fury

[hearty surge]

Idk why everyone hates warrior

[weak tartan]

becuase its the optimal one

[fringe flame]

i liked Arms in legion with Fervor of Battle and WW spam instead of Slam

[dapper goblet]

yeah so add that to the list of why bfa stinky

[hearty surge]

You are talking like its different for other classes

[sly cloud]

new changes good for fury? or bad?

[trim solstice]

i like s3 more

[dense elbow]

New?

[summer quail]

nah i meme, i love warrior

[snow edge]

There are no changes

What the heck

[young swan]

the only reason i said i missed it is because of the copypasta...

[oblique trail]

spears name and visual got changed

[young swan]

was a good time for copypasta's

[oblique trail]

very big changes

[young swan]

..

[snow edge]

Oh true

[hearty surge]

When archi didnt ban anyone for posting frogs

[snow edge]

Good or bad then

[hearty surge]

was a good time

[weak tartan]

enjoy it while it last. personally I dont hate it, I just prefer season 2 one

[oblique trail]

Spear still looks like shit

so neutral

[summer quail]

we complain about CM not EM now

[snow edge]

Neutral change, the best

[young swan]

spear unironically looks like a pile of poopoo now

its hilarious

[dense elbow]

Can we now see under the spear?

[summer quail]

the poop spear

[dapper goblet]

spear visual means it will be here next expansion

and still be awful design wise

[sinful spoke]

no

[sullen dove]

stand in the dogshit to represent our class

[sinful spoke]

its even worse

JHAJAHAHAH

[dense elbow]

It is bad then

[warm crag]

reroll rogue?

[young swan]

wish they would just nuke it from orbit

[dapper goblet]

i'll be playing w/e is good

[young swan]

and give us bote

[sinful spoke]

bro

remove spear

[sullen dove]

bro playing sanlayn dk

[sinful spoke]

give us banner

[young swan]

no

bote

[sinful spoke]

necro banner

[young swan]

bote better

[sullen dove]

bring back ancient aftershock

[warm crag]

give us bote

[oblique trail]

Do not add banner

[sinful spoke]

wtf is bote man

[oblique trail]

delete it

[young swan]

we like bote

[sullen dove]

blood of the enemy

[warm crag]

silence all of you

[sullen dove]

also peak

[sinful spoke]

oh

[dapper goblet]

i peaked in EP

[sullen dove]

gimme azerite beam

[hearty surge]

Give us

[young swan]

same..

[dense elbow]

Banner was very warrior tho

[hearty surge]

endless stacking execute again

:)))

[warm crag]

they sure will design a boss like that again

[sinful spoke]

REAL

[gilded patrol]

i didnt get to play s2 so im kind of stoked

[dense elbow]

You deserve yellow, if you push that through

[sinful spoke]

theyre gonna remove sam acc votes

[hearty surge]

Man I dont even want yellow

[sinful spoke]

be ready for s3

💀

[hearty surge]

Who would want to be yellow

its pee color

[young swan]

yellow is not something to desire

[warm crag]

rogus very powerful

[dense elbow]

Red then?

[dapper goblet]

more freedom being brown

trust me

[olive wraith]

Poop>pee

[hearty surge]

now I prefer to be poop colored

[oblique trail]

I will defeat spongeuwu the next time we meet on the fields of battle (m+)

[dense elbow]

Give us 99 stack DMG jugg, I will give you red text name

[warm crag]

bring it on (i play outlaw and my flat damage graph is better than your spikes)

[hearty surge]

How much do you do

in a everbloom

[warm crag]

dunno i think ive done one ever on yellow man

[oblique trail]

You have no idea how crazy my flat damage graph will be in S4

[warm crag]

i voted + manipulated for this outcome

[oblique trail]

Curse you

[hearty surge]

Critcake manipulated this outcome

curse @mossy fox

[warm crag]

who do you think is pulling the strings

[clever path]

Bro wild ping

[dense elbow]

Used his dev and CM contacts

[hearty surge]

Probably garms ngl

[summer quail]

gromnak

[hearty surge]

Gromnak is not here anymore

:(

[warm crag]

hey @tidal kindle I would just like to formally thank you for providing me with the most optimal build for Mythic Progression in this Raid, and I thought it would be a good time to share with the class
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/fury/DARFFUVRVlRBEVAkBABQCVENVVVVFYBFURiQQA
Looking forward to building with you again next tier @tidal kindle

[hearty surge]

@vague reef

[warm crag]

its clearly jürgendumm

[hearty surge]

Jürgendumm doesnt exist anymore

[dense elbow]

We all know Archi manipulated everything. His vocal S3 support was all a smokescreen for his S2 agenda.

[hearty surge]

he is a thing of the past

[sinful spoke]

real and tue

[warm crag]

where is jürgendumm

are they safe

[hearty surge]

He banned all the s3 voters

[warm crag]

are they alright

[dense elbow]

rip S3 voters

[hearty surge]

Just faked support for it so they would reveal themselves

then banned them

[olive wraith]

I’m still here

[dapper goblet]

i already have a list of the people who voted season 3

[dense elbow]

Another double agent

[dapper goblet]

you do not want to be on this list..

[dense elbow]

I voted S1, I am safe

[hearty surge]

I hope anda is on that list

[dapper goblet]

anda is a strong soldier

hes not on the list

[meager void]

#MakeFurryS3Again

[hearty surge]

Hes a strong soldier

he fought off against the archi chat ban

and came through

stronger than before

[olive wraith]

You mean ironwall

[dapper goblet]

💪

[hearty surge]

Bro I swear

imagine not being able to use groupfinder

because youre chat locked

and still doing your weekly keys

[dapper goblet]

he's a strong soldier

and a freak

plays aug willingly too

so crazy..

[oblique trail]

[nova garnet]

I didn't even vote, because it doesn't matter

[hearty surge]

He boosts me in keys on monk

Im happy

[warm crag]

anda is so powerful

[dapper goblet]

so you've never watched the futurama episode

[warm crag]

i am in his prescience rotation

i dont know why,

i #fightback

[dapper goblet]

having /cancel aura in all your buttons when aug came out

[oblique trail]

#showtooltip
/cast Bloodthirst
/cancelaura Ebon Might
/cancelaura Prescience

[dapper goblet]

good times

[oblique trail]

you're welcome

staple rotation macro

[dapper goblet]

no coperoni and cheese

my damage went down when aug came out

remove it

[warm crag]

put this in the one button rotation

infinite money

???????

[oblique trail]

Augs are furious

[sullen dove]

cowfarmers knows the way 👑

[dapper goblet]

cowfarmers will save warrior

[dark elbow]

Shouldnt you do the cancellation before the ability just in case it buffs your damage

[dapper goblet]

need him to have connections with blizzlords

[nova garnet]

I don't care which set of wins

I'm fine with all 3, no strong feelings towards any

[dark elbow]

I want to make sure that aug suffers

[dapper goblet]

so you've never watched the futurama episode..

[nova garnet]

I've seen em all

[dapper goblet]

mhm..

[nova garnet]

I'm okay with all 3 sets

So I'll abstain

[hearty surge]

Aug should get season 1

its just stats

xd

[nova garnet]

Why do people hate aug

Just don't play with it if you don't like it

[olive wraith]

Because they ruined m+

[nova garnet]

They didn't ruin shit

[oblique trail]

Unhealthy spec

[dark elbow]

It just gives buffs and all their damage is just us doing their damage

Lazy fcks

[nova garnet]

Okay, and?

Don't bring one

How many of you are title enjoyers anyways?

[dark elbow]

[olive wraith]

They take up a dps spot

And everyone wants one

[oblique trail]

I can not influence my raid leaders decision enough to make them not be brought

[nova garnet]

You play a fucking warrior

[warm crag]

i have a title (the one that is now free as of 2 seasons ago)

[nova garnet]

Go play another class then

[olive wraith]

Okay?

We’re fighting for 2 spots instead of 3

[dapper goblet]

we didnt run augs this tier apart from 1 on fyrakk for reasons

#downwithaug

[oblique trail]

Our one night without an Aug was heaven

2bad that they solved their technical issues and was back in next raid

[nova garnet]

Yeah fighting against classes people want.

[hearty surge]

Wdym

You always want 1 warrior

[dark elbow]

[nova garnet]

Like dh, mage, warlock, boomkin,

[hearty surge]

just be the only one in your guild

and you have free raidspot

[feral walrus]

do you guys think blizzard rigged this or eu had some sketchy sutff going on? season 3 obviously should have won

it was winning by so much

[nova garnet]

We talking about m+

[dapper goblet]

no sketchy business

fair voting

[oblique trail]

yeah grrr hate blizzard rigging votes

[nova garnet]

And how Aug is bad because they take up a DPS slot

[feral walrus]

are you european ?

[dapper goblet]

can just abuse the amount you vote

[hearty surge]

Oh, dont do that as warrior

its pain

[dapper goblet]

i'm from freedom land

[nova garnet]

That's what I said

[full viper]

Does this work? I do less damage with Aug because they clawback more than they actually add. I noticed it in my logs. If no Aug in raid, I parse better

[olive wraith]

I mean warriors were invited last season pre aug

[hearty surge]

I am trying it

[nova garnet]

Bro is whining about augs. As a warrior

[hearty surge]

and its pain

Im already at the point where I need to look for 30 minutes to get invites

[dark elbow]

No Maximum and Critcake videos came out and people voted after most likely

[oblique trail]

The macro works but you really should NOT do this in any progress oriented scenario

[hearty surge]

and im just at 26s

[olive wraith]

Now community thinks aug is mandatory for everything

[nova garnet]

His opinion is just shit. If you wanna complain about what other classes are being brought. Go play one of the good ones.

Good

[feral walrus]

its weird man season 3 was so far ahead and suddenly season 2 wins? :/

[nova garnet]

Aug is fun to play

[full viper]

Progressing on heroic so I think doesn’t matter.

[nova garnet]

It's good utility, and makes keys easier

[dapper goblet]

wouldnt say it was so far ahead

[nova garnet]

Warrior is just meh

[warm crag]

i mean it p much is for everything pinnacle

[nova garnet]

And isn't special

So is your problem Aug existing, or warrior being shit

[open prairie]

aug sucks when im trying to do weekly vault fills

[dark elbow]

Daring takes on a Warrior discord

[olive wraith]

Nah last season was more diverse pre aug

[nova garnet]

If warrior was #1 hardcore would you still care?

[open prairie]

and the other dps in group sucks

[valid moon]

Best m+ trinkets?

[oblique trail]

Go kill Uber pinnacle boss Sirus and get an Aug evoker (aura bot) to make you live every meteor and degen

[warm crag]

FUCK!

[nova garnet]

Let's say every key needed a warrior

Instead of aug

We should nerf warrior right?

[dapper goblet]

remove raid buffs

[full viper]

I hate Augs. When they do zero damage they blame the other DPS. When they do good damage they say it’s because they are skilled and play Aug well.
So many fellow brothers have lost their raid spots to Augs

[nova garnet]

True

[feral walrus]

i think warrior is doomed in season 4 with the s2 bonuses :/ unfortunate

[young swan]

i mean objectively the meta was the healthiest and most diverse its literally ever been

[warm crag]

i killed uber uber elder and he dropped a watchers eye and the other thing and i couldve sold it for 60 divines but i idd and now i have 3 divines worth of items thoughts?

[young swan]

and then aug fucked literally everything

[hearty surge]

Aug is actually one of the most difficult classes to play well in raid

[nova garnet]

It's just cringe to be like "I hate Aug"
Why
"Because it takes up a DPS slot"

So does havoc 🙃

[oblique trail]

I think you should reconsider peace and tranquility then go get the 60 divine drop again

[young swan]

cant really make the argument that its had a positive impact on the game

[open prairie]

tbh i just hate

[nova garnet]

There are good reasons to hate aug

And bad reasons

[young swan]

real

[warm crag]

i do not care for i can go do 2 (two) jungle valleys and recuperate that loss

[open prairie]

how beyond boosted aug players are

[nova garnet]

This is a fucking shit reason

[open prairie]

most have 0 clue whats going on

at any given time

[hearty surge]

Imagine not getting duplicate mirror drops this league

Yikes

[full viper]

They just follow the other dps around and take a % of their damage. Not hard bro

[oblique trail]

Executie moment

[nova garnet]

Havoc players this season

[hearty surge]

Are you trolling?

[feral walrus]

TRUEEEEEEE aug players are bonobos

[young swan]

please stop

[warm crag]

not all of us are executie..

[dapper goblet]

i hate aug because i hate the buffing aspect of the game

[hearty surge]

If you think aug is that in raid

[young swan]

aug is legit the hardest spec to optimize in raid

[dapper goblet]

dont like raid buffs dont like other buffs

[hearty surge]

then you are just stupid

[nova garnet]

Fair and reasonable.

[warm crag]

please try aug in pinnacle raid content before you shittalk them

[dapper goblet]

[oblique trail]

shut up and give me attack twice totem

[nova garnet]

"I hate augs because it makes DPS slots more competitive" shit reason to hate Aug. Good reason to change classes.

[dapper goblet]

ok

[dark elbow]

Delete AUG, Delete raidbuffs, Delete PI

[open prairie]

idk with havoc honestly

[nova garnet]

Delete healers

[open prairie]

havoc is either boosted bonobo or never played

[nova garnet]

1 tank 4 DPS future

[nova garnet]

Chimps

[oblique trail]

Upper Kara MDI

[upbeat sentinel]

Delete it

[olive wraith]

Augs literally made the meta more stale

[warm crag]

cant wait for the banezi house raid mdi

[sullen dove]

tbh last season aug was kinda just prescience uh dk on pull and then just a pumper the rest of the fight and almost guaranteed legendary logs every fight

[open prairie]

i have an alt one and idk how people suck at it

genuinely

[olive wraith]

How can you refute that lol

[nova garnet]

That's the issue. There has always been 1 class that was needed.

[sullen dove]

now that they got kneecapped this raid you have to actually kinda try to be good on them

[oblique trail]

It's one of the new delves comming in war within

[nova garnet]

Right now it's aug

In BFA it was shroud class

[upbeat sentinel]

Delete rogues delete evoker delete paladins

Buff warrior

[nova garnet]

In shadowlands fuck it I know LOL

[open prairie]

hot take

m+ title shouldnt be acc wide

[feral walrus]

rogue harder than warrior unfortunately

[hearty surge]

It is?

Idk

[upbeat sentinel]

Easier to delete

Fuck em

[open prairie]

the title is acc wide yes

[full viper]

The thing about Augs is that nobody knows how to evaluate them

[nova garnet]

M+ title should be spec wide. Calculated only against people who've earned io in each spec.

[feral walrus]

undisputedly

[full viper]

Created so much issues in WCL

[upbeat sentinel]

That just punishes people who spec swap based on what’s best on a week

[hearty surge]

idk, I played both and I think both are just fast paced simple rotation speccs

[nova garnet]

I'm okay with this.

[hearty surge]

Idk which one is harder

both seem fairly easy

[open prairie]

bare minimum should be role only

i.e dps specs in a class

[nova garnet]

Fair, I just don't wanna see survival hunter

[open prairie]

do any classes even spec swap

[hearty surge]

Hard disagree

[open prairie]

based on affixes

[nova garnet]

Being comparred against havoc

[hearty surge]

I would be fine with a m+ title specifically for speccs

[full viper]

SV hunter could be a converted into a support class

[hearty surge]

and then one for overall

so people who want to play the highest keys arent punished

[full viper]

Hunter mark sniping

[nova garnet]

Idiot tryhards that won't go god comp

[terse idol]

Rogue might swap per dungeon but not affix

[hearty surge]

but specc wide ratings will just be god comp - 1 spammers

not much change

wont do much

[open prairie]

barely dungeon

[oblique trail]

yeah I swap to Arms on sanguine weeks because tanks live in pools

[open prairie]

i only hear people swap off outlaw for tyrannical fall last boss

[oblique trail]

mortal wounds value 📈

[open prairie]

where benzaispin

[warm crag]

i swap to arms and intentionally kill totems in atal dazar and waycrest so i can claim top dps by technicality

[oblique trail]

lvl 65

in valdrakken

instead benzaidh reawakened

[terse idol]

I can't imagine any other classes even come close to swapping based on anything

[oblique trail]

and instantly yoinked a 483 weapon (not double time) from first vault

[hearty surge]

You actualy do

[open prairie]

dh is fun, sometimes i get meleed

[warm crag]

why not double time?

[open prairie]

off one immo aura tick

[hearty surge]

as aug you specc devestation in high tyrannical waycrest

on tree boss

[oblique trail]

Because I am not skilled enough at looting the items that which I seek

[full viper]

I only swap to Arms on tyran weeks for priority damage and bosses

Full ST

[warm crag]

banezi you must aid me in completing 8 m+ dungeons on my warrior and 8 on my rogue tomorrow

[oblique trail]

What the FUCK

is this impossible task

[warm crag]

this is a light task

[young swan]

why

[hearty surge]

Whats the reward?

[young swan]

arms does less prio than fury

[hearty surge]

for completing the task

[oblique trail]

nothing

do NOT fall for it

[hearty surge]

Spongie can join anda and me on our adventures through 26s tomorrow

only on rogue though

[warm crag]

we groupwatch more dogshit poe ssf standard content from a guy who took 35 minutes to complete mao kun

[full viper]

Cuz adds die so freaking fast I don’t even get the chance to ramp

[feral walrus]

why

[olive wraith]

What

[oblique trail]

I need to investigate every chest and rare item

carefully

[warm crag]

he did

[hearty surge]

Mao kun is difficult

[dapper goblet]

watching poe when d3 season 30 is out? odd.

[hearty surge]

ngl

[warm crag]

it took 35 minutes

[olive wraith]

Arms has less burst than fury lol

[warm crag]

mao kun does not take you 35 minutes????

[olive wraith]

Why would you go to less prio less burst

[open prairie]

what spec is spongie rog

[oblique trail]

most difficult unique map isn't grandmaster but the eyeball map with a temp bubble shield boss

[clever path]

Outlaw is the only right answer

[warm crag]

outlaw cause its piss easy

[clever path]

Ass is ass to play

[open prairie]

its fury but better

[clever path]

Sub is giga easy

[hearty surge]

all rogue speccs are giga easy

[oblique trail]

Every spec in wow is giga easy to play

if you spend at least 5 minutes on a dummy

[warm crag]

aiawia spongeuwu jürgendumm adventures

or what char are u on

[oblique trail]

or do one single google search

[dapper goblet]

post logs if they are so easy noob

owned

[oblique trail]

97.1 average noob

[open prairie]

outlaw kir bug abuser

[oblique trail]

(my median is in shambles)

[dapper goblet]

average ..

[nova garnet]

Go play arcane mage

[hearty surge]

My warrior

but its not Jürgendumm anymore

[nova garnet]

Maybe I'm just dumb

[open prairie]

stonks

[hearty surge]

its back to Tophifee

[nova garnet]

But I find arcane hard as fuck

[warm crag]

why is it not jürgendumm man

[nova garnet]

Even with 30-45 minutes Ina. Dunny

[warm crag]

this is outrageous this is unfair

[hearty surge]

Guildies kept complaining

about the name

[oblique trail]

I learnt assa opener while Spongie communicated it to me as I was pressing my opener surely Arcane mage will be a piece of cake

[warm crag]

northern sky noobers cannot handle the raw power

[open prairie]

i enjoy starting every key

with 1min of a 6 buff

[hearty surge]

reloe actually made a weakaura

[open prairie]

[hearty surge]

to set custom names in raid frames

for people

because of jürgendumm

[warm crag]

viciously yelled at him to shiv then kingsbane and his punishment for failure was death

[burnt stone]

I just saw your mention.
I'm asking again because there are parts I don't understand because the translator can't translate accurately.

Are you saying that increasing AoE DPS through Titan's Rage is more helpful for M+ content than increasing ST DPS through Dancing Blade?

[open prairie]

i need to get my dh name changed

to 7 ascii chars

and have everyone hate it

[oblique trail]

I wish for this punishment

[chilly iron]

I want the torghast power that let us cleave passively by making rampage cast ww or something

[open prairie]

get parried on it

[edgy widget]

No, I said the opposite

• while TR is higher multitarget damage, the increased priority damage of Dancing Blades is (somewhat ironically) usually considered to be worth more

[warm crag]

i think we deserve the condemn 1s knockdown power

[olive wraith]

Db feels so damn good

[edgy widget]

in lower keys where things die fast though, go TR all the way

[oblique trail]

the parry alone would be enough for my life to stop immediately

[edgy widget]

in higher keys, it's really up to you, based on your preferences/needs

[hearty surge]

There are definitely keys where the priority damage is worth more, but there are also keys where that isnt the case

its a case by case basis

[oblique trail]

my pain is immeasuarable on Smolderon when he's doing a quick funny spin due to tank movement and he parries my 2p buffed BB

[edgy widget]

Yeah, it can be a bit of a mixed bag, why I cited "trash heavy dungeons"

[open prairie]

are you a kir bug abuser

on pirate

👁️

[edgy widget]

or perhaps I should say "dungeons with big shitload pulls"

[warm crag]

no wtf is that

[open prairie]

you can infinitely spam 7pt snd

out of combat

with setup

[warm crag]

damn that sounds boring af

[warm crag]

i will not be doing this

[steel flare]

Its combined votes from either region right or does NA get season 3 tier EU get s2? I don't play warrior this tier yet so jus curious

[oblique trail]

Paw icon new rogue ability

very dangerous

[open prairie]

it lets you start a key

with all buffs

[dapper goblet]

both regions getting season 2

[hearty surge]

Plot twist

[open prairie]

[hearty surge]

its actually feral druid

[steel flare]

Why do people hate season 2 on twitter xD

Seen a lot crying

[dapper goblet]

noobs idk

[oblique trail]

The same reason people hate season 3

preference

[steel flare]

Wasn't s2 good

[dapper goblet]

uptime on boss 2 hard

yeah lots of people liked it

just lots of people like s3

[warm crag]

die am die

[dapper goblet]

just is what it is

[edgy widget]

Rogues actually have some of the most busted ass shit I've ever seen this expansion

[steel flare]

I mean u could be Hunters, u voting for season 3 thinking that's why we do big aoe

[burnt stone]

Aha thank you
So the M+ Talnets on Wowhead with Titan's Rage selected is for lower level players?

[open prairie]

its apparently a bug thats existed much longer

than this season

[oblique trail]

that's literally why people vote for s2

[hearty surge]

we never did big aoe

[warm crag]

i vote s2 cause die of die

[oblique trail]

"We did so much more AoE in s2 so we must vote for it"

[hearty surge]

all s2 does is flatten the curve

so we do shit aoe more often

[oblique trail]

die warrior die

[warm crag]

true

[dapper goblet]

[warm crag]

i will delete spongiewarr (fyrakk will not die wednesday)

[oblique trail]

kill fyrakk loot the weapon delete character

[hearty surge]

Rename spongiewarr to Jürgendumm

I give you permission

[warm crag]

i cannot bear the mantle

[hearty surge]

to continue the legacy

[warm crag]

the burden is too heavy

it would crush me into a little pile of dust and i would get blown away by anda pressing one of the evoker tail swipes

[steel flare]

Sorry my brain is trying to figure out if ur with or against the Hunter s2, and if ur self reflecting about warriors tier. I'm tired lol

[oblique trail]

No I'm talking about warrior votes

[steel flare]

Ye

[hearty surge]

Anda would be very happy

to see it continued

[oblique trail]

People voted for Fury s2 because "it did way more aoe"

[warm crag]

is jürgendumm claimed on TM

[hearty surge]

Probably not

[warm crag]

maybe i make jürgendumm purple man

[edgy widget]

sometimes perception is more important than reality

[violet condor]

i voted s2 because i like anger management..

[steel flare]

I mean the way my brain works for voting is, was it more fun? Does it make my gameplay more braindead, can I then focus on mechanics more because its more braindead

I didn't vote for warrior tho

This was for hunter but ye

[oblique trail]

I rolled a dice

and voted for what it landed on

[steel flare]

That's why I'm confused why hunters voted for s3 for BM

I need to have a word with them

[warm crag]

there is no d3 you liar

[dapper goblet]

isnt season 3 hunter the one that spawns all the pets

think people find that fun

pet class

[oblique trail]

I made one up (manufacturing rights still pending)

[steel flare]

U summon a lil bit more pets

Nothing crazy

[warm crag]

admit you helped me manipulate thousands of people into voting s2

[dapper goblet]

think thats just hunter theme in play

[warm crag]

tell them the truth

[steel flare]

Call of the wild is where u summon ur whole stable or w/e

[wanton mirage]

Got my first invite after queing for 1 hr. Nail the run (my first 26). Ended the boss with big reflect .

[oblique trail]

The truth is my votes landed on the least popular sets for both Fury and Arms

[warm crag]

do not make me perish hunger hunger inescapable doom you

[oblique trail]

My disappointment when neither won is indescribable

[steel flare]

I mean if blizzard want to cater towards the bm pet fantasy because yes clearly people do want that then they should add stampede baseline and good

[hearty surge]

I had 20M reflect damage in throne of the tides with anda before

was fun

[steel flare]

But yeah ig w/e

[edgy widget]

na I heard S3 was terrible in M+

fake news fr

[oblique trail]

I will molten shell your combo

with 90 max ress

[warm crag]

quin has a tankier build than me

maybe i just go next

[oblique trail]

I also think you have at least 200x more damage than he has

[warm crag]

true

@hearty surge groupwatch with anda tmrw?

quick 1:14:09 lab run

[oblique trail]

speedrunners hate him and his tricks

[hearty surge]

If you can get anda to watch taht with you

you not only deserve yellow

[warm crag]

i cannot

[dapper goblet]

d4 owns poe

[hearty surge]

you deserve blue

[warm crag]

tbf the guy in the video is so psychotic maybe he'd enjoy it in a case study sense

[oblique trail]

I have beaten you on the nightmare dungeon leaderboard plebian

[dapper goblet]

idk what that is

[restive peak]

22% fyrakk surely dead soon D:

[oblique trail]

Idk either maybe they haven't added endgame yet to d4

[warm crag]

clueless..

[dapper goblet]

hate to break it to you bud

[warm crag]

or maybe your team is actually good

[dapper goblet]

but you've got like another 3 prog days

[restive peak]

I'm fully kidding LOL

2-3 days probably yeah

[dapper goblet]

think we got to 17% and it took us 2 more days to kill

quirky boss

[restive peak]

Such a shitshow man

It's fun though

[warm crag]

you are in kill range if you get him to <20%

[dapper goblet]

yeah i like it

[restive peak]

Good ol halondrus style jarring deaths, but fun

[warm crag]

but you just dont kill him until 2-3 days later lol

[dapper goblet]

i mean yeah you can rng kill it in p3

[warm crag]

we almost did

then tornado incident

[restive peak]

I think a lot of guilds get a 4-5% pull then regress for 2 days lol

[warm crag]

0.4% ..

[restive peak]

From what I've been watching

[oblique trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1006707125315194950/1178478862108196894/Discord_LBLU0RFs7O.gif

[warm crag]

its not that

[oblique trail]

🌪️

[warm crag]

the tornado was perfectly place to eviscerate a new burning seed the millisecond it spawned

[oblique trail]

🌱

[warm crag]

if the tornado was advanced by like 1s we wouldve killed

[restive peak]

RIP

[dapper goblet]

i click my extra action button

no shame

[oblique trail]

you are psychotic

[dapper goblet]

never needed it macro'd

[restive peak]

DHs fire alarm went off, think he wants a break lewl

[dapper goblet]

did seed fine our last kill

[warm crag]

you wither to approximately half your size and become really thirsty

[restive peak]

I click mine, never fucked it up once anywhere

[dapper goblet]

😎

[restive peak]

It's like a massive ass button and you know when to use xD

[dapper goblet]

the crows will feast upon your mustard seeds.

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-pissi-twitch-7tv-gif-7223094372649290081

[full viper]

So with Season 2 fury tier set, do we still use slam ?

[oblique trail]

no

[hearty surge]

Yes

[oblique trail]

maybe

[warm crag]

you certainly can

[wanton mirage]

I felt terrible everytime I play with DH. I feel like he took most of dps becoz all the low adds just die.

[hearty surge]

Slam your head against the keyboard

that is

[oblique trail]

https://tenor.com/view/snowboard-cat-gif-24540804

[warm crag]

i fear for my frail life

[dapper goblet]

last time slam was a good button was in BFA

CA

may it rest in peace

[warm crag]

slam on cd

[hearty surge]

remember that slam procc

I dont remember the name

[clever path]

bring back heroic strike

it has hero in it so must be strong

[warm crag]

i will crushing assault you

[clever path]

I'll devouver you whole

[warm crag]

devouver

[hearty surge]

Dont use that word

[warm crag]

tinder waiting for a spark

[hearty surge]

it reminds me of terraria calamity

shudders

[warm crag]

need to play that

[oblique trail]

bet you haven't finished it on deathmode

[clever path]

that terraria theme never fades from memory

[warm crag]

never got past the weird toxic bee thing in the jungle

[clever path]

its embedded perma in ears

[hearty surge]

Im stuck on devourer of gods

[oblique trail]

gg

[hearty surge]

master death mode

[warm crag]

just dodge more?

[oblique trail]

I haven't finished it either my weak will gave up on Supreme Calamitas

[dapper goblet]

calamity with 4 people

cannot see scren

so epic

[clever path]

i dont have friends to play it with

[warm crag]

calamity with more than 1 person sounds like a great time to get oneshot by mechanics that werent meant fo you

[dapper goblet]

played it like 3 years ago and i think the class with the pets just didnt work

was so quirky

[hearty surge]

Worm bosses in multiplayer must be absolutely trash

[oblique trail]

they are

[warm crag]

bullet hell bosses are too

[clever path]

terraria keeps having last last update

[oblique trail]

borderline unplayable

[hearty surge]

when it just randomly starts flying

insanely fast

and oneshots you

[clever path]

this is the last patch for sure and then devs go release one more update

[hearty surge]

it already does in normal master death mode

should play

infernum

mode

tbh

[oblique trail]

Infernum goes hard

But

[hearty surge]

fights look way more telegraphed

[oblique trail]

My brain wants to self destruct

Got to Devourer in Infernum

Then it was just gg

[warm crag]

banezi never invited me to play terraria calamity? weird

[oblique trail]

Cease

[hearty surge]

we should play terraria calamity

skyhold only

[oblique trail]

next time I start my playthrough of Calamity I will incessantly spam you

[hearty surge]

master death mode

4 people

true melee only

[clever path]

guys look what im rocking on my paladin

[warm crag]

Sounds like a great time

[oblique trail]

yeah can't wait to be stuck on literally first boss that's perma hovering above you

[warm crag]

Am i allowed the jürgendumm name

[hearty surge]

I only play melee though

even in my master death mode playthrough

from what I see playing range or magic makes it so much easier

[warm crag]

Doesnt true melee go really hard tho

[frosty patrol]

i didn't play s2, with s2 tier set do you play annihilator or rb spec?

[oblique trail]

RB

[hearty surge]

if you are maxed out it does

[oblique trail]

True Melee does a lot more damage to make up for it having to literally hit them

[hearty surge]

but if you are progressing

[oblique trail]

But some fights its just borderline unplayable

[hearty surge]

Yeh

like any boss that hovers at a distance

from you

is just impossible

to go true melee

it absolutely destroys worm bosses though

[warm crag]

Idk might do a Singleplayer playthru cause my last run was plagued by playing a 4 man Lobby and one of them played melee with aggro gear so i didnt see the thing i was shooting half the time

[dapper goblet]

looking forward to you having a good time

be sure to report back to me after you get the set

[oblique trail]

gg Spongie already brushed my invite off

hated by Spongus

[restive peak]

Bro we had another sub 25% pull, our DHs fire alarm started before the pull and he just pushed through before finally checkin LOL

[oblique trail]

Immo aura'd too much

[compact knot]

isnt supreme calamitas literally impossible as true melee

[oblique trail]

Iirc she dashes through you multiple times

So it's not impossible

[dapper goblet]

just take the batteries out of the smoke detector

[oblique trail]

But very cringe

[clever path]

oh my god, teraria is the same as wow in regards to melee situation

melee C tier in terarria

[dapper goblet]

dont think bosses can parry in terraria

they have that on us

[clever path]

its confirmed, wow mimics terarria in dps ecosystem

[quartz hare]

You season two people for furry just love bleeding our spec.
Season three is way better for uptime.
Season for is gonna suck cause waiting for 80% proc is dumb.
100% on a button give most flexibility for boss fights.
I hope you guys love looking at denied screens cause it gonna happen again.
Season three I have had no hard times getting in raids.

[hollow ridge]

melee in terraria is just fake ranged cause half the weapons shoot projectiles

[upbeat sentinel]

Ya but they can sometimes get invincibility frames

[compact knot]

chatting

both tiersets are good

[dapper goblet]

always next year bud

[clever path]

It’s fury not furry

[gilded pawn]

You season two people for furry just love bleeding our spec.
Season three is way better for uptime.
Season for is gonna suck cause waiting for 80% proc is dumb.
100% on a button give most flexibility for boss fights.
I hope you guys love looking at denied screens cause it gonna happen again.
Season three I have had no hard times getting in raids.

@half cargo @red yew new pasta

[compact knot]

you always had a button to push with the season 2 build, its called whirlwind

[warm crag]

You season two people for furry just love bleeding our spec.
Season three is way better for uptime.
Season for is gonna suck cause waiting for 80% proc is dumb.
100% on a button give most flexibility for boss fights.
I hope you guys love looking at denied screens cause it gonna happen again.
Season three I have had no hard times getting in raids.

[restive peak]

WE GOT ONE BOIS

YAAAASSSSSS

[upbeat plume]

you always have buttons to hit in s3 if your do the rotation right lol

[compact knot]

false

[dapper goblet]

sometimes you're actually waiting

[upbeat sentinel]

Dog I do not want to to push whirlwind on single target

[restive peak]

No, he's right.

[dapper goblet]

for something to come up

[restive peak]

You wait like once every 3mins

for 1 GCD

[compact knot]

no he is wrong, its rare

[gilded pawn]

xeos

[compact knot]

though

[sinful spoke]

S2 copers acting like winners after cheating

[upbeat plume]

sure bud lol

[sinful spoke]

💀💀

[gilded pawn]

@dapper goblet what did the korean guy vote for

[restive peak]

He wanted S3

S2

[sinful spoke]

U dont know ur fraudulent votes arent going to be counted

[dapper goblet]

cowfarmers knows whats best

would blindly follow him into combat

[restive peak]

People are so weirdly emotionally invested in this bruh

[clever path]

Except season 2 voters aren’t saying shit and season 3 andies are just proving that they are triggered af ☠️

[warm crag]

I won and all the votes i manipulated will count fairly

[restive peak]

Pros and cons, we'll have some fun, we're warriors, who cares

[upbeat sentinel]

If blizzard actually has a way to track it and undoes the alt voting I’m gonna :):):)

[clever path]

It’s like vanilla all over again

[oblique trail]

gg we had a while without the tier set convo

[upbeat plume]

lol there has been nothing but vitriol from both sides lol

[sinful spoke]

What makes u think they dont ur so funny

[quartz hare]

Season two is waiting and waiting and waiting,
Season three give most uptime.
Burst aoe is not worth loosing the single target we got.

[compact knot]

anything but the fucking season 1

[sinful spoke]

We arent the ones cheating 💀

[restive peak]

S1 for president

[upbeat sentinel]

The fact that they ran it on the forums in the first place kind of implies they’re incompetent

[dapper goblet]

always next year bud

[compact knot]

they felt the same uptime wise

your so delusional

[sinful spoke]

Peepeoopoo go to bed spongie

[clever path]

Vote season 2

Vote season 2

Vote season 2

[sinful spoke]

Im good

[upbeat plume]

season 1 would have been fine with the supposed tuning they are going to do, but thats why people wanted the current season as season 2s tuning was ass and folks have lost trust in blizzard to bring our class out of mediocrity

[upbeat sentinel]

Judge saying how his last 3 days went

[sinful spoke]

Keep spamming tht tho maybe u get muted

[warm crag]

Cant wait for fake votes to be removed and s3 will lose half their votes and s2 will lose 20 at most 💪

[upbeat sentinel]

“I voted, then voted again, then again”

[sinful spoke]

💀💀💀

[sinful spoke]

Real and true

[clever path]

remember I’m in boosting community , I secretly paid god tier Iranian advertiser with 500 accounts to automate vote

Got gold got votes

[sinful spoke]

S3 is the one that randomly gained 3.5k votes in one day

[agile pumice]

!smf

[dapper goblet]

dont talent it

[sinful spoke]

Bis build

[compact knot]

smf is goated

[upbeat sentinel]

I don’t do business with Iranians so I’m better than you

[oblique trail]

perish beamed

[upbeat sentinel]

Only Chileans

[clever path]

Been getting auto accepted into raids with smf btw

[warm crag]

Selfreport

[oblique trail]

all your votes disappear

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-miles-morales-miles-shocked-surprise-gif-13646668700392851337

[dapper goblet]

all season 2 votes are 100% real

[clever path]

Be careful with gifs

Might get timed out for 7 years

[dapper goblet]

successful campaign

[compact knot]

they remove all the voting bots and all the season 1 votes disappear except for 1 🔥 🔥

[agile pumice]

I know its not better, but I have a 480 + 476 (Gholak) vs a 467 + 424 2H weaps

[compact knot]

that is actually better

lmao

[upbeat sentinel]

Them removing botted votes and S1 suddenly wins would be a wild fucking ride

[dapper goblet]

i did vote season 1..

[sinful spoke]

Id take it im ngl

[warm crag]

On the edge of death, my heart races. I am alive!

[compact knot]

i promise you a 480 + 476 gholak will be way better than a 467 and 424

[upbeat sentinel]

I’d take it just for the fucking shock and drama

[oblique trail]

If you're just looking for a talent setup I can cook you one up

[quartz hare]

No I have had ksh every season.
Using a add on to do max damage and wait for a 80% proc is dumb.
Then we loose self sustain in the process.
Season three fixed a lot of problems fury had to deal with.
Yea no big aoe burst but single target uptime and healing means we can do more than just a body

[upbeat plume]

like I said if they actually tuned season one to not be a worthless bonus Id prefer it over the snooze fest that is s2s tier

[oblique trail]

But you'd probably get more mileage out of SMF rather than TG with those weapons, until you get better 2handers

[red yew]

Yooooo

[sinful spoke]

In reality idgaf who wins i just want to see s2 copers cry after having their fraudulent votes removed

[agile pumice]

Yeah, until I get real 2h weps

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah unfortunately they ain’t gonna tune shit

[dapper goblet]

always next year bud

[clever path]

[upbeat sentinel]

Everyone that keeps saying “THEY SAID THEYRE GONNA TUNE EM!!!!” Is huffing cope real hard

[clever path]

Carry on inhaling that sweet copium bruh

Ain’t happening, like blizzard gives an ounce of a bag about them votes

[upbeat plume]

from archies pin it seems they are going to, but yeah blizzards lost all faith from our community to tune us

[upbeat sentinel]

They said they will, doesn’t mean they actually will

[warm crag]

Remind me after all fradulent s3 votes are removed and it will be proven that s3 supporters are only redditors !!!

[arctic copper]

the real truth

[upbeat plume]

they did last fated at the begining at least

[sinful spoke]

Whats a redditor

[upbeat plume]

Im just more saying that I dont trust them to tune stuff CORRECTLY at all lol

[clever path]

I heard it’s where they post funny cat pics and a lot of news

[oblique trail]

If you need a talent setup. Remove the WW talents for Bloodcraze and 2nd point in Vicious Contempt if it's ST
Small note I haven't actually bothered to min/max what is best for ST pure feelycraft

[upbeat sentinel]

I’d be on god surprised if the tier set isn’t copy pasted

[upbeat plume]

yeah true that lol,

[warm crag]

I will use this build on wednesday where we defeat fyrakk ty

[sinful spoke]

One point in purple face

[upbeat sentinel]

Like if there’s a grammatical error in there, it’ll be in the new one too

They ain’t fixing shit

[sinful spoke]

[oblique trail]

Yeah well kinda rough when dookie ass SMF and Frenzied needs to be talented

[compact knot]

warrior dev: light on, nobody home

[agile pumice]

Ill try this! Thank you!

[oblique trail]

you will loot the legendary and your SMF build will be deleted

[upbeat plume]

especiallys because while the mechanics of the tier set are annoying the performance wasnt bad so not much incentive to change anything for s2s

[clever path]

Message seen

[upbeat sentinel]

3/4 of class devs to be fair

DKs meta has been “stand in your own death and decay or fucking suffer” for 2 expats

Expacs*

Which is god fucking awful gameplay

[clever path]

DK isn’t a dps spec anymore

[compact knot]

prot paladin mastery

[sinful spoke]

MN the fact dks cant cleave without dnd is so dogshit

Its what turns me off the most from playing my dk in m+

[upbeat sentinel]

How do they not just do for DK what they did for Boomy and make the aoe move with them. DKs just canonically oozing unholy energy and corrupting the ground around them as they move would be badass as fuck

[clever path]

That requires work and development

They are an indie company remember

[upbeat sentinel]

Have it on the same CD and duration but stop making me bitch slap my own tanks

[sinful spoke]

Or just give it ww type ability that lets it cleave

Omegalol

[upbeat sentinel]

Na I’m fine thematically with death and decay being an “unholy ground” deal that just makes the DK a god and cleave and all that shit

[sinful spoke]

Or make it that 5 mobs infected by ur dots get cleaved and reduced smg afterwards

[upbeat sentinel]

But it being stationary is awful

[clever path]

I think DND is fine IF you remove the rune cost + lower its CD

Just make it either same CD as conc for paladin

Or remove cd altogether

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah taking a talent to get a second stack of it and still getting assfucked feels bad

[sinful spoke]

Idk man youd have to reduce the cd by a lot

[dapper goblet]

spells that require you to stand in them are bad

[upbeat sentinel]

Hello spear

[sinful spoke]

Real and true

[dapper goblet]

mages broke free from the rune

we shall break free from the spear

(we wont)

[sinful spoke]

Cant wait to be forced to press poop spear

[upbeat sentinel]

Dks will not break free from death and decay

[warm crag]

There will be no warrior rework

I have seen to it

[sinful spoke]

I got insider info

[dapper goblet]

its 100% going into the next expansion with the visual change

[sinful spoke]

Tww we get reworked

[upbeat sentinel]

Also how did DKs get no lore shit from an expansion that they should’ve spearheaded

[sinful spoke]

Entirely

[upbeat sentinel]

They just hate us 😦

[hardy fog]

Champions spear big reworks pog

[upbeat sentinel]

Na one more expansion after

TWW will be the same tier bonuses as now but shuffled

[hardy fog]

Wow2 rework 4 sure

[upbeat sentinel]

So S3 in S1

Also I’m scared that they’re developing all 3 expansions at once and it’s gonna content starve all of them

Only getting 3 raid tiers an expac is already ass

What if they drop it to 2 💀

[ebon shore]

ian already confirmed that the content is not going to be less

[clever path]

Not true Bolvar DK papa hat cinematic

[cosmic lance]

Pretty sure they openly committed to 3 raids per xpac

[sweet vault]

I'm coming back for Fury next season 😎

[clever path]

And we have seen Arthas

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah but are DKs free of him now that he no have hat?

[sweet vault]

NO MORE SLAMM IM FREEEEEEE

[dapper goblet]

🎊

[upbeat plume]

lol the salt over slam is still as funny as it was day 1 of this season

[hardy fog]

we barely press slam

[sweet vault]

the animation sucks ass

[upbeat plume]

apparently its the fucking end of the god damn world for some people on here lol

[upbeat sentinel]

Also is anyone going to confront the fact that Bolvar had us raid lights hope (which never got referenced in the Paladin quest line LOL) and try to steal Tirion

[upbeat plume]

who the fuck cares

[clever path]

If you barely press slam you play spec wrong

[upbeat sentinel]

Or are we just never gonna see that shit

[upbeat plume]

about the animation

[sweet vault]

I do

🙂

[dapper goblet]

@sweet vault just block out the haters

😎

[clever path]

Wait what

[keen forum]

I don’t even notice the animations when hitting a target dummy

[sinful spoke]

Blizz already works on 2 expaca at the same time usually

[keen forum]

Last one that caught my eye was condemn

[clever path]

I thought they had connected campaigns and you experienced that from paladins perspective too

[sweet vault]

I play fury souly because I find it badass a dude just looked at a 2-hander sword and just goes "What if I duel wielded that". Slam animation is so fucking not. Now if slam had the animation where he just bonks the person on the head both of his swords then I'd say slam p good.

[upbeat sentinel]

You do not

[sinful spoke]

And this time they got a bunch more people in the team

[upbeat sentinel]

It’s never even mentioned to paladins iirc

[sweet vault]

Real 😎

[sinful spoke]

With the devs for that magic br game that they took in

[upbeat plume]

sure, some of us actually want the spec to play and feel good from a gameplay perspective not asthetics, so you do you I guess

[clever path]

Imagine skullsplitter(arms) animation for slam ?

That’d be baller

[sweet vault]

I have no issue with slam as an ability, but the animation kills me, it looks so derpy for fury

[dapper goblet]

slam also does not belong on the fury spec

[upbeat plume]

it reaaaaaly dosent matter

[sinful spoke]

Why is the survival hunter in our discord

[sweet vault]

but I also HEAVILY prefer S2 set over S3 set

[sinful spoke]

Kick him out

[clever path]

Is there a ret main among us rn?

[sweet vault]

If there was, he wouldn't reveal it

[upbeat sentinel]

I’m technically frost dk main since it’s more geared

But warrior performs better

[sweet vault]

I'm a blood dk, I just dable in Survival and Fury for funsies lmao

I mostly only play tanks

[clever path]

Frost also has to stand in DND right ?

[upbeat sentinel]

All DK specs do

It enables all of our AoE

[clever path]

Survival is fun as fuck

[upbeat plume]

cant wait for s2 to be as badly tuned or worse in s4 as in its own season

[sinful spoke]

This guy plays tank arms warrior lol

[clever path]

It has whirlwind too

[dapper goblet]

WHO CARES ABOUT TUNING

[sweet vault]

I play prot warrior too

I just find tankng super fun

[clever path]

Prot war >>>> prot paladin

[upbeat sentinel]

Frost AoE even in decay is terrible though. Let’s us hit 2 extra targets which

Is underwhelming

[clever path]

Prot warrior feels better to play than prot paladin

[upbeat sentinel]

It’s part of why the lege isn’t great for them

[clever path]

Even though paladin has more control

[sweet vault]

I find DPSIng p boring but when I have an itch its usally either Fury Warrior or SURV hunter

[upbeat plume]

anyone who actually cares about performing

[compact knot]

timed a +22 rise with 7 seconds left and i was pretty much the tank for half the dungeon xd

[sweet vault]

I dont even have prot pally leveled

because its a

[dapper goblet]

You can perform as season 2 fury

[compact knot]

(as a fury warrior)

[dapper goblet]

just like fury players did

in season 2

[sinful spoke]

I timed a 23 with 3 seconds left hahaha

[dapper goblet]

they've also said they will do tuning

[sinful spoke]

Fuck rise man

[sweet vault]

basically DK but the effect of "If I step out of concencrate I die" 🤣

[sinful spoke]

That place is hell

[clever path]

lol so true

[compact knot]

rise is a sludge

the first part is so good

then the second is so bad

[upbeat sentinel]

Please drop the cope they’re not gonna tune it well at all

[cosmic lance]

rise is the bane of my pug existence this week

[sweet vault]

Also I love blood dk so much so why would I play pally

DS healing go brr

[clever path]

I also love health bar ping pong

[upbeat sentinel]

If you love blood now would be a bad time to stop since it’s the only tank that can use lege

[dapper goblet]

warrior has a higher chance of being buffed than other random specs/classes

[meager gyro]

Let’s all put our 450 ilvl tier back on in and play raging blow

[night dune]

Either Wowanalyzer is just abandonware at this point or I'm REALLY fucking my roto up lmao

[dapper goblet]

some specs are left to rot entire expansions

[sweet vault]

Oh every season so far, My Blood DK was the highest I level

[night dune]

(This is for a 3m 42s Nymue pull for context)

[upbeat plume]

lol if you trust blizzard to tune anything correctly your high, they literally let specs rot for months, we were ass for most of abberrus literally the 2nd worst st spec in the game

[sweet vault]

out of all my tanks

even meta tanks, I prior my blood dk over

because Blood is based 😎

[upbeat sentinel]

What makes you think that

[dapper goblet]

good thing fury was good on the only fights that mattered

[sinful spoke]

This website is dead for warriors

[dapper goblet]

poster child melee

[meager gyro]

It’s both

[upbeat sentinel]

They’re just gonna make fury shit and make arms good

[dapper goblet]

good

about time arms got some love

red head step child spec atm

[upbeat sentinel]

That’s not good 💀

Arms pvp fury pve always

[clever path]

Is fury channel gonna be dead soon?

[sweet vault]

Same here, its like I missed so many Empowered Runic Weapons its like no I press that shit off CD on way in hell I have like close to 0 💀

[sweet vault]

I just really love S2 Fury set because Ravager and Onslaut go brr

[upbeat sentinel]

Would be sad if fury is terrible next tier too since we have access to so much fire dmg shit, our them could be crazy

[past pivot]

Wowanalyzer hasn’t been good for warriors for some time.