fury

[snow edge]

Literally no

It increased steadily each day over the Friday - Sunday period

It was certainly influenced by a few key people, particularly on stream, and I'm sure people voted on multiple characters (as it was highlighted you could do that)

But it didn't jump 3000 votes in 1 day

[unborn rover]

Found the EU player

[brittle crow]

fr

[terse zenith]

idk how anyone can say the season 3 tier bonus is better lol

[molten relic]

you mean there was 3000 votes after 2am all for season 2? mysteriously

[sullen dove]

cuz it is

[molten relic]

like weve been told

[sudden tusk]

numarically i think its better but in terms of fun

[snow edge]

Wrong again, 2 for 2

[molten relic]

[sudden tusk]

AM is more enjoyable to play

[sullen dove]

in m+

[molten relic]

at least arms will be good hopefully

[snow edge]

So you're saying it suddenly increased by 3000 votes in the space of a few minutes after 2am???

[sullen dove]

arms will pipe

[molten relic]

no im just talking shit

[brittle crow]

gonna have to learn arms

[molten relic]

votes are fine

[unborn rover]

Screw that. Just go prot

[sullen dove]

hit mortal strike >> hit overpower

you learned arms

[molten relic]

people voted for what they want- surely some followed their favorite streamer

its a fated season anyways

nbd

[dapper goblet]

^

[snow edge]

There were a few people tracking votes in Crit's discord, and posting the numbers at regular intervals; you can see it steadily trend towards S2 over those 2 - 3 days

[warm pond]

Arms is obviously the go to

[edgy widget]

you're right, it was closer to 4,000

[brittle crow]

i keep seeing archi start typing for a few seconds then stop and im scared

LETS GO

[edgy widget]

This was Friday afternoon, after 4 days of voting

This was late Fri night/Sat morning for NA

and EU

[lofty scroll]

yeah i remember that

i thought for sure

[unborn rover]

🫦 The screenshots with the evidence. Love it.

[brittle crow]

i thought for sure archi was about to tell me to stop spreading misinformation

i am validated

[edgy widget]

that's a 20% increase for NA and a 30% jump for EU in the span of a single day, which flipped S3 from wining by >1,200 votes to S2 winning by ~500

Over the course of Saturday afternoon, those numbers grew even further, to S2 winning by over 1k

[unborn rover]

He was ready lmao.

[edgy widget]

after that, the voting returned to normal, and the numbers continued to increase by the expected ~500 new votes/day

[sullen dove]

max video with 90k views moment

[edgy widget]

that jump also only happened with Fury - Arms didn't experience it, nor did Warrior tmog

[sinful spoke]

the fact people sat there and voted on multiple characters 1 by 1 just to force the tierset they want on others is so cringe to me\

💀

[sullen dove]

but ya not just that proly

[edgy widget]

P sure Max video came out after, and it still wouldn't account for such a sudden and one-sided shift

[sullen dove]

it came out thursday

[keen forum]

there was 100% some stream influence over the weekend

[snow edge]

The numbers that were being posted in the other discord didn't indicate that steep / immediate a jump, but if that's what happened then it happened

[edgy widget]

I'm not saying there weren't other factors

[brittle crow]

archi really has all the receipts 😭

that's why he's the goat

[edgy widget]

but the fact that this only happened to Fury and stopped as soon as S3 flipped to S2 is hella suspicious

[sinful spoke]

yep

[candid falcon]

true!

[edgy widget]

it also coincides with an alarming number of single post alt accounts on the forums

[keen forum]

it would be easy enough i'd imagine if there's any connection to character->vote for them to just dedupe the votes by account

[edgy widget]

and people blatantly pointing out that you can vote on multiple characters

[snow edge]

I don't think it's a coincidence that Fury was also the one that was pushed as having a 'better' tier, whereas Arms was more 'S1 or S3 are both acceptable'

[edgy widget]

I also have videos of people voting 10 times with diff characters and you can watch the vote increment each time - clearly not ignoring the duplicates

[unborn rover]

Will you submit that for review at all, Archi?

[snow edge]

Yeh I specifically said above that that was absolutely a factor, and especially given it was advertised on stream

[edgy widget]

blizz knows they don't care lol

same thing happened every other time they did a public vote

[unborn rover]

Of course. How silly of me to think they would care

[edgy widget]

you've always been able to vote on multiple chars

hell they didn't let TW/KR vote at all

[snow edge]

If there was botting involved maybe they'll overturn some votes, but I don't see a world where they change the outcome because people voted on several characters

[olive wraith]

we moving on up boys. should be easy 3k next week

[edgy widget]

I bet all the money in my pocket the actual designers had nothing to do with this poll either, this shit screams "community manager had a great idea"

[wanton mirage]

good job

[unborn rover]

^^^^^^

[sullen dove]

tbh just farm like all 21's youre basically there

maybe like 1 or 2 22's

[edgy widget]

I mean literally look at the amount of effort they went into these posts here (spoiler: basically none)

[lofty scroll]

cries..... thats why i pick s3

[unborn rover]

Like I said earlier. Whoever though this poll was fun and exciting was sorely mistaken.

[olive wraith]

ye i was hustling this weekend since i was off work

[haughty moth]

I'm dissapointed in everyone who voted for S2. shame on you

[olive wraith]

should be able to chery pick if i wanna jsut hit 3k.

[dapper goblet]

rekt

[olive wraith]

might just keep pushing though

[edgy widget]

I don't think they'll overturn anything, but you're absolutely fucking crazy if you think that there wasn't manipulation involved

[hollow ridge]

archi doing all the detective work for us

god bless

[open prairie]

i cant even vote since in forum banned since wod

[edgy widget]

and sure, if Blizz wants to come out and show their own receipts and say "ok there was some duplicate voting involved, here are the real numbers" maybe Season 2 will still win - I honestly don't care who wins, I'm fine either way

[olive wraith]

got gapped by bm

feelsbad

[lofty scroll]

well they gonna have to buff fury with a s2 set by a lot

[edgy widget]

But you absolutely cannot, in any sense of good faith, tell me these number jumps aren't sus as fuck

[olive wraith]

only got 1 crushing depths reflect. and 0 flame shocks (24 tot)

[edgy widget]

I don't care if it was Max, Critcake, the Dalai Lama, or all three that influenced people to vote for S2; I honestly couldn't care less which set wins

[snow edge]

For clarification, I literally said there was manipulation, and said the exact same points you've mentioned above; I was querying the validity of people saying thousands of votes were due to bots, rather than people voting on multiple characters / being influenced by streams etc

[olive wraith]

dalai lama def voted s2

[keen forum]

Yooooo the Dalai Lama plays warrior!?

[lofty scroll]

gonna have to make that spot the next best thing ahaha

[molten relic]

lets just hope they do waht they said and tune

accordingly

[lofty scroll]

tune the lego too

[olive wraith]

what can they do though

lower stacks needed to send bt?

[lofty scroll]

otherwise i spent 300k for nothing

[open prairie]

cope

[keen forum]

its very fair to say the vote was manipulated regardless of the tactic used

[olive wraith]

raise total stacks for higher bt dmg

[sullen dove]

yea fury tuning is actually just "leggo does twice as much damage, now no dilemma to ruin your AM feedback loop to use it, still get fucked

[keen forum]

sure it had to happen to another spec somewhere too there's enough of them

[dry talon]

Fucking s2....overnight

[clever path]

I play vengeance DH now Fury is doomed

[sullen dove]

oh god...

[open prairie]

ret was probably the most debated spec

[sullen dove]

nvm that was chill

[open prairie]

for some reason….

[olive wraith]

No way lol

Doesn’t ret love s3

[lofty scroll]

lets not blame crit, if they picked s2 because they want then its a fair choice.

[snow edge]

Ret was pretty heavily debated apparently, according to the guild Ret

[open prairie]

ret thread had like 1k replies

lol

[snow edge]

I think that's the issue, apparently not

[clever path]

What tier set won?

[dapper goblet]

s2

[lofty scroll]

s2

[clever path]

FUCK YEAH BOYS

[dapper goblet]

all real votes

[sullen dove]

cope

[clever path]

[sullen dove]

90% bots

[hushed cloud]

Xeos influence

[dapper goblet]

real

[lofty scroll]

we/ll never n

[molten relic]

tyran weeks

[lofty scroll]

know

[molten relic]

gon feel real bad

[clever path]

Time to gear the fury up for s4

We back baby

Yasss

[sullen dove]

its joever

[lofty scroll]

damn sorry my cat jumped on me

[haughty moth]

Remember to never use bloodthirst for healing now, it's a waste of dps

[sullen dove]

time to build the arms set

[molten relic]

^

I regret not taking the myth socketed DHT ring

[clever path]

Season 3 can suk it

[clever path]

Play ret

[open prairie]

play dh

[sullen dove]

pink man no leap = bad

[lofty scroll]

i tried but kept going back to fury

[clever path]

You get a horsieeee

[snow edge]

Pink man horsin'

[sullen dove]

horse slow and dumb

[lofty scroll]

i like the playstyle

[snow edge]

Hang on, it's not dumb

Maybe slow

[open prairie]

why have horse when you can dash

[clever path]

Vengeance DH is fun asf I boosted one with my pre order boost

[sullen dove]

real

[sick horizon]

why does the forum poll says S3 won but wowhead says s2 won?

[sullen dove]

cuz thats for us only

[molten relic]

because theres NA and EU

[sullen dove]

eu one s2 winning by a lot

[clever path]

How many packs you fel rushed in by accident

Because s3 sucks

[sullen dove]

cope

[candid falcon]

EU botted s2 votes

[sullen dove]

[edgy widget]

also to clarify and then I'll let this go - the reason I think it's sus is because the change in votes largely happened overnight; even with something like a popular youtube video, you expect a much more gradual change, as not everyone is watching and voting all at the same time

As of today, Max has 90k views on that video; presumably on Friday night it would have been a lot lower, but even assuming it was half as many, a 4k swing in votes would have required about 10% of the people who watched to all vote and vote in the same direction (ignoring the NA/EU divide), which seems very unlikely, that's three times the typical view-to-like ratio on youtube, and we can presume going to an external site would have an even lower rate of return

It absolutely could have been a factor, but I definitely do not think the only factor (even if true, it also kinda shows how bad these kind of votes are if a single big streamer could influence things that hard)

[clever path]

None cause I don't play havoc for that reason

[open prairie]

felrush is a dps button

nowadays

that shit trucks

[clever path]

Felrush can suck a duck

[lofty scroll]

agreed

[sullen dove]

also i mean, max thing aside altho it def didnt help the s3 cause how many people that arent warrior players are actually just gonna watch all 2 hours of that video and vote on everything he says

[burnt stone]

This is a question related to M+ content.
Most people choose Dancing Blade, but is Titanic Rage bad?

[snow edge]

You're right, I just felt between the two options the manipulation was due to streamer influence + mulitple characters rather than actual bots; but maybe it was both, and maybe Blizzard will investigate it

[sullen dove]

that has to be like stalker fan behavior to just be a "i will vote what max says is the best" drone, so its probably not that high

just any pr it did get was tailored to p2

[young swan]

you would be shocked how many parasocial andy's there are in the competitive wow ecosystem

[edgy widget]

between the two, I would agree - I think both are plausible

and fwiw I don't think anything will come of it, but until evidenced otherwise, I do firmly believe there was manipulation to at least some degree

[clever path]

I'm so happy fury is going back to s2 for s4 man I'm so happy right now I'm gonna buy a 6 month sub gonna pre order 100 cans of monster, read up all dungeon guides, smash those target dummies in my 447 tier set to practice BECAUSE ITS TIME BOYS 5K RIO SEASON 4 HERE WE COME

[sullen dove]

yea but voting for a class thats not your own in a super large scale i mean is whats less likely

[dapper goblet]

see you in groms chat a lot..

[sullen dove]

what are you practicing

[young swan]

how many streams do you have open rn

[snow edge]

Xan hard called out

[sullen dove]

spam rampage and raging blow and hit bt every 15 seconds or so

[snow edge]

[open prairie]

hot take: streaming ruined m+

[fallen glacier]

Blizzard is totally going to learn their lesson for war within season 4 and have the voting just done by the twitch electoral college

[dapper goblet]

0 i'm raiding icc

[sullen dove]

its literally easier than this season

[dapper goblet]

full attention

[clever path]

I've been away for months

[young swan]

xeos is literally in every wow stream at all times

[clever path]

Need to get that apm back

[lofty scroll]

besides there are future tier sets lol

[sullen dove]

identical apm btw

[clever path]

Shut up saltyish

[molten relic]

s3 has

the same APM

lol

[open prairie]

if you wanted coked up apm

[dapper goblet]

feel like if you see me in a stream then you're also in that stream..

[open prairie]

play outlaw rogue

[sullen dove]

play fire mage

[clever path]

Doing tank dps outside cds idc fuck season 3

[sullen dove]

off gcd ability with like 0 cooldown

[clever path]

No one is as excited as you man

[molten relic]

brain damage during and outside of cds

[sullen dove]

are you cognizant of the fact that s2 without cooldowns is equally as dogshit

[young swan]

yeah thats fair, but of those that follow max's opinion to a T, i'd be willing to bet theres a high correlation that they also voted on every class according to what was said in the vid/stream

[lofty scroll]

on a personally level, i just need to play my alt without my wrist pounding

[edgy widget]

Rage is good and often even more damage overall in trash heavy keys, but a lot of people devalue it because the ww part is minor and the enrage part is unimportant

There's also a somewhat contradictory belief that the ST priority damage is worth a lot more than the small gain in AoE, which is hilarious because the S3 tier is often bemoaned for the same reason (that it's ST heavy instead of AoE heavy)

[open prairie]

idk if i’d say s3 fury has tank dps outside cds

esp with how often you have OF

[sullen dove]

yea prolly like.. a few hundred at absolute most

[clever path]

Hahaha haha you so salty s3 no win hahaha be quiet we back boys

[molten relic]

comparing VDH popping all cds to you not having cds for 10 seconds

[sullen dove]

anywhere near 1000 prolly too off

[clever path]

[molten relic]

special ed this guy

[sullen dove]

bro sayin we

[open prairie]

waiting for the s4 “why dont i get invites to pug m+” posts

[sullen dove]

all will be fixed when legendary tomorrow, will ignore my spec falling into disrepair in fated season until the time comes

arms swappers rise up

[young swan]

i will be feasting on the s2 copers tears when nothing changes and fury is still uninvited to keys above 25

[high basin]

m+ is cringe anyway

[open prairie]

wait are people fr coping s2 bonus is gonna make fury relevant

[young swan]

ive seen the cope a few times yeah

[sullen dove]

[open prairie]

real

[clever path]

Choco cereal or hot toast with cheese ?

[open prairie]

people forgetting dh exists

[lofty scroll]

high hopes that we only drop a couple of specs down on the rankings

[dapper goblet]

still uninvited but more fun to play

[young swan]

i do not support doing m+ with a second digit above 0 past the first 2 weeks

[dapper goblet]

thats a win in my book

[high basin]

truuuuuuuu

[sullen dove]

blue man gonna be better anyway

[dapper goblet]

i'll be lime

[snow edge]

Think the alleged tuning also needs to be seen before a hard answer is reached

[sullen dove]

xeosfists

[open prairie]

just play aug and be 800 io above your skill level minimum

tbh

[high basin]

i have the legendary too

[dapper goblet]

@sullen dove xeoswhopper*

[high basin]

and i find m+ to be cringe

[spare otter]

Fury rotation fun with season2 set?

[young swan]

return of the whopper

i will also being going teal spec

[sullen dove]

whopper whopper whopper whopper junior double triple whopper

[modest condor]

stop making me hungry

[edgy widget]

that's exactly what it is, that's been the premise this whole time

[dapper goblet]

pray to god i never have to see a xanmagus

[open prairie]

good thing havoc is getting their bonobo tierset from this season still

[young swan]

sorry wrong colour...

[robust widget]

cant wait to use leggo in s2 set

[dapper goblet]

roger

[young swan]

punch and kick merchant

[high basin]

using the lego in s2 set will be even more cringe

[open prairie]

i need gromnak to get the lego

[young swan]

i will be suckling keys

[open prairie]

to have clips of him dying during the cast

it will be good content

[sullen dove]

grom needs something or he's gonna blow up

[young swan]

grom needs god

[sullen dove]

"gapped cuz no augury gapped cuz no legendary"

[edgy widget]

idk if you can buy horse tranquilizers without a license

[warm pond]

Even though this will be a temp thing, there will be a S4 of WW, S4 of Midnight, ect so this vote is ground work for them to do something again in the future.

[sullen dove]

he needs one of those so he doesnt have excuses anymore

[high basin]

Grom needs wing Wednesday

[sullen dove]

wing wednesday inshallah

[young swan]

we dont even know there will be a s4 for each of those tho

[clever path]

God I hope not

[young swan]

faster content cycle = maybe just 3 regular season + no more fated

[sullen dove]

3 season expansions. 2 raids, 1 fated season

[open prairie]

honestly

[warm pond]

Oh there will be. They have already decided to bring back Fated for DF.

[sullen dove]

yeah we still want 60 dollars for the expansion btw

[open prairie]

im surprised ww tier bonuses were so close

[warm pond]

Its a mechanic they are happy with

[open prairie]

were they actually all good

[high basin]

fated is fun

boosts pop off during fated too

[lapis lion]

To bridge a content gap that likely won't exist with future expansions. It's incredibly possible this is our 2nd, and last, fated season.

[warm pond]

They still have to roll the story over the course of the xpack

[oak peak]

i wouldnt say s2 makes fury relevant, but it does feel better in M+ (objectively). So M+ers out there are happy i guess. well, assuming that tuning allows

[edgy widget]

we'll see, can only hope

[open prairie]

yeah until they they complain no pug invites

[high basin]

[open prairie]

instead of just making friends

[tulip swallow]

maybe they suddenly figured out a magic solution, but we've had final patch content gaps forever

[sullen dove]

m+ers are the only like, valid thing to be happy about s2 set

[warm pond]

There will still be story content patches, thats not going away lol. You just have more of a clue what will be coming. But its true, we will see. Blizzard can be unpredictable AF at times.

[clever path]

Can’t make friends when your silenced ig

[sullen dove]

if u like raid and prefer s2 over s3 youre outta your mind

[open prairie]

also imagine if they made buffed bts from s3

[oak peak]

yeah but thats a dragonflight issue in general for warriors. and if you have a dedicated M+ group, doesnt matter much

[open prairie]

cleave with whirlwind

[sullen dove]

insta 80% vote on both regions

0 question unfortunately

would be "too good" then tho

[spare otter]

Is S2 set bad for raiding or something?

[high basin]

i wonder if people botted it

[dark elbow]

Yes, i am often called crazy

[oak peak]

not as good as S3

[sullen dove]

the set itself isnt as good yeah but the build isnt as friendly either most of the time

[clever path]

I still hit 3k in Aug release week, do your own keys, s2 is better for m+, people still invite warriors. S2 raiding is fine but yes s3 was better for raid. S2 was the right choice for all content for all types of players. Goodnight

[sullen dove]

there are a few occasions where more ravager and stuff is good like its prolly pretty nice on broodmother, but if 2 builds do the exact same damage a lot of the time you just prefer burst probably

esp for all the damage amp fights and shit this raid

[clever path]

Not for pvp

[lapis lion]

how is this objective lmao. it feels infinitely worse to me. s3 feels better in raid and m+. that's the definition of subjective

[sullen dove]

and i mean you lose so much if you get off the boss with s2 set, uptime matters a lot more, sure its still relevant s3 with OF reset but losing a odyns over the course of a fight isnt as bad as losing a reck/rav (probably)

[dark elbow]

PvP

[clever path]

U run anni for pvp and fury still strong either way

[dapper goblet]

mald

[high basin]

I would like to play raszageth and sarkareth with the current playstyle

[sullen dove]

blue man 🔇

[oak peak]

youre right, i meant subjectively

[young swan]

its bad

[sullen dove]

on god man s3 set would be so good on sark/rasz/echo

[high basin]

yeah

[molten relic]

np

[tulip swallow]

Give me season 2 but with OF instead of onslaught

[molten relic]

just pray for aura buff to help

[spare otter]

We use ravager for S2 set?

[sullen dove]

s2 mfs cant see beyond their am rav cloud of delusion

yes

[spare otter]

Shit sounds boring already

[clever path]

Is there a Ilvl increase ?

[molten relic]

AM rav is unfun

[sullen dove]

holy

[molten relic]

would love to see ravager replaced

[dapper goblet]

season 2 was just too hard for some people i guess..

[arctic stone]

I'm just ready to rage cuz shit run out of ravager again, both in raid and m+

[molten relic]

with a fun button for fury

[olive wraith]

Tank moves mobs? Ravager useless

[sullen dove]

more like too boring

[clever path]

Is ilvl increase in fated ?

[sullen dove]

yes probably

26 ilvl or 39 if they're weird again

[high basin]

They need to make roar work with AM that would make it giga fun

[dapper goblet]

@sullen dove if it was so boring then why did it win

[sullen dove]

🤖

[oak peak]

all i can say is imo, i liked s2 for M+, and my guild probably wont go too hard into s4 raiding. so i dont mind 🤷‍♂️ but thats not a s2 tier vs s3 tier issue. its a AM/rav vs annih issue

[dark elbow]

Ravager moves right?

[sullen dove]

yea but rly slowly

[tulip swallow]

it moves in theory but not in practice

[olive wraith]

Like a snail. And it doesn’t center on the group

[warm crag]

@sullen dove if s3 was so interesting why did no one 🤖

noob rolled

[dapper goblet]

if you chuck down ravager and then tank moves to get more stuff

thats on u

[sullen dove]

🤖 less powerful on more recent set

[olive wraith]

So if the mob moves ravager will eventually only hit the edge

[arctic stone]

10 times slower then mobs or boss

[tulip swallow]

the mobs could be getting perma slowed by a frost mage and ravager wouldn't be able to keep up

[warm crag]

why the fuck are you placing ravager when your tank is abt to move

[fluid cedar]

saw a warrior with whitefin axe MH, gholak OH the other day... is this some new tech ?

[olive wraith]

You act like pug tanks don’t have a mind of their own

[lofty scroll]

gotchew there mate

[dark elbow]

I press ravager every 27 seconds, no exceptions.

[sullen dove]

[warm crag]

yeah that is tech to do -10k dps

[sullen dove]

the cdr WILL be the exact same every single time no question.

[warm crag]

its not actually that bad

but a competetive ilvl 2h will be better

[spare otter]

How long does season 4 last?

[clever path]

Till pre patch of ww

[olive wraith]

War within looking like fall release

[clever path]

[spare otter]

Probably just take a break till then tbh

Cba doing old raids and more m+

[clever path]

Yeah I need to go back to work too or I’m probably going to get fired for not working 2 months now

[edgy widget]

possibly if you're completely lacking a 2h OH weapon

[clever path]

Just cba

[spare otter]

And S2 set doesn't seem great from what I've heard

[clever path]

Wow better

[spice sage]

batchesting over the thought of reclearing abberrus and vault!!!

[edgy widget]

I'd try it before knocking it

and while I don't expect much, we don't know what tuning they might concievably do

[sullen dove]

vault more exciting than aberrus

[spice sage]

cat shit vs dog shit

[arctic stone]

I still remembered good old 99.7% crit chance stacked bt from tier didn't actually crit

[spare otter]

Yea I'd probably enjoy it once I get used to it but idk don't have much motivation to old raids (even though I haven't done them before)

[sullen dove]

[tulip swallow]

just replace all of the bosses with rashok

rashok sweep

[snow edge]

Xeos has promised a LOT of tuning as part of his campaign

[open prairie]

vault insta better

[sullen dove]

surely wonka will deliver

[sinful spoke]

the parry god

[sullen dove]

make reck abandon the bis set for s2

[open prairie]

aug didnt exist

[sinful spoke]

[edgy widget]

I swear Smolderon parries more than normal bosses

[snow edge]

He’s agile

[edgy widget]

every time I check the logs, it's within expected range, but during the fight I swear I hear that fuckin sound 10x more than normal

[sullen dove]

more often than not tho i think youre encouraged to be behind smolderon

rashok has like 3 mechanics that literally say "get infront ofm e"

[dark elbow]

Stupid question, does smolderon Parry whilest in the middle?

[sinful spoke]

cause hes parrying the empowered bbs

[edgy widget]

you can't really stay behind Smolderon on Mythic

[sinful spoke]

mf so annying

[open prairie]

larodar

[spice sage]

magmorax's hitbox is the most scuffed thing I've played on this class this expansion, getting parried while being behind his front legs

????

[arctic stone]

True, especially 1.4m BB from tier under spear + spheres on execute

[sullen dove]

i feel like im behind him most of the time with small circle, or like just on the side of him but still behind the middle point

but yea idk just remove parry alltogether dogshit pointless mech

or readd spell resist chance for casters thanks

[edgy widget]

well, the general proper strat is to be on the sides with tornadoes, to give people room to move through him with the absorb circle

if you're behind him with tornadoes, they run into you

it's a bit easier now post-nerf though, sure

[sullen dove]

yea our people move more towards the edge but idk it works itself out most of the time

[edgy widget]

but bosses parry from the side, so unless you're like right within the edge of his ass cheek, he's still gonna get ya

[tulip swallow]

the insistence they have on parry is super weird, I don't get it

[edgy widget]

I know, I've been fighting it for years

[tulip swallow]

Like there was this interview and they basically just said "let us know if it's particularly bad on some bosses" then they don't do anything for those bosses anyway

[dapper goblet]

if season 1 won then yes

you'll be lucky to have warrior showing up in patch notes

[high basin]

s1

[acoustic furnace]

We're gonna be S tier boys I can feel it

In my bones

and my aching wrist from spamming rampage

[fringe flame]

you win s2 but you get zero tuning and end up at the bottom of dumpster.

[sullen dove]

but itll be fun at least

[warm crag]

that was the intent

[tulip bear]

Can’t believe anyone voted s2

[sullen dove]

🤖 moment

[snow edge]

What the hell, not sure about this campaign anymore

[wanton mirage]

60 mins of queing , getting not a single invite. I am not even queing impossible keys. I only que 1 key higher than what I have done on that dun on Forti. And yes I refused to push my rise 24 key to get the keys I want.

[dapper goblet]

cant change your mind now, season 2 already won.

[high basin]

just Cringe mplusers ruining the fun

[dapper goblet]

L bozo

[tulip swallow]

season 2 was a fine tier, like it was probably annoying for the guy that had to make the weakaura but otherwise it's not a problem imo

[dense elbow]

I just hope OF gets a baseline nudge, so I don't lose as much DPS this time around.

51% DMG sounds good

[sullen dove]

it was prolly like.. 10 minutes of work to make that wa or something idk not a wa guy

[olive wraith]

S2 was barely tier

[snow edge]

Xeos a textbook politician

[sullen dove]

s2 was like 80% the 2set ramp dmg bonus

bt was just kinda there

tbh thats not tru i think bt and the dot were about 10%, a testament to how shit the rest of our damage was

[willow cradle]

S2 enjoyers don't actually enjoy the tier, they just enjoy AM

[high basin]

s2 voters deserve some raging blow prio playstyle

[sullen dove]

they deserve a raging blow through their cranium

[main nacelle]

oh my god not AM

[dark elbow]

I fcking love AM

[fringe flame]

s2 voters banished to m+. No content but m+.

[olive wraith]

S2 was most def ramp

[violet condor]

true

[main nacelle]

if berserkers torment wasnt bugged then i wouldnt mind AM as much because of how awkward and annoying the desync is

[fringe flame]

dopamine addicts getting those neurons bangin when they see reck+ravager available

[sullen dove]

ramp typically did like 33-36% of your overall in raid at least i vaguely remember, not sure how it went down in m+ but prolly similar, unless theres like other random talents that affect that 10% ramp damage means the 2set is avg like 3-4% of your dps, when BT and the associated CSHB was typically like 10%, but again that includes taking those talents and taking away other talents you'd otherwise take

[sullen dove]

o yea didnt they fix this? or still no

couldve sworn they did like "fixed it the last week of the season it mattered now no one uses this talent anymore"

qol there ig...

[olive wraith]

They fixed it

[tulip swallow]

I heard they fixed it

[dense elbow]

It is fixed

[main nacelle]

wait they fixed it at the very end???

oh my god

[sullen dove]

[spice sage]

classic that it's fixed after people stop playing it

[warm crag]

can signet be removed pls ty

[sullen dove]

it was in prep for s2 tier they knew was gonna win

🤖 moment

[main nacelle]

i will say it is weird having a chunk of my damage just being trinkets

idk if that means the trinkets are so strong or fury is lacking

[gentle terrace]

S2 m+ was fun, I enjoy AM more than the current iteration

[dense elbow]

They knew, as they fudged the numbers as needed

[warm crag]

signet (the talent)

[main nacelle]

ah mb

[dark elbow]

I think you need some Anger Management in your life

[sullen dove]

no, i only reckless abandon

[olive wraith]

RA might actually crank

Since they doubled the damage

[sullen dove]

eh i mean...

its more possible than before

still not that likely

but what i mean

itd just be bb when you have stacks then cb otherwise?

cooking could commence

fire up the kitchen

[olive wraith]

Oh ya it would

[sullen dove]

1 cb > rampage

could work

[olive wraith]

I will def try to cook an ra build

[tulip swallow]

it's better in theory since you aren't turbo overcapping rage anymore

[olive wraith]

Wdym

[tulip swallow]

like part of the problem with RA was that you would only get one CB half the time

[main nacelle]

wait signet is torment im dumb

[tulip swallow]

because rampage every other global

[sullen dove]

still a slight chance for fury to pretend like it has somewhat respectable st damage with s2 set if RA works

[main nacelle]

had to look up wtf that talent was thinking there was one i was missing

[dense elbow]

You won't get the insane ramp spam loop from aM reck resets tho

[warm kelp]

Newer to the spec, been researching build and etc, just wondering why I don’t see improved raging blow chosen?

[sullen dove]

cuz annihilator doesnt have raging blow

[olive wraith]

We haven’t played RA since 10.0 when we had 2 CB charges

[snow edge]

Because swordish won’t let us pick it

[sullen dove]

tru

[fluid cedar]

this is the only thing i was thinking... i'm like bro just got smf at that point lol

[snow edge]

He’s a tyrant

[sullen dove]

i am villainous in nature

heinous, even

[olive wraith]

Someone remind me how much damage each stack of t30 gave

[sullen dove]

25%

[fluid cedar]

we love you swordish

[sullen dove]

:3

[snow edge]

Yes, best to keep him happy

[fluid cedar]

25% p sure

[sullen dove]

25% and 10% crt

[snow edge]

Mad swordish even worse

[sullen dove]

[olive wraith]

And we gonna hit like 5/6 stacks

[sullen dove]

usually yeah

[olive wraith]

So less than current bb damage

Fukn lame

[sullen dove]

yea

[high basin]

get the cashing weak aura ready guys

[unborn rover]

For a whopping 250k BT crit once every 6 years

[snow edge]

As unlikely as it seems there might actually be some kind of tuning though

[sullen dove]

any cachingers

[olive wraith]

Needs more dmg per stack

[open prairie]

bring back cb charge

[olive wraith]

Then maybe we could cook an ra build

[open prairie]

i wanna hear people complain

[sullen dove]

holy cb charge

[olive wraith]

Although cb would be solid between bt casts

[sinful spoke]

ahahahhahah

this is too good

[open prairie]

telling arms otp to play fury on skolex

[sullen dove]

thats the boss i think

was thinking "what boss did that actually fuck me on" most of the time

mightve been that

[open prairie]

why does everyone play pally

[sullen dove]

they're always underdogs

like not popular but somehow always pipe and can never die

[olive wraith]

Ret is pretty good rn

[snow edge]

Halondrus with CB charge was dangerous

[open prairie]

are they

scrolling down to find rets on meters

hmmmm

[olive wraith]

They seem to be

[high basin]

They sim more than us on ST btw

[olive wraith]

Their aoe is also solid

[open prairie]

idk whats best sims even

[olive wraith]

But they have the either or kind of thing

Can’t be decent at both

[open prairie]

saw some rogues simming over 250k

[high basin]

yeah

[sullen dove]

arms moment

[pliant lantern]

Rets major problem is the same Arms has, it can't do both ST and AoE...its one of the other

[olive wraith]

Arms jugg build actually kinda doesn’t

[summer quail]

they have it even worse than arms iirc

[fluid cedar]

caching is huge i was upset when i swapped pc's got a diff wa and it was a meow

[pliant lantern]

Probably, Arms at least got some love in 10.0.5

[high basin]

Also rets are tanky af

arms has almost no defensives

[olive wraith]

I mean I’m pretty sure fury is more tanky

[dapper goblet]

just wait for my war within campaign

cant have warrior be designed awful 4 expansions in a row

[olive wraith]

Arms has more defensive than fury

Just less passive healing/mitigstion

[sullen dove]

eh i mean.. dbts is pretty equal to ER i think, both 30% drs no? ER you heal DBTS you parry

[pliant lantern]

ER is a way better defensive than DbtS

[high basin]

If you ignore pain as arms you are a criminal

[sullen dove]

ip exists ig but holy cringe

[olive wraith]

Most of them take ip for high keys

[sullen dove]

ip doesnt equal dps boost????????? insta removed talent

[dark elbow]

10% avoidance passively, defence stance, spell reflect, sworddance, ignore pain

[olive wraith]

They’re mostly rage capped so it’s not that bad

[pliant lantern]

IP is fine to press in a rage economy that we currently have

[high basin]

i would only ip during prog and maybe on the hard bosses for the first few kills

[dapper goblet]

i remember pressing ignore pain as fury on sylvanas twice

[sullen dove]

yea ik they can use it perfectly fine, just feels cringe that button exclusively defensive now, bring back ogcd offensive ip

[inner zinc]

i mean ER with the lowered BT cooldown is nutty amounts of healing

[olive wraith]

Idk I didn’t like using it offensively

Like it didn’t match up with actual damage threats half the time

[high basin]

yeah but its better than nothing

[open prairie]

boomies most tanky if you think about it

[pliant lantern]

I would rather IP have no offensive ability like it does now, and buff its defensiveness for Arms

[open prairie]

bear form has no cd

[dapper goblet]

people were in tears when ip got changed from being a dps button

[high basin]

in my opinion the spec is barely playable now

[dapper goblet]

what a wild timeline that was

[thorny peak]

how do u see where other ppl pop cds?

[high basin]

oh yeah i was crying about it too

[pliant lantern]

lorrgs.io

[dark elbow]

We're in week 9 of no tuning on Arms letsgooo

[mortal mango]

The fury one button macro feels illegal wtf

[dense elbow]

Trackers, WAs, omnicd those kind of things

[pliant lantern]

Don't use it, its bad and serves next to no purpose

[dense elbow]

Makes spamming during reck window easier, that about it

[olive wraith]

Or fury

Screw arms buff fury

[sullen dove]

i mean... its funny if nothing else, but yea i dont really see any practical purpose, ig except there are like, 1/100 times i accidentally double rampage in a row when i get so much rage

[dark elbow]

Fury just had a PvP change

[open prairie]

could be worse

[dark elbow]

[open prairie]

we could be dps dks

[olive wraith]

Fair

Poor dk

[high basin]

i mean dks had 2 seasons of being really good no?

[dense elbow]

Well, we ain't going to be tuned for Lego in S4, so we will prob get a bump

[dapper goblet]

dps dk literally broken entire expansion besides this tier

no tears from dks

[snow edge]

Oh god, someone make a note of this so we don't fall for it again

[open prairie]

real

[sullen dove]

if anything it should be far more commonplace to have leggo next season than now

[open prairie]

honestly

[pliant lantern]

Yeah, during cooldowns I just make the concious effort to not spam so I don't double rampage....outside of cooldowns it might happen once a fight to me where I am spamming and just get some crazy WF proc

[open prairie]

i feel priest healers ask for more externals

than any dps spec

[olive wraith]

If by chance we don’t loot it before s4

[dense elbow]

we won't be tuned around it, surely

[olive wraith]

How would they implement the drop

[sullen dove]

uh they dont

you just keep running fyrakk

even on off fated weeks

[pliant lantern]

If they bring Lego into season 4, we will be tuned around it again

[sullen dove]

if those exist still

[open prairie]

you just get fucked

gg

[sullen dove]

thats how you did sylv still

and that didnt have any blp

[olive wraith]

So tough luck wait for Amir to rotate in

[sullen dove]

at least it was worse than this legendary

[olive wraith]

F

[sullen dove]

no you just do amir even off rotation

it still exists

[olive wraith]

Oh right

[sullen dove]

just isnt jumped up ilvl

[dapper goblet]

probably

[olive wraith]

Just lower ilvl

[open prairie]

syl you could buy the dagger

for dinar

[sullen dove]

yea dagger was purple

even tho dagger was better than bow

[dapper goblet]

praying we are not capped at 3 dinar the entire time

[sullen dove]

[dapper goblet]

that was awful

[open prairie]

it was better

[sullen dove]

man hunters got fuckedf on that leggo

shit was ass

then they got the "purple" legendary rasz bow

so idk

perfectly balanced

[snow edge]

I don't see them making wild changes to the dinar system though

[dapper goblet]

just need more than 3

lots of items this expansion

[snow edge]

I get the impression this fated will be largely the same, down to the dinar #

[olive wraith]

Fuck hunters are gonna be broken again

[pliant lantern]

And all 3 going into trinkets (Brand, Icon and Augury)

[olive wraith]

Why can’t that be us

[dapper goblet]

cant forget grief torch or dathea trinket

[olive wraith]

Oh I love torch

[young swan]

ashkandur

sark cloak

very cursed season

[modest condor]

ashkandur definitely

[dapper goblet]

i will be first global buying sark cloak

[sullen dove]

some1 said equal ilvl anvil better than brand which tbh i welcome

[modest condor]

im passing on sark cloak

[summer quail]

was just about to say this

[olive wraith]

I believe that

[sullen dove]

how would anvil work if you played anni tho

since it procs off rb

[modest condor]

it procs off of anni

[sullen dove]

does itj ust proc off anni instead

wack

[ashen socket]

Ashkandur axe upgrade and augury

[olive wraith]

Aug grieftorch

[summer quail]

i really hope anvil isn't the play. does not feel good to use

[olive wraith]

40% vers incoming

[young swan]

ur gonna be running beacon

[dense elbow]

Beacon

[warm crag]

icon omni pips

[modest condor]

hell yeah beacon

[olive wraith]

Oh fuck and the rings

[young swan]

we will not be using trinkets that give stats

[inner zinc]

damn, i was hoping it would be augury + OCE

[dapper goblet]

bring back scars trinket from jailer

[olive wraith]

Was it eranog that did the damage

Or brood

[hybrid raft]

NO

[young swan]

eranog

[warm crag]

bring back sepulcher as one of the fated raids please

[ashen socket]

Get ready for the signet brand and spiteful storm st combo

[young swan]

but diurna had good stats

[sullen dove]

first xeos take today

[pliant lantern]

Thats probably the AoE/adds setup

[sullen dove]

best trinket to ever grace this game

[dapper goblet]

everything i say is correct

[sullen dove]

time explosion on tindral roots

[dapper goblet]

theres just those who choose to not listen

[young swan]

wrong. convergence of fates, evil eye of galakras, archimonde trinkets

[modest condor]

coral

[warm crag]

xeos said legendary is amazing from day 1 while xan said it was shit and a dps loss

[young swan]

all better

[sullen dove]

boring. mid, idk what that is

[olive wraith]

So eranog ring. Double shadowflame patch

[dapper goblet]

XAN SAYING CONVERGENCE BEST TRINKET WHEN ITS LITERALLY AM

AND HE SAYS HE HATES AM

NO MAKE SENSE

[young swan]

i dont like

[dapper goblet]

yeaaahh

here we go

[young swan]

uptime slave

[warm crag]

boycott xan

[young swan]

in raid

[dapper goblet]

gottem

[young swan]

i like

am

[dapper goblet]

GOTTEM

GOTTEM

[young swan]

in m+

[dapper goblet]

rekt

[warm crag]

die am die

[dapper goblet]

i got xan crying in the club right now

[young swan]

I LIKE AM

[ashen socket]

Bring back battle cry

[dense elbow]

AM is neat, just not the whole holy trinity of talents that go with

[summer quail]

what about PM? you discriminate the daytime?

[young swan]

or just make RA actually augment reck

crazy

[opal monolith]

My brother, reject anime, return to the light

[young swan]

if only there was a talent tree

where that occurred

[sullen dove]

am would be like 100x better if unbridled ferocity was completely removed and you just gained a bit more cdr from spending rage

you REALLY feel it during cds and youre not fucking useless outside of cds

[main nacelle]

genshin jumpscare

[sullen dove]

cds being having reck buff

[young swan]

or just make UF not a capstone and remove power from it so it feels like a fun lil proc instead of having ur gameplay revolve around it

[sullen dove]

make uf proc an enrage that doubles your mastery

[opal monolith]

Ursocs Frenzy?

[sullen dove]

not doubles but like, more mastery

[young swan]

yeah that

[dark elbow]

I really really really like AM

[opal monolith]

Abbreviations break my brain

[warm crag]

die am die

[young swan]

unbridled ferocity

[opal monolith]

Aaaah

[dense elbow]

Did you play AM during S3?

[inner zinc]

AM is love, AM is life

[royal oxide]

how we feeling about being S2 gamers?

[dapper goblet]

we're up big

best thing that could have happened

[dark elbow]

Yes in Arms

[young swan]

i will play monk

[shadow junco]

sad

[opal monolith]

[sullen dove]

we are up big, arms 📈📈📈

[dapper goblet]

you guys can still play anni in season 2

[sullen dove]

surely

surely xeos would not willingly spread misinformation in skyhold fury channel

can trust this man with my life

[dense elbow]

Ya in fury here, hunnybun. Your statement doesn't hold. You are reduced to saying you 'like it a lot'.

[dapper goblet]

never once spread misinformation

i try to teach those who need teaching

[sullen dove]

🧎‍♂️

[opal monolith]

Im doing an anni SMF build with double shockwave capstone and nobody will stop me

[dark elbow]

I... Said i liked it

[sinful spoke]

how yall like my macro

[dapper goblet]

i'll be sure to warn the masses about you

[sullen dove]

first real warrior player in this server

[opal monolith]

Good

[sinful spoke]

stole it from another warrior

[warm crag]

reporting

[sullen dove]

gimme pls

i will make great use of it in approx 5 weeks

[sinful spoke]

come val

[dark elbow]

I need

[sinful spoke]

i trade

[dense elbow]

I am glad you corrected yourself

[sullen dove]

trade how i cant copy in wow chat

dm

[summer quail]

instamute xD

[sinful spoke]

oh uy want the mcro

[dark elbow]

....what? Xd

[sullen dove]

i enjoy funy chinese copypasta

have 1 for rasz and another for fyrakk

peak

[sinful spoke]

mad no axe

[sinful spoke]

man

the tindral one

is so funny

[summer quail]

i have axe, i am mad my signet is normal tho

[sullen dove]

it might be tindral and fyrakk together?

[dark elbow]

Give me the tindral Chinese copy pasta

[sullen dove]

like the first part is orange man kill root and fire tree but then it also says like heal ghosts

[opal monolith]

The fabled orange stick, said to only exist in myth or in the hands of holy paladin aotc gamers

[dapper goblet]

best thing about tindral is when you're hatewatching and post the tree ascii art

[sinful spoke]

ME TOO

[sullen dove]

ascii tree was like, top 5 peak moments

in that race

[young swan]

orange text 橙色文字 2% damage effect 強化血浴 Enhanced blood bath
强大的深红池 fatal blow 致命一擊 third jewelry slot 第三個飾品槽 dream rendering 夢想渲染
500000 Three global variables 500000 三個全域變數

[sinful spoke]

oh my god

[dapper goblet]

i dont get the last line

[sinful spoke]

3 gcds

3 seconds

[young swan]

500k damage 3 gcd

[sullen dove]

so big

[summer quail]

last part not critting xD

[dapper goblet]

25k dps increase xan in tears

cof good but am bad

hate it here

[sinful spoke]

bro ive seen my axe crit 1.4 million

on tswift prog

[young swan]

funel

[warm crag]

xan you should go jog on the beach

you're washed

[young swan]

i live in canada

[sullen dove]

orange man 橙色人 fire roots 火根 eat balls 吃丸子 heal ghost 治愈鬼魂 stop scream 停止尖叫 Eliminate all political opponents 消灭所有政治对手 watch laser 观看激光 go seed 去种子 save tree 拯救树

[young swan]

we dont have those

[dark elbow]

Im sorry to hear that

[young swan]

why

[summer quail]

means you're french

[young swan]

it actually doesnt mean that!

but also yeah it sucks to be canadian atm

[dapper goblet]

동물 성추행 SPACE EXPLORER 전사 패더 전문 꽃 HERBALISM 피커 혈통 혈통 사탕 판매자 willywonka 기본 신화 bonus roll 레벨링 쉴드 CLICKER
언 바운드 망토 EIGHT FINGERS 이십오 바인딩 BIG RED BUTTON 깊은 상처 XEOSW

[young swan]

economy in shambles

[opal monolith]

CANADA IS LANDLOCKED?? WHAT HAPPENED

[summer quail]

there are actually only french canadians. frfr

[sinful spoke]

powerful chicken 强力鸡 dodge magic swirl 闪避魔法漩涡 flying dragon 飛龍 birdman become tree 鳥人變樹 soak the seed 浸泡种子 excavator 挖掘机

[nova garnet]

Orange stick 中火位 big damage 洞等 latin america 場か

[pliant prism]

also only one road

[dark elbow]

Excavator xdddd

[young swan]

fucking excavator 💀

[sinful spoke]

io dont know man i got it off general raid chat

[warm crag]

@young swan

[dapper goblet]

some good classic raid ones too

[young swan]

i miss bfa...

[hearty surge]

First day done nice

[dapper goblet]

well you're a freak

and bfa was awful

so

[sullen dove]

🫡

[dapper goblet]

bfa worse than sl

[young swan]

man

[dapper goblet]

by a mile

cant tell me otherwise

[hearty surge]

Dont use chinese, you will get chat locked

[opal monolith]

8.3 was cool

[nova garnet]

Orange stick 中火位

This line needs to be added to everything

[sullen dove]

mbg ww spam is when fury peaked in terms of class design

nothing can come close unfortunately

📈

[opal monolith]

Woosh woosh woosh woosh woosh

[dapper goblet]

so you didnt play fury in BFA at the end with doubis hammer of dawn weps + bote...

[dark elbow]

I started playing in SL, how was BFA bad?

[dapper goblet]

expansion sucked

class design bad

[wooden cedar]

How do y’all feel about the new s4 tier set bonuses l?

[dapper goblet]

best arms warrior trait removed because blizzard couldnt balance it

[young swan]

imagine if anima was player power related

[hearty surge]

Only thing good about bfa was the raids

they were great

[dark elbow]

[hearty surge]

everything else

nah

[dapper goblet]

agreed

nyalotha trash might have been overkill

[hearty surge]

yeh but

[young swan]

ep was nice

bod was fine

[hearty surge]

Crucible best endboss ever

[sinful spoke]

nyalotha trash was prime boe farming

[young swan]

did not like nya

[summer quail]

going from end of legion to start of bfa felt like someone chopped my balls off. class felt so neutered

[dapper goblet]

week 1 900% arms mastery buff

quirky

legion arms died for this

[dense elbow]

And like balls, it never came back

[hearty surge]

They had to somehow

make speccs feel good after legion

[young swan]

arms got castrated going into bfa and never recovered

[hearty surge]

kinda

monka

[summer quail]

arms still doesn't have wb and cs separate. it's been 6 years...

[hearty surge]

Yeh

[dapper goblet]

be sure to give feedback on the upcoming alpha guys they'll listen

[summer quail]

[dark elbow]

They have a Warrior class designer?

[hearty surge]

Yes hes a regular on critcakes stream

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[dense elbow]

Nop

[sinful spoke]

i will

i get in alpha cauise dev friends and family

[young swan]

its doomed

[summer quail]

was just about to make the same joke

[hearty surge]

Yeh its doomed

[summer quail]

he's even a mod there

[hearty surge]

crit doesnt like me enough for me to be mod

[opal monolith]

Ye the warlock one on his lunch breaks

[summer quail]

ye me neither, i thought us sharing nationalities would be enough

[hearty surge]

Maybe its because I ask him if he has legendary every stream

[young swan]

i got crit yellow name and im not even vip

wcyd

[dark elbow]

Its doomed

[hearty surge]

Can you get me yellow name too?

I will give you vip in my stream

[young swan]

no

[sinful spoke]

xan get ne yellow name

owo

[summer quail]

maybe it's because i ask what his stats are every stream so that i can copy them and be rank 1

[hearty surge]

Xan doesnt like me either

[oblique trail]

Xan give me yellow name and I will share your youtube rants to at least one server

[young swan]

u quit too much

[hearty surge]

I will share your youtube rants on healsluts

I promise

[oblique trail]

ok

[summer quail]

btw only boss damage parses count right?

[oblique trail]

you literally quit all of shadowlands

nerd

[young swan]

and now im back

[oblique trail]

yeah?

I took a break from S2

[sinful spoke]

and he was valid

[hearty surge]

Why would you quit shadowlands

raids were great

[dark elbow]

Yes

[young swan]

maw

[sinful spoke]

no shot bro actually asked this

[young swan]

warrior in cn

[sinful spoke]

💀

torghast

maw grind

[young swan]

[dapper goblet]

you have more freedoms as a non yellow name

[weak tartan]

is there an addon to add more talent loadout? I dont know why blizzard make it max 3

[dapper goblet]

dont be fooled

[sinful spoke]

1 month long rep grind for belt leggo

💀

[young swan]

i was weak-willed after islands

[hearty surge]

Warrior in CN was fine :)

[summer quail]

thank you, then i am almost close to being good. 0.1 off

[young swan]

needed to reset mental state (it has not gottent better)

[hearty surge]

I will never forget the 26 hour island grind with my guildies

[sinful spoke]

conduits

[ashen socket]

Legion best expac

[sinful spoke]

souil ash

soul cinder

💀

[oblique trail]

gg Xan hates me

[summer quail]

ofc it hasn''t gotten better. you main warrior

[sinful spoke]

anima

[oblique trail]

hate Xan too

[hearty surge]

Wdym

if you only raid

warrior is good

[sinful spoke]

?

[hearty surge]

just gotta ignore m+

:)))

[young swan]

yeah unfortunately we just got 6 years of bland warrior design

gg

[young swan]

man

i do not hate u

[sinful spoke]

i do

[dapper goblet]

oh also BFA was when they pushed gcd's down our throats

and we fought the good fight

[trim solstice]

bruh cant believe that season 2 tier won

[young swan]

was bfa target caperoni too

[oblique trail]

oh wow alls forgiven

[young swan]

it was wasnt it

[summer quail]

unfortunately the stockholm syndrome is affecting me too hard. anytime i play something else i want to return to warrior

[dapper goblet]

think target cap was SL?

cant remember

[young swan]

nah stat dr's were SL

[dapper goblet]

lotta cringe shit recently..

[young swan]

target capperoni was bfa

[dapper goblet]

hard to keep track