yes ur rotation is
#fury
sullen tendon
also bloodthirst actually interacts with talents like gushing wounds
youre not just pressing it for rage build
your pressing it for 4 other things
clever path
it was way less than 20 seconds
runic pine
you might not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
sullen tendon
cshb is like a 5 second dot
clever path
with the rage gen u had
runic pine
fishing hat=90s
clever path
then what is your suggestion how to fix raging blow spam
sullen tendon
again i dont understand the logic behind season 2 bloodthirst being better than season 3 in any aspect
runic pine
because it's not
clever path
its not
sullen tendon
exactly
clever path
no one said it was
sullen tendon
so why do people like season 2 set so much
regal falcon
The issue is people dont want to play Anni
sullen tendon
its a bunch of maintenance for not enough reward
runic pine
because they think it was better in M+ and they like AM
clever path
The issue is people dont want to play Anni
not at all
ashen socket
rAvAgEr and Am
clever path
anger management is infinitely better
even if s3 does the same amount of damage
s2 feels much better to play
clever path
wow going into a pack with odyns fury im sure its gonna do a lot
in raid i prefer s3
sullen tendon
OF does more overall than ravager did lol
runic pine
it kinda is
clever path
ravager didnt just
give u 5 full bars of rage
in a single cast
and 30% str
for 6 seconds
sullen tendon
also my favorite part about AM build is when you throw anhilator out and your tank moves the pack out of it
really awesome
clever path
a bit more actually its 6s on 30%
runic pine
6 seconds of 30% str
sullen tendon
ravager*
runic pine
crazy
clever path
vs several extra 4?5? seconds of avatar which is flat 20% damage
of a bb that does 70k to secondary targets
insane
sullen tendon
season 3 is better in every aspect
smoother rotation
smother gameplay
better ST
better AoE
no ravager
clever path
keep baiting
clever path
charging without reck and hoping ur bt enrages u is very fun as well
sullen tendon
yea dude I love waiting around for 20 seconds to do a 150k Bt crit
???
OF enrages you
clever path
dancing blades is objectively better
sullen tendon
theres so many different ways you can enrage yourself
clever path
you dont play
titanic rage
in m+
you play db for more st/prio damage
since thats the only thing u do
might as well be better at it
sullen tendon
how are you not staying enraged
clever path
its not about staying enraged
its about not having rage to rampage on pull on packs where u have no reck
clever path
u dont play fresh meat and u dont play titanic rage
sullen tendon
you dont have it off the bat
clever path
keep baiting
hearty surge
Fresh meat good
clever path
true
sullen tendon
you complain about these things when you can easily just talent into them if you want to
no one is forcing you to play anihilator in season 3
nothing in the tier set interacts with anihilator
hearty surge
Bro is mental
clever path
and do 90k st
sullen tendon
it doesnt lol
olive wraith
Not useless but def not as good as a focal point of the tier should be
hearty surge
Honestly all fury builds this expansion were just monotonous
fiery harbor
did s1 run any cdr
amber arch
What build do I play for M+ if I just boosted and dont have tier yet? T29 or T30?
hearty surge
idk if any played better than the other for me tbh
hearty surge
What build do I play for M+ if I just boosted and dont have tier yet? T29 or T30...
t29 until 4pc then t30
clever path
onslaught got buffed as well
fiery harbor
am didnt affect ravager in 10.0
oh rip
olive wraith
T30 is season 2
clever path
or maybe it was both
olive wraith
Os did too I think
clever path
prob i dont rember
hearty surge
Oh yeh I dont remember tier numbers i dont care
hearty surge
unpopular opinion I dont care which set we play in season 4
olive wraith
Is that eu?
hearty surge
both are fine and play nice
red berry
i honestly just wish we could chose between the three
clever path
ye eu
hearty surge
just hope we do better in m+
hearty surge
i honestly just wish we could chose between the three
Yeh but thats way too much effort
olive wraith
Ideally that would be amazing
abstract leaf
@sullen tendon S3 is definitely not better in every aspect
sour frigate
Honestly all fury builds this expansion were just monotonous
like every other expansion u just have to build and rampage
clever path
its like saying rogues are monotonous cause they build combo points then spend them
wow no shit
abstract leaf
You can legit play the season 2 build with season 3 tier set, completely disregarding the set bonus and you'll do close to the same aoe dps as with the season 3 build. Your st will suffer more though
sour frigate
sullen tendon
abstract leaf
Aoe in season 3 is ass
sour frigate
You can legit play the season 2 build with season 3 tier set, completely disrega...
true i was doing so
olive wraith
You can legit play the season 2 build with season 3 tier set, completely disrega...
This just in. S2 was more about rav/am than the actual tier
clever path
doing less than vdh in mass aoe is good guys
fringe flame
doesn't matter if s2 is better for m+, it's not like warriors gonna get invited to keys
clever path
good aoe 👍
abstract leaf
@olive wraith That doesn't take anything away from my point though
olive wraith
S3 is weaker aoe
clever path
This just in. S2 was more about rav/am than the actual tier
ye it had nothing to do with the tier actually
abstract leaf
It's not significantly stronger in ST
olive wraith
It is
abstract leaf
But it's significantly worse in AoE
sour frigate
But significantly strong st
yet other specs even stronger st
hearty surge
Nah % wise it is not
olive wraith
You got that backwards bruh
olive wraith
I do remember
hearty surge
we got set first in s2 because it was so good
olive wraith
S3 is strong st
hearty surge
it was close to the best set st
abstract leaf
If you think season 2 didn't have really good st, you weren't really playing the game
olive wraith
It was mid st
clever path
fury pre aug had one of the best st in m+
abstract leaf
Season 3 ST might be a bit better, but not by miles
clever path
it was mid late into the season
cause everyone else got buffed/reworked
and we got nothing
hearty surge
Warrior also has good aoe profile for raid fights
its just that the damage profile sucks for m+
olive wraith
Arms is good aoe rn
clever path
he said in raid
sour frigate
Arms is
gentle terrace
Is there a way to run heroic murozond rise alone without queuing up into LFG and without clearing the first 4 bosses? I want the gorehowl transmog lamo
sour frigate
U pick aoe or st
hearty surge
Yes but it does damage
clever path
yes but those 2 abilities do significantly more damage
hearty surge
Nah lol
olive wraith
Rend is the true aoe
sour frigate
fuck it roll fdk
clever path
too bad all the aoe is burst aoe
olive wraith
Currently at least
clever path
tindral roots larodar adds igira spears
noble elm
Damage profile is fine for aoe we’re just target capped
clever path
all die in no time
noble elm
Can’t compete with uncapped aoe
clever path
Damage profile is fine for aoe we’re just target capped
its an arms discussion
in fury channel as per usual
clever path
fury takes a very little hit for running ww/roar compared to arms running warbreaker
hearty surge
thats why fury is good on fyrakk
abstract leaf
Even OF isn't really great for AoE. It's fine for burst but some people really overestimate its damage
hearty surge
but sucks in m+
sour frigate
Can’t compete with uncapped aoe
Even with capped like rogue 🙂
abstract leaf
It's good for like 10 sec
noble elm
You can at specific timings
Please give me an example where a warrior can compete with an uncapped aoe class
clever path
its good on stuff like roots since they die in its dot window or slightly longer depending on group
clever path
Please give me an example where a warrior can compete with an uncapped aoe class
there is none
we lose to vdh
hearty surge
fury is insanely good on fyrakk
abstract leaf
Fyrakk is the only really good example for raid
hearty surge
I literally said that
noble elm
Fury is only good on fyrakk if you have shitty dps
hearty surge
No its not
clever path
if revvez was barely on the meters
abstract leaf
In m+ it's dog unless you only play up to like +25 keys
clever path
rip everyoine else
molten relic
fury is good if ur the best player in ur raid on fyrakk
molten relic
if u have 15 95th percentile blasters
hearty surge
thats with rogues getting aug buffed
molten relic
fury prob not on top
hearty surge
That is not true
noble elm
If your ranged is great then your boomies and your hunters are gonna truck adds before you even get them grouped to kill them
clever path
Revvez was like 3rd place on first kill
he wasnt
he was like 5th or 6th
and he was significantly behind the ones above
i love when people complain about not having aoe then vote for s3 tierset
molten relic
late patch CE mfs
sure
but it proves the same point
if mf is blasting
and rest are not
fury will be okay
if all are gaming
fury gonna just be mid
like it always is
hearty surge
Bro
molten relic
fluid cedar
welp got a hero track signet with leech so my rezans is useless lol
fluid cedar
ive been trinket rich last 2 patches
clever path
welp got a hero track signet with leech so my rezans is useless lol
its not
on shorter fights rezans is better
signet is a ramping trinket
half willow
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fghZ3C82TqB6r7j1#fight=35&type=damage-done
wth even my arms warrior can do more dam than that on fyrakk 
olive wraith
I haven’t looted Aug or brand on any difficulty
hearty surge
@molten relic https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Tc32RnB1vZaxLKXW#fight=61&type=damage-done there is 8 people parsing 95+
yet I do dmg
hows that possible?
abstract leaf
Fury has a very good damage profile on fyrakk
it might not be the best spec there but saying it's mediocre is absurd
runic pine
of a bb that does 70k to secondary targets
See the thing is, I don't see anything that took a massive hit to overall % of damage in logs in M+ except for ramp which is completely nullified by the gains of BT/BB....
abstract leaf
People also say season 3 set is good for m+ because it has good aoe; doesn't really matter, right
half willow
well yeah...because you were boosting thats why you could still do big dam while everyone else was also doing big dam lol
abstract leaf
It's just opinions
runic pine
molten relic
<@369135767748083714> https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Tc32RnB1vZaxLKXW#figh...
I mean
noble elm
its only because other people do no dmg
your boomy
runic pine
like wow ramp dropped half of its overall
molten relic
fury cranks in long fights
noble elm
like literally none of your hunters or boomies did damage to adds
runic pine
and BT/BB gained a shit ton
noble elm
if the adds died quick your dps would be way lower
noble elm
no one is saying fury is bad but you are conflating "i am great" with "fury is great" and that is objectively false
molten relic
posting a sale run with a 9min fight
runic pine
So I don't see this argument that S2 was better in M+
molten relic
is not an accurate representation of fury performance lol
abstract leaf
@runic pine ravager did uncapped damage + gave you ~30% increased strength. Not to mention that you played AM, which was insanely high uptime on reck and ravager. And like you said, Rampage took a big hit
half willow
and Ravager makes up less % of overall than OF
ye but you have it up very often+hurricane buff
hearty surge
Fury is objectively above average on that fight
noble elm
with massive amounts of data
molten relic
Fury is good on Fyrakk yes
abstract leaf
@runic pine Not uncapped but softcapped
molten relic
and our cds line up nicely
noble elm
with which we could form unbiased opinions
runic pine
@abstract leaf @half willow you are discounting the avatar uptime from OF.....
and point to hurricane which is less damage than avatar
hearty surge
no one is saying fury is bad but you are conflating "i am great" with "fury is g...
Thats exactly what the guy has been saying
he literally said fury is only good when other classes players suck
how is that not just as biased?
noble elm
thats fair
young swan
no its not lmfao
half willow
OF isnt good right now because of avatar uptime though lol
young swan
fury is objectively good on fyrakk
hearty surge
I never said fury was the best
runic pine
OF isnt good right now because of avatar uptime though lol
that's not what I said......
hearty surge
I said fury was good in raid
molten relic
I said youd be #1 on fyrakk if ur better than the people who are playing better classes
hearty surge
which it is
molten relic
and then u posted a sale log
with a 9min fight
with 20 mfs that didnt even touch the adds
runic pine
You can't say "oh but ravager brought hurricane" and ignore the fact that OF brings more Avatar which has a larger damage amp than Str does
molten relic
I also never said fury is bad on fyrakk
hearty surge
You said
if everyone is blasting
fury is mid
which is just not true
its above average
abstract leaf
@runic pine Season 2 build actually gave you higher uptime on avatar than season 3 build does, due to Berserker's torment
noble elm
fury's performance on fyrakk is highly reliant on how well adds are gathered and how long they live
half willow
that's not what I said......
not really tbh, you have more uptime on the str buff and you had high uptime on avatar because of AM+reck
noble elm
if adds die quick or have shit gather you're gonna do nothing
hearty surge
You forget
runic pine
<@133532617940140032> Season 2 build actually gave you higher uptime on avatar t...
Either way the numbers just aren't there lol
noble elm
if adds gather quick you're gonna destroy
runic pine
not really tbh, you have more uptime on the str buff and you had high uptime on ...
AM doesn't touch avatar?
young swan
if adds die quick or have shit gather you're gonna do nothing
yeah literally cap
fury is just good
runic pine
AM only touches avatar for Prot afaik
abstract leaf
What do you mean? Berserker's torment makes it so that recklessness pops avatar
clever path
ye
abstract leaf
So you had avatar like 40-50% of a run in s2
noble elm
go find me a 95+ log where the fury warrior didn't have a bunch of add damage
hearty surge
Ok
abstract leaf
I'm not sure how you can comment on the strengths and weaknesses of seasonal builds if you don't even know how they work though
runic pine
regardless of buff uptime
half willow
you would have like 35% uptime on avatar, like 60-70% reck uptime and like 20%+ uptime on hurricane in s2...now compare that to this season lol
noble elm
I agree they're good just some people saying they're like god tier and that aint true
runic pine
the literal %'s don't add up
clever path
See the thing is, I don't see anything that took a massive hit to overall % of d...
i dont think i play the same game as people who want to play s3 in m+
dense elbow
If we talking Reck/am/rav, you would take the side option that gives Ava on Reck. What is the discussion? 
runic pine
I just think some people are babies and can't not play AM
abstract leaf
@clever path It's people doing +20s and are able to do more damage than other specs in the group due to the timings of odyn's fury dots
Let them play a +28 and they'll see
runic pine
a 1.5m fixed CD is not that bad
Wild, I wasn't aware I had to do 28s instead of 25s to have an opinion
half willow
people are babies because they like having a superior damage profile for keys? Weird lol
noble elm
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fjHLFncZ3q8M4JKm#fight=40&type=damage-done
ok technically correct but thats a 10 minute fight so lol
clever path
i love being in a 28 eb and losing to vengeance in uncapped i love watching critcake do a 30 brh and lose to vengeance in uncapped
hearty surge
ok technically correct but thats a 10 minute fight so lol
its mythic
how are you gonna get a 10 minute
or rather
lower fight time
in mythic?
abstract leaf
It's not even the fact that Avatar is a 1.5m CD. It's that combined with the fact that OF doesn't even do great damage for being your only source of uncapped damage (outside of roar) + the fact that the empowered BT/BB from 2set doesn't even cleave
runic pine
i love being in a 28 eb and losing to vengeance in uncapped i love watching crit...
you'd still lose with S2 build and tier
upper hatch
question: should i follow the wowhead talent build? I put a point in Annihilator and lost Raging Blow
Still leveling, if that helps
runic pine
It's not even the fact that Avatar is a 1.5m CD. It's that combined with the fac...
it literally does more damage than ravager....
half willow
you'd still lose with S2 build and tier
your point is....?
sour frigate
Still leveling, if that helps
it doesnt matter at all then
abstract leaf
The 2set not cleaving is arguably the biggest issue that fury has right now for m+. Not doing insanely uncapped AoE is fine, but at least the 5 target cleave would be really good
hearty surge
ok technically correct but thats a 10 minute fight so lol
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BJ8hN91cTRLMd6KD#fight=43&type=damage-done how about this one?
It has 2 warriors in there
runic pine
your point is....?
using (lack of class) tuning as your basis for not liking a set is silly
upper hatch
it doesnt matter at all then
ah thanks. What about when I hit max?
hearty surge
without legendary
sour frigate
ah thanks. What about when I hit max?
should stick to it yes
upper hatch
should stick to it yes
rip raging blow, I guess?
sour frigate
rip raging blow, I guess?
why not
runic pine
The 2set not cleaving is arguably the biggest issue that fury has right now for ...
sounds like an easy fix
robust widget
without legendary
huh, both have legendary
runic pine
granted, blizz would have to do something
but then again they'd have to do something if we had s2 build/set too so
abstract leaf
They most likely won't
hearty surge
huh, both have legendary
Oh yeh, sorry linked the wrong one
hearty surge
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2PZHVjFaNRmWfdJk#fight=23&type=damage-done wanted to link this one
was a 99 at the time
with guild reclear
6:35
also no add dmg
half willow
using (lack of class) tuning as your basis for not liking a set is silly
no the point is, s2's damage profile is literally just better for keys. Whats better about s3 set? You have a bit stronger ST(s2's St was still very good), and you have a bit stronger burst..? Really great trade off for doing far less sustain damage and having CDs up very frequently with s2 set, which is important for many mechanics (like brackhide totems)
runic pine
no the point is, s2's damage profile is literally just better for keys. Whats be...
better in what regard?
better for not doing boss damage?
better for not doing prio damage?
runic pine
S2 boss damage was shit
abstract leaf
??
runic pine
in M+
half willow
????????
runic pine
no it wasn't
half willow
youre giga cooked lmao
abstract leaf
This guy has to be trolling
abstract leaf
Yeah, 170k+ dps on bosses in m+ in s2 was definitely not good
runic pine
??
hearty surge
can you link me a log of someone doing 170k dps on a boss in s2
runic pine
fr
hearty surge
in a key higher than 25
dense elbow
Spell reflects did add a lot during tyra
hearty surge
Oh yeh
dense elbow
Last boss nelth perhaps?
dense elbow
DPS is DPS
runic pine
reflect is agnostic of which set is better for st lmao
dense elbow
Sure, but he said during s2
runic pine
it's pretty undeniable s3 is just leaps ahead better for boss damage
dense elbow
Ye, was kinda grim
runic pine
yeah ARMS
marsh dock
Anyone know roughly how much the legendary would cost to craft if you buy all the mats nowadays? has it gone up or down? Is it still around 1 mil dpending on your server
dense elbow
Around 250k
hearty surge
I know I know
jade cipher
Guys can i ask a rotation question about fury
modest condor
and s2 boss damage wasn't good
bro was playing a different game
hearty surge
I thought we already established that the guy is smoking something
marsh dock
Around 250k
ohhh really?! that's great news
modest condor
fury was like top 3 boss damage in m+
half willow
if s2 boss damage wasnt good then youre smoking something good lmao
marsh dock
i thought i wouldnt be getting the legendary this expansion lol
abstract leaf
No n, you're smoking @modest condor It was very bad
jade cipher
during recklesness, if u are lusted and generating hella amaount of rage do oyu spam rampage to dump it and use bloodbath later
abstract leaf
modest condor
during recklesness, if u are lusted and generating hella amaount of rage do oyu ...
no you still use every bloodbath
jade cipher
or do you just go rampage bloodbath
hearty surge
fury was like top 3 boss damage in m+
I mean yeah, fury boss dmg was good in m+ but well didnt make up for everything else
sour frigate
or do you just go rampage bloodbath
RA doesnt stack so u want to drop it fast
abstract leaf
The aoe was also miles better than season 3's @hearty surge
hearty surge
Yes aoe profile was better
abstract leaf
The ST was about the same, relatively speaking
hearty surge
But it doesnt matter really what fury needs isnt more uncapped aoe
jade cipher
with my logic it was my bloodbath is not going anywhre but i'm losing on rampages here with this amount of regenratioon
hearty surge
its stronger power at what were good at
which is 5 target aoe
we should be one of the best speccs at that
but arent even t hat
regal falcon
with my logic it was my bloodbath is not going anywhre but i'm losing on rampage...
everytime you rampage with a stack of bloodbath ready you're losing bloodbaths
dense elbow
which is 5 target aoe
Another 5% MC buff then. S2 or S3 don't matter, if that is what ya want
hearty surge
or do you just go rampage bloodbath
You even use bloodthirst above rampage when youre enraged
sour frigate
with my logic it was my bloodbath is not going anywhre but i'm losing on rampage...
bloodbath is ur main damage source in this build
abstract leaf
If they make it so that season 3 set's 2p cleaves the empowered BTs/BBs, then the small AoE is definitely better than season 3, but that is very unlikely to be changed
half willow
fury j ust suffers from what outlaw has suffered from numerous times in the past where youre not even the best, or extremely strong in your niche..which is just a tuning issue.
hearty surge
Exactly
abstract leaf
What I just said solves that issue though
jade cipher
so i just rampage into bloodbath then?
abstract leaf
It will be really strong in 5 target cleave
jade cipher
and not care about the rage
hearty surge
Yes
it would be
they should fix that
And that would also make warrior at least viable in m+
in very high keys you dont pull much more than 5 mobs alot of the times anyways
dense elbow
If S3 (2) cleaves, we will be broken on any add fight, no?
hearty surge
except for specific keys where you have dumb target dummy mobs
(im looking at you BRH and everbloom)
abstract leaf
@dense elbow Almost as broken as enhance on those fights
half willow
in very high keys you dont pull much more than 5 mobs alot of the times anyways
you do in basically every key this season wdym
modest condor
but saurids are whatever
hearty surge
Waycrest dogs too sorry
abstract leaf
ToT
modest condor
i mean there's the whole kitchen area that's generally done in pulls of like 10 mobs
hearty surge
Yeh true
crude gate
any season 2 voters?
dense elbow
Season 1! S1 !
hearty surge
but then again it would be good if warrior as actually good in its supposed niche
and not mediocre there as well
in m+
modest condor
yeah
hearty surge
Thats all I wanted to say
modest condor
i mean we've been there in the past
abstract leaf
DH being miles ahead on 5 target cleave is the biggest troll I've seen in a while
dense elbow
5% more MC dam, gets us there, so ask for that I guess
hearty surge
DH being miles ahead on 5 target cleave is the biggest troll I've seen in a whil...
BM can compete during cds at least
half willow
you do in every key, outside of like...2nd boss area in fall, a few parts of DHT, some parts of Rise and...thats basically it. I mean I main outlaw and even with that, like 95% of pulls in every single dungeon are absolutely over 5-6 mobs
modest condor
we've been 5 target capped since bfa, but in the past we would usually be so good at it that we could still keep up on like 8 target pulls
dense elbow
Guess we looked too OP in low keys
hearty surge
I mean you still do in low keys as warrior
dense elbow
As most low keys are small pulls, we look stronger if leading there
abstract leaf
Or bm or outlaw
dense elbow
At least we keep up with Ret 
hearty surge
we dont though
ret actually blasts in aoe
but you fuck your st for it
ret does alot more over all than warrior in m+
because you fuck the aoe packs
then just tank your dmg on bosses
which results in higher overall
modest condor
yeah if you think we can keep up with ret you need to watch more critcake
dense elbow
What if crit is bad DPS 
modest condor
hearty surge
Its just crit not doing enough dmg
hearty surge
everyone replaces crit in 1 key in his group
dense elbow
Hah
dense elbow
One key, every day, 1500 server time, after Mr Ret eaten lunch. To reduce RNG
Does crit have legendary btw?
hearty surge
No but their ret doesnt either
and it improves ret dps more than it does warrior dps
modest condor
dense elbow
Nah nah, warrior scale with gear
fluid cedar
fury rework when
dense elbow
Hopefully when I am long gone
fluid cedar
You just wasted all that time, for what? It’s a warrior fury channel and you're sitting on here doing this?
dense elbow
Yes? 
modest condor
@young swan why is the sound on your yapping video so low?
i normally have my sound on 10% and i had to turn it all the way to 100% for your video
amber arch
so even with 2 set you dont take Odyns fury until 4 set thats wild
modest condor
you do
amber arch
I just started back after taking a break since SL, which is why im not transitionning from last season and im all mixed up lol
modest condor
lol
amber arch
It was a bit RNG but so fun getting double bladestorms in big packs
we seem to have a lot more bleeds now with odyns fury and roar
modest condor
and cshb
fury dot spec 
oh and when you get lego that's another dot
signet brand and rezan are also both dots
sinful spoke
damn I already miss signet
I dont 💀
amber arch
fury dot spec <:okayge:917646812519739433>
not even its just like invis damage
like hey lets make the spec do more damage -> regular hard hitting abilities so extra dam for 4sec
idk i always like when what youre pressing does all the dps as fury instead of bleeds and dots
slim coral
I’m so hyped for fated
How much longer do you guys think fated is away
Like 2 months?
dapper goblet
vote season 2
young swan
<@137363315817971712> why is the sound on your yapping video so low?
idk man it was fine on my end
fixed for the next one (hopefully)
wicked wadi
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/93XmRhAfBMr1LF46#fight=last&type=damage-don...
where legendary? 😂
quick schooner
guys i have question regarding Siming your charecter 2 know which stats is better for you . i wanna craft a ring and the resualt say
- patchwork sim tell me Vers + mast
2.Dungeon slice say Mast+ Crit
since i only play mythic plus which one should i go ? is dungeon slice accurate ?
sour frigate
alright nice bait blizzers
wicked wadi
guys i have question regarding Siming your charecter 2 know which stats is bette...
always sim patchwork. 1Boss = 5min and 5 Bosses for 2min
wicked wadi
Its not always better but looking at sim its better for you at the moment.
olive wraith
Crit gains more value in aoe
Could skew the result a little
I usually just do st sims honestly
quick schooner
I usually just do st sims honestly
you doing only st sim for raid and dungeon contant or only dungeons ?
quick schooner
in your case it diff . since i dont do raid and only play dungeons
what excutly dungeon slice do ? is it more accurate than patchwork 5 bosses ?
olive wraith
It’s an approximate dungeon portion
wicked wadi
for M+ ST is still important => Boss Weeks ^^
quick schooner
for M+ ST is still important => Boss Weeks ^^
both are important that why it pain in the ass to sim it . like is it worth loosing 280 dps in single target for a 3k dps on aoe etc
wicked wadi
I would probably go for the 3k.
sullen tendon
its funny how much aug killed devo hahah
olive wraith
Poor dev
wicked wadi
haha he probably never played season 3 fury
ebon chasm
I thought s2 would win for fury but seems unlikely now
south kayak
Why can't I vote?
ebon chasm
Wrong region ?
ebon chasm
Not sure then
south kayak
Actually, I can't make a post anywhere
Which is weird
can't open a new topic
Anyone knows why?
ebon chasm
Double check your on EU
south kayak
I did
wicked wadi
maybe to much raging in the past? 😄
south kayak
One checking is enough lol
south kayak
maybe to much raging in the past? 😄
I've never posted in any forums
So there's no history
ebon chasm
Idk if it matters what char you have selected
ebon chasm
No clue then
ebon chasm
🤣
devout totem
iirc your bnet account need to be verified with a phone number
to vote for the tier sets
south kayak
It is
olive wraith
Roster?
paper ivy
- keep in mind look on prev tier wr, this tier is a bit scuffed since to much roaster changes during progression ect *
storm rune
Reading that hurts my brain
paper ivy
whyXD
dense drum
Heard season 3 Was ahead in season 4 votings at some point. Good to see season 2 is ahead. Gonna play some ravager+reck build again. Have only played arms so far
young swan
between both regions s3 is ahead by about 1k votes
south kayak
Heard season 3 Was ahead in season 4 votings at some point. Good to see season 2...
It is still ahead
late forum
Hey guys, just got a crit heavy mastery ring with socket from vault, is it worth to take for m+?
south kayak
Sim it to see
dense drum
So People Wanna play annihilator again didnt expect that
fathom wolf
Least trash weve been all expac even though it feels shit to not have AM
dense drum
Havent they said they will balance whatever tier set is chosen. Then you should always go with best/fun playstyle
young swan
yeah blizzard is super well-known for keeping their word on promising to balance things
willow cradle
Did we even get buffs during season 2 lmao
signal falcon
If anni wins I’m just going be a SoD gamer until War Within
south kayak
What's a SoD
south kayak
oh okay
signal falcon
Perfect game mode for Warriors
south kayak
I tried sod but I got bored fast
wise torrent
Guys, I'm ilvl 424 from the enhanced boost. no set items.
I get the odyn set from m+/raids right?
at ilvl424 what m+ should I look for? or I should only do heroic
wispy thistle
You can lfr for quick tier
fading sky
if u wanna gear fast that is 100% the best option
and tanking in 2-17s isnt rly a hassle
signal falcon
You get lots of free veteran gear from world content in the emerald dream
wise torrent
I'm too clueless to tank lol
I'll try to queue for +2
lfr also gives set items?
fading sky
well i would say if u are new u should try tanking
it is with 5 min discovery of shit, the far more forgiving thing to play 🙂
esp at low keys
wise torrent
more forgiving than a DPS? O.O
signal falcon
You can also get adventurer(?) track gear from a lot of sources that converts to S2 tier gear and is cheap to upgrade to 450
signal falcon
Which would give you a decent foundation
fading sky
interrupting
wise torrent
You can also get adventurer(?) track gear from a lot of sources that converts to...
whats adventurer?
fading sky
u wont get flamed, because theres way less tanks in the circut than dps
haughty stirrup
You can also get adventurer(?) track gear from a lot of sources that converts to...
As example from timewalks
fading sky
and queues will be smaller. but you can also just play dps and have fun 🙂
signal falcon
whats adventurer?
It’s one of the upgrade paths for gear
I think it’s the right name for the gear level I’m thinking of
south kayak
when are tusks dropping
dapper goblet
vote season 2
south kayak
no
signal falcon
yes
fading sky
vote season 3
south kayak
Vote Antorus set
signal falcon
Battle Cry 🥲
wise torrent
before season 3 fury didnt have odyn/avatar buffs right?
spin-to-win was arms skill?
signal falcon
The talent that makes OF give Avatar existed before this season if that’s what you mean
wise torrent
got it
didn't Fury had a spin-to-win skill ? that you just spin around dealing tons of dmg? (not whirlwind)
south kayak
It was Bladestorm in SL
wise torrent
no longer viable? dam that was fun 
south kayak
It doesn't exist
signal falcon
Fury bladestorm was cool because it was fast
Arms bladestorm you got time to make coffee while it channels
wise torrent
wonder why it was removed
dense drum
If ravager+onslaught build baseline is stronger than annihilator build, should season 2 tier equal or beat season 3 tier despite being less powerful?
wise torrent
When doing LFR, I can only do every boss once a week right?
so I should just queue to each one in order at a time?
Is there a way to queue to all of them?
storm rune
yeah you can queue multiple wings simultaneously
they usually wind up popping back to back, at least the few times I've done it
upbeat sentinel
tfw i run a raid for 1 piece of loot on fucking 8 plate characters
and it does not drop
🙀
south kayak
tfw i run a raid for 1 piece of loot on fucking 8 plate characters
I just did the same thing lmao
Tusks?
upbeat sentinel
na
frigid saddle
How many Gem slots in your gear until the Lariat is worth crafting? 6?
upbeat sentinel
Pally set & pally lookalike pieces for pieces I couldn't get, in Tomb
upbeat sentinel
How many Gem slots in your gear until the Lariat is worth crafting? 6?
pretty sure its max slots for fury war
So like 8
frigid saddle
Ah okay
south kayak
Pally set & pally lookalike pieces for pieces I couldn't get, in Tomb
oh lmao
that is way worse
upbeat sentinel
oh lmao
ya i only needed shoulders this week
i had 2 paladins and 6 other plateys
and did not get either the lookalike or tiers
royal yoke
How much does it cost to get crafted bis gear made?
I assume through the crafting order system
frigid saddle
pretty sure its max slots for fury war
I have 8 slots, how much better is lariat?
snow edge
How much does it cost to get crafted bis gear made?
Uhh it costs as much as the materials you need to provide on your server? You can easily check that via AH; how much you need to tip is also dependent on your server, but usually isn't that much these days
sour frigate
I have 8 slots, how much better is lariat?
1-2k dmg maybe? Sim it urself
imo it still will be = to wrists cuz its proc
6 min uptime in keys
snow edge
Lariat will still lose out to SF in ST; but in MT it's likely better with full sockets
calm mantle
Trying to do 22 keys on my 5 day old Warrior alt. Might be reaching a little.
south kayak
I believe in you
calm mantle
Thank you.
stuck bison
what is this scam ? do i redeem ?
sharp terrace
scam
stuck bison
any moders ?
glad plover
I saw some people go Ember of Nulification for higher keys, do you think its superior option to Rezan or Cataclysmic?
pliant lantern
It’s just for the defence that it adds
Since surviving becomes more of an issue than damage
Also Brand really isn’t good in keys unless you have a hyper organised group that can pull around it so stacks don’t drop
Augury or Might are far superior
glad plover
I can keep it goint in some keys
but yeah
Well its resan until that one we should not name drops from Fyrak
pliant lantern
Try to get a Might of the Ocean too
fleet sorrel
flat river
what are BiS AoE trinkets
still ibex
Rezan is pretty bad in m+ environment, I would run many trinkets ahead of it.
Ember of Nulification value gets better with more targets. I didnt do math but in high keys you big pull anyway so it's pretty good there (not mentioning defensive and utility value)
pliant lantern
what are BiS AoE trinkets
Augury + Might
eternal sundial
i run signet and pip M+
pip might works kinda
cold fable
Hi guys, do you know why wowhead MT Raid build still recommends to use Titanic Rage, whereas it seems nobody is using it, at least in Mythic? Thanks !
flat river
if ur running dungeon slice
because its adds alot
but it's better DB because ST dmg against bosses
and if u use DB for both raid and M+ you get used to the rotation
and wont fuck up in raid
pliant lantern
Hi guys, do you know why wowhead MT Raid build still recommends to use Titanic R...
Wow head guide is made before the season is out. The meta develops over time and in this case it was to use dancing blades, wow head just isn’t updated
cold fable
Ok thank you guys! Cheers
cold fable
Best of luck then!
pliant lantern
Good luck
pallid cipher
Is there a reason why ppl are voting for s2 set bonus? I might have forgotten but I feel like s3 is much smoother.
calm mantle
I believe in you
22 cleared because you believed, tho I got carried a little.
south kayak
a little for sure
calm mantle
I'm a wee 472 with crappy trinkets, it's my excuse and I'm sticking with it.
rich flame
22 cleared because you believed, tho I got carried a little.
Why are your bars not proportional to the dps
calm mantle
so idk if that's a good excuse lmao
Never said it was good lmao, just an excuse.
calm mantle
Why are your bars not proportional to the dps
I dunno but this one is a bit better.
rich flame
Much better
still swift
Why are your bars not proportional to the dps
funny details bug
lavish grove
Why are your bars not proportional to the dps
Details thing, I've same "issue"
calm mantle
I can outdps plenty of people with 477
Teach me your ways.
eternal sundial
i spiked 1.8mil on the corridor yesterday
calm mantle
Which one? the bats?
calm mantle
oh i love that corridor
All the scavs, tho it's so shit on raging week when they all start beyblading.
calm mantle
Throne won';t be nice to me, so I'm running an egg shell and crab that might might make it a bit better.
calm mantle
Both were 486 yeah.
south kayak
Makes sense
calm mantle
I was limit testing my own key, seeing how hard I could push it. I now have a 23 EB with no confidence to do it.
south kayak
go arms for EB lmao
calm mantle
I dunno how to play arms lol.
calm mantle
I might give it a try in the future.
1 boss away from heroic fyrakk, will my alt get legendary on first fyrakk kill
glad plover
probably
south kayak
perhapos
eternal sundial
Throne won';t be nice to me, so I'm running an egg shell and crab that might mig...
stand on tank on first get a reflect then fuck off far form tank
calm mantle
Alt going to get lego and augury before my main.
eternal sundial
but closer to tank than ur grp
calm mantle
stand on tank on first get a reflect then fuck off far form tank
I always love spell reflecting that for like 800k in high keys.
somber elk
Is there a reason why ppl are voting for s2 set bonus? I might have forgotten bu...
s2 was peak fury gameplay, cds on every pack
glad plover
s2 was peak fury gameplay, cds on every pack
true but it seems people in warrior community are getting old and cant play high APM spec anymore, so they instead chose to hit slam more 😄
calm mantle
I have times this season where I feel like I'm attacking in slowmode
I loved old season just spam spam spam spam spam
glad plover
I have times this season where I feel like I'm attacking in slowmode
yeah honestly I do not understand why people like this build more, like its weaker overall, Odyns Fury is worst part of our talent tree and in its current form its outright undertuned
somber elk
never had as much fun on a class compared to s2 fury
cds always up was so fun
couldnt imagine s3 would be even close on votes
stuck bison
never had as much fun on a class compared to s2 fury
yeah i agree big time
glad plover
couldnt imagine s3 would be even close on votes
Because as I said people seem to hate high APM playstyle, thing is Arms is slow APM and Fury is fast APM, with season 3 we basically have 2 arms playstyles
But yeah I loved how we basically had CDs every 20 sec, basically for every pull
somber elk
if s3 will be poorly tuned again Im getting aotc and 2,5k and then main sod lol
glad plover
if s3 will be poorly tuned again Im getting aotc and 2,5k and then main sod lol
100% I think hope is that this time we will get better version of Season 3, if we take history of warrior changes this expansion, well I would be happy if they increase Ilvl of the teir set 😄
calm mantle
I just want to not feel super clunky half the time I play or feel like i need to hit 3 random filler skills to use rampage. Sometimes even with my CDs I feel clunky.
glad plover
"legendary will fix that"
ebon chasm
Leggos dot and Ilvl good, on use full garbage
sleek parrot
guys how should rotation priority in aoe look like so I don't get dead globals. no matter which combination I'm trying in aoe sometimes I don't have anything to press
calm mantle
No matter what you do sometimes you'll have to hit slam and whirlwind
and even on the rare instance, you'll have a global cd with nothing to hit.
formal ravine
Is there a way to see results on the other continent on the tier voting ?
vapid spade
formal ravine
Is it updating ?
muted talon
anyone knows a WeakAura to track the Porcelain Trinkets uptime?
cosmic lance
Could make one pretty easily but i dont know why you'd bother
You're not going tohold CDs until it procs
fluid fog
anyone knows a WeakAura to track the Porcelain Trinkets uptime?
If you have details go to the buff uptime page.
paper ivy
if you clear hc, should u do also normal to get lesser ember?
muted talon
If you have details go to the buff uptime page.
k thx
cosmic lance
Can also just click on your name in details and go to the auras tab
Shows you all your buffs
If you're just trying to see overall uptime
sleek parrot
if you clear hc, should u do also normal to get lesser ember?
can't get lesser from normal if you full cleared heroic I'm pretty sure
sour frigate
sadge
sleek parrot
hoping that asia can carry s2 set, we can't see votes from asia if they are even voting
clever path
Seems like we ain't getting s1 tier set bonus
and s1 appearance too
because too many fools like season 2s 2D stupid tshirt chestpiece
silver mantle
Appearence is w/e for me. I just want to go back to playing AM
sleek parrot
same dude
clever path
appearance = 60% of your total dps
timber kiln
I don't play warr but my friend is fury, he's currently wearing 2h mh and 1h offhand is this fine or should he use a 2h OH even if it's like 418?
cosmic lance
This is about the worst thing you could do
Equip 2 2h weapons
I exaggerate but yes it's bad
timber kiln
kk ty 😛
violet trail
He's better off just playing arms until he got a 2nd 2 hander
lavish grove
Seems like we ain't getting s1 tier set bonus
S1 set bonus was garbage
silver mantle
S1 set bonus was garbage
That's, like, your opinion, dude.
silent furnace
How is the tier set vote on us forums looking like
calm mantle
I love seeing 433's in heroic raid and them being like "I do this every week on my main it's fine"
terse ether
s3 won boys
clever path
Is the poll closed?
dense elbow
S3 is only what 1k ahead in total votes. S1 can still win 
low folio
season 1 tier had interesting gameplay if the power behind execute was big
hollow elk
lol okay
low folio
but it wasnt
dense elbow
They did state they would balance so no matter the tierset, the DPS output would be the same
cosmic lance
If they could just "balance" everything properly, every tier would be great
But pretty much nobody has any faith in their ability to get the balancing right
dense elbow
All I am sayin', if you don't want to vote s1 tierset because of it was the weakest gain - you are voteing for the wrong reason
cosmic lance
yeah that's valid
hasty path
strong aspen
WHAT? finally ppl voting the good choice on tier sets? im gonna cry of pure happyness
slender pilot
I just want the tier 3 bonus to be able to cleave, that would be nice
empty leaf
do you guys prioritize bloodthrist over sudden death execute proc in your rotation? in every guide i see that BT is ranked higher in prio, yet, at least with my gear, it deals less dmg even considering the prossible bleed from cold steel, hot blood talent, and generates less rage
i could see BT being more worth when the target is below 35% hp thanks to vicious comtempt talent that boosts its dmg by 50%
narrow narwhal
More BTs mean more crit chances which means shorter odyn's fury CD
strong aspen
I just want the tier 3 bonus to be able to cleave, that would be nice
but s2 is pure cleave, talking about m+ atleast
narrow narwhal
Plus you can go BT SD BT since bt is up every other gcd
sour frigate
but s2 is pure cleave, talking about m+ atleast
why lol
the huricane and ss bonuses give u huge st
sour frigate
WHAT? finally ppl voting the good choice on tier sets? im gonna cry of pure happ...
s1 still far away
clever path
lol
was in a pug with 3 dh, and one of them pressed immo aura 2 times and just ragefire exploded
did 1.2 m dps
sour frigate
strong aspen
why lol
yeah im just telling that cleave is good, apart of st, but im always on cleave aoe build, m+ player, also apart of dmg and good rotation S2 is the most funny build i think, pure fury rotation!
unreal onyx
Cancel BS
unreal onyx
Good design having to cancel a „big CD“ in ST bc rng
red yew
Does anyone know how the KR server is treated? I know CN was diff but like with the S4 tier set voting, are the Koreans able to vote too or do they play on a separate client like china did?
eternal sundial
@burnt stone hello friend do you know how voting was handled?
red yew
Yoooo that guy is goated
red yew
No not Japanese
clever path
when you see a dk with 1535 io, 464 ilvl and green parses / missing parses and wearing a legendary
with best dungeon 15
makes me want to cry
cosmic lance
I'm assuming the answer is yes, but raidbots still works with t30 correct?
LIke if i upscale t30 to 489 it'll be accurate
cosmic lance
Im just using my own gear and swapping my 4 tier pieces around
But the aoe diff on 8 target/3 minutes is only 3% in favour of t30
clever path
3% is huge
clever path
wish thered be an accurate m+ sim
cosmic lance
Yeah, grain of salt and all that
Was more curious to see if the aoe diff was significant
And its not
And 3 of my tier pieces are only 483 so the t30 set was actually at a slight advantage the very basic way i did it
clever path
test s1 tier
cosmic lance
About to do key, have to do later
Its easy though i just ran a gear compare with the tier items at 489, puled the raw data and coped the items across to top gear
Then ran it again with talents selected
in top gear
meager void
... there will be tuning, what you are doing is nonsensical
we have no idea what the tunning will be for whatever tier is chosen
clever belfry
trusting in blizzards tuning
meager void
the choice should be playstyle
cosmic lance
It was a point of curiosity as everyone has been pushing "it's an aoe tier set"
meager void
trusting in blizzards tuning <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
is not trust or mistrust, is basically handling that unknown as that
meager void
It was a point of curiosity as *everyone* has been pushing "it's an aoe tier set...
as both tiers 30 and 31 stand atm, yes. T30 favored AoE.
but that can also radically change with whatever monkey tunes our choice
still swift
tune dn
dense elbow
As they stated they would tune the tiersets to be equal in value, I presume they would take the strongest one on ST, and use that as a baseline.
No way devs would try to balance it for multiple factors
arctic tinsel
Even forgot to take of brand for might haha
meager void
As they stated they would tune the tiersets to be equal in value, I presume they...
I hope its this way. Should T31 win, we would be in the best scenario.
