fury

[edgy widget]

I was like "wtf is a saurfang arrangement?"

[meager gyro]

tier stonks are looking good y'all

[deep sapphire]

Saurfang became a florist.

[lofty delta]

Sometimes i reck into charge and get no rage, very annoying. not sure why.

[neat gazelle]

I prefer edible arrangements

[neat gazelle]

Can charge get parried 💀

[deep sapphire]

I think rage gets reset on boss pull if you do it early.

[lofty delta]

wat

ewwww

[coarse nest]

you have to be in combat first

[deep sapphire]

I’ve had rage reset to zero on boss pull and it hurts me.

[lofty delta]

well, that'd explain it

[edgy widget]

exactly this

[coarse nest]

so like usually if you charge into reck before reaching the boss youre good

as long as tank pulls fast

[edgy widget]

you don't go down to zero, but the boss_combat_start event flag will reduce you to a max of 20 rage

[inland flame]

Good ol days before resources reset. Our Shadow Priest make us wait an extra 2min to pull Malkorok so they could build orbs on the target dummies downstairs.

[edgy widget]

it's there to prevent people from hauling trash around to bosses or dropping dummies in order to juice themselves up first

[lofty delta]

so i've been ninja pulling haha

[edgy widget]

you can still Reck -> Charge, you just don't want to do it before the actual pull occurs

that extra 0.1s isn't saving you any DPS

[coarse nest]

Right

[edgy widget]

tanks hate him

[coarse nest]

well, youre just a mili second early is all

[edgy widget]

if you're anything like my group, a mage/boomkin/hunter/shaman/dh or some other fuck nut always pulls somewhere between 2.3 and 1.5 anyway

[coarse nest]

literally same lmao

[neat gazelle]

I blame boomkins and warlocks

Didn’t they use to stack up buffs and go ham

[deep sapphire]

I got blamed on Igira prog for “pulling early repeatedly” when spellcasters would pop out of shroud during their spell cast and start the boss fight. I’d just charge in cause the boss moved.

[edgy widget]

there are addons to show who actually pulled

[olive wraith]

Quick help

[edgy widget]

or you know, shadowplay

[olive wraith]

Do we hold cds on m gnarl

[edgy widget]

really depends on your group, but generally no; unless they're letting you do all the AoE, just treat it like a ST fight that you get to AoE a little bit

[deep sapphire]

You could check Lorrgs

[olive wraith]

Ca r

Can’t

[edgy widget]

othewise the adds typically die too fast to warrant saving full cds

[deep sapphire]

Yeah they were just going off of “first hit” which was really dumb.

[neat gazelle]

OF lines up when I did heroic on my warrior Atleast

[edgy widget]

OF will line up with a small amount of delay, yeah

[unreal onyx]

dbm shows first target to see who pulled

iirc

[edgy widget]

but I meant not delaying your other cooldowns for adds

[deep sapphire]

My raid is forced to use bigwigs.

[clever path]

When you are in fury chat and have no idea what is raid and all terms and namings besides basics are just looking like galaxy brain

[flat river]

someone link NA votes

plz

[olive wraith]

Kk ty

[subtle lagoon]

pins

[flat river]

im not NA

[flat river]

ok nice season 2 is still winning overall

[subtle lagoon]

I'm not either but you can see and vote

[flat river]

no bugged for me

[deep sapphire]

Yeah voting manipulation is nice.

[wanton mirage]

lore question, is gnarloot from the raid same as gnarloot from EB ? long-lost brothers?

[clever path]

No you can’t vote unless you got NA char

[willow cradle]

alt draenor

[cosmic lance]

Same guy, different timeline kinda thing

[subtle lagoon]

Fair I probably have an na character from years ago tied to my account

[fickle bluff]

gnarlroot is actually from the darkshore warfront as well

[flat river]

copium alert

[edgy widget]

since yesterday's massive swing yeah - votes barely moved today

[flat river]

poggers

[clever path]

These are outdated by now

[upbeat sentinel]

From yesterday b4 manipulation

[clever path]

If I understood correctly

[edgy widget]

pretty much every day got ~1k total votes per day (minus the first, which had more for obvious reasons), except yesterday, which got about 3,000

[neat gazelle]

Dude went to sleep and we killed him in his sleep

[deep sapphire]

2.5k vote swing in 3 hours after a technique is learned on how to vote repeatedly? Definitely not manipulation.

[inland flame]

Its gonna be so interesting to see how S2 and S3 work out against each other

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah people started blatantly cheating it after they realized they could

[clever path]

I really just want for this to be over

[neat gazelle]

S3 winning now ??

[clever path]

It sucks to see brothers against brothers

[flat river]

if you want to know hows it's prolly that people who voted for season 1 re-voted for season 2 because they don't want season 3 to win

[upbeat sentinel]

Na that was from before the cheat got found

[neat gazelle]

Ahhhh

[edgy widget]

and yet the # of S1 votes didn't really change 😆

[deep sapphire]

That would mean season 1 would have to lose votes for that to happen.

[flat river]

oh

[coarse nest]

Season 3 is just better

kinda re the M+rs get to choose our raid tier set

yikes

[neat gazelle]

You mean before critcake put out his propaganda

[edgy widget]

also there weren't that many S1 votes in the first place for a 20-30% swing to come from people "changing votes"

[flat river]

maybe someone sent a link to another class discord and paid them

XD

[edgy widget]

It's 100% alt voting manipulation

[clever path]

There will be reckoning

[inland flame]

I love it, we're already tearing each other apart and now there's tinfoil hats in our midst

[deep sapphire]

They found out you can create alts and vote again on the alt.

[edgy widget]

incidentally, look at the number of low level alts that have started spamming the discussion forums 😏

[silver mantle]

Bro, 2 people from my raid just got legendary... 😡😡💥

[flat river]

really?

[upbeat sentinel]

2.5k vote swing in 3 hours lmao

[edgy widget]

yup, over and over again

[indigo quarry]

look at the number of people influencing other to vote

[flat river]

ok but like before manipulation who was winning

[upbeat sentinel]

It’s not a tin foil hat it’s blizzard being completely incompetent

[deep sapphire]

S3 was winning by a lot

[clever path]

We should obliterate DH vote

[clever path]

And vote for the worst tier they had

[coarse nest]

It should be 1 vote per Active subscription* blizzard account

[edgy widget]

• S3 was winning by ~1,200 votes on Friday afternoon
• by Saturday morning, there ~3,000 new votes, and S2 was winning by ~1,000

[coarse nest]

you only vote for your main

[flat river]

pog

[upbeat sentinel]

It should require an active subscription and at least a level 60 of that class too lmao

[deep sapphire]

I think they should make it you have to have a cap level character of that class to vote.

[upbeat sentinel]

Why is the vote not done ingame

[inland flame]

Shoulda just let max level chars vote by going to an NPC in game or sumn

[fading bane]

is this from a wowhead article that also shows other classes?

[upbeat sentinel]

Ya

[north edge]

ingame takes developer time

[inland flame]

But I realize the whole point of this is to keep us going until War Within with almost 0 effort

[fading bane]

can u link

[north edge]

which is too valuaable

[fading bane]

the forums just dont work

[deep sapphire]

Fury has more votes itself than entire classes.

[north edge]

we're not even getting class balancing

i fully expect us to be ass until TWW

[upbeat sentinel]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/current-winning-tier-set-bonuses-and-transmogs-for-dragonflight-season-4-337126

[fading bane]

ty

[coarse nest]

LOL just got the Kor'kron juggernaut while farming shoulders

[upbeat sentinel]

All vote totals are from a day ago tho

[coarse nest]

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/slayer-slayer-fan-slayer-ccream-slaytanic-slayeeeeeer-gif-12092692

Literally me

[upbeat sentinel]

Bold of you to assume TWW will fix it

[fading bane]

thats fine, i just wanted to see what sets potential alts are likely to get

[flat river]

hmm

[dreamy trellis]

updated votes

[upbeat sentinel]

Ya my phone wouldn’t scroll to the side to show the tots tab idk why

[dreamy trellis]

didnt change much expect higher numbers ^^

[north edge]

im not saying tww will fix it

just saying we might get some tuning changes for TWW because new system

[flat river]

hopefully s2 set wins

[north edge]

whether we're ass or not is to be determined

[frozen lake]

ass during TWW

[north edge]

i just know next week im not getting invited to keys

[wooden halo]

appreciated chief

[north edge]

afflicted week

[dreamy trellis]

s2 just feels more like fury tbh

[north edge]

but not that im getting invited to keys atm either

[narrow niche]

🙏

[upbeat sentinel]

Ya I’m just gonna blow through an 18 on the war and dk and then stop keys for the week

Suffering will be immense

[deep sapphire]

I don’t know how anyone can look at how many votes popped up out of the blue and think this is legit.

[flat river]

season 1 feels more like it but yeah the talent build is the same

guys anyone here form california, im going on the 17th to visit some family in san hose

[oblique trail]

Are you gonna keep talking about the votes for the rest of the evening or wat

[flat river]

where should i go

[silver mantle]

Yeah, instead of talking about the votes that literally do not matter

How about we address the issue of me not getting legendary for the 8th week in a row

[flat river]

[deep sapphire]

That’s like asking people who watch football if they’re going to keep on talking about the playoffs for the rest of the day.

[coarse nest]

Surely next week

[past pivot]

It's fated. Which season doesn't matter. It'll be lol whichever wins. Don't like it? play another toon or take a break.

[oblique trail]

I don't watch football so I don't know what this means

[coarse nest]

[north edge]

anyone else bought the budget warglaives mog

[silver mantle]

I think the bad luck protection is bugged on my account

[oblique trail]

But talking about it again for the nth time of the day

[silver mantle]

Surely

[oblique trail]

Is just a bit silly isn't it

[flat river]

wtf is your brightness

[coarse nest]

Yo those kinda sick

[lyric panther]

my eyes

[coarse nest]

where from?

[oblique trail]

People have seen and made all the points about it at this point

[dreamy trellis]

there was a big jump in numbers when the wowhead article droped

[north edge]

something is messed up from my monitor HDR when i take screenshots

its from the BMAH assistant person

100k

[flat river]

just turn off HDR

its a scam

[deep sapphire]

Okay and people have seen and made all the points about plenty of things involving our class and guess how many times they still get brought up?

[coarse nest]

In dalaran basement?

[north edge]

valdrakken

[oblique trail]

I think those are equally as stupid because they're often by the same people saying "vote for season X" "Season X is better/worse"

[nova lintel]

speaking of legendary, can someone explain how it works during fated? do we have to get another one?

[inland flame]

We're just trying our best to play into our class fantasy. Skyhold is an RP server, didn't you know?

[fringe flame]

That mounts dropped 3 times for me. The second time was funny, the third time, I was annoyed.

[oblique trail]

And it's also the same people talking to the same people about the same convo they've had 20 times

[deep sapphire]

You don’t have to stare at this chat all day if you don’t like it.

[lyric panther]

for the hutner one last time I think they sold an upgrade token for it on the dinar vendor

if you already owned it

[nova lintel]

will it upgrade to legendary ilvl, or just a heroic

[oblique trail]

You don't have to think about the votes either all day and just wait for the voting to pass instead of clearly on the verge of losing sleep over it?

[past pivot]

We don't know. Either we buy a new one, or we we buy a token to upgrade the existing one

[coarse nest]

Homie whats the npc name so i can wowhead it?

[meager gyro]

just remember everyone, if s4 is going to be s3 tier set, you can just play arms for a season

[coarse nest]

or item name

[deep sapphire]

Bruh you’re the one whining about people repeating something that’s been said.

[cosmic lance]

Farm a new one but this time you can only get it every 3rd week

[nova lintel]

yeah i just read the dinar thing from SL and it says they upgrade to normal/heroic ilvl depending on the token, but i cant find anythign how the legendary worked

[oblique trail]

I'm saying you've had this convo a million times already while I've glanced in here, surely you have something else you want to talk about or do in your day

[upbeat sentinel]

Warriors not even looking at their vault loot s4 week 2

“Coins, token, lege”

[deep sapphire]

I’m just lounging about on my Sunday having a discussion with multiple different people. You don’t have to obsess over me.

[upbeat sentinel]

I didn’t play the start of fated last expac, did they actually do WF shit?

Or did no one care

[sinful spoke]

dw gys imma vote on all 100 of my alts across both regions

to make sure s3 wins

[flat river]

anyone for +24 galakronds fall?

[upbeat sentinel]

Keep yourself safe

[sinful spoke]

sure

let me in

[lyric panther]

I just looked it up to remind myself looks like it upgraded to same ilvl as other weapons like gavel

[coarse nest]

all warrior?

[upbeat sentinel]

Is there a benefit to 24 over 20

[coarse nest]

ill tag if na

[sinful spoke]

io

[upbeat sentinel]

So no

[sinful spoke]

"so no" 🤓

[flat river]

name?

[flat river]

yes

[sinful spoke]

chaychay-moonguard

[past pivot]

@nova lintel @cosmic lance Well, we have more than 2 months left in this season so plenty of time to learn what will happen

[clever path]

guys does enrage affect legendary use dmg?

[upbeat sentinel]

It says damage done

So ya

[flat river]

wait ill start a group and call it zug zug time

u join

[sinful spoke]

🫡

[clever path]

[flat river]

@clever path wanna join

[flat river]

it's up

[upbeat sentinel]

Fellow moon guard degen

[sinful spoke]

is this eu or na

[flat river]

eu

[sinful spoke]

im NA

[flat river]

sadgers

[sinful spoke]

i was gonna pump too

[unreal onyx]

476 signet

[flat river]

[unreal onyx]

no pump detected

[flat river]

XD

[sinful spoke]

SHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UPSHUT UP

[eternal sundial]

No helm socket

[sinful spoke]

no bitches

[eternal sundial]

No 489 bag ilvl

[flat river]

rezahn trink in m+? no pump

[past pivot]

No Augury

[coarse nest]

Bro need the weppy

games holding out

SMH

[sinful spoke]

this is all i have

[flat river]

look, i don't have any flightstones

XD

[forest rose]

sigh another person i know got the legendary from lfr

[flat river]

wtf

[forest rose]

also god damn gala

[eternal sundial]

Bros getting a boost passing it off as x5 wari run

[flat river]

lol

[coarse nest]

LOLOL

[forest rose]

hey if your getting boosted just be fine with it

[flat river]

im not!

:(

[forest rose]

ive always paid for boosts for gearing my alts...cause the guilds ive been in are shit at gearing alts

[eternal sundial]

Bro ur 10 ilvl behind my wari

[forest rose]

and im lazy and have lots of gold

[flat river]

ok maybe a little bit but I DON'T PAY I JUST USE MY OWN KEYS >:(

[forest rose]

my rule is this

[flat river]

go ahead

[forest rose]

ill only buy boosts for my alts for content ive done on my main without being boosted

[flat river]

this is my main

all my gear is heroic lvl btw except the belt

[past pivot]

Is that an addon that shows all the enchants and gems?

[eternal sundial]

I coerce friends into getting my rats 20s

[forest rose]

because if you buy boosts for content you never did then it really does rob you of the feeling of a job well done

[eternal sundial]

And i do the same as a trade

[flat river]

yes

[forest rose]

at least for me

[flat river]

and ilvl

[eternal sundial]

But rn i only have 2 chars so it's whatever

[past pivot]

name of it?

[forest rose]

but everyones different and i dont look down on people who buy boosts for content they havent done

everyone plays wow their own way after all

[unreal onyx]

we are freaking progging

[eternal sundial]

300

[unreal onyx]

yup

[coarse nest]

Much much easier once nerfs come in

[flat river]

sui, but it also does some stuff different to your UI like making it darkmode, moving the group finder eye to the top, adding a ping/fps bar, etc

[past pivot]

ty

[flat river]

also changes font but u can turn that all off in settings

[coarse nest]

is this from wcl?

[unreal onyx]

yes

[flat river]

so anyone wanna join my key or

EU

[eternal sundial]

Lying in

[unreal onyx]

progging tindral

[coarse nest]

Still dont have my 6month sub mount

[hasty path]

skill issue

[flat river]

i had a year sub last january right

for the mounts

i opened 2 days ago and got the 6 months mounts

[coarse nest]

I've had year sub since the day they offered it

[flat river]

the new ones

XD

[coarse nest]

and it is recurring

[flat river]

real

i swear the funniest name is Bob

[hasty path]

brother

[lean heart]

if i am 1st feathers group on tindral when should i pop my cds

[hasty path]

I saw someone with the real, genuine last name "Coomer" last week

[flat river]

wtf

[hasty path]

yea

i lost my shit

[coarse nest]

yikes

[flat river]

millenial names moment

[fringe flame]

check your battle.net launcher and look for a "gift box" looking thing or something on the upper part of the window

[coarse nest]

Ye

even submitted a ticket

they said im eligable just have to wait they roll them out in waves

[fringe flame]

what's the EU equivalent to Bob?

[flat river]

i got it as soon as it was released

[flat river]

depends on country

england its Dave

[fringe flame]

I said EU.

[flat river]

wdym

[fringe flame]

wdymwdym?

[flat river]

nuh uh

[molten relic]

show us the stats

or bust

[meager gyro]

fxk ead, etc 😡 stop teasing me with that legendary omg

[ebon chasm]

Whats NA vote looking like now? EU has massively swung to S2

[dreamy trellis]

overall s2 is ahead 1k votes

[unreal onyx]

*manipulated to S2

[ebon chasm]

Are we into the last 24 hrs of vote now?

[unreal onyx]

yes

[hazy flower]

Anyone know why my logs for dungeon isnt logging right?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CqmQ2ZT6RbLvVK9D shows uyp like that instead of showiung the dungeon as a selectable and giving a parse

[chilly fractal]

EU is trying to steal the election

[echo mason]

Is there a usable SMF build atm? Not talking top tier, just usable

Like Heroic raiding max and 20 key max

[hazy flower]

I mean we're already pathing that way so i'd imagine there is

[hazy flower]

Just need figure out which 2 talent points can be dropped from current build to take smf

[buoyant salmon]

yes

but its objectively worse, but assuming you dont care just as phantom said, drop 2 talent points for the smf talents

[coarse nest]

you could sim it to be certain in ST

[clever escarp]

no u but s3

[coarse nest]

but probably cshb and bb for smf talents

[oblique trail]

The standard builds but remove Ashen + Massacre for SMF + Frenzied Assault. For AoE you remove the Execute talents and 1 Vicious Contempt and Bloodcraze

[coarse nest]

others blood craze and viscios contempt

only real options

SMF is just bad

should really get 2hs

Follow what ban is saying, I havent simmed smf at all

[hazy flower]

Really wish bliz would make SMF a built in passive and not a damn talent choice. I like duel wielding 1handers too

[coarse nest]

so ban prob knows better

[pliant lantern]

Just make 2 handers transmogable to 1 handers

This has been asked for for years

[hazy flower]

or that yeah honestly

i just like the "look" of 1handers over 2 big 2handers on my back sometimes

[buoyant salmon]

they havent done it bc of slippery slope things

but imo they should do it

[hazy flower]

I mean just make it a thing for fury warrior only?

[coarse nest]

idk why they dont just let us free for all with Tmog

[hazy flower]

i know they're able to do stuff like that

[pliant lantern]

Same, only restrictions should be tier sets and legendery weapons

Everything else is just fair game

[hazy flower]

Honestly, I'd be happy with just adding dyes. The mogs I could create with the ability to change te color of pieces would be phenomenal

[hasty path]

"pvp"

(theres literally zero reason but thats the reason they have given before)

[hazy flower]

its such a dumb reason to cus prob bout 99.9% of pvper's look at tooltip or health bar color b4 the armor theyre wearing

[hasty path]

absolutely

it's a complete nonsense reason

[wanton mirage]

they won't sabotage their ability to release recolor of anythings for $ or tinders

[hasty path]

frankly i think dyes is a lot more to ask for than unlocked armor restrictions

[hazy flower]

Its just so dumb cause literally EVERY OTHER mmo has dyes

[hasty path]

yeah but they were designed with dyes in mind and they'd have to go back to literally every single armor that has ever come out in the game

and make them all work with dyes

[hazy flower]

true

[hasty path]

its so much more reasonable ot ask for unrestricted armor type

[paper ivy]

guys how can i remove my guild on wowprogress and raider io

i left the guild but raiderio and wowprogress still show me as a guildmember

[young swan]

just have to wait for them to update

shouldnt take long, think you can resync ur battle.net too

[paper ivy]

ok thanks

ill do that

[lament hamlet]

bros i am so tired

im almost done the first 3 steps for fyralath

[pliant lantern]

I was up till 6am the morning after the night I got it doing Superbloom

Hang in there

[lavish haven]

i wish i could complain about the same thing you guys do

[wanton mirage]

I can't wait to complain about how I'm so tired, how it is so expansive, how it took so long when I get a leggo.

[unreal onyx]

I will still complain about it doing not enough dmg

[lavish haven]

yea just imagine xd

[unreal onyx]

(i have it)

[wanton mirage]

this too

[lament hamlet]

getting it to drop is the easy part

after that its like the 12 labors of hercules

[lavish haven]

me hoping it will drop before fated

[unreal onyx]

just loot it

[paper ivy]

a question regarding mythic raid. is it possible to start at a specefic boss if you have already killed the rest of them before?

after a reset

[unreal onyx]

you don't even have to loot the boss, they even straight give it in your inv

[unreal onyx]

yes

[olive wraith]

have to start on the last saved boss right?

[paper ivy]

i mean after a reset

[unreal onyx]

either that or you start all over again

[olive wraith]

ya so you cant start on igira if you killed volc/council

[unreal onyx]

so it's 0/9 or x/9 with the last boss you didn't kill still alive

[olive wraith]

for example

[paper ivy]

lemme put it this way, lets say a guild is 6/9M and they are progressing Smolderon, can they directlyy start pulling smolderon after a reset without killing the rest of bosses

or do they have to do first 2 and then smolderon

[olive wraith]

if you didnt kill smold

yes

[unreal onyx]

you can keep proggin smoldy

or you have to kill all bosses before him again, not just gnarl and igira iirc

[oblique trail]

Yes you extend the lockout, by going to the raid tab, raid info, then extend raid lock

[unreal onyx]

since smoldy is the boss after skip

[paper ivy]

ah ok thanks

[frosty scroll]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/702621025048854599/1065702526818729984/gromnakbubble.gif

[heavy sparrow]

You know the spear talent that increases the rage gen and initial damage? What if it was haste instead?

So basically spear increases crit and haste for the duration

The problem is, the rage is essentially useless, we simply do not need more rage on fury

Especially burst rage

So that only leaves 50% damage on the instant damage part, which is not good enough

[full viper]

okay am gonna lock in my votes now

[wanton mirage]

go S1

[full viper]

between S2 and S3 for me

[wanton mirage]

3-2=1

[heavy sparrow]

Honestly, i like the idea of s1 the best, but it's simply not good enough

I like a set that's focused on execute, but execute either doesn't do enough at the moment, the crit buff was essentially useless with how much crit exe already has etc

[dense elbow]

Dont worry about balance when voteing

it would in theory all be equal, as they would retune it

[heavy sparrow]

Yea i still voted s1, but it's not gonna happen

[dense elbow]

ye, it wont

[heavy sparrow]

The second best for me is s2

[dense elbow]

not even with my 40 votes for it

[barren dagger]

do we have any idea what s4 dungeons will be?

[heavy sparrow]

I just don't want s3

I would like s3 much more if the cdr was only on the empowered thirsts and significantly stronger

[wanton mirage]

What I want with that side of capstone is to give us immunity while standing on it.

[dense elbow]

now this how ya vote

[heavy sparrow]

Immunity to what?

[wanton mirage]

everything

[heavy sparrow]

The problem is that every capstone for warr is about damage, and then you have something that's an immunity, it's just a bit weird

[olive wraith]

DF dungeons

[dapper goblet]

vote season 2

[olive wraith]

In theory. I seriously doubt the tuning will solve the shortcomings for any set

[dense elbow]

yeyeye

details

smetails

[wanton mirage]

rumbling earth is arguably not about dmg

[dense elbow]

Anyhow, if you plan to do only 1 vote at this point, dont bother

go 100 votes, or go home

[heavy sparrow]

Just vote s2, s1 is not gonna win, the gap is way too large, even if you like the set idea

[dense elbow]

I wouldnt, if the duplicate votes get deleted, s1 might get up there fast

[heavy sparrow]

Idea, be a billionaire, buy 10 million wow accounts, and vote on each one

[dense elbow]

you can already make a million characters

you dont need accounts

[heavy sparrow]

Wait, the vote is on each character? Not account?

[dense elbow]

yepyep

[heavy sparrow]

Lol

[dense elbow]

why do you think we are seeing huge boom of votes?

A lot of ppl, just making a couple or 10 level 10 chars, to vote

(or using their army of alts)

[pallid cipher]

wait WHAT?!

[dense elbow]

S2 just growing and growing, by the seccond

delicious

[dreamy trellis]

@dense elbow werent you arguing for s3 in the forums last monday ?

[dense elbow]

I have voted for s3

Sadly my vote was not enough to tip the tide

[dapper goblet]

bless eu

saving us from our NA stupidity

[dreamy trellis]

true

[dense elbow]

NA will wake up, they will get on their alts, and vote s3

believe

[noble elm]

Leave it to blizzard to take the cheapest way out and still manage to scuff it up by not doing voting right

[pallid cipher]

why are we voting for s2 though? I honestly cant remember if I enjoyed it more than what we have now. living in a newborn baby bubble atm

[dreamy trellis]

at the end we get a switch to play both sets

[dense elbow]

We enjoy what we enjoy

simple as

[pallid cipher]

fair enough

I enjoy both so, all good

[dense elbow]

it is a win/win/win; s3 was good, s2 was good, and s1 would be hillarious for the meme effect

either way, we win

[burnt stone]

Did T30 win?

[dense elbow]

21 hours

[olive wraith]

Vote still ongoing

[dense elbow]

and the botters are ramping up

[stuck bison]

big agree. only if s1 2nd bonus is like %25crit chance + %x crit damage execute or something. in the and warrior is warrior

[hard widget]

I havent been able to vote still :(\

[olive wraith]

You can’t vote?

[hard widget]

Error every time

[dense elbow]

Aww chucks, well dont forget to vote with all your alts

[flat river]

guys quick question

[olive wraith]

Are you selecting the right region

[dense elbow]

change character and try again?

[olive wraith]

That’s weird

[cunning igloo]

Sorta proud of this overall, it was BRH +25 with aug voker but still my highest overall. I'm sure some of you guys blast me out of the water but still proud of how far ive come this tier

[dense elbow]

Good job mate

ya did big dam

[dense elbow]

change char, also, check region EU/NA in the url

[hard widget]

Its my main char, eu

[dense elbow]

jump to an alt

[dapper goblet]

shadowbanned..

[dense elbow]

click your portrait, choose another character

[cunning igloo]

I am getting the same thing, havent been able to vote since the start

[dense elbow]

should hopefully fix it

[hard widget]

Same on every char

[flat river]

is sending 1-2 messages (ads) every 30 seconds on trade chat to make my post appear first (not double posting only posting once and again when my post is out of screen) considdered spamming? 75% of my server thinks so for some reason lol

[dense elbow]

Try to post in another thread

but sounds like you got banned

[flat river]

i didnt

[hard widget]

I never posted anything xd

[cunning igloo]

I thought I was getting that because I just got suspended right as the vote things came out for having a toon named "Purecocaine" but I geuss its a actual bug?

[flat river]

but crafters in my server are mad af

[dense elbow]

Blizz CM team saw your TV and did it preemptly

[hard widget]

But thats not my btag xd

[dense elbow]

the plot thickens

[flat river]

can i get some answers xD

[olive wraith]

Is your battle tag “blizzeatsdicks”

[dense elbow]

nop

[flat river]

nop to the question or to me getting answers

lol

[dense elbow]

yes

[olive wraith]

Spamming is subjective

That sounds excessive to me

[cunning igloo]

thats not spamming, you should see Illidan Horde trade chat. People literally spam as much as they possibly can that the game allows

[burnt stone]

When looking only at rotation without considering DPS, I think T30 was the most ideal Fury.
Also, in M+, the T30 was excellent.
Fury mostly attacks only 5 targets, but with its short cooldown, ravager and reck offset these shortcomings

I hope I can use the T30 again if possible.

[dense elbow]

We will know in 21 hours <3

Better get your alts out lads, s2 gotten another 50 votes

[cunning igloo]

People also have multiple chars to spam servers with their professions and shit, its super annoying

Like when one char gets blocked from spamming they spam on the other level 1 account

They aren't in the money making business, they are in the empire business

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-empire-empire-business-cristi-gif-2807502907612680783

[flat river]

i posted a reddit post after talking to this guy who was shitting on me

now he told the entie server to shit on me

on the reddit xD

look at this lol

"10 min cd"

[sour wing]

charge your phone

[flat river]

real

[burnt stone]

What happens to the legendary weapons in Season 4?
Are you going to allow me to raise the item level of Season 3 legendary weapons?

[inland flame]

We don't know anything about S4 yet

[olive wraith]

I think that’s a common assumption

[inland flame]

Dungeon pool, dinar, nothing

[olive wraith]

People are referring to Dinar system

[olive wraith]

Dungeon pool is DF

[inland flame]

Did they confirm that somewhere?

[stuck bison]

dungeons will be DF no ? post says DF dungeons and raids will be revisited

[olive wraith]

Yes

It was a blue post

[inland flame]

Oh nvm I missed it. No surprise there tho.

[cunning igloo]

People on the WoW subreddit lurk in New posts and just say the dumbest shit to ever cross their mind. Half the people on that thread arent subbed to the game anymore so they are just ragers about their ex-wow-wife

[flat river]

lmaoooo

can i post the link here so u guys can support me

[olive wraith]

Idk 30 seconds sounds excessive to me

[flat river]

i post when my add is off-screen

also there is soft cap on sending messages

[cunning igloo]

It just depends on how often your server is being spammed. If your message is instantly gone from other people spamming then just throw it up again, might as well join them

[flat river]

ok lets say for example

i send my ad right

people send their adds and mine goes off the chat screen

sending same services (BS and JC)

is it wrong to resend?

[cunning igloo]

Yeah just join them in spamming, people getting mad over that have too much time

Most Horde servers are being spammed out the wazoo for crafters 24/7 so you have to spam to even find someone in the sea of them

[flat river]

he doesn't even get the meaning of spamming lol

spamming means sending same message alot of times in a row

[olive wraith]

Doesn’t have to be in a row

[cunning igloo]

I mean if you wanted to get big brain you could probably automate the message to some degree, make a macro and press the macro every 2 mins for ur stuff

[olive wraith]

It’s a matter of frequency

[flat river]

sending my add when it's off the screen is not spamming though

im refreshing

[olive wraith]

To you it’s not

[chilly fractal]

“send the same message indiscriminately to (large numbers of recipients) on the internet.”

[flat river]

exacly

[olive wraith]

To them it’s spamming

[fringe flame]

double post that shit every time you can

[chilly fractal]

That’s the definition of spam… what you said is not the definition of spam

[fringe flame]

fuck em

[cunning igloo]

ya fuck em

i agree

spam

[flat river]

xD

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/196ssbu/can_someone_explain_to_this_guy_that_what_im/

[cunning igloo]

mans trying to make some moolah over here getting harassed

[full viper]

Is it factually right to say s2 is more forgiving on the wrists? You don’t spam blood thirst so often

[flat river]

here is the link if u want to support me

comment saying im right

[olive wraith]

You spam rb

They’re both the same amount of strain if you don’t use comfortable keybinds

[chilly fractal]

Are your wrists made of glass?

[cunning igloo]

s3 is definitely more noob friendly with more bloodthirsts, S2 you can fk up by pressing bloodthirst too early / not at the right time

[near crypt]

Not warrior

[olive wraith]

He’s not talking about rotation lol

[cunning igloo]

oh I totally misunderstood his message my bad lol

Id say s3 is more forgiving on wrists because u dont build as much haste

s2 is rb spam until your hands fall off

[olive wraith]

Also s3 is a little less easy than s2 rotationaly

[chilly fractal]

Huh?

[cunning igloo]

I disagree, S3 is super noob friendly

compared to s2

[olive wraith]

You have more cooldowns(short ones) to juggle

In s3

[full viper]

S2 is less spammy

[olive wraith]

Wdym

[chilly fractal]

Huh?

[full viper]

I feel like in terms of APM, fury s2 was easier on the wrists / forearms

[olive wraith]

It all depends on your keybinds

Our apm barely changed

[full viper]

You hit blood thirst once it builds up to a high crit chance.

Now you pretty much spam

[olive wraith]

S2 you spam rb

[fringe flame]

you spam rb

[olive wraith]

It’s the same concept

[chilly fractal]

Do you have Bloodthirst bound to a hard to hit button or something?

[north edge]

you can use the macro

for s3

makes things very easy

i bound the BT/Rampage botton to scroll wheel

so my rotation is to scroll down and press the odd whirlwind/slam every now and then

and on ST fights while reck is active, its just full on scrolling

[olive wraith]

You don’t necessarily want to Ramp right at 80 rage

[north edge]

all the macro does is use rampage and prioritises Bloodbath

while recklessness is up its basically perfect

always doing Reck/BB/Reck/BB/Reck/BB

[summer quail]

you can use the macro, tho i would advise against it

[olive wraith]

You still want separate keybinds

Which doesn’t solve his wrist issue

[north edge]

i have like a apm of 20

with this setup

have been doing it ever since carpel tunnel

it really helps

[olive wraith]

You only cast 20 times a minute?

[north edge]

yeah the scroll wheel

[chilly fractal]

Only time I every felt any discomfort playing this game with my wrists/fingers was playing Gladiator Warrior early WoD

[north edge]

on the macro

doesnt really count

since its just spinning

with those logitech mouses that scroll forever

[olive wraith]

It’s still an action lol even if it’s a macro that has more than one ability

[cunning igloo]

Trying out Arms in pvp has so many buttons, im struggling with it right now but its more of a brain thing than wrist thing

[north edge]

what im meant to say is, im pressing 20 buttons a minute

[full viper]

I’m using the macro

[north edge]

since most of my rotation is on the scroll wheel macro

[full viper]

But it’s not bound to mouse wheel

[fringe flame]

you ever play Focused Rage in Legion?

[north edge]

and i just have to watch WW stacks

[full viper]

I will try

Above 60apm I feel tired

[olive wraith]

I think you just need to find better positions for your keybinds

Cause you shouldn’t feel more stain playing s2

[fringe flame]

that reminds me to order one of those logitech MX master 3s mice. those things are nice

[full viper]

I use buttons 1 to 9 only

[north edge]

G502 Hero

[chilly fractal]

That was an Arms thing yea? Not much but I’m sure I did at least a couple times

[olive wraith]

Maybe start using modifiers or letters

Shift+# etc

[north edge]

g502 hero imo is the best mmo mouse designed

so many useful buttons easy to reach

[fringe flame]

I mainly use 1-6 with shift+1-6. oh and F/shift+f.

Some dudes in my guild have everything bound to their mice with 12 buttons

[full viper]

Standard layout since beginning of wow for me so I am never confused

[north edge]

the good thing about using the macro with the scroll wheel is, if rampage or BB arent up (CD or no rage), the button that you actually press (Slam/Execute/Bloodthirst/Whirlwind) will just go thorugh as normal

[north edge]

so im defnitenly voting s3 to take advantage of having no carpel tunnel

[heavy sparrow]

Carpal tunnel is just weakness

[olive wraith]

You would sometimes hold rav

[flat river]

REAL

[olive wraith]

That argument makes no sense

[fringe flame]

doesn't matter, EU cheated

[tardy lark]

did we win

[north edge]

s2 is winning isnt it

[olive wraith]

Ye

[north edge]

kinda dumb, isnt our s3 set like miles better % wise

[edgy widget]

they were both manipulated pretty heavily

[north edge]

we're gonna be in the dumps next season

[olive wraith]

Ya s3 is ahead in st and slightly behind in mt

[dark elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1194314544399532093/whydiddothis.gif?ex=65afe718&is=659d7218&hm=e1e364a33427115b7c64c6f0f098bfe453e28c8d72a9b06a9d260e46bfbde88b&

[full viper]

is there a way to check APM between S2 and S3 for Fury?

[edgy widget]

sure there is

[north edge]

my empowered BTs crit for like 500k during execute phase

feels so satisfying

[full viper]

there's a website called warcraftlords or something

which records right

[edgy widget]

it's about 75/72, because S2 likes haste a bit more than S3

[tardy lark]

can just check simulationcraft

[edgy widget]

with the same amount of haste, it's exactly the same though

[full viper]

okay. thanks Arch

[molten relic]

I didn’t play s2 but playing AM ravager doesn’t sound fun

[north edge]

why was s3 behind in mt?

because ravager?

[edgy widget]

YMMV based on the gearing, the T31 profile is on the low end of haste, so it might be a bit lower, maybe closer to 70

[olive wraith]

Ya and s3 tier doesn’t cleave

[edgy widget]

but it really just comes down to how much haste you have

[olive wraith]

It’s not behind by that much though

[north edge]

but the reduced cd on Odyns leads to cleaved BBs

[olive wraith]

Clarify?

[north edge]

and cleaved Odyns bleeds right

[tardy lark]

they heavily gated the buffed BT we get when cleaved

gated is not the right word

[edgy widget]

last I checked, S3 is behind S2 by like 3% in MT vs 8 targets - S2 may burst higher, but you get OF back up much quicker than Ravager

[flat river]

ravager BiS

and onslaught

[fringe flame]

onslaught is dumb

[flat river]

no u

[north edge]

bring back the old bladestorm

[tardy lark]

OS just makes mastery have 100% value

[north edge]

fury bladestorm was the shit

[edgy widget]

ofc YMMV in an actual pull, S2 does good burst damage, but its also a lot harder to actually hit every target with Ravager, as compared to OF which just hits... everything

[edgy widget]

Onslaught has nothing to do with that, Mastery is pretty much giga value for all versions of Fury

[olive wraith]

How so

[tardy lark]

perma enrage uptime

[olive wraith]

We have same enrage uptime this tier

[full viper]

in the hunter channel, there are numbers to help us to vote

is there official numbers

[edgy widget]

S3 has that too... lol

[tardy lark]

you'll have gaps in s3 version somewhat

[full viper]

for S1, S2, S3

which one deals more damage

etc

[olive wraith]

Literally same enrage uptime lol

[deep sapphire]

I have perma enrage uptime in S3?

[tardy lark]

heavily doubt that

[olive wraith]

Both seasons were like 90% +

[edgy widget]

it's got a 98% uptime lmao

what

[tardy lark]

Gaps

[olive wraith]

I’m talking m+

[edgy widget]

that's cause of Fyr'alath

you noob

[molten relic]

Enrage uptime issues? X d

[flat river]

lol

first time i've seen Archimtiros say someone is a noob

[tardy lark]

no one talked about issues

[flat river]

bro got roasted

[north edge]

why does fyralath give you enrage?

what

what am i missing

[molten relic]

Yes

When u use it

[tardy lark]

Nah, i dont take it too personally from someone washed

[edgy widget]

it doesn't, you're not enraged while using it

[molten relic]

U get enraged

[fringe flame]

fury warriors too zugbrained to even know how their spec works

[edgy widget]

if you wanna talk about issues, bring up real issues, dont' make up bullshit

[molten relic]

With the rage of fyralath

[tardy lark]

something about rally n shit i guess

[edgy widget]

"enrage uptime problems" with Season 3 is the dumbest shit I've heard all day (which is impressive after what was going around earlier today)

[tardy lark]

no one said problems

[edgy widget]

also has nothing to do with S2 or S3 so.... what's your point?

[tardy lark]

someone did say gaps

[north edge]

i dont even bother tracking enrage

in s3

[molten relic]

I do wish s3 bbs cleaved

[edgy widget]

there are no gaps in S3 enrage uptime

[north edge]

i just assume its up

[molten relic]

At least half or something

[flat river]

real

[edgy widget]

you're spouting nonsense lol

[tardy lark]

surething mate

[flat river]

Aagaard boutta get banned

[north edge]

maybe the buff the ycould give fuyr

[flat river]

u never fight the big boss

[edgy widget]

unirionically does sound like he's fishing to get moderated

[north edge]

is to make the damage cleave

[cunning igloo]

bro arguing with the wowhead guide writers is not the play

smh

[flat river]

XD

[edgy widget]

just making nonsensical controversial comments, then just talk shit when you're pointed out as wrong

[olive wraith]

I think it’s fine to disagree/argur

Just use facts lol

[edgy widget]

its' fine to disagree, it's not fine to make shit up

and then get combative when the obvious falsehood is corrected

[cunning igloo]

yeah arguing is fine if you can back it up with actual shit

arguing nothing is a waste of time

[coarse nest]

Arch writes the guides, Aagaard competes for rank 1s on mythic

stating theres gaps is not false

but arch is correct

that it is irrelovant

[olive wraith]

Common thing people say that just isn’t true is “s3 is way slower.”

[cunning igloo]

s3 is slower but not much slower, we just dont run as much haste now for the build so thats what makes it "slower" as people say

[olive wraith]

Saying that’s a reason to vote s2 is weird to me

[pliant lantern]

This spec vote has proved to me that the vast majority of people don’t understand how their class works and are totally incapable of reasoned thought

[edgy widget]

there aren't gaps lol

[cunning igloo]

I voted s2 because I like anger management, thats about it

[olive wraith]

They say they’re doing the rotation perfectly and run in to dead gcd every 20 seconds

[edgy widget]

and no offense, but I have enough rank ones over my time playing this game that I don't need to compete with anyone, tyvm

[olive wraith]

Everyone is entitled to preferred playstyle. Respect

[fringe flame]

tbf, there's a few specs like that. Look at BM hunters voting for s3 over s2(almost perma beastial wrath) because "yay more pets!"

[edgy widget]

I've been playing this game at various high levels for nearly 20 years, I don't need to prove myself to anyone - I grew tired of the parse chasing several expansions ago, and there's a reason I don't raid in top 20 anymore

[olive wraith]

Ya so much this

[edgy widget]

that shit is exhausting

[cunning igloo]

Just as long as its not season 1 im happy, that set is giga boring

[olive wraith]

S1 is the same as s2

[clever escarp]

nah

[olive wraith]

S1 actually has more interaction actually

[edgy widget]

S3 enrage uptime, nice gaps

The only way it goes lower is if you're using Fyr'alath because obviously you're not enraged during it

[tardy lark]

sim is everything

[edgy widget]

which is a non issue since it doesn't benefit anyway

[tardy lark]

real world scenarios is moot

[cunning igloo]

that guy procced Archimtiros to go super saiyan lol

[olive wraith]

Compare it to s2 then

[lavish beacon]

[edgy widget]

ok show some logs that have S3 at an arbitrarily low enrage uptime

back your shit up kid

[violet condor]

i wish s1 would win they said they were gonna balance the tier sets to be even in power and i think an execute based tier set that isnt compeltely terriblr would be really cool

[dire vigil]

TLDR, we getting S2 or S3?

[violet condor]

s2

[dire vigil]

Fine

[violet condor]

(hopefully)

[dire vigil]

Life goes on

[olive wraith]

Vote is still going

[robust basin]

For US or EU

[olive wraith]

But ya s2 looks like it’s gonna win

Overall

[violet condor]

EU s2 is crushing s3 US s3 is barely winning

[cunning igloo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo2eBYNS-W4&t=9s

emergency critcake vote video

[dire vigil]

It’s not regional-specific though right?

[flat river]

lol

[dire vigil]

Everyone getting the same thing?

[flat river]

yes

[cunning igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-go-to-the-polls-hillary-clinton-vote-election-day-gif-12834660

[edgy widget]

lol LARODAR?

[olive wraith]

It would be weird to lock sets by region

[clever belfry]

wallife just noob???

[edgy widget]

no shit you have gaps on Larodar when the fuckin boss runs away from you

[tardy lark]

agreed

[edgy widget]

like hello

what does that have to do with S2/S3?

[dire vigil]

Figured, that would be weird. S2 will be fun with Ravager. We’ll have mass AOE cooldowns to use regularly

[violet condor]

https://tenor.com/view/general-grievous-gif-13718534390039256298

[edgy widget]

you really think playing S2 on Larodar wouldn't have the same gaps?

[cunning igloo]

bro im dying laughing this shit is the funniest ive read all week

[clever belfry]

Tenderizer would cover

[dire vigil]

But I did like the change to annihilator

[clever belfry]

that's what's up

[edgy widget]

you cannot be that stupid

[tardy lark]

unless you pool for him returning, OS fixes that

[clever belfry]

😎

[edgy widget]

you should pool for him returning, it's easy

[tardy lark]

then you'll have gaps beforehand

[edgy widget]

no you won't

[flat river]

real

[edgy widget]

unless you're bad lol

[violet condor]

Archimtiros what tier set do u like 1 2 or 3?

[tardy lark]

nah fam lol

[edgy widget]

you just don't hit rampage before he leaves

[flat river]

season 3

[edgy widget]

that doesn't cost you uptime, you're fucking batty

[flat river]

he says in pins

[robust basin]

Season 2 better win

[olive wraith]

OF is shorter than rav

[flat river]

insha2allah my brother

[chilly fractal]

S2 sucks

[clever belfry]

[tardy lark]

guess i am batty 🤷‍♀️ you got me

[violet condor]

^

[edgy widget]

here's volcoross, a fight where the boss doesn't run away from you

random log without fyr'alath

[clever belfry]

u can just popcorn instead of posting the ^....

[chilly fractal]

All you people wanting S2 to win just don’t like Windfury

[robust basin]

^

[coarse nest]

I know my eyes are aging but im fairly confident that doesnt say 100%

[edgy widget]

honest to god the bullshit some of you people come up with in order to push an agenda is downright baffling

[edgy widget]

nobody ever said 100%, you can't really get 100% on a buff that doesn't start till after combat begins

[clever escarp]

s3 gameplay is boring 2 button rotation not fun atleast for me liked s2 way more

[violet condor]

^

[tardy lark]

98% would be gaps

id argue

[robust basin]

I miss raging blow, slam and WW is boring as shit

[edgy widget]

I don't think you know what gaps mean

[tardy lark]

especially on a pure ST fight

[edgy widget]

and S2 has the same

[tardy lark]

and i dont think you do

[edgy widget]

you're just being argumentattive

[tardy lark]

we are prolly not gonna agree

[dapper goblet]

🫡

[olive wraith]

S2 is also two buttons

[violet condor]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-eating-gif-26433511

[chilly fractal]

Nothing about having a 98% chance to Crit with bloodthirst and it not critting is ever fun

[dapper goblet]

season 3 has a macro that plays the spec for you

therefor worse than season 2

[dark elbow]

can the micro gaps in enrage time cause damage loss if you rampage without being enraged?

[violet condor]

?

[edgy widget]

no, because you're being argumentative over bullshit - you do this all the time. You make some mountain out of a molehill and try to lord it over

enrage uptime as S3 is the most complete non issue the spec could ever have

[olive wraith]

Ramp enrages before doing damage

[edgy widget]

you're either a troll or a moron, either way I'm done with it

[dire vigil]

I never rampage because that’s easy mode.

Play without enrage like a real gamer

[violet condor]

do you mean arms?

[dark elbow]

Ahh i didnt know, used to Onslauht before ramp in S2 cause of it haha

[dire vigil]

I play fury with a one hander and shield

[inland flame]

I actually have /cancelaura Enrage macros on all my buttons. Enrage is a crutch.

Full mastery setup btw.

[chilly fractal]

Legend

[terse ether]

3*
You can execute.. S3 execute is worse than WW 😆

Ww at least you use it for buff

[olive wraith]

For st?

[violet condor]

this was me today

[north edge]

got my 2nd fyralath today

lul

[edgy widget]

?

[clever belfry]

this is a kazzara, arguably less easy uptime than volc
and if you look at it from the angle of how much time u spent UNenraged its

0.62% vs 1.36%

Which is twice as much as u can tell

[edgy widget]

Worse than WW?

[olive wraith]

S3 also has slam

[chilly fractal]

Just more people making shit up

[violet condor]

WW as in wind walker?

[fringe flame]

You hit execute if you don't have enough rage for Rampage and Bloodbath/thirst is on CD.

[clever escarp]

yea and it alone makes it inferior to s2 /s

[violet condor]

oh whirlwind

[olive wraith]

What are you talking about lol

[terse ether]

For m+ yes.

If I have reck procs is mostly ramp + bb

[edgy widget]

depending on which log you took it from, no it's not necessarily less uptime - top logs generally don't deal with mechanics

[olive wraith]

S2 has reck uptime and using 2 buttons more than s3 does

[stuck bison]

s2 has OS it is a short cd, bt, rb, rampage, execute. i love them all. i am not doing bb>rampage over and over when i am in cds. OS on cd, BT when high crit chance. exe take prio etc. was good was fun

[olive wraith]

Your argument isn’t logical

[edgy widget]

but again the comment was not that S2 doesn't have marginally higher (in a way that's not at all practical), it was that S2 gets more value from mastery because S3 doesn't get perma enrage uptime, which is just asinine

And then the citation was enrage uptime "gaps" and the "evidence" was Larodar of all fights lol

[terse ether]

Isn't execute just a filler and low prio unless Juggernaut is talented?

[edgy widget]

it was an ill-founded hypothesis and a bullshit argument

[clever belfry]

and then diff examples on more or less same uptime bosses 🤷‍♂️

[edgy widget]

even then it's better than WW by a wide margin

[clever belfry]

bad faith on both sides idc

[edgy widget]

what do you mean diff examples?

[clever belfry]

Literally kazzara vs volc

are u afk

[edgy widget]

I didn't bring up kazzara?

[clever belfry]

im going to bed gn

[edgy widget]

the fuck is wrong with you lol

[olive wraith]

Both seasons have same amount of rotational buttons

[edgy widget]

are you seriously trying to tell me that there's any practical impact on the value of mastery over the difference between 98.6 and 99% enrage uptime?

[stuck bison]

yeah. s3 is just dont have ravager. OS -->OF. slam-->rb.

[edgy widget]

aside from the fact that S2 doesn't even value mastery the highest lol

[olive wraith]

Of is ravager

We use ww in st

[stuck bison]

doenst matter one button less

[terse ether]

I want annihilator with ravager, no of 😆

[dapper goblet]

season 3 has a macro that plays the spec for you

[edgy widget]

you could spec that if you really wanted to

[terse ether]

Doesn't work with tier

S2 you can make it work

[stuck bison]

nah people wont play underperforming builds in keys or raid

[terse ether]

S2 tier

[edgy widget]

why doesn't it?

The tier doesn't force you into Annihilator

[terse ether]

Because s3 tier buffs OF

[edgy widget]

you could easily spec AM/Rav/OF and get giga AoE... just without much ST

[terse ether]

OF + Bladestorm 🤣

[frigid saddle]

Hey guys, I have a 476 Fury and Enhance, I'm deciding between which one I'm going to gear and play for mythic raid instead of my Unholy DK. I enjoy them both equally, what class do you folks think has more upside for Mythic raiding?

[stuck bison]

yeah but people wont play underperforming builds in high keys. what is even point of playing that if you lose huge single target damage

it would be trolling

same as playing annilator in s2 set

[edgy widget]

depends if your raid needs Shout or Windfury lol

[fringe flame]

Enhancement, so you can bring Windfury

[terse ether]

Enhance has a nice gameplay, quite complex as well

[frigid saddle]

We don't currently have a warrior or enhance, hence why I get to decide first and then we fill the other role.

[terse ether]

But fury is more manly 😆

[frigid saddle]

I genuinely enjoy both, much more than my 486 unholy at least

[edgy widget]

I pointed it out because it is analogous to playing Annihilator in S2

[drowsy trench]

Point is, season 3 tier blows ass and is boring to play, S2 isn't all that interesting but is miles more enjoyable than short 10 sec burst windows with nothing as a follow up

[sullen dove]

you are entitled to that personal opinion

[edgy widget]

that's pretty subjective, there are just as many people who've argued they enjoy S3 and don't like S2

[robust basin]

If you want to be brain dead sweaty chads like us. Go fury.

If you wanna be a loser. Go shaman

[edgy widget]

the funny thing to me is that the majority of people arguing for S2 don't actually care about the bonus, just AM/Rav

[drowsy trench]

Let's hope that they all lose on the vote then 🙂

[chilly fractal]

I hated S2 ever since the first time I had 98% chance to Crit with bloodthirst and it didn’t Crit

[edgy widget]

lmao

[sullen dove]

on god the actual set is dogshit saying otherwise is nuts

its just am rav

[frigid saddle]

I had a look at fyrakk logs and there's a few fury warriors logging rather well

Less than Enhance, but more than unholy lol

I was told that Fury scales better than Enhance

[edgy widget]

Eh

[sullen dove]

scaling

[chilly fractal]

I wouldn’t pay too much attention to things like this

Does your guild have any rogues?

[muted star]

Fury scales with gear

[static spade]

Season 1 vote everyone please. I Want to play AM in peace