Dude we went over this yesterday
#fury
storm rune
edgy widget
probably, but not necessarily - higher ilevel gear with worse stats can still be better
past pivot
No way to know offhand
still swift
my war is at 40% haste and it still doesnt recommend me to recraft what i have to different stats despite giving it multiple combos to work with 
wanton mirage
my war is at 40% haste and it still doesnt recommend me to recraft what i have t...
What are your weapon enchants?
clever path
Okay, dumber question - where do I actually look in topgear for stat swap recommendations?
Like stuff you dont have or stuff you do have?
still swift
Okay, dumber question - where do I actually look in topgear for stat swap recomm...
you feed it the options to do so (click the + icon on crafted items and do "recraft to haste/vers" etc
dapper goblet
clever path
you feed it the options to do so (click the + icon on crafted items and do "recr...
Ah, I see I see. Thanks
fast crest
Wow really? Is there a setting that recommends against that maybe (like gem/enchant setting)? Mine usually suggests recraft away from haste and I’m only at 24%
still swift
so u end up with like several different versions of the same item it will sim through
the ones in the screen for me are haste/mast, crit/mast, crit/vers, crit/haste, and out of all those itd still want haste mast, just for example
not all iterations in it ofc but out of those 4
still swift
What are your weapon enchants?
wafting wafting
clever path
droptimizer says that i need to get these bad boys to have a huge dps increase
I had rezan's eye, but then i swapped it for Augry / moto
eternal sundial
How u simmin 205
clever path
though its ST only
eternal sundial
still swift
hes playing raging blow duh
dapper goblet
i believe because his gear is bad and or low ilvl sir
still swift
dps lossing
fast crest
my war is at 40% haste and it still doesnt recommend me to recraft what i have t...
Do you have enough haste to like fit in 9 buffed BB during CDs or something? 40% seems so high
clever path
How u simmin 205
still swift
Do you have enough haste to like fit in 9 buffed BB during CDs or something? 40...
no idea i dont play fury
covert blaze
Maybe he's using weekly
eternal sundial
i believe because his gear is bad and or low ilvl sir
Ty for your assessment Mr wonka
dapper goblet
clever path
i also have talents for aoe, because m+
fast crest
Oh lol
covert blaze
Yeah he is
still swift
i just put on my fury spec and 2nd weapon and went "sim this shit for me"
moved over to arms cuz snoozing at rampage bt rampage bt
clever path
So wait, I do have to swap my talents to ST to sim regardless if i raid or not to see the real deal?
covert blaze
So wait, I do have to swap my talents to ST to sim regardless if i raid or not t...
What
Wym
still swift
i mean if ur not using those talents no point doing it
covert blaze
i also have talents for aoe, because m+
Sim st talents
clever path
Wym
So I just import stuff from simc addon that I have while not specced into ashen juggernaut st build for raid , I just use the output while speced into m+ cleave build
still swift
if ur not raiding/using st talents as focus i dont see why youd sim with them tbh
edgy widget
So wait, I do have to swap my talents to ST to sim regardless if i raid or not t...
strictly speaking, there's a pretty small difference between ST and AOE talent setups, but you get results for what you sim
lotta raid fights aren't actually pure ST, so simming a MT build isn't necessarily inaccurate
clever path
strictly speaking, there's a pretty small difference between ST and AOE talent s...
Ah, I see - okay.
So, I presume that it also recommends me items that would be most beneficial for ST As well?
Yes
covert blaze
So, I presume that it also recommends me items that would be most beneficial for...
Yeah you're simming st
clever path
If you sim multitarget patchwerk instead of one target, you will see it recommend items and gems for AOE
Even further, priorities can change with length of fight as well
And when I sim multitarget patchwerk , I presume I need my cleave talents specced right?
1 min vs 3 min vs 5 min
plush juniper
And when I sim multitarget patchwerk , I presume I need my cleave talents specce...
Yeah use the talent spec that you would use if you knew it was an MT encounter
past pivot
Simming for MT is guesswork no matter how you do it. Luckily our dps profile is very similar between ST and MT. You can make it easy and just use your top gear recommendations and swap out your trinkets between ST and MT. And keep Augury equipped for both if you have that. Just 1 trinket to swap.
covert blaze
And when I sim multitarget patchwerk , I presume I need my cleave talents specce...
I personally would recommend just simming st, and switching trinkets that are better for aoe when you need to play aoe (might + augury/block/crab/pips)
clever path
I personally would recommend just simming st, and switching trinkets that are be...
Can't really swap gear in M+ sadly :[
covert blaze
Can't really swap gear in M+ sadly :[
Well, before they key lol
past pivot
No one is changing gems and enchants between raids and m+ anyway.
balmy shore
raidbots keeps telling me to craft a 2h weapon but little does it know that i’ll be getting the legendary next week
covert blaze
raidbots keeps telling me to craft a 2h weapon but little does it know that i’ll...
next week for sure
rotund ginkgo
doing lfr for fyrrak lego questline is insane
nocturne dragon
Speaking of raid I could use a tips as fury. Let's say for example there is some mini multitarget in raid for example Tindral, do we need to spec into multi target (talenting the whirlwind) or just let other class who has better multitarget deal with it?
rotund ginkgo
Speaking of raid I could use a tips as fury. Let's say for example there is some...
you are the class with better multi target
covert blaze
Speaking of raid I could use a tips as fury. Let's say for example there is some...
Depends if you want to pad or not
Assuming heroic
clever path
Speaking of raid I could use a tips as fury. Let's say for example there is some...
Depends on how good your group is at AOE. Sometimes you get more damage out of ST abilities because the adds die too fast anyway. I havent found this to be the case with OF since the damage is instant
covert blaze
imo always go MT if u can go MT
balmy shore
next week for sure
rotund ginkgo
u dont lose A LOT from it anyway
coarse nest
nocturne dragon
imo always go MT if u can go MT
Ah I see because the difference between ST and MT only either we talented toward execute and talented toward WW, just go talented toward WW then during tindral/gnarl?
balmy shore
yoink that damage on tindral
rotund ginkgo
Ah I see because the difference between ST and MT only either we talented toward...
during those bosses
yes
100%
covert blaze
Ah I see because the difference between ST and MT only either we talented toward...
I would just go aoe if you can aoe like radish said
rotund ginkgo
on tindral u defo nwant to go MT
heroic i dont think it matters
but on mythic
its a must
past pivot
doing lfr for fyrrak lego questline is insane
When I was getting my leggo, lfr had like 6 others also tethering those 3 bosses. Was funny to watch. People were all confused
rotund ginkgo
i almost always do highest "mt cleave" on cleave fights
or at least close to highest
@past pivot ye its funny
i stayed for volco for mog
tank lost aggro
3
times
to me
orchid iron
Is the analyzer website still worth using, it has the warning that nobody is keeping up with the spec but it’s not like Fury is all that cosmic
rotund ginkgo
was tanked in the middle as well, dead center
balmy shore
Is the analyzer website still worth using, it has the warning that nobody is kee...
not up to date
nocturne dragon
heroic i dont think it matters
Well max I do right now is heroic but still 7/9 but I will do it anyway it's a good habit, when need MT then do MT. Thx Ragish 👍
covert blaze
Is the analyzer website still worth using, it has the warning that nobody is kee...
I wouldn't use that if it's not updated
rotund ginkgo
its better to do what ur class is supposed to do by default
unless ur guild specifically asks for something else
which shouldnt happen anyway
fickle bluff
Is the analyzer website still worth using, it has the warning that nobody is kee...
its been wildly wrong for fury for years
balmy shore
it’s been touched like once in the past couple of tiers and hasn’t even gotten all of the fundamental coding established for the spec from what i saw
like not even all of the talents are in the code
coarse nest
The wow analyzer guy was in here asking about Prot a few months ago but idk if he ever finished updating for all specs
covert blaze
Well max I do right now is heroic but still 7/9 but I will do it anyway it's a g...
Only fights to not use MT in heroic at least are volc nymue and smolderon
orchid iron
its been wildly wrong for fury for years
Haven’t played since SL season 1 so that sounds about right 😅
balmy shore
they should take a look
i took one peek and was like oh no but also i don’t code but my bf was showing me what about it hasn’t been updated lmaoo
clever belfry
average aug mentality
big fire axe dragon is dead
->
empower dragon on my acc now dead
😎
balmy shore
are u free
covert blaze
You kill fyrakk Ander?
clever belfry
balmy shore
pog
covert blaze
coarse nest
Pumper
clever belfry
other augs just bad at the game wcyd
fast mural
is the parse locked in already ?
clever belfry
yes
clever belfry
u know deva is cheating on this fight
clever path
in the big 3s
covert blaze
jail free
clever belfry
surely aug does 0 shifting 0 ebon might dmg whole phase
rotund ginkgo
idk sounds like skill issue anda
clever belfry
that seems realistic
fast mural
with recent afflictions bugs i wouldnt be surprised if augs can buff the healing adds on fyrakk
covert blaze
Do you do anything to the healers adds as Aug?
fast mural
clever path
that seems realistic <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
show me pls
i dont know how to use warcraft logs
warm crag
that seems realistic <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
noob
clever belfry
silence green logger
sinful spoke
is there a way to compare 2 of my logs at the same time?
warm crag
rolled
eternal sundial
Spoingus did u complete item
sinful spoke
im trying and it snot working
rotund ginkgo
coarse nest
GREEN SPONGE
warm crag
i am being traded the currency to continue the questline as we speak
coarse nest
rotund ginkgo
clever belfry
is there a way to compare 2 of my logs at the same time?
yes
sinful spoke
how
eternal sundial
i am being traded the currency to continue the questline as we speak
Remember i was the fastest leafdoer
sinful spoke
im trying to compare these two to see if its really just the leggo
eternal sundial
professional speedrunner
rotund ginkgo
im trying to compare these two to see if its really just the leggo
what boss is that
warm crag
i have been traded the currency
sinful spoke
volc
eternal sundial
Lego isnt 34k
rotund ginkgo
seems like ur just dogshit
eternal sundial
It's 11k tops
sinful spoke
seems like ur just dogshit
thats crazy considering i didnt ask for YOUR OPINION
rotund ginkgo
leggo also doesnt give u 2 ilvl
rotund ginkgo
thats crazy considering i didnt ask for YOUR OPINION
sinful spoke
coarse nest
sinful spoke
id like to think i just got better rng there :kekw
rotund ginkgo
is that mythic or heroic?
sinful spoke
ty anda
rotund ginkgo
has to be mythic right?
sinful spoke
mythic
clever belfry
holy moly this aug is playing game
eternal sundial
If u do one sale a week ur insta 99 avg in HC 
sinful spoke
If u do one sale a week ur insta 99 avg in HC <:bedge:882323848844963860>
real
clever belfry
If u do one sale a week ur insta 99 avg in HC <:bedge:882323848844963860>
i did that on aug
did not work
0 good buff targets
no mage
actually just hearth out angle
open prairie
tbh i wish except the sales i do know
clever belfry
I shall now not invite you to my +20
andasimp + spongiewarr were declined for a +20 on tuesday
rotund ginkgo
TWO MORE SUPERBLOOMS LADS
clever belfry
this is actual lore
rotund ginkgo
we get A SOLID 40 per run
eternal sundial
Bad comp
clever belfry
balls
full token
I feel like thats a bs sim for AoE... I have that trinket at lower ilvl. When i test it, it picks to proc haste even though its my lower stat out of combat. Because in combat our haste increases.
open prairie
because someone called him a blind mf
for asking for summon with no lock there
i swear do people not play with raidframes
open prairie
how do you not see theres no lock in group
rotund ginkgo
bugs? i got 100% leaf
sinful spoke
the rest of the quests
open prairie
I feel like thats a bs sim for AoE... I have that trinket at lower ilvl. When i ...
it picks your highest at the moment
that you pop
solemn widget
do we play dancing blades on tyran week?
full token
ya lol i guess you could make a W/a that tells you what stat is high at the moment
open prairie
do we play dancing blades on tyran week?
every week
rotund ginkgo
🧐
open prairie
titanic rage is so mid
solemn widget
thank you
rotund ginkgo
i fuck with it heavy just cuz it dumbs my shit down so much lmao
even tho i dont run
full token
u mean like the stat weakauras that
no like a live feed.. because your haste changes depending on talents
rotund ginkgo
it
rotund ginkgo
no like a live feed.. because your haste changes depending on talents
yes those weakauras
covert blaze
I feel like thats a bs sim for AoE... I have that trinket at lower ilvl. When i ...
Mirror is sim bait
steep fable
tank lost aggro
I have been calling Odyn's Fury "the suicide button". Gets me killed on big m+ packs from time to time...lol
full token
well then yes
rotund ginkgo
@steep fable it was LFR smolderon
full token
thats what i was talking about
open prairie
I have been calling Odyn's Fury "the suicide button". Gets me killed on big m+ p...
bad tank
rotund ginkgo
or bad OF timing
clever belfry
I have been calling Odyn's Fury "the suicide button". Gets me killed on big m+ p...
odyns fury = spell id 7???
@warm crag
steep fable
<@441353864881635328> it was LFR smolderon
oh, lol
rotund ginkgo
https://wago.io/NyLsOPQ4z @full token
full token
nice ty
rotund ginkgo
open prairie
just pop it before you engage
open prairie
clever belfry
https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478
sea bug
pulsar turtle
What are the odds of getting Lego now if we’ve cleared heroic since first week?
Do they go up or could you just never get it haha
clever path
What are the odds of getting Lego now if we’ve cleared heroic since first week?
Its pretty random to be honest, I dunno - quiet high I'd say, but i just like to make people believe
pulsar turtle
It feels pretty wack to still not have
And still have 1 483 wep lol cause never seen another 489 even in vault
steep fable
😂
covert blaze
sinful spoke
I have been calling Odyn's Fury "the suicide button". Gets me killed on big m+ p...
real and true
OF+ leggo active
u just ded
clever path
isnt its worth it to reck - charge - ww - ramp - of
warm crag
odyns fury = spell id 7???
<@164800371057754112>
how the fuck do you rip aggro with OF
that button does zero damage
summer quail
ye only press OF if you have crab proc up. that way your OF will do more damage
dapper goblet
another good part of s2 is you wont die instantly when you press your buttons
gotta wait for 
and then probably die later
is what it is
clever belfry
but u die to rot dmg trust me bro cause u dont press BT every 2nd global
open prairie
yeah most tanks just suck idk
dapper goblet
open prairie
old boomers who cant press 1 button every global
open prairie
but u die to rot dmg trust me bro cause u dont press BT every 2nd global
who said this lmao
healer main?
clever belfry
no s3 copers
dapper goblet
handfuls of people talkin about it
dapper goblet
ravager gives speed though so you can run out of stuff faster so probaly equals out
solemn oyster
Just play outlaw rogue
clever belfry
aug>healers>tanks in terms of boosted ranking
u forgor one class of people
at the top
its mages
its jsut fucking mages
i swear to god pug mages are worse than augs somehow
open prairie
Just play outlaw rogue
then the tank gigapulls
or my favorite type of pug tank: the guy who chains with 3 mobs at sub 5%
ember apex
thats fine just not bolster weeks
open prairie
the pulls sub is good in
also means your tank has
more than 1 braincell
pull 2-3 mobs then chain at 5% is typical pug tank play
covert blaze
yeah most tanks just suck idk
TRUE
wild mural
real
frozen lake
Its pretty random to be honest, I dunno - quiet high I'd say, but i just like to...
It still seems very low. I did a heroic pug that had like 15 plate that all said they killed heroic each week. One legendary dropped
open prairie
It still seems very low. I did a heroic pug that had like 15 plate that all said...
i saw 4 drop in one run
out of 6 people
ymmv
open prairie
bonus pts if its someones alt
they boosted less than 48hrs prior
++pts if its an alt they’re too broke to buy mats/too lazy to do the quest
covert blaze
I got leggo and I still haven't had the time to play. How do you use it aoe? Not when, but how? Does it hit in a circle around you or do you need to run over mobs between you and the target?
clever path
I got leggo and I still haven't had the time to play. How do you use it aoe? Not...
You know the mini tank boss on rise? I kinda see it like that, where its a line on either side of you and then you sweep forward the damage
covert blaze
I got leggo and I still haven't had the time to play. How do you use it aoe? Not...
@young swan
mossy acorn
Hey guys, in the situation where I have 80 rage Do I always want to rampage or if bloodthirst is up do I cast that first to get some more rage + reset the CD of OF?
mossy fox
i dont have but been told it's a frontal cone
young swan
I got leggo and I still haven't had the time to play. How do you use it aoe? Not...
6 yard frontal cone
best use case is hit a bunch on inconsequential small adds and then use it on big guy for big fuck funnel
clever path
Wish it hit like beacon
open prairie
beacon bad
warm crag
best use case is hit a bunch on inconsequential small adds and then use it on bi...
(this is bad according to xan)
clever path
beacon bad
When it took up a trinket slot sure
warm crag
now on to listen to xantage yap about warrior for 1 hour straight
young swan
(only good for m+(minigame) and tindral(fake boss(mickey mouse raid)))
ember apex
protect ur IQ however u can
clever belfry
now on to listen to xantage yap about warrior for 1 hour straight
i dont think
i will
clever belfry
maybe if im drunk as balls at 4am
half rivet
Lego lunges you toward target, hits any target near main for smaller hits then last hit for a larger amount, increased by 10% for each target with the dot that gets applied by hitting an enemy with any hit (use whirlwind)
dapper goblet
(this is bad according to xan)
xan says his favorite trinket is CoF (am but on a trinket) but then says how much he hates AM (cof is am but on a trinket)
clever belfry
xan says his favorite trinket is CoF (am but on a trinket) but then says how muc...
my favourite trinket is the ember from BRH cause its not cringe and just gives me stats
young swan
xan says his favorite trinket is CoF (am but on a trinket) but then says how muc...
so we're just ignoring that i said i like evil eye of galakras
warm crag
xan says his favorite trinket is CoF (am but on a trinket) but then says how muc...
xan needs to stop being a noob
dapper goblet
you were 7 when soo came out
young swan
i was 12
clever path
Best trink was arcanocrystal and amanthuls
clever belfry
the fuck did archimonde class trinket do for fury again
clever path
dapper goblet
frenzy
young swan
the fuck did archimonde class trinket do for fury again
haste on auto attacks
dapper goblet
literally frenzy
dapper goblet
yeah
turned into how the spec played in legion
then turned to poopis in bfa - current
unreal onyx
I wonder how many people ironically or unironically use the "eating nam nam" wa
warm crag
uh oh
warm crag
report them all
clever belfry
rea l
clever belfry
boring version
unreal onyx
just to spite us
clever path
Thats beautiful
coarse nest
SoO was such a good spot in my time playing wow
clever path
atleast its not the other one
clever belfry
i didnt play MOP at all AMA
clever path
Nighthold and antorus were my glory days
wild mural
i didnt play MOP at all AMA
why mop slapped
warm crag
i didnt play MOP at all AMA
do you like men
clever belfry
was at a point in life when i didnt play wow
coarse nest
I played OG combat rogue in SoO before they killed it
clever belfry
i played wrath
coarse nest
clever belfry
and then in wod again
coarse nest
Good times
unreal onyx
had this one in a key last week
clever belfry
do you like men
i like men, but not romantically 👍
unreal onyx
wildest one so far
prime meadow
LF someone who can help me with spell reflect WA
clever belfry
had this one in a key last week
i get banned for china nam nam
and these people
dont
warm crag
had this one in a key last week
report
clever belfry
this is so toxic
coarse nest
had this one in a key last week
Where’s the “uWu”
tall turret
had this one in a key last week
hardy cargo
had this one in a key last week
a dk in my raid if someone asks for a weakaura will just rename his eating nam nam weakaura to whatever thyere asking for and link it lol
prime meadow
Anyone in here who uses "Spell reflect essentials" who can help me out. got a few questions
nocturne dragon
I think spell reflect is in the pinned post?
prime meadow
It is, but its not working properly i think. So i just wanted some help figuring it
nocturne dragon
you mean the page is not loading? it's loading perfectly fine for me
prime meadow
The problem is, that its only showing when the mob im targeting is casting on me. not the other mobs who might mbe casting on me also
covert blaze
best use case is hit a bunch on inconsequential small adds and then use it on bi...
Just read this. So to clarify it's a frontal cone while you're channeling?
covert blaze
Next week for sure
nocturne dragon
Next week for sure
dawn pivot
what do you do if you dont have enough rage for rampage to make it BB to spend the odyn stack?
use slam+ww to get enough rage or just use the stack with bloodthirst?
cuz you cant do the bt+filler+bt combo
summer quail
use slam+ww and if those are on cd and you can't ramp then you just send the bt
ebon chasm
What alts do you guys enjoy most ? Struggling to find anything that I enjoy other than warrr
coarse nest
Usually a 2nd warrior does the trick
mental tapir
does any of you have any clue about why fury warrior are playing with different embellishment on Mythic Fyrakk?
dawn pivot
What alts do you guys enjoy most ? Struggling to find anything that I enjoy othe...
you tried arms?
spiral oasis
What alts do you guys enjoy most ? Struggling to find anything that I enjoy othe...
If you like warrior, you'll love arcane mage.
summer quail
What alts do you guys enjoy most ? Struggling to find anything that I enjoy othe...
enhance, outlaw is pretty fun as well
ebon chasm
If you like warrior, you'll love arcane mage.
Explain
mental tapir
I can see that 1 shadowflame + Versatility wrists are being played and also 2 shadowflames? Does any sim exists for that?
ebon chasm
I can see that 1 shadowflame + Versatility wrists are being played and also 2 sh...
Difference is minor
scenic crater
My warrior is my alt at the moment just got him to 476 , started playing him last week got him from 398 to 476. My main is my 487 paladin with Lego, got a 480 bm hunter to. I'm liking warrior , just trying to get the rotation down. Raid bot shows avg of 202k dps but when bursting is done and it steadys on dummy barely getting 154k
mental tapir
Difference is minor
is it anyhow related to legendary weapon?
ebon chasm
enhance, outlaw is pretty fun as well
I enjoyed storm enhance last season not tried the new elementalist thingy
gilded pawn
My warrior is my alt at the moment just got him to 476 , started playing him las...
you should sim target dummy and compare
spiral oasis
Shaman too many button.
scenic crater
I have
ebon chasm
is it anyhow related to legendary weapon?
No, double shadowflame is slightly ahead ST but vers also saves u
spiral oasis
I think the wrists r the safest bet because you'll always get value from them in content that matters
scenic crater
Maybe it because I got brand and rezan eye and there isn't a big burst DMG
ebon chasm
Brand needs a good 5 min fight
scenic crater
I use the main priory of rampage and bloodrage , then use ww and slam when not enough rage
ebon chasm
Do you have might of ocean or augury?
scenic crater
When I use ember trink I get huge burst for abit but then simmers down
Nah I wish that what I am aiming for
mental tapir
No, double shadowflame is slightly ahead ST but vers also saves u
defensively you mean?
ebon chasm
defensively you mean?
Yes, and offensive vers is just great
scenic crater
ATM I got 480 brand , rezan eye, flame trink from smolderon 476 ,the snake trink 476 from snake boss . And the dps trink form brh that has a chance to deal DMG and has haste
scenic crater
Ya I'm aiming for ocean, haven't seen Aug drop 😦
ebon chasm
Replace snake with ocean when you get that
scenic crater
I kinda figured flame trink was better for m+ because of the aoe burst
I made a macro to go with Odin fury
ebon chasm
Which one is that sorry,
scenic crater
I'll try the snakes out with rezan . I did one time but the dps was kind of low compared to a few others
ebon chasm
Ashes?
scenic crater
True
ebon chasm
And as a stat stick it's not great
scenic crater
What about the haste trinket from brh ?
ebon chasm
Counterweight?
scenic crater
Ya
past pivot
I kinda figured flame trink was better for m+ because of the aoe burst
Augury + Might are bis for m+. If no Augury, your next best choices are probably Crab or ember or Gore or Pips.
ebon chasm
Wouldn't use that either
sullen basin
i thought counterweight was an agi thing never seen it on warr only my sham a couple times
scenic crater
By ember you mean ashes ?
hardy cargo
of nullification
past pivot
Counterweight is bad. Rezan is an ST trinket. Not great for M+. Signet probably better if you can keep stacks up.
hardy cargo
from brh
past pivot
Ember of nullification. Mainstat and vers.
young swan
Just read this. So to clarify it's a frontal cone while you're channeling?
correct
past pivot
Some people say they like it. But that 3-minute CD isn’t good imo.
ebon chasm
Farm throne for ocean it's reasonable to get unlike augury
Stick with rezan / snakes or brand
Untill ocean
past pivot
Yeah. If you don’t have ocean and do m+, it’s priority no. 1
past pivot
Untill ocean
Not Rezan
scenic crater
Ok I'll try to look into getting ocean or gore , or ember . I guess crabs doesn't look bad . Pips and Aug are kind of hard to get
sullen basin
I was forced to trade away pips (I have hero signet and hero branch) to someone who doesnt do dungeons much in my heroic reclear
isnt pips good
dusk jackal
You know, i have both Aug & might, but if im to trust the sims, it tells me to replace them both with pips and mirror. This is for 3 target casting patchwerk for 1 minute
past pivot
Pips is solid.
vapid river
Was doing a lfr earlier and no shit everyone who could rolled on the augury like 16 people
sullen basin
gotta be better for m+ and sometimes raid than a 2.5m cd damage trinket
warm crag
isnt pips good
no better than your current trinkets i think dunno
past pivot
You know, i have both Aug & might, but if im to trust the sims, it tells me to r...
Yes. You’re simming that way so mirror will be very good. In a key, might wins out. More uses
Unless you can clear a dungeon in 3 minutes
warm crag
aoe sims are trolling a bit i wouldnt put much weight in them
dusk jackal
so what settings do you guys use for MT simming?
warm crag
st patchwerk, its the only thing you're there for anyways
past pivot
Mt sims are all kinds lol
livid void
Are there any haste breakpoints we shoot for? I’ve been stacking vers/mas and it says to keep stacking it
clever path
What alts do you guys enjoy most ? Struggling to find anything that I enjoy othe...
all 3 rogues
are turbo fun
past pivot
Are there any haste breakpoints we shoot for? I’ve been stacking vers/mas and it...
None. Just follow sims
clever path
each in their own way
hardy cargo
Are there any haste breakpoints we shoot for? I’ve been stacking vers/mas and it...
if robot say keep stacking then keep stacking 
🤖 👑
hardy cargo
we do top gear
warm crag
do not sim stat weights
hardy cargo
and equip what robot says to
ebon chasm
all 3 rogues
Which would you reccomend trying first of the 3?
clever path
outlaw is the most fury like
past pivot
so what settings do you guys use for MT simming?
Our dps profile is very similar for ST and MT. You’re probably better off using top gear recommendations and swapping out trinkets between ST and MT (or trinket if you have Augury) then trying to run multiple types of MT sims. None of which are 1as reliable as the ST sims
dusk dawn
Hey guys I got the lego and I was just wondering when in the best time to use the on use? do we use it on cd as long as we dont have any cooldowns going?
clever path
past pivot
Hey guys I got the lego and I was just wondering when in the best time to use th...
Read the pins.
ebon chasm
I never use it, it's trash 🤣
Just leave the dot up on everything and keep pressing rotation
dusk jackal
Our dps profile is very similar for ST and MT. You’re probably better off using ...
thank you
clever path
Hey guys I got the lego and I was just wondering when in the best time to use th...
here is a pin Axekandi was talking about
pretty much a tl;dr with its own tl;dr
warm crag
Spongie only sims stat weights
spread true information again and the money will be mine
dusk dawn
ty guys I see it now
compact siren
the loan requires payment in head pats
warm crag
deal
clever path
I never use it, it's trash 🤣
then you are loosing dps
even if its small % , still a loss
warm crag
its optimal to tab out and shitpost somewhere
compact siren
true!
dusk dawn
Not using it with buffs mean we should not use while we have dancing blades buff from odyn's as well?
sullen basin
if we get 4th spec itll be zbarb right
wild mural
FUCK THAT
sullen basin
warrior is one of the easiest classes to turn into a support spec
give us 2 small sticks and lots of angy
easy buffs
spend rage to maintain buffs on allies 🙂 no targeting just proximity 🙂
past pivot
DH is most logical to make a melee support spec
dusk jackal
Warriors should have something like "Derogatory Shout" where we call others a pussy and it makes them man up and heal.
scenic crater
Oh I forgot I got accelerating sand glass 480 , so ATM 480 rezan eye, brand , 476 coiled serpent idol , 476 ashes , 480 counter weight , 476 spores of alacritiy are my current trinks
sullen basin
dont make sense
hardy cargo
nah as warriors we would be drill instructors and roast our friends in raid so hard a private pyle situation happens
sullen basin
Oh I forgot I got accelerating sand glass 480 , so ATM 480 rezan eye, brand , 4...
but you can only use two trinkets thats like 10 trinkets
and when they do it we get a buff instead?
scenic crater
Ya kinda hard to decide what to use in m+
past pivot
Ya kinda hard to decide what to use in m+
None of them. lol
Run ToT for a Might and Crab.
scenic crater
Is rezan and snake coil the best option from my list of trinkets for m+ for the time being till I get ocean , gore or crab ?
hardy cargo
in your case id probably just do a single target sim and use whatever is bis for st
scenic crater
Well that would be rezan and brand
hardy cargo
until might+crab/butchers block
past pivot
Rezan is an ST trinket. So kinda yikes. Brand if you can keep stacks up.
scenic crater
Sims tell me anyway rezan and brand
past pivot
Probably idol over Rezan
clever path
is might + crab a thing?
past pivot
is might + crab a thing?
Yes.
hardy cargo
if pugging all the time id figure out what replaces brand in terms of damage
scenic crater
So brand and coil?
hardy cargo
but if you know the tank/routing and you know if you can keep stacks on brand its not bad
past pivot
I would before Rezan. But see what works. None of those are good for M+ so play around all of them.
hard widget
Rezan is good for m+
past pivot
Rezan is good for m+
No. It’s not. You give the worst advice.
fading sky
its fackin hard to c in raid
hardy cargo
I wouldnt calls rezans eye good, but its not horrible
scenic crater
Ya I tried to , I thought ashes was ok for the burst on aoe, I usually pop ashes with Odin fury on aoe packs
hard widget
No. It’s not. You give the worst advice.
xd sure
fading sky
on smold now i almost cant c it
scenic crater
Why is counterweight bad ?
hard widget
You said might of the ocean was a bad trinket for m+ a few days ago. Now this.
My guy, i dont know if u need glasses or if you are just making shit up. But i never said anything like that
hardy cargo
Why is counterweight bad ?
its just a single target dmg trinket thats not quite as good as others compared to it(rezans, signet brand, etc)
vapid river
Why is counterweight bad ?
It's not, it's just not as good as others
scenic crater
Ah ok
vapid river
So in the universe of smooth brain minmaxing not #1 = bad
hardy cargo
I mean, you definitely should not go out of your way for it, and I wouldn't call that smooth brain. But if its the best thing you got it'll do until you get better
scenic crater
Ok for the time being I'll run snake coil and brand til I get crab/ might or gore . Hopefully one day get Aug 😦 .. my paladin 487 with Lego... Still can't get Aug on him....
final delta
how can i sim different food buffs again? ._:
hard widget
Ok for the time being I'll run snake coil and brand til I get crab/ might or gor...
Just sim a droptimizer and do follow what it tells you to get ^^
vapid river
I mean, you definitely should *not* go out of your way for it, and I wouldn't ca...
Yeah I wouldn't farm it for sure
But if it's there, might as well
scenic crater
Ya I do that to, but it usually has brand at the top, same with rezan ehh
vapid river
Brand is one of those tricky trinkets because you can drop stacks
scenic crater
Right
It like anvil
Which I can't wait for that to come back in fate
And beacon
forest rose
final delta
clever path
next week for sure
drowsy drift
Yet another week of disappointment. 😩
clever path
i have no idea man
tacit crag
is it 2 minutes fight right?
Yes it's because you put 2mins
tacit crag
Most sim 5mins
gilded pawn
just go to the bottom and reset
plucky ice
unique frigate
Does it matter which weapon i have in which hand? 😅
unique frigate
If same ilv?
unreal onyx
then it doesn't matter
unique frigate
Okay
unreal onyx
will I ever get rid of the +50% restored dreamleaf buff?
past pivot
are your sims accurate to what you see in action boys n gals?
Sims are supposed to show you what you could do under perfect conditions in those parameters not what you should be doing in game.
There’s always mechanics, lag, dumb tanks, etc to deal with.
clever path
Sims are supposed to show you what you could do under perfect conditions in thos...
Oh yes, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks
For some reason I thought that sim is like going to be doing stuff like an average Joe yknow , with dcs and all
Jokes aside though, I have been playing this game for a long time , but this is the first time I’m actually getting to the point where I want to do stuff more meticulously
edgy widget
For some reason I thought that sim is like going to be doing stuff like an avera...
the sim does, purposefully, play pretty close to what a real player does and how they should do it
which means yes it is subject to latency, etc
you can't account for every varied mechanic though, so the sim doesn't try to - it just establishes a comparative baseline
clever path
I see. As much as I understood it’s also hard to simulate a m+ scenario, right ? But since it has been told to me multiple times now, that our damage profile is very similar in both multi target and single target , so can just simply simulate single target and base off of that ?
past pivot
That’s assuming you set the sim right, correct? Like not adding wind fury if you don’t get it in game. Or tweaking those variables. Or are those insignificant enough?
unreal onyx
when I use the leggy, do the mobs I suck the buff from have to be alive when the cast is finished?
frozen bay
I know its recommended to sim ST patchwerk for fury, but lets say i want to sim AoE, is dungeon slice or 5 min 5 targets etc the most effective?
clever path
That’s assuming you set the sim right, correct? Like not adding wind fury if you...
Oh right, if I’d be running m+ at most I should set BL and windfury not the whole thing.
restive peak
I see. As much as I understood it’s also hard to simulate a m+ scenario, right ?...
Basically just run your ST and swap trinkets for M+
And then droar/WW talents/Shockwave
But ye, we have 1 of the easiest ST/MT swaps of any class
olive wraith
I know its recommended to sim ST patchwerk for fury, but lets say i want to sim ...
Is there a raid fight you’re trying to sim? Or just general m+
frozen bay
rn just m+
olive wraith
Ye
olive wraith
5m 5t patchwork will probably never happen in m+ scenario
urban coral
Hey guys, do you use a lower lag tolerance/spell queue window for fury. I watched a youtube vid about how important lag tolerance is. Is this true?
restive peak
Also just timed R2 world EB on this affix we ball
restive peak
❤️
past pivot
Or just use your top gear ST recommendations and swap out trinkets from ST to MT. Or swap out trinket if you have augury and keep that equipped.
olive wraith
Also just timed R2 world EB on this affix we ball
But fury bad in m+
restive peak
That's what I was sayin but Axe said it better lewl
Honestly as I get higher and higher, we're better and better
olive wraith
frozen bay
So AoE sim is bait i guess
frozen bay
ok 😩
olive wraith
Dungeon slice is decent afaik
restive peak
Legit w rageheart and how tanky we are, I'm legit more useful as we get higher; I just don't die ever
olive wraith
But there’s so many variables
restive peak
ST still matters in M+
olive wraith
Did you vote a3
glad plover
ST still matters in M+
Especially this week
restive peak
So just run ST top gear and swap trinks
olive wraith
S3*
past pivot
I've started running Rageheart>ocean at 28/29s now
Do you have an Ember of Nullification? Tried that? Leggo seems to like it. Not done keys that high but ember is some some somewhat secret tech
restive peak
Every week
restive peak
Do you have an Ember of Nullification? Tried that? Leggo seems to like it. Not d...
I have a 483, it's decent, I don't think I'd run it over aug/rage tbh
frozen bay
I voted s2 simply because playing the same tier that we currently are for another season sounds fucking boring 🙂
I didnt even play s2
dapper goblet
based
glad plover
A lot of people are going rageheart
past pivot
I should try and get a rageheart then.
olive wraith
If you haven’t played s2 that makes sense
restive peak
Vers pog as fuck, tanky, consistent dmg...it's baller
I don't even have leggo yet, I assume it'll only get better when I do
past pivot
Been using AUgury + Might for m+ unless it’s spiteful then augury + signet.
For raid, augury + signet for longer fights. Augury + ember/Rezan for shorter fights.
frozen bay
Still only got lfr augury, sucks real bad
restive peak
Ye that's the BIS for sure, besides swapping might for rageheart in higher keys BUT I wouldn't swap it in mid/lower keys where burst is a bit stronger
glad plover
If you do not have Augury what is better Rezan or Crab it seems crab sims slightly better
past pivot
Ember started simming higher with leggo but it loves vers likes its crack
restive peak
If augury weren't so strong I'd legit run ember+rageheart w leggo LOL
But augury is fucking cracked
past pivot
If you do not have Augury what is better Rezan or Crab it seems crab sims slight...
I was crab fan but I changed to ember. Static mainstat and vers. No proc to deal with.
molten relic
I looted leggo before I got a might
glad plover
Yeah, I am not stepping foot in BRH to farm anything anymore, that Dungeon broke my heart too many times this season 😄
molten relic
Lmao
glad plover
I mean its easy dungeon but never dropped anything I need
icy panther
i've never even seen ember. ran blackrook soo many fucking times and its never been dropped
past pivot
I heard it changed to tank spec loot but not sure. Check the guide. At work so can’t check
glad plover
i've never even seen ember. ran blackrook soo many fucking times and its never b...
I saw it once maybe
cosmic lance
Nah it drops as fury, ive had about 3 this season
or arms
I should say
Who runs fury loot spec lol
clever path
There’s a trink in brh besides counterweight for warriors ?!
icy panther
i've been running fury loot spec just to get one hander mogs LUL
cosmic lance
Go prot if you specifically want 1h mogs
icy panther
5head as fuck
glad plover
At one point there will be 1hand legendary for tanks
clever path
I heard it changed to tank spec loot but not sure. Check the guide. At work so ...
It started out as tank spec but you can get it as dps now
glad plover
And we are so going to play it as fury 😄
clever path
Aaaah the ember of nullification
past pivot
It started out as tank spec but you can get it as dps now
Thanks for confirming
clever path
I had it in vault on mythic track, but I thought it’s shit and didn’t take it cause I had augry
Joever
autumn mica
Aaaah the ember of nullification
Ember is a good trinket tbh
clever path
What’s so special about it anyway, I thought effect is kinda stupid for fury
past pivot
What’s so special about it anyway, I thought effect is kinda stupid for fury
It’s a passive stat stick with strength and versatility.
Both of which we want
cosmic lance
People forget how good stat sticks were in legion
past pivot
It’s even better with the leggo
cosmic lance
They kinda stopped existing for a while
unreal onyx
am I insane or weren't there also nerfs to tindral seeds this patch?
past pivot
1 on-use trinket and 1 passive trinket should be mandatory
gentle terrace
I got lucky enough to get a Might of the ocean in my vault this week without fucking ever see it drop after 37 runs
unreal onyx
also, can I influence the dmg I do when flying into roots on tindral
with vers or dmg pot?
or crit
cosmic lance
am I insane or weren't there also nerfs to tindral seeds this patch?
I believe they made it impossible to double soak and reduced how many spawn?
fading sky
something like that ngl though
we simply cant play well enough to get smolderon down
100% personal mistakes 24-7
unreal onyx
I believe they made it impossible to double soak and reduced how many spawn?
made it impossible?
it was impossible since release
molten relic
1 on-use trinket and 1 passive trinket should be mandatory
Double passive is strong tooo tho
Cause augury is cracked
And might has no primary stat
past pivot
True dat
sour frigate
472 ww sims the same as 486 fury in st with m+ build 🥲
molten relic
Ngl 483 ember prob just better than might outside of a 2min profile
It’s like 3% damage just from verse
Plus the mainstat
At all times
molten relic
Hourglass bad
sour frigate
whah
molten relic
I wouldn’t run double passive outside of augury + 1
glad plover
WW does a TON of damage, I was shocked how good some people are on the spec
molten relic
Ww is cracked
sour frigate
i dont have augury
molten relic
What else do you have besides hourglass
sour frigate
WW does a TON of damage, I was shocked how good some people are on the spec
im shocked that i pulled like 200+ overalls with ~465 ww
molten relic
Unless u have 0 haste there should be better options
sour frigate
easily
sour frigate
What else do you have besides hourglass
everything but augury and the rare smolderon thing
molten relic
Might plus ember prob better
sour frigate
i dont raid at all
molten relic
Than ember plus hourglass
sour frigate
no diff really
molten relic
Just better profile
sour frigate
maybe might for bigpulls
red berry
honestly for keys consistency is just so good so it doesn’t really matter if you use two passives if they’re good
sour frigate
i was going to roll ww this season but had no time
molten relic
Augury only outlier
sour frigate
now im pumping
molten relic
Trinket is fucking bonkers
cosmic lance
made it impossible?
Soaking a 2nd used to spawn a tree and wipe you
molten relic
Signet technically an outlier but only works that way on longer fights
unreal onyx
Soaking a 2nd used to spawn a tree and wipe you
so that's gone now?
cosmic lance
Yes
fading sky
whats the line you code in to change ya input lag
fading sky
it feels like something is offtonight where i have delay when i push button
clever path
Gotta start looking for good season 4 possibilities. Axekandi said once anvil
cosmic lance
so they made it *possible* to soak 2
No, they made it so you cannot hit a 2nd one after youve soaked one
fading sky
u cant oversoak basicly
cosmic lance
You used to be able to run over another seed and accidentally double soak, wiping your raid
They just made it so once you hit one seed, hitting a 2nd one doesnt soak it and doesnt spawn a tree either
unreal onyx
No, they made it so you cannot hit a 2nd one after youve soaked one
but it was like that since day 1, no?
restive peak
Biz runs mirror for higher keys for boss dam, it’s fairly dog water otherwise and definitely not good for 20/25 or even lower…3m is a long time
cosmic lance
He said himself he runs it because it sims higher
Whether its for boss dam or whatever, it sims higher for him so he uses it
restive peak
It leads to some cool burst numbers and such, his group is probably also pulling around it
Sims higher doesn’t always mean run it, if it’s a 1% increase in specific windows but you will never pull around those specific windows, or you’ll go 6 packs at a loss in a lower key, it isn’t better
cosmic lance
I'm not arguing that, i'm just telling you what his own logic is that he's said on stream
cosmic lance
Might is preferable, but if you don't have one just use mirror that you've got until you can get something more optimal
wanton mirage
Me dumbass always had to use human racial one time in nymue.
wary mountain
Hi team, it’s my turn for dreamrender this week and was wondering if there’s any tips on how/when to use it effectively in m*
wanton mirage
Pin
young swan
Hi team, it’s my turn for dreamrender this week and was wondering if there’s any...
outside of cd's, try your best to use it for funneling into a big prio guy
it can be kinda hard to position correctly, sometimes its just not possible
olive wraith
debating going human for dam
Human is pretty good for Goliath WM. And a eb choking vines if it goes off
clever path
Human is pretty good for Goliath WM. And a eb choking vines if it goes off
But their sprint animation man
olive wraith
Meh that stuff doesn’t bother me
clever path
Meh that stuff doesn’t bother me
There are some people who voted season 2 just because of slam animation. Just saying that there are people for whom the feel is everything
olive wraith
That blows my mind lmao
Whos watching that shit instead of paying attention to the fight
storm rune
12 mobs stacked on me, 4 other people casting and 17 aoe abilities going off simultaneously, but some people will still find a way to complain about wrist transmogs
edgy widget
good example of why design in a game as big as wow is so hard - there are so many competing interests and opinions that it really is impossible to please everyone
barren dagger
quick question on OF. i don't need to rampage first before casting it on pull in m+ right? since OF enrages me when i play titanic rage
or is that initial damage from OF not benefitting from enrage?
edgy widget
If you have titanic rage, no you do not need to enrage first
it does benefit from its own enrage proc
barren dagger
ok nice ty
heavy folio
Archi what is your lag tolerance setting?
unreal onyx
why does his matter
cold cave
It's fairly decent, most people prefer might though
well it did replace my 411 timewalking trinket xD
errant vessel
why does his matter
archi smart
unreal onyx
errant vessel
mine is 250 if anyone wants to know 🙂
unreal onyx
isn't the rule of thumb like your ping + 110 ?
edgy widget
my guideline is average latency + 100, no less than 150
valid violet
hey guys
need help again
#showtooltip
/cast [@player, known:Spear of Bastion] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar
someone know why this stopped working for me
unreal onyx
what's spear of bastion?
olive wraith
It’s not spear of bastion anymore
valid violet
wait really? 😄
edgy widget
open your talent tree
edgy widget
eh, it's not exactly the most creative name in the world, but I prefer it
edgy widget
IMO they should
unreal onyx
(I didn't play legion)
dusk jackal
i wish we could stab with spears instead of swinging them around
edgy widget
Odyn's Fury means nothing to people who didn't play Legion, and especially with the way they're setting up Odyn to be more and more villainous (or at least, unlikeable), I think it would be good to rename the ability
olive wraith
wouldn't they have to rename odyn's fury then too
Angry fury 
edgy widget
lol no, halls of valor doesn't have shit to do with Warriors
unreal onyx
but he's a big man sitting in my class hall 
and gave me all my quests for feats of strength
dusk jackal
QUESTION: how does bloodmallet get its data that the highest dps stat distribution is 20% crit, 20% haste, 30% master, 30% vers?
dusty aspen
QUESTION: how does bloodmallet get its data that the highest dps stat distribut...
Math
dusk jackal
based off what? BIS gear?
unreal onyx
QUESTION: how does bloodmallet get its data that the highest dps stat distribut...
that seems wrong to me
mastery is hella low
unreal onyx
ahhh ok 100% total
edgy widget
it's not a very practical metric though, more just for analytical purposes
unreal onyx
not actual % in game
edgy widget
it's not a very practical metric though, more just for analytical purposes
not really
dusk jackal
there is so much information, it gets hard to know who to believe
edgy widget
there is so much information, it gets hard to know who to believe
well none of it is contradictory, so it's not really an issue of knowing who to believe
unreal onyx
bloodmallet feels like it's baiting people into getting/using stuff that is not really as good as it seems
especially stat distributions when raidbots exists
olive wraith
Isn’t bloodmallet just assuming bis
dusk jackal
example: I see none of the top fury warriors on warcraft logs using Blue Silken Lining, yet if i look at my logs and my uptime and plug in a conservative 60% into my sims, it tells me BSL is better than double shadowflame, or shadow+vers wrists
cosmic lance
There's a section at the top you can see the character profile its using
olive wraith
Lining in a perfect scenario I’m sure is best
Realistically idk how you can guarantee a high uptime
dusk jackal
sims tell me pip+mirror is better than aug+might
olive wraith
What are your parameters
dusk jackal
Realistically idk how you can guarantee a high uptime
i have a lot of leech and i seem to avoid damage pretty well
unreal onyx
sims tell me pip+mirror is better than aug+might
makes sense if you sim ST I think
dusk jackal
some fights im in the 70% uptime
unreal onyx
might loses out to some other trinkets in ST sims iirc
edgy widget
Isn’t bloodmallet just assuming bis
it works off the bis list, yes
edgy widget
bloodmallet feels like it's baiting people into getting/using stuff that is not ...
I mean it's not, but ok
edgy widget
especially stat distributions when raidbots exists
and these are showing different things
dusk jackal
makes sense if you sim ST I think
its telling me that in MT sims as well
olive wraith
its telling me that in MT sims as well
What’s the sim
dusk jackal
castingpatchwerk, 3 boss, 1 minute
olive wraith
1m will favor mirror
cosmic lance
1 minute sim sill heavily over value mirror
olive wraith
It’s a burst trink so upfront it will do more dmg
cosmic lance
You'd need to run a 3 minute sim to have a relative somparison
edgy widget
rarely, I had it come up strong for a short time while my stats were scuffed
olive wraith
I use earthen
cosmic lance
i was running wafting dev/earthen but my haste is down to 22% atm so its pushing me back to double wafting dev
unreal onyx
im wafting + earthen atm
olive wraith
Crit good for aoe
cosmic lance
seems like it's bis in aoe
Crit is good in aoe, and we aren't gearing for it in general
unreal onyx
but none of the high m+ gamers use it
at least according to subcreation
0.6% do, sorry
dusk jackal
+30 keys...geezus
barren dagger
im on a double waft myself
cosmic lance
Because it kinda sucks in ST, and they're not running 100% what is on the bis list either
dusk jackal
showoffs!
olive wraith
St matters still
edgy widget
but none of the high m+ gamers use it
I'll let you in on a secret, even among the very high end players, most don't actually test and retest, and polish, and min/max as much as people think they do
unreal onyx
that was just an assumption on my part
cosmic lance
Most of them are fairly aware that running burning over earthen or wafting makes almost zero practical difference to their +30 key
charred panther
Big m+ numbers come from pull size and control more than a wep ench
edgy widget
which isn't to say they're wrong for not using Burning (as pointed out, ST also matters a lot in higher keys), but you'll very often see someone who is very high using something odd for no other reason than they decided to
olive wraith
Maybe if we somehow see fury in mdi they will
edgy widget
Big m+ numbers come from pull size and control more than a wep ench
absolutely, and the same can be said about pushing high keys
unreal onyx
yes ofc it doesn't matter as much as im making it out to be
dusk jackal
i want to be the trendsetter who makes double 1h popular
unreal onyx
but if you wanna be at the top of the top I would've assumed people look out for something like that
and even if it's just for fort weeks
edgy widget
i want to be the trendsetter who makes double 1h popular
gl with that lol
cosmic lance
You gain AoE and lose ST so at best its a wash
clever path
i want to be the trendsetter who makes double 1h popular
We have one @meager gyro
cosmic lance
And at worst you're inting your boss damage
edgy widget
depends on how much you value one vs the other
unreal onyx
in fort I think it's worth the tradeoff
dusk jackal
Laugh now, but when im doing +40 keys, I'LL BE LAUGHING THEN!!
olive wraith
On fort you still want prio dmg