also my guild wants me to odyn on the 50
#fury
naive summit
hard widget
Is heavily dependent on comp
naive summit
how many casts would i be able to get off there?
hard widget
also my guild wants me to odyn on the 50
52 sec u send ur avatar roar etc
naive summit
ah so u hold avatar the whole time?
oblique trail
yes
hard widget
Yes
summer quail
you can maybe go first WW talent then take ashen or massacre
modest condor
you can OF on pull, first set, and if your guild is slow at killing 2nd set you can use it on those near the end
hold avatar and roar for the second set
hard widget
U send of on pull, first set of roots then on cd for p1
naive summit
can u guys give me ur log so i can see the cast times
oblique trail
I would if I had killed him
hard widget
can u guys give me ur log so i can see the cast times
Just copy top logs
hard widget
They all use the same cd timings
naive summit
ah bet
summer quail
i'm on smoldy xD
naive summit
even if they run whirlwind it dont matter?
hard widget
WW is the correct play
oblique trail
WW does not dictate your CD usage
naive summit
my guild wants me to do single target
hard widget
Unless u have insane inbuild aoe
We dont lose a lot for running ww talents over execute talents
Generally thats why its easier for warriors to talent into
And why they make other classes st over warrior
naive summit
ah true true
olive wraith
Perks of being fury
hard widget
If you however get forced to play st because u got like 10 havocs or something then sure
oblique trail
like 2% dps or something
hard widget
^
young swan
my guild wants me to do single target
theres no reason to play ST as warrior because ur still committing cd's to the roots anyways
the gain for aj and massacre is probably abysmal on that fight
hard widget
If your guild wants you to run full st on that fight they're lowkey trolling
young swan
not worth considering
covert blaze
at around what kill timer does a signet brand overtake might/other trinkets? assuming same ilvl and single target
oblique trail
You can sim it
hard widget
at around what kill timer does a signet brand overtake might/other trinkets? ass...
3 min i believe
naive summit
kk
young swan
at around what kill timer does a signet brand overtake might/other trinkets? ass...
its like 4m or some shit
oblique trail
I generally just use brand on anything 4 min or above
covert blaze
yeah i was thinking 4 too
oblique trail
(I use it on all fights because I'm lazy however)
hard widget
Been a while
oblique trail
Just highroll RNG and get it to 15 stacks at 2 min
covert blaze
Just highroll RNG and get it to 15 stacks at 2 min
true
slow haven
are we using 2x wafting echant for our weps now instead of 1x sophic and 1x wafting?
slow haven
gotcha
hard widget
While ur at it... Start a sim with Great Cerulean Seafood
Its like 600 dps increase for a lot of people
Weirdly enough
modest condor
not that weird
pallid barn
That’s wild
young swan
is that the mastery food?
modest condor
if you look at pure amount of stats it's a lot more than the mainstat food
covert blaze
vers mast
hard widget
is that the mastery food?
Vers mastery
covert blaze
yeah double secondaries food is goated
pallid barn
Something weirder, when I summed aoe, my gore crusted butchers block trinket dimmed highest
young swan
yeah crit is pretty good in aoe
past pivot
Simming aoe lol
summer quail
not that weird, crit is good in aoe
pallid barn
Yeah I have low, but that’s how sims want it
modest condor
you dont need low crit for butchers block to sim good on aoe
it was still one of my best simming trinkets on aoe at 36% crit
hard widget
The thing is with that trinket is that its a random proc. I very much dislike randomness into my build since its rng if it procs in your major cd's. Since we do very little outside of it and usually you want most dmg during your burst its unreliable. Therefore i think its worse.
brittle crow
i just added 4 gems to my gear lmao.
pallid barn
Off the top of my head stats are 20-29-62-30
hard widget
The thing is with that trinket is that its a random proc. I very much dislike ra...
Very similar to why i dislike the crab trinket
brittle crow
if the best gem is mastery/crit and 2nd best is mastery/vers s hould i just go mastery/vers
brittle crow
rounding errors worth of dps + more vers = stonks?
young swan
not to say there arent better options tho
hard widget
crab has like 40% uptime tho
But its uncontrollable, meaning there is a likelyhood of procs outside of cd's or on 1 final mob etc rendering that proc pretty useless
young swan
cause there definitely are
oblique trail
Mast/vers is typically just the defacto gem setups
summer quail
if the best gem is mastery/crit and 2nd best is mastery/vers s hould i just go m...
within margin, so ye just go mast/vers
brittle crow
also what are belt enchants
oblique trail
However I've had mast/crit outsim mast/vers by like 300 dps at one point
Belt clasp
it's just extra stamina
hard widget
also what are belt enchants
Shadowed clasp or something
pallid barn
For the price of the belt enchant it should be more stamina
oblique trail
Blizz doesn't decide the price
brittle crow
thats so expensive for 106 stam wtf
oblique trail
But yeah it's not major
brittle crow
not doin it
hard widget
thats so expensive for 106 stam wtf
It gets used to survive highest lvl keys / raid so yea that comes at a price
oblique trail
If you're really down bad for gold then yeah
pallid barn
If the belt enchant is too much then I’m worried when you get leggo drop
ember apex
tindral proggers, question. im in group 1 for feather. for platform 1 & 2. ideally i'd be in group 2 for platform 2 for CD timings at 2min43sec. but i cant do that if im getting first feather.
do i demand to be moved or...?
brittle crow
im saving all my gold for lego drop xd
man what happens in the fated season? will we have to buy lego all over again?
😭
oblique trail
You'll presumably just be able to get a token to upgrade it
hard widget
tindral proggers, question. im in group 1 for feather. for platform 1 & 2. ideal...
U should be group 2
oblique trail
Like Hunters could back in Shadowlands
brittle crow
oh phew
pallid barn
No, if it’s anything like shadowlands we will get to upgrade jt
brittle crow
gonna pug fyrakk tomorrow so i hope i get
young swan
tindral proggers, question. im in group 1 for feather. for platform 1 & 2. ideal...
definitely just ask to get moved
pallid barn
Thanks again banezi
oblique trail
definitely just ask to get moved
What if you're 2 warriors in your raid and one is in group 1 and the other in group 2 🐀
hard widget
What if you're 2 warriors in your raid and one is in group 1 and the other in gr...
They should both be in group 2
But just dont run 2 warriors kekw
hard widget
Warriors aint THAT bueno for tindral
young swan
warrior isnt a very important class for tindral
it just does big numbers
but its not best at roots and its not anywhere close on boss damage
left perch
which fights is warrior important for
hard widget
None
left perch
hard widget
Maybe igera
young swan
100% fyrakk
hard widget
There is way better classes
left perch
oh, fire birb could see
young swan
warrior is insane for fyrakk
left perch
was included in rwf
hard widget
I mean smoldy Xan
young swan
oh
balmy shore
igira SPEARS
oblique trail
Wouldn't say warrior is super important for any fight but generally we're just really good in this raid
hard widget
Igera i'd say is the only fight a warrior is really good at and definitely ur go to
balmy shore
igira could be an end boss if u think about it
hard widget
Other fights its whatever, just raid buff and rally
summer quail
i mean warrior is pretty good on smolderon, it's just not comparable to sub
oblique trail
no rework pov
oblique trail
yes
hard widget
In raid or m+?
left perch
no tuning in sight
oblique trail
They've been tuned
left perch
In raid or m+?
yes
oblique trail
But they're still strong in both
left perch
oh they did get tuned?
hard widget
In M+ they get taken less and less because of survivability
left perch
Aug got over tuned, unforch
hard widget
At the top end that is
left perch
but wcyd
hard widget
Yep ur right
ember apex
definitely just ask to get moved
ty
hard widget
oh i guess druid too
Druid needs a priest or monk to babysit him tho to not die
young swan
curious...
hard widget
Otherwise they just fall over
limber sleet
thoughts on this root damage on tindral 🙂
hard widget
All i see is ethical funnel
gilded pawn
good thing dh and rogues are good
slow haven
simming stat weights on patchwerk or dungeon slice for stats?
twilit pumice
None
slow haven
ah
twilit pumice
Stat weight bad
slow haven
guessing always use top gear
oblique trail
Use top gear, droptimiser or gear compare
slow haven
sounds good
hard widget
Stat weight changes after every piece of gear you swap, making it less reliable. However you can use a droptimizer or just sim pieces against eachother in gear compare. You can use it. But know what ur doing
oblique trail
Top gear for what you have/recrafts of crafted gear, the 2 latter for upgrades
young swan
the boys
slow haven
ty! for explaining !
clever path
sonic badge
doesnt odyns fury apply 4 whirlwind stacks every time?
oblique trail
Only if you have titanic rage talented
young swan
only with titanic rage
clever path
doesnt odyns fury apply 4 whirlwind stacks every time?
If you’d spec titanic rage yeah
sonic badge
thx
hallow sphinx
<@204367291767324672> real girl?
wanton mirage
what is that weakaura ?
wanton mirage
from which pack?
hard widget
Thats a lie, its a tetris minigame to keep you busy during downtime in intermission!
compact knot
Stat weight bad
wrong
clever path
Left one shows the middle, 1st and 2nd ring are safe
What is that profile pic
Is it some anime or just some cool art
compact knot
looks like art to me
oblique trail
Game and art of the game
worn sierra
(Cuz i didnt play back in shadowlands)
Quick q re: fated raids
Are they the same ilvl as the last raid tier (s3/now) or is it higher ilvl across the board?
oblique trail
It's a new ilvl higher than season 3, and all 3 raids will be the same
balmy shore
they added affixes last time but i don’t think we know what they are or if they’re doing it this upcoming one
they also rotated the raids iirc
worn sierra
Crap so our leggos will be pointless in s4 huh… 😂
oblique trail
You'll likely get an upgrade token for it in S4
worn sierra
Looking at the echo of neltharion sword
young swan
@balmy shore are u free from tindris
balmy shore
<@80717720873603072> are u free from tindris
no :( 5.5%
oblique trail
But yeah you'll probably use Ashkandur + Lego in S4
young swan
noooo
balmy shore
very upsetting end to the night
balmy shore
young swan
ur gonna see a couple low percent wipes probably
balmy shore
ya i think it dies on tuesday
young swan
balmy shore
we only raid 2x so i’m like let us just get to fyrakk already xd
young swan
yeah i can imagine
worn sierra
You’ll get the clear!
young swan
bosses cant die fast enough in 2 day guilds
young swan
fire beam deaths...
oblique trail
anyone with vods or w/e of the new tindie
balmy shore
yea p1
oblique trail
haven't seen it yet
young swan
:3
sudden tusk
:3
oblique trail
next week surely
balmy shore
i think i have a clip
hardy cargo
balmy shore
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantPrettiestTaroBrainSlug-BBEP4Pjz_9XHl3ml someone clipped my stream on tues
oblique trail
pog ty
balmy shore
ya
oblique trail
hoped it was the one at 50
oblique trail
the 1st bomb fire beam hasn't really been an issue for us
balmy shore
oh really?
balmy shore
which one, the one after?
oblique trail
ig I should also think about the fact that no fire beam at 1st roots means less to dodge at 2nd roots
spiral oasis
whats uhhhh decent looking damage for a +23 eb this week..
oblique trail
Idk 300k+
balmy shore
kind of tough to say bc m+ pulls have so much variance lol
spiral oasis
oblique trail
I've reliably been able to always do 300k+ in any week in EB but yeah
spiral oasis
pugs r rough
oblique trail
Bolstering especially heavily influence your pulls this week in EB especially
because cringe flowers give bolstering
clever path
lol
First pull on eber, pull right side , pull flowers up front - bolster the fuck out of Berserker
Rofl all over because of funny berserker anims and how it one shots everybody 
DH felt rushed after that into Gnarlroot
Leaves
north edge
WM this week feels like hell
fringe flame
I'm glad Throne is so straight forward. i don't have to know what a route is when I tank that place.
north edge
fucking 2nd boss thorns still has too much health
if it picks me and my teammates are a Outlaw rogue and ret
and ret dont have wings
north edge
its like the 4th or 5th thorns
outta shit to use
the thing does too much damage
whys it ticking for 280k a sec
gonna need to farm a fucken pvp trinket
clever path
whys it ticking for 280k a sec
And then tank decides to drop stacks 
While u still in thorns
💀
clever path
Hunter got fucked yesterday on 25, he thought he smart , goes turtle
Doesn’t work anymore
Fucking dies
north edge
the play is to get a mage and a lock
get to the 2nd boss, have the mage drop a port
have the lock drop a summoning stone
summon yourself, port out, equip pvp trinket, and take summon back lmao
clever path
thats some next level tech
hard widget
Or you safe dungeon port, and swap to a regular trinket after the 2nd boss
Saves a lot of hassle xd
olive wraith
Or be a human
tidal abyss
how can i sim food/runes/phial?
clever path
how can i sim food/runes/phial?
Scroll down
There are options for buffs you have available
covert blaze
bruh i got all the wracking pains on me, i was doing 5.5m spell reflect damage and the healer stepped on a spider with no brez class 
clever path
bruh i got all the wracking pains on me, i was doing 5.5m spell reflect damage a...
Deplete ?
clever path
Rip brotherman
fleet cargo
guyssss
how can i show permanently party frames(raid style)
i mean when im out of party it will only show me , so it will be still shown
covert blaze
no idea then
covert blaze
ask in #ui-addons-manager
hard widget
Maybe Shadowed Unit Frames?
Although fair warning, that has for multiple users caused fps to be lower
fleet cargo
ok will do it afterr dung
oblique trail
These glasses are easily the best addition of 10.2.5 😎
sullen dove
oblique trail
sigil of chains*
south kayak
Is that a talent?
oblique trail
yes
snow edge
Holy glasses
celest nimbus
Hey chat is there a place where i can check the raid build for fury? Single target not aoe cause i'm guessing that the same as m+
oblique trail
warcraftlogs or wowhead
south kayak
These glasses are easily the best addition of 10.2.5 😎
It's a vengenace talent?
not class
right
oblique trail
It is yes
snow edge
Where are these glasses from 
oblique trail
Hey chat is there a place where i can check the raid build for fury? Single targ...
Is the standard full ST raid build. You'd use this Volcoross, Nymue and Smolderon. Any other fights, you'd swap the Execute talents for WW talents, and Spear over to Roar
oblique trail
Where are these glasses from <:Target:668436712573370382>
Fish them up in Gilneas
Took me like 80 casts or something
Don't need to have any fishing skill or do the questline
snow edge
Water washes, washing cleans, clean glasses
dapper goblet
👨🦼
celest nimbus
Is the standard full ST raid build. You'd use this Volcoross, Nymue and Smoldero...
Thanks
violet condor
do you guys think its possible to have 1 million health as fury this tier? like in full 489 gear and legendary?
anyone know?
oblique trail
Without buffs? No
dark elbow
do you guys think its possible to have 1 million health as fury this tier? like ...
Easy
oblique trail
I'm in almost full 489 gear, although no lego and only 483 offhand
dark elbow
Stamina gems
oblique trail
But I have 977k with Endurance Training
violet condor
legendary will probably put u at 985k
dark elbow
Fill all gemslots with stamina or get that tank trinket that gives stamina instead of main stat
oblique trail
red yew
🥺
oblique trail
You not using whirling surge gave me anxiety
sullen dove
i liked the little hop b4 mounting
slim coral
https://clips.twitch.tv/AverageCoweringEggnogPoooound-pRyJYLTHbfj8-dPo
vibes dont sound too good
oof
sullen dove
we are big vibers
sullen dove
well idk if anyone actually saw really how that happened
i posted clip in guild disc and one guy was pogging
so that was 
tbh yea idk why i didnt whirling surge and i also just hopped b4 mounting lol
cut that shit as close as possible
red yew
You not using whirling surge gave me anxiety
Dude saaaame Whirling Surge is so powerful!!!!
sullen dove
its kinda cringe now being in second group using it for flare bomb and it not being up for intermiss
just kinda started regular flapping for bomb
feels almost more important in intermiss if it still reliably does the "doesnt spend vigor" thing
oblique trail
Dude saaaame Whirling Surge is so powerful!!!!
I will whirling surge into the nearest fire beam on next prog night and hope the pain my character feels will be reciprocated to my real life self
red yew
LMFAO
edgy widget
https://clips.twitch.tv/AverageCoweringEggnogPoooound-pRyJYLTHbfj8-dPo
that was super clutch, nice job
sullen dove
edgy widget
I've had the weirdest shit happen on that boss
stark zealot
its kinda cringe now being in second group using it for flare bomb and it not be...
idk even without whirling surge there I get to next platform early consistently
fervent bough
my fav part about the fight is when like half the raids computers freeze on the 2nd set of roots in P1 and they get murdered by beams
sullen dove
idk even without whirling surge there I get to next platform early consistently
yea its not like its required to do intermiss it just feels a little too much to use for just a bomb assuming u get feather as soon as it spawns and you just zip up
saving the extra 3 vigor and just being full speed instantly for intermiss feels a bit better typically get to platform b4 boss
edgy widget
actually here's a better clip
sullen dove
o not on that boss but thats sometimes happened to me just like in open world
edgy widget
leap animation cancelled my mount, so it looked like I was mounted but I wasn't yet
oblique trail
Should've gotten another friend to help you
stark zealot
yea its not like its required to do intermiss it just feels a little too much to...
If I don't whirlwing surge the bomb I feel like I don't get down fast enough to do damage to roots lol
I get east bomb
edgy widget
No shot they do me like this
ain't gonna get no sympathy here, you legendary havin sumbitch
slim coral
leap animation cancelled my mount, so it looked like I was mounted but I wasn't ...
yeah I cancelled mine quiet often when I was learning the fight by accident lmao
sullen dove
eh i mean for the most part those roots are just gone not much meaningful damage to do to them
frail trout
Should've gotten another friend to help you
My whole guild is just raid logging fucks I guess
edgy widget
I don't normally cut leap that late
slim coral
I also flew up by accident when I landed intermission
frail trout
I even offered gold
oblique trail
Tbf I would also raid log at this point
frail trout
For people to do a singular superbloom with me
edgy widget
I've been raid logging for 2 months lol
frail trout
Crickets
sullen dove
ya its like, 600 dps for the best possible non-496 augury for an item out of m+
at 489
and mythic augury is 1k
and then im just 
till legendary
frail trout
Augury is even better on multi though right?
slim coral
having 2 macros on fyrakk is so cringe
frail trout
My guild is at the Tindral wall, dark times ahead
oblique trail
The so called wall should be a lot smaller now
frail trout
Although seeds are hilariously easy now
clever path
tindral is kindergarden now no?
slim coral
yeah
clever path
i dont raid mythic but there were nerfs and heard ppl say its ez now?
slim coral
once you learn it
oblique trail
Well
slim coral
like we had it at 15 percent 800 pulls
oblique trail
A lot of people who say it's ez are probably also in the highest end of WRs
slim coral
after nerfs we killed it in 10 pulls
oblique trail
Who progged and killed it before nerfs
So to them it's a lot easier
It's still a difficult fight
clever path
A lot of people who say it's ez are probably also in the highest end of WRs
what is wr?
oblique trail
World rank
frail trout
We just started prog basically
slim coral
world rank
stark zealot
We took a break last week because we knew nerfs were coming lol
frail trout
But seeds are already very easy, it's other stuff that people are still slipping on
Dispells namely
And sometimes mushrooms
oblique trail
We didn't take a break but instead just recleared and had 1 night of pre-nerf prog
It still helps since there are things you can't wait for nerfs for
clever path
i am in rank none, but just heard a friend who does raid say that they are on fyrrak after the reset
oblique trail
Like flying, doing the roots into dodges
clever path
and a week prior they haave been doing tindral every day
oblique trail
Dispelling properly and placement
slim coral
Yes tindral went from a 10 to a 7
Unless you're us top 50 below
then it's like a 5 now
frail trout
I could only imagine that even reclear of last 2 was tedious before the nerfs
frail trout
slim coral
just isn't worth the time
when you can kill 7 get 3 slot vault
just like aberrus where you woud skip 2
clever path
how was abber mythic anyway?
slim coral
Pretty easy
clever path
i would bet neltharions echo was balls no?
fervent bough
that fight broke my guild
frail trout
Heart of neltharion was kinda dumb
oblique trail
Tindral is one of the hardest fights in a long while now
slim coral
The last 2 bosses alone are the 2 hardest bosses they ahve designed
covert blaze
like we had it at 15 percent 800 pulls
💀
clever path
and where the difficulty stems from ? boss mechanics or ?
oblique trail
Tindral has a lot of things happening at once
With very little room for error
And a lot that can insta wipe you
slim coral
the amount of one shots is just too high
one perons dies or messed up its gg
just like halondrus
or anduin
flat sapphire
On tindral if 1 mess up its a wipe on mythic?
nova garnet
@oblique trail banezi doesn't change pfp for a week challenge
slim coral
On tindral if 1 mess up its a wipe on mythic?
yes
oblique trail
On tindral if 1 mess up its a wipe on mythic?
Depends on the mechanic but basically yes
oblique trail
<@102464908976730112> banezi doesn't change pfp for a week challenge
I try not to
slim coral
especialyl pre nerfs
dapper goblet
tindral mythic is easier than tindral heroic now
sullen dove
tindral mythic is easier than tindral heroic now
oblique trail
Yeah hf on Tindie then
flat sapphire
On igira
sullen dove
yea i saw vil die
dapper goblet
too much hp
flat sapphire
It took us 3 raid days to be able to stack spears correct ish
nova garnet
yea i saw vil die
Boss doesn't like weebs
sullen dove
tru
dapper goblet
uhh i think healers just press healing spells instantly
when the healer mechanic happens
sullen dove
just cloak
vague copper
Those fuckers might be the worst shit in game atm (on alts)..
slim coral
igira might be the hardest boss in the raid now
won't be that way until fyrakk is nerfed
take this trash macro shit away
vague copper
You kinda dont run content that give Wyrms
cosmic lance
Yeah the lower crests are a rare find at this point, people aren't running lower content this late
End up doing some demon pug runs
slim coral
yeah but it's cringe
vague copper
And there is some time b4 you get em for beeing caped ><
vague copper
When you still need aspects
sullen dove
cant use aspects if u need to use wyrms on the items first
its a little cringe but prolly better than running 11s
unless u can get your guy into heroic raids help that out a bit
sullen dove
vague copper
Just as I said that I got an invite.. Lets go!
slim coral
hidden auras or w/e are cringe i agree
idk how they nerf fyrakk the only hard parts is p3 and learning the macros
as a raid anyways
slim coral
well they killed jailor so we'll see what they do to fyrakk
south kayak
Isn't he dead
slim coral
I'm talking about nerfs
south kayak
lmao ok
dapper goblet
first nerf they'll do is probably make seeds not blow up to a certain mechanic but that would be a very cringe change
still wave
Tbf they gutted tindral aswell, ain’t nothing stopping them (tswift isn’t last boss but still)
sullen dove
think blaze wouldve been way funnier if it was a cross instead of a line in mythic
eternal sundial
Good idea
still swift
Why is WoW like this. Bricked my 26 throne and it turns into 25 EB
should have left instead of finishing
cosmic lance
should have left instead of finishing
We would've been in time but tank mistook which pack we were meant to skip and pulled it in the gauntlet
frigid zealot
first nerf they'll do is probably make seeds not blow up to a certain mechanic b...
Make only half the seeds in p3 turn into fire ones
Or make them not one shot but still fucking hurt
Like hc week 1
dapper goblet
there was some post i forget where talking about the 1shots and mechanics of this raid and i'm just like...play better idk
frigid zealot
Yeh but not everyone is able to do thay
dapper goblet
you still need to have mechanics be punishing in mythic
frigid zealot
Given it requires like what at end of fight 8 players of pure perfection
dapper goblet
especially on last ~2 bosses
cosmic lance
It's a pretty common complaint when 1 person's mistake kills everyone instead of just themselves
frigid zealot
Only reason why tendrils was so hard for most guilds
dapper goblet
i mean i think seeds on tindral being a raid wipe if 1 goes off is very stupid
frigid zealot
Is because it had way to many one shots
dapper goblet
like that mechanic was bad
but i think seeds on fyrakk blowing up and wiping is fine
frigid zealot
Seeds not being soaked. Hit by beam. Fucking up flying
Soaking 2 seeds
Was a bit overkill with perfection. Seed timer even extended from like 2 seconds to soak to 5 now too?
cosmic lance
I think removing the double soak is fair, or it should've just murdered the person that double soaked rather than wiping your raid
frigid zealot
Had to soak 16 seeds too
Of one personal mistake made it hader
Also dispels can't overlap
Fyrak has less one shots overall
Just the one shots are ramping difficulty sub 35
And boss is just a control dps fight
dapper goblet
the boss the way it was released was def overtuned
frigid zealot
Would likely say fyrak difficulty curve is fine. But tendril was just more annoying
dapper goblet
even when we killed it the only nerf was fire shield aoe dam and then 5 sec to soak
frigid zealot
Tbh more guilds probs gonna struggle with tind than fyr
frigid zealot
Like even in full cds they fucking hurt
Same time don't feel their too op. I've not send halfway into p3 so not sure if they are more cringe or not
But p1 beams are tame with the one removed now
clever belfry
Tbh more guilds probs gonna struggle with tind than fyr
now? Absolutely not
Intermission on fyrakk wastes a full night fixing WAs
p3 is just pass fail
clever belfry
tbh its only really p1 that hurts
p3 only hurts if monkis pick seeds up slowly
(spatial giga carries the roars cause u have ur monk or disc just blast the gang
red yew
clever path
how does aug evoer do damage anyway?
arent they just, buff machines? how come on logs in shows them doing over bajillion dps
clever belfry
aug evoker speaking
my aug is benched
clever belfry
arent they just, buff machines? how come on logs in shows them doing over bajill...
so true king so true
wild mural
clever path
According to the pins, do we just not use Rage of Fyralath on smaller packs if we have CDs?
wild mural
CDs> leggo
Use it basically if you have nothing else
Or if you’re dumb like me on first roots tindral press of then leggo
clever path
Use it basically if you have nothing else
and that goes for mythic+ too?
clever belfry
yes
the best usage is when there's smol mobs around a big mob
and u send it right before smallies die to basically funnel the channel dmg onto big man
cyan turtle
Today we start again brothers. Time to do all the story quests ive missed...
cyan turtle
yea i took a break when season 2 started
still swift
came back 2 weeks ago
sorry to hear
autumn mica
Breaks are good indeed. I do it every month for a week or so
Have to prevent burnout from the game
autumn mica
According to the pins, do we just not use Rage of Fyralath on smaller packs if w...
Yeah but not during recklessness / bloodbath stacks etc. Mostly as filler. It's important to remember its split damage so most value comes on single target. Or if u could pull a pack with boss, position yourself away from adds and yeet all stacks off the adds to do a big hit on boss
cold cave
so branch worth getting?
plucky ice
doesn't seem so
lean wasp
I miss shadowlands legendaries and covenant abilities
oblique trail
bad bait warrior had no good ones
lean wasp
I was checking them out the other day they seemed way better than crafted gear
Crafted gear are basically the shards of domination from SoD except you just pay for it with gold
fickle bone
ey, anyone knows how to solve platter wa on Tyndral adds not working? My frames dont let me zug
hardy bluff
ey, anyone knows how to solve platter wa on Tyndral adds not working? My frames ...
works fine on my plater
if you lag try disabling damage numbers
vocal fog
what trinket to use for M trindal
fading sky
I was checking them out the other day they seemed way better than crafted gear
i mean we didnt have talent points so they made "legendaries" instead
but ye some borrowed power is fun while it lasts
but also feels very bad going into next expansion when u loose em
ornate gust
Is there an addon or WA that shows the available in the new zone?
clever path
Is there an addon or WA that shows the available in the new zone?
available what?
ornate gust
exist or live rares
clever path
rarescanner
ornate gust
I am farming my leggo
ornate gust
rarescanner
I will check it. Thanks
ornate turtle
is raidbots not working for anyone else?
final delta
I am farming my leggo
you can just farm frenzy rare btw.
ornate gust
you can just farm frenzy rare btw.
How?
final delta
How?
get raid gep, kill many mobs in frenzy and the rare will spawn more often, u can get up to 12 coils per frenzy
ornate gust
thanks ❤️
pulsar turtle
Hey! Is a 489 necklace thats a 1.5k dps loss worth the stamina of 6 ivls in m+? i have a 483 currently
final delta
also, i don't know if this is known, but don't give the tattered dreamleaf quest to a cross faction buddy, you won't get a buff/stack from cross faction players
red yew
Hey! Is a 489 necklace thats a 1.5k dps loss worth the stamina of 6 ivls in m+? ...
In an m+ sim or ST sim? Doubt it'd be worth since neck is kinda low budget piece and 6 ilvls is not a lot of stamina
pulsar turtle
ST sim
fading sky
never
always take dmg
anyways this week is deffo dead when u cant deal with affliced
cant get into any key ( rio key that is )
24-25++
lean wasp
i mean we didnt have talent points so they made "legendaries" instead
some of them were soul bind stuff some of them were legos but there was some unique legos
fading sky
but you only played the ones thats made into talent points no 😄
?
i miss ancient aftershock ngl but apart from that
i mean i loved the whole concept of the 4 different factions and gettin power there, but Borrowed power is something ppl fuckin hate ( i always loved it) but app in gen ppl hated it
fading sky
i dno i liked the stories
as soon as they made it possible to just switch
it was good
terse ether
so anyone knows why after new patch some herbs are glowing on map?
oh nvm, I figure out why... the glowing ones are the rares
lean wasp
i mean i loved the whole concept of the 4 different factions and gettin power th...
everyone loves it, its basically the same thing as tier sets and gear but over the entire expansion. the people who complained are the same people who killed torghast before it became the next great thing in wow, the loud minority of casuals who wants all the loot but none of the work. DF so far has been nothing but raids and m+ nothing else to do or grind which get boring
lean wasp
not to mention lazy crafted gear design, discarded the whole seasonal affix just cuz of one bad season.
subtle lagoon
I'd rather have a seasonal affix instead of the two absolute piles of shit we got
restive peak
Ye this week is dogwater, barring a few lucky key drops we're sittin the week now, and it's sad
The 2 new affixes are garbo
frigid zealot
https://tenor.com/view/discord-turn-down-gif-22110262
lean wasp
I'd rather have a seasonal affix instead of the two absolute piles of shit we go...
the 2 shit affix are to replace the old shittier affixes like the wounds thing, tanks stacks healing thing and explosives which was shit in every pull of every season
subtle lagoon
the 2 shit affix are to replace the old shittier affixes like the wounds thing, ...
Two affixes that divide the community even more instead of thinking of affixes that can make dungeons fun or provide a challenge that anyone can contribute to.
Not saying that explosives and the others weren't ass so it's good that they got rid of them.
lean wasp
explosive wasntfun
subtle lagoon
explosive wasntfun
Never said it was.
clever belfry
More specs could deal with explo than with afflicted
lean wasp
prideful and the anima thing affixes were cool
clever belfry
still dogshit, don't get me wrong
warm crag
give me victory rush procs !!! yeahhh!!!!
clever belfry
back in Legion when they procced war machine
big dps uppie
When WM mattered...
10s bloodlust on every killing blow was biggus
clever belfry
We hate rise
warm crag
die rise die
clever path
No man, it’s a nice dungeon
warm crag
we have different definitions of nice
clever belfry
der riese?? call of duty zombies reference?
clever belfry
we have different definitions of nice
but some are straight up wrong 😔
subtle lagoon
Spending 1/3 of the dungeon in the first platform and running around the whole dungeon pogggg
clever belfry
die rise die
(i know die rise is also a map and wouldve made for a better joke)
warm crag
(both your jokes wouldve been valid and i wouldve ha had as a response either way)
glad coyote
if you this explosive is worse than afflicted id like to meet you outside
glad coyote
imma get my baseball bat
clever belfry
oh
glad coyote
how the eff do you this that
clever belfry
glad coyote
one we can deal with and afflicted we dont get invited cause we cant deal with it
almost 3.3k rating and i can't invited to 25's
cause i dont deal with affix
clever belfry
coarse epoch
Do yall never play you own keys?
robust leaf
idk this game why they made affix that there is some classes can't deal with it
what is the point of that
glad coyote
i always do my own keys but i do save them for my premade
subtle lagoon
It's so blizz devs can get invited to pugs
balmy shore
afflicted isn’t a good affix like healers already need to dispel stuff and it locks you from picking up too many classes that can’t dispel tbh
robust leaf
playing your own key what a joke bro
from 26 to 22
depletes
atal dazar last boss
glad coyote
just invited warrior and spell reflect the last boss
fast gull
do you hold recklessness to go with odyns fury or with avatar?
clever belfry
afflicted isn’t a good affix like healers already need to dispel stuff and it lo...
me telling people i wont dispell afflicted in 2nd boss area in fall on MW
(i get flamed why affix goes off)
robust leaf
@clever belfry they wanna only dps and watch you suffering
clever belfry
I mean ill let them die
robust leaf
playing heal not fun tbh
clever belfry
Cant really outheal the sands with - 100% haste
clever belfry
playing heal not fun tbh
Mw is pretty fun. mm
but ive only done 26 on it so im not too much of an expert
robust leaf
if they get avoidable dmg they will flame you anyways
even next week we can't play as warriors :p
happy week guys
enjoy
clever belfry
Is it incorp or
robust leaf
yes
glad coyote
incorp and afflicted need to go away
bring back balls of fire please
or make it a 1 big ball
that ya gotta dps down
clever belfry
balls of fire
sullen basin
Lost augury by 2, rolled a 95
Time to kms
Also that guy gave it to someone else who rolled shit for free
clever path
Do yall never play you own keys?
always man
because warrior gets no love in pugs
no accept, only some blue eyed blonde babes accept warriors into their groups
cyan turtle
sounds good to me
wild mural
Soon I get my augury
still swift
what did u guys do to banezi
wild mural
Mb I get it from mythic
glad coyote
who else is home with the kids while trying to work from home and push keys and watch the kids and shovel snow
i will be eatting 2 ny strip steaks for lunch by myself
wild mural
Nope at work with my bestie looking at memes
warm crag
the weak shall fear the stick
still swift
:smug:
warm crag
i did a whole 125k over 3 seconds (pvp scaling)
dawn pivot
how much should I sim at 486?
warm crag
230-245
dawn pivot
I hit 227..
warm crag
damn
still swift
i sim 218 at 482 in arms gear
warm crag
st talents? do you just have no trinkets?
fiery trail
245? With leggo then i guess?
warm crag
245? With leggo then i guess?
ye i think im 244 and missing some jewellery and mythic augury
restive peak
Bruh I'm down bad at 231k....
No shot @ mythic brand til we kill fyrakky, no leggo, we downbad
warm crag
just loot leggo on m fyrakk kill thoughts?
warm crag
dont sim with corrupting rage and feast probably you shouldn't be using either
you're also missing ilvl and sockets and might benefit from some different enchants
also no augury point at this person
frigid zealot
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/760863355417919508/959967559048904714/a...
Warlock Whuh
I dont play garbage ranged rolls
Melee is life
glad coyote
just loot leggo on m fyrakk kill thoughts?
welcome to the party
warm crag
its simply too easy
acoustic furnace
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ih9Fx49jpwDY454HtS7mfX
Same boat here. 485 and I've been simming around 233k with full sockets and LFR Augury. I need my Lego.
restive peak
I wish I'd hit 233 lewl, this is sad as fuck man.
Can't believe I'm gonna kill fyrakk simming 15k+ below the rest of my team lmao
warm crag
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ih9Fx49jpwDY454HtS7mfX
stop simming corrupting rage or i will eviscerate you
and change your food
restive peak
WHY WOULD I CHANGE MY FOOD SPONGIE
warm crag
feast is shit
restive peak
I HAVE A FLAVVY POCKY
acoustic furnace
So I'm not the only person getting more value from secondary stat food?
restive peak
What you runnin? Versa food?
acoustic furnace
Thought I was crazy
warm crag
dunno sim it
restive peak
I don't have leggo yet remember
warm crag
im using cerulean which is vers mast
mossy fox
secondary stat food should sim higher
restive peak
So crit phial still sims higher
mossy fox
it has simmed higher for me since aberrus
warm crag
man
its not about simming higher
if you are playing corrupting on any prog boss you are throwing so hard
restive peak
I'm alchy, the dmg is 1 BT of healing 😛
warm crag
okay and
acoustic furnace
Fair. Our raid rules literally say you can only run corrupting if you're an alchemist.
warm crag
you're gonna drop the defensive boost of versa and take the extra damage from corrupting for what reason exactly
literally none of the bosses in the raid are a dps check
restive peak
IDK SPONGIE I LIKE CRIT BRO
I do run versa anyway tbh, you're right, I'm just memeing
I forgot to swap it on sims
warm crag
whatever i have in my bags just sim it
acoustic furnace
Well no shit just sim it I have simmed it and I run Hissing I just wanted to ask others
sage rune
hissing
restive peak
Now i'm a 229k gamer SPONGIE I LOOK EVEN WORSE D:
warm crag
how awful
acoustic furnace
Sims are less important than not dying to mechanics so if you live then good on ya
restive peak
SIMS ARE LIFE
But srs I need fuckin leggo man
And just like a heroic augury would be cool
acoustic furnace
Naw I've noticed that guilds that hyper focus on sims and parses tend to do worse than guilds that focus more on mechanics. It's nice to have both of course but I'll take flawless mechanics over a high parse shitter any day.
dawn pivot
dont sim with corrupting rage and feast probably you shouldn't be using either
idk why its per default, I usualy use tepid verstality
restive peak
I mean it's a balance, parses don't mean shit but sims do matter for prog bruh lol
acoustic furnace
I never said they don't matter I'm just saying they aren't the ONLY thing that matters even though a lot of folks act like they are
restive peak
Killing the boss matters
humble plover
sim is dad
acoustic furnace
Sim means everything drops Nymue bomb in melee
I'm gonna parse so high nukes half the raid and four healing adds because he's running around with fyrakk lines to stay on boss
humble plover
this is the way
supple laurel
acoustic furnace
They're both easy
dawn pivot
why shouldnt I sim with corrupting rage?
sage rune
why shouldnt I sim with corrupting rage?
u should
past pivot
why shouldnt I sim with corrupting rage?
sim with whatever you want but do you use rage in game? Same with WF totem
restive peak
BM is definitely the most braindead spec ingame
Like it's not even comparable, BM is legit semi AFK
dawn pivot
sim with whatever you want but do you use rage in game? Same with WF totem
idk maybe I should start using it when it sims higher?
restive peak
Versa sims almost the same but provides tankiness
You run vers
100dps is like 0.00001% at this point, surviving is bis
dawn pivot
for me its -4k with tepid vers
restive peak
Then regem/enchant
sage rune
probably depends on the fight
restive peak
I can promise you that there's no shot unless you're stubbornly refusing to swap around pieces/gems that it's 4k for 1100 crit vs 750 versa
restive peak
If you have 0 crit items and are running it at 100% uptime on sim, maybe, but that's changing things to appear better
warm crag
why shouldnt I sim with corrupting rage?
if you're doing anything prog oriented you just shouldnt be using corrupting rage
dawn pivot
the problem I have is I simmed with corrupting rage all time and now my gear is adjusted to the crit, how do I go back
restive peak
You sim over and over til you figure it out, also augury is BIS and kinda needed...it's a shitton of crit+crazy dmg
dawn pivot
augury yeah seems that it also gives crit so fits perfect
restive peak
Augury is always BIS
humble plover
augury t h i c c
restive peak
I mean you need to fix that belt sitch regardless 😛
past pivot
mastery/vers is a safe bet but youc an sim that
restive peak
Luckily swapping crafted item stats is like 500g and ez, so could always do it as crit/mast or crit/vers for now, and swap once you get augury
past pivot
Crit still doesn't seem to be a big stat for my toon. Vers is the heavy one.
restive peak
This guy lacks crit pretty hard on his sim
Vers is huge with the right trinks, even bigger w leggo
eternal sundial
Crit is good
restive peak
But if you're overloaded on vers and lack crit, yaknow.
dawn pivot
now im 225k at 485
ashen socket
Real pumpers dont need to sim
past pivot
Real dummies you mean
restive peak
Big take
warm crag
Real dawgs sim custom arms fuck sd apl for 600 dps
what it do
warm crag
lol
eternal sundial
It's free dps so ye
warm crag
i think i instinctively played it like that anyways
eternal sundial
Correct
warm crag
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iRWB9Sgg38MG5t5WXDtSkU
L noob
restive peak
Right
warm crag
gimme your neck
restive peak
483 trinker havin no leggo havin lil bitch I am over here
Gimme your axe dawg
TRADEYA
eternal sundial
Nelf too
warm crag
get a grip
eternal sundial
No human for simdps
humble plover
ashen socket
Gimme your axe dawg
Real chads don't need the axe
dawn pivot
can I drop the allied wristguard when I got 489 wrist with socket? and use embelishment for the belt?
dawn pivot
sim says +2k dps but I dont trust sim anymore
restive peak
I pref versa bracers > 2nd SF
past pivot
Post the sim if you doubt it.
past pivot
I pref versa bracers > 2nd SF
Me too
restive peak
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8XbEk7omgo23oX363wAQK5 we gettin somewhere bois
warm crag
depends on your socket situation but early on it definitely was the play to craft 2nd sf on belt or feet when you dropped a super early max track socketed bracer
restive peak
It's fckin crazy that basically 3 items is 13k dps, fuck blizzard
warm crag
It's fckin crazy that basically 3 items is 13k dps, fuck blizzard
ok brother i think one of the 3 items is doing the heavy lifting
restive peak
Alright I'm off to work, be back latex.
restive peak
ok brother i think one of the 3 items is doing the heavy lifting
LISTEN SPONGIE JUST SUPPORT ME
unreal onyx
warm crag
Alright I'm off to work, be back latex.
me when i want to write a math paper
opaque bolt
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8XbEk7omgo23oX363wAQK5 we gettin somewher...
tepid is simming higher for u?