fury

[modest condor]

easy

[glad plover]

That must very scary experience 😄

[modest condor]

the real challenge is 5 fury

[dense elbow]

You can use Shield as Fury

just sayin

[slim coral]

I miss the train dungeon

Grimrail

[modest condor]

no you dont

[dense elbow]

I dont, it was kinda railroaded

[glad plover]

Please do not do that, if you do prot and 4 fury, and somehow do that in time, we are getting nerfed 300%

[dense elbow]

also week was BDK last boss simulator

[slim coral]

Silm I liked it

[modest condor]

no you didnt

[red yew]

Grimrail was fine after they fixed the visuals tbh

[flat river]

healer died at 60% rezahn

[clever path]

anyone got atal dazaar and wanna do 4 fury 1 prot?

[slim coral]

I have bad dungeon taste and I'm ok accepting that

[flat river]

we killed him no one below 80% hp

[flat river]

im down to go fury

[slim coral]

I loved Kings rest but lots of people didn't

[slow veldt]

Is there any info at all regarding the Lesser Fyr Alath tokens at all? Would be so nice to just kill Fyrakk and nvm rest of raid >.<

[flat river]

but i dont have ataldazar

[dense elbow]

King's Rest is my fav dung

[flat river]

i have BRH

[slow veldt]

info as in if they even do any difference

[clever path]

because people dont know how to drop gold on 1st boss

[dense elbow]

Motherlode was a ton of fun too, but KR won that expansion

[clever path]

and how to not get shredded on 3rd to last

[slim coral]

soccerboss and last boss were fun

[dense elbow]

Big dam window

[glad plover]

I chased that stupid sword, waiting for it to drop from weekly chest.

[olive wraith]

What are these burrs doing here?

[flat river]

@clever path wanna do my BRH +21 with me

we get 4 fury and 1 prot

[clever path]

no im going to sleep now

[flat river]

fuck

anyone else

[dense elbow]

Sorry, nah

[flat river]

aw

[dense elbow]

Bursting and 4 fury warriors max zugzug = a lot of stacks, so the moment you cant keep chainpulling, ya just dead

[heavy folio]

havent played fury in a bit, when do I even press execute? is it above rampage when still enraged and not fully capped on rage? or just bt,rampage,bt all the time

[flat river]

anyone wanna run an M+ drunk on WoW beer

[dense elbow]

BB, ramp, BB, exe, BT, ramp, BB, when rage allows it to make sense

[olive wraith]

Ex>ramp in execute phase if you have AJ

[edgy widget]

With AJ yes, without it’s just a filler for rage

[flat river]

hb tommorrow

[flat river]

AJ?

from Beta Squad?

lowkey don't knowwhat AJ is though

[olive wraith]

Ahsen jugg

[flat river]

oh

understand now

[calm swallow]

Sheesh, i need to figure out what I'm doing wrong on some of these bosses cause I got a lotta purple parses and somehow ended up with a 99 on Fyrakk lol

I feel like my logs are sad

[unreal onyx]

I don't think I can up my yellow ones

bc that required adds to live longer than 1s

[primal bane]

I’m going to see if I can get PI in my next heroic clear so I can really parse lol

[summer quail]

tswift parsing sucks

[amber arch]

can someone help me out with the wowhead macro? is there an error in this:

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Spear of Bastion] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar

[sullen dove]

tswift is you just have to be in a group bad enough to not kill roots but not so bad they can’t kill boss

i.e. an alt run with a guild is parsing prime time

[molten relic]

I’m always like 2/3 on every boss in my guild

Mf augs perma buffing mage and hunter

[dapper goblet]

vote season 2

[sullen dove]

flaked on season 1

[molten relic]

What happened to season 1 vote

[unreal onyx]

you don't need PI to parse

I also did all 99s without any

[dapper goblet]

season 1 cant win becuase bad brain warrior players

so gotta vote season 2

[primal bane]

I didn’t say you did but I want top 100 parses

[dapper goblet]

only hope

[unreal onyx]

(also having PI on the rankings invalidates the parse anyway)

[primal bane]

And it would make it easier

[slim coral]

season 1 is cool because procs but at the same time I feel like they wouldnt tune it correctly

[primal bane]

Do people check it without externals?

[molten relic]

Did u do yours on sales or alt runs

In our main run mfs are all 485 no way I’m doing 99s on every boss

[dapper goblet]

pi only invalidates it if you get a bunch

[unreal onyx]

voluntary hc raid

[molten relic]

Have 4 99s I think

[unreal onyx]

some alts some mains

[summer quail]

fury PI is pretty bad, don't need it to parse

[primal bane]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/emerald-dream/sickwar#difficulty=4

[clever belfry]

me when heroic logs

[primal bane]

I mean thought we were talking heroic

[molten relic]

We are ya

[clever belfry]

i will still post

[unreal onyx]

I got rank 9 volcoross without PI today

[clever belfry]

me when heroic logs

[molten relic]

I miss mythic raiding ngl but

[clever belfry]

holy shit dood!!!

[molten relic]

Wife aggro

Is op

[unreal onyx]

(hc)

I know

[molten relic]

I think I have like sub 500 rank on 3-4 heroic fights

With no windfury

Or Pis

[unreal onyx]

that was more just to say that you do not need PI to log decent

[eternal sundial]

even in mythic u can get good ranks on that shit without pi

[molten relic]

200 something on volocross I think

[eternal sundial]

top 5 council mythic no pi

[primal bane]

But it does make it easier

[unreal onyx]

im not saying im good since my mythic logs are veeeeeeery average

and hc is more or less a meme

[eternal sundial]

idk u just need to rekill

and u get good logs

[unreal onyx]

questionable

[molten relic]

But tbh if u get stuck doing mechanics on mythic

Compared to mfs who just perma on boss

Ur logs gonna be worse on mythic

I have a large brain so I always got stuck doing lotta mechanics on mythic when I was raiding in a CE guild

[eternal sundial]

i mean u can do both

[summer quail]

idk what mechanics those would be

[dapper goblet]

feel like only mechanic that can really fuck you is getting a duck on council

[primal bane]

My mythic parses are mid af

[oblique trail]

hate coucnil

[warm crag]

council logs also coincidentally the most recognized parses of them all

[dapper goblet]

think next week it will be tindral because 1 less person has to go up and can stay down

[eternal sundial]

🤝

[junior gale]

Council easily worst boss of the raid

[summer quail]

getting bomb on nymue sucks as well but it happens so rarely

[eternal sundial]

of the expansion

imo

[junior gale]

Nah I hate Sennarth more

[eternal sundial]

senarth is whatever

[unreal onyx]

sennarth was pretty okay

[junior gale]

Cba with the ice bullshit

[summer quail]

ngl i love sennarth. had so much fun on that boss

[unreal onyx]

compared to council

[flat river]

hows the votes coming along

[eternal sundial]

questionable

[summer quail]

sennarth i just slide around, jump to shit. charge up the stairs

[unreal onyx]

I wouldn't say it was my fav boss

but I don't get the hate for it

[eternal sundial]

losing control of your character = BAD

[summer quail]

i recognize that the boss isn't amazing but i had alot of fun on him

[junior gale]

Sennarth made me switch a and d to strafe keys because if you had character turn on those keys u would bug on the ice and just keep spinning

[unreal onyx]

you never lost control

[eternal sundial]

it felt like it

ur movement wasnt what u input thus tilting

[dapper goblet]

cannot wait to feast upon the tears of those wanting season 3 when they go back into vault/abberus and dont have cds for stuff

i will be feasting

[clever path]

sure

[eternal sundial]

wdym no damage on 2nd add wave on sark

[dapper goblet]

i'll be feasting

[clever path]

4 fury 1 prot sounds ideal

but i fear we are going to get nerfed

[oblique trail]

=)

[clever path]

do rally stack ?

[eternal sundial]

no

[dapper goblet]

rally in current year of 2024

[oblique trail]

shut up windfury bot

[eternal sundial]

rally more like aug passive

[dapper goblet]

rather be the windfury bot than need one

[eternal sundial]

@oblique trailsoda told me ur 0.3 mythic avg higher than me. he was right and i am now both happy for u and mad

[junior gale]

Rally is like putting a bandaid on someone instead of a rally everyone for a Last stand fantasy

[stuck bison]

pressing rally is a dps loss it has gcd and doesnt worth anymore

[oblique trail]

L

Owned lego abuser

[eternal sundial]

im abused by guild

it evens out

[summer quail]

benzai also 2 ranks above me on nymue

[warm crag]

benzai also a noob

[oblique trail]

true I don't have lego or hc aug

[eternal sundial]

i have rank 9 or something but its arms so its bad

[oblique trail]

basically worthless

[summer quail]

it's okay my average is better by 0.5

[eternal sundial]

i only get good ranks on fake specs per boss

fury on council

arms on volc

[barren dagger]

i had 2 rets today doing 8% of overall in keys with leggo. this sound right?

sounds like a lot

[oblique trail]

Idk it's probably right

[cosmic lance]

Yeah thats about right

[oblique trail]

Reclearing tomorrow surely I fix the shitter logs I have left

[summer quail]

ye, my leggo does around the same. tho i only do ataldazar keys for the weeklies

[oblique trail]

wait

you're also lego abuser

gg the world against me

john wick moment

[summer quail]

yes but i didn't have monk buff for 2 of my 97s

so it evens out

[clever path]

Next week I get my legendary

You’ll see

[humble plover]

U can have mine banezi

[eternal sundial]

why the fuck do you get to reclear but i dont

[oblique trail]

Because who tf goes to prog Tindral again when you've only seen P1 and he gets giga omega insanity nerfed on wed

To an almost completely different fight

[summer quail]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/draenor/ermac my nymue and council logs without monk buff

[junior gale]

We in Tswift prison no more reclears till Fyrakk dead :/

[red yew]

Not me

[eternal sundial]

because who tf extends 2nd night on smolderon

[red yew]

[eternal sundial]

[summer quail]

actually so mad, monk preventing my 99s

[oblique trail]

You're a real one uheldig

[eternal sundial]

real big game quitter

gr

[oblique trail]

Yeah game quitters are the realest

escaped

[eternal sundial]

really the only good move

[summer quail]

he knew arms would be shit

[eternal sundial]

he hasnt in the past

ask him when else he quit

[summer quail]

lemme guess CN?

[eternal sundial]

@red yewtell them pls

[summer quail]

oh shit no, in sanctum

[eternal sundial]

not in sanctum

[red yew]

[eternal sundial]

@red yewwas it tomb or antorus

i forgor

[red yew]

They lack the critical information

[unreal cape]

The more i play, the more i see that these tier lists are bullshit. C tier spec doing +20k more overall in a +26 key than S tier. hmmm 🤔

[red yew]

[summer quail]

tomb is rough xD

[eternal sundial]

bad rogue

[summer quail]

antorus is fine

[eternal sundial]

tierlist is also popularity

not dps

[red yew]

I quit in tomb and played DH in Antorus

[clever path]

Let’s be real mostly it’s just dps

[oblique trail]

Speaking of DH

[unreal cape]

yeah, i know, he could do way more but there are lots of bad players playing these S tier specs and having high score

[oblique trail]

Benzaidh slowly making its return

[red yew]

Skipped Uldir and then played until Aberrus

[oblique trail]

into glory

[summer quail]

i played Windwalker in antorus. holy moly was so nice

[clever path]

I believe warrior is A tier

[eternal sundial]

DO NOT

[clever path]

Not b

[eternal sundial]

second augury spec

DO NOT

[red yew]

Legends say Benzaidh has never accidentally fel rushed off a cliff

[oblique trail]

wtf do you mean second augury spec

[eternal sundial]

fury and dh

both need one

[oblique trail]

you don't use that dookie turd in M+

[eternal sundial]

neither will get

[junior gale]

no by the rules of alts his DH will get Augury first

[eternal sundial]

then why has my alt war not gotten lego

[oblique trail]

Legends say Benzaidh has indeed never been sent to Narnia by fel rushing near a tiny ledge

[junior gale]

lego different category

you have to be bad at the game to get lego

obvi

[eternal sundial]

i alr have one

i need the second

[red yew]

Truly built diff one of a kind

[oblique trail]

Also like

[red yew]

:her:

[oblique trail]

439 monster

(ignore aug)

[eternal sundial]

buff ret

[red yew]

[clever path]

Bruuuh

Just immo aura 2 times

And gg

[oblique trail]

I'm nitroless no her sticker..

[clever path]

Rage fire kaboom and big dps

[left perch]

HER

[eternal sundial]

works for m

e

[red yew]

L

[final birch]

ngl for 439

thats stacked

as fuck

I swear I'm terrible dh

I do like 150 in fall as 445

I'm new at this shit

[clever path]

Why you even rolled a dh

[final birch]

because people wont inv my arms

I need to learn this shit

[clever path]

Should have just made another warrior

[final birch]

also dh looked fun in s2

all the jumping around

[clever path]

Isn’t DH like very fragile class

[summer quail]

i played some dh in s2. eyebeam is fun

[final birch]

tons of leech

[clever path]

Especially speaking tanking

[summer quail]

nah they are pretty tanky. not fury tanky ofc

[clever path]

Then every DH I got from pug is either brain dead or I dunno

Only when boosting I have seen DH that don’t die

[summer quail]

they prob felrush into things

[clever path]

Today 27 Waycrest , dude pulled first room, full corridor , then went outside pulled witches fucked around for a bit

Died and left

/w me “go back to playing 2s”

[mossy fox]

is benzai rat alt atm

[oblique trail]

Ya Banezirat has barely been touched

[haughty stirrup]

But aug ...

[oblique trail]

Did 1 LFR clear on it and it became 4p + LFR brand though

so

[left perch]

tier list and player skill def unrelated nop

[slim coral]

how much dmg does lego add to keys

anyone know an rough estimate?

[oblique trail]

%-wise like 7-8%

[unreal onyx]

6-8.5% from my keys

[summer quail]

does about 8% of my damage in keys. that's without the increased ilvl

[unreal onyx]

also depends on key

[slim coral]

so about 17-18k?

[summer quail]

keep in mind i only do ataldazar weekly keys, coz i'm lazy. so like 20-21s

[clever path]

How do you not die casting legendary ?

[slim coral]

don't cast it during a bad part

[unreal onyx]

know what happens in the next 3s

[slim coral]

yeah

like if you know yrou group will peram cc adds

you can pop it

[paper ivy]

What tier set is now ahead in votings?

[slim coral]

or if the boss isn't doing anything

[slim coral]

2 for mog 3 for tier set

[barren dagger]

it just feels so bad casting for 3s on a melee character. idk why they would do that

[paper ivy]

RIP

[clever path]

Back in the day slam was a cast

[summer quail]

will say it feels very nice on last boss ataldazar. the 4 adds spawn then you tag them activate leggo. 50% increased damage on boss

[oblique trail]

Idk prob I don't have it

[haughty stirrup]

Delete second known

[oblique trail]

7-8% depends a lot on how much damage you did

[clever path]

And then spider spawns under your ass in those 3 sec

[oblique trail]

Tbf this was also a BRH

So it's omega cheating

[summer quail]

nah, you got time

[dapper goblet]

vote season 2

[haughty stirrup]

No

[dapper goblet]

yes

[haughty stirrup]

No no no

[somber elk]

Yes yes

[umbral ingot]

season 2 was so hot

[clever path]

What did you vote

[haughty stirrup]

S3. Im lazy

[clever path]

[umbral ingot]

I'm fine with season 1 as well

[clever path]

Imagine if blizzard says that lowest voted is going to be the one they will implement

[somber elk]

But we suck in s3

[umbral ingot]

idk

[clever path]

We don’t suck that much

But with s2 we would suck less

[umbral ingot]

I feel like anyone that votes season 3 is either a terrorist or someone with slow fingers

[somber elk]

Kinda do in keys

[clever path]

Keys is all I do

[summer quail]

in raid we're pretty decent. best we've been in dragonflight. in keys tho we are very mediocre this tier

[somber elk]

Keys is only thing i care about

[deft thicket]

But they said that sets will get tuned whatever our vote will be

[umbral ingot]

obviously yeah

[somber elk]

Well the playstyle also sucks😂

[haughty stirrup]

My fingers - my rules

[clever path]

“Fixed visuals of odyns fury”

Tuning ^

[umbral ingot]

[clever path]

I wonder how would they tune season 3 tho

[queen onyx]

Gameplaywise s1 was fun

Garbage set tho

[clever path]

Like isn’t it already “peak gaming “

[bitter fable]

i mean we are not DH levels but i would t say we "suck" in keys

[somber elk]

We suck that much that we dont ever get invited

[haughty stirrup]

Ever adk beat us.

[somber elk]

Even to keys we timed

[deft thicket]

I believe this season the legendary is a curse and a blessing.. i wonder if it will drop before s4

[clever path]

Shame DK sucks so much

It used to be such fun class

[summer quail]

tierlists

[strong tusk]

Idk man lately WW goes so hard lol can’t keep up

[deft thicket]

I haven't seen dks to be in high tier long time now anyways

[barren dagger]

what happens if we dont get it until season 4? run LFR of amildrassil every week?

sounds booty

[deft geyser]

sub is certainly not fucking c tier

[somber elk]

What

[clever path]

Buy heroic fyreak kills till the end of expansion

[strong tusk]

Amildrassil will be on rotation outside lfr

[umbral ingot]

sub placement is sussy

[barren dagger]

oh sorry i dont know how fated works

[deft geyser]

the tierlist is based off of what people play

[somber elk]

ik

[barren dagger]

never did it

[deft geyser]

people just play outlaw

and sub is automatically "c tier" even though its not

[umbral ingot]

fr

[bitter fable]

if that s the case for you im sorry -persenaly dont find finding a grp hard but difrent expiriences

[umbral ingot]

its literally the most played ones

if you look at stats

[deft thicket]

Im so fucking sure that they will implement in game the same tokens as s4 sl that we can get fyralath this way... If they do it it will be lame

[royal oxide]

Sub creation is like mostly popularity

[somber elk]

What keys you Play ?

[strong tusk]

Does outlaw do good dmg ? Never been able to play it

[deft thicket]

Yeah

[oblique trail]

Yes

[bitter fable]

ik ik 😅
just subcreation being a source i know

[clever path]

Was it possible for huntar bow in sl?

[bitter fable]

atm 22s

[royal oxide]

Yes

[clever path]

Looool

[somber elk]

Ok, youll experience it later

[deft thicket]

I dont remember as i didnt olay much s4 sl but i think yes! Every bis was available

[clever path]

Was it hard to get those tokens ?

Never played fated

Quit in korthia

[royal oxide]

Nope just had to get the bow first

[modest condor]

afaik hunters needed to loot the bow manually

[ebon hemlock]

yo guys. If mast=vers>crit>haste. why wafting on both weapons?

[modest condor]

you could only get the upgrade tokens

[bitter fable]

you just had to clear x amount of bosses per week if i remember

[clever path]

Oh i thought BUY legendary with token

Nvm then

[deft thicket]

Just time consuming not hard

[bitter fable]

true poor choice of words there

[royal oxide]

I think you could buy the bow of you wanted to waste 2dinar

[strong tusk]

What’s the strongest melee outside of rogue for raid

[royal oxide]

Havoc

[bitter fable]

DH

yh

[clever path]

No one talks about BM hunters anymore

[hard widget]

Where did u get this from kekw

[clever path]

Ain’t they still up there in the big leagues

[deft thicket]

It was fotm..i believe

[royal oxide]

They got nerfed a bit

[bitter fable]

subcreation

[royal oxide]

Still strong but not demo lock strong

[strong tusk]

Outside rogue and DH lol

[royal oxide]

You asking numbers wise?

[strong tusk]

Yee

[bitter fable]

enchance brobly or paladin

[oblique trail]

Are you just disregarding Fury or wat

lol

[soft palm]

++++++++++9+

+--+

[strong tusk]

No I’m asking about all outside DH and rogue

lol

Numbers wise

[royal oxide]

Should go sub, outlaw,havoc, assassin, fury iirc

Survival hunter is on par with fury warrior for DPS. Been seeing those two jocky for a while

[ebon hemlock]

If mast=vers>crit>haste. why wafting on both weapons? (please)

[oblique trail]

because all stats for Fury is very close to each other, Mast/Vers just has higher value

But you're also in very high DR ranges of Mast/Vers, compared to Haste

[somber elk]

Bc sim says it

[oblique trail]

With this said, the easy answer is just: It sims the best

[clever path]

Survival hunter is very fun tbf ngl

[clever belfry]

this is so fucking cap rofl

[dapper goblet]

[clever path]

Vote season 1

[somber elk]

S1 votes are wasted Right now, vote s2

[clever path]

I’ll devour you whole

[sullen cloak]

can i just double check something with the Fyr'alath axe......

The dot doesn't seem to work on less than 6 targets...is that right?

[oblique trail]

It works on any target amount

[sullen cloak]

ok....just mever seems to pop up as a dps ability when on low volume trash packs

[cursive ridge]

If packs are dying fast ya it’s not great you’ll have to scroll a bit

It’s usually about 6-9% overall for me at end of key depending on pull size

[tacit crag]

They can't live high keys

[amber arch]

hmm still no

[tacit crag]

In m+ there's only ever probably one guaranteed melee spot just to have the faster kick in the group and usually melee have aoe stops. That spot goes to DH right now, but it's not impossible to do keys on warrior and it's not impossible to pug

If you push your own key you will have a lot more success.

[gilded pawn]

There’s 2

Rogue

[tacit crag]

Rogues are not taken all the time

[worldly shard]

got 483branch/483cataclysmic/489rezan/489might+avoidance/489ember of nullification in my invie rn

as trinket collection

[tacit crag]

Even in the top keys ever done there's no rogues

[worldly shard]

now only need the fyrak trink

big D versa

[tacit crag]

Your crit is so high, do you have phial on?

[worldly shard]

ye

[tacit crag]

ah

My stats are the same but my crit is like 9% lower I was so confused lol

[compact knot]

what stat do i need more of (lvl 15 fury warrior)

[arctic copper]

you need more lvl

[near crypt]

[oak panther]

can recklessness and avatar be used at the same time with a macro?

[eternal sundial]

ye

[compact knot]

sometimes you dont want to use them at the same time though

but you can yes

[worldly shard]

is it better to kill normal fyrak first?

use greater ember

then kill heroic

[eternal sundial]

doesnt matter

[jovial urchin]

Yes

[edgy widget]

they can, but you won't generally use them together that way in Season 3

[sullen cloak]

Arch...can i ask where you think the best place to use Fyr'alath in a single boss raid encounter is?

I assume after main cooldowns have run off as it isnt buffed?

[jolly mist]

yes

[edgy widget]

whenever it won't get you killed

See the pins for more context (4th one or so)

[sullen cloak]

ok thats a shame got it this morning and was hoping it might stack with cooldowns like draught of souls did

Thank you

[jolly mist]

that wouldve been too good

[sullen cloak]

I assume using it is an overall dps increase though over standard rotation?

[red yew]

You can thank Draught for making blizz prevent class modifiers from working on trinkets

[oblique trail]

Yes, using the weapon is still an increase over not using it

Just like the pins which Archi referred to mentions

[eternal sundial]

theres a super convenient use on council

during wind on bear

[sullen cloak]

yes i have had a read.. suppose there is an element of stunned disappointment lol

[oblique trail]

The on-use part of the weapon just isn't super massive for Fury, not only because the damage it does isn't out of this world, but Fury also constantly wants to press buttons

[sullen cloak]

For me it feels like something that would be well used after pull and main cooldowns/ opener.

I can keep mobility and positioning and opening DPS rotation and then pop once avatar is of

yes i was thinking that I am 488 ivlv now and dps has escalated quite significantly prior to axe and i was thinking opener with Hero/ Bl....how many Ramapage/ Blood casts am I going to loose if i pop axe effect

[eternal sundial]

im yet to kill myself with it but itll happen

[fierce star]

im 45 what level u think i can get someone to help me get thrash blade

[red yew]

⛈️ NOW

[oblique trail]

Idk but I'd consider asking in https://discord.gg/RbCZJtw since this sounds like a classic question to me

[oblique trail]

And Fight Club is better suited for classic than Skyhold

[red yew]

YOOOOOO THAT PIC GOES HARD

[eternal sundial]

[open prairie]

man

timewalking fury is….funny

running cshb talent and azerite

[wild mural]

Pile On?

[oblique trail]

Idk what Pile On has to do with Classic or Fight Club but yes

Pile On

[wild mural]

No me neither

I’m drunk

Pile on

[dapper goblet]

vote season 2

[open prairie]

voting season 2 fury and ret

[slim coral]

make sure you guys sabotage shaman

so xeos can't play it

[open prairie]

which spec

[slim coral]

enhancement

[open prairie]

i need my totem

[slim coral]

I'll give you all the totems

[keen kindle]

Please don't

[slim coral]

I gotta do it

gotta get xeox and vil back

next is rogue

[wild mural]

Real

[wild mural]

I need my wind fury bitch ours quit

[open prairie]

we might have 2

[burnt stone]

Season 4 voting result was T31?
Didn’t everyone hate Anni?

[open prairie]

i dont think vil has played warr

since he quit liquid

hasnt he

[sick viper]

bro I thought anni was dope pre season 1

[olive wraith]

No leggo no Aug this week

Surely next week

[open prairie]

i’ve seen lfr augury

like twice

[keen kindle]

I've seen norm augury a lot

Never won and never will

[open prairie]

we never saw hc aug

yet a dozen tank trinkets

[olive wraith]

Every week I clear every difficulty fyrak (not myth obv)

And never see Aug

[open prairie]

some guy got the lfr one as healer

[slim coral]

time to bring him back

we need our boys

[calm mantle]

I hate seeing my bis stuff on roll and rolling a 50 :c fuck this game.

[slim coral]

don't fret my friend

you still have 2 months

and then you can farm it again in fated

[calm mantle]

I need it now D: I wanna be one of those chad warriors.

[open prairie]

tbh i’d rather have pl in pugs

[unique frigate]

Ive seen augury drop twice, once in hc, lost it with 92 roll, then after that went to lfr and won it with 100 roll 😅

[charred hawk]

hope they do it like the Bow in SoD

[open prairie]

and only group loot in organized runs

[slim coral]

pl?

[open prairie]

personal in pugs

ml in guild raid

[charred hawk]

I wonder if the fated season will be like Shadowlands.

[slim coral]

what is ml

I'm so lost

[charred hawk]

master loot

[slim coral]

oh

[covert blaze]

deez nuts

[slim coral]

I dont really care about loot tbh

I just like killing bosses

unless it's m+

[calm mantle]

I like killing stuff as well, but I like seeing myself at top or charts

[slim coral]

then I want the loot so I can stop repeating the same key

[covert blaze]

why are you playing this spec then

[calm mantle]

I just wish mythic gear wasn't so RNG. Like I guess you can Mythic raid for more chances but that requires a group.

[covert blaze]

[keen kindle]

because fury is actually decent

At least he's not saying "I like seeing myself at the top or on charts" as arms

[calm mantle]

Because even on this spec I can out dps the apes who play meta classes but suck and laugh at them in FURY

[slim coral]

I mean anyone playing warrior rn instead of meta just enjoys toture and I'm one of em

I should be playing mage for pugging keys but I hate myself

[sudden tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/432236071749681181/1172584506604138597/Frieren_4ada34_11055472.gif

of it said sim

oops

[slim coral]

banned

[sudden tusk]

i wish not ill upon the phil man

[slim coral]

[calm mantle]

Bruh pugging keys as warrior is a different kind of torture. I hit 3072 IO on my warrior and that was a struggle. I spent like 30% of my time just trying to get in keys.

[slim coral]

yeah I'm pugging 28s rn

it's hour queues

lol

[calm mantle]

Oh god :c

[slim coral]

honestly it's not even becuase of meta

it's mostly becuase people want lust

and warrior doesnt have that

[calm mantle]

and drums just won't cut it.

[sudden tusk]

there are just no 28s on the market rn

[slim coral]

look at queue finder you will see me

[calm mantle]

EWW

It's EB as well.

[sudden tusk]

my 28 is doable at least

[slim coral]

aerith said she would get a group together for this but I'm not sure if we can time either way

[olive wraith]

Do you guys hold your 3rd avatar for last phase fyrakk

[oblique trail]

I just kinda slam Avatar on CD on him

And parse 99 on HC

So it must work

[final birch]

dont forget it's also dependant on kill timers

if you only have to hold like 15 sec that's diff than holding for 40 sec

[oblique trail]

I do it regardless of the kill timer really

[final birch]

most of the time, so do I

[oblique trail]

Unless for some insane reason we're just about to phase into P3

Then I wont

[fallen pivot]

How much better is might over mirror?

[keen kindle]

Quite a bit

For keys specfically you'd realistically get more value out of it

[covert blaze]

mirror bad

[keen kindle]

Mirrior you'd feel bad if you wasted it or if you had to hold it for a larger pull

[keen kindle]

yes But consider this

Might dosen't fucking exist

[covert blaze]

wym

[keen kindle]

This post made by a salty mofo

Yes, it's this late in the season and I don't have might

Makes me wonna cry lol

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[gray turtle]

im new to fury warrior and feel like in m+ im running out of things to press after odyns fury bloodbath and rampage wirlwind what am i doing wrong?

[olive wraith]

Are you weaving in bt every other gcd

And are you pressing slam

[gray turtle]

whats bt

[oblique trail]

Bloodthirst

[olive wraith]

Bloodthirst

[gray turtle]

yea

[meager void]

Bloodthirst

[gray turtle]

slam no thats one to weave in?

[sullen dove]

Bloodthirst

[olive wraith]

We press slam now

As a filler

[gray turtle]

ok ty

[modest condor]

bloodthirst

[meager void]

an answer is:
follow wowhead prio BUT force BTs every other GCD...
...unless its within CDs where you again fully follow prio.

[gray turtle]

ill go check it out thanks trying to get into keys only doing like 150k overall

[clever path]

Imagine not having a 489 might and 489 rezans

[keen kindle]

Imagine not having a 489 of evrey single good trinket

[past pivot]

Imagine not having an 489 Augury and 483 Signet and not needing a Rezan

[sullen dove]

imagine not having 489 signet

[modest condor]

489 augury, 483 signet and 489 might gang

[nova garnet]

496 augury when

[olive wraith]

Imagine

[clever path]

Got those too

[clever path]

Rezan better for fights sub 4 min

[warm crag]

@covert blaze ya zhai ya zhai ya zhai ya thief you play warlock behind our back ya snitch

[olive wraith]

Does pips not show the uptime for the proc?

[summer quail]

it does, there's 3 separate buffs tho

[covert blaze]

that was top 5 random schizo moments

[oblique trail]

@warm crag ya spongie ya spongie ya spongie ya thief you play rogue behind your back ya snitch

[bronze kelp]

is it a waste to use 4 sparks on 2 weapons on an fresh 70 alt? Ran all LFR and sadly no luck on weps

[warm crag]

its probably fine at this point in the season

i would only craft 1 tho tbh

[bronze kelp]

fair. I also couldn't figure out how many whole sparks we've gotten so far, 5 or 6 total?

[covert blaze]

I would recommend crafting embellishments + at least 1 ring and then use the rest on whatever

[olive wraith]

Weird details isn’t showing the procs

Just the passive stat bonus

[heavy folio]

i havent seen one 483 trinket in the vault for 9 weeks

[north edge]

3 hours in lfg havent seen a single invite

i list my own key up and theres no one signing up either

[past pivot]

Ember with legendary imo

[clever path]

Does it sim better?

Cause i got a 483 ember with lego

My vers is already pretty stupid at like 30% or somethi by

[plucky patio]

im a fury warrior so obviously im stupid but the wowhead guide says to use bloodbath and i cant find that shit anywhere

[young swan]

its not in the spell book

[clever path]

Its what by turns into when you ramp

[young swan]

its what bloodthirst turns into after pressing rampage when talented into reckless abandon

[plucky patio]

fkadjhf;kasjhg;lkSADJG

ty

and just so im sure i can take annhilator off my bars?

[terse flame]

Yeah you can

unless you wanna stare at it

[plucky patio]

ill just put the icon for raging blow in the center of my screen to remember the good times

p much just replace that button with slam though huh

[clever path]

Did it happen

Did s2 win in the USA too?

[terse flame]

S2 is 38%

i had to level a char to 10 on NA so i could see the vote...

OMG s1 arms winning too

[past pivot]

It does sim quite well. And there’s no proc so it’s static mainstat and vers. I have like 25.5% so your mileage may vary but leggo seems to like lots of it.

[clever path]

It’s opposite on eu kek

[slim pollen]

Buuu

[terse flame]

EU

[plucky patio]

Im confusion

Why is the wowhead spec using slaughtering strikes

[clever path]

You can use either ss or bloodcraze

Bloodcraze seems to sim better tho

And gives more frequent cries on BT / BB in theory

[plucky patio]

bet, ty

[molten relic]

I personally use ss in m+

But never bothered to try blood craze tbh

[olive wraith]

I think ss is technically better pure dps since bloodcraze is basically blp for crits

In an aoe scenario you most likely only getting 1-2 stacks of bloodcraze unless you’re ridiculously unlucky

[calm mantle]

Once again I cry because a tank got lego in my raid...

[molten relic]

Tough

I got mine 2 weeks ago now and we haven’t seen another in the last 2 clears

With 9 eligible

[calm mantle]

it's so sad to see pally tanks drop it.

[olive wraith]

Arms is pretty damn good for when the tank dies

Pop defensive parry everything

[summer quail]

slaughtering is so garbage with annihilator

[oblique trail]

For AoE Slaughtering will be slightly better, but BC just gives you way more value in ST

And the occasional unlucky streaks in AoE will be less

[plucky patio]

so for the new tier set do i wait for the first gushing to fall off before reapplying or just go ham with BT?

[summer quail]

just go ham

you don't play around cshb

[plucky patio]

is there another debuff or buff thats new that i should be tracking here or thats about it?

[hearty surge]

You can play around a bit in m+ by using bt on different targets

same with execute

so more targets get cshb

But thats very minor, only do it when you dont lose out on anything else

[cosmic lance]

off targets can get cshb from ww bt casts

[plucky patio]

got it, so it seems like that only things i really need to "manage" is like...improved WW, avatar and reck, and just spamming BT

im rearranging weak auras

so im trying to figure out what to actually keep on them

[hearty surge]

Yes but if you target mobs that dont have cshb yet you can spread it without refreshing

your positioning in that also matters

but you dont want to constantly target swap due to frenzy

So best to use mouseover macro

also for execute snipes

which isnt so relevant this season but can be

It definitely is relevant if you also play arms

[plucky patio]

I dont play arms but a mouseover for execute would be amazing

i dont know why i never thought of that ive been tab spamming for 3 years

[hearty surge]

Tab spamming is bad because you lose frenzy if you rampage different target

which is why you kinda want to mouseover kick/stormbolt as warrior as well

Anything that makes you swap target more than necessary

or, have a weakaura that marks your last target so you know which one you hit with rampage for frenzy

or rather plater script

[plucky patio]

yeah im now realizing that ive probably dropped so many stacks

[meager void]

now that's an idea, thx for sharing

[hearty surge]

I just mouseover bt and execute targets below 35/20% health

anything else i cba tbh

[clever path]

So

Thrall was a warrior before rerolling shaman ?

[gleaming crag]

I was playing my paladin more recently and I feel like they dont have enough utility I think they need blessing of might back for the 5% attack power buff.

[olive wraith]

[edgy widget]

they're both getting pretty heavily vote manipulated at this point

the number of total votes jumped dramatically overnight

[terse flame]

shouldve just been an ingame vote i guess on a max level char..?

[cosmic lance]

I think people realised you could vote on each character

[deft geyser]

Making it so you can literally make a new character and instantly vote on it makes so little sense

Should've been per account

[cosmic lance]

That character also doesn't even have to be the same class as the poll you're voting on

[clever path]

Honestly , I did not expect for it to take such an interesting turn. I fully could foresee people just voting for Season 3 and not even taking in consideration other votes

Especially in the EU. It’s insane that after a 5 hr sleep , wake up and see that Season 2 is 20% above season 3 for example

And season 1 is at 38%

Just very shocked

[edgy widget]

if you count both NA and EU, it was always pretty close; S3 was ~1k ahead overall

But then EU gained around 3,000 votes overnight.... 🤔

[deft geyser]

Its obvious the voting is unfair at this stage

[meager void]

i consider this voting BS a cheap trick.

[olive wraith]

So s2 is ahead overall?

[terse flame]

yeah

[deft geyser]

By around 500 votes iirc

[olive wraith]

F

[frozen lake]

Is S1 transmog anywhere close

[olive wraith]

Well I hope we get solid st buffs

[deft geyser]

dc about transmog lol

[meager void]

one reason why people do focus groups is that any massive thing (like this) tends towards bias.

that the voting becomes a story in itself is a heavy bias as it is

[summer quail]

s2 tier is not weak in st

s3 is stronger sure, but s2 is not weak

[olive wraith]

It’s weaker than s3

[frozen lake]

Damn why even play the game then

[deft geyser]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[modest condor]

dps is temporary, transmog is eternal

[edgy widget]

yes it is lol

well, it is compared to S3

by a fair bit

[clever path]

Based

[deft geyser]

If we trust blizzard they will compensate

:)

[summer quail]

by how much?

i know it is weaker than s3, but idk how much

[clever path]

I could kiss you right now for saying this

I always say “The real end game , is fashion game”

[terse flame]

No, S2 Tmog is winning by abit

[sullen tendon]

i see all hte eu bot farmers are finally using their extra 200 characters

[cosmic lance]

I scaled up 4 pieces of t30 to 489 and compared that to t31- and with my gear it was a 7.5% DPS loss in ST with the appropriate talents

For what thats worth

[edgy widget]

I don't recall exactly off the top of my head, but S2 tier was like +13% or something? S3 tier is like +19%

it's a pretty pronounced difference

[sullen tendon]

6% more dam ontop of not feeling like shit to play

[deft geyser]

2nd part of your message is subjective

[summer quail]

not feeling shit to play is subjective

but ye 6-7% st is noticeable

[robust widget]

assuming S2 wins, i wonder if they are gonna buff the set up to s3/s4 standards and/or fury on its own for ST

[meager void]

cool kids hate annhi

[deft geyser]

If fury is going to be underperforming i'd like to believe they'll tune us

no cope

:)

[meager void]

annhi love is something you whisper in the corners of skyhold

[sullen tendon]

who cares about anihilator

[meager void]

see

[sullen tendon]

not having to press raging blow is the good part

[edgy widget]

just like they tuned us in Season 2, right? 🙃

[deft geyser]

exactly

[vivid moth]

I for one accept our new eu overlords

[robust widget]

[deft geyser]

just how we got tuned on january 1st

[cosmic lance]

Its been said a million times, if they could just "balance" shit we wouldn't be doubting them in the first place

[clever path]

All I know that in boosting community some dude put himself onto mindset that he is bored

But definitely not 1000 votes lol

[sullen tendon]

probably like 70% of the current votes are by people who dont even play warrior.

it sjust alt armies and casuals

[cosmic lance]

I genuinely do prefer playing AM fury, 1.5min CDs feels so not what fury was all about in previous iterations

[olive wraith]

Wonder what they plan on doing to boost st for s2

[clever path]

Just you wait till Asmongold figures it out tomorrow because it’s views

And views = $

[olive wraith]

Or do we just giga aoe and noodle st

[deft geyser]

literally could just aura buff

[midnight kite]

I like AM until I am forced off the boss

[olive wraith]

Nah can’t aura buff cause that boosts aoe too

[midnight kite]

Imagine playing that on larodar or something with the boss charging into the fire

[sullen tendon]

beast mastery hunter uses their main cooldown every 20 seconds

[deft geyser]

i mean, just tune in general

could increase rb rampage bt

and reduce ww cleave

:D

[sullen tendon]

what?

[edgy widget]

someone screengrab the EU votes for me rq (not on mobile please)

[robust widget]

using the leggo axe in s2 set already feels painful

[edgy widget]

stupid site is wiggin out again

[deft geyser]

increase their damage and reduce ww cleave

to not boost aoe...

[edgy widget]

ty

[sullen tendon]

definitely getting botted lol

[olive wraith]

I do think that the bt boost should be higher total damage

[deft geyser]

its not "botted"

[sullen tendon]

its botted

[olive wraith]

Or maybe lower the stacks needed

[deft geyser]

its people creating new characters

[modest condor]

if it was getting botted it would have significantly more than 9.5k votes

[deft geyser]

and voting with them

[sullen tendon]

you telling me 6000 votes just came out of no where over night

[deft geyser]

what the fuck do you mean 6000 votes

[sullen tendon]

4000

whatever hte number

its alot

[deft geyser]

it was like 1000

1200 at max

[sullen tendon]

it definitely wasnt

[deft geyser]

i was tracking it since the post hit wowhead

[sullen tendon]

2 days ago season 3 was winning by like 1000 votes

[deft geyser]

it wasnt definitely 4000

[sullen tendon]

season 2 set in eu only had like 2500 votes 2 days ago

season 3 had somethign like 3200

[clever path]

People came back from holidays

Started voting

[sullen tendon]

holidays?

[clever path]

[summer quail]

and 2 days ago max uploaded his video

[sullen tendon]

dude holidays have been over for 2 weeks

[clever path]

Then why the fuck my whole office was empty for 2 weeks now and counting

My boss isn’t anywhere

My German colleagues are missing

[sullen tendon]

its blizzards fault for holding the poll like this

[clever path]

Everyone is GONE

[modest condor]

zombie apocalypse

[sullen tendon]

should have either made it in game for your class or have to have a level 70 character of that class for the forms

[clever path]

Who would have thought that tier vote would be handled just as well as any political election like ever

[deft geyser]

I mean, theoretically, the best kind of voting would be for only players that have acquired all of the 3 tiersets on live servers

but thats not realistic

to track at least

and the voting would be per account then

[sullen tendon]

they dont make it per account because then the numbers would be like 500 per spec lmao

[dapper goblet]

vote season 2

[cosmic lance]

Just a max level character of that class would be sufficient

[sullen tendon]

everyone voting season 2 are going to bitching next season that our st is too low and we dont have enough aoe

[cunning rune]

its hip to be square

[dapper goblet]

🥴

[deft geyser]

so

[olive wraith]

I mean s2 had solid aoe

[deft geyser]

whats new?

[clever path]

Vote season 2

[jovial rover]

They were all meh anyway

[edgy widget]

so does S3 lol

[modest condor]

🥴 is great

[edgy widget]

People really downplay the impact of OF

[cosmic lance]

8 target sim had t30 only 3% above t31 when i ran it

[edgy widget]

The problem with S3's AoE is the cleave, not the burst AoE

[cosmic lance]

Again, grain of salt etc etc

[cunning rune]

i like 🫨 alot

[cosmic lance]

But the aoe difference isnt everything people are making out

[edgy widget]

it's really not

[olive wraith]

Targets moving kinda blows for s2 as well I guess

[cosmic lance]

You just get to press the fun buttons more often, which is a fair argument

[edgy widget]

I mean I don't think there's really any difference between Ravager and OF in that regard

[sullen tendon]

you already do that

OF has like a 20 second cooldown in aoe

[terse flame]

S3 BB/BT set critting + damage amp on everything instead of just main target

[cosmic lance]

I don't know if there's some sort of viable 1min roar/am/of build that could work

[edgy widget]

But more improtant is that people voting S2 because they think it's gonna make them meta in M+ or something

In reality though, it isn't gonna change a thing. Best case, if S2 were added today, it might push Fury up 1-2 key levels, but they're still gonna be third string push picks

And people are still gonna be coming back in here complaining that they're not getting invited to M+ after an hour of applying, not pushing at the same level as X-class, etc, just like they were complaining in S2

except Fury is also gonna be garbage in raid again, so... gg I guess

[olive wraith]

They’re clinging on to 10.1 and not 10.1.5

[hardy cargo]

I vote s2 bc I like how ramp does more damage then my builders

[deft geyser]

People always complained about not getting invited to m+ as a dps warrior

for as long as i can remember

[cosmic lance]

That won't change unless the rework warrior tbh

[olive wraith]

I can’t understand liking the spender being biggest dmg

[dapper goblet]

and AM owns

[hardy cargo]

hopefully their tuning pass just fixes this, the easiest way I think is to just build 4p stacks faster/make them more effective

[sullen tendon]

yea dude anger managmetn is so awesome

[deft geyser]

the fact is no matter if we get s3 or s2 tierset, if we dont get tuned we dont be meta anyway

[edgy widget]

yeah gl with that

[olive wraith]

Like it can still facilitate a button (bb in this season) to do damage

[sullen tendon]

i love having none of my cooldowns line up

[dapper goblet]

skill issue

unironically

play better

🥴

[edgy widget]

Fury ain't ever gonna be meta this expansion

[cosmic lance]

bind CDs to rampage, problem solved

[deft geyser]

closest thing was tgp for reflect abuse and fury's survi

[edgy widget]

unless they somehow end up completely overpowered, which is extremely unlikely

[deft geyser]

but warri doesnt have the kit to become meta

just doesnt

[olive wraith]

Just give us the DH treatment

Warriors could easily be meta

[cosmic lance]

If you do enough damage and can live the mechanics, you'll be meta enough

[olive wraith]

Make meat cleaver 100%

Boom meta

[edgy widget]

there are plenty of tuning knobs

I'm just sayin, people voting S2 because they think they're somehow gonna be great in M+ are in for a very rude awakening when literally nothing changes

[summer quail]

If we did a ton more damage than any other spec we would be meta. Simple as that

[deft geyser]

I mean, anything that gets "destro locked" will be meta obviously

[summer quail]

Enough numbers and any spec can be meta

[sullen tendon]

this is the kind of people i think of when i think of eu

[deft geyser]

you do you buddy

[olive wraith]

What does he mean by the defensive bit

I can’t think of anything

[inland flame]

That you would often have big gaps in using BT

With S2

[deft geyser]

not being able to use BT with ER

or at all in general

[inland flame]

Yeah for ER

[sullen tendon]

you literally just press it

[inland flame]

But it would be a dps loss.

[deft geyser]

dps loss > dead dps

[inland flame]

Over Ramp or RB

[sullen tendon]

the tier set is a dps loss

[olive wraith]

How long is ER?

[inland flame]

Well now we get into the whole they're gonna rebalance it thing which I know everyone doesn't trust, but it is true that you lose a little dam using ER S2

Just it obviously doesn't matter when you need to use ER

I do admit I really miss doing back-to-back Ramps in S2 tho

[olive wraith]

You could press bt 3 times in er

Isn’t it 20% of 3% your max health

For pressing bt while er is active

[cosmic lance]

no its additive

[inland flame]

Adds 20 to the 3 it already does so 23

[olive wraith]

Woah that’s better than I thought

[sullen tendon]

it would be really funny if season 2 wins and its tuned and then its better to keep playing the anihilator OF build becuase of it

[olive wraith]

So pick s3

Obvious choice

[cosmic lance]

between ER and IV you can heal a full HP bar in like 3 globals

[sinful spoke]

thats 3 globals of dps

that u lose

[olive wraith]

Bt isn’t a dps loss for s3

[sullen dove]

literally impossible unless they complete remove it from being building up bt/bb

[inland flame]

Don't forget that S3 buffs OF by 50%. Almost no way we'd use it S4 with S2 bonus.

[sullen dove]

get 25% more damage every bb and like.. 10% more crit rate

[sullen tendon]

[inland flame]

It would be a pretty bad button again.

[olive wraith]

We used it s1 without buffs

[sullen tendon]

remove raging blow

[sullen dove]

aside from damage numbers of talents anni is just in direct conflict with s2 tier

[sullen tendon]

raging blow sucks

boring button

does nothing

procs itself

wannabe stormstrike

[deft geyser]

[dapper goblet]

🥴

[young swan]

rb would be fine if it did meaningful damage itself