldn't"

wild mural
#

im confused

#

brain hurting

clever path
wild mural
#

im not gaining anything

clever path
#

you are gaining good boy points

gusty cloak
#

do you use the fryakk lego on cd?

gusty cloak
#

ty

wild mural
fair oasis
#

our mastery increases fyralath active dam or nah?

wild mural
#

no

midnight jackal
#

so, when do you guys use the legendary on-use? On pull after applying the marks but before popping reck, during reck or after?

unreal onyx
#

bruh

wild mural
#

I dont

#

I never press it

unreal onyx
#

guys when to use fyrakk leggo?

wild mural
#

and the looty droppin

olive wraith
clever path
gritty juniper
#

does anyone know how to fix the spell queuing on 'champions spear' when using avatar?

olive wraith
#

Wdym

oblique trail
#

What kind of spell queueing are you talking about

gritty juniper
#

im jackhammering the key

#

and avatar is casting ofc

#

but bastion is just not coming ouit

oblique trail
#

send the macro

gritty juniper
#

and i'm specifically trying not to gcd lock myself with other spells

#

#showtooltip Avatar
/cast [@player] Champion's Spear
/use Elemental Potion of Ultimate Power
/use 13
/cast Avatar

unreal onyx
acoustic furnace
#

You do know Avatar is off the GCD right? Also it's probably better not to have your pot in a macro so you can use it pre-pull for some bosses. As it stands you're losing a LOT of value by casting Avatar and spear before you pot.

wild mural
oblique trail
#

But that aside, I wouldn't recommend using this macro either, because you only use this mid fight

#

So it's use is very limited

unreal onyx
#

pot should be the first thing in the macro, no?

#

to empower the avatar OF

#

and spear impact

acoustic furnace
#

Yup

oblique trail
#

Are we gonna ignore

acoustic furnace
#

Their OF isn't getting buffed either if they're doing the opener correctly

oblique trail
#

That I said Spear has travel time

#

lol

warm crag
acoustic furnace
#

Okay but when does that realistically matter? How often are you launching spear across the room?

edgy widget
#

even if you drop it at your feet, its not instantaneous

oblique trail
edgy widget
#

that said, as pointed out, it's still a pretty mid macro

unreal onyx
oblique trail
#

I can't exactly say why it wouldn't work though, since in theory there's nothing wrong with it that should cause it to not use Spear

acoustic furnace
#

OF isn't being buffed by pot for starters

#

Unless they're using Avatar first

#

Which would be dumb

oblique trail
#

The pot is before Avatar in the macro

#

Did my message just not appear for you or wat

#

The ordering of the macro matters

#

And the Avatar you get from OF also buffs OF's damage

acoustic furnace
# oblique trail Again

Okay. Read carefully. The FIRST ODYNS FURY THEY CAST. THE ONE BEFORE AVATAR AND SPEAR. IS NOT IN THE MACRO. SO THAT ENTIRE CAST. IS UNBUFFED. UNLESS THEY ARE USING AVATAR FIRST. WHICH IS WRONG.

oblique trail
#

Yes I know lol, which is also why I above stated that the macro itself has very limited use so I don't even recommend using it

olive wraith
#

This is a mid fight macro

oblique trail
#

You'd have to find a case where you use Ava + Spear + Pot at the same time

summer quail
#

even if it's mid fight it's not a good macro

olive wraith
#

If you’re doing this in opener you’re not parsing

gritty juniper
#

just trying to kill smolderon man

#

im actually bald and stupid

oblique trail
#

I would in no world use that macro for Smolderon

wild mural
#

^

summer quail
oblique trail
#

You don't pot on pull, and you want to use pot mid intermission1 before you even use Avatar or Spear

acoustic furnace
#

^

#

Imagine not potting on lust with a 100% damage amp

lucid plover
#

Idk I simply sand avatar+reck on charge into rampage into spear on opener myth smolderon

wild mural
#

lust i3 tho I thought

gritty juniper
#

We're lusting p3

#

gonna have pot back for it anyway

summer quail
gritty juniper
#

or have it during enrage

lucid plover
lucid plover
#

its isnt gcd anyway

clever path
#

i have never heard people do avatar AND THEN reck

oblique trail
#

wat

#

Avatar isn't on the GCD

summer quail
#

just the way you wrote it made it seem like you press reck and avatar before you charge

oblique trail
#

And you're sending the free OF from it before you're even in range

clever path
#

yea but odyns fury?

olive wraith
#

What?

clever path
#

Like shouldn't you reck -> charge -> and so on

#

avatar after OF

gritty juniper
#

Avatar after Odyns fury bleed no?

junior gale
#

he said for smoldy

gritty juniper
#

to not overlap it

clever path
#

ah raid stuff

#

clueless im out of this convo

olive wraith
#

Smold you send both instantly

#

So it’s up again for inter

lucid plover
#

reck+charge-rempage+avatar-spear-basic rotation

gritty juniper
#

do any of you have mythic smolderon log i can look at?

broken river
#

What are the best in slot trinkets for M+

clever path
broken river
#

right now im running Aug and Cata

verbal orchid
#

How long does avatar last when you pop odyns fury?

broken river
molten relic
#

4 seconds

verbal orchid
#

thanks

junior gale
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lmao based log

wild mural
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I know you're impressed

gritty juniper
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/m

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fak

clever path
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

silver mantle
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How is it possible that after 8 Greater Embers and 17 Lesser Embers, I have not yet gotten the legendary??

oblique trail
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You simply are just not lucky enough to have gotten it

silver mantle
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Can someone mathematically explain this to me, please?

oblique trail
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Like many other people, me included

unreal onyx
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bad rng

oblique trail
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We can't do the math because we don't know the numbers =)

gritty juniper
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Reckon we get an upgrade token for the legendaries in season 4

unreal onyx
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even in theory at a 99.998% chance to get it, you are still not guaranteed to get it

junior gale
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its a 50% droprate trust me bro

night dune
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Ez:

if(class=warrior;paladin;death_knight) then RNG_cuck_mode 1
Straight from the game's source code, no need to thank me

warm crag
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go look at the ret channel, they have a role system for if you have the legendary or not

unreal onyx
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that would be giga funny if that was the case here too

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petition to implement it in here

gritty juniper
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our ret paladin still hasnt gotten his and he's going bald

silver mantle
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I'm going to go bald, too

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Before I get it

unreal onyx
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one of our rets and one warrior don't have it either

warm crag
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@young swan wouldve argued that this channel needs an augury + signet role system instead as he'd rather have those instead of legendary thougths?

clever path
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Good