fury

[clever path]

and imagine paladin with orange stick

[tall turret]

Me scrolling down those tuning notes

[clever path]

[slim coral]

And it’s uncapped right?

[clever path]

divine storm has no cap

[slim coral]

I don’t see anything about being capped

Yeah sick

What’s really nuts is the uptime range you have

[sour frigate]

[slim coral]

Meanwhile we gotta hug the ad or bosses nutsack

[glad plover]

Like honestly, at this point, there is defo something going on with balancing teams and warriors,

[slim coral]

To dps

[sour frigate]

[rugged palm]

did rets even need a buff

[slim coral]

Also why is our utility so bad compared to other melee

[clever path]

Nope lol

[nova garnet]

@still swift is this you

[slim coral]

Every single melee spec I’ve tried seems op asf

[tall turret]

No, that really surprised me too (Ret getting buffed)

[glad plover]

You could argue all classes but DH and BM needed buff, Ret was in exactly same spot as Fury.

[rugged palm]

yeah weird af

[hardy cargo]

cmon we get shockwave

[still swift]

thats u

[clever path]

You know, the only downside of playing paladin is that instead of brown blob you are pink blob

[rugged palm]

fury just getting ignored

[clever path]

Otherwise Retribution is basically arms on steroids

[sour frigate]

Op rally

[slim coral]

I know nothing about Nina she seems cool

[tall turret]

I've had a paladin just shy of level cap for like a decade now, perhaps it is time

[slim coral]

[hardy cargo]

it happens every tier: fury tuned middle of pack->everyone else gets buffed, fury untouched-> we are dogshit after everyone else gets buffed

[hardy cargo]

50% nerf btw 🙂

[sour frigate]

Bedge

[slim coral]

Wokeage

[sour frigate]

No wokege

[hardy cargo]

[slim coral]

Time to watch fury die

[sour frigate]

Roll into ww

[slim coral]

I’m going slayer

[hardy cargo]

blademaster when

[rugged palm]

but we bring battleshout so its ok

[molten spear]

lol

[glad plover]

Yeah I have no words for this, like I do not mind that we did not get buffed, we were doing solid job overall, but after seeing that Retribution got buffed I am actually without word

[clever path]

better battle shout

[rugged palm]

yeah 100% didn't need it. its pretty revealing on how out of touch they are

[sour frigate]

At least retri is shit in st right?

[slim coral]

I’m tired of people counting battle shout as utility against us

[molten spear]

no guys, we are fine, they did good to buff everyone else and not fury, you don't get it

[clever path]

not anymore

[molten spear]

i don't either

[rugged palm]

maybe they reacted to the noise that the largest played class made

[molten spear]

but it's fine

[clever path]

templar verdict buffed by 20%

[rugged palm]

i mean theres only a billion rets

[clever path]

thats an st ability

[sour frigate]

Bedge

[molten spear]

by voting of the sets war are more right?

idk

[silver mantle]

Guys, did you see the fury warrior class changes??

[sour frigate]

The +0% buff

Yes

[tall turret]

I am already struggling to get in keys as it is m8

[sour frigate]

[silver mantle]

Yes, huge buffs

[molten spear]

oh the spear change! Amazing, thx

[sour frigate]

Jeez

[clever path]

Tbf spear doesnt even do half of things visually it used to

[sour frigate]

Brutal

[clever path]

like that woosh sounds

and the area of effect looks invisible

[slim coral]

Nice ret buffs hit it’s gg for warriors in keys

[clever path]

so hard to tell where the fuck its happenin

[slim coral]

Ret has 10 times the utility in keys

[glad plover]

this is distribution of dps specs in 25+ Like who looks and this and has idea to buff PALADINS

[sour frigate]

And now 1.5 damage bedge

[hardy cargo]

at least we still have better prio dam and boss dam than ret

[molten spear]

cause problem is not just spear but em... but what do i know i'm bad and stupid apparently

[clever path]

[hardy cargo]

at the cost of doing shit overall in comparison and having 0 util

[sour frigate]

[clever path]

cope

real real cope

Man, I feel so stupid opposing warrior and facing reality

[hardy cargo]

being real its not cope, they wont do more st, or prio damage than us in keys

[clever path]

what happened to us man

[hardy cargo]

but we will do way less aoe and have no util

so theyre stil lway better

[clever path]

Overall damage meters will be fantastic tho

trust me on that

[silver mantle]

They will do more dmg than us for the simple reason they will be invited to keys and we won't

XD

[clever path]

Real

[silver mantle]

You can't do dmg if you're not in the key

last time I checked.

[hardy cargo]

real

[sour frigate]

I didnt even reach 3400

[hardy cargo]

perhaps buy your io?

you wont be getting it in pugs after next week

[sour frigate]

Its not worth it sadly

[hardy cargo]

[fiery harbor]

i think he's lying

[glad plover]

Yeah this, this is really bad wave of balancing for us

[south kayak]

Fake news

[sour frigate]

He has big plate armour the real tank

[tall turret]

It's been another disastrous morning.

[proud vessel]

Will arms pull ahead of fury with their buffs in m+?

[clever path]

dont think so

it will go up in popularity for sure and arms scientists will be able to pull big stuff

but i am not sure how more vialbe its going to become than fury

i mean we still have amazing burst but thats it

people say we have better ST / Prio than retribution , but just how Critcake once told - "Everyone is gangsta until they meet a paladin who knows how to press buttons" - @mossy fox

[fading sky]

i boosted mine .. still has 412 gear 😄

[clever path]

here is a secret - buy 4x18 if you want to boost a char

source: i am a booster

[fading sky]

kek still to sexpensive

[clever path]

plate stack too

[fading sky]

not that i condone boosts

but what would that cost me ?

[clever path]

somewhere around 520k - 650k

[fading sky]

kek

id rather get fyrakk hc boosts

for the memes then

😄

[clever path]

next week for sure

[fading sky]

i want a 412 with leggo 😄

[covert blaze]

[clever path]

i need nitro to send juicy animated emotes too

but sadly im not a giga gamer

i know guys

maybe warrior devs are on perma vacation?

maybe they have discovered other games and just sit work from home but in reality just play other games and join ms teams meetings just to be present and during patch days they just sign off on the updates

[hardy cargo]

warrior devs working on palworld that swhy its pokemon with guns

[meager gyro]

should I spend 700k on myth helm so I don't waste vault slot ? it's for SMF toon

[calm mantle]

I love joining a key, getting through 2 pulls noticing they have a 412 in my key and they don't respond when I make a comment.

[meager gyro]

NA player ?

[calm mantle]

It was an OCE Lobby

[meager gyro]

yeah more a prob on NA, it's on EU too, but not usually. anytime there's a preparty group, usually one carrying the other

[somber elk]

guys how can I apply if i want to boost keys?^^

[calm mantle]

See I wouldn't have a huge issue if I was informed, it's only an 18 it's fine. But to just straight up do it then ignore when I say something. They can't even interrupt and I'm just out right dying to shit I shouldn't either.

Not worth the effort or time.

[oblique trail]

By finding a boosting community

There are plenty to go around

[somber elk]

can you maybe send me a link where to apply? sorry^^

[calm mantle]

Or maybe do research yourself simple google search would do.

[clever path]

yes

SMF warrior is better than fury warrior

[clever belfry]

smf = super mega fucks

so true

[nova garnet]

Depends on what gold is worth to you

But yes, make SMF dream work

[clever path]

he is an smf warrior

he got all the swagaroo

[clever belfry]

me when the balls

[nova garnet]

BofA

[clever belfry]

i forgor what this means

[clever belfry]

so true king

so true

[oblique trail]

[clever belfry]

bro...

parse 100 on fyrakkus and come back to me or

[oblique trail]

sorry I'm busy preparing for 0 on tindie

[clever belfry]

kaiser

[oblique trail]

I will be rank 1 either way

[clever belfry]

soon i will be back on brown man

[oblique trail]

soon i will be back on purple man

Slowly ramping

[clever belfry]

vry slowly indeed

thats like 5h of work

getting 472

[oblique trail]

I have no slaves

I mean

friends

[clever belfry]

acquire slaves then

[oblique trail]

to help me spam 17/20s for aspects and gear

getting HC boost now though

[clever belfry]

whatst that shit cost rn

[oblique trail]

so watch me get HC aug on alt before my main even sees the chance

err

paying 130k saved

because I'm poorlol

[clever belfry]

noob

[oblique trail]

twice that for unsaved

yes I'm very noob

[nova garnet]

Tindral should've been a boomkin

[clever belfry]

no do not

[oblique trail]

I don't have lego so I need to save cash money

[nova garnet]

Some could have chimken tindies

[clever belfry]

play boomer on tindralus

[clever path]

i got signet on rog before warr

2 day old rogue

[clever belfry]

kaiser

[nova garnet]

Don't play boomkin*

Corrected

[oblique trail]

my rat warrior got lfr brand in first vault with 4p from 1 lfr clear

[nova garnet]

I'm saying if tindral was the boomkin

[clever path]

[warped bone]

When was actually the last time fury got any changes in this expansion? as in what patch.

[eternal sundial]

This ptr cycle xd

Since they changed ra

[warped bone]

Fun 😄

[glad plover]

There was rework on onslaught and AM Ravager

10.5.

If they buff us next patch that will be frequency of patches for warriors, once a year

[warped bone]

Being buffed for fated would feel like such a troll

[granite ridge]

Can FURY warriors ask blizzard for a new entry to the shop ?
Like we do with race change maybe they put a FREE Class Change for FURY so we all go and play something that actually stands in raids and in m+ setups ?

3 balancing patch we had 0 changes ... are we that great balanced and i dont get it ?

no buffs no CR no BL wtf we bring on ?

[molten spear]

we are very mid and we are apparently ok with it, so don't try to start this, i was already mad enough this morning when i saw the buffs, but majority of people are ok with it

[coarse nest]

War is supposed to be the damage dealer

[restive peak]

We are not ok with it

[coarse nest]

Except we just bring less than the rest

[restive peak]

No good player is ok with it

[molten spear]

oh yes they are, check the conversation of this morning @restive peak and there was some good war talking

[coarse nest]

We can bring enough stops we just don’t provide any group utility

[restive peak]

And whoever is arguing we’re still above ret for M+ is actually lacking brain cells, they were already in the same tier as us (we had better dmg they had WAY more utility), they now have equal or better dmg and way more utility

[molten spear]

better damage depending on the key tbf, a lot of keys ret was above fury

[restive peak]

Crit and I were in here last night discussing how bad this is for us, I don’t consider 3200 IO people good players, they’re average nd don’t play to max potential anyway

Ret is now a tier above us, which means we are now behind many melee specs and will be on the bench

[coarse nest]

Spoken like a true title player

[restive peak]

Why does anyone care about power levels at levels that are doable by all, and mean you aren’t playing to full capacity anyway? If you only do 20-22s, your spec doesn’t mean much, but this absolutely fucks us for high end M+ and that’s literally become most of the endgame challenge of wow

[nova garnet]

A bit out of touch no?

[restive peak]

For 28-30s, warr is now the least desired melee, and it’s not close.

[nova garnet]

There's no chance that's average

[restive peak]

3200 io this patch is a time commitment, average players would get there with enough time

At 486+ ilvl it’s just time

I don’t mean 50% of the population IS 3200, but 50%+ if given 6 weeks to only play keys and they wanted to would be 3200io

[coarse nest]

He’s not wrong about his least desired melee take but saying 3200 players are bad is just a L take

[restive peak]

I didn’t say bad, I said average

[fading sky]

its becasue at 28-30

u can play meta

[restive peak]

Bad is hard to find, WoW is very simple until the highest content and just requires some time and patience

[coarse nest]

The sample size for 3300+ is extremely small

Well above average players

[fading sky]

if the specs are decently balanced up until 25-27 its not to bad

[molten spear]

3300 is mid probably, idk

[restive peak]

The average player could reach 3200 if time commitment wasn’t an issue

[fading sky]

thats the worst arguement ever

[nova garnet]

It's hard to even draw the line where bad is

[restive peak]

I’m 3200 on my dogshit 478 DH that I’m mid at

[fading sky]

even the dumbest person could become a docter with enough time

[restive peak]

That’s not true lol

[fading sky]

yeah it is

with enough time

[nova garnet]

Do you draw it at people stuck at 15s, do you draw it at people who can't do normal raid?

[restive peak]

…ok

[coarse nest]

The average player in this game gets excited to complete a 18 for their highest vault reward

Let alone a 25

[nova garnet]

Where do you draw the line for who's bad, and I agree it's pretty hard to find a truly awful player

[sullen basin]

Ye

I got 2670 with little effort

[fading sky]

theres quite the leap though 😄

[restive peak]

And if the player who completed an 18 is capable of a 23 with 5-7 more dungeon runs of that dungeon

It slows down drastically after 3450, so no it’s not much of a jump

[fading sky]

i mean all depends if u mean completing a key, with being carried by better players

[restive peak]

My DH at 3200 has like 12 of 16 at 20/21

[fading sky]

or playing with players of same skill

[molten spear]

i found a lot of dogs in 25s too, i started pushing last week and there a lot of apes at 3300 score....

[fading sky]

most of those apes are meta classes

fotm players

[restive peak]

Exactly, because the difference between those 3300 people and a 2900 player is commitment

They just played a shit load more

[fading sky]

nah

[molten spear]

agree tbh

[restive peak]

You just anecdotally proved my point

[fading sky]

they played classes that get invited

[coarse nest]

You have to understand that Lincs perspective is from bleeding edge content doer PoV so of course this is a reasonable take in his mind

[fading sky]

easily

i mean at what 28-30

[coarse nest]

People doing 25s and up are well above the average

[fading sky]

u are playing with a team anyways ?

[restive peak]

If I didn’t push bleeding edge I wouldn’t care about balance, honestly, because as bad as balance is it doesn’t rear its head until then

[coarse nest]

20s are very challenging for most people in this game

[fading sky]

so what does it matter if ret is stronger ?

[granite ridge]

Who tells you that just because you are having free time on your day you are better player buddy the score ? You should start reconcider that . And also what if i dont wanna go on 28s and i wanna do 25s am still gonna be benched cause retri or havoc or anyother better class ... is that fun you think ? And also we all saw your GOOD warriors dmg you been carried by other classes who was topping meters . Be mature and speak the truth you got carried by other classes higher you cant bring that as a class but as grp .

[restive peak]

That’s not true, many average players did 20s week 1 for vault lol

[restive peak]

I think you’re strongly misinterpreting what I’m saying, I am saying we are now bad and it sucks.

[coarse nest]

In my opinion somebody doing 20s week 1 is a well above average player

[restive peak]

Also weird take, I’m behind our DH on overall but ahead of our mage, so very weird to say my damage got carried

[granite ridge]

We are bad from the start of the season3 . Cause when a spec have 496 ilvl weapon legendary and BiS slots and still its under perfoming its a HUGE fail of blizzard

[primal plover]

anyone else want some popcorn?

[molten spear]

again... how? @coarse nest week this season exspecially were ez even at 450 ilvl

[restive peak]

We were not bad, we have been the just outside meta melee spec and been quite good

[coarse nest]

World first keys week 1 where what like 22? Maybe 23

[restive peak]

However bumping ANOTHER spec ahead of us damage wise will drop us drastically

[coarse nest]

20 was high at that point

[restive peak]

20 was not, I know world 1000th guilds who had 8 20s in all raiders week 1?

20s are faceroll, they can be 3 manned at 485+

[abstract leaf]

There were a decent amount of people that had done a 20 week 1, but by no means did "the average player" do a +20 week 1

Also, a world 1000 guild is still not "the average player"

[coarse nest]

They are easy for me and the players I game with as well but that does not mean they are not above the average players capabilities

[abstract leaf]

If you think that, you are very delusional tbf

[molten spear]

idk who is this average player you keep talking about tbh

[restive peak]

I’m sorry, if you’re in a world 1000th guild you’ve fairly average

[abstract leaf]

No, people in a world 1000 guild are not the average players in wow

[restive peak]

Considering more than half of wow players don’t even ATTEMPT raid or m+

[abstract leaf]

Not even close to it

[molten spear]

if you are in a world 1000 guild you are very average

right?

[restive peak]

They are average at the content they choose to participate in

You are adding people who actively CHOOSE NOT TO participate into your calculations

The 60+% of wow who never do a heroic boss are not factored into the average of the 40% who do, and the only reason you’d factor it in is to create a false sense of superiority

A world 1000th guild is just 20 people who stuck it out and aren’t completely braindead, aka average

[granite ridge]

The only average i see around buddy is your IQ ... cause you keep saying that ppl are average on a game you spend 25 hours per day . When others are working hard and have family ... when we had that time i didnt recall your name in top warriors .

[restive peak]

I spend 25 hrs a day here eh

[coarse nest]

3 digit Mythic rank is well above the average raider in wow

[restive peak]

Pretty hilarious take my man

[bitter fable]

Idk what you on about about but according to raider io s data 3.2 is the 1% of m+ runners

Deffo not average

[abstract leaf]

The fact that a lot of people don't participate in mythic raiding skews it in favor of my argument; not yours

[low folio]

linc is under whats called the elitist effect where anyone whos not at the rank 1 title is average

[clever path]

thats not what it is mate

[restive peak]

Considering I manage an extremely successful coaching department of a gym and have a wife, but way to go for personal lives that you A. Should probably grow up and not consider these things and B. You know nothing about

[clever path]

sorry, but you are too fixated on branding people

[low folio]

thats basically what he is saying

[restive peak]

No actually, im one of the worst “good” warriors

[abstract leaf]

Again, if you think the #1000 world mythic raiding guild is a good representation of what the average player is like, then you are very delusional. Even if you count in the fact that a huge part of people don't participate

The vast majority of people who don't participate would not be better than those in the top 1000 to begin with

[restive peak]

And the top 40% in that charge is of the people who do M+, which is not the average wow player

The average active M+ person will end up 3200ish, if you removed every person who did say under…20 keys a season, that 3200 would suddenly become 30-40% of the M+ player base

[restive peak]

If they played the same amount, they absolutely would be.

[wicked plinth]

This is the wildest most twisted logic to get to average player I’ve ever seen

[abstract leaf]

"The average active m+ person who plays X hours a day and..."

So basically

[coarse nest]

That’s like saying remove anyone above 3200 to create a sample size for the average

That’s just not how it works

[abstract leaf]

"Average" here is subjective to what correlates to your definition

ok

[restive peak]

The average M+ player has to PLAY M+ to be considered in the average.

[abstract leaf]

Average is not a subjective thing btw; it's an objective metric

[wicked plinth]

Average player != average mythic raider or average top 1% mythic plus player

[abstract leaf]

Just pointing that out

[wicked plinth]

It means average player

Wild

[restive peak]

I cant be an average soccer player if I do not play soccer

You can’t be an average M+ player if you do not play M*

[coarse nest]

Time spent =/= rank

[wicked plinth]

You can’t say someone on Barcelona is average when you exclude every other team but the top 1% of teams

[restive peak]

Businesses don’t compare their profit margins to different businesses, they compare them to competitors of the same business

Because shoes compared to iPads is a fucking stupid comparison to base metrics on

[abstract leaf]

There are people who play all season long and do their best and still end up at around 2100 rating for example; so even with your skewed conditions, that doesn't pan out

[covert blaze]

very true

[restive peak]

So if you want to pretend your 3200 ranking makes you top 1% because 60+% of the wow population doesn’t play M* AT ALL, go nuts bro, congrats on your false equivalency based ego I guess

[wicked plinth]

Yea that I actually agree with

[restive peak]

But removing that 60% would very quickly bring you back to reality and that’s that 3200 is average skill wise

[restive peak]

These people are 1 in 10000 to be THAT POOR at the game

[covert blaze]

time spent = rank in m+, for sure

[abstract leaf]

Did you know that the people who don't play M+ AT ALL are not counted in that pool?

[restive peak]

WoW is a very simple game until mechanics demand planning, which doesn’t start until very high keys

[covert blaze]

this game requires like no reaction time lol

[restive peak]

Did you know that completing ONE +2 puts you into that pool?

[covert blaze]

it's all knowledge mostly

[restive peak]

^

[abstract leaf]

You said "AT ALL"

[coarse nest]

It simply doesn’t, each individual player caps at a certain point

[restive peak]

Doing one +2 one time to try it across a 6-8 month season is not participating

[coarse nest]

I could try to do 30s in a pug for 3 years and it would probably never be successful

[restive peak]

I have filled in for a friends soccer team on one occasion, I do not play soccer at all, and I still consider that

[covert blaze]

idk you seem personally hurt, like lincc said that 3200 is average and you are at or below that ranking and you got triggered

[restive peak]

^

[coarse nest]

I’m far from triggered

[restive peak]

This is 110% what’s happening here

[covert blaze]

cause you don't seem to know what youre talking about

[coarse nest]

We’re discussing

What the average player is

[covert blaze]

when m+ is all about repetition and practice

and you say time spent =/= rank

when talking about the repetition play all day minigame

[abstract leaf]

I don't know what he said that would come across as feeling triggered

[restive peak]

I’m not a great player, for the record, I’m above average because of time and muscle memory and knowledge, but Crit/Gajeel/Biz etc would absolutely pump me

[coarse nest]

I said nothing to appear triggered it’s just how zhai try’s to appear above the person they’re debating with

You might not read as much chat as I do

[coarse nest]

That may be the case but that doesn’t make you a average player bro

[covert blaze]

he said that saying 3200 is average is out of touch

[restive peak]

I said above average

[coarse nest]

Because it is lmao

[winged charm]

I mean if u take raw numbers 3.2k is way above avg

[restive peak]

I am absolutely above average, but this idea I have some ego where I think calling you average is an elitist insult is stupid as shit

You missed a lot Dingle

[coarse nest]

Talk about living in a bubble

[covert blaze]

yeah i think you dont like being called average

idk

[winged charm]

People at 3.7+ are just out of touch with what avg wow player accomplish

[acoustic furnace]

3200 is way above average. Anyone who thinks otherwise is insane.

[restive peak]

Raw numbers don’t tell the story

[acoustic furnace]

Average is like 2800-3000

[winged charm]

3.2 isnt avg is a fact there is nothing to miss

Avg doesnt even do all 20s

[low folio]

your making up percentages you dont actually know though linc, if we are being technical

[winged charm]

Which is 2.8k

[restive peak]

If you take every AVERAGELY SKILLED PLAYER and gave them a team for 4 weeks, and had them run 4 keys a day

They would be beyond 3200

[winged charm]

Nope

[restive peak]

Yes

[low folio]

most people i assume pug though

[winged charm]

Ok god gamerx

[abstract leaf]

Not even close

[restive peak]

And you are delusional of your skill

And that’s ok

[covert blaze]

depends on what you call average then i guess
i think the point is that anyone can get 3200 just playing enough

which is what lincc is saying i think

[restive peak]

I used to pretend I was great at league and my team held me back, turns out I’m just average at it

[acoustic furnace]

But the average player isn't slamming out keys every day to push io.

[warm crag]

3.2k is top 1% score this is probable ye

[covert blaze]

i typed that before reading this lol

[restive peak]

Zhai only one with reading comprehension

[coarse nest]

I’m a 24/25 key doer I know I’m not a bleeding edge key doer and I’m okay with that but saying those keys are “average players” is just wrong and spoken from a bubble

[clever path]

what are you guys even arguing about

we shouldnt fight each other

we should fight blizzard balancing fkin team

[covert blaze]

[restive peak]

This isn’t about what they ARE DOING, it’s about the fact that they are capable

[low folio]

fighting each other is the way

blizzard hates us anyways

[abstract leaf]

@restive peak I'm way above that myself, but I have friends who are pretty good at the game and they're still around that score

[bitter fable]

Exactly thank you
This whole thing is just ....

[restive peak]

The averagely skilled wow player can reach 3200 if they committed to it

Can reach does not equal is

Or will be

[abstract leaf]

What they "could" do is irrelevant though

[warm crag]

im willing to claim the other 99% just dont have the time or ppl to push with

[coarse nest]

This is simply a case of everybody below my rank is average

Gg go next

[restive peak]

If you think you being 3200 means you’re super good, I’m sorry I offended your ego bubble

[abstract leaf]

That's like saying the average would be 3.7k if every wow player played m+ and dedicated 17 hours a day to it

Just nonsense argument

[restive peak]

No they wouldn’t

Because beyond 3400ish you need a team dynamic

3200 is like all 23s, and 485 ilvl carries you through 23s

[winged charm]

3.2k isnt cracked

3200 is simply 24s and 25s

[forest owl]

here's me just sitting here with 2850 score

[low folio]

what io is an average aug evoker is the real question. atleast before the nerfs

[warm crag]

me when i simply must invent what someone has said

[winged charm]

The avg wow player does 17s

[restive peak]

I have 1 25 on my DH and tons of 20/21s and is 3200

[warm crag]

significantly lower

[covert blaze]

lmao

[glad plover]

This is from your point of view, only 10% of people are timing 20s for example, that means, by definition that everybody who is doing 20 is "above average" player.

[restive peak]

This exactly lol

[winged charm]

If u think u put 5 people that do those keys and they get to 25 keys as a team

[coarse nest]

I don’t think anybody is trying to argue that 3200 score is like insane god tier whatever but to say that score is average is just a poor take

[winged charm]

U are beyond delusional

[coarse nest]

It’s that simple

[clever path]

noob

[acoustic furnace]

Cap. I've got three 23s and 21s across the board and I'm not even 3k yet.

[clever path]

2912

[covert blaze]

we are talking about potential

[clever path]

[covert blaze]

lol

this discussion is crazy

people cant read

frfr

[abstract leaf]

What does it matter what the reason is why people don't play or why they don't have a certain score though? The reality is that the average is not even close to 3.2k; you can come up with any reason you want

Doesn't change a thing

[restive peak]

Reading comprehension is a dead skill, man.

[winged charm]

The avg will never be 3.2k for wow players no matter how u wanna twist what u are talking about cause the avg is struggling at timing 1 20 key

[glad plover]

I do understand that, I am just pointing out the fact, yes skilled average skilled player can invest time and get 3200, I agree

[coarse nest]

I definitely read and comprehend all of lincs statements. We just have different opinions on what a “average player” is

[restive peak]

Which is my argument, so thank you for agreeing.

[heavy ether]

m+ beyond 20 is pure ego, imagine being surprised when the "high rio" players then have a high ego

[winged charm]

If u think every1 but 1 person is missunderstanding you maybe u just suck at making a point

[warm crag]

when did he say its 100% average? any time he's put that label on it i believe he disclaimed that he's talking abt potential, as in give them several weeks of focused prep and pushing with a somewhat competent team any "average" player can reach 3.2k

[clever path]

just zug zug on the keyboard - thats the approach of many here

How Archie once told "Being dicks for sake of just being dicks"

[tall turret]

Average is wide ranging, I started playing WoW nearly 20 years ago with 3 other friends and they didn't really ever get past clicking abilities and keyboard turning in the few years we all played at the same time

[glad plover]

Thing is definition of "average" is not top 10% of players

[forest owl]

yeah i think the issue here is people have different standards of 'average'

[restive peak]

I mean spongie gets it just fine

And is re-explaining it to you

[covert blaze]

yeah i respect spongus and lincc and they agree

[abstract leaf]

There's no point in talking about potential when talking about averages; because the average doesn't care about reasons; it is simply there

And it is not 3200

[covert blaze]

can we move on

[acoustic furnace]

So what I see is "If they practice and work to be above average they'll do better".

[robust widget]

how? im all 22s, some 23s, 2 24s and 2 25s and im not even 3.1

[covert blaze]

we could argue what's average and what is not all day with no end

[clever path]

fury warriors didnt get buffs while others have gained something gg

[acoustic furnace]

Bc he's cappin'

[abstract leaf]

@acoustic furnace

[restive peak]

Fine, all of you over 2700 are god tier, do we all feel better?

[somber elk]

Dhes get more Score then ?

[clever path]

lol

[abstract leaf]

He's triggered

[low folio]

does this mean arms will now be bigger dps meters

[covert blaze]

like when you ask people what ''high elo'' is in league, they usually say diamond 4, diamond 1, master or challenger 1500 lp. You know what they base their answer on? their own rank

[restive peak]

Blindlinc sargeras, maybe I do have a few 22/23s, but certainly nothing crazy

[coarse nest]

“Average” changes based on your perspective apparently, not looking at actual data

[warped bone]

I do 20s' I was once tricked into a 22. It ruined my wonderful only 20s score

[winged charm]

Noone is trying to make that point bro your definition of avg is just wrong

[dry talon]

Anger Management now reduces Recklessness and Ravager’s cooldown by 1 second per 15 rage spent (was 20 rage).

[abstract leaf]

@covert blaze No, because that is actually high rank

[dry talon]

ya all saw this sht ?

[wicked plinth]

Only if you didn’t give them enough time to practice as the people pushing 25s have gotten. It’s a scripted game. There is no huge jump besides knowing when to pop a defensive

[warped bone]

That's PvP only no?

[covert blaze]

you're missing the point.

[oblique trail]

That's pvp only

[winged charm]

Watch those people do dps

[coarse nest]

Nah that’s average since it’s not the highest rank obviously

[restive peak]

He doesn’t understand Zhai, we are speaking to a wall

[winged charm]

And tell.me they time.it

[warm crag]

if you play an incredibly time intensive and knowledge based minigame you will only reach "average score" by investing "average" amounts of time, ye sure

[winged charm]

Sure give them 2 season practice and a coach maybe they will

[coarse nest]

Average at best

[covert blaze]

i am very sorry that you literally cant read

[restive peak]

Damn I’m better at my DH than I thought JK those are average keys for the affixes

[winged charm]

But then they arent avg anymore

[covert blaze]

my condolences

[coarse nest]

You can think I can’t read all you want

[low folio]

this is fun

[winged charm]

50 Points from 3.2k is a lot

[restive peak]

Incase you missed my sarcasm, I am absolutely mid at DH, I just learned that your backflip is actually a dmg CD

[bitter fable]

Was that PvP only ?

[robust widget]

all good, i was just wondering how you were 3.2 with the initial comment so figured i'd ask

[abstract leaf]

tHe AvErAgE iS nOt AvErAgE bEcAuSe If ThEy GoT bEtTeR, tHeY'd Be HiGhEr

[low folio]

i wish i was drunk so i could start some shit myself with no filter for fun

[abstract leaf]

[coarse nest]

Back flipping is actually goated aye

[restive peak]

It’s not getting better, that’s what you don’t get…it’s just playing the key

[oblique trail]

We love movement skills being a DPS increase

(no sarcasm)

[warm crag]

legendary is a leap (real) (movement technology)

[restive peak]

You can’t time a 25 if you’ve never done a 25, but I think you’d be shocked to find how easy the 23>25 jump truly is

[covert blaze]

ok bro just find the exact percentiles and compare yourself to them, so your ego is less hurt cause you are not ''average''

[restive peak]

We can’t wait for leggo bois

[oblique trail]

leap weave with lego

[restive peak]

@warm crag how long was the grind?

[coarse nest]

Are you talking??

[warm crag]

i am a top 10 percentile m+er do not shittalk me

[restive peak]

Hahahahahaha

[warm crag]

(thats 2.7k score)

[oblique trail]

NOOB

I'm 2.9k

I will shittalk you

[warm crag]

ouchie

[coarse nest]

Send voice message please

[covert blaze]

i am 51% percentile, im above average guys

[coarse nest]

I can’t read

[warm crag]

pushing score to shittalk bane

[clever path]

im 3357 on thrall

[oblique trail]

please do not

[clever path]

lol

[oblique trail]

you have the weapon

[abstract leaf]

The average just jumped up to 3.4k guys, while we were chatting

[oblique trail]

I can not compete

[coarse nest]

Damn sucks to be average

[low folio]

linc is just an optimist that thinks highly of the wow playerbase. i myself am a pessimist who believes there are tons of people like my 64 year old dad who plays demo lock and does less than half of tank dps in keys

[clever path]

yeah

[abstract leaf]

A few people decided to dedicate themselves to m+

[coarse nest]

Only got that score because you can play a lot

[warm crag]

not too bad? if you join legendary farming groups you can easily finish the rare kills in 1-2 hours with some frenzies

[coarse nest]

[acoustic furnace]

Woah now guys you're all below average average players time 26s both weeks apparently

[winged charm]

@warm crag tell me how to loot weap fyrakk hates me

[clever path]

yeah it is what it is

[coarse nest]

Guys in such a bubble it’s wild

I respect linc

Zhai is just throwing shit

[abstract leaf]

Don't do drugs, kids

[restive peak]

Noice kk, I’ll need to know when I get it in 7 weeks lewl

[abstract leaf]

All I can say

[warm crag]

the wall was superblooms but if you conscript ppl to buff you (i think this is actually severely bugged) you're done in 4-5 superblooms

[pallid barn]

would anyone know why this macro for spear isnt working? #showtooltip spear of bastion
/cast [@cursor] spear of bastion

[restive peak]

Cbd is a god send bro

[warm crag]

its not spear of bastion anymore

[winged charm]

They renamed the spell

[covert blaze]

the name changed

[pallid barn]

wtf

thatll do it then

[low folio]

cbd and thc gummies just put me to sleep. doesnt matter what i try i just get tired

[restive peak]

I dread the bloom

[warm crag]

its not that bad shrug

[restive peak]

That’s what I use em for

[covert blaze]

it's not bad

[restive peak]

Ye 5 isn’t bad

I expected 15 lol

[warm crag]

just turn it into an impromptu community event and conscript like 3-4 warrior buddies to blast more burst

[covert blaze]

just get some helper every bloom if possible and lfg a raid group

[acoustic furnace]

I love that we ask for buffs and they just make one of our abilities look worse and have a different name

[warm crag]

@oblique trail @eternal sundial @indigo quarry

@still swift you were there too

[covert blaze]

also drop combat before last boss if youre still on the rare quest, you can tether the boss guy and loot him

[restive peak]

The new spear looks like dogwater I hate it

[oblique trail]

I don't think Nina even got the quest

To help you

Or got enough progress

[clever path]

had to drop it during deployment in iraq in 2008

havent done it since

[warm crag]

i do not care for the company provided was wonderful

[oblique trail]

very true

[restive peak]

I sleep so much worse without it

[clever path]

yeah my sleep has seen better days too

[restive peak]

😦

[coarse nest]

You guys sleep??

[clever path]

her

[low folio]

im afraid to click on that

[warm crag]

her sighting

[covert blaze]

I'm happy we got this emote

[covert blaze]

it's 11 am

i've been awake an entire day

i'm too old for this shit man

[oblique trail]

beware the powerful creature for if it spots you or senses you, your time is limited

[still swift]

hi where

[granite ridge]

name of the spear have changed

[clever path]

/cast [@cursor] Champion's spear

[oblique trail]

I think just another person should tell them

[coarse nest]

I got you ban

[indigo quarry]

enjoying the lego ?

[coarse nest]

/cast [@cursor] Champion's spear

[worldly shard]

lol

[nova garnet]

Nina Smelly

[worldly shard]

i didnt even know i had 2 signets

[coarse nest]

[worldly shard]

couldve sold the heroic one

[coarse nest]

Holllyy trinkets

[worldly shard]

that i rolled 100 on

[covert blaze]

where MY 3%
fury dev asleep at the wheel

[nova garnet]

Fury is fine

[worldly shard]

this was a nice roll tho

[still swift]

hi babes whats up

[coarse nest]

HOLLLYY

[covert blaze]

[coarse nest]

Avoidance king

[nova garnet]

@covert blaze id you buff every spec by 3%< it's not a buff

[worldly shard]

running 10% avoidance

[still swift]

[nova garnet]

It's content nerf

[worldly shard]

atm

[covert blaze]

and if you dont buff 1 spec, you nerf it

whats your point

[nova garnet]

Fury was fine

[still swift]

everyone here is cruved. So should all know what to do. But with experience it shows that not always the case

[nova garnet]

Didn't need buff

[worldly shard]

pretty sure i had all of the trinkets from the raid

except for the fyrakk one

[covert blaze]

i still dont have heroic augury

[coarse nest]

L

[soft otter]

I got so lucky I got myth track augury in like my 2nd vault

[nova garnet]

@still swift go to gym get same body as pfp

[covert blaze]

I'm an L collector

[nova garnet]

The drewaaaaaam

[thorny thorn]

Is it better to roll arms loot as a fury warrior for vault/M+?

[opal monolith]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6P97hbkwVY2PDXxLD2Q9uh

is this a normal sim for someone my ilvl?

[covert blaze]

yes, so you dont get 1 handers

[coarse nest]

I’ve got like what 8-10 weeks to farm a avoidance augury in vault since we perma extending tindral>fyrakk

[worldly shard]

+489rezan

all of my last vaults

only took socket this week

[coarse nest]

Might be L though to take a 2nd augury just for avoidance

[covert blaze]

lol i have almost the same 489s, gorehowl might and pants

and some other shit i dont remember

[worldly shard]

i had head 489 but took ember

cuz i dont have augury

[covert blaze]

oh yeah i have tier 489

helm

[coarse nest]

489 once Lego equip

[worldly shard]

just need legendary now and ill be running fyralath+489gorehowl

[covert blaze]

i only have 3/5 489 tier, not raiding is rough

[opal monolith]

guys howmuch do u sim on ST?

Anyone 🙂

[worldly shard]

i only do 2slots of raid + 1slot of m+

every week

sometimes 2 slots of m+

[worldly shard]

221k at 483.63

no legendary

[opal monolith]

ty

[covert blaze]

238

486

[worldly shard]

just gonna upgrade my shit, should get me close to 230k

maybe higher

idk how much the head scales

and im running double wafting

havent replaced enchant

on offhand

[opal monolith]

legendary?

@covert blaze

[covert blaze]

ye

[worldly shard]

leggo is 8-10k increase

[clever path]

12k for me

Went from 227 to 239

[coarse nest]

Need axe bad

[clever path]

Now at 244

[coarse nest]

[worldly shard]

im stuck in shadowlands and legion rn so im not rlly doing content

just doing my weekly fyrakk kill

and a few 20s

korthia and maw is torture

[silver mantle]

The more people talk about leggo, the worse I feel, knowing I probably wont ever get it :S

[frozen tartan]

Why would you even do that by now?

[worldly shard]

500 mounts

[frozen tartan]

But there is bad luck protection lmao

[worldly shard]

im +53 past 3weeks

[silver mantle]

BLP is probably broken on my account and it doesn't work.

[frozen tartan]

It's just a whole thing of nothing.

[silver mantle]

It's a placebo effect. Give us an on-use item that does nothing other than 100k in dmg

[worldly shard]

got russet first paragon chest

atleast

for protoform

[wild mural]

I only have 3/5 489 and I am 7/9m

[coarse nest]

I had luck this tier

489 tier pieces first 5 weeks in a row

[wild mural]

I've been lucky just not with augury

[coarse nest]

Augury took a little while just got it two vaults ago

[wild mural]

apart from myth shoulders and DHT belt its the onyl thing Im missing

[tepid shore]

All I need is mythic chest and I'm full build too.

[covert blaze]

My gear is dog ass

[covert blaze]

I think I'm 486.80 or something

[wild mural]

oof

[random hill]

What are these dog ass buffs for war

arms get some minor buffs fury none ret tons

wth is going on

[oblique trail]

They're out to get Warriors down

They have a deepseeded hatred for Warrior

[random hill]

for years man

for years now

[clever path]

paladin is just arms warrior but without bleeds

maybe they accidentally buffed ret yknow

maybe they misclicked

[hazy lily]

Pala got like 3% aura buffs and now this, meanwhile fury "this is fine"

[clever path]

wrong ss

Yeah that looks like 3% aura buffs to me

might as well buff it by 50%

[hazy lily]

the last buffs

of ret

wasnt it like 3 times 3%

and now THIS

[clever path]

Imagine if we'd see something like this but for warrior

15% bt damage
20% ww damage
20% execute damage
10% odyns fury damage

[random hill]

gief

pls

[coral nymph]

Nice next buff for rets and still nothing for fury!

[random hill]

Whirlwind now causes your next 6-st attack to ...

[unreal onyx]

nice 496 augury

[sinful spoke]

Dont ask for buffs guys swordfish is going to eat you alive

[still swift]

its like 5% btw

[wind furnace]

man, blizzard is trolling giving ret more buffs and fury nothing

[still swift]

his name is swordish

rude of u

[wind furnace]

Do we think arms overtakes fury now with the slight buffs?

[random hill]

his name doesnt buff warrior

[oblique trail]

Nina mispelling Banezi for the 75234th time but calling other people rude for mispelling another persons name

[sinful spoke]

Its swordfish now

[still swift]

ok how have i ever misspelt ur name

[sinful spoke]

Yeah nina hypocrite andy

[oblique trail]

any mix of letters starting with B and ending with zi

[still swift]

I didnt become ur Captain to get friends. But I feel like we have gotten close during this waiting time we spent together. We laugh, we cryed, we smiled and we loved. Lets wait a bit more to find the next family member. Thats unless u fck up because then ure out of here!

[oblique trail]

god

love this leader

[still swift]

ok im sorry from now on i will never make any cool words with your name anymore, Banezi.

I will only and exclusively call you Banezi, unless you're on your DH, then I will call you Benzai.

[oblique trail]

nani

[still swift]

If you so wish for this

Then let's do it banezi

no more joking around and fun!

[oblique trail]

you will soon perish

beware the moment it happens

[acoustic furnace]

Nah I don't think so

[wind furnace]

Archimitros is saying 3-3.5% buff for arms maybe 6% on MT and showing arms simming higher over fury now

[regal aurora]

Every round of tuning my tinfoil theory of Warriors being so consistently neglected because Mike Ybarra is too woke and doesn’t want to show favoritism to his class only grows stronger

[acoustic furnace]

Screw the sims I play Fury so Fury is better. But I also think bladestorm is a steaming pile of shit so I'm biased. Imagine not being able to CC for 6 seconds in exchange for mediocre damage.

[clever path]

[stuck bison]

bro i get invites for 24-25s then they kick me. they probably looking if i have orange stick xdd

i cba this legendary system

[regal aurora]

Equip shadowmourne and pray they don’t notice

[stuck bison]

hahaha good idea maybe i can bait

[acoustic furnace]

Just get the Lego bro easy peazy

(i don't have it please kill me)

[left perch]

Bazni is mad at Nina?

[stuck bison]

i ll get lego todays boost run for sure

i am almost out of copium tanks

[acoustic furnace]

I'm on greater ember #7 or 8. About to just start playing my rogue at this point.

[still swift]

yea :(

[sinful spoke]

hes valid

[clever path]

nice

i saved this

[wild mural]

huh

[still swift]

no lego guys :(

sad

[unreal onyx]

[oblique trail]

gg for u!!

[still swift]

im sorry banezi.

[acoustic furnace]

That would actually be an insane buff. Using GCDs on whirlwind feels bad.

[oblique trail]

What does this change though

[still swift]

whirlwind now causes all your attacks to only deal 90% of their original damage but also strikes up to 5 nearby enemies. lasts until cancelled.

[dry dragon]

Tbh fury doesn't need a buff needs a rework imo to many times in m+ you just don't have CDs in exe or on big packs which makes u do no DMG but if the stars align and u actually have CDs in exe or on big pulls u can kinda slam

[oblique trail]

Using it every 5th or every 7th GCD wont make a difference really

[dry dragon]

This

[oblique trail]

Right now you use WW as it comes off CD in AoE, and it's basically right after 4 attacks anyway

[unreal onyx]

with sos it does

well, kinda doesn't

if it was less than 5 it would

[acoustic furnace]

I'm not saying it's all we need I'm just saying it would definitely have an impact. Less WW means more of.. well literally anything better.

[dry dragon]

Most the time u don't have smthin better to press

[oblique trail]

WW isn't doing millions of damage but you wouldn't really notice a big DPS difference if it was for 4 attacks or 6 attacks unless it's a very tight damage window

[dry dragon]

Ww on like 6+ targets ends up doing more then slam and non empowered bb

[acoustic furnace]

Like I said not a be all end all buff just nice qol change

What we NEED is flat % increase to damage like ret got for whatever reason

[clever path]

I am giga mad

[acoustic furnace]

Wake of ashes getting an extra 20% is fucking insanity

[clever path]

No patches for fury, no buffs no nothing. Tier set appearance looks like fkin oven

what the hell

what is going OOOOOOOOOON

https://tenor.com/view/panda-flip-desk-freak-out-mad-gif-15503485

[sinful orbit]

You guys need to chill they did this a couple of times where they buff a class and then a week or two later reduce the buffs

Same with spriest last season

[acoustic furnace]

Or, counter offer: Buff fury.

[clever path]

I DONT BELIEVE

[tacit crag]

I'm surprised ret got AOE buffs. I expected st buffs for them.

[clever path]

Templar verdict is ST

[south kayak]

Final Verdict*

[tacit crag]

I'm saying all the st buffs they got I expected. The AOE ones as well is a surprise.

[still swift]

they got 5% st

[clever path]

[still swift]

[clever path]

Can fury warrior get 3% AOE increase

is that too much to ask for

[eternal sundial]

always happy to help (never make me do ths again)

[tacit crag]

Which imo they needed. Their AOE they didn't.

[clever path]

Did critcake already make a reaction vod on our mega buffs?

[summer quail]

Ofc not. No one was expecting any fury buffs

[south kayak]

I don't think so

[clever path]

we got em pvp changes tho

[south kayak]

sheesh

[sinful spoke]

guys why am i not getting invited to keys

[clever path]

untimed rise

[sinful spoke]

theres no way

[south kayak]

Skill issue

[sinful spoke]

im not getting invited

for one untimed key

[south kayak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148897941883584512/997086666961457203/chatting.gif

[clever path]

you need something like this

and you ll be insta invited

[fast mural]

real answer is that you are a warrior

[fast mural]

every DH that signs up will take your place

[clever path]

[regal aurora]

As the modern day Warrior has been neglected and forgotten about by Blizzard, so too has the Warrior been neglected and forgotten about by his fellow gamers. F.

[sly sky]

I have enhance and warrior with similar ilvl, it's a struggle on warrior everytime. Granted the warrior has lower rating eventhough they are linked on io

[next canopy]

Remember when S2 won and all the S3ers ran off with their tail between their legs.

[south kayak]

I don't

[red berry]

no

[fast mural]

S3 ers just have recency byass

[next canopy]

And memory issues

[vagrant dagger]

i voted for s3 just because i realized i want to play anger management and not the s2

[fast mural]

what?

s3 doesnt have anger management

[south kayak]

[vagrant dagger]

yes

but the mechanic is better

[regal aurora]

Let him cook

[south kayak]

This post doesn't make any snese

[next canopy]

Standard S3 voter

[fast mural]

"i want to play anger management and not the s2"

[clever path]

s3 pvp buff btw

[vagrant dagger]

yes, the only reason I wanted to vote for s2 is because it played anger management and not for the tier bonuses

[south kayak]

why are they buffing talents no one plays

[fast mural]

warrior dev needed to proof he is worth his paycheck

[clever path]

i dont blame him

i do my job same way

[desert cloud]

who tf uses this

this season

[next canopy]

Do you talent into DN? @vagrant dagger

[clever path]

apparantly pvpers

[desert cloud]

it doesn't even make sense

[south kayak]

make AM

[desert cloud]

aren't they using tier set

[south kayak]

1 sec per 1 rage

cowards

[vagrant dagger]

:^)

[next canopy]

😃

[vagrant dagger]

that looks comfy

my hand didnt hurt in a while also

[clever path]

🗑️

[woven token]

stupid question can i use 2 shadowflames emblishments and allied wrist that give ver x5

[unreal onyx]

no

[oblique trail]

No

[woven token]

oh 😒

[oblique trail]

Only 2x Shadowflame or 1x Shadow + Allied

[north geyser]

since vault loot is determined by what bosses you killed, has anyone minmaxed which 7/9 to kill to get the best chance at augury?

[woven token]

thanks

[oblique trail]

If you kill Fyrakk you unlock all bosses loot

[north geyser]

oh damn ok then :<

[oblique trail]

And you can't just selectively pick which bosses to kill. Once you've killed them once, you'll always have their options in the vault

[north geyser]

oh ok then so just full clear then I guess

[oblique trail]

Yes since you'll get lesser embers anyway from it

Unless you already have lego then it's just to fill up the vault

[clever path]

anyone got a SR WA for this season?

[warm crag]

ive had 2 lesser embers (misinformation)

[oblique trail]

Your very being is lesser as we speak

[warm crag]

i remind you of the indestructible bomb

[oblique trail]

But I'm even lesser since I do not have the orange weapon of +5% increase

[sinful spoke]

anyone elses details broken

[warm crag]

silence i will unleash the rage of fyr'alath to charge towards you and swing repeatedly, dealing 542,107 shadowflame damage over 3 sec to all who stand in my way (you)

[oblique trail]

I will simply strafe to the side

[warm crag]

damn it

[sinful spoke]

https://wago.io/tDT26wrXg/26

[warm crag]

i have no idea how the cone actually works im pretty sure the channel went through me getting polymorphed in ataldazar

little raptor swinging fyralath

[oblique trail]

Incredibly powerful raptor

How did it acquire Fyralath? Nobody knows

[warm crag]

it has slain fyrakk after picking up a seed in the final moments

[nocturne dragon]

are we even exist in blizz's radar?

[summer quail]

Unless you die im pretty sure nothing stops the leggo. I used it on nymue and got stunned

[soft otter]

Any sick mogs for double Fyr'alath?

[clever path]

nop

[past pivot]

#transmog

[south kayak]

🪓

A bit cooler

[eternal sundial]

mismatched ass offhand

[south kayak]

my weapon is purple, idk why the offhand isn't

guess i have to change it in transmog specifically

[sinful spoke]

taking dhs over fury warriors

smh

[south kayak]

yeah bad dhs

[wind token]

we must all do our part to make fury look good

[sinful spoke]

so

all of them

fotm rerollers

[eternal sundial]

[clever path]

we love spell reflect

[sinful spoke]

mind bender

[clever path]

yep thats what mine was on lol

seeing people with mark of fyralath

[still swift]

ur not a priest.

[clever path]

on meters

makes me cri

[marsh venture]

just loot it 🙂

[clever path]

next week

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-black-man-staring-black-men-staring-black-men-men-staring-gif-25096788

[south kayak]

I'm disowning that outlaw

[clever path]

hes actaully a god rogue

[summer quail]

is he just low ilvl

[clever path]

no i just fucked that boss with spell refelct

he did die at the end tho

[summer quail]

oh kek, i didn't look at the numbers. just dps, i thought this was overall

[clever path]

no this is one boss fight lol

he fuckin kills me in overall

i think on this throne he did 287 and i had 269

[south kayak]

I don't know if rogue is that good on last boss ad tho

warrior can delete ads with of

• SR

rogue can't do anything except st

[clever path]

wrong

so so wrong

[marsh venture]

BF perma cleaves the ads

[eternal sundial]

rogue is rogue

thus its better than fury

[clever path]

@meager gyro

they talking about SMF warrior

[halcyon sequoia]

Retri gets buffed next week like they would actually need it 😄 my duo mate is a 488 Retri, im a 486 Fury and his dungeon slice is alrdy like 15% higher than mine - not mentioning big aoe pulls (uncapped aoe yeah ik) - but why the f does retribution need a buff? What about us? And why doesn't the legendary feel legendary like Shadowmourne felt in 3.3.5a? The active is a dmg KEEP, not a increase, not even mentioning the tight activation windows related to its 3 second hard-self-cc

[south kayak]

funny haste

needs more

[clever path]

dps loss is real

[summer quail]

they buff because of raid. ret not very good in raid and we're pretty solid there

[halcyon sequoia]

yes i agree, what about specifically buffing our 5 target cleave? thats where we shine, buff that like 10% and we dont get outclassed by retris/outlaws in those

not even speaking about BMs

and it would make us less CD dependant

[crimson pebble]

How many % upgrade is lego generally for m+ compared to 489?

[halcyon sequoia]

4% :3

[past pivot]

More than that

[oblique trail]

It's not 4% lol

[halcyon sequoia]

was it? i may be wrong

[sinful spoke]

Its at leasr 10%

[oblique trail]

Even on ST it's more than 4%

[halcyon sequoia]

lemme check i should have old weapon (489 went offhand)

[past pivot]

Like 5% to St and 8-10% for MT iirc

[halcyon sequoia]

gonna login and do a quick sim