fury

[serene oar]

What's the likelihood that the build will be similar to what they were during their current season?

[edgy widget]

only people acting horrible are the people who are acting horrible

[flat river]

cause we like to have fun?

[plush juniper]

Also because the s2 build doesnt take OF at all right? So s2 has much less access to aoe outside of 5 target (except ravager which is still only 8 target)

[pliant summit]

Session 3 has always been better dmg it’s just not fun the only people that like it don’t like the class they like the numbers ses2 is just more fun to play hands down and if it’s low power at the start they’ll buff it

[warm crag]

huh??

[stable frost]

S2 is one of the most obnoxious set bonuses fury has had in many years, I hope you get parried every single time

[clever path]

Fated season means no hotfixes. You seen how many buffs warriors got this season

[edgy widget]

not much less access, it's really just a matter of Ravager (slightly stronger/longer cd) vs OF (slightly weaker/lower CD)

[wild mica]

Explain how current spec is janky please because I don't see it. There's no downtime if you play it right and OF is up more often than reck/ravager was.

[young swan]

they will buff us guys surely

[lyric panther]

I like both playstyles and the class so I guess that sinks that idea

[clever path]

That’s very rude bud

[static bison]

SEASON 2 POG bye bye aniquilator build

[plush juniper]

Ok i see thank you for the explanation, I didnt realize Ravager was that strong

[arctic copper]

if arms is tuned better than fury, all this will be forgotten so fast

[stable frost]

It's also correct, I don't care. That bonus is godawful to play around

[clever path]

Its not

[frank dawn]

It would be truly wild if a few thousand votes dictates the direction of the game for millions of players.

[terse idol]

I dont think it mattered which set we get we aren't catching enough buffs to replace mage as the main character

[robust basin]

I can literally feel my testosterone shrinking when playing annihilator. It’s not fury without raging blow.

[sullen dove]

millions is a lil embellished

[warm crag]

billions must vote

[edgy widget]

Ravager can be strong, the problem is actually hitting everything with it - OF has a better range and is instant, so not subject to shit moving around

[lament hamlet]

why have billions when you could have...millions?

[clever path]

Okay, yeah. Don’t hate the player , hate the game. We are all brothers after all

[warped bone]

Because when you get on a streak with no crits S3 is just god awful. If you had same amount of uptime of recklessness as S2 then ye sure. It would feel better. But you don't

[edgy widget]

Should care, don't need to be a jerk about it

[next canopy]

Bruh did my message just get erased. Anduin

[wanton mirage]

Then, you would be surprised if you learnt a handful of people who never played warrior involed in creation of almost all previous tier sets

[stable frost]

No brother of mine intentionally trolls the entire spec voting for a set bonus that literally feels worse than not having any bonus

[compact knot]

man i am 3k io with 50+ 20 keys timed and cant get accepted to a +17 atal dazar, game is over

[plush juniper]

Ok that makes sense. I do prefer the OF builds for that reason. In m+ situations i find myself getting massive use out of it in 15+ target pulls

[wild mica]

In m+ with s3 we also have insane sustain and can take shockwave without feeling bad. with s2 you can't press bloodthirst so you don't heal and never take shockwave

[sullen dove]

good thing theres a bad luck protection talent specifically to avoid that, bloodcraze nothing like that for unbridled ferocity

[edgy widget]

S3 is very bursty on those big pulls yes, especially when the targets are so spread out or being pulled around that Ravager won't hit them all consistently

[shell jackal]

ye losing the healing factor & the shockwave utility is going to fucking suck, too, ngl. season 2 missed out on those big time and it felt awful.

[warped bone]

Aa yes. The talent i quite often manage to go all the way up to NOW it will crit. Feels So good >.>

[edgy widget]

Shockwave isn't really a factor, it's the same cost for either

[compact knot]

make AM reduce odyns fury cd xd

[clever path]

Perfect timeline

[plush juniper]

For all the arguing about s3 vs s2, we still won't get invited to keys on afflicted or incorp weeks 🥲

[clever path]

I cant wait to come into the doom and gloom this discord becomes when s4 comes around. And ill be laughing in arms.

[unborn rover]

👏 Nice job. Fury is about to be a lot less fun. Nice knowing you S3. It was really fun while it lasted.

[sullen dove]

yea honestly s4 just looking like an arms season simply, esp if s1 won we back to cleave sandwiches, kinda actually looking forward to that

[warped bone]

I think I prefer having 85-90% recklessness over that thank you very much @sullen dove 😄

[wild mica]

arms didnt even get s2 so definitely not playing that. time to full time evoker

[clever path]

Arms s2 sucks too lol

Gloom and doom has already started

[clever escarp]

thank goodness

[plush juniper]

Yeah arms s1 seems hype with the build variety available

[terse idol]

S2 arms was pretty lackluster on the aoe

[lyric panther]

You'd think they'd learn from the Grimrail depot vote

[compact knot]

idk id say this tier set or season 3 tierset is a win in my books, both felt equally fun to me

[frosty spade]

I feel that Season 3 is better, that's why I don't understand how the hell I won S2

[sullen dove]

this set is season 3

[clever path]

I however am glad to see that other specs / classes have their own disagreements, and not that we are only like that

[flat river]

because it's better

[robust basin]

Also, they did say they were going to rebalance the tiers. So why aren’t we chilling tf out until we see what changes will be made

[tardy lark]

people have different feelings 🤷‍♀️

[fringe flame]

They ain't gonna do shit

[warped bone]

No doubt about it. S3 is better. I find S2 more fun thus that got my vote.

[edgy widget]

probably because nobody actually believes them

[ashen socket]

Just because they said they are going to balance it doesn't mean they are going to do a good job

[edgy widget]

nor can anyone really agree on what's "better" in the first place

[lyric panther]

The damage profiles will likely be the same even if they update the bonuses strength so S2 will still be weak ST and zero execute

[compact knot]

talking about the one that won

[stable frost]

how do you "rebalance" around a set bonus that can be nullified by an unlucky parry, or that forces you to sit there not able to use one of your rage generators because you haven't stacked up enough of a gobshite buff yet?

[dusky carbon]

kinda funny how war is the only class which such a wild NA/EU opinion split lol

[opal monolith]

FUCKING EU FROGS MADE S2 WIN?

[lapis lake]

the damage increase from S3 > S2 does not make up for the fact of the garbage ass playstyle season 3 has

[sly sky]

Hey I voted for s3 :( agree on the frogs tho

[clever path]

So nice to hear that my American brother

[opal monolith]

Belgium is in the USA now?

[next canopy]

Why am I getting put in the penalty box? Can anyone explain?

[edgy widget]

for exactly the reason it said in the timeout note

because you keep spamming pointless gifs

[shell jackal]

you're consistently posting gifs that are getting deleted. stop and you'll stop getting timed out.

also @opal monolith i'm from EU and I wanted S3 too, min broder i krist. nothing we can do about the vote manipulation. it is what it is. saddle up.

[next canopy]

Pointless to who? Isn’t half the communication in here “pointless” and it didn’t highlight that I was banned because of using gifs. Lighten up Jesus bro.

[opal monolith]

we weep together Brother 😦

[calm swallow]

How the heck did s2 win? It was in the doghouse for such a long time what happened?

[edgy widget]

you know what's really eye opening is how strong of opinions some people have

I have pretty well dedicated the last two decades of my life to this game, and honesty I couldn't care less about the result of the vote - it's just another tier to me; it'll be over in 6 months either way

And yet people who I have literally never seen talk in here before coming in screaming and losing their fucking mind about one versus the other as if it's the most important thing in the world... it's very eye opening

[stuck bison]

please also time out people who calls others frogs, metally disabbled etc etc.

[edgy widget]

I have been, but please let me do the moderating

ain't tryin to start no witch hunts in here

[next canopy]

I got timed out for using a gif? That is against discord policy?

[flat river]

i just have one thing to say:

[warped bone]

What exactly is frog supposed to mean btw?

[edgy widget]

you've said it like 4 times man, it's old - move on

[shell jackal]

i think the time for that has passed, its been going hog-wild the last 5 hours or so lmao

[ashen socket]

Bro just let it go and move on

[lapis swift]

Real

[sullen dove]

said the same thing 20 minutes ago thats crazy, boring ass fucking button you hit 200 times a fight very cool

[tardy lark]

lotta lore there

[olive wraith]

I enjoy it

[opal monolith]

timing someone out cause they said frog? You okay there bud

[wild mica]

wasnt execute a bigger factor for s2 set? i could be misremembering, but i thought cruel strikes was more impactful last season

[clever belfry]

is it real gaming hours already

[edgy widget]

execute has never been overly important in multitarget

[upbeat sentinel]

All I read was “ribbit, ribbit, ribbit”

[terse idol]

Archi getting overworked as mod in here

[edgy widget]

but either way, cruel strikes is a pretty weak talent

[next canopy]

Trying to understand what is going on. Been in this discord for years and have barely chatted in the past weeks and get a ban… and I’m on 1 min timer responses lol

[warped bone]

Only insult linked to frog that i can think about has to do with french people?

[eternal rampart]

Apologies for the out of nowhere direct question, but pending any imaginary/copium tuning, this will be a very considerable loss of priority dmg/st and cratering our overall dmg in execute range, correct?

[edgy widget]

meh I'm watching tv

[clever path]

I mean end of the day, as archi said tiers just tier. I don’t really like they did it they way they did but eh it’ll give me time off the game to await the new expansion

[clever path]

Yes the Skyhold is up in arms now with people who just enjoy playing season 2 and who voted for what they like are getting semi flamed for the choice of one self Being called names and other stuff. Feels nice ngl 😘 Oh and being from EU automatically brands you being incapable of anything

[fringe flame]

I keep seeing people say the playstyle of s3 is garbage, shit, bad, etc. What exactly is bad about it compared to s2?

[edgy widget]

Yes, single target will drop dramatically

[wild mica]

the channel is on slow mode that's not just you

[willow cradle]

Cruel Strikes is pretty mid for Fury, regardless of set(other than S1 and even then)

[tardy lark]

you'll prolly find some if you go far enough back searching for Tmy

[flat river]

real

[pliant ridge]

whirlwind to fill gcds is bad

[next canopy]

Ah ok ty

[upbeat sentinel]

We go from A tier back to D

[hollow jasper]

low key hoping blizz takes all the votes and then just picks the ones with the lowest vote numbers and is like dont worry we are gonna tune this trust us. just to fuck with all the people getting their undies in a twist over a fucking set bonus

[edgy widget]

you didn't get a ban, you got timed out for 5 minutes and again there was a citation which specifically said "please stop spamming pointless gifs"

Everyone is on slowdown mode (except me, suck it nerds) because this channel has gotten unhinged lately

[dusky carbon]

zero class tuning for 10.2.5 kinda feels like they legit think everything is fine for the moment tbh

[shell jackal]

you know the best state of execute for me? when everything was harmonised and all warriors could get along in perfect holy matrimony?

the legion version of ashen juggernaut that turned us into absolute gigachads. that was the shit. stacking that to like, 60 stacks, and absolutely crushing mobs with 2m execute crits b2b2b2b2b - that was it. the peak of our class, imo. and guess what? we had odyn's fury at that time, too.

[bright falcon]

if like s2... stinky? if like s3.... epic. Been mulling over the facts for a while this is the objective conclusion I've come to. BOSH

[young swan]

im unaffected by slowmode too :3

[edgy widget]

demoting Xan

[young swan]

man

[sullen dove]

[robust basin]

Season 3 does heavily out preform season 2. However, season 2 feels ages better to play.

It’s a rare occurrence in retail where fun beats the meta

[dreamy trellis]

But the outcome of the vote is pretty much fury lore accurate i guess

[opal monolith]

Get over yourself buddy

[stable frost]

s2 feels fucking horrible to play, I hope you're all fucking bottom tier

[clever escarp]

2 button rotation slam anihilator and s2 just feels faster even though both have same APM

[edgy widget]

quit being combative

[eternal rampart]

It's a bit sad that we are going to lose significant st/prio when we finally weren't throw pick on that regard, other grievances/preferences aside.

[pliant ridge]

performance shouldn't matter when they said they would balance whatever was chosen

[upbeat sentinel]

now we'll just be awful at both. Also they're not going to do any balance changes. They're doing virtually none tomorrow, and they will do virtually none for s4 lmao

[edgy widget]

2 button rotation RB Rampage feels the same to me 🤷‍♂️

[clever path]

That is not true and you know it

[robust basin]

That is why I voted season 2

[mellow swan]

You trust blizzard to balance appropriately?

[flat river]

maybe they will make it unparriable

[young swan]

u trust them?

[eternal rampart]

Painfully aware yeah, tuning is beyond wild copium dreams considering the very little attention we've gotten over the expansion.

[calm swallow]

Big this

[austere lark]

there's a whole lot of warrior players being warrior players in here

[upbeat sentinel]

Then you got sold snake oil my man

[next canopy]

This more like a shitty college seminar with a power hungry TA than it is a gaming discord now. This is government control man. They muzzling us! Fight the power!

[unborn rover]

Blizzard can't be trusted with anything. Whoever thought this poll was fun and exciting was terribly wrong

[summer quail]

it's crazy how divisive this voting is xD

[frank dawn]

Blizzard has always done a fantastic job tuning warrior. I can’t imagine why anyone should be worried about the tuning.

[pliant ridge]

balance changes would be made regardless; you can also speculate that they would undertune s3 tierset going into s4 and it would be bad; thats why just vote for what feels better

[clever path]

LMAO

[wild mica]

[stable frost]

do that and make the buff not interact until it's high enough when you hit BT to guarantee a crit so you can still use it before that and maybe it'll be tolerable, but you know they won't do shit

[edgy widget]

ok, if you can't act like an adult then I really will ban you; grow up. Simply asking you to stop spamming gifs over and over is not a major ask

[flat river]

[willow cradle]

Yeah they kinda failed to "balance" anything last season and it took Blizz till 10.0.5 to even make our Tier set not a loss to play, so I heavily doubt that lmao

[upbeat sentinel]

They're not gonna actually do any balance tuning man, they're literally not even making a new raid or visuals for the sets

[shell jackal]

ngl man but i haven't seen anyone else spam-posting gifs off-CD like you have been, just relax.

[edgy widget]

for real

[clever path]

Trust in Blozzard

[next canopy]

I’ve sent 2 gifs in 48 hours

[calm swallow]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahaahahhahajahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaj

[wild mica]

anyone who trusts blizzard havent been playing this game long enough

[frosty scroll]

wait

[hollow glen]

even archi specced into anger management irl right now

[chilly iron]

They will do a 0.5% upgrade for s2 and call it a day.

[robust basin]

This mean I voted for what feels superior to play. So I’ll be alright lol.

[opal monolith]

can you let it go?

[edgy widget]

man I'm chillin, watchin TV and eatin a salad

[stable frost]

like I said, s2 voters have very strange functioning brains that do not fit the norm

[feral quartz]

there was a time where people were spamming frog gifs, flaming ppl that came in here with actual questions of relevancy for warrior, and shooing away new players. fuck all that noise archi did no wrong there

[flat river]

me after s2 was announced as the winner

[tardy lark]

[terse idol]

I'm surprised by your choice

[next canopy]

It’s just wild how people are coming at me like I post in here all day lol. I’ve let it go and I’m joking around. I haven’t said anything bad.

[burnt stone]

Brothers, what were the results of your vote?
T30 won, right?

[summer quail]

yes

[dull sierra]

s2 yea

[wild mica]

what kind of salad tho

[frosty spade]

fury Warrios is good in S3

[fiery thorn]

BASTED AND BREADPILLED

[frosty scroll]

s2 fury did win? tf

[chilly iron]

The salad in the burrito doesn't really count as a salad

[edgy widget]

kitchen sink, man it got everything in it

[wanton mirage]

This voting is the 1st time ever in retail history rite?

[lapis lion]

it wasnt tho, and youve no idea if theyre filtering out multi character votes or not

[edgy widget]

black olives, green olives, chicken, ham, bacon bits, cheese, lil cucumber, apple, croutons

[next canopy]

I posted 1 gif and it got deleted so I posted again to see wat would happen and now I’m spamming supposedly. Anyways gg

[opal monolith]

this guy

[edgy widget]

they weren't, I have videos voting on multiple characters and watching the results go up in real time

[willow cradle]

Oh man haven't had green olives in a while

[dull sierra]

cowfarmers what did u vote

[edgy widget]

also you don't get 30% extra votes overnight without some kind of manipulation lol

[eternal rampart]

I think a bunch of people will enjoy the possible return of AM build at first but will eventually realize the gap in power from lack of proper tuning and might regret it later on when fury specifically is singled out from relevant content due to its already growing weaknesses on top of it, which will obviously impact fun via ability to push etc with your preferred build

[feral quartz]

voter fraud

[burnt stone]

T30 !

[north edge]

God damn we are gonna suck in s4

[edgy widget]

after the first day of polls, average growth was ~500 new votes per day. On Saturday, Fury got 4,000 overnight

[lapis lion]

i meant after the fact, your vote is easily tied to your account ID, and it's likely as simple as a DB checkbox on the backend that says unique votes

[clever path]

I wrote them a ticket today about that “My brother deleted my character Paladin and restored useless hunter as a prank” they replied that they cannot do that, cannot restore because they have no tools and because it’s against ToS and I can restore the character after 7 days” So I said “I need that char to raid, I have been loyal customer , I bought giga epic edition pre order and have spent a lot of money over the years on mounts in store , tokens and other stuff” said that It just seems that I am not being respected. And after they wrote me in game chat A GAME MASTET WROTE TO ME, in game and said “I had a chat with my boss, we restored your character” and that it wasn’t because of my giga edition pre order

[frosty scroll]

votes r rigged fucking real

[edgy widget]

I mean it's possible they could do that after the fact, I'm just saying that they didn't on the user end; the total # of votes would have dropped back down and it has not

[spice sage]

[lapis lion]

Oh, yeah, for sure. And if they do that, S3 is almost certainly the winner. Something horrendous happened with the votes overnight. S3 winning handily for a week and then...? I think all of the people thinking we're getting S2 for real are coping.

[upbeat sentinel]

giga epic edition

[edgy widget]

what region did you vote in? Cause TW/KR had no votes

[north edge]

Imagine spending 20 gcds to build up a BT, only for it to hit just as hard as it currently does but you currently have 3 charges rn instead of 1

[sleek parrot]

so much coping

[upbeat sentinel]

You're genuinely just covering your eyes and saying "I see nothing" about it lmao

[opal monolith]

this is pin worthy spread the truth

[lapis lion]

I'm really not, the vote manipulation is blatantly obvious. 800% increase in votes overnight all for a specific choice?

[robust basin]

How I’m sleeping knowing season 2 won.

[frosty scroll]

It was me guys. I duped the votes! Don't believe me? Watch me post this comment on my 9834 other accounts!

[clever escarp]

worth it

[sleek parrot]

I see several videos that came out in the past 2-3 days which advocate for season 2 fury

[warped bone]

As long as i don't have to play S3 then I'm happy

[dreamy trellis]

Comparing 2 diffrent gear levels aint really fair

[wanton saddle]

The three discords I'm in for various guilds the warriors are absolute animals rn

[north edge]

We’re gonna need like a 15% aura buff to make up for the tier

[next canopy]

You lose. S2 win. Get over it.

[lapis lion]

People are gonna be salty when they actually release the results. S2 didn't win, lmao. And you're just reading a WoWhead post, not a bluepost.

[upbeat sentinel]

2.5k swing in 3ish hours is insanity man, it wasn't the videos, it was people figuring out how to cheat it. And again, why would the videos only DRASTICALLY ALTER the vote on EU and do nothing on NA?

[summer quail]

you act like s31 is 15% stronger than s30

[edgy widget]

It's about 8-9% stronger in ST last I checked

[terse idol]

All this rage making me wanna go play the game

[mellow swan]

Hey then we can upgrade the leggo after 2 months and be only 3% behind

[burnt stone]

To play PVP, I asked a friend who plays in North America to vote.

[edgy widget]

ah

[summer quail]

i thought it was about 6-7%, which is pretty big as well tbf.

[cosmic lance]

Theres a larger ST diff than there is aoe

[eternal rampart]

Would an AM build further devalue the legendary on use? Due to being locked to the cast and not spending rage during it. It is possibly too early to think about that but in theory it sounds like it could be impactful.

[warped bone]

Do everybody just ignore the fact they said they would buff the other tiers? Or just have zero faith

[ashen socket]

As much as I want that to be true I doubt anything changes

[rose bay]

why cant i mix and match the set can i hvae s2 4 set and s1 2 set

[lapis lion]

@me when blizzard announces you're playing S3 again in S4 ❤️

[calm swallow]

I've watched blizzard try to balance things for 20 years. No faith.

[upbeat sentinel]

Zero faith lmao

[wanton mirage]

Guys, the future is uncertain whatever set won.

T31 might have won and we might have no hotfix coming next season.

But now T30 won and blizz noticed there is massive power gap and gave us gigabuff.

If there is no buff aka, worst case scenario, I will go play Arms.

[clever path]

But Chris Metzen is back, he surely will make sure Blizzard works

[olive wraith]

Might be arms tier next season

[warped bone]

Fair i guess. Wait and see what they do about the vote tampering

[forest rose]

so we are getting season 2 tier 😄

[next canopy]

💪🏽

[upbeat sentinel]

Hopefully they ban hammer people that did it excessively.

[calm swallow]

Ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha

[warm crag]

i will never be punished

[shell jackal]

isn't metzen back helming the writing team? not the game dev/balancing team? or am i misremembering

[burnt stone]

The Anni build is not attractive in AoE, so I naturally thought that T30 would win easily, but I was surprised that it was closely matched with T31.

[forest rose]

hes one man, sure hes our warchief and he means the best but hes still just one man, you cannot expect miricles overnight

[inland flame]

I was about to say I'm kind of glad its over but now until Blizz announces the tuning people are going to argue about which one was the right call anyway. And even then afterwards, ofc.

[clever path]

Yes he is but come on now, he gonna hype up balancing department which is just across the room and gg

[dull sierra]

people will argue about it until tww

[upbeat sentinel]

we'll be trash in tww too tbf

[clever escarp]

now its just silly how mad you are about it xd

[shell jackal]

potentially, either way i'm still happy the guys back lmao

[edgy widget]

They’ll stop arguing once the S4 “I’m not getting invited to M+” complaints begin

[olive wraith]

I’d laugh my ass off if fury is only anni in next xpac

[wanton mirage]

Discord chat is the real fated season blizzard planned.

[clever path]

No brother , we are going S tier the major leagues Jackie S tier with slayer

[dull sierra]

"im not getting invited because these eu people voted s2" 🤓

[upbeat sentinel]

That's not even me being mad, if you excessively exploit something like this you should get banned lmao

[summer quail]

the classic complaining about fury will always happen in here for m+. "fury needs more utility"

[frosty scroll]

r u upset season 2 won archi

[shell jackal]

no he said earlier he chillin, he got a kickass salad

[terse idol]

He wrote a big post about how he don't give a fuck which won

[edgy widget]

Not at all, I enjoyed S2, I just like S3 better

[clever escarp]

❤️

[olive wraith]

Really

[oblique trail]

wtf

[strong pond]

Jfc. Insane.

[clever path]

Bro wtf

[stable frost]

average S2 supporter lmao

[wild mica]

lmao what the fuck

[warped bone]

Why i just tank when i wana pug keys on war. Nobody ever wants us

[upbeat sentinel]

I've not seen anyone discuss ideas on what utility we should actually get, just people saying "GIVE US BLOODLUST" as if giving us something that's shared across a bunch of classes actually makes us better

[wanton mirage]

Wait you guys are getting invited to M+ with current T31 set now?

[clever path]

Yes

[violet condor]

well it would definetly help...

[burnt stone]

It's disappointing that T31 has high ST DPS, but what's fun is T30 Ons + AM, so I'm looking forward to it.

[tepid scroll]

Woo season 2 tier set won

[lament hamlet]

the real question is how will fyralath play with the s2 set

[weary sedge]

bro don't hit me with that cyberpunk reference out of left field T.T I just went to the Ofrenda again

[pliant ridge]

turn rallying cry into a versatility buff

[olive wraith]

A common argument is we don’t get invites cause our aoe is worse than last season. As if s2 we got invited post Aug

[jolly island]

I'm glad the m+ dooming is happening in both arms and fury channels

[upbeat sentinel]

Give us something unique we can actually use regardless of if a Shaman/BMhunter/Mage is in the group lmao

[wild mica]

What if I told you that unless you're going for +30 right now, AM/ravager with season 3 set is actually good enough to play right now

[strong pond]

Whoops, sorry Arc, didn't mean for that to be a reply.

[atomic yarrow]

we dont get invited due to the lack of utilities. never had anything to do with damage

[clever path]

What about transmog numbers ; did both continents agree on S2 ?

[clever path]

The on use will still suck

[edgy widget]

Yeah

[lapis swift]

Does this mean anger management is back?

[shell jackal]

my personal preference for the utility would be give rally a dmg reduction buff, like darkness. raid-wide, 20% dmg reduction or something. i think this makes us a bit more valuable, if we keep the added %hp on top of that.

[oblique trail]

Damn DH really has a big hand up on us when it comes to Utility, if only we had their Utility we'd be meta!!

[edgy widget]

Just scale rally in 5m content like augvoker

[weary sedge]

^

[lament hamlet]

give arms/fury lust and also that one shout pvp talent that buffs them

[olive wraith]

Probably worse cause the more you don’t press ramp the worse am is

[violet condor]

i agree but blizzard usually takes the extreme lazy route in things and if we were to get ONE thing the most helpful would be BL

[summer quail]

good enough ye, i would prefer playing the strongest build tho

[north edge]

They just need to make battlefield commander the pvp talent baseline

[restive peak]

Realistically we either need some new utility, or brez, and rally needs a buff regardless of either of the 2 other 1s happening

[wild mica]

im just waiting for warrior 4th spec- gladiator support spec

[strong pond]

I'm not gonna lie, I think S2 wins the appearance game by a country mile. Definitely would've preferred to use 3 or 1 over 2 again though.

[upbeat sentinel]

Gladiator was and always will be a meme

[bold raven]

sorry for voting s2 fury but i need that build to brainlessly play while high 🙂

[clever path]

How to give warrior utility without making him a paladin ?

[shell jackal]

how do you mean scale it?

[edgy widget]

Lust wouldn’t make war meta - wouldn’t do much at all tbh. Prob help prot more than dps

[inland flame]

As someone who played Glad on exactly 3 Heart of Fear fights, I'm offended.

[clever path]

Warrior should get an ankh that lasts 20 seconds we get 100% haste and 20% damage buff then die and cant get brez or alive until end of encounter

[edgy widget]

Probably the most real take so far

[tribal seal]

banner spec would be cool

[pliant ridge]

Turn rallying cry into something like 10% vers for 10 or 20 seconds

[weary sedge]

I still hope the next support spec is for warriors, called 'Commander' or 'Warlord' and its sword and board

[upbeat sentinel]

I did too tbf

[restive peak]

Brez wouldn't make us a paladin. I do 2nd the high playing S2 being better thing, I'm pretty high by the end of prog nights sometimes if I fuckup my weed timing and it can get wild...never felt that way last tier.

[frosty scroll]

i voted season 2 cuz i loved the playstyle, thats wot yall said to go for rather than damage numbers

[summer quail]

just increase the effect in m+ like aug. ebon might has twice the value in m+. rally needs that as well

[olive wraith]

There’s some talents in other specs that have “300% increase while not in raid”

[tidal kindle]

At this point I'll settle for making execute and 2t arms/5t fury great again

https://tenor.com/view/beluga-whale-finding-dory-whale-call-gif-7466468

[next canopy]

When we go mountain king we can get brez to go with that https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wowpedia/images/4/40/Reforged_credits_art_18.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20200518201305

[restive peak]

[shell jackal]

ahhh right okay i see, yeah fair. man, this situation is shitty. haha

[next canopy]

Takes a little Electricity to Brez babay

[summer quail]

i honestly think alot of people would vote s31 if the 2p could cleave(me included) and yes i know odyns fury is strong

[clever path]

I have no idea why every other class discord is not blowing up like this lol let’s

[strong pond]

Cause we're FURY-ious obviously.

[frosty scroll]

cuz every other class discord prob agreed on 1 set to vote on

[upbeat sentinel]

keep yourself safe

[shell jackal]

a few are. i know ww is annoyed over the s1 set, iirc, from my ww friend - but MW / BRM seem happy. i know rogues chilled and picked the set to vote on. and i know fire mages got S2 set, which so far has been the best one for them.

[burnt stone]

What will happen to the legendary weapons?
I think people who haven't gotten it yet will worry about whether to craft it or not, even if they get it late, depending on what they do with S4's legendary weapons.

[clever path]

Im just shocked at the amount of support s2 had. I dont get why am was so fun. It had zero interaction.

[young swan]

yeah ww s1 seems insanely troll

[inland flame]

Only a few specs had like 70+ in one season, people be out there liking different things

[edgy widget]

Probably an upgrade like SL

[opal monolith]

In before blizzard actually buffs the set and it is competitive, and we get equal s3 dmg and more enjoyable playstyle ? u never know, #positivity

[summer quail]

having cds up alot is fun. simple as that

[weary sedge]

cause most discords have a unanimous favorite playstyle (Other than Arc mage but I don't even think it was that big of a fight for them?) Whereas we have two completely different styles of Anger Management and Relentless Abandon

[violet condor]

well yea nothing short of a full rework would make us meta but id think a lust would be very nice considering how many times ive seen "need lust" on lfr group?

[oblique trail]

But the WW guy on max's stream said s1 and not s3!

[young swan]

but maybe not because it doesnt proc off of auto attacks LOL

[terse idol]

I could brainlessly macro all my cds together and not have to think after a long day at work in s2

[clever escarp]

also anihilator is not fun

[olive wraith]

I was hoping for s3 cause we played am for most of DF already. Without even going into s4

[dapper goblet]

you've timed me out twice today for no reason

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah if you think we're gonna be that lucky, go ahead and buy a lotto ticket as well

[edgy widget]

Yeah it comes up, honestly people overemphasize natural lust - drums are fine. A brez is more important

[tidal kindle]

Current fury playstyle has grown on me but nothing has felt impactful to press

[edgy widget]

You keep spamming the same pointless stuff every 5 minutes - stop it

[rose bay]

yo instead of teier can we ge tone of them fancy reworks?

[clever path]

But they arent even meaningful cds. If am affected avatar like it did in legion id be on board

[restive peak]

We will literally never use the leggo with S2 man

[violet condor]

i have thought about a brez to 2 but i am curious how that would fit the class fantasy unless i dont know something? just wondering where it would be from or how it would work

[opal monolith]

Fixing Warrior my propositions :
Make Whirlwind cleave from 4 to 8 targets
Make rallying cry prevent people from dying (stay at 1 hp) for the full duration

[frosty scroll]

wdym ravager with the 30% str talent

[clever path]

@clever path where are you my guy

[oblique trail]

Probably a big reason why I'm not exactly enjoying raiding as much rn. Fury rn is playable, but it's neither fun nor boring, it's just playable

[dapper goblet]

first timeout was someone asking why i dont like the playstyle of season 3 and that got me a 7 day timeout.

[upbeat sentinel]

Maybe in the third of the coming three expacs we'll get a rework, but doubt even then

[young swan]

pinging a known troll is bold

[brittle crow]

bruh where did all these eu votes come in to ruin everything

[snow edge]

Plz no ping that man

[wanton mirage]

They just need to make EnginBrez instant

[clever path]

For what 5 seconds? Lol

[clever escarp]

*save everything

[edgy widget]

Na dude, you’ve spammed the same shit over and over and I’ve repeatedly asked you not to. I’m not arguing this any further

[frosty scroll]

ye but we got ravager very often, uptime is crazy good

[ornate tundra]

@foggy thicket

[bold raven]

Im a purple on the monk discord and it's because sck is better now, so we dont want RSK taking chi in aoe. S3 is horrible except for aoe ser. It makes us resource capped and gcd capped which is contradictory for how energy specs are supposed to work. Additionally s1 promotes the buttons we want to press and windwalker base gameplay is extremely fun

[summer quail]

ye same here for raid, still prefer AM/RAV in m+. ye i know you can play it with s31 but it's not optimal and i don't like playing something i know is worse. would be very happy if we could just have all the tiersets but it is what it is

[dapper goblet]

you've not once asked me

[young swan]

is purp just yellow but for monks

[clever belfry]

except if its cleave TOD

[young swan]

also yeah seems good

[clever path]

We get OF more often. Hits hard and is instant damage, no ramping.

[young swan]

prob migrating to monk for s4 anyways so good to know @bold raven

[bold raven]

yep, feel free to reach out anytime there

[upbeat sentinel]

Give me your yellow

[young swan]

no

[young swan]

🫡

[warped bone]

I'd love a warrior Bress. Shout at them to get up

[frosty scroll]

ye but people dont like waiting 1 minute 30 for actual cds rather than of by itself, plus double rage gen with reck uptime

[clever path]

I think i may go full paladin not gonna lie. Today was good on Ret, I was able to smack more AoE with 470 ilvl then my 485 main warrior outside burst

[clever belfry]

piss color obtained

also slowmode cringus

[wanton mirage]

I can get behind you

[tepid scroll]

fury was much better last tier in m+

[clever path]

As i said. Reck and rav arent actual cds

[upbeat sentinel]

me realizing my 470 fury war does more ST than my 483 DK

[violet condor]

a brez would be really cool but whenever people bring it up in my opinion just sounds dumb? yell at the dudes corpse and they get up that makes no sense

[snow edge]

Xan not slowed, it's an unfair playing field

[bold raven]

technically all abilites that have a cd are cds

[oblique trail]

Xan abusing pee privileges

[young swan]

im not even typing once every 30s!

[warped bone]

Ye it's really dumb to give us one. But it would indeed be hilarious

[frosty scroll]

so avatar is our 1 cd in ur opinion? reck and rav do just as much for us

[upbeat sentinel]

Xan is about to lose his peeing privileges

[young swan]

oh its 1min

gg

get owned non cool colour havers

[wanton mirage]

You think when we stomp, lightning comes down makes sense?

[bold raven]

audit the yellow name >:)

[clever path]

Then why did rav hit like a wet towel on st

[clever belfry]

i have other cool role okay... i should be exempt frfr

[olive wraith]

Rav gave 30% str

[eternal rampart]

We'll be playing DF dungeons though which has a lot of priority/st requirements (which we'll be losing a lot of) and will compete with much stronger aoe specs (like havoc) destroying adds/smallies, it's not that simple imo.

[oblique trail]

Yeah @young swan give your colour when you disappear into the aether (monk)

[warped bone]

We wearing wolly clothes and shuffling our feet to build up a static charge duh!

[clever path]

I see what you mean. But ST on Ret isn’t that terrible either , I was able to pump 160k with cds and 130k without - shit felt good

[violet condor]

isnt the lightning just a cosemtic glyph?

[frosty scroll]

cuz if u tuned it any better, it'd be giga broken in aoe

[upbeat sentinel]

omfl and you did the British spelling YUCK

[young swan]

i just wont be disappearing

[young swan]

its french spelling and im canadian

so

yes

[wanton mirage]

There gonna be real mountain thane with lightening next expansion

[restive peak]

1 thing I will never do is cheat on warrior, you haters

[bold raven]

armour and colour just make you have to type more letters, js

[clever path]

Talking to a wall

[clever belfry]

Bro half the people with yellow don't play warrior as main xd

@young swan cringe

[young swan]

im actually pretty sure most of them do now

[opal monolith]

no its not its couleur

[clever path]

Hey brother man, I love warrior , but some wise man once told me gotta be that multiclassing guru

[summer quail]

real, and i've seen that critcake guy not play warrior twice

[young swan]

shut up!!!! im right!!!

[upbeat sentinel]

imagine being french canadian

[young swan]

im not french canadian

[bold raven]

@jaunty ridge is rank 1 NA m+ arms

So yellows are def maining 🙂

[young swan]

those creatures are icky

@spice vine @wintry tulip isnt that right

[opal monolith]

je t'aime

[warped bone]

I just love the meming about Critcake getting firemage nerfed back when he played it a bit 😄

[spice vine]

being french canadian is cringe

[upbeat sentinel]

we will be the firemage next tier with all the fire dmg crap

[clever belfry]

anything fr*nch is

[wintry tulip]

tabarnak why ping

[oblique trail]

Lorgok quote moment

[violet condor]

yea imagine if they add a thor like ability where we charge up lightning and shock a dead teammate to revive there heart like u do with brez wrists that would be cool and make more sense than shouting at a corpse

[young swan]

#fury message

[edgy widget]

Blues maybe, but yellows do.

Then again, several loudmouths in this channel don’t play war either, but they keep coming back to chat 🤷‍♂️

[rose fog]

Would love a support spec for warriors where we focus on shouts and banners. Drill Sergent style.

[fluid cedar]

Overall I liked the feel of season 2 better, it flowed better than s3 imo but it got stale after a while

[upbeat sentinel]

Na I'm def feeling the shouting at a corpse more. "GET UP NOW! I DIDN'T SAY YOU COULD FUCKING DIE, MAGGOT!"

[clever belfry]

lorgok_based_fr.mp3 moment

[opal monolith]

Proof that i main warrior

[brittle crow]

i barely play wow at all rn and i come in here to chat 👍

[wanton mirage]

My Windfury guy will be real Jealous of us if it happens

[inland flame]

A real warrior main would have 25% leech and avoidance too

[summer quail]

ugh no, imagine the support spec being so strong that it's "troll" playing the other specs. don't like the thought of being forced to play a support spec

[wintry tulip]

your ex is a french canadian, you are infected for life sry brother

[young swan]

confused wheres ur legendary?

[young swan]

its true im terminal

[upbeat sentinel]

No tertiary stats??? Do you even clenchmax???

[clever belfry]

hey i timed a 26 on my warr this season (she is in the bin, where she belongs during s3)

[clever path]

Too bad 25% leech won’t synergize well now with BT spam because S2 tier set bonus riiiiight

[opal monolith]

I knew it , i thought i was gonna get away with it

[warm crag]

andaxd more score than me i should quit immediately

[oblique trail]

[vivid peak]

Sorta new to warrior, what is the reasoning that the playstyle this tier isn’t as good as last? I switched this season so didn’t see how it faired

[clever belfry]

Aiawia also 3100 now KING character

[ashen socket]

It's just preference thats all, Both are good for different reasons people dont like s3 playstyle wise but its preformance it alot better where as s2 people prefer its playstyle but its preformance is a bit worse than s3

[upbeat sentinel]

@edgy widget gimme a good Fury weakaura so my screen can look cool

[opal monolith]

[warm crag]

more king than me

[compact tundra]

Next vote should be whether or not to keep this channel in slow mode permanently

[upbeat sentinel]

It's for the best that we do

[vivid peak]

So just good for M+, gotcha

[edgy widget]

Idk it’s been pretty nice so far

What do you think? Take a minute and think about it

[violet condor]

that made me laugh

[compact tundra]

Maybe I didn’t convey it correctly but my vote would be for this to be slow mode forever

[upbeat sentinel]

let me skull react this

[summer quail]

are you gonna vote for it on multiple characters?

[opal monolith]

[edgy widget]

I don’t think I can actually change the setting on mobile

And my couch is really comfy

[oblique trail]

S1/2 playstyle was less powerful CD windows but up more frequently with less ST compared to S3 and no weaving needed.
S3 CD windows are stronger, with more ST/Prio damage, but some people don't like the Annihilator playstyle/less Recklessness uptime.
Both have their valid points for why one would prefer the other

[upbeat sentinel]

i demand a good weakaura as a consolation prize then

[compact tundra]

Then the next vote could be to remove stupid reactions.

[silk wharf]

I like s3 the msot out of the stuff this expansion. S2 is def stronger but my boomer hands cant take that beating for more than a couple hours before I need a break.

[violet condor]

i see people keep saying this tier sets really good in single target but like correct me if im wrong, were still one of if not the worst single target in the game still?

[vivid peak]

I really appreciate the insight thank you

[edgy widget]

Depending on the cd we’re talking about it’s also the opposite - S2 AoE CDs less frequent but stronger, S3 AoE cd slightly weaker but more frequent

[clever path]

Slow mode is nice , it’s like managing your social CDs

[meager void]

back to Kching!

[hybrid raft]

why is the channel in SL arms rage starved mode

[edgy widget]

This is the best ST fury has been all expac lol

[upbeat sentinel]

we already can't use reactions in this channel

[summer quail]

@cobalt chasm uka WA 😦

[edgy widget]

And it’s not the worst, it’s fairly average

[violet condor]

oh yea its def the best all expac but compared to other classes i was under the impression we still werent great

[edgy widget]

But part of that is tier, part of it is general tuning - it’s fair criticism to say that the ST bonus doesn’t make Fury amazing at ST, but consider that the alternative is being even worse

[meager void]

And yeah, its a sad kching on ST

[young swan]

rip yakuza..

[silk wharf]

I would like to see s3 be the choice and for them to enable it working on the whirlwind cleave. but s2 won

[edgy widget]

S3 is not amazing, but it is kinda good everywhere

S2 is good (arguably better) in M+ or very specific AoE raid fights, but pretty poop everywhere else

[lean bluff]

just prayge for Blizzard to do balance and I'm real happy. Love AM playstyle

[clever path]

Is Ravager capped AoE btw ?

[meager void]

but after tuning we'll be good everywhere!

[vivid peak]

Wow head should still have season 2 guide to see what the rotation looks like yeah?

[oblique trail]

It's soft capped

[edgy widget]

Still there on the rotation page yeah

Talent builds can be found on the calculator

[edgy widget]

Soft capped at 8

[clever path]

I may sound very galaxy brain. But what is soft cap and co?

[lean bluff]

square root diminishing returns

[hybrid raft]

deals less damage beyond the cap

[edgy widget]

Soft capped means it deals full damage up to that point, then it starts splitting damage (quadradically scaling)

[lapis lion]

I don't think that these people understand there's no world where fury ST is good with s2. All of the components that make s2 good in AoE would be absolutely BUSTED if ST was tuned to be a competitive level

[clever path]

Thanks guys, big TIL

[edgy widget]

As opposed to hard capped, which only ever hits up to X targets (fury’s cleave is hard capped at 5)

[meager void]

its simple, they just need to tune down AoE knob and tune up ST knob.

[vivid peak]

In my thought process: fury for AoE M+ and Arms for ST or cleave. I’m assuming this without any tuning changes or even if it matters anymore

[wanton mirage]

I means they did make DH absolute busted in AoE this season.
If they want they will.
But they never cared for war 9 out of 10 time.

[sinful spoke]

no orange stick = no main

[lapis lion]

And then s2 will be worse in AoE than s3 is now. The point is, S3 is kinda decent everywhere, S2 will only ever be decent in one place. The only hope is that blizzard filters out the non legitimate votes and we get s3 after all.

[meager void]

Yes I was serious.

[lapis lion]

Sarcasm is an art, and yours did not tip past the line that reads like a legitimate message in this channel lately

[ashen socket]

I doubt that will happen

[edgy widget]

I doubt they will do anything either, no

[covert coyote]

o/ FeelsWarriorMan

[ashen socket]

Don't forget about grimrail and Irondocks, Nothing was done when that was trolled

[acoustic coyote]

eww S2 fury, guess no warrior for me in S4

[edgy widget]

I don’t even particularly care if they do though, I’m not losing my mind over fated season

[clever path]

Are these S1 dungeons that Blizzard asked people to vote for?

[lapis lion]

I just wish everyone would settle down and wait for Blizzard to actually post anything. There's no indication s2 is what we're getting. Even wowhead has the disclaimer at the top.

[vivid peak]

Exactly my feelings, just a dedicated season for reclears lol

[ashen socket]

They were in the fated season for slands

P sure the slime cat was also trolled

[hybrid raft]

im only excited for the new recolors if they do that tho

[ashen socket]

Who said they are gonna do recolors?

Get that thought out of your head its a fated season it aint gonna happen

[clever path]

Gotta agree tho - we are going S tier with Slayer for sure

[edgy widget]

They’re doing something with the tmog, we dunno what but recolor is the obvious

[thorn venture]

I can't believe my vote for the season 1 set didn't win

[ashen socket]

Well I hope I eat my words then cause I already have all the colors I want for that set, Recolors would be a breath of fresh air

[hybrid raft]

yeah there is no reason to pick the tier tmog if it wasnt for something like that

[hollow elk]

blizzard is aware people have been trolling. just hoping the wash the vote off and just pick for us cuz players are clearly too dumb or looking for luls to actually pick anything

[noble elm]

Blizz is already foregoing actually making a s4, do you really think they care about what we get

[dapper goblet]

we tried our best

[rotund steppe]

welp

[clever path]

Then if judging by this logic, the vote was pointless in the end and like 200 pages of this discord chat can be deleted lawl

[warm crag]

i have personally thwarted this plan

[rotund steppe]

im not playing warrior next season see yall in war within lmao

[noble elm]

Yes, precisely - lol

[signal locust]

Can you get the legendary quest start in vault?

[lapis lion]

I do think they care, because player sentiment is of utmost importance right now. Sure, fated season carries a lot less weight but they're not just gonna piss on it

[nova zenith]

no just fyrakk

[noble elm]

Agree to disagree. I think they could give two shits about if we care as long as we keep paying

[slim coral]

[noble elm]

If they cared we’d be getting a fourth season

[lapis lion]

And what keeps people paying?

[cosmic lance]

Addiction mostly

[rotund steppe]

copium

[lapis lion]

Granted, no matter what bonus warrior gets, I'll continue paying, just on a different class if S2 wins, and warrior if S3 wins.

[clever path]

Someone once said Dragonflight is WoD 2.0 in terms of content. Not my words , but I do believe that we might have had at some point S4

[noble elm]

If season 1 won - do you think it would have any real impact on the number of people playing warrior?

[lean bluff]

wait why wouldnt s2 win if it got more votes? not trolling

[weary sedge]

Stockholm syndrome

[lapis lion]

100% it would, yes.

[edgy widget]

Real

[ashen socket]

You know what would be funny is if running s3 at low ilvl on st fights was better than running the s2 set at higher ilvl

[lapis lion]

Blizzard hasn't posted anything yet - there's a high chance there were illegitimate EU votes. And of course, the fact that for tons of classes/specs people were troll voting for the worst results.

[nova zenith]

that would be cringe

[edgy widget]

P much, end of the day people make noise no matter what

[noble elm]

Doubt - this is just a way for blizzard to make a choice and shift the perspective of blame for that choice back to the player base. It’s really a great PR choice. People are gonna play regardless of the set bonus and that’s really all we have to worry about

[oblique trail]

The ST of S3 is better but it's not gonna beat 30~ ilvls worth of mainstat/secondary stats

[hollow elk]

ill take it

[clever path]

Basically it is unknown if votes were REALLY manipulated, but there is strong sentiment that people just either jumped on a bandwagon to troll specific class / spec and vote for the worst possible option, or just did it in spite to win and decided to mass vote for X set bonus. Numbers looking weird is all

[lapis lion]

Purely anecdotal, but S2 made me quit warrior for a season. Two people in my guild are the same. 3 people aren't a measurable impact but the enjoyability of a spec does impact player count.

[sullen dove]

servers up at 6 pm holy fucking cringe, so much for grinding possible legendary before raid

[hollow elk]

it was totally known lol

[lean bluff]

balance was horrible in s2 in general.

[ashen socket]

We will see we are hitting drs now so higher ilvl becomes worse and worse.. Super slowly yeah but can't rule it out

current tierset is what 9-11% better than last? 30 ilvl gain is generally what in st?

[sullen dove]

probably... a lot more.. than that

[oblique trail]

A lot more than 10%

[clever path]

Okay it may be so, but no concrete statement , evidence and other bollocks. Till official post confirms it (if ever) it’s just a speculation EVEN IF it’s visible that they have been. Don’t get me wrong, I do see it , I am not blind and not denying it. I’d wait for blue post and see what big B has to say

[lapis lion]

something close to 29 or 30% of fury's total vote count came overnight. it's definitely known. it's just a matter of whether they do anything about it.

[sullen dove]

s2 bis profile was like 140 something k no, now its like almost 250k, theres a leggo included in there but thats after 40 more ilvls

[lapis lion]

Either way, people are gonna be in their feelings bad when Blizzard makes an official post.

[ashen socket]

still gonna gain 26 ilvls just using other pieces so you can probably run s3 set and be say 526 compared to 530

[clever path]

This pretty much

[lean bluff]

the 2 big EU warrior streamers were hard pulling for S2 the last few days

[summer quail]

archi said it was 8-9% last time he checked

[dapper goblet]

didnt know you had so much influence

[tardy lark]

it is known

[lapis lion]

And that lead thousands of people to vote for s2 exclusively in EU and nowhere else?

[ashen socket]

Yeah thats what I was basing it off of just went for a guess on what he said earlier.

[next canopy]

Many humans operate “last minute” you’ll see that if you go to school or even in the workplace.

[young swan]

should i read red rising or get my monk boosted

[warm crag]

both

[ashen socket]

Read

[young swan]

holy fcuk

[clever path]

Read and buy my afk leveling boost

[noble elm]

Timewalk level no boost needed

[young swan]

i will not be doing that myself

[edgy widget]

It’s 100% the vote was compromised by alts, that fact is not in dispute

Whether anyone chooses to believe the massive influx of votes on Fri night was artificial… w/e I’m not gonna try to convince them except to point out the facts of the matter

Whether Blizz cares? Probably not, these votes are really just community engagement farms

[dense elbow]

You don't need 1000 ppl, only 100 ppl with 10 chars. Or 50 with 20.

[next canopy]

I pushed s2 to victory.

[ashen socket]

Wait who is the 2nd?

[hollow elk]

blizzard leaving shit to the public like they havent seen other stuff being left to the public before.

[snow edge]

I don’t think anyone is disputing people voting on multiple characters; but how many votes would be removed from S2 and S3 isn’t known

[summer quail]

prob bizentein

[ashen socket]

Nah not my bizzy boy

[clever path]

Yeah I agree . I just want to see if Blizzard will actually determine that as vote manipulation and actually filter the votes on specific dates / times akin to rolling back. Or just something. I personally in the same boat as you are - I voted for season 2 and along with @dapper goblet just memed to vote S1 or S2. In reality - it barely even matters. We all still gonna be playing same class, with same (your) builds lawl

[covert coyote]

Red Rising if you haven't read it yet, 10/10 series

[lapis lion]

it's much less about that fact, even, and more so about the clear vote manipulation over the weekend.

[lofty scroll]

why dont they create an npc and you choose your tier so all the arguments can stop hahah

[dense elbow]

It would be around 40 votes from S1 from me alone

[lapis lion]

there's no way to balance 3 tier sets at once for every spec.

[young swan]

i havent but ive heard so many good things about it and the percy jackson d+ series coming out reinvigorated my desire to read

[dapper goblet]

the world would be a utopia if season 1 won

[snow edge]

That’s one and the same thing; what other manipulation is there??

[summer quail]

who cares, it's fated. throw balance out the window and let us have fun

[keen forum]

think of how bad they have been at making any warrior spec good since end of legion and imagine what if the challenge was actually 3 times as hard

[lofty scroll]

well ask yourself this...did blizzrd actually balance all classes?

[stuck bison]

in the future expansions we ll get a better version of that tier set for sure. it was fun

[lapis lion]

I wouldn't call voting with alts manipulation, it's accessible to everyone and most people did it. I'd bet voting with alts didn't move the vote in any significant direction. The suspicious EU vote influx over the weekend went exclusively to one place and one place only.

[hollow elk]

anyone that takes blizzard promises at face value in fucking season 4 of all seasons is delucional lol

[warm crag]

do you actually have the stats on that or are you just guessing regarding alt voting

[edgy widget]

it's absolutely manipulation lol; telling everyone to vote and then saying "oh but people who know THIS trick get to vote a potentially infinite number of times" is absolutely manipulation

[next canopy]

It really is the season of discovery 💡

[lofty scroll]

who did you vote for sir

[covert coyote]

anything over 1 vote per account, which it should have been from the jump, is just silly. the fact people took the time to do it is sus to their character as people

[lapis lion]

Anyway, I'll continue enjoying the hell out of this season and wait for a blue post. If they give us S3 again, I'll happily be back in s4. if we get s2, I'll drop warrior for the 2nd time in 19 years. The first being S2 the first time. Then I'll check out warrior again in TWW. Nbd. But I'm not fretting until Blizzard posts anything

[young swan]

i agree but i think u responded to the wrong thing

[covert coyote]

yeah that was unintentional

[keen forum]

i don't even understand how anyone thinks the gameplay of S3 is fun

[clever path]

We all did it for the memes in the end

[edgy widget]

I didn't vote for Percy Jackson...

[keen forum]

i have played warrior since mop and it's probably the most smooth brain fury has ever felt

[summer quail]

surprised you didn't drop warrior in 10.05 then, same build as s2

[lofty scroll]

but i got the leggo lol

[warm crag]

they almost all play identically man theyre not reinventing the wheel every single season

[next canopy]

Surprised he hasn’t eaten a time out yet. Keeps saying the same stuff over and over

[edgy widget]

congratulations

next week on Skyhold: understanding different perspectives!

[young swan]

because my cd's matter and it requires thought beyond "hit button when light up". also not a fan of uptime slaving and having my parse be dictated by whether or not i highrolled reck uptime in raid

[lofty scroll]

i hear that blizzard will kinda tune s2's tier

[hollow elk]

^ saying " i dont get why people thinks s3 is boring " pretty much tells me you havent really played the class at all cuz our rotation is literally still the same besides 1 new skill and 1 less spam

[lapis lion]

I'm having discussions with different people and I'm not being rude or toxic. Why would I get a timeout lol

[keen forum]

yes bc im clearly the only one in here struggling with that

[wild mica]

one less button available therefore boring

[edgy widget]

the fact that you're struggling with the concept is kind of telling lol

[vivid peak]

If im not mistaken, it still deals with bloodthirst dot right?

[lofty scroll]

well if you got the leggo thats one extra button haha

[keen forum]

read more into choice of words plz

[young swan]

its one extra button u wont be pressing in s4

[edgy widget]

tbf if you macro Reck + Rav, which virtually everyone did; it's the same number of buttons

[lofty scroll]

??????????

[young swan]

press lego with am = dps go down

[oblique trail]

Love when AM makes spending rage constantly mandatory so the small loss of not pressing the button even less
Maybe even a gain in S4 🐀

[lofty scroll]

ah good point

[open prairie]

requires you to loot the legendary first

[edgy widget]

idk if you'll never press lego, but the opportunity cost will go up

[wild mica]

pressing legendary as fury just feels bad right now, cant imagine with AM

[young swan]

i feel like the opportunity cost is already pretty high

[pliant ridge]

lego cast is bad, just like the grieftorch was in s1

[edgy widget]

hey at least you can channel Puzzlebox during it 😆

[sullen dove]

i love when am requires reck uptime to be twice as effective and if you drop reck for any reason your feedback loop ends as you hit rampage less often which means less chances for unbridled to proc which means it will take even longer for reck and ravager to come back off cooldown pushing your cooldowns back further and further, yes this was a very good and fun playstyle in raid guys

[lofty scroll]

me personally, i dont mind pressing the lego if we picked s3

[young swan]

to be clear

[edgy widget]

I voted S3, because I think it's more fun, but that's quite subjective

[young swan]

i only really take issue with am/rav in raid

in m+ its pretty cool

[open prairie]

s2 is outlaw rogue simulator

[young swan]

and neat even

[lofty scroll]

agreed!!!!!!!!!!!

[oblique trail]

Wednesday is when it happens

[sullen dove]

yea i mean both builds are chill in m+, one is just complete horseshit in raid

[restive peak]

Bros

[open prairie]

if you think about it

[lofty scroll]

we got a lot of buttons to press in m+

[sullen dove]

and raid is 90% of my content in this game

[restive peak]

Missed 28 EB by 4.6 seconds....

[warm crag]

am must perish

[lofty scroll]

mine is m+

[young swan]

ALSO

[wild mica]

have you tried doing more damage

[oblique trail]

am warrior must perish

[young swan]

this issue never happens if am was in the class tree

[ashen socket]

Shouldn't have died

[young swan]

think about it...

[keen forum]

found the blizzard warrior dev

[sudden tusk]

if only there was a video

[open prairie]

wheres the button you reroll to a better class

[sudden tusk]

talking about such a change

[open prairie]

[restive peak]

We had 2 deaths all key, our priest, leggo diff man D: WHY DO I NOT HAVE LEGGO

[young swan]

if only...

[warm crag]

idk going from a dogshit cdr spec to assa was heaven

[young swan]

[ashen socket]

Sadge

[lofty scroll]

its love for the fury warrior

[sullen dove]

if only you had a mage to do more prio damage...

[restive peak]

I RUN MAGE DH FURY

[sullen dove]

skill issue then idk

[oblique trail]

sometimes you gotta put that which you love out of its misery

[sullen dove]

[open prairie]

imagine having to talent out of dps to pick up stuns that other classes have baseline….

[ashen socket]

Should have had aug

[dapper goblet]

cope

[restive peak]

Augs are for failures

[young swan]

if only there was a magical stick which sole purpose was to funnel into big fatties in packs....

[primal plover]

hopw the fuck did we end up w/ season 2 -_- fuck sake

[sullen dove]

[ashen socket]

Agreed

[restive peak]

YOU KNOW WHAT BRO GIMME YOURS, WW cheater D:

[young swan]

u can take it man

[restive peak]

I want bruh

How's fyrakky for you guys

We bout to go kill it

[sullen dove]

mfw 8 hour maintenence b4 i can be disappointed for the week and no orange stick

[young swan]

hell yeah

think we;re working on end of p2

[restive peak]

Noice, we're workin on P3; we prayg

[young swan]

:prayge:

:inshallah:

[oblique trail]

🐸 🙏

[lofty scroll]

so why is the leggo gonna impact the play off of s2 tier set?

[oblique trail]

As we mentioned above

Anger Management wants you to constantly spend rRage

[lofty scroll]

haha im cooking

[young swan]

u dont like spending any gcd on something that isnt related to pressing rampage

[oblique trail]

Pressing Lego = you spend less time spending rage

[keen forum]

it doesn't even feel good to press now most of the time i can't imagine with AM

[young swan]

and the lego requires 3 gcd of no rage spending or building

[restive peak]

You will absolutely never press leggo w S2, it will be a definitive DPS loss unless they buff the everliving fuck out of it

[open prairie]

i honestly just tune out most things in raid

[young swan]

or they just remove all restrictions on it and let u cast and move during

then its kinda giga

[open prairie]

because its a whole lot of priests crying

[lofty scroll]

................. shit

[open prairie]

needing everything catered to them

[young swan]

s2 copers failed to take lego into account

now they will be punished

[lofty scroll]

yeah i see that

[unborn rover]

[oblique trail]

The lego in general just sucks ballsacks for Warrior

[primal plover]

im trying to scroll up to see the dicussion on leggo with s2 set can someone give a TLDR?

[open prairie]

they had to balance it out yk

[bold raven]

You see, just play arms in raid

[wild mica]

back to aug so that i can spend entire raid reading an ERT note

[sullen dove]

its like 10 lines up

[cedar edge]

I'm mass reporting all S2 voters

[open prairie]

only str melee off the bench

[slim coral]

I cant be'lieve people voted for season 3 mog

[dapper goblet]

dont even have it

mald

plus L

[young swan]

which is funny because we're the best applicators for aoe combat

[dapper goblet]

gajeel owns u

[primal plover]

found it thanks

[wary grove]

imagine blizzard move Shockwave to a more resonable place and put AM in it's place

[oblique trail]

yeah I should've stuck to my rogue choice going into S3

big mistake

[warped bone]

I mean it punish you as S3 also. If you aint pressing that BT you aint lowering OF

[clever path]

Its usually 5-7% of my damage

[primal plover]

can someone pin a leggo s2 change thing so people can check pins?

[lofty scroll]

its weaker in both st and aoe and it cost rage for the people who have the leggo

[young swan]

omg imagien they remove the random 5% damage node (????) and put long arms and am as a follow-on!!!!

imagiagenn!!

[clever path]

Nothing out yet lol

[oblique trail]

Sure but consider the time you spend channeling your weapon where you could be lowering your OF CD

[fickle bluff]

idk man sounds kinda far fetched

[dense elbow]

Will be easier to apply legendary AoE stacks, with spamable WW

[oblique trail]

Or in S4 now where you could lower the CD of Reck/Ravager

[young swan]

grego master cooker

[wary grove]

Maybe now Bobbys gone it can happen

[clever path]

so for example if we had s3 win for fury how is obataining the new s4 handled . can we still keep our 4set bonus and just swap for ilvl. or like is it a whole new set? and for classes that dont have the current tier win how does that work?

[young swan]

literally gordon ramsay

[molten relic]

Huh

[clever path]

4 bts in a fight

Good dot

[molten relic]

We legit have 0 issue applying it already tho

[oblique trail]

Forgot to mention all the other damage you already do in those 3 seconds 🐀

[young swan]

john blizzard please make our class tree make sense and not be a stupid mess of random damage amps for abilities no one cares about

[clever path]

Its going to be a vendor with supposedly the s2 bonus at a higher ilvl

[molten relic]

It’s gonna feel worse with AM tho

[oblique trail]

The use is just doggie

[oblique trail]

I know

I don't have it

And I only look forward to the passive damage of it

Which is very sad to say

[edgy widget]

Imagine how many people would bitch about losing 5% dam 😂

[molten relic]

At least now there are times where it doesn’t feel bad

To use

[quick umbra]

new to Fury war (alt) - crafting my 2 items - Double Shadow (cloak/wrist) or Allied+Shadow cloak? Im leaning Allied wrist/Cloak

[outer cedar]

I like s3 set bonus but s2 is good? so sad..

[edgy widget]

Tbh I kinda feel like they need to nix all the long arm talents entirely, feels like a lose lose “arms race”

[young swan]

to be fair, that 5% could be easily compensated for by just putting more power in the trees

[oblique trail]

Allied + Shadowflame Cloak is the best all-rounder

[wary grove]

@young swan You don't like +60% damage to slam? 🤣

[clever path]

Allied and shadow if you do a mixed bag of content

[quick umbra]

ty ty

[keen forum]

buff warrior by 5%, remove the talent lol

[lofty scroll]

agreed

[edgy widget]

It definitely could, but would people see it that way? Idk

[young swan]

but ofc warrior players will bitch about it regardless

[oblique trail]

Wdym

[nova garnet]

I need this as a transmog for my warrior

[lofty scroll]

haha

[oblique trail]

I think Warrior players are very normal individuals

[dire badge]

Real

[edgy widget]

My issue with long arms is I feel like the more people get it, the more likely they are to just start making boss hitboxes smaller

[nova garnet]

You spelled weebs wrong

[modest condor]

they just need to remove it from every melee spec again

[outer cedar]

I hope s3 win... but I'm in korea and.. I can't vote hahaha 😦

[modest condor]

if you want long range play ranged

[young swan]

my issue with long arms is that too many specs have it to the point where it feels mandatory

[gilded pawn]

yeah someone complained about removing 10% MS damage

[oblique trail]

Weebs are not normally

[gilded pawn]

when arms tree got reworked

[clever path]

S2 won with bots

[edgy widget]

Yeah it’s an arms race, reminds me a lot of the cast while moving stuff in wod

[young swan]

yeah its super annoying

[sullen dove]

u mean with max's viewers

[keen forum]

prob that too

[dapper goblet]

what if season 3 also had bots..

[clever path]

Lol

[young swan]

either give us a way to damage stuff from outside 5yrds or remove everyone elses ability to do so/make it special

[pliant lantern]

No more Sylvannas size hitboxes please

[dapper goblet]

season 2 was just better botting

[sullen dove]

yea there werent as many on our side unfortunate

[summer quail]

Max definetely had the biggest impact

[sullen dove]

botters shouldve tried harder

[dapper goblet]

the bots are just smarter

🤖

[north edge]

Can they please replace shockwave with ancient aftershock

[sullen dove]

my god

would save the class

[edgy widget]

Then you have pal with 20 yard range on everything lol

[sullen dove]

[north edge]

The periodic knockdowns would be so useful for M+

[young swan]

yeah paladin is silly

[molten relic]

tbh all the bosses that suck have small hitboxes

[lofty scroll]

did he really?

[sullen dove]

aftershock is the most ability

[young swan]

NO REPLCAE IT WITH BLOODABTH

[edgy widget]

Don’t think max’s stream aired until after the vote change

[young swan]

BLOODBATH SUPREMACY

[clever path]

No

[lofty scroll]

oh ok bout to say hahah

[young swan]

im so tired of stinky bt -> bb pipeline

just give me the cool cd that does big fuck dam and double dips

[sullen dove]

xan hates bb confirmed????? season 2 voter all along? imposter

[lofty scroll]

i voted s3 but only looking at the past dmgs

[molten relic]

what if bb just wholly replaced bt

[young swan]

what if we just let bt be bt

and let bb be bb

[lofty scroll]

blizz will not really touch the buffs and nerfs

[molten relic]

let bbbbbb

[young swan]

stop

[molten relic]

that works for me

[young swan]

i see how it erads

just read it like my brain typed it

ty

[nova garnet]

Isn't the kit from 11 yards through 30 yards

Depending on the ability

[edgy widget]

What if we just…

[sullen dove]

[sinful spoke]

STOOOOOP

[nova garnet]

#arms

[young swan]

omg i could converse with myself and no one would be able to disagree

[molten relic]

pally has 6 extra yards on melee, plus 20 yards on their ST spender, and 30 on judgement or some shit

[nova garnet]

Will be out salvation

[sinful spoke]

I SAY WE REMOVE ARCHIS POWERS

[young swan]

this is a utopia

[sullen dove]

arms already is our salvation

[edgy widget]

Don’t you do that already? 😏

[young swan]

i do

[nova garnet]

So yeah like 11-30

[sullen dove]

fury unplayable with s2 so s1 arms back on the menu to pipe

[nova garnet]

It's insane

[sinful spoke]

real

[young swan]

but now i could do it in the public domain of skyhold

[sullen dove]

cant wait for cleave spam tbh gonna go hard

[keen forum]

i honestly didn't really care which season won tbh. S3 is decent power wise not giga. S1 was suuuuper boring and S2 seemed kinda annoying.

[molten relic]

worst case scenario for me I just go play arms if i dont like how s2 feels

at least there I can bladestorm with my lego channel

[sullen dove]

s1 arms was cool

[keen forum]

hard to be disappointed when none really excited you to begin with

[sullen dove]

[keen forum]

yeah im speaking fury i enjoyed s1 arms

[sinful spoke]

real

[summer quail]

[nova garnet]

Do we have the results

Also did china vote

[candid falcon]

s3 fury has been easier in m+ but apparently people botted EU votes for s2?

[sullen dove]

[sinful spoke]

how would china vote

[nova garnet]

[thorny lily]

guys, new to lwarrior, i need to pug every fyrak or just the highest?

[sinful spoke]

they dont got wow servers

💀

[nova garnet]

Tw

It's the same shit

[candid falcon]

just highest

[sullen dove]

highest is fine, but try to clear the raid on heroic too if you can for lesser's

[nova garnet]

You know full well Chinese players just play on TW

[thorny lily]

if i do heroic and dont drop i cant drop for lower ones?

[sinful spoke]

why wouldnt they vote

no grukha

[sullen dove]

nup

[regal aurora]

When do lessers start dropping btw?

[thorny lily]

:/

[sinful spoke]

heroic

[sullen dove]

heroic

[regal aurora]

like boss 1?

[keen forum]

random from any boss

[sinful spoke]

its all luck

[covert coyote]

I think voting is illegal in China

[sullen dove]

usually 1 a week but you can get more if lucky

[sinful spoke]

can drop from any boss

[regal aurora]

I see

[candid falcon]

i never got a single lesser fragment until I killed Fyrakk heroic (and then got one on my next heroic boss kill) but I don't know if that's just wild luck or a pattern

[regal aurora]

Yeah I'm in a very casual guild and I haven't seen one yet, but we haven't gotten past tindral yet.

[sullen dove]

i dont think fyrakk drops lessers, he might might cuz u loot it off the bosses

but fyrakk always drops a greater

[thorny lily]

strange, like, if i kill lfr first and didnt drop, then i do heroic i dont have a highest chance because i use one iten to improve chance?

[candid falcon]

yeah i got my greater off of heroic fyrakk, then went back and did volcoross and he instantly gave me my first lesser

[sullen dove]

your heroic will just have whatever % of the chance lfr is worth removed

[oblique trail]

All bosses on HC and Mythic drop lesser except for Fyrakk dropping greater. If you didn't get one before then you were just unlucky

[molten relic]

no

[lofty scroll]

did people tried getting in touch with blizz minus the ones on here?

[molten relic]

BLP affects following week

not current week

[sullen dove]

pretend lfr is 1%, normal is 2%, and heroic 3%, if you do lfr > heroic itll be a 1% then 5% chance, instead of just heroic first 6% chance, not real numbers just example :3

[molten relic]

so getting BLP before doing ur heroic kill doesnt do anything

[sinful spoke]

No

[lofty scroll]

i know theres nothing really we can do lol

[sinful spoke]

They count towards next week

[molten relic]

thats what I said

[sinful spoke]

Ok and

[molten relic]

not confirmed ofc but its the only way the bluepost makes sense

[edgy widget]

Yeah it's a theory - not confirmed, it'd just make more sense that way

Personally I just wouldn't obsess that hard over it, you're either gonna get it or you ain't

[cosmic lance]

They did state the intent was for you to be able to do highest difficulty and not need to farm every difficulty iirc

[molten relic]

Really isnt any way to minmax other than just kill highest difficulty boss you can every week

[unreal wasp]

I saw 6 drop in a H pug

[molten relic]

then you get it or you dont

We've only dropped one in our raid so far with 9 that can loot it

[keen forum]

we have 3 in our raid

2 dropped 2 weeks ago, 1 this week

[molten relic]

we got the most important one though(Mine)

[keen forum]

i was just happy the prot pally didn't get his first

[molten relic]

im the only non reroller that is 2h str

[unreal wasp]

Wait S4 is using S2 tierset 😳

[molten relic]

outside of our prot pally

[brittle crow]

so for a few days na had 3x the votes of eu then out of nowhere eu plows in to change the vote results... this is SUS

[silk wharf]

Shadows edge -> Shadowmourne was a great path. idk what their fondness for rng drops is...

[edgy widget]

trying to design something that works for organized raiders and casuals alike

[unreal wasp]

Idk what set is better tbh I do like this season though

[rigid stirrup]

Do it

[candid falcon]

blizzard will announce that because of the vote manip, fury's tier set will be season 1

and we will all lose

[lofty scroll]

yes but we dont gotta worry about for a few months

[edgy widget]

na they said they'd TUNE IT

[brittle crow]

id rather we all lose than a rigged vote win

[silk wharf]

Like a piano

[brittle crow]

im petty like that

[candid falcon]

wow! i can't wait to see "sudden death high proc chance" tuned to match the other tier sets 😄

[brittle crow]

nobody gonna tell me that eu found 3000 votes on the last day bruh 💀

[upbeat swan]

We got screwed by a rigged vote for s2 its cooked

^

[snow edge]

Wasn't 3000 votes on the last day

[candid falcon]

EU ballot stuffing smh

[warm pond]

At 10 stacks of Copium you get to hit Tuning Blow and get a small fix.

[keen forum]

+1% crit chance to execute

its tuned

[candid falcon]

hurray! fury is saved

[upbeat swan]

This makes me sad cause s3 fury is so much more fun.

[brittle crow]

yea everyone thinks so except the guy who rigged the vote

[snow edge]

Jesus, sure thing

[keen forum]

S1 4pc changed to: Sudden Death as an increased chance to proc, and consuming a sudden death proc changes your class to a rogue.

[brittle crow]

i do have a bit of a jesus complex

[lofty scroll]

hahahah

[snow edge]

I'm sure Blizz will investigate if they feel it warrants their time, otherwise too bad

Either way, doesn't matter now

[brittle crow]

oh im well aware nothing changing

[lofty scroll]

i wish but not gonna happen man

[brittle crow]

i just like to blame my issues on other ppl

[molten relic]

3% aura buff

"Tuning"

[warm crag]

ye thats what tuning is

[warm pond]

Wait did that actually happen?

[sullen dove]

fury 📉
arms 📈
season is still salvageable

[brittle crow]

NA was in the lead by far for the first few days xd

[oblique trail]

wtf!! I NEED at least 20% aura buff for my spec otherwise I am going to be benched for the rest of the tier FUCK

[brittle crow]

and both NA and EU voted mostly for s3

then out of nowhere EU spikes ahead to change it to s2

fair poll

[unborn rover]

I want to believe blizzard would take notice to that and maybe look in to it

But I have my doubts

[brittle crow]