#fury

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barren stone
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its so funny how NA and EU ppl have a totaly diff few on what to play

neat gazelle
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NA mog vote

flat river
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fuck

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i loved season 1 mog

dry talon
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2 was allright

hollow elk
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wanted s1 for the pvp mog i missed out on lol

flat river
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i like how 12% voted season 3 keks

open arrow
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Yes

flat river
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real

final eagle
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They should put 2 set + 4set

open arrow
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RWF region winner = votes count x2

dry talon
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looks like prot got s3 for both eu and na

flat river
dry talon
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so not everything lost šŸ˜„

clever belfry
flat river
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lol

open arrow
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Yes?

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Is there something wrong there

flat river
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you mean race to region first then

clever belfry
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just type region first

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full stop

oblique trail
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The region of those who won the world first

flat river
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OH

open arrow
fleet sorrel
clever belfry
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go to bed vil

clever path
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god oh why

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whyyyy

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whyyyyyyyy

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why people vote season 2

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that mog is disgusting

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t-shirt chestpiece

clever belfry
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but like

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what is stopping u

clever path
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clap clap clap

clever belfry
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from getting the xmogs rn?

clever path
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but new color

eternal sundial
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did they even mention that

clever path
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no, but my brothers uncle friend of a fathers sister twice removed works at blizzard and vaguely said that

clever belfry
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so real

clever path
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But okay, season 2 isnt that bad, its too FF like though

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Glad we are not getting season 3 oven tho , thats fr

tepid isle
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how good is pip's trinket for us , looking at both raid and m+?

eternal sundial
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pretty okay ye

tepid isle
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Nice

hollow elk
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anyone knows whats the name of the gore-crusted butchers block. cant find it on my dmg done

clever belfry
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it doesnt do any damage by itself

hollow elk
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my bad i meant to say it dont show on my buff list

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i wanted to see the number of procs

clever belfry
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should be Butcher's Eye

hollow elk
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thx

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there it is

flat river
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just timed a +22 waycrest

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first time playing any keys above +20

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:DDDD

teal sable
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Is WA behind like a mili second or to resulting in 5-10 casts overall in a boss fight?

hollow elk
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grats

flat river
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30 more score for KSH

hollow elk
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i honestly just do mythic+ for gear but friends keep dragging me into 22+s kicking and screaming and it isnt that worse. its like one of em say "20s are a state of mind not gear ilvl"

flat river
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@clever path i have a +23 ataldazar, wanna run it oinly warriors xD

clever path
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23 kinda hardcore with no heal

flat river
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we can get a healer

clever path
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no

flat river
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i can downgrade to +22

clever path
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4 fury 1 tank

hollow elk
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bandages and pots

flat river
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real

hollow elk
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did we even get bandages this expac

flat river
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who wants to join EU +22 ataldazar

flat river
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@clever path how does +22 sound

hollow elk
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there is

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apparently. shadowlands heavy bandage better than tier 3 wildercloth lol

flat river
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4k hp keks

clever path
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rip first aid

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bring back first aid

flat river
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real

clever path
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why did they even remove it

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wtf

flat river
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they didnt?

hollow elk
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it used to be a secondary prof like cooking

clever path
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inb4 they should have removed fishing

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who even does that shit

flat river
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wait real

clever path
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in my 12 years of game i have never had fishing max level

flat river
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it's not in proffession trainer when i ask guardian in valdrakken

hollow elk
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why cook when corpses have food all the time

flat river
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LOL

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cause food stats

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make 3k a customer

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sometimes 5k

clever path
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noob archeology 1

hollow elk
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im probly a customer

flat river
hollow elk
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although

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lol

flat river
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if anyone here is in Sylvanas server im down to craft anything for u

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free of charge

hollow elk
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ngl i fell a sleep doing archeology

flat river
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name is Stronkmon-Sylvanas

flat river
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only one i did was the moose

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in legion

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so @clever path we going ataldazar or no?

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i will take a shower first so think about it

neat gazelle
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I wanna do it for the giant troll sword

clever path
worldly shard
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got tattered dreamleaf leggo quest

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is it rare?

flat river
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yo

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back

flat river
elfin vortex
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is there a guide on what spells you can spell reflect in raid?

sullen wagon
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Yall slackers, no archeology maxed

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wtf

sinful spoke
worldly shard
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so basically i should just use it when i get legendary

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to speed shit up

desert cairn
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trying to decide on embellishments for fury for M+ only. Is it just frostfire legs and allied bracers?

sullen dove
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if u got most of your gems

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also sf patch is still fine for a bit more st but whatever not as big a deal

desert cairn
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it's a newly geared char

sullen dove
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yea ff legs fine ig but more sus if u dont have 4set with all the other slots

desert cairn
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I have all 5 hc tier pieces. just trying to figure out what's best

upbeat sentinel
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What’s vote looking like on tier bonus

devout imp
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Hey warrior peeps! Im brand new to the spec really and have taken to single minded fury. Seems like that isnt the most ideal of things but it is what it is! Anyone have a usable M+ and Raid talent build for SMF with 4-set? Or is such a thing impossible xD Thanks! <3

coarse nest
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The best smf fury talent build is the standard M+ build on wow head

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also equip two 2hs

upbeat sentinel
devout imp
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LMAO

flat river
upbeat sentinel
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But na he is right Titans is better by a lot rn, and the fact that there’s a 2h str legendary makes it hard to like SMF

devout imp
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Thats fair, is there anything to use even regardless that SMF is comparably much worse or its just THAAAAT bad?

coarse nest
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If you insist on doing smf the only real option is to drop bloodcraze and 1pt in vicious comtempt (For M+)
Drop execute talents for raid build*

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its just bad you should get two 2hs asap

upbeat sentinel
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Oh wowhead has a tally

upbeat sentinel
devout imp
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thanks for the advice people

upbeat sentinel
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NA carrying S3 to victory

still ibex
still ibex
worldly shard
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interesting so i was rank20 with 2.65k io in season1

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in my realm

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kinda inflated rn

devout imp
upbeat sentinel
umbral ingot
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god bless them

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bless the s3 voters

dawn pivot
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so when S2 fury comes in, do I have to reroll all my gear I have now for S3?

umbral ingot
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time to take vacation

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until new expac

coarse nest
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stat allocation probably changing yeah

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but you have to farm ilvl anyway so it wont matter

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just follow robot

umbral ingot
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why is there such a difference between na and eu votes

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between s2 s3

dawn pivot
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s4 has new raid?

coarse nest
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No, recycled DF raids with "fated affixes"

dense elbow
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I hope you meant to say there are old raids with affixes

dawn pivot
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so its like testing season anyways?

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and we are the testers

still ibex
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Check Shadowlands last season

umbral ingot
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its just

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filler

dense elbow
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Q bit more messy season, just for fun

dawn pivot
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and when does s3 end?

dense elbow
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When s4 starts

coarse nest
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Yeah, its a for fun season that is short

barren dagger
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we probably have 2 months left of seeason 3

coarse nest
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just something to do until expansion drops

dense elbow
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Man, knowing I get legendary when season is already over, fbm danderson

coarse nest
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Dont have mine either

dense elbow
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Hopefully there is a s4 dinar upgrade token for it

coarse nest
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I assume they will do that yeah

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just like hunterbow in SL s4

dense elbow
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I don't want to go RNG upgrade token sadgers

limpid lark
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s2 or s3 winning so far?

dense elbow
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S3 with 500 or so votes. But on EU, S2 is getting 4 votes a hour, it will increase gradually

pliant lantern
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Something weird happened in the EU vote. They were neck and neck, only 1% between them, then all of a sudden S2 got about 2k unanswered votes

coarse nest
worldly shard
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worse than doing m+/raid

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literally feels like im injecting heroin and cant stop

flat river
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btw i think the reason s2 jumped so far ahead in one day is because people that voted season 1 realised it wont win

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so they mass voted season 2

teal coral
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any suggestions on what to craft first?

flat river
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wrists

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then shadowflame cloak

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then ring

teal coral
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wrists that big?

flat river
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BiS is allied wrists

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and shadowlflame cloak

teal coral
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alright, thanks!

dense elbow
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I think it more likely that 100 ppl noticed they could vote multiple times, than S1 gang betraying the cause

neat gazelle
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that’s my biggest recommendation because you get so many sparks at this point

teal coral
neat gazelle
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You used the piece you get from the fyrakk quest in neck? Oof

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High ilvl weapon is the biggest upgrade you can get

teal coral
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can craft one now tho

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have 60 crests

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or should i maybe wait and see what i get in vault šŸ¤”

neat gazelle
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What have you done for vault so far

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Did you do heroic?

teal coral
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done a couple of +18

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no shot i can get a heroic raid pug :/

full viper
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What you guys vote for ? Voted season 2 because don’t want to use slam ?

full viper
lean wasp
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did you guys check the transmog channel

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someone posted a really cool mog

upbeat sentinel
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We don’t use slam v much at all

flat river
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it's about not having RB

upbeat sentinel
flat river
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thats the issue

lean wasp
flat river
lean wasp
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i wanna mash my keyboard and do least damage on bosses

upbeat sentinel
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Odyns fury degeneracy > all

hoary flare
narrow niche
teal coral
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hmm what is the crafted 2h called?

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seems to be some to choose from

flat river
teal coral
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ty

flat river
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but dont

teal coral
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no?

flat river
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better craft others

narrow niche
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It's too exepensive

jade garden
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S3 fury feels so horrible, in no world should you have so little to press than you’re using whirlwind on single target

teal coral
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ok

upbeat sentinel
flat river
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WW cd

narrow niche
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You'll be better off crafting ring and neck, use drop optimizer !

flat river
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smh

upbeat sentinel
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So one from campaign one from 20

teal coral
woven kindle
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How do you guys sim damage for M+?

upbeat sentinel
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Since you’ll keep those

glad plover
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In EU at the moment there is around 10000 votes, 54% season 2

teal coral
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ait, starting with bracers than i guess xD

neat gazelle
past pivot
woven kindle
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Ok thx

hidden sinew
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did i miss something? is haste/mastery becoming ideal again looking at some of the top mythic+ warriors and they are running a decent bit more haste mastery thans vers.

narrow niche
upbeat sentinel
past pivot
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And if they have the leggo. And if they are doing m+

dark ice
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Any idea how to turn of stream preview when Im streaming in private call ? Friends can see my stream preview. I dont want that.

neat gazelle
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Do the campaign and do lfr and you have that big of a weapon

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That’s huge this late into a season

upbeat sentinel
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Ya sparks now are kinda whatever

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Like my only non-hero+ item is my chest and I’ll prob craft that Tuesday just because I can

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On Tuesday you’ll be able to craft either 6 pieces or 4 + a wep

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Degeneracy

glad plover
hidden sinew
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sparks are still cool if you have the gold to make crafted items.

upbeat sentinel
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Crazy they’ll allow such great gear catch-up mechanics, but profession catch-up is completely non-existent šŸ’€

hidden sinew
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i basically have to buy a wow token every season to make crafted gear

flat river
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when does the voting end

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tommorrow what time

glad plover
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not sure

hidden sinew
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personally i miss using ravager thats just me tho

neat gazelle
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I think around midnight in the US

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I heard like 8am Central European time

stiff barn
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I don't mind going bk to S2 bonus, just to change up the rotation again

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I do enjoy S3, but you need a bit of variety here and there

upbeat sentinel
upbeat sentinel
fossil hatch
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Hard to balance

upbeat sentinel
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Would bloat tf out of vaults but I do not care

stiff barn
upbeat sentinel
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Rn it’s just whoever has many RAF accounts gets their preferred tier

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I’m activating mine tonight

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Just make it S2 on EU servers and S3 on NA

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😼

hidden sinew
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or they could let us combine teir sets

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and experiement

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idk if theres and double 2 set that could out perform any 4 set this season tho

upbeat sentinel
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Not as if fated is a real fkn season anyway

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Might as well let us do stupid shit

hidden sinew
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right lol

stiff barn
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Sure, but some classes could end up with some op stuff

hidden sinew
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true

upbeat sentinel
flat river
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@clever path u done making gold?

hidden sinew
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that would only really be a problem in pvp

upbeat sentinel
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Disable the tiers in pvp

stiff barn
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And if you pug

hidden sinew
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true but my answer to pugging if you cant beat em join em

upbeat sentinel
hidden sinew
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i got to ksh by running my own keys

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yeah its hard cuz the rng on the key ur gonna get can be lack luster af

stiff barn
upbeat sentinel
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Unless you’re trying to pug like 25s and they stack the OP ones

hidden sinew
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yeah i dont even try to think about getting into 25's lol

stiff barn
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Ye

hidden sinew
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im not a dh or bm hunter

upbeat sentinel
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Unless your class is just actually trash

stiff barn
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Still , blizz would take that into consideration

upbeat sentinel
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Also pugging keys is just aids in general

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Dudes in 485 ilvl doing 80k dps because god why

stiff barn
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It is , but that does make up a large population of players

hidden sinew
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i just hope blizz doesnt try to change all the good shit going into tww

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like they have in the past

upbeat sentinel
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We invited a fury war that was around that ilvl with fyrak

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To watch him do 90k

stiff barn
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Lol

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Is he just pressing bt/bb

hidden sinew
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yeah the wow token system kinda fucked the game in that aspect

upbeat sentinel
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I don’t even fuckin know I didn’t bother diving in on recount aside from checking ramphe

hidden sinew
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it was needed tho cuz all the gold sellers. ig

upbeat sentinel
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Rampage

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Which he’d pressed 30 times in an 18 way rest

hidden sinew
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yikes.

upbeat sentinel
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Straight trolling or bought account

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But far from the only one lmao

hidden sinew
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im 471 ilvl and i average around 160-190k dps

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theres no excuse for a485 doing that lmao

upbeat sentinel
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I’m same ilvl with trash trinkets and do about 150

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My frost dk having a heroic cataclysmic is painful

flat river
upbeat sentinel
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On god

flat river
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lel

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did they have leggo?

upbeat sentinel
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Yes

flat river
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ok wtf

hidden sinew
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its real tho lmao. i invited a 3.1k io blood dk just to have him legit die 10 times within the first 6 minutes of a 20

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salty af. alot of fake ios out there

upbeat sentinel
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We invited a 2.1k one that had the lege and did 180k average across the dungeon

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A blood dk that is

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Was p fuckin nuts

hidden sinew
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yeah honestly why i wish the io system for wow was a little different.

upbeat sentinel
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Lege just causes blood and fury to ascend from their mortal shells into godhood

flat river
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i invited a warrior tank a while back

hidden sinew
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i feel like they should have a score comparing them to other players of the same spec too.

flat river
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he died alot

hidden sinew
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besides the io.

flat river
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turns out he was wearing cape that allows him to teleport to stormwind keks

upbeat sentinel
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Our war tank forgot to go out of battle stance

flat river
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LMAO

upbeat sentinel
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But he wasn’t a pug so we roasted the fucking shit out of him for a while

flat river
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nah bro wanted parses

hidden sinew
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its okay i did a +20 last week without being in anystance

upbeat sentinel
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Throne*

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There was no parsing

flat river
hidden sinew
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it was noticable tho xD

upbeat sentinel
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Yeah still noticeable

hidden sinew
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average like 20k dps less than normal.

upbeat sentinel
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Having two giant fucking 2hs makes your auto attacks pretty good

hidden sinew
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right

flat river
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it does

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but

hidden sinew
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the fact i can weild two twohanders is the sole reason i fell inlove with fury warriors

flat river
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it isnt a key killer

hidden sinew
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i mean how is that not badass

upbeat sentinel
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But it’s not as much of a game throw as prot never entering defensive

hidden sinew
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i can even flex on driuids and other casters oh yeah? i got two staffs bitch

upbeat sentinel
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ā€œI wanna do SMFā€

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Breath frost for u bitch

hidden sinew
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ngl tho it would be kinda cool if spell effects changed based on the weapon you were using

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not actual effects just visuals

flat river
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whirlwind spins with 1 weapon btw

upbeat sentinel
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Ya it’s stupid but the visual kinda covers it up

flat river
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real

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looking from the back it doesnt show

upbeat sentinel
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It doesn’t break my unga bunga immersion

flat river
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but from front it's very visable

upbeat sentinel
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S2 does though

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Burn S2

flat river
upbeat sentinel
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S3=lower neuron activation

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Immersion in caveman with two big sticks role

flat river
upbeat sentinel
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Whirlwind-Rampage-Bloodwake-Rampage-Bloodwake-Repeat

haughty stirrup
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when we use legendary on smolderon ?

past pivot
clever path
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never die

chilly fractal
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Bunch of space cadets voting for S2

upbeat sentinel
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@haughty stirrup

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TL:DR just don’t die from using it and ur fine

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Not worth chasing 100dps by holding and risking getting your ass beat by fire circles in intermission

haughty stirrup
upbeat sentinel
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But technically probably intermission if the axe charge doesn’t get you smited from the planet

upbeat sentinel
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Wait M or H smold

haughty stirrup
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I think it is time when he going to center. No rings , no risk.

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M

upbeat sentinel
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Ah I have no clue how m smold goes so whatever you think lmao

analog charm
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I’m trying my best to not be a pussy during p2 on m smol, but can’t quite get myself to commit to staying in.

warm crag
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just press your defensives lol

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or play it like a humanoid and leap out

upbeat sentinel
analog charm
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Hahahaa I know, I need to do that. This is my first tier on warrior in some time since being ret for years so I’m still feeling all that out

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Do you only need enraged regen for that?

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Or do you need spell reflect too

warm crag
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just leap out man

analog charm
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Okay

clever path
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dont leap out

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just regen

analog charm
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Okay

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Lmao

upbeat sentinel
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In the process of swapping from Frost DK main to fury war main after like 6 years of FDK, not having AMS is a fucking trip and a half

warm crag
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the smold dps check is so trivial that you dont need to optimize damage like that

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save your big defensives for something that is actually unavoidable

analog charm
warm crag
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you have spell reflect

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dstance ER 2x 2h 10% passive dr

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you are indestructible if you play right

analog charm
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The 10%

upbeat sentinel
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When fwar can have dstance but fdk can’t have blood presence

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😦

analog charm
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Sorry I prob sound like such a moron

half willow
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I think dps DK plenty tanky without blood pres

upbeat sentinel
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Ya it is

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The stamina talent being free with all the defensives is nice

wanton mirage
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how many weeks are we in S3 and how many weeks left in estimate? Still no Augury even normal, no Leggo club. Start to feel like shits now.

warm crag
haughty stirrup
upbeat sentinel
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IMO

oblique trail
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You will not win this battle

warm crag
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stop being a padding bitch on a boss that dies if 17 of your raiders survive till the end

upbeat sentinel
oblique trail
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Nop

warm crag
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especially if your warrior dies and deletes their vod

oblique trail
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!!!

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Who would do that though??

analog charm
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We’re on M Tindril now, and I find that I need to basically go a hard AOE build so we can reliably get roots down while others go more ST. I did my simming for roots only by doing 10 target cleave 20 seconds. I feel like there is a better way to do this though. It has me running about 40% crit, 19% haste, 60% mastery, and 23% vers w/ might of the ocean and myth track butchers block. Is it stupid to be that full into AOE?

warm crag
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not me at least

warm crag
oblique trail
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The only avoidable damage I take on Smoldie is the one intermission ring in i1, the rest my WASD keys give me 100% avoidance to

analog charm
solemn plover
oblique trail
analog charm
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Like if I don’t have CDs we have laggards who can’t hit portal

warm crag
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theres only two roots in p1

oblique trail
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No matter how much you might need AoE

analog charm
solemn plover
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Do you go ST or AoE on Gnarl

oblique trail
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If you have Brand then use that instead

tacit rapids
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hey guys, just a quick question? whats your opinion about the leggy weapon, im still struggeling when playing with a DH friend, whos doin like a ton more dmg. in warcraft logs we are both above 80% key performance so i think its not based on not knowing my class. we both have around 485

solemn plover
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@warm crag

analog charm
upbeat sentinel
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Or still tryna get it

analog charm
oblique trail
warm crag
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oooh

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sorry yeah there are three roots lol

upbeat sentinel
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Yeah DH is brain dead good

warm crag
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third roots should exclusively be solved by fliers

upbeat sentinel
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But the lege is a little underwhelming, far better than nothing

warm crag
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are they doing their job correctly?

oblique trail
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3rd roots are indeed a flier set

tacit rapids
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so sad, that a legendary weapon does not compete in the meters

oblique trail
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But you can go full ST on Tindral but pop Avatar + Roar on 3rd roots if you aren't flying there

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And you'll do your part

warm crag
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and you should be assigned to flying there

oblique trail
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3rd roots is the 50 second mark innit

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Iirc

warm crag
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2nd roots is 0:51

analog charm
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I’m flying on the first, any reason to be in 2nd flying?

warm crag
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thats what you hold ava for

oblique trail
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That's 2nd?

past pivot
warm crag
analog charm
warm crag
analog charm
upbeat sentinel
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We can at least rest easy knowing DH probably won’t be a god next tier

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(Watch us get nerfed and them stay the same)

sour frigate
analog charm
lapis lion
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Assume I don't have Might, because I don't. For M+, my augury is locked in, my other options are brand(no), or Pip's or hero track Mirror. Which would you guys play?

oblique trail
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Or Rezan

lapis lion
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Theoretically, Mirror will probably out perform pip's if used perfectly, but 3 min cd is a pain in the ass in keys

upbeat sentinel
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My internal monologue was screaming

oblique trail
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Fury basically just goes full ST for Tindral so accommodate that with whatever trinkets you got

analog charm
analog charm
oblique trail
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Then use Might + Rezan

analog charm
warm crag
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wait no

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would go mirror

analog charm
wanton mirage
analog charm
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I’m running 1x Sophic 1x Wafting, is that the play too? Or double wafting?

oblique trail
#

Whatever sims best for you

analog charm
#

That’s prob sim question

oblique trail
#

Some have Wafting + Earthern/Burning/Frosting Wit sim better

analog charm
#

Yeah I thought that as I hit send hahaha

warm crag
oblique trail
#

Or 2x Wafting

past pivot
warm crag
#

and it does fit the usual key pattern better of very big pull into boss into very big pull etc

#

iirc biz uses it but i heard that last weeks ago

flat river
#

i timed my +23 ataldazar

#

got KSH

#

:D

warm crag
#

gamer

past pivot
#

Grats.

flat river
#

now i have galakronds fall +24

#

o-o

wanton mirage
#

fall is easy, you got it

past pivot
#

I decided yesterday to keep pushing. Did my first keys past 20 as well. Knocked out 4 22s.

noble elm
#

Fall isn’t bad this week

#

When you time your fall you’ll get rise then it’s truly a dead key šŸŽ‰

wanton mirage
#

i just hate Waycrest to my core this week. Those corridors and cyclones arghhh

noble elm
#

Don’t fight in the hall

#

Very few pulls in waycrest you need to do outside of the courtyard

wanton mirage
#

my 25 pug tanks still love to do them in corridors

eternal sundial
noble elm
#

There’s only 1 fight you have to do in a hall and it’s the pull in the stair room before the courtyard

#

Literally everything else can be courtyard or boss room - people do love the hallway tho

upbeat sentinel
#

If lege no drop this week

#

I riot

clever path
upbeat sentinel
#

I hope you find them

iron portal
#

I vote for S4

drowsy trench
#

:^)

clever path
#

thats so rude and straight away name calling

#

apologize in form of voting for season 2 and all is forgiven

flat river
#

real

proud vessel
#

when does season 4 drop?

wanton mirage
#

When I get leggo

#

s4 drop

drowsy trench
steep fable
#

huh, majority of NA want season 3. EU an even bigger margin for season 2.
Honestly wasn't expecting such a massive difference by virtue of region alone.

proud vessel
#

I like season 3 but loved just having cd's all the time

neat gazelle
#

March or April right

drowsy trench
#

I doubt it

flat river
drowsy trench
#

every patch so far has been 6 months

upbeat sentinel
#

Also why is the vote on the forums

#

How has blizzard not figured out how to do ingame voting

steep fable
flat river
upbeat sentinel
flat river
upbeat sentinel
#

No but seriously this vote is ass

red berry
#

they should buff the classes that need buffs

flat river
#

season 1 voters are based

red berry
#

please.

upbeat sentinel
#

They should’ve 1. Done the voting ingame, and 2. Told us what the rebalanced numbers will roughly be

drowsy trench
#

or or or, hear me out

tacit crag
#

I just don't want carpal tunnel. S3 may play slower but at least I don't have to destroy my fingers in apm to do damage.

drowsy trench
#

Made a new tier set and avoided this degeneracy to begin with :^)

upbeat sentinel
drowsy trench
#

or just given us all 3 to begin with, cause fated is a meme anyway

past pivot
upbeat sentinel
#

Paying full price for 3 tiers every expac zzzzzz

#

But I’ll do it again

#

Because I’m a degenerate

tacit crag
drowsy trench
upbeat sentinel
drowsy trench
#

Launch patch of DF was a really good patch, but minus dragon riding and profs, everything else was the same

flat river
#

i don't like season 2 raid

drowsy trench
#

BFA, while hated by most, had Islands/Visions/Warfronts

flat river
#

season 1 was awesome

upbeat sentinel
flat river
#

season 3 is amazing

drowsy trench
#

and even tho not all of those were liked, people still had options and Blizz was at least trying something new

#

Shadowlands and DF from the PvE side are so by the numbers it hurts

tacit crag
drowsy trench
#

They gave up on it after 1 patch

upbeat sentinel
drowsy trench
#

Torghast was just worse islands in my eyes

flat river
#

if it was optional i'dve liked it

drowsy trench
#

and it became a chore cause it was tied to your legendary grind

tacit crag
past pivot
#

Torghast was fun until it became mandatory

upbeat sentinel
#

You still had to do it to get your leges

drowsy trench
upbeat sentinel
#

It wasn’t like ā€œI look forward to doing these :)ā€

drowsy trench
#

they forgot the key thing that makes rogue likes fun, the fact that you can go through them fast! while making crazy stuff

upbeat sentinel
#

But ya just do it better

#

Being for some reason worried about balance in torghast was ??????

#

Just let us be fucking bonkers

drowsy trench
#

It's cause blizz has to watch out to not hurt fee fees :^)

upbeat sentinel
#

Should’ve just put shitloads of catch-up gear into it and made it broken as fuck for most/all classes

#

So I could have a blast on alts

drowsy trench
#

unless it's their holy trinity of classes

#

Rogue/Mage/DH

dreamy trellis
#

is there an overview which set is ahead right now ? us and eu combined

noble elm
#

Wowhead had one yesterday, otherwise there’s a link in the pins

#

For us I think

#

Us as in we the people here

dreamy trellis
#

wowhead is pretty outdated and the us wow forum doesnt show results for an eu account but thx šŸ™‚ eu has 5382 votes for s2, 3589 for s3 and 997 for s1

#

has someone the us number ?

thorny lily
#

is bad crafting a sword ? i cant drop any 😦

wanton mirage
hardy cargo
#

I would personally advise against it, unless your ilvl on weps is reeeally holding you back currently

thorny lily
#

😦

hardy cargo
#

just simply bc lego+489 from vault will always be better

clever path
#

I voted sezon 2

upbeat sentinel
wanton mirage
#

We should have more than enough sparks to freely craft wep if your wep is highest simming in droptimizer

eternal sundial
#

S1 best set worst tuning

#

wcyd

thorny lily
hardy cargo
#

a ring would help u out too

thorny lily
#

i can do one craft yet

hardy cargo
#

if wanting lariat

#

lariat gets better with more gem slots

thorny lily
#

yeah, i'm holding 2 for that. Some day i'll craft when have more gems

#

the ring i only need to upgrade with aspect crest

hardy cargo
#

yeah, if youre wanting lariat, and youll prolly end up crafting a ring for socket before u loot one then I would ride out the weapon storm for now

#

esp considering I think 18s drop lvl 1 of hero track? idk I just do 20s when farming loot

thorny lily
#

18 drops hero yeah

#

i'm farming tides for trinket and the axe

wanton mirage
#

First 3 crafts = 2 embellish + 1ring with packet.

You can craft whatever you want after that imo

hardy cargo
#

yeah, but he wants lariat which is reliant on sockets, so hed reeally want another crafted ring for the free one. and 483 weps are farmable, just gotta put the time in

thorny lily
#

oh, 2h is 2 sparks right?

hardy cargo
#

yep

thorny lily
#

expensive :/

wanton mirage
#

Btw Lariat is bad... Don't @ me

thorny lily
#

hehehehehe

hardy cargo
#

with full gems? its not bad at all

past pivot
#

Lariat is fine for MT

hardy cargo
#

it simming very comparable to sfp with full gems

half cargo
#

All embellishments are so close to each other. It’s so minor you’re probably better off crafting one that covers your weakest spot

hard widget
#

Lariat is decent, it just has 1 issue. The procs are inconsistant. And since we're so frontloaded with our cd's it sucks to have it proc outside of cds

wanton mirage
#

It sims worse than versa wrist and low uptime mastery embellishment for aoe

hardy cargo
#

what is the bsl uptime in that sim? also youd be comparing it to sfp not wrists

#

in a m plus setting

thorny lily
#

i'l craft a ring, next week i get the legendary one and gg

#

confirmed

lean wasp
#

just finished getting boosted in hc on my fresh 70 nelf, this is all the loot i got :

hardy cargo
plucky patio
#

is it a loss to just keep roar macrod to avatar?

lean wasp
clever path
#

nice waste of monei

lean wasp
clever path
#

lemme tell you a trick from an inside

#

its better to pay for 8x17 runs, than a full hero raid

half cargo
dense elbow
#

Hear me out, 8x17 runs... are pointless

#

8x18 runs make more sense

lean wasp
clever path
lean wasp
#

yea its like 1 item difference and double the gold

clever path
#

ah yes, well - yea , makes sense now

wanton mirage
#

Let me pull this up

lean wasp
#

stan confirmed saved is the same as unsaved

clever path
#

boosts re bad okayge FingerGuns

dense elbow
#

18s, are what 150k gold, and you usually get free armor stack on top if you ask to prio it. So 2 loot pieces, and a 489 vfault slot.
Hms peepostudy depends if you want aug as a vault chance, or a 489 RNG dung item

1 18 is 20min ish, 1 HC is around 1h and 30min.

humble plover
#

Just don't buy boosts and get the gear yourself, unless you buy it from me

eternal sundial
#

frfr

dense elbow
#

I will take that advice

clever path
#

and main important thing

#

vote seaon 2

#

thats how you get gucci gear on alts now

dense elbow
#

Vote Season 1, wit all your 50+ characters

#

turn the tide

clever path
#

iranian bot farm vote season 2

dense elbow
#

There are at least 2 ppl trickle bot voteing atm

#

All is fair in love and war

clever path
#

just like elections in US

dense elbow
#

As long the elections vote s1, I dont care

clever path
#

but its season 2 doe

past pivot
#

No one will vote S1 for anything.

dense elbow
#

S1, or death! Rampage

humble plover
#

Death then

clever path
#

people wont know what passive bonus means

dense elbow
hardy cargo
#

frost mage is voting s1 šŸ™‚

clever path
#

I wonder if anyone got trolled hard

#

like i dunno, demon hunters

cosmic lance
#

Anyone got EU vote numbers? Still 50/39/11 for s3 s2 s1 in NA

timid pawn
#

is crafting leggo axe worth it?

oblique trail
#

=)

humble plover
#

Define worth it

clever path
#

eu

cosmic lance
#

wow almost complete opposite to NA

humble plover
dense elbow
#

big stat stick with burn effect, 100% worth

dreamy trellis
#

eu has 5382 votes for s2, 3589 for s3 and 997 for s1

past pivot
oblique trail
#

It's not 10%?

timid pawn
#

gold is my issue hahaha maybe il just buy a wow token. how much did it cost u guys?

dreamy trellis
#

how many votes in total in NA ?

oblique trail
#

If you have a 489 weapon it'll at most be roughly 5-6% on the highest end

timid pawn
clever path
#

like 10-15k

#

can do for less too

#

but i just high ball to get prio and faster shit

timid pawn
#

seems like nice upgrade for me

low folio
#

i want the leggo for m+ and its definitely more than 5-6% in M+

clever path
past pivot
#

It cost me nothing. I bought about 800k worth of mats when it was announced then turned around and sold those for like 3.5 million gold. Financed the leggo plus some

dense elbow
#

ppl will vote s1 in mass soon, bamboozling blizzard

low folio
#

honestly fated season probably should have been voted for the M+ tier set anyways. no reason to take raiding seriously in a fated season

past pivot
#

I've been saying that all along

clever path
low folio
#

i still just like the s3 tier set more gameplay wise but it would be smarter for power

clever path
#

i thoguht you advocated season 3

#

which is more or less raid spec

low folio
#

to choose s2

past pivot
clever path
#

love you

low folio
#

are they having a second vote or something?

dense elbow
#

S1 would be the best option, if you wanted to see balance. As blizzard would actually have to put in some work.

S2 and S3 is cookiecutter, they will say "meh, it is good enough"

lament bear
#

Whats the best 2h weapon to craft, still the bonecrusher?

low folio
#

i wouldnt mind s1 if i knew they would actually balance it. but you cant trust blizzard

hardy cargo
low folio
#

no chance s3 tier set is better in M+ than s2

dense elbow
#

heh, blizz and tuning things, funny - I remember S1, I will never forget

hardy cargo
#

its much closer than youd think

thorny lily
hardy cargo
#

but s2 had us doing fucking dogshit single target damage

thorny lily
#

i was thinking s3 is better but s2 is more fun

dense elbow
#

Then you vote s2

low folio
#

so raid doesnt matter in fated season honestly

dense elbow
#

Always vote for what you think is more fun, numbers don't matter

hardy cargo
dense elbow
#

No guarentee that lariat will be proccing on opener tho

#

flat stat is there

low folio
#

but ya i would actually prefer s1 if i trusted blizzard to actually balance it to be good

dense elbow
#

Then vote s1

low folio
#

but i dont trust them

clever path
#

vote season 2

past pivot
#

CC: @clever path I don't know always know what I'm talking about but I am consistent about it.

dense elbow
#

Axekandi bringing out the photoshop

#

wow

clever path
past pivot
#

word, all good.

noble elm
#

This logical and rational conversation is not what I’d expect from this channel

#

Usually it just ends up with someone getting smited

dense elbow
#

It is voteing season, it supposed to get messy and rowdy.

#

1 more day of it too

#

Then we get a week of dooming

#

from all the ppl who wanted whatever lost

past pivot
thorny lily
#

s2 aoe is more cap then now right ?

noble elm
#

Legendary rng has extended dooming

#

Though I will say warriors seem to complain a lot less than dks about leggo rng

clever path
#

okay guys, a dumb question but thats how i roll

#

who gives bigger deeps

#

ench shama or pala?

#

and which requires less brain to play

dense elbow
#

Enh

#

Enh

#

Play enh, give me WFT

hardy cargo
#

ret require no brain

dense elbow
#

if not, play Pally

low folio
#

i mean honestly its not likely to change from s3 being the winner based on the current vote numbers without some massive campaign anyways

noble elm
#

Dunno Enh is kinda galaxy brain

clever path
#

galaxy brain is the funniest shit i heard in like a year

fading bane
#

i havnt played either, but i doubt that ret is harder than enh

past pivot
#

Ret is like an AOE fury warrior ATM

hardy cargo
#

enh is 100% harder(ive played both)

clever path
meager void
#

meatball ele imho

clever path
#

like with all them divine storms 700+k dps

past pivot
#

Not any more

low folio
#

man ww monks in my keys are just doing so much dps now

noble elm
#

I’m pretty sure you can be a successful ret by just pressing shiny buttons

clever path
#

but dont enh shamans have more shiny buttons?

wanton mirage
hardy cargo
#

they have more buttons that glow from procs yeah

clever path
#

yeah i used template for warrior action bars

#

and lol, didnt fit AT ALL

noble elm
#

Enh feels like I’m playing prot, lots of binds

clever path
#

okay, i understand - its for gigachads

#

i wonder how hard it is to play demon hunters because i was getting trashed on boost today by 2 demon hunters for doing capped aoe

#

and they were going 900k

#

i farted out 2 times 900k aaaaand thats it

dense elbow
#

You do outburst DH, for aprox 2 sec.

#

So we got that going

noble elm
#

Dh is not hard, neither is bm hunter

neat gazelle
humble plover
#

Think dh have a low bar for entry but have a higher ceiling

neat gazelle
#

I say that as a ret main

broken river
#

What seasons are winning so far

snow marlin
clever path
#

US And EU

dense elbow
#

Fury burst is kinda solid, as double OF pops with TR

wanton mirage
broken river
#

3 for talents, 2 for cosmetic ?

dense elbow
#

after that we flat

hardy cargo
noble elm
past pivot
clever path
meager void
#

EU is weird, have you seen eurovision?

clever path
broken river
clever path
broken river
#

I’ll quit if s2 wins lol

humble plover
#

Bye

clever path
#

just main ret

past pivot
#

I blame Boris Johnson for the EU vote shenanigans.

clever path
#

Ret is arms warrior without bleeds

hardy cargo
humble plover
#

Just play warlock. They'll be the best at something regardless

dense elbow
#

S3 wins, because NA voted for it to win. Not their fault, EU voted wrong.

noble elm
#

That’s 5 target

hardy cargo
#

wait that might be the wrong link holup

past pivot
#

No matter what wins, people will be crying

dense elbow
#

On something split close to the middle, yep

#

no avoiding it

clever path
dense elbow
#

will be a lot of doomin

clever path
#

but then critcake will make a video

#

and we gucci

#

i ll go talk to asmongald

dense elbow
#

CritCake will talk to a dev, that dev says "Oh, btw, we buffing OF by 51%."

And then everyone lived happily ever since

clever path
#

tell him to vote season 1

#

cant wait for @flat river to start cooking builds to return OF

low folio
#

ill be dooming if i dont get leggo this week /cry

dense elbow
#

I am way ahead of him

#

My old s2 OF builds are ready to go

hardy cargo
#

need augury too

dense elbow
humble plover
#

Stop wanting the leggo and you get it I swear

low folio
#

time to drown our sorrows together

wanton mirage
dense elbow
#

Drown our sorrows in making new chars to vote season 1?

clever path
#

i thought warriors can shoot bow still

#

because i can equip it

#

but instead of shooting, my warrior just starts smacking stuff with fists

dreamy trellis
#

votes right now

hardy cargo
quiet oak
hardy cargo
wanton mirage
hardy cargo
#

šŸ™‚

hardy cargo
clever path
#

alliance is so nice

#

i suspect its because of my charname

eternal sundial
#

hes right

#

wasteman gamer

hardy cargo
#

what is a wasteman gamer

clever path
#

i have no clue

eternal sundial
iron portal
warm crag
dire badge
#

weirdo freak

warm crag
#

which coward pinged me and deleted it

low folio
#

everyone ping spongie

clever path
#

@warm crag vote sezon 2

warm crag
#

i did

low folio
#

i initially voted season 3 but i changed my mind after remembering that season 2 has a better talent build for mythic plus

warm crag
#

ye its all the same shit cdr build but at least s2 is somewhat entertaining in m+

clever path
#

speaking of fated

#

are there any giga op trinks from season 1 ?

low folio
#

i like the playstyle of s3 but s2 is probably better for m+ dps wise regardless

warm crag
#

coward

#

@humble plover

humble plover
#

Whooo me

clever path
#

does bajheera still play retail?

low folio
#

think so

clever path
#

man, have you noticed that all warrior online personas are so damn sexy and buff

#

bahjeera, swify, crit

#

gala

low folio
#

pilav

clever path
#

also

humble plover
#

Gromnak?

stuck bison
humble plover
#

Saw that man eat almost a whole tube of pepperoni

clever path
#

say what you want about asmon, but he got nice hair

past pivot
clever path
past pivot
#

yes

#

S1 was Icon and Grieftorch iirc

eternal sundial
#

Anvil will be shit in fated

#

Unless rasz stay a 2 hour fight

wanton mirage
#

more like Signet and Anvil for ST?

past pivot
#

Signet takes too long to ramp up

eternal sundial
#

Anvil has the same issue that's why i point it out

#

Though icon prolly beats brand

#

Anvil certainly does

twilit pelican
#

torch is way to go probably šŸ˜„

eternal sundial
#

Eh

oblique trail
#

Real ones still use it

#

šŸ˜Ž

eternal sundial
#

Log off dƤemonejƤeger smh

oblique trail
#

nyo

clever path
#

I Miss comet from sark

#

that was a fun trink

wanton mirage
#

do you guys think there will be seasonal affix back in fated for m+

twilit pelican
#

they should add seasonal affix from shadowlands

past pivot
#

It won't be significant. Blizz already said they don't want affixes to be tha significant

low folio
#

boo

#

id prefer one season over all the crappy constant ones

fringe flame
#

yeah I'm getting bored with the same old affixes

#

I liked the BFA one where you killed some void thingy and made a tunnel and the one in SL with the minibosses and the buffs you could chose

lean wasp
#

dude wtf happend to eu votes

#

54% for s2

#

anyone can check NA? it doesnt show for me

lean wasp
deep sapphire
lean wasp
#

yea i thought so but it doesnt

fringe flame
#

50/39/11 for 3/2/1

deep sapphire
#

Hmm weird cause I just looked and I remember when I first looked S3 for Fury had some 3500 number for it and it’s now over 3600.

brittle vigil
#

season 2 is 8671 votes and season 3 is 7796 votes

lean wasp
#

guess we are going back to s2

brittle vigil
#

eu an na combined

unreal onyx
#

S2 votes manipulated

clever path
#

come on guys

#

it aint so bad

deep sapphire
#

Yeah S3 was winning by a wide margin when the Wowhead article came out. That’s weird.

clever path
#

you ll see yourself

dense elbow
#

Dont worry, I gave s3 two pity votes, ya good now

proud crown
#

true i'll be having a lot of fun on arms dander

unreal onyx
#

there's no way EU votes for S2 gained +2.5k votes within 3h yesterday

#

and none for other seasons

plush ice
#

i wish they would let us have both but switch on demond, season 2 for keys, season 3 for raid

dense elbow
#

What do you mean, lol?

#

you dont have 40+ characters :v

plush ice
#

season 2 way better for keys, but can def suck on some fights for raid

unreal onyx
unreal onyx
#

checked at 6pm and S2 gained 2.5k votes

dense elbow
#

Told you bots were coming

sinful spoke
celest sierra
#

Im torn guys what trinket should i use with my 489 might.. all the other trinkets i have are 483.. I got Butchers block, Signet, Rezan, Crab, Sandglass, Pips, Spiked counterweight