fury

[pliant ridge]

I'm definitely not undergeared

[molten relic]

I don’t have empty global in raid anymore

And certainly not on the pure ST bosses

[oblique trail]

Maybe, I used it 11 times in my best Smolderon parse on Mythic, some of which were when I was walking out from melee during rings

[molten relic]

And I don’t have wft

[oblique trail]

It really is not that big of a deal

[dense elbow]

you should have an empty global once every 2min or so, no?

[restive peak]

Then you are messing up the rotation @pliant ridge

[ember apex]

link?

[molten relic]

If u have bad reck rng

Otherwise no

[oblique trail]

Real, hate S2 tier

[molten relic]

But also leggo on use

[dense elbow]

Hms hms, you are always lucky

[olive wraith]

Not enough bt presses probably

[molten relic]

Mitigates if I ever have that

[cosmic lance]

Archi linked the sim breakdown the other day, if you're following the APL properly the downtime is effectively zero

[molten relic]

But I Bt before ramp if I have barely enough rage for rampage

[restive peak]

If you're having rage issues you are not pressing BT EOGCD like you should, and/or have awful gear.

[deep sapphire]

People complaining about constantly having dead GCDs make me question if we’re playing the same class and spec.

[molten relic]

It happens sometimes in m+

[restive peak]

And you won't win this argument with me because A. you're wrong for even having it B. I play all the content at high levels way more than I should and experience that it doesn't happen daily lol

[molten relic]

On wonky pulls

[cosmic lance]

It happens more frequently in AoE because you're forced to use WW when you need the stacks

[molten relic]

But in raid it’s not likely at full gear

[dense elbow]

Well, I see rotations like this: Ramp, BB, slam, ww, BT, exe, ramp

[cosmic lance]

But in ST it's almost never

[hard widget]

In raid i never run out

Tbh

[restive peak]

BT EOGCD saves you

[stuck bison]

it sometimes happen in m+ boss fights. i just send shockwave

[ember apex]

lol shockwave boss

[restive peak]

I have very temporarily passed you bae >: )

[dense elbow]

15 rage and some dam

[meager void]

BT EOGCD

[olive wraith]

?? It shouldn’t happen in st lol

That’s wild

[hard widget]

Man my schedule is too ruined, i play at 5 am and stuff no keys xd

[stuck bison]

in m+ rarely happens

[restive peak]

xD

We got lucky

[meager void]

so much info in such undiscernible acronym

[restive peak]

Got 29 AD today

Aka free IO

[deep sapphire]

The real question is when is WoW going to get a cat race so I can be a raging kitty?

[stuck bison]

on bosses of course

[restive peak]

Bloodthirst Every Other Global Cooldown 😛

[pliant ridge]

If any of you can sim patchwerk 5 mins and show me you don't have empty gcd's please do

[ember apex]

cat race?

Khaijit?

[hard widget]

Still waiting for some people to not fuck up on 28 ToTT / EB zZzZ

[restive peak]

Ye stuck on those, I have 28 EB rn but probably just let it die on reset

[oblique trail]

The sim at most has 0.5 seconds of waiting last I checked

[hard widget]

Just send first part as arms and respec after first boss

[edgy widget]

we are, a lot of people just play it badly

[restive peak]

I've been reading that, may try

[hard widget]

If u insta respec after gnarlroot ur chilling

[ember apex]

sims play literally flawlessly with 0ms and perfect reaction time

[cosmic lance]

0.3s downtime in 5 minutes

[edgy widget]

that's not true

[ember apex]

like i said guys that isnt true

[hard widget]

If you run out of gcd's in st ur just 99% surely mismanaging rage / globals

[olive wraith]

Wouldn’t button delay generate more rage in general. More aa between abilities

[restive peak]

If anything the 0ms argument would make it even LESS LIKELY you'd have a dead GCD lmao

[meager void]

Goku is right.

[edgy widget]

Sims actually do have latency built into them; I wanna say it's ~150 default, which accounts for both lag and reaction time

[frozen lake]

In m+ every now and then, in single target really never

[hard widget]

The biggest reason people run out of gcd's is because they dont rage pool

[restive peak]

^ pressing ramp when you don't need to

Instead of BT

[hard widget]

Yup

[cosmic lance]

It happens in AoE when you get bad RNG and are forced to WW for stacks

Single target it basically doesnt happen

[frozen lake]

Yep

Precisely

[edgy widget]

sims do have perfect timing (although there's actually a setting that also randomizes your APL to simulate "fucking up" your rotation, I don't recommend using it)

But the Warrior APL is specifically written not to have hyper specific timing, like "refresh at 0.0s" because that's not something a player could reliably replicate

[grand umbra]

Shut the fuck up goober

[ember apex]

avg human reaction time is 250-300ms. WR is like 120ms

[cosmic lance]

Ok but if you're reacting to your rotation what are you doing

You know what button you're hitting next

[hybrid raft]

learning the spec

[ember apex]

then why does the APL have to be tuned for reaction time

[hard widget]

Its not "reaction time" tho, its predictable, u can see the cooldowns on ur abilities etc. The only unpredictable thing would be sudden death procs / reck procs

[restive peak]

You're not reacting once you're good, it's muscle memory

[ember apex]

to be clear, im not arguing, im trying to learn over here

[restive peak]

We know boo

[edgy widget]

different measurements of reaction time; I was more referring to physically actuating your keys, which is a "reaction time" of about 10-15ms

[restive peak]

I literally talk to my wife while doing easier bosses/M+ and my DPS barely ever suffers

[cosmic lance]

THere is literally zero buttons that are "oh this procced i need to press it NOW" for fury, and you have spell queueing

[restive peak]

I only ignore her when in high keys or progging lol

[edgy widget]

in most cases you don't need to actually "react" very quickly to your rotation, since most things proc off GCDs, meaning you have the entire GCD to react to it

[ember apex]

that makes sense

[edgy widget]

e.g. Sudden Death doesn't proc off autos, only GCDs, so you always have at least 0.750s to react to it, it doesn't need to be instantaneous

[modest condor]

even something like SD proccing off of rend for arms, you're not gonna suddenly drop 5k dps by delaying it by 1 gcd

[edgy widget]

there are a few things which break that mold (Arms current tier)

but yeah, what Sil said

[ember apex]

yeah the GCD is built in reaction time which is smart

[edgy widget]

anyway, my point was that the sim is actually built to replicate actual players more so than play as perfectly as a machine can play

[hard widget]

If you dont want downtime in ur rotation, start practicing rage pooling and you'll never run out in st

[restive peak]

Build BTEOGCD muscle mem, you only drop this when you have tier stacks, and you'll have zero issues

[left perch]

Rage pooling in this economy lmfao

[ember apex]

yeah i dont have dead global issues in raid

or M+ really

[hard widget]

Its like carpooling but better 😎

[restive peak]

[rugged hill]

off topic here, what's the dps range like for a 5 min patchwerk sim at around 488 ilvl with the axe?

[ember apex]

230-248k

[hard widget]

240k ish i believe

[ember apex]

prob

[modest condor]

245k or something

[ember apex]

sry

2

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/466867424969490452.webp?size=48&name=facepalm~1&quality=lossless

[modest condor]

+- a bit depending on which trinkets/secondaries you have

[cosmic lance]

And sockets

[rugged hill]

237k atm

[modest condor]

oh yeah sockets pretty big too

[rugged hill]

i feel like im really bad at simming idk

[spare otter]

im at 241k with axe

[modest condor]

each socket is like 1k dps

[pliant ridge]

~241k

[restive peak]

surely I get axe tm

🙂

[ember apex]

they should have made axe triple socket 🤤

[winter shoal]

SURELY

[thorny sparrow]

Can we talk about how we plate classes, all of us, with the axe are still average to below average on the dps classes

[oblique trail]

I believe in you

[thorny sparrow]

Like how

[restive peak]

We will absolutely kill fyrakk this reset too, so if I dont I'm gettin CE without it lewl

[spare otter]

because the axe is ass

[thorny sparrow]

How does a legendary make us average

[restive peak]

[winter shoal]

Fury is well above average wym

[thorny sparrow]

With a legendary we should be #1

[spare otter]

pure st boss dmg we're like the lowest im pretty sure

[thorny sparrow]

When we had Shadowmourne we were Gods

[restive peak]

Opposite, pure ST we are actually fairly high up

[young swan]

u sure?

[clever path]

Not lowest really

[rugged hill]

the axe feels pretty underwhelming

[spare otter]

one of the lowest

[clever path]

Not even one of the lowest bud

[restive peak]

It's just that the gap between #1 and #5 is batshit crazy

[edgy widget]

kinda depends on what metric we're measuring by

[ember apex]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fjt8ofW6wJyibSWzQ1e941

[edgy widget]

Overall, I'd say Fury is probably average/slightly above average across the game as a whole, but it really depends on context

[restive peak]

We perform quite well in this raid

[ember apex]

that's my 5min patchwerk w/ leggo

[winter shoal]

I mean middle of the pack is all pretty close so you could make the case that it's more average than above average, but certainly not a bottom performer

[olive wraith]

Our variance is pretty minimal too

[thorny sparrow]

Either way a legendary should put us above any non legendary class

[hollow saffron]

im voting s2 i think

[winter shoal]

Show filters coward

[pliant ridge]

votes are closed aren't they

[winter shoal]

All bosses

[modest condor]

oh hell yeah i love damage to all bosses

[iron portal]

I love healing parses

[cosmic lance]

Utterly meaningless metric

[edgy widget]

like I said, depends on the context

[hollow saffron]

just voted s2

[modest condor]

"hmm this boss we use half our cooldowns on adds i wonder why our boss damage is low, surely must be tuning"

[rugged hill]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vXSZmdLbCdN18uTMaLxqCU anyone wanna look at this and tell me whats wrong, prob the big thing is a missing augury and a hc brand?

[dense elbow]

Nah, dont think you did, Clush

[tiny notch]

i sim 150k with arms i have the axe

[restive peak]

I will say I think w leggo and 496 augury, we're gonna do quite well

[ember apex]

496 augury

i can only dream

[rugged hill]

also, how do i sim sockets 💀

[modest condor]

just get a 496 augury bro

[ember apex]

literally only dream about that item

[spare otter]

i mean even if you do specific bosses fury is mostly bottom half lol

[restive peak]

I get it when it drops pog

[modest condor]

you mean how you sim adding sockets to your gear?

[olive wraith]

One day I’ll get Aug

[modest condor]

gear compare and top gear both let you do that

[oblique trail]

Maybe I'll get HC Aug this wednesday

[ember apex]

i still have normal mode signet and 0 augury

[oblique trail]

Full HC vault moment

[rugged hill]

i mean like, to sim the right gems i should put in my gear

[winter shoal]

My guild has seen 1 augury drop and the guy who got it rerolled, gg

[restive peak]

I still have a normy augury

Lol

[modest condor]

oh that's just top gear

[rugged hill]

so just gear compare huh and put in all combinations?

ohh

[restive peak]

Gonna get CE w normal augury and no leggo poggers

[dense elbow]

Normal Aug club is best club

Wensday tho, Legendary and HC aug. For sure

[oblique trail]

LFR Aug moment

[ember apex]

ur never gonna win a roll for LFR augury at 480+ ilvl

0% chance

[olive wraith]

I don’t have brand or Aug

[ember apex]

i have normal mode brand

[olive wraith]

Why? 480s win curio

[ember apex]

they made changes to loot dist in LFR

make it more feel like PL while being need/greed

[dapper goblet]

sorry late reply, was chained up. I dont but dont think something like that should exist.

[ember apex]

u legit cant roll on some items at high ilvl

[dapper goblet]

think its a flaw in the gameplay

[ember apex]

ive done a ton of LFR

and ive never gotten an item on my main

from it

[indigo quarry]

we got the cancelaura macro canceleed on Arms for Fury to be cursed by a macro after smh

[meager void]

yo so, we dooming about our own community choice of s2>

[winter shoal]

Why would we doom about that

[cosmic lance]

I mean you're rolling against a whole new set of randoms every time you do LFR, your odds of getting items sucks most of the time

[ember apex]

s2 is gonna be pog. they're gonna overtune it

[meager void]

because new week is coming and we have to doom about leggo tbh

[ember apex]

just be happy we didnt get stuck w/ S3

[cosmic lance]

Especialy augury where every dps is gonna try take it whether its good or not

[winter shoal]

If I had to play s3 again I'd be committing soy sauce on the side

[ember apex]

u wot

[meager void]

I for one welcome our new S2 overlords

[winter shoal]

I'm so ready to have AM again

[meager void]

(but S3 is what I like)

[ember apex]

the one thing about S4 is at least we get the trinkets we want

[dapper goblet]

all hail s2

[left perch]

where exactly did you get the drugs for that smoke

[dense elbow]

S1 didnt win, we all very sadge

[ember apex]

wish.fish

[left perch]

heck yea ty

[odd star]

[sullen dove]

guess what macro you can make in s2 with the same rules as this one, onslaught and raging blow infront of rampage and it’ll do the same thing

[dapper goblet]

careful with that word

[cosmic lance]

Nah it won't, it'll just repeatedly try casting the first spell

99% sure

[sullen dove]

Though much like this season it only applies when reck is up

[pliant ridge]

yea bloodbath only works cause it doesn't exist without the buff

[meager void]

i believe this will happen but to the point where they hammer it down too much to compensate early

[sullen dove]

bring out the cast sequence

[meager void]

so its copium dooming

[winter shoal]

What's the macro tech did I miss something

[odd star]

no macro tech

[winter shoal]

Is it like the classic wow feral clearcast shit?

[dense elbow]

I doubt they will overbuff BT dam or the ramp% buff... I think it will come out at the same values as it was.

So all will be decent

[dapper goblet]

dont type the M word

[ember apex]

whats classic wow feral clearcast???

[dapper goblet]

7 day timeout unwarranted

[gilded pawn]

i can see a world where they slap a 15% on bt only

[winter shoal]

weakaura that would disable certain abilities if you had clearcasting so you wouldn't waste the proc

[hybrid raft]

what's the M word

[dapper goblet]

not falling for it

[hybrid raft]

[ember apex]

whats the proc

[clever path]

the rampage proc?

[ember apex]

'clearcast' sounds like mage stuff

no the feral druid wow classic clearcast

thing

[gilded pawn]

every free cast is called clearcast these days

[winter shoal]

Makes your next ability free, you want to use it on shred but if you don't react in time you can accidentally use it on like faerie fire and whatnot

So the wa prevents that

[ember apex]

ive never heard that word before in my entire life

[cosmic lance]

No it was literally called clearcasting for everyone that had it in vanilla

[ember apex]

got it tyvm

[cosmic lance]

For mages, shamans, druids

[ember apex]

i understood that explanation

[clever path]

I may sound stupid, but how does that work on warrior or there is no such tech?

and its just purely conceptual explanation

[hybrid raft]

free rampage

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[winter shoal]

I was asking xeos if he was referring to a similar macro

I'm not aware of one

[dapper goblet]

noggie video about it

[modest condor]

there used to be a talent that made execute crits give you free rampages in legion

[winter shoal]

But someone asked what I meant so that's an explanation of what I was asking xeos if there was an equivalent of it

[clever path]

Is there though any ability besides rampage that we can use on proc?

I know that if We had clap specced, itd be either clap or ramp

[hybrid raft]

execute

[winter shoal]

Idk I was thinking like a macro where if you have under x rage and reck is down and you try to rampage, it'll block that input and use bt instead or something

I don't know of any macro tech to make that work but maybe someone found a way to do it idk

[odd star]

[dapper goblet]

[cosmic lance]

Blizz generally blocks those sort of interactions because it falls under excessive automation

[clever path]

thats a very nice video, thanks to it my dps is perma increased

[dapper goblet]

the video isnt the macro vid

tbfg

[lean wasp]

ok am starting to regret making everyone in my guild pick s2

[sudden tusk]

speaks for us all Wonka

are you still blue man

[dapper goblet]

yes

[ember apex]

heheh

[winter shoal]

xeos I might be beyond cooked but I don't see any nnoggie vids in 4 months

[dapper goblet]

maybe was a clip

or a youtube short

[winter shoal]

Oh I found it ty king

[dapper goblet]

idk if those are the same

[winter shoal]

It's a twitch clip

[clever path]

link in #promotion ?

[winter shoal]

Idk it doesn't really seem that useful to me tbh

[junior gale]

its not

[clever path]

That was a lego wasnt it?

[modest condor]

idk i dndt play in legion i thought it was a lego that gave you a free talent

[clever path]

Maybe it was a talent

[urban tapir]

is the voting over, is it safe to come out yet

[clever path]

Where is the voting results

[olive wraith]

Voting is over

[junior gale]

I dont think its over yet but it seems like everyone has gotten their rage out so its safe

[olive wraith]

Debate still sparks occasionally

[left perch]

no people are gonna mald about results for 2 more resets

[errant vessel]

You can’t do this but you could for a short while when they accidentally made “cleartarget()” usable in combat

[clever path]

I gained like 200 io today

[ember apex]

did u tell ur mom

[flat river]

it's time to level my brewmaster monk

[olive wraith]

Man I can’t get into keys lol

[flat river]

obama is in the house

[clever path]

Sitting at like 3100 now

[dapper goblet]

there was a lego in legion that gave a free talent

[urban tapir]

ok I hide

[clever path]

How did you get that name for char

[dapper goblet]

idk what talent though

[cosmic lance]

There was a talent on the artifact that gave execute a chance to make your next execute free

[flat river]

it wasn't taken

lmao

[young swan]

soul of the battlelord and it gave u massacre

[flat river]

i also have a hunter named "Fartsmella" @clever path

[left perch]

Inshallah we will make it back to regular fury chat malding soon my brother

[flat river]

xd

real

[dapper goblet]

god smiled upon the polls this day

[left perch]

NO YOU DO LFR THEN NORM THEN HC FOR LEGGO CHANCES ITS SCIENCE

[urban tapir]

prayge

[sleek parrot]

yo just checked the votes, is fury playstyle saved for season 4? s2 wins?

[clever path]

I don’t think people will mald, now that the voting is over it’s more or less case closed discussion

[left perch]

I’ll take that bet

[clever path]

We just have to wait to see what they will implement now and then it’s going to be fun

[sleek parrot]

eu carried I guess, 50% of votes came in last 2 days

[cosmic lance]

At the mercy of class tuning

[dapper goblet]

bless eu

as a member of NA i'd like to apologize for my fellow compatriots voting for season 3

guess it wouldnt be my compatriots because i didnt vote season 3

[sullen dove]

odd way to spell bots

[dapper goblet]

but still

no botting

[clever path]

I wonder though, if there has been cheating for votes , then how ?
The actual tech behind it yknow, I mean, I voted with 15 chars and I got so bored of switching them over and over again

[dapper goblet]

my campaign

[tardy lark]

[sullen dove]

why xeos yappin bout s3 when you been playin the wonka

[dull sierra]

i voted with like 70

[dapper goblet]

i'd like to play fury as my main alt at some point

and not hate playing it

(season 3)

[tardy lark]

Xeos speaks truth tho

[clever path]

And it wasn’t tiresome to like switch em all the time kwkw?

[dull sierra]

oh it was

[grim leaf]

S2 won or S3, i'm seeing S3 on the wow website

[sullen dove]

melee blue man > any brown man

[dull sierra]

the issue is that half of them have the same name too

[dapper goblet]

@tardy lark 👑 🧎‍♂️

[dull sierra]

old gc characters

[warm crag]

i summoned thousands of voters to vote s2

[molten relic]

@restive peak

[dull sierra]

so i was just rng picking until i got the right one

[dapper goblet]

would you believe me if i said every key i did with a warrior i'd tell them to vote season 2

[clever path]

Nice lol , mini game

[dull sierra]

s3 won on na, s2 on eu

but s2 won by a bigger margin

[warm crag]

ye why not

this means eu will get s2 and na will get s3

[dapper goblet]

god i hope not

[ember apex]

i voted S2 even tho i wanted S1 b/c i just didnt want S3 to win more

[sullen dove]

please god if this company can do anything right for once the sets are all split between regions

[warm crag]

im sorry xeos ..

[hollow ridge]

wtf

[dull sierra]

real

[dapper goblet]

real

[clever path]

Do you really think they are going to separate instances ?

[sullen dove]

but they can’t do that

[sleek parrot]

yeah na is 49:40 and eu is 55:35

but eu has way more voters

[clever path]

Means double work for patching team

[warm crag]

no i am not why would they do that

[open prairie]

vote season 2 ret pally tbh

[dull sierra]

wdym wtf

[open prairie]

down with pink class

[dull sierra]

does taiwan vote on na forums?

[sullen dove]

Taiwan voting

[tardy lark]

if so, bless them

[sullen dove]

surely TW and KR out of nowhere underdog 95% s3 votes

with a hidden poll

[ember apex]

bro what if all of taiwan and OCE/AU voted for s3

fugg im sweating now

[sullen dove]

oce is part of Na

Pretty sure

[ember apex]

no like australia region

[sullen dove]

That’s in oce

[ember apex]

yeah OCE

[dapper goblet]

@burnt stone what did you vote for, king.

👑 🧎‍♂️

[sullen dove]

cow farmers will lay down the truth

whatever he says I will concede to

🧎‍♂️

[gilded pawn]

he cant vote

[sullen dove]

he can in his heart

[gilded pawn]

theres no vote for asia

[clever path]

Seems that OCE is indeed US

[dull sierra]

taiwan forums dont exist

[warm crag]

did asia not get a vote lol

[sullen dove]

[ember apex]

phew

[sullen dove]

democracy

[young swan]

ythisens

[dull sierra]

theres no class votes here

[warm crag]

@young swan what did you vote

[young swan]

s3

[warm crag]

perish

[sullen dove]

based

[dapper goblet]

xan says the lego is weak

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/gosling-drive-gif-27467650

[dapper goblet]

(free 23k dps)

[clever path]

Is anyone really considering rerolling because s3 lost ?

[young swan]

on use sucks

[dapper goblet]

he also got it week 1

[young swan]

its bad

[dapper goblet]

hate xan

[young swan]

on use sucks

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-lethal-company-quota-slap-gif-6977915187214085433

[dapper goblet]

free 30mil damage in keys

hate xan

[fringe flame]

i can finally go back to Arms and live my Blademaster fantasy

[warm crag]

this is me attacking xan

[sleek parrot]

I would have rerolled if I had to play annihilator for 10 months

[young swan]

from the dot

[sullen dove]

xan says leggo isn’t worth more than augury over the next best trinket

[ember apex]

i dont understand the everlasting allure/appeal of season 3 fury warrior

[dapper goblet]

xan changed

[young swan]

not what i said

[ember apex]

ppl love S3 so much its crazy

[dull sierra]

leggo sucks

[warm crag]

xan changed since the roninx yellow men copypasta

[flat river]

real

[young swan]

i said id trade the lego for augury and signet brand

[clever path]

On one boosting website you could pre order legendary for 70 euros

[young swan]

which i still would

[dull sierra]

but i have both what do i do now

[dapper goblet]

xan said and i quote "this legendary is so op it will make warriors meta in m+"

[dull sierra]

i still dont have leggo

[ember apex]

if i didnt get leggo, i STILL wouldnt have a mythic track weapon

[warm crag]

what the fuck xan???

[young swan]

so we're maker uppers now

[sullen dove]

[dapper goblet]

i dont make anything up

[young swan]

im going to blow my head off

[dapper goblet]

in minecraft

[ember apex]

@liveleak yo get in here

[clever path]

The Chinese letter + forum icons make me smile for some reason

[stuck bison]

can you send the that pasta again ? ronin pastas always makes me chuckle a bit

[young swan]

???

[warm crag]

crazy wikipedia agrees

[hollow ridge]

real

[young swan]

he says ur all stupid and fake

[warm crag]

hi dog

[flat river]

real

[clever path]

Our dogs have similar eyes

[young swan]

husky :3

mines an aussie shepherd

[flat river]

imagien being a dog persona nd not a cat person

[young swan]

im allergic to cats

[flat river]

AHAHA

noob

[tardy lark]

australian shepherd? you literally tuyped that right above me im dumb af

[young swan]

imagine classifying yourself as a type of person instead of just liking animals

[hybrid raft]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/season-4-tier-set-bonuses-and-transmogs-voting-concluded-337144

[young swan]

yessir

[keen forum]

I have both. The cat is too good to associate with the uncivilized dog though.

[flat river]

ITS OFFICIAL

[tardy lark]

gf and i are going aussie or bohemian shepherd come march/april

[young swan]

my dog loves cats but my lungs do not love cats so its gg

[fading bane]

no its not

[young swan]

i cannot recommend aussies enough

[fading bane]

blizzard hasnt posted anything

[sleek parrot]

gg boys fury saved

[young swan]

they are such good dogs

[warm crag]

this is not official lmao

[tardy lark]

gfs sister has an aussie which we've dogsat plenty of times

thats why its on the shortlist

lemme find pic

[hybrid raft]

not really

[young swan]

hell yeah

[sleek parrot]

its as official as it can be, if they pull some votes out of thin air now ppl are just gonna be mad

[fading bane]

well if u voted twice

then ofc it should be removed

[warm crag]

a third party announcing votes is not as official as it can be

[ember apex]

did they say for sure they were sticking to community votes

if devs want to do s3 and s2/s3 are 'close enoug' couldnt then just run s3

[olive wraith]

Blizz could just be like “1 vote per account” and it’ll change the results

[ember apex]

and screw ALL OF US

[olive wraith]

Not that I think the outcome will change at this point

[flat river]

its not?

[olive wraith]

That post is from wow head

[stuck bison]

it is wowhead not blizzard

[young swan]

its literally just a vote tally from wowhead

[upbeat sentinel]

Nah nobody would be upset with them deleting the votes of people who used alts

[flat river]

aww

[frozen tartan]

Praise the lord

[olive wraith]

I wouldn’t say “nobody”

[sleek parrot]

would be an even cleaner win for s2 I would imagine then, a bunch of people were talking here how they voted with every alt they had for s3

[hybrid raft]

people also used alts for s2

like me

[olive wraith]

Eu got a boost of several thousands within a few hours

[upbeat sentinel]

S2 gained 2500 votes in like 3 hours lmao

[young swan]

u think 1500 votes came for s2 2 days ago and they werent alts?

[stuck bison]

any alt users for poor s1 ? sadge

[olive wraith]

If any tier got inflated votes it’s s2

[sleek parrot]

yeah I did too but on average I can't imagine how majority of players would prefer this fury playstyle over what we had in s2

[upbeat sentinel]

They were cheating like fucking crazy

[sullen dove]

bots are stronk

[upbeat sentinel]

EU vote got botted into the dirt

The 2.5-3hour bot session on EU took the vote from this to what it p much ended at

[ember apex]

plz no

[young swan]

i doubt blizzard is gonna do anything about that

[upbeat sentinel]

Really easy to do something if the forums track it

[stuck bison]

is voting with alt chars count as botting ?

[ember apex]

i swear the NA vote was rigged. the poll was worded weird.

they said "which tierset u want updated" and until it was explained to me i voted season3 b/c i hated s3 and wanted it updated

i bet a ton of s3 voters thought that

[red peak]

So a question. I really like fury's flow of abilities in s3 and I only started playing at the end of s2.... Was the playstyle actually that good?

Just seems it was a case of spam an ability 5 times them rampage, rather than rampage every other cast

[upbeat sentinel]

Yes if you vote with 60 characters that’s botting

[dapper goblet]

haters will say its fake

[stuck bison]

i voted with 7 chars of mine

[olive wraith]

They didn’t edit the post afaik. I don’t think it was worded weird

[stuck bison]

is that botting ?

[tardy lark]

@young swan

[stuck bison]

old chars tho

[ember apex]

yes the APM was better in S2, the CD uptime was better, AoE was better (ur buffed ability cleaved)

[red peak]

If yiu used ww I assume

[young swan]

its basically the exact same playstyle, u press a lot of rb instead of a lot of BT and press ramp basically on CD to get cdr on reck and ravager

[young swan]

SO CUTE

[stuck bison]

i dont think you guys know meaning of botting xD

[red peak]

Which is the same as now right? Or do you mean raging blow

[stuck bison]

manipulation ? sure. but botting i dont think so

[red peak]

Rampage has a cd?

[young swan]

i dont think i messed up my wording

[tardy lark]

i grew up with a german shepherd so im very into the bohemian shepherd

try googling it

[young swan]

on cd is just a way of saying "as much as possible"

[frozen field]

people botting the mog votes too? lol

[upbeat sentinel]

You admitting to cheating the vote and trying to split hairs over “but I didn’t bot technically I did it by hand” lmao

[olive wraith]

Rampage doesn’t have cd. It had a rage cost

[clever path]

I dont know why you guys think s3 aoe is bad

[shell jackal]

i guess i'm not playing season 4 much then fellas

[clever path]

Im keeping up with outlaw rogues in 25+

[fringe flame]

They could have been worse and voted 60 times like Ironwall did.

[stuck bison]

cheating of what ? system allows it

[red peak]

S3 aoe seems pretty good to me between odyns and ww

[young swan]

oh thats so pretty

[sleek parrot]

I think the gameplay sucks compared to season 2

[clever path]

Its the same gameplay

[young swan]

i understand the split decision

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah voting with every one of your alts seems really intended and not like you found an exploit

[olive wraith]

Nah it’s not the same gameplay

[flat river]

no recklessness every pack = bad gamplay

[olive wraith]

Am and ra have pretty diff feels

[sleek parrot]

no it's not, give me anger managemenet and raging blow and I don't care what tier set does

[young swan]

reck isnt a real cooldown

[ember apex]

WHATTTTT

[olive wraith]

If you’re voting for gameplay and nothing else you do you

[clever path]

OF and avatar every pack isnt good gameplay?

[young swan]

just play am + rav now?

[flat river]

it is

[red peak]

That's the thing I really enjoy s3... I didn't get to use set bonus in s2. Did it flow better?

[young swan]

u can literally do that

[olive wraith]

If you’re voting s2 over s3 because you think it was better is where I get confused

[flat river]

also if u dont have RB u aren't true fury warrior

[sleek parrot]

sure if it was anywhere near optimal I would but I don't want to play suboptimal builds

[young swan]

the tier set was automated by a weakaura for s2

[fringe flame]

Nice, you have the moral equivalency of a 7 year old.

[hollow quiver]

S2 is nobrain

[clever path]

S2 fury was ass man

[stuck bison]

it is not botting tho. you cant make it automated. different things

[sullen dove]

apm was "better" 💀 holy yap

identical apm

forgot to mention st being complete dogshit asswater

[red peak]

I mean its a two button rotation right?

[young swan]

yeah

[clever path]

Our ST is better our burst is so much better s3

[young swan]

pretty much anyways

[shell jackal]

S2 fury was proper dogshit yeah. i really love how clean t31 feels.

[cosmic lance]

No issue with people voting because they like a playstyle but arguing based on apm, st and aoe is just demonstably wrong

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah so again you straight cheated the vote and are splitting hairs over “well I didn’t automate it”

[sleek parrot]

set bonus for both s2 and s3 is whatever but gameplay differences were huge, s2 gameplay flowed way better and that's because of am. also can't stand playing annihilator/without raging blow

[hollow quiver]

damn who voted S2 here? Is there another big war community?

[clever path]

Season 2 means I may take a break from the game entirely

[red peak]

High ap is shit if all it gets you is rsi

[flat river]

real warriors

[shell jackal]

^

[clever path]

Back to arms

[fringe flame]

How'd it flow better?

[olive wraith]

On here it seems like it’s pretty evenly split between s2/3

[shell jackal]

i remember you successfully trolling people a few weeks ago this season, i feel like that's all you're doing now, too

[ashen socket]

No shitters that want 1 empowered bloodthirst instead of 6

[vocal igloo]

how the fuck the trash shit bonuses won voting

[ashen socket]

because botting

[clever escarp]

s2 means i can finally enjoy class instead of playing cancer i mean s3

[sleek parrot]

yeah and majority of players might have taken a break if they had to keep playing with this build until next expansion

[flat river]

never trolled, only cooked.

[sullen dove]

yea all those bots taking a break very unfortunate

[clever path]

1 empowered that hit 1/3 as hard lol

[ashen socket]

You can't tell me that s3 was ahead all week then in 2 hours it all went to s2

[shell jackal]

never finished cooking 💀

[flat river]

i did, season 2 won.

[olive wraith]

I don’t think so. Majority votes s3 pre YouTubers making vids

[flat river]

the cooking is over

[mellow chasm]

People who like s2 are lobotomized

[fringe flame]

Good, they should expand their horizons. Go play other specs, go do other things. Defaulting back to something old. That's weak shit. That's regression.

[zealous quail]

S2 enjoyers lets fucking go

[upbeat sentinel]

@vocal igloo it won because of straight degenerate cheating like this lmao

[hollow quiver]

what about the best trinkets overall in raid? do we have an idea?

[olive wraith]

It’s am they like not the tier

[shell jackal]

ok cool

[sleek parrot]

maybe people didn't know voting was going on before then

[hardy spindle]

So many tears rn

[young swan]

augury + whatever sims highest

[dapper goblet]

feasting upon the s3 tears

[zealous quail]

S3 in the trash where it belongs

[lethal bloom]

when does the new gear come into place for us ?

[wild mica]

i hate annihilator but being able to actually press bloodthirst is so fucking good. I wanted s2 but voted s3 because the s2 set itself kinda sucked ass. Everyone who voted s2 because they wanted AM/ravager should've voted s1 instead tbh

[flat river]

real

[olive wraith]

4 days after voting opened?

[red peak]

Wait so s2... No wf no synergies and bloodthirst is shit.

[mellow chasm]

Let’s see blizzard do regional set bonuses

[torpid dragon]

why'd no one vote s1, yall fake

[shell jackal]

yeah we're just back to spam rampage, press BT for a big crit, spam rampage, repeat

[ashen socket]

Gotta love it swear to god if I see anyone that voted for season 2 complaining about fury dps being low next season I'm going to fucking obliterate you

[flat river]

lmao

[shell jackal]

fucking dogshit-ass gameplay loop that made the game stale for me

[young swan]

bloodthirst is good every 10 globals for s2

[sleek parrot]

screw bloodthirst we get raging blow and anger management

[red peak]

I could never vote lol, it just said my account was in I'd the whole time lol

[clever path]

Ayo that’s mean

[fringe flame]

how many players in wow? how many votes on the forums? It's pretty obvious most players have never visited the forums.

[zealous quail]

fury without AM is

[clever path]

“Good”

[young swan]

yeah still worse than a s3 bb

[mellow chasm]

Who wants to hit with the offhand all the time lmao

[glad coyote]

Did we get the tier we wanted/needed for mplus?

[sullen dove]

every s2 voter will be plagued with failing the 98% crit chance bt

[clever escarp]

yes

[glad coyote]

Amazing job

[sleek parrot]

yep

[mellow topaz]

holy shit what's happening here

[edgy widget]

I can't speak for every class, but it doesn't look like Warrior did

• on Friday, NA had 8,430 tmog votes and EU had 6,060
• As of closing today, NA had 10k and EU had 7.5k

So ~1,500 new votes or +18-20% new votes over 3 days. In both cases, the winning vote still won (S2 for both)

By contrast Fury gained 4,000 new votes or +30% from Friday -> Saturday, pushing S3 from a 1,200 vote lead over S2 to a 1,500 vote loss instead. Curiously, once S2 started winning by a landslide, the # of new votes returned to normal, only gaining about 500 new votes each day until close

[mellow topaz]

war?

[young swan]

no amount of tier is going to make us good in m+

[olive wraith]

It was a wowhead post. Majority of people who voted probably in a server that has the news feed

[upbeat sentinel]

No, it didn’t matter what tier we got we need retuned

[red peak]

I preferred my raging blow automated and windfury tbh lol

[frozen field]

Wild.

[flat river]

real

[zealous quail]

thank you for your service my robot brothers 🤖 🫡

[wild mica]

s4 is looking like an aug season

[olive wraith]

But again. People miss AM not the actual tier set

[shell jackal]

tbh the easiest option here for blizzard is just give everyone the availability to play whatever they want. but then they have to balance 30 something spec tier sets across all the classes.

[glad coyote]

We are pretty good this season

[sleek parrot]

oh hell no having no rb feels awful

[wild mica]

this

[young swan]

not compared to the meta!

[mellow topaz]

fuck the meta!

[fringe flame]

I don't get why they didn't make s3 tier OF/OS

[shell jackal]

s4 is looking like a reroll option. i'll play something that didn't get botted or shafted on the votes. lmao

[torpid dragon]

they stole the election? those damn s2 propagandists

[zealous quail]

fury without cooldowns is doing tank damage rn

[clever escarp]

Nah man thats untrue people just want anihilator to burn in deepest depths of hell fuck this talent

[ashen socket]

If you thought having season 2 tierset was gonna make us meta then you shouldn't have cast your vote

[olive wraith]

Kinda hard to do both sides without being awkward imo

[clever path]

STOP THE COUNT

[flat river]

when people start losing they make up excuses 🤷‍♂️

[sullen dove]

just like season 2, and the "highs" in season 2 are lower than the ones this season

[red peak]

OK that's the thing I question.... Like I always have rage.... I cannot dump it fast enough... I'm always enraged, so I'm really curious why people love it so much.

[edgy widget]

are people making up excuses? 🤔

[torpid dragon]

i demand a recount

[shell jackal]

out of curiosity, archi, what'd you vote for?

[olive wraith]

Majority of people voting for s2 aren’t voting for the tier sets they’re voting for am

[onyx summit]

Look at these warriors malding lul

[flat river]

yeah they say people bot cause we won

[olive wraith]

If you think otherwise I think you’re misguided

[flat river]

no offical evidence

[clever path]

Braindead

[zealous quail]

it was a fair election season 2 won

[edgy widget]

I didn't say anyone botted, but it is absolutely clear that there was manipulation involved - it's also confirmed that you could vote on multiple characters

[flat river]

characters or accouints?

[fading bane]

chars

[frail trout]

characters

[upbeat sentinel]

Someone in this discord literally just admitted to voting on 7 alts

[clever path]

Why do we fight brothers

[mellow swan]

Me not giving a fuck what the stupid ass tier set is as long as warrior is tuned and does good damage so there is a reason to take it over other classes

[crystal needle]

they should have at least made it one vote per account AND required some form of achiev like KSM or AOTC to even vote

[peak lagoon]

Fuck i shouldve logged into my warrior alts

[torpid dragon]

i hope blizzard thinks about this seriously and goes with s1 to punish those multi char voters

[sleek parrot]

I don't think there was manipulation, you just had bunch of popular streamers and youtubers advocate for it and people who didn't vote started voting after they heard their arguments

[red peak]

They should just go ham and add a full 8 piece set for s4

[flat river]

im just trolling @edgy widget <3

[ashen socket]

Nah anyone that voted for s2 ain't no brother

[mellow chasm]

Lmao like that’ll happen

[edgy widget]

characters, every vote on each character is counted separately

[frail trout]

looks like a reroll season to me, I wanted to try rogue anyway their rework looked fun

[upbeat sentinel]

Someone in this discord just admitted to abusing the multiple characters thing

[frail trout]

and they got good sets in s3, all s3 sets won

[upbeat sentinel]

How you gonna say there was no manipulation

[edgy widget]

it is 100% confirmed, I have video evidence lol

[fringe flame]

This dude did 60 votes. #fury message

[fading bane]

fated just keeps getting worse

[mellow chasm]

Multiple character should be an easy fix from blizzard

[fading bane]

botted poles

[hollow ridge]

was this around the time max made his tierset vod?

[mellow swan]

Warrior will never be meta in keys with its current toolkit without absurd damage

Doesn’t matter the tier

[hollow ridge]

couldve had influence

[sleek parrot]

that was the thing since day 1, people voted with multiple characters for season 3 and talked about it here

[sullen dove]

yea that was on thursday

[clever escarp]

almost everyone did that both s3 and s2 voters

[upbeat sentinel]

No lol “almost everyone” did not do that

[edgy widget]

if that was on thursday then no, this happened overnight between Friday and Saturday

[clever escarp]

okey then live in your delusion

[flat river]

why didn't people just mass vote season 1 ;-;

if they could ;-;

[olive wraith]

Because s1 is ass

[sullen dove]

i mean it could take like a day for people to rly start watching a video

[frozen field]

cause season 1 sucked

[olive wraith]

It’s like a 4% increase?

[flat river]

not real

[wild mica]

s2 is way more ass

[olive wraith]

Nah s2 bonus actually gave us more % cause ramp damage

[frozen field]

Idk how so many of you memory holed s1.

[sleek parrot]

season 3 is mostest ass

[olive wraith]

S3 is the best numbers wise

[wraith wharf]

real mature there

[wild mica]

if people voted s2 for anger management they should've gone s1 instead.

[red berry]

again they’d definitely tune the set. or so they say anyway

[young swan]

[wraith wharf]

don't vote on numbers, blizzard said they would tune it

[dapper goblet]

numbers!!

[flat river]

realest take i've seen so far

[red berry]

[covert coyote]

S3 with the haste we’ll have S4 is > AM plebs that can’t manage CDs

[sleek parrot]

who cares about numbers man, they will be tuned anyway, just give me satisfying gameplay

[olive wraith]

I don’t trust them to tune

[junior gale]

Blizzard aint tuning shit

[sullen dove]

voting on not dogshit 99% uptime spec, fuck the numbers

[mellow chasm]

I hope that the tuning is ass in s4. S2 voters will get what they want

[olive wraith]

They won’t tune it right

We haven’t had tuning for a year

[upbeat sentinel]

Dog if they can’t even be assed to make a new set they aren’t tuning shit

[dapper goblet]

doing less damage with enjoyable playstyle >

[sullen dove]

take reliable 90s cds that actually do something than "oo wow avatar is such a powerful 90s cd when you have 50% av uptime a fight!"

[wraith wharf]

i mean if you ignore the hotfixes sure

[clever escarp]

everything better than anihilator

[red berry]

why would they make a new set

[zealous quail]

were already tuned like shit might as well have an enjoyable play style to go with it

[sleek parrot]

truee

[flat river]

u good bro?

who hurt u

[red berry]

the point of fated is to minimize work

[lofty scroll]

Is s2 tier weaker than s3?

[young swan]

[sleek parrot]

annihilator hurt us

[mellow chasm]

Why on earth you wanna spam 1 button

[sullen dove]

yea

[hazy cedar]

I would rather do no dmg than to play annihilator

[clever path]

Maturity flew out of the window when people who voted for season 2 got called lobotomised. Thanks guys for name calling and all.

[mellow chasm]

Go back to classic

[flat river]

real

[frozen field]

[wraith wharf]

i mean, blizzard still might go a different one, either way at least season 2 appearance won by a landside

[clever escarp]

slam

[lofty scroll]

Dude why hahaha

[flat river]

real

[ashen socket]

Sounds like some shit that someone that doesn't push endgame content would say

[wraith wharf]

but by your standard slam doesnt do damage

[shell jackal]

i love how the rogue mains were based, came together as brothers and calmly discussed the best/most fun spec

[full viper]

Oh so Season 2 won. I remember warrior was top half last tier. I think it was arms for ST and fury for AOE burst. So we back for s4 ?

[dapper goblet]

season 3 voters are nothing but bullies

[sullen dove]

cope

[mellow chasm]

Imagine being a warrior and not wanting to hit slam. 16 year olds should not be allowed to vote

[clever path]

I consider everyone to be my brother and sister

[shell jackal]

but up in here we're just all mad at eachother

[lofty scroll]

I know everybody had their own take but that is baseline when it comes to dmg

[sleek parrot]

I push hight enough but it doesn't matter, voting was decided by casuals who prefer am gameplay simple as that

[flat river]

i swear i'd rather use HEROIC STRIKE than slam at this point

[sullen dove]

we're more back this season than last

[upbeat sentinel]

The S2 voters are in here justifying the mass cheating on the EU vote lmao. Lobotomized as shit. “Na everyone must’ve cheated not just me :)”

[red peak]

You barely use slam though?

[frozen field]

"I'd rather use one meaningless button over another meaningless button"

[snow edge]

You realise that multi-voting occured for both S2 and S3 right

[sullen dove]

spend 3 seconds reminding yourself the dmg profile of last season in the current raid tier, realize that its just objectively worse, you reap what you sow

[dapper goblet]

season 3 tears

[red peak]

And speeding up odyns via BT crit was fun lol

[full viper]

I prefer raging blow than slam though. Because slam is an Arms ability and even that we don’t use slam for awhile already.

[pliant summit]

WAIT DID SESSION 2 WIN?????

[ashen socket]

Not even close to the level that s2 had

[wild mica]

they should've just gone crazy and added all 3 bonuses together at the same time

[lofty scroll]

S3 warrior was not clunky at all lol

[shell jackal]

yes the dogshit season won

[upbeat sentinel]

A 2500 swing in 2.5-3 hours says otherwise on the scale of it.

[flat river]

tilted

[snow edge]

I didn't realise so many people had access to the raw vote data

[pliant summit]

YEAH OOOOOWOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO IM SAVED I CSNT WAIT TO PLAY WARRIOR LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

[junior gale]

Yes the not Dogshit set one

[edgy widget]

tbf it's pretty easy to look at the numbers day to day

[plucky wedge]

annihator is deaaaaad

[clever path]

I dunno mate, I’m nit a scientist and don’t know . I just voted for what I like and it’s season 2 . Who voted for what is their own thing feel me

[flat river]

remove anighalator as talent

[wraith wharf]

well, till blizzard comes out and says something it still might change but we willl see

[clever escarp]

real

[frosty spade]

What is the best SET for Warrior Fury S2 or S3?

[torpid dragon]

every time i'm forced to press slam, i start shaking. thank god annihilator is dead!

[lofty scroll]

That’s fine but but we are gonna be low on those meters

[sleek parrot]

s2

[olive wraith]

Explain

[wild mica]

s2 set is actually terrible though, people just remember AM/ravager

[young swan]

answering based on build and not tier set

[chilly iron]

they will buff S2 surely 😄

[quiet oak]

S1

[snow edge]

Sure, but that also could be attributed to sway brought on by streamers pushing certain tiers, not just multi-votes

[young swan]

s2 tierset is garbage by direct comparison

[upbeat sentinel]

If they don’t make recolors of the winning appearance then 💀

[ashen socket]

Ah yes you are going from a 1-2 1-2 combo to another 1-2 1-2 combo

[outer locust]

Let’s go EU brothers. Thanks @mossy fox

[flat river]

Critcake is BiS

[sleek parrot]

actually no, idk which set is better. but any set where I don't play annihilator and reckless abandon is better

[clever path]

Ima laugh when they revoke s2 due to manipulation

[full viper]

To be fair, I think season 2 is a compromise cuz it allows more diversity in builds. Those who want to play ravager can do so while those who want OF can do so. That’s why I vote for it although to be honest, I didn’t like Ravager much as well.

[plucky wedge]

BT spam is fun though xd

[junior gale]

@mossy fox Saved Fury

[chilly iron]

Critcake our king

[edgy widget]

you can play Ravager with S3 btw

[glad coyote]

The meta hasn't been determined yet imo this season

[zealous quail]

aint nobody playing OF with the S2 tier

[olive wraith]

If you’re judging based entirely on set. S3 is better. If you voting playstyle that’s entirely subjective

[edgy widget]

don't needlessly ping people, it's rude

[ashen socket]

I doubt that will happen, As much as it should happen

[young swan]

warrior isnt part of it

[lofty scroll]

What does critcake have to do with your warrior….

[quiet oak]

is the poll closed? Someone posted that S2 won

[shell jackal]

pragmatic. we have to go back to a clunky playstyle loop for an entire season & i'm not terribly pleased about it.

[wild mica]

I've been doing 25s playing AM/Ravager with s3 set and it's more than good enough.

[frosty spade]

I feel that Season 3 is better, that's why I don't understand how the hell I won S2

[upbeat sentinel]

What do you mean meta isn’t determined yet, we’re months into the season

[flat river]

THIS season is clunky, LAST season was fun

[lyric panther]

well it got like 2.5k votes in a few hours mysteriously

[sleek parrot]

cool, if they can make build that uses am and raging blow be the best with season 3 set then that works for me

[junior gale]

Sowwy

[hazy cedar]

I was thinking of switching off fury for the first time of playing this game if season 3 won. happy I will be staying 🙂

[ashen socket]

It's very clear what the meta this season is take your cope goggles off please

[wild mica]

how are you guys playing fury right now thinking it feels clunky? Am i playing a different game? Annihilator sucks but it's fluid

[olive wraith]

People hating on s3 seem to have wrong notions about the build. Incorrectly saying there’s a bunch of down time. And much lower apm. And most of all reeeee slam is on my bars

[robust basin]

Shout out too the EU bros for saving us from another season of annihilator

[zealous quail]

i LOVE downtime

[mighty swan]

we back boys, s2 gameplay

[frozen field]

It is always funny when people complain about S3 being bad and cite "low apm" or "clunk"

[sullen dove]

mistyped bros think u mean bots

[young swan]

u only have downtime if u play bad

unlucky

[mellow swan]

There is nothing clunky about current fury that’s just people using that word and not knowing what it means

[sleek parrot]

its definitely clunkier than season 2

[lyric panther]

In what way?

[wild mica]

there was a time early in s2 where annihilator was simming better. careful what you wish for.

[chilly iron]

cd on ww suck

[olive wraith]

Elaborate please

[lofty scroll]

Some of you guys are arguing about your opinions haha 😂

[fading sky]

Why??

[ashen socket]

If you're dogshit yeah, It's not clunky at all if you know how to play it correctly.

[modest python]

It literally comes off cd once you use all 4 stacks

[sullen dove]

that was def in ptr when s2 build was basically the s3 set, you spammed double bb rampage just like early season 1, live version never once was it ok to play annihilator with s2

[pliant summit]

OoooOooOoooOooooOoo I’m clicking my heals together jumping for joy season 2 my beloved no slam no anni oooOoooOooOoOoo this has to be the perfect time line

[lyric panther]

How often are you pressing WW?

[chilly iron]

cuz if u are a lil bit in range u cant spam it

[plucky wedge]

Hi Kawayo @austere lark

[shell jackal]

cool I get to put down reck and ravager, wait, the tank moved all of my mobs out of ravager, okay now i have to watch my stupid fucking sad red circle spin slowly towards the mobs because the tank pulled them away from ravager - and now all my damage is gone

[zealous quail]

the damage from ravage wasnt the good part of that button

[mighty swan]

[ashen socket]

I'm so happy to go back to a set that makes it where my execute phase means nothing again

[wanton mirage]

So is there voting manipulation drama only in fury? Is there any in other spec?

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah y’all are about to find out the absolute pain of DKs this tier. Pugging sucks so fucking bad on them because “Oh im in my death and decay I can AoE!!!!… the tank ran away”

[shell jackal]

stop posting gifs u goddamn animals

[sullen dove]

bro couldntve found an uglier gif if he tried

[mighty swan]

omg some ppl will really miss this tier set i cant believe it

[wild mica]

are there other specs who are this divided on their set?

[terse idol]

@wanton mirage idk but I'm loving this

[amber silo]

i dont want to hear it were all warriors here why cant we post gif lie wtf XDDDDDDD

[wanton mirage]

Wait we haved played S2 already. So s2 voters already know that

[lofty lantern]

at least most of the beer kegs will reroll to ret paladins and we will invite warriors in keys again

[lyric panther]

Even though its only fated not looking forward to going back to basically bottom of the back on ST with Season 2 though

[lofty scroll]

Is the leggo still gonna relevant?

[scenic ginkgo]

Atleat i know i won't be inviting warriors next season

[shell jackal]

rogues all went "this seems like the best one, let's pick it", like we should have done w/ season 3, and called it a day. lmfao

[sullen dove]

yea theres prolly a way to upgrade leggo next season

[ashen socket]

So glad we also made shockwave a feelbad pick again for keys in s4

[clever escarp]

and we picked the best one but you still refuse to call it a day

[quiet oak]

hell no. I spend more time than any other tier set doing nothing just waiting for some cd

[wanton mirage]

Fated new Adds are staionary confirmed to optimized our ravager...

[robust basin]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[lofty scroll]

Alright thank you

[wild mica]

you're playing extremely wrong

[flat river]

real

[olive wraith]

Of is shorter cd than rav

[sullen dove]

yea except they live exactly 4 seconds long glhf getting any aoe on them

[lyric panther]

You're playing it very wrong if you're waiting on cds for anything

[clever path]

“We”🤖🤖🤖🤖

[dreamy trellis]

We did

[clever escarp]

beep bop yes beep bop

[lofty scroll]

You win some you lose some

[quiet oak]

no way i would pick S3. S1 was my pick, but im happy with S2 as long it isnt S3

[upbeat sentinel]

And y’all chose suffering anyway lmao

[flat river]

i think you misclicked and meant to say season 2 instead of season 3

[shell jackal]

i mean, archi pointed out earlier that there was some kind of manipulation happening, "it was absolutely clear" in fact. quit kiddin urselves fellas. the win wasn't justified or clean. but we can't do shit about it now, so it is what it is.

[jovial coral]

Can not believe this voting manipulation man smh

[edgy widget]

lets not get political here

[wanton mirage]

I did vote S3. But I am okay with S2 winning.

[twin harness]

dk discord says wowhead is just wrong on soem of these too

[dull sierra]

I DEMAND A RECOUNT

[sleek parrot]

there was no manipulation, just people voting based on what their favorite players/content creators suggested

[upbeat sentinel]

I mean they’re showing all the trued up totals so idk

[junior gale]

if ppl were abusing the whole vote with multiple characters its very safe to assume ppl also did the same with S3

[jovial coral]

RECOUNT?!?!??!!? BEST ADDON TO EVER EXIST?!?!?

[wintry tulip]

free xeos...didnt do anything wrong

[ashen socket]

Not if it was winning by over 1000 votes

[sullen tendon]

Why did EU troll teh vote

[twin harness]

yea but for the DK sets at least the numbers on wowhead are incorrect

[wild mica]

give eu s2 let us keep s3

[sleek parrot]

all the people who voted for s3 with multiple characters did that in first few days, overall there is just less people in favor of season 3 than season 2, simple as that

[upbeat sentinel]

People in this discord admitted to manipulating. Stop claiming there was no manipulation when I can literally just use the quote function on them lmao. It also wasn’t “equal cheating” - EU vote changed radically over a period of 3 hours, NA never really shifted. Also means the streamers weren’t the cause unless you think they only have EU viewers

[dull sierra]

this number looks right to you?

[junior gale]

Im winning therefore I shouldnt cheat? that doesnt make sense at all. its crazy to think only one side would cheat to win

[edgy widget]

I didn't look at all the #s' but the it looks like Tmog, Blood, and Frost sets are all correct, Unholy is wrong though - I passed a note to the author

[twin harness]

yea cuase they typed a 2 in lol

[olive wraith]

Waiting for elaboration

[ashen socket]

Ok the brain rot of some of you is insane here.

[sullen tendon]

im not playing season 4 if they dont fix season 2

[wanton mirage]

Pick someone who represents S3 and pick someone who represents S2.

Make a Mak'gora duel in retail.
Let whoever win choose the tier set.

Warrior way!

[lofty scroll]

Yeah

[sly sky]

Started fury this season, did we get trolled in the votes?

[shell jackal]

unfortunately

[clever path]

Yes

[sullen dove]

yeah

[pliant summit]

Yeah thank god

[upbeat sentinel]

They’re not fixing shit man how do y’all not understand what a fated season is 💀

[flat river]

real gamer

[edgy widget]

if you just started, then I don't think you have enough of a frame of reference for it to matter 😆

[terse idol]

Not trolled just a very split community

[warm pond]

You lot got Season 2 set. Topkek. GOOD LUCK.

[dreamy trellis]

They tried but didnt win

[dull sierra]

no

[sinful spoke]

yeah "thank to the manipulators" you mean

[lofty scroll]

I just understand why some of you guys picked the lower dmg set.

[sly sky]

Well started as an alt, s3 seems so strong compared just looking at the bonuses

[plush juniper]

Isnt season 2 really bad for any target count higher than 5?

[clever path]

Yes

[sullen dove]

no the trolls did win wym

[next canopy]

Which season won for set in s4?

[warped bone]

I picked the one i find more fun shrugs

[flat river]

more fun???

[sleek parrot]

because it's more fun to play, or at least the more optimal talent build is more fun to play

[frozen tartan]

Because its about damage... yeah right

[edgy widget]

• in raid/st it is massively ahead
• in MT it's very slightly behind (~4% vs 10 targets)

But some people think it will be better in M+ and others just like the S2 playstyle better

[ashen socket]

Can we make a pin for what set won so people can stop asking

[dreamy trellis]

No they didnt

[lofty scroll]

It’s still low dmg whatever you might say. I’m just telling the truth

[clever path]

Its also terrible for any target count under 5

[dull sierra]

they're supposed to be balanced

[upbeat sentinel]

Imagine thinking pins will ever stop the question from being asked 99x

[frigid saddle]

S2 or S3 set better for ST in raid?

[wild mica]

I feel like 90% of vote for s2 were just because of s3 annihilator playstyle

[next canopy]

Did season 2 win?

[sullen dove]

tragically

[twin harness]

they just updated it and dk votes are correct now

[flat river]

yes my firend, the torture is over

[edgy widget]

Yeah, I talked to em

[lyric panther]

S3 significantly better ST

[warped bone]

I g'dang found S3 so booooring to play. Even if the balance for S2 ends up trash I'll still get to enjoy the more fun playstyle

[clever escarp]

thankfully yes

[wanton mirage]

I think people picked season2 because at least they didn't get outdmaged by freaking DH and BMs at that time. Selective memory

[lament hamlet]

STOP THE COUNT!

[edgy widget]

you mean the pin that's already there?

[plush juniper]

I'm curious about this, because Odyns Fury is uncapped? I'd expect s3 to perform exponentially better as target count increases

[lofty scroll]

Smh guys

[stable frost]

EU players are mentally handicapped

[edgy widget]

Because it has a lower cooldown

[clever path]

Now it will happen by a bigger margain

[wild mica]

Can you explain me how it's more boring to play? You're playing rampage raging blow instead of rampage bloodthirst. Same shit.

[rose sparrow]

Really? S2? 🥲

[next canopy]

Wooo we did it!!! eww what is up with this 1 min timer when sending messages

[young swan]

s3 by a lot

[dreamy trellis]

NA are just horrible losers

[warped bone]

Talent choices allows it to feel smother instead of janky.

[sullen dove]

we arent 🤖 s at least

[delicate fulcrum]

How the fuck its going to be better when we lose +30k free Hps in highkeys?

[arctic copper]

tha angrier you get the faster the CD recovers on sending messages.

[mellow swan]

Are the polls combined from every region so everyone gets s2?

[lofty scroll]

It’s really not the set but the dmg. Aight I’m done

[lament hamlet]

only the russians and maybe the germans

[wanton mirage]

Are you sure DH won't get nerfed next season?