fury

[eternal sundial]

Nothing against the guy

[final delta]

augury still eludes me

[molten relic]

I too got leggo before augury

[final delta]

i never even saw 1 drop

[nocturne dragon]

eludes us all

[dull turtle]

what is the recommended weapon rune ?

im using the mastery one

[stuck shadow]

Hey guys new to warrior, what is a generic best way to sim for m+. I been looking but haven’t found much

[nocturne dragon]

double mastery usually yeah

[timid forge]

single target and then swap ur trinkets out as you see fit

[clever escarp]

next week for sure

[sinful spoke]

imagine not having ur axe by 1/17/2024

[nocturne dragon]

[halcyon python]

Gz mate

[cursive quiver]

Great ember gang

[halcyon python]

Living the dream

[shy knot]

spores any good ?

got mythic in vault

[clever path]

fakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufakufaku

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/take-the-l-gif-19911955

[clever path]

I will devouver you whole

[sinful spoke]

thats crazy activates fyralath active

[coarse nest]

Imagine having to deal with Lego active

Couldn’t be me

[clever path]

I have the lego and dont even press the active

[sinful spoke]

i can see the tears

[clever path]

i mean ok

i just want it for transmog

[sinful spoke]

ur cukcing urself

[clever path]

so that i dont have to run tmog runs 24/7 next expac

teach ppl strats in tmog runs is yikes

[clever path]

Its not good lol

[coarse nest]

Surely I’ll have it by end of season 4

[olive wraith]

It’s still a damage increase to use

[sinful spoke]

ur still losing dmg

[clever path]

Link pre 10.2.5 logs

Bet i win

[sinful spoke]

what are u yapping about

just look at the top logs with it

they all use it

[olive wraith]

It’s damage increase even if you parsed high before

[sinful spoke]

^

[coarse nest]

[oblique trail]

Very weird mentality lol

[dire badge]

[oblique trail]

"link logs otherwise you're wrong"

[dire badge]

they gotta put some of yall in the contraption

[sinful spoke]

its ok the fact he stopped yapping shows he realized he was wrong

[amber arch]

2 questions: Is it like a sin to cast a buffed bloodthirst instead of bloodbath? like im better WW or slam until I can rampage then BB?

[oblique trail]

idk what that gif represents but okay

[oblique trail]

Send it if you can't get rage for rampage

[amber arch]

and second, does avatar buff stack if you use avatar, then a few seconds later OF comes off CD? do I send it or wait for avatar buff to drop?

[oblique trail]

They stack

But you want to wait anyway

Because of the OF bleed

[amber arch]

ya 4s but not the full avatar buff

sweet ty

[olive wraith]

Of only give 4s

[coarse nest]

4 silver

That’s kinda low

[fiery harbor]

pog i get to socket my helm this week

luckyyyyy

[coarse nest]

Gotta charge at least 15g for OF

[clever path]

OF IS GONE NEXT SSN

[olive wraith]

Not really. Some people say s2 you can build anything and be competitive /s

[upbeat sentinel]

If I add a socket to a crafted piece this season, then recraft it up next season, does it keep the socket? 🤔

[glad coyote]

again you will have the top spec which people will always lean to

[fiery harbor]

OF is just a WW that does dmg, i dont get whats the hype about it. its fun and all but its far from being an exciting core talent

[olive wraith]

Did you not see the /s

Of is bursty

[upbeat sentinel]

It turning BT into BB feels crazy good

[fiery harbor]

rampage does that

instead of GCD

[upbeat sentinel]

Er super amped BBS rather

[fiery harbor]

and GCD feels better imo

i mean CDR

not GCD

[olive wraith]

I was confused for a sec lol

I wonder what slayer talents will be

Bs coming back?

[gleaming crag]

execute lol

[upbeat sentinel]

U gonna see me dip from war real fast if Rider of the Apocalypse or the other frost one are insane

San’layn is unfortunately degenerately bad

[olive wraith]

Slam buffs incoming

[sinful spoke]

na but

what the fuck is mountain thane

[olive wraith]

Imagine

[sinful spoke]

give me berserker

wtf is that

[upbeat sentinel]

Fury is berserker already

[storm rune]

berserkerer

[glad coyote]

man pugging keys this week is rough for us

since the affix

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah it’s one of those weeks

[cold cape]

Is Augury that big of a dos increase?

[upbeat sentinel]

However bolstering-tyran at least could be worse

[cold cape]

Dps

[glad coyote]

does around 4-6% of my overall in a waycrest 26

[ebon chasm]

Augury in vault...its a good day

[coarse nest]

POG

Gz

[upbeat sentinel]

3 H raid slots and two M18+ slots, and I got nothing 🙂

H8 vault

[molten relic]

Augury is strong

[coarse nest]

I had 3 mythic raid and 3 myth dungeon

Got a belt

[ebon chasm]

Last 3 weeks I've turned it into the tokens because pure trash

[molten relic]

I need myth gloves and chest now

[unreal onyx]

I had 1 m+ and 3 hc slots

[molten relic]

Don’t wanna do 8 dungeons tho

[unreal onyx]

got a socket

[coarse nest]

My only non 489 slots are my crafted and 1 trinket

Bing chillin

[rotund ginkgo]

JUST CURIOUS
If i get on a normal raid and only kill fyrrak, then go on a full clear heroic

[upbeat sentinel]

If I socket a crafted can I recraft it up next tier and keep socket

[molten relic]

487.25 ilvl

[rotund ginkgo]

can I still get a chance of dropping leggo_

[molten relic]

[unreal onyx]

all other trinkets are 489?

[molten relic]

Yes

U can go lower-> higher

[rotund ginkgo]

sick

[coarse nest]

Well yeah 489 augury

[molten relic]

But not higher-> lower

[rotund ginkgo]

wanna just try my luck

[molten relic]

For chances

[rotund ginkgo]

before guild heroic

[coarse nest]

All other trinkets in bag are 483

[ember apex]

is anyone here who has been doing aotc since week 2 still not have leggo

[rotund ginkgo]

me lol

[upbeat sentinel]

Me on 2 chars

[vapid river]

Yup

[frail trout]

Can't wait to get home and get back on the dreamsurge grind

[unreal onyx]

nope

[frail trout]

[ember apex]

damnnnn

[frail trout]

First world problems I know but

[coarse nest]

I’ve killed heroic fyrakk weekly since it unlocked in NA and have yet to loot axe

[gentle onyx]

Hey lads with s2 tier set winning does that mean going back to raging blow gameplay?

[ember apex]

dude when i got leggo i stayed up until like 3am doing dreamsurges and then woke up again at 530am for work like normal

[coarse nest]

It means you play arms

[molten relic]

Unfortunately

[ember apex]

just so i could have it by next raid day

[frail trout]

He gets it

[gentle onyx]

Why tf did s2 win then if that’s the consensus lol

[ember apex]

and then like as i was the last person to get summoned at smolderon i turned in the final quest

and got the achieve/axe

felt pog

[coarse nest]

Crayon eaters managed to unite at the poll

[upbeat sentinel]

Cheated vote

[ember apex]

crayon eaters

[gentle onyx]

Fuck arms I’ll just roll a diff alt again lol

[ember apex]

whats that meme from

[frail trout]

S2 won because of m plussers, simple as

[upbeat sentinel]

People figured out you can vote on alts and directly after that S2 experienced a 2.5k vote surge on EU 🙂

Totally legit

[frail trout]

Stinky m plussers

[gentle onyx]

Was it max video and critcakes influence maybe

[ember apex]

it's b/c ppl who voted for S2 dont give 2 shits about playing S2 tierset again, they care about not playing DOGSHIT SEASON 3 TIERSET again

[unreal onyx]

crit said it days ago and max's video was out already too

[frail trout]

A question mark take for sure

[upbeat sentinel]

No, because then the vote on NA would’ve shifted too - they have viewers outside the EU.

[ember apex]

critcake doesnt do react content so like he's never gonna sway community opinion i dont think

[upbeat sentinel]

The EU vote experienced a massive shift in a 3 hour period that sealed the vote

[gentle onyx]

Ah well fuck fury again til the war within I guess!

[frail trout]

In hindsight as this is another goofy fated season which makes the raids feel like whatever

Maybe m plussers were right

[ember apex]

fated season is poggers

[frail trout]

To go with the set that does better in m+

[ember apex]

fated sylvanas was the shit

100 motes on P1 🤤

[upbeat sentinel]

Minus “the”

[coarse nest]

Fated season is the best season because you guarantee the 3 best items

[ember apex]

minus "the" like i was saying

[dire badge]

just doing lying

[upbeat sentinel]

Sylvanas a shit fight in general

[sinful kraken]

Which are what

[rich void]

the best set for M+ is not playing warrior

[unreal onyx]

you don't even know how they will implement dinar this season

[coarse nest]

I’m doing asscandy augury and signet

[dire badge]

Inb4 can’t buy leggo with dinar again

[coarse nest]

Lego token is bonus

So we actually get 4 iirc

[unreal onyx]

what

[ember apex]

sylvanas was a garbage fight but fated sylvanas was actually good b/c of the motes

[dire badge]

you don’t get 4 it cost a dinar to upgrade from old season to fated season

[ember apex]

those motes made every single boss better

[unreal onyx]

why would that be

[upbeat sentinel]

Augury, signer, Lege, Ashkandi, two fire rings, two fire embellishes. We are better fire mages.

[clever path]

You guys excited for the 600 ilvl OCE

[rich void]

oh god

good thing i still have mine

[coarse nest]

Oh I could be wrong then I just thought bow was its own token in SL

[unreal onyx]

no

[ember apex]

is oce still gonna be bis in fated

[dire badge]

it wasn’t

[ember apex]

there's no way

[clever path]

Probably

[sinful kraken]

what is OCE

[clever path]

Oceanic

[ember apex]

ominouos chromatic essence

[coarse nest]

Hmm then just Lego/asscandy/augury

Easy

[sinful kraken]

lol

[ember apex]

S2* trinket

[dire badge]

[unreal onyx]

I don't think statsticks are gonna be the play in S4

with the amount of raw stats we get just from gear

[sinful kraken]

Palworld comes out in 2 days

[frail trout]

You guys are forgetting grieftorch

[ember apex]

grieftorch always sucked for fury

[dire badge]

we never used grief seriously

[upbeat sentinel]

Surely Ashkandi is BiS offhand for us

[coarse nest]

Grief torch was meme

[ember apex]

i had mythic grieftorch on my warrior it was worse than a M+ one

[sinful kraken]

i dont even see you talk in #arms chat anymore

[upbeat sentinel]

So we can be firegods

[sinful kraken]

you are fury frontrunner because arms sucks huh

[ember apex]

YO imagine

[dire badge]

I don’t play wow anymore I just swing in when I’m free from work for a minute

[unreal onyx]

depending how/if they implement buyable lego my picks are propably gonna be lego ashk and augury

[dire badge]

I hate fury

[ember apex]

mythic grieftorch
Legendary axe
algethar's puzzlebox

u guys ready for that new meta

[rich void]

yuck

[coarse nest]

IM BOONING

[upbeat sentinel]

I didn’t do S1 so idk what those are

[coarse nest]

[unreal onyx]

if lego is not buyable then propably ashk, augury and smthn else, not sure what

[covert blaze]

we pogging

[dire badge]

you’d upgrade ur leggo from s3 surely

[dull turtle]

did anything change with Fury this patch ?

[dire badge]

cause you surely have leggo

[ember apex]

nah we gonna have Leggo at max ilvl mainhand, Ashkandur offhand

[frail trout]

Did avatar remove your rooted state if you used that wind trinket from s1?

[ember apex]

congrats man

[unreal onyx]

I hope we can upgrade lego ilvl

[upbeat sentinel]

If they make us refarm the legendary I’m rioting

[dire badge]

or you’d be doing regular mythic fyrakk during off weeks

[unreal onyx]

I think that's how they did with sylv bow in SL

[dire badge]

it is

[upbeat sentinel]

It takes too long to farm to make us redo it SURELY

[frail trout]

That trinket that made you a wind elemental

Could you avatar out of the root?

Or was that not a thing

[ember apex]

stormrider's boon or whatever

no u couldnt move

[frail trout]

I didn't play warrior in s1

[coarse nest]

“IM BOONING”

[ember apex]

our brewmaster used it on dathea

[upbeat sentinel]

That would be OP as shit

[unreal onyx]

stormbringers boon iirc

[ember apex]

and would pull aggro after taunt swaps

[upbeat sentinel]

This sounds suspiciously like smth else

[clever path]

OCE and the stat stick off council

[sinful kraken]

vengernacei ncarnat icon

[unreal onyx]

why would you avatar out the root with that trinket if the trinket itself roots you for 5s

[ember apex]

season 1 was pog i got oce like week 2 or week 3 in vault at mythic ilvl

was dope

[clever path]

S2 was oce

[unreal onyx]

that's crazy that you got a s2 trink in s1

[ember apex]

season2 was oce like i was saying

when i was interrupted

[clever path]

Huh

[dire badge]

Bow from slands

[unreal onyx]

do that again

and im bing chilling

[dire badge]

just get leggo surely that isn’t hard

[unreal onyx]

already got it

[coarse nest]

Yeah maid doesn’t that mean you get 4 items total?

[unreal onyx]

no

[coarse nest]

You can’t spend dinar on it

Oh wait I read the rest

Dinar on the upgrade token

[ember apex]

what was s4 in SL i think u got like 4 dinar plates right or was it 3

[dire badge]

the purchasable item was for dinar

3

[unreal onyx]

3 items for your choosing

[ember apex]

so do we get 3 dinar plates in DF or do u think we get more

[unreal onyx]

and 1 other item for bow

[dire badge]

would guess 3 again or less

[unreal onyx]

we are deffo not gonna get more

[clever path]

gz

[ember apex]

why

[clever path]

i am going for round 3 on my dk

prayge

[unreal onyx]

more than 3 would be insanely OP

[dire badge]

they weren’t crazy about the system at 3 that’s why it didn’t come back until now

[upbeat sentinel]

Na it’d be fine

Just let us be OP

Fuck a fated season

[unreal onyx]

"give me loot I want for free pls"

[dire badge]

they will prob try a lower amount and it could possibly stay as a mechanic

[molten relic]

Maybe a half patch mechanic

For 1 item

[upbeat sentinel]

That’s what I’m sayin

[dire badge]

very possibly

[molten relic]

But no shot they have it from the start

[ember apex]

S4 doesnt matter idk why they dont let LFR raiders have mythic ilvl and shit if they clear all raids on LFR during fated

who cares lol

[molten relic]

They hate the token shit

[ember apex]

let them level giga juiced

[dire badge]

the player base does

[upbeat sentinel]

THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

[dire badge]

wow players are giga entitled

[molten relic]

Bring back corruption for fated

[upbeat sentinel]

Fated is a joke so make it a funny one

[ember apex]

hows that entitled

[unreal onyx]

people really be saying "s4 doesn't matter, break the game"

[molten relic]

Then we can really meme

[dire badge]

cause someone else got something people will complain they didn’t

[molten relic]

Any other takes are L takes

[ember apex]

how is that breaking the game, mythic ilvl gear is already in the game

[upbeat sentinel]

Might as well make the joke funny

[ember apex]

give it to lfr andys who cares

[dire badge]

why mythic raid if lfr gets the same thing

[unreal onyx]

let me make any difficulty other than LFR unnessesary

[upbeat sentinel]

Why mythic raid a tier that you already mythic raided

[dire badge]

just turn off all difficulties at that point

[unreal onyx]

gear

[clever path]

idgaf i just want legendary that will just keep killin me

[ember apex]

lfr would have to clear 3x weeks of all raids on fated

[dire badge]

it’s this or do the same raid for another year

[unreal onyx]

why do keys you already did in prior seasons

[ember apex]

by that point everyone is kitted out already

[upbeat sentinel]

Right but like why would I want to M prog the same raid twice

[clever path]

i wonder if its any good on dk that just play hP bar pingpong

[unreal onyx]

gear

[dire badge]

it’s really hardly prog

[upbeat sentinel]

Why can’t they develop more than 3 raids an expac anymore

[silver mantle]

Imagine actually having a legendary this expansion

[restive peak]

Comparing my logs to warrs who killed fyrakk logs, exact same rotations but lower dmg, we love legendary never dropping smile

[silver mantle]

can't be me

[molten relic]

You don’t really prog

Lol

[dire badge]

cause they can do this

and it’s less work for easier pay off

[molten relic]

They already know the fights

[clever path]

wanna know why?

[upbeat sentinel]

Or even h prog

[molten relic]

U just learn timings on the fated shit and that’s it

[upbeat sentinel]

Like who tf cares about doing the same raid again

[molten relic]

The bosses don’t get tuned up as much on fated

[upbeat sentinel]

Just give us 18 dinar plates

[molten relic]

And they start with all the nerfs

[restive peak]

Most of us...enjoy raiding?

Lol

[molten relic]

Let’s just make season 4 tourney realm

Whwre u have all gear asap

[unreal onyx]

roidstack level takes in here today

[dire badge]

why are they releasing another expac they’ve already done that

Why keep playing wow

[cloud shale]

were there mythic difficulty raids when shadowlands had fated?

[unreal onyx]

yes

[dire badge]

yes all diffs had dates

[unreal onyx]

it was literally the same

[dire badge]

fated*

[unreal onyx]

with affixes

[clever path]

finally, someone who believes me DF is just WOD 2

[upbeat sentinel]

There’s no way they actually copied the S like that

[sullen tendon]

outthey were way easier than before because of all the extra buffs

[clever path]

its a code man

i cracked the code

[unreal onyx]

they also were easier bc everyone already did the bosses

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah make it the main realms, if you’re a sadist and wanna reprog that should be a special realm

[unreal onyx]

fated affixes in SL were just FPS eaters

[dire badge]

just motes mostly innit

[sullen tendon]

im sure tier sets also helped

first 2 raids werent designed for them

[upbeat sentinel]

Blizzard colluding with Intel to push people to buy new CPUs

[sullen tendon]

i wish blizzard would get off the 3 raids per expac thing

i want small raids in between again

[unreal onyx]

nah

[dire badge]

unless this s4 has like 0 players day 1 this is prob the new normal

[sullen tendon]

trials of valor was awesome

[unreal onyx]

small raids are just a waste of time

[upbeat sentinel]

I’d say AMD but normies are never buying AMD

[sullen tendon]

great rewards for pushing it

[cloud shale]

with what they said on blizzcon and in interviews we can probably expect 3 raids per EXP and no fated

[clever path]

hey filler raids are awesomne

[upbeat sentinel]

I would rather have a small raid than the same raid again

[sullen tendon]

i like what they did in legion at the beginning

[clever path]

Trial of valor was dope af

[sullen tendon]

we got 3 raids for 1 tier

[unreal onyx]

I'd rather raid a month longer in a long raid than having to play a small raid in between

[upbeat sentinel]

Now we get 3 raids for 1 expansion

[sullen tendon]

lmoa yea

[unreal onyx]

if that gives them enough time to put out a new big one

[sullen tendon]

no dude thats so shitty

i need a change of scenery

fucking sick of being inside big building

[upbeat sentinel]

It’s more like 10 months longer

[sullen tendon]

entire raid takes place insied big building but also you cant mount

abberus is like 400 feet tall rooms but you cant mount

also just walls

[unreal onyx]

idc about the raid environment personally

[sullen tendon]

like tomb of sargeras atleat had smaller rooms so there was more to explore

[unreal onyx]

I just don't wanna deal with all the trash in between

[sullen tendon]

also it had like 4different biomes in it

[upbeat sentinel]

They gonna buff the trash

[hard widget]

Another week without the legendary 😎

[upbeat sentinel]

And unfortunately I don’t mean fury wars

[unreal onyx]

S1 vault trash was soooo annoying

[sullen tendon]

well with hwo blizzard does it now they dont care about the actual raid design and only focus on bosses. all the trash inbetween are just going to be ALL plants or ALL dragons and a shit ton of it to fill in the dead space between bosseswith nothing to do

[upbeat sentinel]

Why not just 0 trash

[unreal onyx]

more mobs at least give higher chance for boe's

I think

[upbeat sentinel]

Make BoEs drop from bosses

[cyan turtle]

what legendary :Hmm

[unreal onyx]

didn't they say they have the minibosses in vault drop items that are bop in the first weeks and then boe?

I never saw one drop

[vapid river]

It never worked

[sullen tendon]

i havent had a boe drop this entire expansion

[vapid river]

Literally couldn't figure out droptables

[unreal onyx]

good thing with 3 raids being active at the same time is I can buy myth boe's in a lot of diff slots early on

[sullen tendon]

i dont understand blizzard view on boes

why nerfthem

[unreal onyx]

ring, head, boots, wrist, neck I think

[sullen tendon]

it hurts world first raiders and normal players

[vapid river]

Yeah I've seen one total I think amongst all the raids, I don't mean personal, I mean the whole raid

[sullen tendon]

world first raiders are going to do the sweatiest shit for high ilvl gear anyways

why punish everyone instead of just them

[upbeat sentinel]

Most of the caveman systems are to stop world first raiders from degenning

[sullen tendon]

WHY THO

they are gonnado it anyways

[upbeat sentinel]

It’s why you can’t trade a higher ilvl trinket to someone else

[unreal onyx]

we've had like 2-3 myth boe's drop this tier

[sullen tendon]

they are going to run 100 +20 keys first week

they are going to make 10 alts to farm split runs

[upbeat sentinel]

Which is stupid - if I get someone else’s BiS, I should give it to them, and they should give me mine

[sullen tendon]

they are going to farm 20 rep first week for augment rune

[soft spade]

https://i.imgur.com/XBK70Ml.png we go agane

[sullen tendon]

it does nothing but punish people for trying to make gold

and its barely something that can be abused

[upbeat sentinel]

More and more dropping per week is nice tho

[sullen tendon]

its not like trade goods

[upbeat sentinel]

I see the light at the end

[sullen tendon]

you cant buy 10000 boes

[soft spade]

yeah nice seeing it drop for fresh chars before i get it :3

[unreal onyx]

bet

[sullen tendon]

*you cant buy 10000 purple heroic or mythic boes

[coarse nest]

We have a running joke that our ret will get it a 2nd time on his fresh DK alt before our main DK player

[unreal onyx]

boe's are fine as they are rn imo

keep them rare

[coarse nest]

Wait you don’t want buyable max ilvl in every slot?

[sullen tendon]

all it does is hurt alts and the first 2 weeks of raid

they should only have it as rare as it is for the first few weeks

[upbeat sentinel]

My fresh Paladin running LFR will get it over my weekly H kill War and DK

[lofty scroll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km4wSES8TGA 14:45

[sullen tendon]

after world first of over just revert it to normal becuase the prices will be dropped by then and also no world first guilds will abuse it bythen

[unreal onyx]

sounds like we're going in a circle again

[lofty scroll]

we on there boys hahahah

[unreal onyx]

you want to give max ilvl gear to everyone as fast as possible

[sullen tendon]

yes

thosewho are willing to pay

[silver dawn]

We have 5 raiders who could use it on our mains who are killing heroic every week and I’m still the only one who has it in my guild. And that includes alts too! One in my entire guild.

[sullen tendon]

its not like handing out a 489 piece for doing a story quest

a mythic boe will cost you like 1.5 mil at the start of a raid

[unreal onyx]

not if they drop like crazy

supply and demand innit

[sullen tendon]

thats waht i said in theabove post limit it for the first few weeks during the race and then put it back to normal drop rate after world first is killed

the supply and demand will balance itself out

[clever path]

he said

[sullen tendon]

its not as valueable after teh first few weeks becuase people havehigher ilvl gear by that point so the price will drop naturally

[clever path]

"you can pretty much macro rampage and bt together and have 90% log"

[unreal onyx]

that would, quite literally make them cheap and handing them out for doing the story

[lofty scroll]

yup

[sullen tendon]

dude 500k for a normal boe isnt cheap

[unreal onyx]

this man sounds like he doesn't play fury

[lofty scroll]

no he mainly heals

[sullen tendon]

it will decline over time but a boe in week 5 will still be worth 100000s of of gold

[lofty scroll]

but i like Izen

[clever path]

yea it aint

[sullen tendon]

whats this

[clever path]

if judging from token scale, its a bit more than 1.5 token

[clever path]

thats how much it would cost to buy gold via illegal means

[plush acorn]

gee

[sullen tendon]

if people wanna spend40 dollars for a boe go aheadlol

[plush acorn]

tooo

ayyyyyyyyyy

[sullen tendon]

goldis gold

im selling it on the auction house not trade window

not my fault if blizzard lets a guy who bought gold buy it

[upbeat sentinel]

As if they ever ban buyers 💀

[clever path]

true

there is a whole discord that does stuff connected to wow's economy. Cross era gold exchange with their own rates and so on

fascinating fascet of the game really

[sullen tendon]

who the fuck playsclassic anyways

[upbeat sentinel]

Aren’t all the AH’s tied together now

[vapid river]

For most things

[upbeat sentinel]

Needs to be all things

Fuck gold barons gaining market control

[clever path]

Boomers

[sullen tendon]

should just make BMAH region wide also

guys alreadyabuse the shit out of it

[clever path]

Believe it or not a lot of dudes that I used to play Warcraft 3 and vanilla and after quitting mid cata have returned to the game , literally to the same shit they played when we all were teenagers

[clever path]

True you can buy a lot of stuff from there on websites too

Shit you can buy guaranteed transmog runs for hundreds

[sullen tendon]

bmah is a relic from mop systems

only thing they have done to update it is addnew items

[raw knoll]

Why do all my spears look like this

[sullen tendon]

holding your sword sideways

[clever path]

didnt you hear? they will

the ones that are currently goldsink till august are going to be in the bmah

[sullen tendon]

will what?

update it?

oh lol

yea

im just getting the helm polearm and qual sarar swords

fuck all that other shit

[clever path]

yea helm is bis

are the swords two handed?

[coarse nest]

Weak arms so it doesn’t pierce the ground

[sullen tendon]

no

SMF tmog

when they DEFNINITELY add the option in WW

give the love that warlocks get with pet customizations

let us do a questline to unlock one hander tmogs for fury

[fathom jetty]

hey boys need help. what do you mean about playing flame trinket and signet both in tyra weeks? ps: i dont have ocean

[sullen tendon]

dont know how that would work

but do it anyway

[sullen tendon]

augary and signet

[clever path]

What was the other rogue spec that is basically better smf

wanna do a rogue, never did rogue

[sullen tendon]

big ST damagerfor bosses

[sullen tendon]

combat rogue

[fathom jetty]

good option to play augary and signet at the same time?

[raw knoll]

ok so I just tested a targeted cast and it's a bug with @pulsar wing. Now I'm wondering if this has been a bug because now that I think about it spear hasn't been covering my feet in a while.

[clever path]

what is combat rogue

outlaw?

[coarse nest]

Yes outlaw

[sullen tendon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKHslylpXNg

[coarse nest]

It was once “combat”

[sullen tendon]

its funny that people dont remember combatanymore

i never thought we would reach that point

[clever path]

yo i am brainfart in wow multiclassing

[upbeat sentinel]

Is might of the ocean GOATed in M+?

[clever path]

i just leveled shamans because they felt cool

[sullen tendon]

yes

might is bis for any aoe scenario

[clever path]

i have deleted like 2 70 level warriors and 3 60 level ones

I remember i tried leveling a rogue once

it was so painfully slow because i couldnt dungeon spam

also, isnt rogues rotation like giga galaxy brain?

restealth and shit

shinobi bankai shit

[sinful spoke]

this is nothing lol

[clever path]

precisely brother

that was the point

[sinful spoke]

yeah

[cyan turtle]

i might give DH a try again since momentum is dead

[clever path]

like i am already mid and sorta getting on the higher end of things on warrior and dk tanking, but other than that i am total brainfart

[naive summit]

bloodthirst or execute in aoe

ik bb is better

[clever path]

like i have no idea what does any class besides warior lol

[oblique flower]

Does anyone have the nameplate weakaura for Tindral and or any other weakaura that helps remove lag please? 😄

[winter shoal]

https://old.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/193h6u1/graphics_optimizations_for_mythic_tindral_doc/

[oblique flower]

ty!!

[upbeat sentinel]

Are the follower dungeons good for leveling?

Or kind of a meme

[clever path]

where comes the similarity of warrior and combat rogue?

[summer quail]

fast pace target capped specs

[clever path]

but dont i have to do shit like restealth and it cannot be done in fight

and not being stealth = dead dps

[vapid river]

Uh

[cosmic lance]

Pretty sure outlaw doesnt really give a shit about restealths

[clever path]

oh nice

Again - i am not the brightest bulb with multiclassing

warrior 4 life

[coarse nest]

Not really no especially now that they ruined the spec by forcing Shadow dance onto it

[cosmic lance]

I dont know what sub/sin are like now

[acoustic furnace]

Outlaw isn't really galaxy brain but it's a lot of shit to keep track of and making a mistake early can butcher your DPS for the entire fight.

Idk ab other specs

[acoustic furnace]

Wrong entire rotation is based around it.

[coarse nest]

S3/4 SL will forever be peak outlaw idk how they top the blunderbussy

[acoustic furnace]

Enter stealth for Subterfuge so your BtE doesn't have a CD. Keep buffs up and pray for good rolls on roll the bones.

[clever path]

how does an orc rogue fit lorewise?

[warm crag]

stabby men

[summer quail]

just install hekili and it plays the spec for you. last time i played outlaw that shit was perfect

[acoustic furnace]

That's lame though

[coarse nest]

Outlaw is also similar in the way of press CDs on cd

[warm crag]

not really?

adr is a generator

[coarse nest]

The common thing I hear from our outlaw is “what cooldowns”

[warm crag]

yeah its full uptime

[acoustic furnace]

Yes really. You never hold CDs on outlaw because using your CDs makes your other CDs cool down faster.

[summer quail]

spongie typing 2 seconds before fyrakk pull

[valid willow]

is there a cheat sheet for the best timings for legendary on every boss?

[coarse nest]

Lorrgs

[clever path]

sooo

how orc can be rogue

and especially tauren lol wtf

[nocturne dragon]

Stealthy big boi

[silver dawn]

Tauren rogue is basically a meme come to life. Jokes about it for years.

[upbeat sentinel]

Taur rogue is a meme

Orcs as some kind of bloodthirsty assassin at least makes sense

[warm crag]

you literally do not press adr on cd

you hold it as a generator so you hold it a few seconds at most

[upbeat sentinel]

Garona existed after all

[clever path]

Garona was an orc? i thought she was a mage

[half cargo]

Half orc

[clever path]

didnt she meet khadgar in the tower and shit

[half cargo]

As the surname indicates

[clever path]

guest of medivh

[upbeat sentinel]

Half orc whose other half isn’t represented at all in her model

[unreal onyx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/816691704207638558/1104002637004820500/ezgif-5-6a34a884eb3.gif

I love that gif

[strange drift]

guys when do u use the fyralath in rotation ?

[vapid river]

Her eyes glow, obviously draeni

[thorny peak]

Y'all got anymore of them leggos?

[strange drift]

yeah i do

[unreal onyx]

pins

[upbeat sentinel]

Half Draenei is a major troll

Blizzard is incapable of making things that are halfbreeds where neither half is human

[vapid river]

I mean they can't even make dragons without making them human

[summer quail]

to be fair humans are just trolls anyway

[upbeat sentinel]

Idk what being half Draenei even adds to her lore that being half human wouldn’t

[summer quail]

they are from draenor. makes more sense for it be half draenei

[upbeat sentinel]

Should’ve just had a human time travel in with Garrosh

[molten relic]

She’s quarter human

[silver dawn]

She can’t be half human because she was born before the dark portal opened. And once they settled on that timeline they had to make her half draenai

[molten relic]

Since dranei is cow plus human

[silver dawn]

Wouldn’t have changed the wow timeline. Garrosh time travel was an alternate timeline

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah that part is stupid though

[silver dawn]

Much of WoDs lore is stupid.

[upbeat sentinel]

And led to the creation of an infinite but somehow incompetent legion

If you have literally infinity demons that cannot ever be truly slain if they’re in our reality

How do you ever fucking lose

How do you not just do scourge tactics of Zerg rushing cities with 100 million imps and shit

[silver dawn]

Make the respawn take resources and lots of time. Like daemons being banished in Warhammer

[upbeat sentinel]

It apparently does not because even rly rly big powerful demons come back over and over and over

[hardy cargo]

if you are within your stealth window you press it for cp, if not you hold it until adr buff falls off

[terse ether]

hmmm....

[upbeat sentinel]

Looks like you got some well distributed stats already sir

[terse ether]

seems so I do my friend 😄

[upbeat sentinel]

Is that a ST sim or AoE?

[terse ether]

ST with ST Talents

[proud crown]

Vers is always the answer

[upbeat sentinel]

Just run an AoE sim and pick whatever it says then. If they’re all virtually identical for ST, might as well let that tie break ya?

[terse ether]

I already know crit/versa will won

so it's between crit/mastery & crit/ versa then

but for science i will run DS

DS said Crit/haste. im losing my mind haha 😄

[final delta]

stupid question for the lego quest, how high can you stack the dreamleaf buff? 😮

[wispy thistle]

i cant believe how incredibly unlucky i am to not have the damn lego drop

[fathom jetty]

i feel you bro

[wanton mirage]

I always choose versa when there is tie

[proud crown]

id guess 5 since you need to be in a party

[wanton mirage]

Lil more tanky

[proud crown]

and stay in a party

[naive summit]

yo whats the dps increase on fyrlath?

compared to a 489 weapon

[still swift]

gear compare it

[proud crown]

was ~10k for me

[naive summit]

and what was the dps increase on ashkandur'

% wise

[still swift]

(gear compare it)

[glad coyote]

6-8 depending on dungeon

[fathom jetty]

wm+26 pala doing 85M overall with weapon

[terse ether]

I have my belt from previous tier ( crafted ) and still has socket on.

If I recraft to 486 I suppose it lose it's socket?

[wispy thistle]

@fathom jetty Im no mythic gamer but ive cleared heroic since you could get the drop and it just feels bad when others get it and you dont

[still swift]

yes

[wanton mirage]

Yes

[naive summit]

because i feel like ashkandur was more of a legendary than fyrlass lol

[still swift]

you're wrong

[naive summit]

do u know the % increases?

[still swift]

have u simmed it?

[terse ether]

4-5%

we are talking leggo right?

[proud crown]

yeah

[terse ether]

4-5% increase

[proud crown]

around that

[naive summit]

what was nelth weapon last tier like?

if u remember

[solemn lichen]

lol they changed the name of Spear to Champions Spear

my macro wasnt working and i was like whats wronggggg

[proud crown]

like 2%

I think

[terse ether]

yeah my macro got fucked up as well haha

[still swift]

why are you ignoring the sim question

[naive summit]

ah i see

[still swift]

can you explain

[naive summit]

can u sim nelth?

[solemn lichen]

i started mouse clicking and putting it down

[still swift]

ofc u can

[solemn lichen]

until like 5 bosses in i checked

lol

[naive summit]

idk if upscaling ilvl would fuck it tho

[terse ether]

and no, nelth weapon wasn't far better

[still swift]

as much as scaling anything else up would

[terse ether]

you forgot that the bleet was ST only and had no active

I mean, I donh;t like it

but it's there

[naive summit]

so yea the data would be fucked so i would rather know what it was last tier

[still swift]

nelth was humanoid only, st only, no active, there was basically nothing to it

[naive summit]

ah i see

[terse ether]

what's your beef with this tier's leggo anyway

[naive summit]

my beef

is that we were purposefully undertuned

so that we could be average with leggo and below avg without

so it doesn't feel like a leggo

[still swift]

but here I'll even do you the favors and give you a sim - 496 fyralath vs 489 ashkandur on st with my gear (im not well geared)

[naive summit]

if we were properly tuned we'd be blastin right now

[still swift]

(i upgraded both my weapons to 489 so you have a comparison vs 489

[naive summit]

going into fated will be cracked

is that ash vs human?

[still swift]

nah that's just ash vs normal, ash vs human is.. lets see, around the same

[naive summit]

but yea, in order for war to not be below average, all u gotta do is farm for 1-12 weeks and dump 300k+ gold and 6-12 hours xD

is that not fried?

[rotund ginkgo]

I MASHED MY FUCKING KEYBOARD SO HARD

[still swift]

gz

[terse ether]

gratz my d00d

[rotund ginkgo]

TY KINGS

NOW I CAN FINALLY DO

[naive summit]

grats man u can play the game now

[rotund ginkgo]

SLIGHTLY SUB OPTIMAL DPS

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[still swift]

unfortunately there's like no humanoids this raid tier

so ashkandur would just be worse regardless

[naive summit]

yea true

[acoustic furnace]

If I need combo points during stealth windows I do.

[hearty geyser]

gz! still zero leggos for my static

[naive summit]

like i dont think any raid has a human besides nelth on tier 2?

[still swift]

ff player detected

[naive summit]

tindral?

[hearty geyser]

bad guess, never played

[rotund ginkgo]

shit hurtin

[naive summit]

first tier has 3 humans i think

[proud crown]

wasnt sark humanoid

[naive summit]

is the elder a humanoid or like a giant?

[olive wraith]

Sark and nelth I think

[still swift]

sark should be dragonkin as all other dragons no

[naive summit]

tinrdal only human this tier

[olive wraith]

Rashok wasn’t humanoid I believe

[still swift]

rashok is giant

i bleef

[naive summit]

so nelth weapon really is just a 2% like 99% of time

[warm crag]

so you use it as a generator?? not instantly as soon as its off cd??

[olive wraith]

I mean it’s a free 2%

[naive summit]

yea not complaining

will be excited to duel wield leggo wiht semi leggo

what was jaiythys like last expac?

[still swift]

wasnt that the weird weapon that wasnt as good when fully buffed up

i heard some about that

[warm crag]

upgrading it to 4 instead of 5 can be a dps inc

[acoustic furnace]

Depends. If it falls off then it's on CD. If I still have it going into stealth windows it's a builder.

[still swift]

:kekl

[naive summit]

ah lol

that was the special weapon last xpac right?

oh wait

gavel

[coarse nest]

S2 SL

[olive wraith]

Get that piss talk out of here

Rogues stink

[fallen ginkgo]

ret too

[fast crest]

Is igira humanoid

[wary fjord]

I think she is giant

Weird that rashok is humanoid

[olive wraith]

Was rashok?

[wild mural]

yh

[wary fjord]

Tbh, ash should have done double to both humanoids and giants

Ye

Or just remove the giant type

Make all giants humanoids

[fast crest]

Oh aerwynn apparently is humanoid

[proud crown]

goats are people too

[fast crest]

Same with larodar

[chilly fractal]

I’ll tell you what’s weird Neltharion was a dragon - but wasn’t a dragon it was really an aberration or whatever. But Sarkareth was a humanoid but was a dragon

[edgy widget]

Evokers are humanoid

[wary fjord]

It's cause it was an echo of him

[proud crown]

fake neltharion

[wary fjord]

That's why nelth was aberration

[coarse nest]

Ion hid a projector in the arena

We didn’t actually hit nelth just air

[edgy widget]

Yeah, it was a fake nelth, but even in human form, he’s still actually a dragon

[wary fjord]

Also it was a void dude pretending to be him

Ye

[edgy widget]

Whereas Evokers aren’t actually dragons, they’re dragon like humanoids

Just like Tauren aren’t beasts lol

[wary fjord]

Dragonkin exist tho

[chilly fractal]

When evokers talk I hear “tweet tweet” like the dragons outside my house

[wary fjord]

I've seen dragonkin deer things

[edgy widget]

Dragonkin do exist, but Evokers are humanoids lol

[wary fjord]

Ye

[edgy widget]

There’s def some overlaps

[oblique trail]

I will not feed you any weapons

You will stay hungry

[wary fjord]

It would cause weird stuff to happen if otherwise

Pvp stuff

[edgy widget]

Yep

[wary fjord]

Like undead would be fucked by priests lel

[clever path]

Drakonid allied race when

[wary fjord]

Shackle forever

[clever path]

Dude big beefy drakonid warriors spinning the weapons would be sick af

[chilly fractal]

Twirling their batons like D3 monks

[forest owl]

did spear @pulsar wing macro break or something mines stopped working

[clever path]

Change rhe name

[storm rune]

name changed

[chilly fractal]

Name changed

[forest owl]

lul ty

[neat gazelle]

You’re telling me undead aren’t undead?

[edgy widget]

Forsaken are humanoid

[neat gazelle]

I know it was joke

[edgy widget]

Some are undead tho, blizz isn’t exactly consistent

[neat gazelle]

Because a lot of spells in PvP would be funny

[clever path]

Pally just one shotting any undead

[edgy widget]

If I had to give a lore reason off the top of my head, probably the more devolved feral ones are undead and those who still keep it together are humanoid

But yeah it’s basically just to keep shit workin smoothly

[atomic nymph]

Anyone have any tips on how to cope with progressing the first 50s of Tindral?

[chilly fractal]

They should all be humanoid… at least next season so Asscandy is more juicy

[oblique trail]

vibe

music on

mind off

fly

[chilly fractal]

Petition every boss is made humanoid

[edgy widget]

Watch tv on the other monitor

[edgy widget]

But yeah basically this, just vibe

[coarse nest]

It’s piss easy for us melee

Just afk until team gets it together

We finally hit platform 2 last night!

[edgy widget]

It’s a pretty chill fight for melee until y’all get confused and start taking each others orbs in the air

[chilly fractal]

Just dawned on me… outside of the incredibly unlucky or those that main swapped… Fury is prolly the only spec that’ll play with Asscandy next season

[edgy widget]

If they have Lego, yeah

[coarse nest]

I assume it’s probably similar for others but we do Compass with mini map

Mines always east

[edgy widget]

I’m not saying they aren’t assigned

Why I said “until y’all get confused and…”

Someone always gets turned around during prog

[atomic nymph]

It's been like 5 pulls and fingers are already itching to just start pressing cds

[coarse nest]

I mean yeah it happens lol

[young swan]

some people arent very good at spatial awareness and reorientation

or reading compasses

[edgy widget]

And ends up flying across the screen to steal the first one they see

[proud crown]

ive started calling them left right mid since there's always 3 in a curve

[edgy widget]

We actually had a hilarious pull where 2 people flew through an orb at the same time and both got the buff, both dealt dive bomb damage

And then we wiped to the other orb hitting the ground

[glad coyote]

@edgy widget can you message me your armory?

[young swan]

1st platform is cardinals and 2nd and 3rd are intercardinals

[coarse nest]

SMH ION

Damn it

[young swan]

"left/right/center" does nothing because its relative to your position

[edgy widget]

^

[summer quail]

wtf, those aren't real words

[proud crown]

i just base em off the mid

[summer quail]

[edgy widget]

And the feathers/orbs are in diff spots each platform

[proud crown]

of platform

[young swan]

yeah but

[coarse nest]

To my understanding the direction boss is facing at the time of orbs spawning dictates there position?

[young swan]

that is relative

to the direction you're facing

like it literally does nothing for the actual direction of the orbs

[final birch]

@clever belfry

[young swan]

unless if ur basing off of facing north in which case ur just doing cards/intercards but with extra steps

[final birch]

[fringe vale]

How much is the weight of rng in a parse? (Boss parry, good trinket procs) ? In % saying hm does a good cd and rotation output accounts and how much rng accounts for in %

[coarse nest]

If this is false then my guilds had me taunting every feather cast for zero gains whatsoever lmao

[buoyant cape]

is lariat > shadowflame for M+ with full sockets?

[young swan]

u can 99 by just playing properly

rng makes up like the last 1%

[hardy cargo]

in aoe sims like .5% better

very close

[slim coral]

it could define wtherh you get a 100 parse or 99

like last season's Sark trinket

[young swan]

outlier

[summer quail]

soon we will use it again

[young swan]

in general you can 99 by just playing properly

[hardy cargo]

im p sure fury only used beacon on like heroic reclears

[coarse nest]

Aug

[hardy cargo]

or if your guild was killing shit stupid fast

[young swan]

it was used on mythic kazarra too

[hardy cargo]

consistently across top 100? I wouldnt have expected that. but kazz does die pretty fkn fast so makes sense

[young swan]

10.1.7

which is like the only time kills were fast enough for it to be good

[drifting cloud]

how do i know stat weights if the stat weights on raidbots are not accurate ?

[summer quail]

you don't care

remove the words from your brain

[young swan]

or before people caught on that 2.5m cd big burst damage trinket was good on a 3min fight

[hardy cargo]

fastest my guild killed was 3m40

[past pivot]

Stat weights are not relevant. Stats are gear dependent. Sim your gear.

[north geyser]

what talent build do you guys use in mythic Igira btw? and do you do any kind of saving odyn's fury for spears or just rip it and just single target switch for them?

[tacit crag]

Mt raid build and you save pretty much every odyns for spears outside first set you use ava+roar on them

[wild mural]

we're bored as shit of this boss already

[olive wraith]

Of lines up pretty decent with spears

[tacit crag]

Intermission if you have odyns up when it starts I think you can send odyns and it'll be up in time for spears out of intermissions

[slim coral]

maybe if you werent making out in a corner

[coarse nest]

Maybe they need to do that more

[wild mural]

we're missing 2 ppl

[young swan]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cbRV1cfuLFTdWAb5tzAzg2 @sullen dove @eternal sundial

cant remember who else cared

[slim coral]

how do you sim to low

[coarse nest]

What are we caring about?

[young swan]

dont have simbait signet brand

[slim coral]

ah

oh

and that neck sucks

[young swan]

some people were pestering me for my sim last night

it has 1400 mastery it does not suck

[summer quail]

wheres your brh neck

[young swan]

in my bags

[slim coral]

put it on!

my 493 brh neck simmed better than that neck at 489

[tacit crag]

You need more mastery?

[sullen dove]

493 holy

[tacit crag]

493, insane pickup

[young swan]

i only have like 5.3k with runes

[wild mural]

493

[young swan]

4.7k without

[sullen dove]

o also missing 2 sockets

[eternal sundial]

YOOOO

[young swan]

need to replace other ring with crafted

[eternal sundial]

almost

[young swan]

again

biggest sim dps increase

is juist gonna be 7k sim dps trinket

[ornate gust]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4mvSMJLFFVRbni8TzMxeaA

[small dome]

does anyone know if doing LFR first then normal and heroic hurts my axe chance? how does it work

[summer quail]

oh ye your offhand has no mastery. makes sense

[tacit crag]

Is signet really simbait if logs show it's performing

Wouldn't logs show differently?

[sullen dove]

Yea I don’t think brand is uh… 7k above Rezans but prolly like 2 or 3 mayb

[coarse nest]

Yooo what’s the tech for 493 dungeon loot

[young swan]

augury and signet perform the same but signet sims 3k higher

[limber swan]

@dire badge

[fading bane]

man going on rankings after killing a boss is depressing

no legendary

no parse

gg

[sullen dove]

[young swan]

owned

[sullen dove]

fun game

[wary fjord]

Fun

[fading bane]

i love legendaries batchest batchest batchest batchest batchest batchest batchest

[north geyser]

mt means meat cleaver?

[tacit crag]

Yeah go aoe build

[fading bane]

multi target

[young swan]

@summer quail @slim coral

[coarse nest]

Meat tleaver

[young swan]

i need 9 million aspect crests now

[drifting cloud]

almos 481 and i only sim https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8kqtbWLMKz1ukZNjZfK8cj

i cannot find any upgrades in the m+ dungeons that are not from the great vault

[coarse nest]

Yes you can you’re not 483

[tacit crag]

Your trinkets are kinda woof

[summer quail]

bruh your weapon runes, AP and haste?

[tacit crag]

The accelerating trinket is awful st

[sullen dove]

upgrade rezans perhaps

[tacit crag]

And rezan's 467

[sullen dove]

sandglass is 483, rezan is what’s low

[drifting cloud]

i am running sim with all diffrent but dosent show that some other is simming higher

[tacit crag]

Right mb meant rezans

[wary fjord]

Your wrists also only 476

[sullen dove]

If u have extra sparks crafting second ring would be big

free socket

lol what

who was bro talkin to

[odd star]

do highest difficulty you're able to once per week

[drifting cloud]

i currently have 2x sparks to craft with

[slim coral]

you have diff sockets for both sims

[young swan]

thats fine

it literally doesnt matter because this sim includes everything the other sim did

[slim coral]

also it's becuase you have those trash rings

'no DHT ring

[young swan]

u mean

bis ring

• random ring that happens to have socket + mastery

[slim coral]

that blue ring aint bis

[wary fjord]

To popout homie

[slim coral]

that shit sucks for stats

[clever path]

Can we have raging blow emote?

[young swan]

its fine

it has mastery

[summer quail]

crafted would prob be better no?

[oblique trail]

[slim coral]

yeah but it has 1k crit basically