fury

[restive peak]

Tindral nerfs are dogwater

Ruined fight

[oblique trail]

Tbf

Tindral is too much of a wall

I would love to do the fight pre nerfs

But it's just not it with how busted he is rn for the vast majority of guilds

[clever path]

do parses matter for m+?

[oblique trail]

No

The nerfs though might be a bit too much

[unreal onyx]

not in the slightest

[mild kraken]

Yes parses always matter

[clever path]

do i just look at damage section then ?

[unreal onyx]

m+ parses basically say nothing

[restive peak]

I agree w the nerfs

Except seed soaking nerf

[unreal onyx]

bc there are too many variables to accurately compare yourself

[restive peak]

Seeds = defining ability of the fight

Literally every nerf BUT the double soak removal = great fight

[unreal onyx]

yea seeds maybe a bit too much, but the rest is good

[olive wraith]

I only log m+ to take a look after

[mild kraken]

Seems like a blessing just finishing up smolderon to see those

[oblique trail]

We've had 1 night of P1 prog and got to intermission (with our tank only loel)

[mild kraken]

Didn’t wanna spend 300+ pulls on 2nd to last boss again

[oblique trail]

We were gonna extend

But after the nerfs we're just gonna reclear

[unreal onyx]

definetly a big fun fight pre-nerf

[vague sand]

3rd pally I found thats got the leggo on a timewalking dingeon

imma kms rq

[restive peak]

Im glad I killed prenerf

I'm gonna be disappointed on reclear

[oblique trail]

Would love to go back to wr 200~

And do fights prenerfs

[mild kraken]

Lincc your just to massive man relax

[oblique trail]

But not gonna leave a guild mid prog to do that

[unreal onyx]

we were world 532 smolderon

[oblique trail]

We're world something something 900 now

[unreal onyx]

I assume there has to be like 700 guilds on tindral by now

[oblique trail]

Because we took holiday breaks

[mild kraken]

If you ain’t first your last

[restive peak]

There are like 850 or some shit now

[clever path]

Next week for sure

[restive peak]

A few I've talked to are just takin the week off lol

Ye we took 1 week off at xmas, big yikes

We could've ended top 25ish, now we'll probably be US40ish

[clever path]

I still believe there is some hidden attune for those who play less

I just wonder - when will lfr players will get legendary

[restive peak]

I mean if you aren't pushing ranking, raiding less makes more sense; you'll get CE after nerfs like these 1s

[clever path]

Do lfr gang even have a shot at legendary?

[restive peak]

Technically yes haha

[unreal onyx]

we're not pushing rank

we just wanna kill the bosses

[olive wraith]

Only 1 greater per week. Plus an even lower base drop chance

But I’m sure there’s been 1 that dropped

[hardy cargo]

thats exactly why I raid at the ranking I do haha 2 day guild, very relaxed environment us200-300 ish

I just cba 4 days

maybe someday but not atm

pushing ranking doesnt rlly matter to me as long as I get a few kills and most of the gear from the raid barring maybe 1 or 2 pieces

[olive wraith]

I wish I had a schedule/time zone I could casually mythic

I gotta wait to pug

[storm rune]

I used to raid with an Australian guild when I worked nights

[clever path]

i met my wife raiding in era servers

but thats different kind of raiding

where you dont have to jump over beams, lazers, blood pools, soak orbs, stack behind non lit up zone, switch target

also no lava tornadoes, waves, crushing balls that stun lock you or floors that have spikes going out of them

[restive peak]

Might swap to that in a tier or 2

[hardy cargo]

Yeah, 2 days is so chill. I've wanted to try out pushing ranking in the past, but seeing shit like tindral just makes me not want to worry about it lol

[white sierra]

Whats the best stats for raiding?

[restive peak]

The 1s the robot says

and yeah, I did 2 days at one point...was very relaxed

[covert blaze]

My last what

[sweet badger]

found out today i can use a macro to replace my 2 button rotation with a 1 button rotation

[covert blaze]

Have fun pressing bb unraged after forced downtime beacuse of le funny macro

[olive wraith]

How’s the ping though. I was debating on that

[storm rune]

not great, not bad, think I hovered somewhere around 150

120 when it was good, 180 when it was bad

[supple laurel]

hello, which bosses do you guys use spear on & which for Roar

[olive wraith]

Hmm that might be worthwhile

I use roar for everything

It’s just easier

[supple laurel]

is roar overall better for dmg + ?

or is it jsut pref

[olive wraith]

No it’s a slight dps loss

[storm rune]

Spear better for ST, but there's so little of that this tier

[olive wraith]

I think people spear for smoldy and nym

[supple laurel]

volc too I assume?

[olive wraith]

I hear there’s too much movement

To get full value

On mythic at least

[supple laurel]

also for Smold, how do you guys set up your cds. pop them at beginning, but I don't have it in time for intermission

[storm rune]

it's pretty small dps gain outside of smoldy

[supple laurel]

there wil be like 5 secs left

before he phases

[olive wraith]

There’s plenty of st/low target cleaves

[supple laurel]

or maybe a bit longer

[storm rune]

Sounds about right IAK, first transition the CDs aren't great but it gets better afterwards

[supple laurel]

ah right

okay cool aha

thanks

[storm rune]

yeah np, so long as you're tossing orbs out far it'll all work out in the end

[supple laurel]

yh I saw someone say that. Wasn't doing it, but will start

[storm rune]

Since outside of mythic the rings are random you can potentially fuck yourself and have to take a hit tho

But you've got SR and ER to handle that situation

[supple laurel]

yhh should be fine

will try it next smoldy

cheers man

[covert blaze]

@supple laurel you need to use your CDs faster than normal on pull on smolderon

[storm rune]

✌️

[covert blaze]

So if you delay orbs they are back for the damage amp

[supple laurel]

yeahh I usually use them all at once as soon as its pulled

and try to get it back for intermission

thanks guys!

[covert blaze]

Yeah but are you going far

So you get orbs for CDs?

[supple laurel]

thats what I don't do atm

aha

i'll start doing that

[covert blaze]

Yeah you go far away so you get knocked and spawn orbs far away

So you get it in time for your CDs

You should watch a video to get an idea of how far you should go

[supple laurel]

yh great call. I'll try that on the next smoldy pull we do. Will check on YT

[clever path]

is there an addon that makes nameplates better outside of plater?
plater doesnt look very defaullt

[storm rune]

critcakes made a guide for it

[supple laurel]

oh nice

will check it now then

[covert blaze]

My brother in Christ

Wtf does this mean

[clever path]

let me explain

[covert blaze]

You can make plater look in any way you like

[clever path]

like this

not like this

[covert blaze]

Idk what you want but you can configure plater in any way you like

You could get a profile and then tweak it around

[clever path]

Can I make it look like this?

[dire badge]

“In any way you like”

wonder what that means

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-flip-desk-freak-out-mad-gif-15503485

[half cargo]

If you don’t want to use plater, check out KUI nameplates or Threatplates

[clever path]

this is it thanks mate

[restive peak]

27 TOTT w 2 deaths, barely time cuz dogshit dung....+3 IO

Thanks Blizz

[olive wraith]

Quazii makes a good plater profile

[clever path]

i ve been running quazii before

dont like it

[olive wraith]

Really? I love the color coded interrupts

[clever path]

yea no i have no issues with it, its quiet nice - just really got boring

need some change

even if minimal

[pulsar turtle]

Would someone be able to check a route and lmk if it looks good for a 28 dht?

[olive wraith]

#protection would probably be the better place

[thorny lily]

Dancing blades is better then Titanic rage on m+?

[olive wraith]

Technically titanic rage is better for aoe

[young swan]

yes]

[olive wraith]

But dancing blades is amazing for prio damage

[thorny lily]

i see some in raider io using, if anyone can tell me when use ww in oppener too

[olive wraith]

To me it just feels better overall

[void valley]

We in it

[olive wraith]

Mid charge

Ww range is larger than melee range. So you can clip the mob with ww before you’re finished charging

[thorny lily]

then i can just do this with ww in charge?

oh i see, you dont get enrange to thunderous

nvm

[olive wraith]

If you rek charge you press ramp before of/tr

And ww before that

[somber elk]

Everyone uses it

[olive wraith]

There’s some reasoning for running titanic

I just can’t get behind it. Db just feels so good

[oblique trail]

There's not really much reason to run Titanic except if you're doing key levels where it doesn't matter, i.e lower keys where packs basically die in your CD duration

Or if you're doing 20 weeklies and just want to run something else because it doesn't matter there either

[olive wraith]

Giga pulls you could argue using

[oblique trail]

And how many giga pulls are you going to be doing

[olive wraith]

Depends on the group

[modest condor]

giga pulls still have prio targets

[oblique trail]

You get 10% more damage on OF, which is softcapped even though it doesn't say, gives you borderline zero value on ST compared to DB, and DB just gives you more prio damage as well in packs

[modest condor]

in EB you still need to kill the abominations even if you pull 20 flowers

[oblique trail]

There's just not really any argument to be made for TR if you're doing any meaningful key levels

[keen kindle]

Define meaningful

25+?

[oblique trail]

Sure, but would probably broaden it to just any key that you personally might be struggling with

[shy knot]

whats the rotation like in m+ ?

[keen kindle]

Some people might struggle with 20s due to skill and or gear

[shy knot]

you still watch for the 4s avatar ?

[olive wraith]

Ye

[oblique trail]

So use it in 20s

[keen kindle]

aka they're trash like me

[oblique trail]

I only do weekly 20s

But still use DB in all of them

Because it's just better

[shy knot]

so the m+ aoe rotation is the same as ST just with ww

?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[olive wraith]

That’s fury for you

[shy knot]

it feels kinda clunky but ok

[oblique trail]

Play it more and it'll get better

[shy knot]

miss S2 blow all cds playstyle

[olive wraith]

How so

[oblique trail]

But not matter what you'll always run into some infrequent downtime no matter how well you play the rotation

[shy knot]

you press one cd, wait then press other

pressing swifty macro then going ham felt way better imo

[keen kindle]

I mean am in general just felt better

[olive wraith]

Meh it’s just rotational thing

I don’t feel like waiting 4s is clunky. But that’s just subjective

[shy knot]

I like it on bosses

especially the actual execute phase ramp up

S2 was weak af

[olive wraith]

S3 execute phase is so

[covert blaze]

db = based
tr = cringe

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-pog-echo-arena-vr-scrim-org-gif-18490597

Anger management pls

[covert blaze]

What's the deal with this new "follower dungeon" thing? You do dungeons with npcs?

[oblique trail]

Ya basically

[covert blaze]

Wut

If I wanted to do dungeons with npcs I would play with @hasty path

[supple laurel]

yo what talents you guys run on Tindral

or do you just pop cds on roots

[hasty path]

If I wanted to do dungeons with losers who dont have a legendary I would play with @covert blaze

[keen kindle]

Just send OF?

[hasty path]

i dont think thats allowed in this server

no 18+ content

[keen kindle]

I don't think you change talents

...

WRONG OF

Odyn's fury

[covert blaze]

Loser ✅
No legendary ✅
Yeah true true, that's pretty true

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/hilarious-original-clap-applause-bravo-gif-5482130

[naive summit]

yo can u do m+ with follower dungeons? maybe my fury war will finally get an invite

[oblique trail]

Mythic or HC

[supple laurel]

HC

[oblique trail]

If HC then just WW talents with Roar

[supple laurel]

okay cool thanks

[oblique trail]

This essentially

[naive summit]

do u change stuff for M?

[oblique trail]

You could move Pain and Gain to Wrecking Throw for a small bonus

Yes, I run this on Mythic

[naive summit]

does ur group shit on roots or somethin?

[oblique trail]

On Mythic the roots gets bombed by people who fly up mid phases and picks up flame balls

And dive bomb the roots

[naive summit]

ah i see

[hasty path]

go get your legendary and get carried through heroic again, jit

[oblique trail]

Which does the majority of the damage to roots

But outside of that you still need a bit of damage on them, but you're better off just going full ST otherwise

[naive summit]

i see

good to know ty

[spiral orbit]

Does Odyns fury break us from roots with the talent that automatically casts avatar? i know a hard casted avatar works

[clever path]

yea

it does

[spiral orbit]

ty

[covert blaze]

Keep yourself safe

[final birch]

tbf aren't most abominations skipped

[modest condor]

i was just giving an example

[final birch]

been a while since I did meaningful eb

[modest condor]

could be any higher hp mob

[final birch]

ye

[modest condor]

darters, healers, those guys that stun you

[clever path]

EB sucks

I don't like the dungeons this season

Bring back Sanguine Depths 😄

[eternal sundial]

EB goes fucking hard

goated key

[flat sapphire]

Fun fact

you can wipe

in lfr

I just wiped on lfr

on trash

[clever path]

thats because your a season 3 enjoyer

[sullen dove]

bro flopped like a stack of cards goin on s1 now instead of s2

respectable tho s1 is better

cant imagine how they actually make it not a pile of shit tho aside from a boring "execute does 100% more damage" or something

[muted shore]

can someone suggest decent UI for warrior?
im terrible setting up UIs myself so id like to use something packed

[hard widget]

I use afenar

https://wago.io/Afenar_Warrior/130

[covert blaze]

I also recommend afenar

[unreal onyx]

I use luxthos

[muted shore]

Oh this reminds me of something i used in BFA on my rogue back in the days, gonna give it a try, thanks!

[subtle rock]

urgh what are we doing, why is s3 tier bonus winning the vote for next patch

[sullen dove]

cuuuz people enjoy it?

[covert blaze]

Because it's the most fun

[subtle rock]

I like odyns fury, but i find it so clunky

[covert blaze]

?

[storm rune]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

I think the funniest part is S3 is winning for UDKs

[covert blaze]

Why is it funny

It's the best of the three

Objectively? Are you sure about that?

Playing around cringe 100% uptime requirements

AM is cringe

[clever path]

S3 is cringe

[covert blaze]

This was in response to William btw

Tuning doesn't matter you are voting the tier set design wise

[olive wraith]

It’s just a diff damage profile

[spice sage]

what's funny about actually having a consistent strong aoe button on a relatively short cd?

[storm rune]

nono, angry shouty youtube guy told me it was bad

[olive wraith]

Wdym

[frigid zealot]

People say uptime is cringe.e regardless of tier. If your uptime is shit your damage is shit

[sullen dove]

raging blow spam is so different

its worse in m+ granted but cooldown oriented in raid is infinitely better

[olive wraith]

S2 you press rb and ramp

[sullen dove]

think for 1 second if we were using s2 talents, how dogshit we would be for over half the fights

compared to now

[clever path]

Fury is doomed and Fury mains are dooming it

[olive wraith]

S2 had a flat damage profile

[sullen dove]

tindral? we are not doing root damage, smolder? 0 value in damage amp window, larodar, adds will die too fast

[olive wraith]

S3 we have a lot more burst timing

[covert blaze]

God forbid you play a spec with a 3 or 4 min cd

[spice sage]

variable cds

[sullen dove]

while on the other hand honestly having of for both echo and sarkareth

sound way better

[clever path]

If you want to play S2 Fury in S4 just go outlaw

[sullen dove]

than this dogshit rng cdr gameplay

[unreal onyx]

fuck AM in raid

I can't say it enough

[clever path]

Fuck raid

[covert blaze]

AM is cringe

[clever path]

M+ > Raid

[olive wraith]

I think am is fine

[spice sage]

I like it in keys, pref s3 in raid though.

[unreal onyx]

I bet you still raid for gear

[olive wraith]

But I like doing st damage

[brittle monolith]

[clever path]

I boosted a DH so yeah

[olive wraith]

It’s not like we’re godawful in m+

[covert blaze]

It literally is

[olive wraith]

You’re hanging onto the am playstyle

And forgetting the set

[unreal onyx]

vote S3

[brittle monolith]

getting resources from auto attacks indeed very fun

[unreal onyx]

any NAers online that can tell me the voting distribution?

[covert blaze]

I was talking about dk btw

[olive wraith]

S2 didn’t auto attack?

[covert blaze]

You're just joining mid convo for fun

[olive wraith]

Blue post shows current vote count

[unreal onyx]

the max video really made us take a hit

[supple laurel]

is it possible to check what gear someone was using for a specific kill on warcraftlogs?

[olive wraith]

S3 is ahead by like 1200 votes overall

[spice sage]

s2 was winning in eu by a bit, s3 for na

[sullen dove]

yea if u click on their summary

[supple laurel]

oh lmao

cheers

[sullen dove]

:3

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-yes-yeah-baby-cheer-gif-15859596

[covert blaze]

Can you link me I'm on my phone

[clever path]

Cause S3 sucks ass

[unreal onyx]

season 3 still gonna win

[olive wraith]

So am I lol

[unreal onyx]

cuz NA chads

[covert blaze]

I want to bookmark it

[clever path]

NA think Africa is a country that's why

[olive wraith]

#news

[covert blaze]

???

[unreal onyx]

don't care, S3 wins

[clever path]

Doomed by NA once more

[unreal onyx]

rare NA W

[clever path]

I'm moving back to Albania

[brittle monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1029325090741039104.webp?size=48&name=5790_PepeLaugh&quality=lossless

[covert blaze]

I see ty

[olive wraith]

If they like doubled s2 bt boost but made it not cleave

I think it would be pretty good

[sullen dove]

the last thing we need is for less of our shit to cleave

[spice sage]

it would just be a worst s3 bonus still.

if they did that

[olive wraith]

S2 had great aoe

[covert blaze]

Just make s3 cleave

[fringe flame]

could be worse. could be spriests. their s2 is winning but it just doesn't work with the current talents/spec.

like imagine having to casts 10 fillers before you had enough resource to rampage

[silver dawn]

Is there a ranking for trinkets for M+? Wowhead is more about the ST

[covert blaze]

I don't remember s1 spriest but current tier is absolute dogshit to play with

[olive wraith]

Current tier is the “execute” tier right

[covert blaze]

Check out bloodmallet to get an idea

[olive wraith]

I forget the spell

[covert blaze]

Shadow word death on cd

Very cringe

[olive wraith]

Ah right

S2 was their spender tier iirc

Based around plague

[covert blaze]

S2 was fun imo

[olive wraith]

Idr what s1 was

[fringe flame]

s1 had a stacking devouring plague buff and then 4% haste. I'm not a big fan of current spriest, too much self damage and I'm sick of playing the mindbender spec again. I switched to my warrior midway through this tier because of it.

[olive wraith]

They kinda gutted SP

Cause last season they were exodia

[fringe flame]

it barely functions with the current tier set, it's going to be garbage with s2 unless they undo some of the changes

[olive wraith]

Well kinda

[covert blaze]

Not only they gutted priest in general (deserved), but the spriest s3 tier set is like one of the worst rotations I've ever seen

[covert blaze]

They're gonna rebalance whichever set gets chosen, and I would assume the specs themselves too

[fringe flame]

i doubt it

they'll tier sets because they want them to have a certain % increase, but I wouldn't expect much class/spec tuning. specially with spriests given how many changes they got so far and it being the end of the expansion

[olive wraith]

They can’t even tell us initial bandaid fixes before the vote

[unreal onyx]

upping numbers

and calling it good

[fringe flame]

yeah if they had bothered to have a post saying "if you vote for this tier, here's what we change" that would have been awesome, but they couldn't even be bothered to list the bonuses and post pictures or links of the tier set appearances.

[covert blaze]

ww

[covert blaze]

They're not gonna tell you what they MIGHT change in like 4 months

The tier sets are not gonna change, they're gonna get rebalanced. It would make sense to rebalance the spec around the tier set after

[hoary flare]

The Ret pally wowhead guide, and the blood and unholy dk wowhead guides all say Fyr’alath is BiS for each of them. But when looking on Fury’s wowhead guide (and even arms’ wowhead guide) Fyr’alath isn’t brought up. It just says the BiS weapon for dps warriors is the weapon drop from Smolderon and/or Gorehowl from Murozond’s Rise. So my question is, is Fyr’alath actually BiS and the guide writers haven’t updated the guides/the edits haven’t been approved and published?

[pliant lantern]

Legendery is BiS

[covert blaze]

It's not updated

It's 496 of course it's bis

[vale elk]

crushing force seems like a really bad talent, esp in mythic plus when i want to be hitting ww more. is it troll to drop it entirely and take intimidating shout and pain and gain?

[oblique trail]

It's not troll

It does virtually nothing, but it's technically the best throughput option

[past pivot]

It’s a quest reward. Not a boss drop.

[vale elk]

thanks

[covert blaze]

Yeah crushing is a very low dps increase but it's still dps so people take it

Nothing wrong with dropping it for more cc if needed

[hoary flare]

Yeah I know Fyr’alath is a quest reward. I was talking about the Incandescent Soulcleaver that’s dropped by smolderon is considered BiS on the Fury warrior wowhead guide. But it’s fine ignore my question completely. Silly question really

[modest condor]

to be fair bis lists are kinda dumb

[covert blaze]

Don't mind him, he didn't even read your post

[modest condor]

it was made at the start of the patch when the lego wasnt found yet

and never updated

because, again, bis lists are kinda dumb

[gilded pawn]

Would you say you wouldn’t include the bis list in your bis list

[modest condor]

im gonna make a tier list of bis lists

[covert blaze]

Tier list tier list

[snow edge]

I mean, the legendary is the 'BiS' option if that's your question - it's ilvl 496 v. 489; even from that perspective alone it wins outright

[past pivot]

You really have to ask if a legendary weapon is better than a regular weapon? You really need a guide to help you determine that?

[slim coral]

Put razor coral up there

for sure

maybe grieftorch 2nd

[covert blaze]

I prefer inkpod

[hoary flare]

You don’t need to be rude about it. It was a silly question, I realise that now

[covert blaze]

Don't mind axekandi, like I said

He's weird like that

[dapper goblet]

vote season 2

[slim coral]

it's too late

Season 3 is already so far ahead

[pliant lantern]

Carry on voting season 3

[covert blaze]

No

[cedar edge]

Dont bother dude gate keep country around here, million forum posts about this discord lol

[olive wraith]

How was anything above “gatekeep country”

[cedar edge]

im not gonna get into it, this discord and wowhead writers have a bad rep across the internet I just let the random people asking questions know whats up so they dont get flamed too hard

[celest sierra]

I’m confused is this the overall winning vote so far ? Cause I scrolled through the votes szn 3 looks like it has more but this shows season 2 is winning (THANK GOD) but can someone shed some light ??

[oblique trail]

That's the Tmog vote

Scroll down to see the tier votes

[celest sierra]

Ohhhh wow okay yeh didn’t see that

Damn got hella excited for no reason. Alrighty thank you

[olive wraith]

Still don’t see how any part of that convo was gate keep-y

But okay

[slim coral]

If s2 didn't win this I would of cried

Glad to see we all have good taste at least

[cedar edge]

[olive wraith]

I wanted rock boy tmog

Boo

[covert blaze]

Same I didn't play s1

[dapper goblet]

was nice knowing u

[covert blaze]

I don't think this guy knows what gatekeeping means

[snow edge]

It's a cool buzzword though dude

Just throw it out there

Don't gatekeep his use of gatekeep

[olive wraith]

[covert blaze]

Yeah I'm not gonna tell him what it means, it's giga ironic for me to do that

Too funny

[olive wraith]

Here comes the keeper himself

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/here-it-comes-tornado-meme-gif-23054073

[snow edge]

[upbeat plume]

yeah s2 was definantly the best looking armor set by far

[snow edge]

I quite liked the dark pvp tint for s1 though as well

This is greater suspense than that message we waited for the other day for like 20min

[covert blaze]

[oblique trail]

:popcorning:

[edgy widget]

the guy already acknowledged it was a silly question, don't need to be snarky about it

[sullen dove]

L

[covert blaze]

L

[oblique trail]

L

[edgy widget]

And please let this serve as a reminder to everyone not to lose sight of the fact that this is predominantly a place for people to ask questions and talk about Warrior stuff. While it is a familiar "hangout" for many members, the goal is not to belittle, alienate, or run off other members.

[olive wraith]

The only thing that belittle is our brains

badumtss

[snow edge]

Oh no

[clever path]

agreed

i prefer bb ramp spam

over cb ramp spam

cb cb ramp*

[gilded pawn]

I only belittle ppl who don’t own the leggo

[dense elbow]

I only belittle the ones who don't agree OF is the best thing since bread.

[clever path]

meat>bread

fuck bread

[dense elbow]

You do you, I reather just consume it normally. Also, freshly baked bread, with home-made jam - mmm, divine

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[upbeat plume]

I say this every week and I shall say it every week hence until it happens 1 week before season 4

XD

[covert blaze]

That's the spirit

[restive peak]

Wait someone bashin our disc? We have the BIS class discord, I'm in like 4 of them

[clever path]

Yay season 3

[modest condor]

vote isnt over yet

eu fury s2 took a huge leap since that was posted

it's now like 5% ahead of s3

[restive peak]

Crit on stream tryin to get S2 votes LOL

[gilded pawn]

Well if you pretend raid doesn’t matter in fated

Then you would vote m+

[restive peak]

Ofc

[gilded pawn]

Which s2 better

[upbeat plume]

yeah were kind of stuck in the hard place of m+ and raid folks opposed atm

[pliant lantern]

God I don't want to play season 2 in raid. There is so much downtime in Vault and Amidrassil that will make season 2 feel utterly horrible if its an AM build to go with it again

[restive peak]

I spend more hrs a week in M+ than raid and I voted S3

^ that's what I've been saying all week, gonna be fucked

[clever path]

Yeah well

You had raid season

[ashen socket]

Sorry I don't want to be an uptime slave that gets royally fucked when I get a mech

[clever path]

Time to give m+ a season

[upbeat plume]

or not

[clever path]

[upbeat plume]

lol

[restive peak]

We won't be M+ meta regardless brotherman

[ashen socket]

Or have my empowered bloodthirst get deflected

[restive peak]

We never will be

[clever path]

But atleast numbers in m+ will go brrrrr

I mean not like they are small now

[ashen socket]

M+ Numbers are already good in m+ with season 3

[clever path]

Yeah true

[ashen socket]

you are literally asking for shit st and better aoe when our aoe is already still really good

when we can have good st and good aoe

[upbeat plume]

yeah theres people pushing this idea that were somehow garbage in s3 m+ cause of the tier

[ashen socket]

And by no means do I trust blizz to tune s2 to actually be comparable

[midnight kite]

Most of the top M+ performers all got buffed this patch no?

[upbeat plume]

^this 1000%+

Ive lost trust in their ability to tune fury

[modest condor]

this argument makes no sense because s2 was one of the strongest st tiersets of the patch

fury being undertuned doesnt make the tierset bad on st

[young swan]

yeah but would the tuning change?

[midnight kite]

Havoc and Rogue got flat out reworked, BM got reworked I think, Mage got buffed

[young swan]

doubtful

[ashen socket]

Again when has blizz been good about tuning fury

we get lucky if anything

[modest condor]

10.0.5

[ashen socket]

Crumbs

[young swan]

certainly wouldnt call that a "rework" for fury, definitely not in the sense that people think of that word

[modest condor]

we got buffed by like 10% that patch and swapped from a build that almost everybody hated to one that significantly fewer people hated

i was answering the tuning question, had nothing to do with rework

[young swan]

oh i see u were answering sepy

[modest condor]

i dont think changing some numbers and adding some effects to existing talents can be called a rework no

[young swan]

i would agree

they were really good changes tho

[clever path]

I just want to spin my legendary all over the floor with ravager

Smack that I’m on the floor

[modest condor]

also something to keep in mind is that fury had like 0 variance in dps, so even tho our st was tuned average, pretty much every spec that was tuned lower had higher variance and could rng themself into better logs

[upbeat plume]

if they do actually tune the sets and we have to go back to the ravager build, Id honestly prefer 10.05 season 1 lol

I really dont like season 2s mechanics with bt

[clever path]

The rampage ramp up ?

[upbeat plume]

yeah not a fan personally

Id prefer if they actually tuned season 1s set to not be dog shit

over s2 if we do have to go back to that build

[clever path]

I started playing mid season 2 and was like “wtf how do I stop myself from pressing bloodthirst too fast”

Imagine if blizzard will suddenly be like “okay that was a joke, have fun with all tier sets available”

Kinda would be fire but no shot it’s happening

[upbeat plume]

that would honestly be great, but they wont put enough devs on s4 for that to be reality

it will be similar to fated in SL where theres like 2 people keeping the lights on id guess

[clever path]

Now that I think about it, so many bosses require movement in season 2 , and having ravager go spin somewhere and tank moves boss in a dungeon

Missing out on a lot of dps

[ashen socket]

I have no faith in blizz to go and tune a set to be comparable to what we currently have for a fated season. Also while season 2 was one of the strongest sets yes so is season 3 and you cannot dispute the fact that our st is stronger this tier because of the tierset. We go s2 yeah sure our aoe will be good and our st will be super mid. Not to mention to get good st on any boss in s2 you needed perfect uptime. Get the rashok leap? Welp cd timings are fucked. Boss parries your bloodthirst that you worked so hard to stack up? well get fucked. That shit doesn't happen with the current tierset. Sure you can still get a mech and sure you'll still lose dps but it ain't gonna feel as bad when it happens. Additionally what I said did make sense because our st was shit in season 2. Doesn't matter how good a tierset is 200% more damage of 0 damage is still 0 damage. Now that's a bit of a stretch but I would rather be good on 7/9 bosses than 2/9 bosses its cringe as shit and more likely to be the case with the s2 set.

[clever path]

Doti rise how would that look

[clever path]

Make the same comparison for m+

Because I can’t compare with raid , no raiding under my hood

Besides bought boosts and first two weeks

[ashen socket]

I already typed more than what people will read

[snow edge]

A lot of these arguments (on both sides) are contingent on 'ifs' though around whether tuning will take place, for tier or for the base components of the spec

[ashen socket]

End of the day people are still looking at s2 like its a #s angle they aren't saying oh I like the tierset they are saying Oh MoAr AoE. And sure yeah I like doing big damage in aoe but you still do that with season 3 and you maintain having good ST

[snow edge]

So it's hard to gauge properly

[clever path]

Imagine if in the end it’s going to be s2 tier set and it’s gonna deal more ST in the end

But blizzard doesn’t play warrior and our tuning will be probably something like “added lightning effects on spear of CHAMPION”

[upbeat plume]

I pray every day for the death of elysian might

lol

[clever path]

Stand in spear be happy

I tried doing spear build this season btw

Don’t know how people do it

It seems to be up for too little time to do anything significant

[midnight kite]

In SL you had to stand in it for 2 more seconds then now

[ashen socket]

It was also on a shorter cd

[clever path]

Condemn wouldn’t be bad tbf

I’d take that any day

[ashen socket]

which for how much less aoe it does than roar I still think it should be on a shorter cd

[clever path]

Arms warrior shadowlands

With condemn

Exeexexecuuuuute

[olive wraith]

Spear is the st spell though

[upbeat plume]

Man that first few weeks was fucking wild, was stupid simple fun if at least for a short time lol

[clever path]

Yeah I quit just in korthia release

[midnight kite]

I kinda wonder if the S1 set would be good even if its proc rate was so high you basically only hit Execute and rampage (outside of CDs)

[clever path]

Cba doing dailies

[snow edge]

S1 would be great, if they did some proper tuning

[clever path]

Would they tho?

[snow edge]

I wouldn't bet a single dollar on it, no

But that's just their track record lately

[clever path]

They would get it nailed down tho by the end of season for sure

[snow edge]

[clever path]

What if fury had some arms bleeds

[fleet sorrel]

[clever path]

I can seriously imagine big dps on meters

[gilded pawn]

Imagine thinking they are gonna give arms bleed for free

[clever path]

Imagine thinking

Man , sometimes I just sit and think why I can’t play ADHD classes that I see people play and do MASSIVE amounts of damage , and when I try them it just feels so mid or that it just doesn’t work

And then afk a bit , jump in Orgrimmar around and exit , go to sleep. Wake up, log onto my warrior and just am happy to play that class

Feels good not to be tied to some resource like runes, soul shards , holy power , maelstorm, or combo points

[weary summit]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/area-52/jintal

someone mind checking my stats, are they super fucked up? any recs on how to fix it

[olive wraith]

dont worry about stats

worry about sims

[pliant lantern]

Also, don't use the armoury for stats, they aren't accurate

[weary summit]

what do you recommend?

i was just looking at fury rankings and mine are complete opposite of everyone lol, im simming 217k ST

[pliant lantern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

[weary summit]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uZmB8mPYBrPnV73JvFZN78

[pliant lantern]

Just use topgear and sim some different gear/gem/enchant combos and see what it says

[weary summit]

yeah ths waht ive been doing, ty :)

[pliant lantern]

Just having a quick look, I would hazard a guess and say your gems are possibly wrong

Never use a single stat gem like you have in your helm, they have less total stats then the 2 stated gems

Also gemming haste feels wrong, try simming with Mastery+Haste/Vers/Crit gems

[weary summit]

okay thank you very much! raidbots tells me to keep the gems so i just leave them, but i had a feeling it was wrong

[supple lintel]

Hey could someone tell me what spells are uncapped or like 20 target capped for fury warrior?

[pliant lantern]

OF and Thunderous Roar

[molten relic]

pretty stats

[supple lintel]

sry I'm not a warrior player, could you tell me what OF is?

[weary summit]

odyns fury

[pliant lantern]

Odin's Fury

[supple lintel]

thanks

[modest condor]

whirlwind and spear: full damage up to 5 targets, square root scaling up to 20, can hit more than 20 but doesnt increase damage anymore
ravager and odyn's fury: same as whirlwind/spear but 8 instead instead of 5
roar: initial hit does full damage to 20 targets, can hit more but doesn't increase damage anymore, dot does full damage to everything

[covert blaze]

Sim crafted rings, they might help potentially

[north edge]

i love having so much utility in M+

really love getting invited to keys instantly

[modest condor]

if we had utility we still wouldnt get invited because several specs just do 20% more dps anyway

[north edge]

only took 2 hours

[covert blaze]

Play with friends

If you don't have friends make some

[north edge]

bro

my friends dont want to play with me

because im a warrior

they generally pug a 5th

[proud crown]

then they're not friends

[covert blaze]

Sounds like you need better friends

[north edge]

they are ok to take my 480 dh to keys

but not my warrior

i dont even know how to play dh

[pliant lantern]

What key levels are you doing?

[north edge]

25s atm

and 26 on ad and fall

[pliant lantern]

Warrior is fine at that level

[shell jackal]

we need some more season 3 odyn's fury voters on the EU side, gamers

[pliant lantern]

Its only cutting edge keys where classes matter

[north edge]

lfg is kinda elitist

i can get into AD and TOTT

because reflect

but other keys im dead weight

[weary summit]

stupid question, if i already have crafted cloak and bracer can i still wear the crafted ring?

[pliant lantern]

Yes

[covert blaze]

As long as you don't embellish the ring, yes

[pliant lantern]

You are only limited to 2 crafted embelishments...you can have infinite normal crafted items though

[covert blaze]

You can wear as much crafted as you want, just limited to 2 embellishments (flavor pocket doesn't count towards that 2 limit)

[shell jackal]

votes for s2 are wild rn, idk why. i much prefer the versatile playstyle of odyn's fury.

[pliant lantern]

Because content creaters are pushing season 2

[shell jackal]

being able to cast it whenever you like for big packs is nice. ravager sucked balls, especially on bosses. drop down ravager, boss has to move because of mechanic, all your damage is gone and ravager is in the background flinging around somewhere, barely able to catch up to the boss

[shell jackal]

oh, yikes.

thats not great

[vocal fog]

Just voted for s1

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

[shell jackal]

ur killin me man

OF is such a fun playstyle idk why we're sabotaging one another

[snow edge]

Don't see how that's any different to people 'pushing' for a particular season in here

[stuck bison]

you can play OF with s2 tier set

[proud crown]

how is it sabotaging?

[shell jackal]

my friend has figured out why we're sabotaging one another

intelligent

[proud crown]

they would vote s3 if they liked it

[fluid cedar]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1jLQUP2WS2FDJ46crUXXkp wondering about this sim... champ brand simming higher than hero rezans?

[muted shore]

Maybe people here think they vote for looks and thats why

[fluid cedar]

does that sounds accurate?

[snow edge]

Yes

[shell jackal]

id like the s3 set bonus and the s2 appearance, personally. i'm unsure whats appealing about Reck/Ravager playstyle, at least to me individually, and i really dont get season 1 votes, s1 was kinda jank

[pliant lantern]

Brand is very good if single target and over 4mins...so I believe it

[proud crown]

reck/rav runs AM

so youre always in cds

[fluid cedar]

bet... i guess i have more of a feelscraft question then. do yall think brand is worth taking over the hero rezans in keys?

[proud crown]

which is fun

[fluid cedar]

pug keys to be specific where pulls aren't consistently chained for uptime on brand

[snow edge]

I don't think either are particularly good for pug keys - get yourself a might / ember / crab / block for keys

[pliant lantern]

Brand is not good in keys if you can't keep the stacks up, which you won't be doing in pugs]

[muted shore]

how do you set up the sim
or do trinkets give that much in terms of dps

[shell jackal]

i guess, but ravager isn't worth the cd timing reduction, imo. its awful. in m+ sure, great for keys. actually terrible on any boss fights though

[muted shore]

cause you are like 3 ilvl below but have +8k dps

from my character

[fluid cedar]

its 5m st full consumes / buffs w/ lust

[shell jackal]

and if we're gonna have fated amirdrassil for example, all of those fights are lots of moving, high mobility uptime, high multitarget fights - which is where OF excels. ravager/am would suck in amirdrassil.

[fluid cedar]

think im using corrupting rage phial and mastery runes in this sim

[vocal fog]

Imagine S1 with the right tuning and increased proc rate 1 button gaming

[fluid cedar]

idk i have myth track augury maybe that's it? also have vers/mast on my crafted cloak. might be stat allocation ig

[muted shore]

thanks!

[stuck bison]

it didnt actually felt that terrible at boss fights

[muted shore]

yours still has more dps for some reason
guess trinkets and 489 MH do give that much difference...

[olive wraith]

Imagine s3 had aoe tuning

[proud crown]

it would be nice

[stuck bison]

then good luck on razageth,sarkharet, diurna which needs high sustained multitarget that OF cant provide

[snow edge]

There are certainly pros and cons for both, that's about the only consensus you'll reach

[pliant lantern]

Raz doesn't need sustained multi target, it needs burst

[stuck bison]

it is just vote for playstyle you like at this point and it is s2 for me

[pliant lantern]

Same with Sark

[stuck bison]

yeah they nerfed adds alot

[pliant lantern]

There are very few fights in any raid that favour sustained AoE over burst AoE. You could make the argument, that Diurna is one given how many and the frequency of adds spawning. Thats about the only one

[stuck bison]

zaqali

[pliant lantern]

Even things like last phase Nelth, the burst of OF is on par with, if not better than ravager

[stuck bison]

[pliant lantern]

Sorry, any raid this expansion, I should have specified...i should really go to bed

[stuck bison]

well fated we ll have them all

[pliant lantern]

Ahhhh yes, the AoE fight that was actually just single target....man that fight was a meme. Just rolled the dice each raid in my guild as to who got to AoE pad on adds whilst everyone else was ST spec and just burst the boss down

[modest condor]

most adds live long enough for ravager to have value, and the ones that don't are just pad and if you choose your tierset based on pad then idk

also ravager isn't just damage, it also buffs your str by up to 30%

[proud crown]

also tuning will be balanced

I like OF execute dmg

[fluid cedar]

80% uptime on corrupting rage, also i lied i had haste on both weps but diff is like ~100 dps for me

[stuck bison]

ravager blasted on sark and neltherion rav strong

[fluid cedar]

all buffs except PI

[muted shore]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/maNkcGkNpDciNsvYUMyQ5K
I guess its just trinket difference then
and MH 489

[fluid cedar]

ye looks like you have a lot more haste than i do too, i only have like 3k. more likely is augury and 489 wep tho

i got out dps'd by like 25k by a warrior ~4 ilvl lower than me with no augury but he had legendary

in a key

[proud crown]

try recrafting to vers mast on some jewelry

[muted shore]

gonna check that as well, seems like i have haste issue

[fluid cedar]

kek my cloak is vers/mast because i forgot to put my missive in the work order

honestly tho i bet its also an augury diff, that trink has been pretty huge since i got it

[proud crown]

less haste means less RSI

[modest condor]

hugahuga

[muted shore]

thats what i think about
im gonna check droptimizer and see the dps it sims with

[muted shore]

simming, lets see if it'll give any difference

okay full vers\mast crafted set gave 1.7% increase

neck, ring and cloak

[proud crown]

I also run vers mastery food instead of mainstat

[muted shore]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/enarrLoerWxAym4HxdGkhb
Okay mast\vers is the way to go

[proud crown]

[muted shore]

4,8k dps increase with this setup (and mastery food instead of primary stat one)

2.3%

[clever path]

Take it from me who ran rezan in keys since week 1 , it’s not very good

[rain wigeon]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ExcitedBitterFloofTinyFace-Ey9FA-DcMhHmckGc

[young swan]

its much too late for that

[clever path]

Why because season 2 is gonna win ?

[amber arch]

do you swap to the new build with 2pc or wait for 4?

[proud crown]

dw s1 voters will see how hopeless it is and change

[muted shore]

I dont think its augury actually, most likely combination of both + MH weapon
and thats considering i swap into Vers\Mast crafted items
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mT3eXuLfXfQQ9y244ttnUQ
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w9REF5iJuE7FkXoqnH3ZuX
weapon alone at 489 gives 1.2% which is like 2.2+k dps
so yeah its a combination of things, higher ilvl means nothing if your trinkets suck arse like mine

[clever path]

Can’t because season 1 voters already voted with all 50 characters for season 1

[muted shore]

and well youve got 1k more mastery which also helps a ton

[modest condor]

voting s1 is like voting third party in the usa

[sullen dove]

s1 is just s2 without the bullshit

[clever path]

Hey I voted season 1 with one account and season 2 with the other

Didn’t even need to vote season 3 because jobs done

Might I also say that I hope KSM mount next season should be better than season 1 and 2

I hope so at least

[modest condor]

ksm mounts are always just recolors

[spring geyser]

If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike

???

[olive wraith]

No better comparison

[clever belfry]

🚨 political reference 🚨

[sullen dove]

wots the waffling about

no one misses s2 set, stop pretending its about the set

its just about am rav

building bloodthirst is dogshit

[olive wraith]

^

[sullen dove]

you play am rav s1 too

[modest condor]

weewooweewoo

[sullen dove]

and while the s1 set is more passive i.e. more boring, prefer that any day to building a bt for 20 seconds to see it get parried

[olive wraith]

S2 woulda been cooler as a RA set I think

[clever belfry]

me when the 1912 split vote happens

[clever path]

🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨

[spring geyser]

I never had an issue with building stacks for a guaranteed crit on BT. It was a nice flow in making BT actually do some damage because historically it’s been filler and a marginal increase in enrage uptime.

[olive wraith]

Enrage uptime?

[clever belfry]

building to a nuke is neat (nuke should be bigger tho for sure)

[clever path]

But it’s boring seeing things die faster

[olive wraith]

We don’t even worry about that

[spring geyser]

Yeah, very rarely, especially with OS being used in S2

[clever path]

Agreed. Each one of our empowered bb hit harder

[olive wraith]

Even now we have really high up time

[spring geyser]

I want near 100% uptime on enrage

And reck

[clever path]

If only AM contributed to CD decrease of OF

[spring geyser]

And fatty BTs

[clever path]

Perfect world

World if AM reduced cd of OF

Did asmongold vote ?

[sullen dove]

you think he even knows the difference between any of the sets

[modest condor]

[clever path]

No , but he would have a chance at directing army of his followers to make a choice

[sullen dove]

yea, and 2/3 are the wrong choice

so better to keep him away from this

[clever path]

How many days till voting is up ?

[sullen dove]

idk 3 or 4 i thought

[clever path]

Huh I’m surprised he isn’t on this discord

He was a warrior after all

[sullen dove]

every player of a class is mandated to join their class discord

[snow edge]

EVERY player

[pliant summit]

YALL I BEG why are people voting for the same set its crazy

[snow edge]

Because people are voting for the set they enjoy playing?? I dunno doesn’t seem that crazy tbh

[pliant summit]

S2 set was the good timeline

[sullen dove]

cuz its the most well rounded set and playstyle for the majority of people, especially raid

[snow edge]

Implying that your favorite set should be everyone’s is the crazy part

[sullen dove]

we love democracy

[summer quail]

People tend to vote on the strongest set for raid

[sullen dove]

[proud crown]

I voted for fun

and healing

[pliant summit]

it aint that serious bruv damn 🤡

[proud crown]

s3 means no raging blow

[young swan]

because its the best set

[snow edge]

You’re right man I was being PRETTY SERIOUS

[pliant summit]

i mean i guess

[young swan]

s1 is unsalvagable, s2 promotes a piss diapers build for raid

[summer quail]

If 2 set could cleaved i would agree

[clever path]

I’m surprised how fast slam became a non argument

I remember before season 3 started everyone was up in arms against slam

[pliant summit]

yeah cus slam is shit house to press T_T

[clever path]

But why, it has nice umpf sound

Animation is nice too for most races

Just that slap

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-chris-rock-jada-pinkett-smith-oscars2022-smack-gif-25234614

[sullen dove]

thats like... the first non s3 enjoyer i think ive ever seen say that

o7 soldier

[clever path]

I am harmonious with warrior, whatever we will have - I’ll enjoy it

[sullen dove]

[pliant summit]

would yall rather press RB or slam doe

[clever path]

I am on a personal crusade against paladins however

[sullen dove]

id rather press slam once than rb 3 times

[clever path]

Raging blow feels too weak to press ngl

[pliant summit]

i mean yeah at the end of the day who gives a shit imma still play the class but slam is just buttcheek to me

[proud crown]

real question is would you rather spam BT and press slam sometimes, or spam RB and press BT sometimes

bt heals

so I like BT

[frosty karma]

That's why I would have S1 because execute is the hardest hitting rage generator fury has

but thats a lost cause because people think they wont tune it

[sullen dove]

i mean... not a lot of competition there 💀

and bb this season would fall under the same category

a crit buff for exe is just stupid, like in raid ashen is already 50% crit on top of our usual 20-30% crit, then another 20 from recklessness, the s1 2set is BASICALLY fucking worthless

[frosty karma]

regular rotational bloodbaths generate less rage than execute and probably about damage neutral

[sullen dove]

only realistic change is damage buff

which like aight thats prolly fine but idk nothing crazy

[clever path]

I just had a vision - blizzard releases a rune that you obtain after hitting 50 renown with dream wardens - rune that allows for 1 more independent talent point

[frosty karma]

if the annihilator node added offhand hits to BT and slam ontop of their current damage the base kit wouldn't be as wet noodl'y

[quiet bramble]

WoW, warriors are the only class NA and EU disagree on a winner

I wonder if blizzard is gonna just add the votes together

[clever path]

Yeah the rest class discords were kind of dead or just went and said “Yeah, mkay let’s vote this “

[frosty karma]

also onslaught is a fun button

[sullen dove]

its pri cool, tho id rather only fans any day of the week

[quiet bramble]

I like s3 on both arms and fury so I'm not likely changing my vote, but that fits since I'm na

[sullen dove]

like, assuming of is correct to use

[frosty karma]

annihilator removes 3 buttons and replaces them with weaker version

[sullen dove]

[dapper goblet]

Vote season 2

[quiet bramble]

I like Bloodbath, gives me dopamine

[sullen dove]

gave up on season 1 wonka

he lost the plot

[clever path]

Isn’t anni stronger then rb in pure damage?

[upbeat plume]

I mean s2 is literally 95% Rampage and RB and RB still dosent hit that hard with s2s build

[sullen dove]

eh anni usually 5% of overall

but another 10% is melee which is fun

[frosty karma]

I would much rather be pressing RB right now, especially without windfury on fyrak prog

no windfury no legendary, grey parse inc

[upbeat plume]

I mean thats good for you sure

[sullen dove]

orange parse anyway

[clever path]

This is why I play m+ instead , no one looks at my parses

[sullen dove]

no they just look at ur io

which is almost worse

even if ur io is "good" you can still be ignored

but its hard to turn away from a guy with all oranges and pinks

[clever path]

Can’t be ignored if I deplete my own keys

[sullen dove]

real

[proud crown]

[clever path]

I mean okay I 2 chested a 22 rise today

With a pug

[sullen dove]

holy

[frosty karma]

.2.5. patch without class tuning when some specs are hot dumpster fire right now

[clever path]

Maybe we won’t get tuning in 2.5 but we will get it on pirate patch

For sure

[mossy fox]

season 2 for president

[clever path]

“Fixed raging blow animation”
“Added glyph for fire effects on Odyns Fury”

Changelog for warrior from future

[dense rivet]

anyone know how much of wich stats is the perfect ratio for fury warrior?

[frosty karma]

yea I do

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear there you go

[clever path]

Sim

[keen stone]

I don't remember what was teh S2 tier bonus

[clever path]

Never ending ravager

[upbeat plume]

that wasnt the bonus that was the build

[clever path]

Mega empwered bloodthirst

[upbeat plume]

the bonus was stack up a buff and hit an occasional big bt

lol wasnt even as strong as the current bts

[mossy fox]

[warm zephyr]

guys

can you get 2 leggos axes?

[clever path]

That’s because current gives like 150% crit ?

[upbeat plume]

yes and also you didnt talent into RA so the were missing a big damage multiplier

[sullen dove]

no

[clever path]

Bruh I can’t even get one

[olive wraith]

You can’t get 2

[frosty karma]

second legendary will be ashkandur

wish gavel was supported

[north edge]

Ashkandur is better than the current Legendary

[clever path]

^

[north edge]

Atleast it doesn’t kill you if you use it at the wrong time

[frosty karma]

sim is without humanoid bonus im sure

[olive wraith]

It’s not lol

Cooler yes

[clever path]

Wait what

[north edge]

I’ve bricked a couple 25 keys using it wrong

[clever path]

Could you repeat that

[olive wraith]

But ash was like 2% non human

Well that’s not the weapons fault

It’s no boon from s1

[frosty karma]

the fact that ashkandur is rng proc vs guaranteed dot means

that it can high roll and could do double the legendaries damage in one pull

[left perch]

do you not know

[clever path]

No

[frosty karma]

legendary roots you in place for 3 seconds unable to press any defensives or other stuff

[left perch]

the on use can kill you

[clever path]

Because of root ?

[north edge]

It’s more like a stun

[left perch]

yea it’s like standing still channeling

[frosty karma]

you also often times charge into your targets tiny hitbox

even though you are in melee range

[north edge]

^

Everbloom last boss

I used it

Charged me into middle of the boss

[left perch]

haha

[north edge]

Add swirl spawns

Hits me for 1.1mil on a 25

[left perch]

could see you getting frontal too if unlucky

[clever path]

Sounds like a fun weapon to use on sanguine just before pack dies

[north edge]

Die with no bres, key bricked at 20%

The worse part is

Tank pulls 20 mobs

You think ur a gigachad using the leggo with a mass aoe

Stay at 400k dps while the dh is on the side picking his nose and watching YouTube while doing 1.2mil

[frosty karma]

if the use was uncapped it would be game changing in some pulls

boon of the end was like 10 times as good as the legendary

in a big pull

[clever path]

I already do 400k dps without legendary

[frosty karma]

even kyrian one

[left perch]

real

[frosty karma]

dH probably just pressed immo aura 2 times and ragefire exploded

[clever path]

🗑️

[north edge]

But the good thing is with warrior being in the bin

[frosty karma]

if windwalker doesnt get a rework before war within noone will

[clever path]

Do you think DHs will ever get properly nerfed ?

[north edge]

I’m already the top in warrior on my realm at 3278io, meanwhile the dh in the guild is 3400 and he’s like 17th on the realm

[frosty karma]

its rough without neutering their entire kit

everything does aoe damage in single target too

[frosty karma]

thats just the nature of people going to strong classes, so a lot of better players go on the stronger class too

[clever path]

I was doing sub 300k dps on 473 dh

[frosty karma]

hunter does the same still but dont see a lot anymore

[outer locust]

Did we get s3 warrior again?

[frosty karma]

our maintank was beating my warrior in overall on his sub 480 ilvl BM hunter

[clever path]

Balanced

[sullen tendon]

that was just talents it had nothing to dowith tier

[clever path]

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Surely you would see it

[sullen tendon]

i cant comprehend why people like season 1 and 2 playstyle

raginb blow is awful

[clever path]

People can apply same logic to annihilatior don’t you think ?

And having slam to press

[sullen tendon]

no

[clever path]

I don’t personally care , just saying

[clever path]

k

[full viper]

For me personally I don’t like Odyn Fury. I’m using an alternative build and still using ravager

So naturally I prefer s1 or s2 tier set

[sullen tendon]

do people not remember how good fury felt before ravager existed?

[sullen dove]

bladestorm mbg shadowlands

[clever path]

explain

i really want to know how bladestorm and then spamming ww

even compares to giga rage gen and rampage mashing with ravager

[sullen tendon]

im not just talking about shadowlands

even in bfa it felt better

ravager is too unreliable

and doesnt provide any utility like baldestorm does

[clever path]

wow

bladestorm utility

insane

[sullen tendon]

immunity to roots and stuns lol yea

[clever path]

bfa had blood of the enemy

[sullen tendon]

raging blow spam is also just boring

[clever path]

i love pressing bladestorm enrage falling off not doing anything as an abc spec

[sullen tendon]

when a filler ability is 90% of your rotation it sucks

[clever path]

it isnt tho

[sullen tendon]

sorry

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