fury

[sullen tendon]

I thoght this was condemn for a second

[sinful spoke]

It is

[coarse nest]

??????

[ember apex]

👀

[fluid cedar]

Why tf would we have to take spear to get to condemn

[spiral lodge]

guys, what is better weapom craft? Primal Molten Greataxe? I have two 483 =/

[inland flame]

I mean who would wanna execute above 80 without a spear to stand in?

[merry pivot]

condemn being there would make more sense than what's currently there

a talent that is never taken

[sullen tendon]

idont know but it looked like it

[rich void]

not condemn

[inland flame]

Blast! Trolled by the icon team again!

[unreal onyx]

what's condemn

[sullen dove]

rip

YO

WAIT

WTFG

[unreal onyx]

kinda large

[sullen dove]

easy yoink

[unreal onyx]

bit signet myth

[sullen dove]

dupe

[unreal onyx]

[sullen tendon]

imagien if trinkets could still besocketed

[unreal onyx]

would be more weeks with semi-useful vaults

for sockets

I need 2 more and am done

(I will get one tomorrow)

[cosmic lance]

I had to take a socket this week. All my options were dps losses in aoe and like 0.2% ST

[sullen tendon]

i remember a bug in emerald nightmare that dropped my guildy some trinket with 3 sockets

[winter shoal]

I'm down so bad without elvui

[wicked flicker]

fyr'alath just doesnt fucking exist

[coarse nest]

That noice

[wicked flicker]

im literally just logging in to kill fyraak every week at this point

[thorny cove]

https://i.imgur.com/vi6B3Eu.png hmmm

[sullen tendon]

default UI stays winning

[calm mantle]

Main got cucked on vault again, no myth weapon, no augury, no brand

[thorny cove]

soulspun casque is bis stats isn't it?

[winter shoal]

Neck is good for arms

[oblique trail]

It's technical off-piece bis yes

[calm mantle]

Shhh no

[coarse nest]

Ring kinda pog

30% vers gang

[calm mantle]

I was considering but theresno way to fix my other stats and haste would drop to like 25

[coarse nest]

25 haste is actually pretty normal

Sim has me at 25%

[calm mantle]

I'm enjoying 32%

[regal kestrel]

Question, I already have 2, 486 crafted weps, should I still go with the Axe or go by the sims? I can upgrade the axe to 483.

[eternal sundial]

why would u take an ilvl downgrade

[thorny cove]

noticed my spear of bastion macro was a question mark and immediately remembered they changed the name 🤣 🤣

[coarse nest]

No do not drop ilvl

[regal kestrel]

Ok. thank you

[ebon venture]

at which point does the lariat become better than the shadowflame in regards to amount of gems you are running?

[coarse nest]

Whenever sim says it’s better

[oblique trail]

On ST it'll never be better

[coarse nest]

It will most likely be better in aoe

[oblique trail]

As for AoE, you could reliably use it when you're full sockets

[coarse nest]

Btw, can we sim aoe yet?

Or still borked

[ebon venture]

do you guys know how does the helm enchant scales with ilvl? trying to see if i drop a 483 with a socket vs a 489 without one. but sim is the same pretty much for both

[compact knot]

literally only missing lego, mythic augury and brand, and boe boots

then im like full bis pretty much

zzz

[sullen dove]

if its same makes enough sense socket is usually 800-1k dps i think

[marble scarab]

Why bliz gone and changed the name

[sullen dove]

so idk you theoretically would get the 489 and socket later

[coarse nest]

I would always take ilvl

[marble scarab]

Why is my ability now called champion might

[coarse nest]

Can take sockets later like swordish said

Might never see that 489 again

[unreal onyx]

max ilvl = max helm enchant dmg

[coarse nest]

But you will always be able to take socket

[pulsar mason]

That was their big change to warrior

[unreal onyx]

finally, warrior rework

[coarse nest]

Great tuning

Much needed

[sullen dove]

aw man this shits borkin

im pretty sure i replaced the words right?

whys it fuckin

[marble scarab]

champion sword

[stoic star]

Is it a bad idea to do Heroic Fyrakk with a bunch of people that can get the legendary? Or can more than one person get it at the same time.

[sullen dove]

more than 1 can get it its fine

[vale reef]

am i insane or is anyone else simming for like 12k less than there were before 10.2.5, with legendaary

[sullen dove]

are you in st spec

[winter shoal]

link sim

[vale reef]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jbiw8Dw87Ky6jr2p9rXFgW

[winter shoal]

everyone's chance is individual

[sullen dove]

spear is missing

[stoic star]

Awesome thankyou. Still doing heroic full clears before killing Fyrak

[sullen dove]

either raidbots end it doesnt know its renamed or youre using old talent build where its called spear of bastion

[vale reef]

yeah raidbots is scuffed, i have spear

but they renamed it ingame

[coarse nest]

/simc is probably borked in game

[oblique trail]

Spear isn't used

That's why

[calm mantle]

Do you guys socket helm or ring first?

[oblique trail]

Also change to latest simc version

And check again

[coarse nest]

Doesn’t matter really I would do helm though

[oblique trail]

And don't use weekly in general

[vale reef]

that was with nightly

[coarse nest]

Or witchever item is max ilvl

[unreal onyx]

personal loot, comp doesn't matter

[oblique trail]

That's not nightly

[stoic star]

Do a bunch of us still not have it?

[unreal onyx]

yes

[coarse nest]

If you change a few letters it actually reads “nightly”

[vale reef]

i swear to god mine just said nightly, then i refreshed and it went to weekly lmao

[upbeat sentinel]

You tell me

[stoic star]

That was from today?

[winter shoal]

HUH

[upbeat sentinel]

Na 2 weeks ago

[unreal onyx]

where's the "You receive item:"

[sullen dove]

also why is rage of fyralath doing twice as much as mark in your sim is that normal?

i thought mark was like all of the damage

[upbeat sentinel]

You’d have to scroll up 😦

[stoic star]

Was it after a full clear?

[coarse nest]

Text missing probably because patch day

[upbeat sentinel]

Na an AOTC seller run

[oblique trail]

On ST the on-use is the biggest component

[stoic star]

Well prayge we all get it soon. I don't go for CE anymore so ill get it when I get it but still excited either way

[sullen dove]

what the frick im on nightly

[oblique trail]

Try latest

[winter shoal]

Everyone realizing that roar has been the way all along

[vale reef]

yeah, latest works but it still lower than what it was last week.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qxssiLJvEP968r33drZrjv
last week, without a gem that I just got for like 1000 dps. I should be like 245k all things even

[oblique trail]

I don't remember exactly when it happened but around a week ago there was a hotfix to the legendary on sims

[unreal onyx]

nice belt gem

[oblique trail]

yeah okay

it helps putting a gem in the socket

[coarse nest]

Banezi

Lmao

[oblique trail]

Aside from that, the hotfix lowered the sim by a bit

[coarse nest]

[sullen dove]

legendary havers sim lowering

good

[coarse nest]

Large no Lego haver

[stuck bison]

legendary reduces damage confirmed

[coarse nest]

Finally we can stop using the active

Let’s gooo

[stoic star]

I have a shit ton of crit. 35% with phial.

[thorny cove]

anyone else getting a details lua error in chat constantly?

[sullen dove]

ye

[sterile basalt]

at what point should i focus on getting haste? im sitting at 64% mastery atm and was wondering when you hit the DRs on it

[coarse nest]

Whenever sim tells you to equip something else

[oblique trail]

There are no specific %'s to reach, or swap stats around at

Top gear sims on raidbot tells you anything you'd want to know regarding stats

[thorny cove]

man I kinda wish you could use your catalyst charges to untier a piece feels kinda bad turning a piece to tier and then getting a new piece and old piece would be better as not tier

[oblique trail]

Well

It matters quite little in all honesty

If you're 5 tier pieces or 4 tier pieces and 1 off piece

Unless your stats are very wonky as is

[thorny cove]

is there a "true bis" setup with 4 tier and 1 off piece?

like either from raid or dungeon

[oblique trail]

There is

Tier shoulder chest gloves legs + AD Helmet

[calm mantle]

So I simmed Signet vs myth weapon 5 minute 1 Target, Signet 7.7k , weapon 3.2k. Changed to 3 minutes and it's Signet 4.2k and weapon 3.2k still. So do I upgrade from my champ weapon and take the steady increase and prepare for mythic prog this week or take the signet?

[oblique trail]

Or Gnarlroot legs instead and Tier head

[fast crest]

gross... absolutely slapped on vault

[thorny cove]

ok I should 100% take myth track ad helm from vault then 🤣

[serene rover]

hello all! i was wondering how yall above 480 are adjusting your stats. im having a hard time finding anything about when a stat is gaining too many diminishing returns. thanks!

[sullen dove]

why no work

[thorny cove]

I have rook pants too which is similar stats to the gnarlroot legs but guess I would have to sim everything

[coarse nest]

We use raidbots and equip what it says is best

[warm crag]

sim top gear

[cedar edge]

Augury isn't real

[oblique trail]

Does shift clicking spear into a macro change the way its putting the name

Outside of that no clue why it's not working

[thorny cove]

is myth track gorehowl bis weapon besides fyr'alath?

[serene rover]

@warm crag im pretty new to simming are you just plugging in different pieces and resimming?

[arctic stone]

Corrupting rage uptime on sim?

[covert blaze]

no macrotoolkit pepelaugh

[sullen dove]

85

[coarse nest]

I could not get known to work for the life of me so I just put
/cast Champion’s Spear
/cast Thunderous Roar

[thorny cove]

https://i.imgur.com/Ld55JtM.png

[sullen dove]

do that work ig it would?

[coarse nest]

It works but doesn’t show icon for witchever one you have as second line

[sinful spoke]

no axe

[unreal onyx]

doesn't matter too much, then it is just secondaries that fit you the best in oh

[covert blaze]

too far

[unreal onyx]

as long as it's 489

[fast crest]

elvui update rolled out

[coarse nest]

Macro toolkit!? (Would be nice addon)

[serene rover]

so on the top gear sim, is it just whatever is listed at the top?

[unreal onyx]

link the sim

[coarse nest]

The summary page after the sim completes will highlight the pieces it wants you to equip, it will display them on the character panel towards the top of the page

[covert blaze]

very cool addon

[serene rover]

@coarse nest i keep getting an error on too many iterations when trying to do belts and rings, is that too much?

[sullen dove]

warrior saved

[oblique trail]

You're likely picking too many gems and enchant variations

[coarse nest]

If you’re not premium you can’t really do a lot of items at the same time

[oblique trail]

Or too many random pieces of gear that wont matter

[coarse nest]

Premium lets you do up to 16million iterations

[sullen dove]

iterations is a useless buzzword tbh

combos r more normal

[slim coral]

anoter week no lego

[unreal onyx]

I happily give money to the people that make my blue parses possible

[slim coral]

can they give us a dinar this point

[slow haven]

anyones elvui not working?

[slim coral]

can't wait for earth abilities to be unspeeable

[unreal onyx]

at least you can now somewhat see ground abilities that are blue/white

looking at rasz

I really didn't do m+ this week

I have 1 m+ slot and 3 hc raid slots

surely I get rewarded for that

[north edge]

Can’t wait to get axe on my third alt tonight

[sullen dove]

wait why is belt catalyze literally identical to larodar belt already

[north edge]

Seems to be the only thing dropping

[sullen dove]

2 more crit 2 less haste

[restive peak]

Got the tank trinky at 489 at least, we got any idea how solid this shit is for M+? I know it's decently strong

Oh our sims are broken, wtf?

I lost like 11k DPS in the past hr lol

[unreal onyx]

skill issue

[restive peak]

It's true, also no leggo again

Def a skill issue

[unreal onyx]

[oblique trail]

Use Latest

And not nightly

it fixes it

[restive peak]

I actually just don't care anymore, we get CE tn or tm and I'm legit chillin after that

Thanks bruh

[oblique trail]

It's because Champion's Spear isn't fixed yet on Nightly

[restive peak]

Ahhhhh right

[sullen dove]

cant macro known either

[unreal onyx]

we almost made it to pre-nerf tindral P3

so we basically would've killed it with 100 more pulls

[ember apex]

my guild broke platform2 shield and thats basically it but that was 2 days of prog

[restive peak]

That's pretty good for 2 days of prog

[ember apex]

im the worst player in the guild by far and im performing really well on this boss specifically so we're able to prog like a normal guild

i also had cheat death trinket and died last always

[warm crag]

just plug in the stuff you have in top gear and if you wanna know what upgrades to shoot for do a droptimizer

[misty helm]

Friendly reminder to change ur Spear of Bastion macro to Champion's spear!!!!

[fast crest]

hopefully i don't get swapped out now that you don't need 8 melee lol

[warm crag]

if you wanna know abt super specific gearsets you can try gear compares aswell

[sinful spoke]

no

[spiral lodge]

guys, what the best weapom for craft?

[sinful spoke]

i dont wanna

[sinful spoke]

none

[tepid scroll]

Another week and no lego. Time to go back to enhance

[oblique trail]

If you have to make a weapon, any strength weapon apart from the mace from Aberrus with an on-use

Or passive

w/e it is

[sullen dove]

ok this macro works

throw out the known for spear and just set it for TR first, itll roar if u have it, if not spear

[feral quartz]

do you guys do a full fresh hc clear for some ember drops or skip straight to hc fyrakk

[clever belfry]

"ABILITY"

[oblique trail]

I'm lazy so I just go straight for Fyrakk

[sullen dove]

its my ability bro

what else do i call it

ROAR OR SPEAR

ULTIMATE MOVE!

[clever belfry]

Roar/Spear

[sullen dove]

hell no

[shell furnace]

so i got mythic augury.. and mythic accelerating sandglass.. easy choice?

[sinful spoke]

my alt got it

[sullen dove]

augury if u dont have it ya

[sinful spoke]

my main got its 3rd socket

[shell furnace]

i have heroic

[sullen dove]

like 483

u mean?

[shell furnace]

i have 483

[sullen dove]

even sitll tbh there are better trinkets than hourglass

[slim coral]

[sullen dove]

might as well get the ilvl bump on augury

[feral quartz]

imagine pulling smolderon and wondering why spear didnt go off in your opener

[shell furnace]

the ont in vault would be 489

[sullen dove]

bro didnt learn on volcoross or nymue???

or u just skipped ig

[spiral lodge]

ty

[misty helm]

New tswift dragon riding glitch

[feral quartz]

nah i havent done any of them im just memeing skipping straight to fyrakk

[sullen dove]

just remove the known for spear and add a second /cast infront of it

works well for me at least

[feral quartz]

this one works for me i did a dummy to see the new visual and just swapped the name out

[chilly fractal]

my sim DPS dropped over 10k from last week hmmmm

[sullen dove]

use latest build instead of nightly

sim doesnt know spear is in the game

and got changed

[feral quartz]

the spell id didnt change just the name

[sullen dove]

o

wack

[feral quartz]

im referring to the macro not sure whats going on with sims tho

[oblique trail]

Nightly sims haven't updated yet, Latest have

That's the only thing

[fringe vale]

why is my elvui broken and not working

[oblique trail]

Since Nightly still looks for Spear of Bastion

Which technically isn't in the game anymore

[slim coral]

I just go to fyrakk

people have gotten the lego and I full cleared for 3 weeks and sitll don't have it

so I just stopped farming heroic

[sullen dove]

2 lessers first 6 bosses

[slim coral]

yeah so worth pog!

for a 0.1 increase drop chance!

[sullen dove]

ffs automod

yep

[hollow ridge]

just did a full clear to fyrakk in heroic and I havent gotten a single lesser ember surely that means I get it guraenteed

[sullen dove]

[snow edge]

What have I borked to cause a 9k DPS delta here; I must be going blind, can’t figure it out https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o91bBt2qpxL8gCkFWpfUiN

[urban coral]

should I use my spark to make double shadowflame embellish and drop my vers wrists for single target?

[molten relic]

Spear is bugged on sims

Bc they changed the name

[oblique trail]

Change to Latest

[merry raft]

wait i'm going through the same thing

[oblique trail]

Change to latest

[merry raft]

Oh really

[oblique trail]

=)

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[spiral oasis]

Your new main*

[merry raft]

Didn't even know there was a latest option now thanks

[snow edge]

Luckily the new spear animation is so good, worth it

[oblique trail]

The colour matches the class

And the performance of said class

[misty helm]

horrid looking ability now

[oblique trail]

Very poopy!

[sinful spoke]

it doesnt have axe

cant do it yuet

[misty helm]

They couldve atleast updated the icon too

[oblique trail]

They did for Piercing Verdict Challenge

🐀

[serene rover]

how do i get the best gear sim to replace gems with which ever gem is best?

[oblique trail]

Look above the enchants section and tick the "replace existing gems/enchants" box

Also just pick Vers/Mastery combo gems, and mainstat + mastery gem while ticking "always use"

[urban coral]

should I use my spark to make double shadowflame embellish and drop my vers wrists for single target?

[oblique trail]

If you want to

It's technically ever so slightly better for pure ST

[dapper goblet]

very quirky spear color change

[molten relic]

myth track AD helm from vault

we take those

[ember apex]

oh pog u can catalyze and ummm redo helm enchant

it scales off helm ilvl i heard

[coarse nest]

Yes

[spiral oasis]

The axe isn't real but nice try

[sinful spoke]

💀

el no sabe

@spiral oasis

[spiral oasis]

Nice photshop dude

[valid violet]

Guys

ay i ask you sometihng?

[coarse nest]

Shoot

[valid violet]

do i lack some of stats?

or is this fine?

[coarse nest]

Looks fine

Sim yourself though to be optimal with what you have

[valid violet]

for me it feels like clumsy rotation between Bloodthirst, Bloodbath, Whirldwind and stuff

[plush juniper]

I think your question is a little off. Most decisions about stats are based off of simming

[valid violet]

yeah i know about simming

[plush juniper]

Gotcha

[next spindle]

definitely lacking stats if there's no socket on helmet or bracers /s

[valid violet]

but i thought i need to have some some breakpoints

[coarse nest]

Clunky as in slow or?

[plush juniper]

Youre saying that youre waiting for gcds sometimes?

[valid violet]

yes

@plush juniper exactly

[coarse nest]

Shouldn’t feel that slow

[plush juniper]

Not having something to push every gcd is something some warriors this tier complain about. But i do not experience it that often

[coarse nest]

I’m at 25% haste and almost never have empty globals

[valid violet]

i mean it could also be that i do the wrong rotation

i mean 2% can change much, no?

its always outside of avatar / recklessness

[coarse nest]

No you probably just need to do the prio a little better

Could share a log

[next spindle]

i mostly encounter this problem if I delay BT for an empowered BB, else I don't usually have this all too often

[plush juniper]

You might be over prioritizing rampage

[valid violet]

wait i iwll check if i have something relevant to show

[oblique trail]

This is a rotation issue

[barren dagger]

it's odd that you have haste enchanted on rings

[oblique trail]

In ST it's very infrequent if done right that you'll have empty GCDs

In AoE it's slightly more frequent but not to any really noticeable extent

[plush juniper]

I agree with Banezi

[valid violet]

okay so i think i might do something wrong

i play warri now for like 1 1/2 IDs

[plush juniper]

I think reviewing the rotation priority might help

[valid violet]

and i have also a second question. actually i play afenar UI on all of my alts. But it feels like it is super slow while updating "procs" and stuff

do you have some good alternatives?

[lofty apex]

you know how to disable lua errors?

[oblique trail]

A rule of thumb to follow is BT - X - BT - X - BT and fill out X with any other button that makes sense

And if you're at 80+ rage, enraged and can both BT and Rampage, instead use BT first then Rampage. This isn't really needed however if you're in Recklessness

[valid violet]

IS BT=BB?

[oblique trail]

BT = Bloodthirst

[valid violet]

yes

okay i guess i dont have BT that often, most of the time i see BB

[lapis lion]

impossible. lua errors are a part of your life forever now

[valid violet]

sometimes it feels for me like afenar ui showing different stuff to action bar

[lofty apex]

💀

[oblique trail]

Sorry typing between pulls

[valid violet]

dw, i have time ^^

[oblique trail]

But yeah, Bloodthirst and Bloodbath is in essence the same. You can replace BT with BB in the above priority I put

Just as long as you BT every 2nd global you'll experience downtime a lot less

[valid violet]

Most of the time i wait for rampage and then i fill with slam or ww

but then i still have to wait for rampage

[compact knot]

did they change the bad capstone for spear to the condemn icon

brother

[valid violet]

feels so clunky

[compact knot]

you cant be fucking serious

LOL

[paper ivy]

Season 2 won?

nice

i thought t31 was way ahead

how did season 2 got so many votes

[lapis lion]

how in the fuck do i get a vault with 0 upgrades 2 weeks in a row

fuck off

[chilly iron]

just change the icon color in photoshop

[clever escarp]

ah spear i hate it

[valid violet]

how do i post a log here?

coming from rogue discord and we use !log

[olive wraith]

Just post the link

[sinful spoke]

no flame bro

this just just as the ingame effect

poop particle

[chilly iron]

🙂

[oblique trail]

There's #449510248579858432 for logs

[dire vigil]

I came here hoping that everyone got their axes… 😭

[oblique trail]

Although it sometimes takes a while depending on when you post it for people to respond to it

[dire vigil]

I’ll anxiously await HC fyrakk clear after mythic prog tonight.. 🙏🏼

[crystal summit]

nope, just killed him again and no axe

next week for sure TM

[valid violet]

i asked, they told me to "just post the link"

sorry

[rich void]

do the lesser flames count towards the current week or following?

[fast crest]

another week no axe no augury

[oblique trail]

Nothing to apologise for

Just for future reference

[olive wraith]

First 20 seconds and your prio is a bit off

Opener is off too

[valid violet]

mhh

i guess i have to fix my ui...

and then try to do a log again

[golden pike]

since week 4

[olive wraith]

I hate you

[fast crest]

must be nice x_x

[wanton mirage]

Rude

[fast crest]

not even a pity vault for me

[valid violet]

how can i fix that?

[olive wraith]

Sorry might be a bit slow I’m at work. General rotation prio is fit bt/bb every other gcd. Bb>ramp>ex>bt>slam>ww

Opener is rek-charge-ramp-of-spear/roar- (bb-ramp) till rek falls off

[sullen dove]

lower ilvl than me leggoless

[sinful spoke]

i hope u never get leggo!

[oblique trail]

I'm .01 ahead of you

You're both beneath me

[wanton mirage]

you are making a wrong turn , buddy.

[valid violet]

ty, screenshot

[valid violet]

why? i just play warri as alt ^^

[oblique trail]

You're missing Avatar here

[olive wraith]

Oh fuck I am

My b

[valid violet]

avatar when odyns fury avatar fells off?

[olive wraith]

Avatar 4 seconds after Of

[valid violet]

yes

[olive wraith]

Ya

[valid violet]

ty very much

and now i need a nice warri weakaura ui :]

do you have any prefered ones?

[wanton mirage]

then you are good

[valid violet]

yeah playing devastation and warri as alt looking good for me 😄

to have some cooldown from playing sub 😄

[sinful spoke]

atrocity one

[slim coral]

I'm climbing

Soon to be number 1

[olive wraith]

I just use Luxthos

[valid violet]

i will check that, i dont like it for rogue or evoker.

[olive wraith]

Honestly it’s basically just the first one in the list so that’s what I ended up with

[valid violet]

somehow i have issues to find other ones 😄

nvm

[nova lintel]

surely next week right fellas

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-cry-laughing-meme-gif-27654463

[dapper goblet]

same

[clever belfry]

noobers

[sullen dove]

dont remember shamans being able to loot embers

[slim coral]

we're all in the same boat

[olive wraith]

S2 voters have to wait 2 weeks minimum for leggo

[dapper goblet]

i'll gladly wait 2 weeks for 3-4 months of good gameplay

[valid violet]

Okay sometimes i have to click rampage bt slam bt rampage is this right?

[lapis lion]

then whyd you vote for s2

[sullen dove]

"good"

[dapper goblet]

because i'm not a freak

[sullen dove]

yea

[sour frigate]

just go mythic lol

[nova lintel]

im 3/9, im not the best tbh

[young swan]

if you arent pressing reck you pull you would definitely hit bt first

idk why u would ever hit slam first

[oblique trail]

BT can enrage you

[young swan]

slam cant enrage you

[sour frigate]

i wish they made exe give enrage

😦

[oblique trail]

We already have basically 100% uptime of Enrage

We don't need more

[sour frigate]

i have some drops this tier

s2 was surely 100%

[granite frigate]

is there a rule of thumb for legendary usage in m+ or is it always trash

[oblique trail]

But you don't have drops of Enrage when it matters

[young swan]

try to use it for funnel on big targets

prob the best usage you'll get

[oblique trail]

Slowing spiteful

With whirlwind cleave

[sour frigate]

[granite frigate]

isn't the damage split

[sour frigate]

4k rio move

[granite frigate]

so it doesnt funnel anything

[oblique trail]

Well you can't talent piercing howl

so wcyd

[young swan]

yes thats why u position yourself so it only hits the target u want dead

its a frontal cone

just aim away from the pack

think its a 6yrd range

[granite frigate]

did anyone do tbat on stream

or just theory copium

[young swan]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2030551900

[past pivot]

Imagine playing warrior and not knowing about hamstring. A signature talent since vanilla

[granite frigate]

interresting thanks

[olive wraith]

Hamstring cleave spiteful is so good

[dapper goblet]

bad btw

hate you

free 25k dps

30mil key damage

[crude ridge]

Welp another weekly no lego gang

Though I did see someone get one in the raid

[sonic magnet]

papa bless vault for my lazy ass

[sullen dove]

🫡

[timid pawn]

ayo

[sullen dove]

worse than augury

[dapper goblet]

hate it here

[timid pawn]

i got mirror lol

[clever belfry]

🪞

[past pivot]

Should have taken socket

[dapper goblet]

🪞

[timid pawn]

mirror or a myth shoulder hmm both are myth tho

[red dirge]

Is it worth doing LFR still even if we do heroic

[clever belfry]

new mirror emoji lore just dropped

[calm swallow]

3m CD tho, I hate that mirror >_>

[timid pawn]

is mirror really bad?

[past pivot]

Only for Augury

[clever belfry]

it's good

[red dirge]

IM talking leggo

[timid pawn]

really contemplating

[calm swallow]

Its chunky but that CD is wretched

[past pivot]

It sims well. But otherwise, yeah. 3-minute cd

[final birch]

genshin impact 戰鬥準備 gacha paradise 祖先的祝福 gambling healthy 盛宴攝取 westerners made poor 勝利之愛

[past pivot]

Nope. Highest difficulty

[clever belfry]

so true king

so true

(do not get banned)

[final birch]

dw I disabled it

[red dirge]

it doesnt give a ember still?

[timid pawn]

bro it even says replace my pip. i think normal signet doesnt sim well but does well

[final birch]

for now

[clever belfry]

[fickle bluff]

literally 1984

[clever belfry]

me when i cant do weeklies

[golden pike]

boooo

[clever belfry]

cause i got banned for funny WA

[past pivot]

Highest difficulty counts all your blp. any ember is cosmetic after that. I mean I got an ember when I got my leggo

[oblique trail]

Mirror is dookie if you already have Might

Do NOT fall for it

[clever belfry]

L

[red dirge]

what ilvl is the leggo imma run a sim -_-

[oblique trail]

There is no L

creature

[golden pike]

496

[clever belfry]

That's grand coming from u, creature

[oblique trail]

Hf desyncing your trinket with your CDs because you have to use your CDs after 2 minutes of using them

[oblique trail]

That's grand coming from u, scalie

[clever belfry]

how tf do you desync a 180s trinket with 90s cd

Basic math king

[oblique trail]

Oh true

[timid pawn]

i have a might but its champion gear

[oblique trail]

This game is entirely based on the theoretical

Practical implications hold no weight

[clever belfry]

If u sit on your ava reck longer than 20s in a key you have trolled

🤷‍♂️

[timid pawn]

was planning to replace my pip tho hahaha

[oblique trail]

I will pop my CDs while I'm running between packs

or on a tiny 1 critter pack

[mossy fox]

idk sometimes the run to next pack forces that anda

or maybe you dont wanna ava a nearly dead pack

[upbeat sentinel]

Can def make the argument for holding it 20s or more on tyrannnical for harder bosses

[past pivot]

There are at least 6, maybe 7 better trinkets for M+ than Mirror

[stuck bison]

eggshell

[clever belfry]

Ok so say you use
0 - cd+trinket
110 - cd
200 - cd+trinket

how does this lose you anything
yeah u sit on mirror for 20s
but u also sat on your other cds

there's no desync

you're not holding for mirror

you're holding mirror

[subtle raven]

@clever belfry stick to the scaly class lil bro

[past pivot]

Just holding Mirror is bad luck.

[clever belfry]

Frfr

[oblique trail]

Mirror per use is stronger than Might yes

[clever belfry]

Mirror is mainstat trinket, might isnt
therefor might unbased

[upbeat sentinel]

Fuck an on use trinket

[oblique trail]

But you get 2 uses of Might per 1 use of Mirror (in theory) that is active for each CD window

[clever belfry]

👑

[upbeat sentinel]

How we gonna have an on use trinket and an on use weapon

IT HAS TO END

[timid pawn]

mirror gives you big dam on big pulls i guess but thats about it

[clever belfry]

or you have along walk like in throne and u get more mirrors comparatively Holy Moly

[oblique trail]

I will make you walk the plank above Throne of the Tides

[clever belfry]

u can dislike mirror for not being up every reck ava
but there's no actual desync issue that exists

youre making that up

[oblique trail]

I'm not making it up

[clever belfry]

maybe dont macro /use 13 into your ramp king

[oblique trail]

I'm not

king

What insane individual macro's their trinket in current Fury to anything

[compact knot]

wait good idea ty

[clever belfry]

very fine to macro night or mirror to reck

[upbeat sentinel]

Me

I do it

[oblique trail]

Apart from Avatar because either you already use it before Avatar, or you're using it with Avatar if you didn't before it due to what buttons you have ready

[compact knot]

i macro might to reck

[past pivot]

Augury is better than Mirror. Might is better than Mirror. Crab is better than Mirror. Ember is better than Mirror. Gore is better than Mirror. Pips is better than Mirror. Signet could be better than Mirror in the right circumstances. Branch might even be better than Mirror.

[final birch]

what about rageheart

is it better than mirror

[upbeat sentinel]

I can’t hear you over my macro that does all my cds, my trinket, and a potion

[final birch]

and spikes

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[unkempt stone]

ight i swapped some crit out for mastery lol. I cant reduce haste though since its on the gear i have

[clever belfry]

I think macro on ava makes u complacent and will lead to "oh forgor" for first part of roar, one OF and a BT

[dire badge]

[clever belfry]

macro it to reck cause u press that before

[oblique trail]

It has not once for me

[clever belfry]

making shit up again...

[compact knot]

i just dont want to use mirror because then i kinda have to think when i use it in keys

i dont want to think

[golden pike]

I dont understand @edgy widget , why is wow head guide overall BIS doesnt include leggo

[oblique trail]

Because it's a given that it's BiS

[compact knot]

made before it was even a thing

[past pivot]

Leggo is a quest reward

[upbeat sentinel]

Because most of us won’t have it

[past pivot]

Not a boss drop

[oblique trail]

Your entire existence is make believe to me right now

[unkempt stone]

its pushed up lol, but how are my stats for Fury?

[upbeat sentinel]

We’re all in a simulation

[compact knot]

need more mastery and less hate

haste

[upbeat sentinel]

We’re part of some aliens DPS sim and he hasn’t started his rotation yet

We’re in for a wild ride

[unkempt stone]

yeah id have to swap some pieces around to reduce haste lol

[compact knot]

more mastery/vers, tiny bit less crit and alot less haste @unkempt stone

[pulsar turtle]

Soooooo should we be doing raid finder then normal and then heroic for Lego chance?

[lapis lion]

no. just heroic

[pulsar turtle]

For embers?

[clever belfry]

i could be an AI to shitpost in dps warrior spec channels for all u know

[past pivot]

No

[clever belfry]

uve never seen me type or play irl

[upbeat sentinel]

Just do highest difficulty for lege. Only do lower difficulties if you need pieces

[oblique trail]

Very elaborate AI to also show me Genshin screenshots in DMs

[pulsar turtle]

Doesn’t up the chance at all?

[clever belfry]

I am state of the art

[pulsar turtle]

The embers

[past pivot]

Plus, do you really need it spelled out that it's the best weapon you can get?

[olive wraith]

Run a top gear sim. We don’t aim for specific %

[oblique trail]

👑
🤖

[lapis lion]

No. If you do heroic you get the blp and chances from the lower diff

[pulsar turtle]

Gotcha

[golden pike]

i mean stat distribution wise, means that every other piece of gear is probably wrong on the list is my issue

[timid pawn]

but not the embers

[oblique trail]

It's the highest ilvl weapon in the game

[upbeat sentinel]

Sim

[lapis lion]

the heroic ember takes care of that

[oblique trail]

There is no better alternative

[upbeat sentinel]

If you have lege, sim

And see if it’s wrong

[past pivot]

The list is for silly people. It's a general guide not a Bible to follow.

[timid pawn]

i dunno its just copium at this point i got mine and i started late

[lapis lion]

there is 0 gain, ember or otherwise, to doing lfr > n > h

congrats on highrolling

[clever belfry]

that's not their point

[oblique trail]

no I realised 0.5123 picoseconds after I hit enter

[pulsar turtle]

Also are we trolling in m+ if we send odyns fury on a 4-5 pack over tank pulling in another 4-5 pack in like 10 sec?

[past pivot]

But there is a waste of time doing it that way

[clever belfry]

kingus, apologise rn

[clever belfry]

i posted optimal kill order earlier

[oblique trail]

I apologise for pinging you with a needless message

[upbeat sentinel]

Never admit you’re wrong king

Double down

[clever belfry]

go search 7/9 in here

[pulsar turtle]

I assume odyns should be ideally sent when packs are at max amount yeah?

[upbeat sentinel]

It should ideally be sent on CD

[clever belfry]

just like some orange man

[oblique trail]

🗣️

[olive wraith]

If packs are gonna die in 2 seconds sure hold it

But generally push on cd

[pulsar turtle]

Ehhh, I’m confused because in m+ it’s the only place I could see my damage weirdly lacking. Should we be using bloodbath prio on lower targets unless need to kill evenly?

[clever belfry]

🔊 ➡️ 🔉

Banezi speaking

[upbeat sentinel]

MUTE BANEZI

[clever belfry]

no

[oblique trail]

🔉 ➡️ 🔉

Anda speaking

[pulsar turtle]

Obviously I will try and prio it but idk if it’s reallly bad to not always prio bloodbaths on lowest targets for % increase

[clever belfry]

its the wl player speaking gif

[upbeat sentinel]

I wanna @ archi to mute him but I’ve already meme pinged archi like 7 times

[humble plover]

dog ass vault bois next week for sure

[clever belfry]

but no gifs allowed

[golden pike]

The thing is right, people who only kill Fyrakk on Heroic are just snorting copium that blizzard is actually doing the right thing by giving you the increase % of Leggo, for all we know doing Heroic Fyrakk only gives you Heroic drop chance, then 3 months later they'll say "lol we fucked up soz"
Doing LFR Fyrakk and Normal Fyrakk takes 15min

[upbeat sentinel]

Feel like I’m testing date

Fate

[clever belfry]

do it

[upbeat sentinel]

Bet

[lapis lion]

yeah ok

[past pivot]

15 minutes wasted

[clever belfry]

acquire god

[lapis lion]

i'll just waste my time for no damn reason assuming every system is broken behind the scenes

[oblique trail]

Idc if I only have to use 15 minutes to do LFR and Normal Fyrakk I'd rather just save my mental and time and not do it

[dapper goblet]

can right click him on the right and do it

[olive wraith]

I only do lfr and normal for aug

[lapis lion]

i decided to start doing n fyrakk again for the drakeriding manu and wiped 3 times to people dropping shit on roots and never went back

[clever belfry]

i log on
play some keys
get depression
log off

[olive wraith]

They will take increases damage even if they’re not your target (assuming meat cleaver hits them)

[clever belfry]

ok

[golden pike]

"SaVe MY MEnTaL n TiMe" its right click and kill on lfr. if you're doing heroic fyrakk you should prob be able to just help and get top dps on it

[clever belfry]

[olive wraith]

You gotta wait in Que and kill tindral first

[oblique trail]

What does this have to do with anything

[clever belfry]

bro is saying that like heroic fyrakk takes more than 3 fingers and lukewarm iq

[oblique trail]

I don't want to sit in LFR DPS queue for it

I don't want to look for Fyrakk normal groups that decide I'm finally worth inviting at 7/9M and 488 ilvl after 20 minutes

[lapis lion]

but he highrolled and got it on 12/20 obviously he's right and you're wrong

[clever belfry]

[golden pike]

you're obviously doing something incredibly wrong to not beinvited with 488 ilvl to any normal

[oblique trail]

Idc about how difficult it is

[clever belfry]

i wish i was as good at looting

[lapis lion]

LMAo

this guy

[oblique trail]

I just don't want to do LFR or Normal if I don't have to lol

[lapis lion]

banezi just apply better 4head

[clever belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036569490416214027/1062684236437524490/skillissue.gif

[olive wraith]

You get instant invites to normal sure. But you also assume it’s a 1 shot

[snow edge]

Imagine applying wrong

[olive wraith]

Pugs be pugs you never know

[oblique trail]

The twist is that I do Normal anyway

Because I don't have anything higher than LFR Augury

[snow edge]

What a noob Banezi

[clever belfry]

holy!!!

[clever belfry]

noob

maybe loot better??

[oblique trail]

yeah maybe I should

[lapis lion]

hes looting wrong and applying wrong

[sullen dove]

game is bad...

[oblique trail]

and I will in 4 hours + the amount of time it takes for me to wake up

[lapis lion]

eddykrueger is so clear of this guy

[sullen dove]

theres no saving it...

maybe... next... week...

[clever belfry]

s3 voter detected

opinion rejected

[sullen dove]

player detected; ignored

[young swan]

?

[dapper goblet]

based

[clever belfry]

show augury

[dapper goblet]

he got it

[clever belfry]

i know

[dapper goblet]

well now you konw

because i told you

noobis

[clever belfry]

i totally didn't know

[clever belfry]

hours ago when he posted

his vault

nono

[dapper goblet]

😏

[clever belfry]

impassible

[clever belfry]

i have 489 crab
noob

[young swan]

holy fuck

[golden pike]

upto you, keep believeing blizzard is a big company and can do the right thing by you for having LFR and Normal included in Heroic Kill

lmao

keep coping boiz

[young swan]

u can dragonride underwater in vashjir

[past pivot]

You silly person

[clever belfry]

holy moly

playable zone

[young swan]

this is forbidden technology

[clever belfry]

[young swan]

we must not tell blizzard

[clever belfry]

Blizzard will remove the fun

[young swan]

u can now get to throne of the tides in record time if ur portal is down

truly gamebreaking

[fickle bluff]

holy

[sullen dove]

you can take off there? or you have to swim into there

[clever belfry]

just dont deplete instead maybe

[young swan]

ur dragon gets thrill of the skies when ur flying into the whirlpool lmfao

[clever belfry]

🥦

[dapper goblet]

dragon

💀

[clever belfry]

dwagun

:3

[oblique trail]

Catfacing

owo

[young swan]

show orange stick

[clever belfry]

[dapper goblet]

dont need orange stick on 3rd alt

[young swan]

cries about it

doesnt need it

curious

[dapper goblet]

bad weapon

according to color names in skyhold

[clever belfry]

U need orange stick so u can finally do within 30k of your enha

[noble elm]

What are you guys simming around 486 without leggo?

[dapper goblet]

@sudden tusk enjoy the 1h-7 day timeout bud

[clever belfry]

new roidstack just dropped??

[noble elm]

Nah diff dude

[sullen dove]

o it lets me whirling surge

but cant use the 1 vigor abilities

[past pivot]

Why we unequip leggo?

[clever belfry]

Bro take me back to early 2010s

[sullen dove]

or... or... he's asking people that dont have the leggo maybe?

thoughts?

[sudden tusk]

we are moving our wednesday raid to today for ranking reasons

so i have to wait til tomorrow to do a sale run

for lego chance

[oblique trail]

232k with vers flask because I'm no crit flask coper

[sudden tusk]

[oblique trail]

(I'm also 488 almost)

[noble elm]

I don’t have the leggo, trying to get a sense of what folks are seeing. I simmed a few people on wcl

[sullen dove]

236k with crit flask cuz i am not a pussy

[clever belfry]

me and the boys logging onto mw2-bo2 after school gg

[oblique trail]

BO2 went hard

[noble elm]

I’m simming 230k with crit flask, 489/483 weaps and Aug/brand

[summer quail]

classic

[oblique trail]

Didn't have xbox live when MW2 was in its prime..

[noble elm]

Felt low ish but I simmed a few other people and it came out close

[clever belfry]

when warrior long arms

[oblique trail]

never

[clever belfry]

die

[oblique trail]

please

[clever belfry]

spell id 7

[oblique trail]

got it macro'd to BT

[clever belfry]

king

Do not /use 7

[oblique trail]

I've walked into fire beams on Tindral to use abilities and I would have hit at a safe distance if I had long arms

gg

[fickle bluff]

that caught me off guard

[clever belfry]

he checked spell id 7 on wowhead

[past pivot]

FYI. if you have a spear macro, update the name:
#showtooltip Champion's Spear
/cast [mod:shift, @cursor] Champion's Spear; [@player] Champion's Spear

[clever belfry]

die spear die

[sullen dove]

too many words

this works fine

[past pivot]

Doesn't do the same thing

[sullen dove]

[summer quail]

champions spear xD

[sullen dove]

what happens when shift + the button spear is set to is also its own keybind

[hybrid karma]

don't put it on a shift keybind ez

[sullen dove]

[hybrid karma]

[rugged hornet]

did ppl actually vote for S2 setbonus for S4?

[past pivot]

O people voted for it

[oblique trail]

did ppl actually vote for S(x) setbonus for S4?

[jovial helm]

Yeah cause it's better

[clever path]

Gaming

[rugged hornet]

lies

[silk otter]

Hey guys, how good is fury right now? Is it decent In M+?

[clever path]

If u want to get invited to keys dont play warrior

[silk otter]

Wanna take a back seat from tanking this season

Oh

[past pivot]

Better than decent, not meta

Zack is full of it

Or just bad

[olive wraith]

Don’t play anything other than dh, resto Druid, rogue, fire mage, aug, bm, demo

[clever path]

^

[silk otter]

Wait a minute

I only see 2 melee classes there

[still sinew]

is the Branch of the Tormented Ancient a Sim Trap? I have a normal Cataclysmic Signet brand and a Hero track Rezan's Glearing Eye. Sims say that combo is better than equipping a 489 Branch!? Are the sims wrong on this?

[olive wraith]

Surely no other class can do anything past 20

[clever path]

Nope

Everything else only under 20

such a shame

[past pivot]

No warrior can get above 1800 IO

[clever path]

but its the rules

[fickle bluff]

a 489 branch probably beats a nm signet yeah

oh you mean its not

[olive wraith]

Also depends what kind of sim you’re doing

[clever belfry]

S(x) is a function and maps values from one space X to another space Y
would u please define the function

[fickle bluff]

in 5 minutes maybe

but youre gonna need long fights for that low of a signet

[still sinew]

the sim says the 476 normal signet beats a 489 branch

[oblique trail]

please stop making me face my blunders I am not about to give you a linear function

[clever belfry]

S(x) = x would be highly appropriate here, though

[final birch]

x is overall amount of warriors and y amount of warriors that rerolled to aug

[still sinew]

I'm doing the normal 5 min patchwerk single target sim

[mild kraken]

Am now officially last melee in the guild to not have legendary :frow

[olive wraith]

You only get 2 uses from branch. And signet cranks st

[clever path]

Skill issue

[clever belfry]

ur guilds melee have it???

[oblique trail]

you have made me have to argue for almost all of what you've asked of me the past hour

I'm tired so I am on my guard!

[olive wraith]

Signet is probably better

[clever belfry]

so true oompfie

[silk otter]

In all seriousness tho, Is arms any better or is warrior just suffering rn? I've mained warrior forever so I'd say I'm decent at the class, can do 23s but I just wanna know if I'll struggle finding groups

[mild kraken]

Yeah everybody on the token has it

[fickle bluff]

in 5 minutes you get 3 branch's

[olive wraith]

Isn’t branch 230

[thorny cove]

welp another week of depression no axe, no signet, no augury

[clever belfry]

We have none and we killings fyrakk tomorrow, based

[fickle bluff]

yeah
0, 2:30, 5:00

[clever path]

I'm the only melee in my guild so far who has it

[olive wraith]

The sim ends at 5 minutes doesn’t it?

[clever belfry]

branch will look horrible on 5min sim

[violet condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710135526744653834/1179178230138286131/image.png?ex=65b96fce&is=65a6face&hm=7794c22e5e252b50d3454402c2774712220adb0d657711c816a2a0862c33567f&

[clever belfry]

no

[mild kraken]

You want a cookie lil bro?

[fickle bluff]

it ends from anywhere like 4:30-5:30

[clever belfry]

5min sim is 4:30-5:30 on normal settings

[clever path]

Ope someones angry

[clever belfry]

normal distributed around 5 with sigma 10s i believe

[past pivot]

Arms is struggling. Fury is solid but not meta. You'll get in and get 3k easily enough but won't be meta and pugging can be painful at times but doable.

[olive wraith]

Anything not meta or much higher io than the keys you’re applying to will take a while to get invited. That’s just dps problem. This week might be a touch harder since it’s afflicted

Both arms and fury are about equal in m+ I think

[silk otter]

Ah I see, sounds like I'd be better off tanking

[balmy shore]

i actually don't want the legendary

contrary to popular belief

[clever belfry]

real, questline is ass

[past pivot]

It may be mutual 😄

[stark zealot]

Same. Unless...

[olive wraith]

You can tank if you want. But both dps specs are perfectly capable of doing 23s

[red berry]

i still haven't gotten a mythic weapon out of vault

[olive wraith]

Guess it’s time to craft one

[clever belfry]

no

[olive wraith]

How many sparks are we at now?

[clever belfry]

do not give in

[hybrid karma]

25 is also fine

[stark zealot]

Same and only one myth track 2H has dropped in raid and I didn't get it

[olive wraith]

Oh ya for sure 25 is fine. I only said 23 cause that’s what he referenced in his original question

[hybrid karma]

oh yeah didn't see that

[scarlet kraken]

tindral is a joke now post nerf holy

[silk otter]

I'll give it a try for a few weeks and see

[hybrid karma]

if you have some friends that play in that range it's also easier to find keys that way

[silk otter]

Yeah it's a personal problem, not good enough to do 25s yet

[red berry]

if crafting weapons did not cost 2 sparks

which is still so

stupid

[olive wraith]

What else are you using sparks on

[hybrid karma]

yes 2 sparks

[olive wraith]

I think we have a surplus now right?

[plush juniper]

on mythic Nymue, should I Avatar earlier to get faster uptime on it for the add rather than opening with Odyns Fury? I am in the group that goes back first

[red berry]

i was going to craft lariat for shits and giggles since i have the sockets now

[past pivot]

2 rings, 2 wrists, cloak and a neck...

[red berry]

i still don't have 483+ necklace, so

[fickle bluff]

idol of the spellweaver

[olive wraith]

2 wrists wth

[past pivot]

Allied wrists and shadowflame.

[olive wraith]

Fuck making both. Too lazy for that

[past pivot]

I have the leggo and a 489 from Vault. Not much else to spend sparks on.

[olive wraith]

Well in that case sure

[stark zealot]

I did allied wrists, cloak, neck, ring, engineer helm for brez in m+

[olive wraith]

But if you don’t have a myth weapon I think I might craft one

[past pivot]

Yes, I agree at this stage

[olive wraith]

Do you have hero weapons at least?

[red berry]

yeah

you can farm hero so

[balmy shore]

weekly screenshot share

[olive wraith]

I guess you could always just sim what to craft

Next week for sure

[balmy shore]

y-yeah

!

[past pivot]

It'll be worth the effort once you get it.

[balmy shore]

i don't want it anymore

[red berry]

it feels like too much fucking effort for a weapon that isn't even that strong for a legendary

[junior shore]

Do 2h weps still require 2 sparks?

[red berry]

yes

[junior shore]

Kk ty

[thorny cove]

what's best leg enchant

[silk wharf]

The one with armor

its either frosted or fierce. I can never remember which. but the one with armor

[past pivot]

Primary stats + vers sims better with leggo. For me at least

[thorny cove]

oof nvm I'm too poor to afford the good enchants lmao

[low folio]

are you considered in combat during the flight phase of tindral for signet stacks?

[hard widget]

Frost is technically better since u run Armored to the teeth, which gives u some mainstat for the armor on ur enchant

But hp makes u live one shots

[clever path]

Fierce armor best choice

[thorny cove]

ya I just chose fierce cuz it's the cheapest 🤣

[clever path]

177 main stat either way, 100 stam or 100 armor is super negligible

[hard widget]

10 extra mainstat

Not bad

😄

14 actually

[thorny cove]

I mean if you care about 10 mainstat you would min/max your racial too 🤣