but beating chicken that clearly have beak and it doesnt drop one
#fury
modern leaf
as my opener
topaz hinge
couldnt explain it
topaz hinge
😂
oblique trail
Damn kinda hard to wear not mail when you first get plate at 40
sour frigate
wet notch
Am i better off just doing heroic fyrakk for the chance at the axe or do all three in order lfr>normal>heroic?
trim cape
i saw that
vagrant spruce
Am i better off just doing heroic fyrakk for the chance at the axe or do all thr...
Just heroic.
trim cape
who posted a mechagnome in here
wet notch
Just heroic.
Thank you
wet notch
who posted a mechagnome in here
idk but that was traumatizing to look at.
wet notch
is there any transmog that actually goes well with that axe?
vagrant spruce
The warrior tier looks ok in game. I have been struggling to find a mog.
wet notch
I love the look of the axes but. I can't find ANYTHING that actually fits them besides a naked dwarf. LOL
runic pine
Probably because leveling actually is a significant part of the game and every level means something
keen forum
double wielding the mog makes it feel less legendary
vagrant spruce
lol I hit a point last night where I gave up trying to mog. I’m at 487.25ilv. Idc what I look like. Hahahahaha
keen forum
this is peak mog
runic pine
Someone say legendary?
wet notch
this is peak mog
To each their own. 🙂
vagrant spruce
Someone say legendary?
What’s the other wep mogged as. I love it.
sour frigate
Someone say legendary?
No, only [thunderfury blessed blade of the windseeker]
runic pine
What’s the other wep mogged as. I love it.
gleaming crag
I wonder if they will delete bursting next
vagrant spruce
https://www.wowhead.com/item=170124/coral-sharpened-greatsword
Thank you
celest sierra
delete fucking storming
glad coyote
storming is so easy
vagrant spruce
delete fucking storming
Agreed.
celest sierra
i rather take every single affix at once without lube then take storming solo
runic pine
Storming in WCM is so gross
glad coyote
why would you get rid of it?
runic pine
I mean it’s basically a non affix
cosmic lance
There's so many dungeons where storming is just fkn troll
glad coyote
if you think storming in WCM is bad your tank isnt pulling correctly
you pull half the dungeon outside
runic pine
But in WCM it’s so annoying
robust widget
delete fucking storming
rather have storming over spiteful
celest sierra
i mean yeh not saying stomring is hard or anything, its not an affix its just the absolute most annoying thing in this game
mossy fox
I wonder if they will delete bursting next
just spec second wind and forget bursting exists
sour frigate
i have second wind for everything
gleaming crag
bursting is just antithetical to the whole GO FURST mythic plus meta
sour frigate
fossil hatch
Best was storming on jade tempel first Boss
sour frigate
Best was storming on jade tempel first Boss
volcano at iridicron basicaly same
robust widget
just spec second wind and forget bursting exists
wait bursting doesnt count as dmg taken for secohnd wind?
runic pine
just dont go above 5 stacks
I try but other people keep it rolling
runic pine
wait bursting doesnt count as dmg taken for secohnd wind?
Nah
celest sierra
bursting is easy.. MD
runic pine
Second wind is weird
mossy fox
wait bursting doesnt count as dmg taken for secohnd wind?
correct
glad coyote
i run a premade group and non of teh affixs besides the dispell one get us really
runic pine
A lot of environmental/DoT damage just doesn’t count
glad coyote
just cause we only have 2-3 dispells
runic pine
It’s a weird talent
clever path
wait bursting doesnt count as dmg taken for secohnd wind?
This was no
robust widget
how do other dots behave, like yazmas dot for example
like the initial damage sure
sour frigate
u reflect it
clever path
Yeah you reflect it
glad coyote
yeah reflect that shit
runic pine
You reflect it
glad coyote
every other one
runic pine
Free damage
robust widget
well obviously but if i get it twice in a row
runic pine
And you take none
glad coyote
boss takes a insane amount of damage back
mossy fox
usually if you take damage from "no source" or environment, second wind doesnt get cancelled
robust widget
take any other dot, yazmas was just the first to come to mind
cosmic lance
You're still going to die to the dot because second wind takes 5s to reactivate
mossy fox
it's not 100% consistent tho, some environmental dmg still cancels it
cosmic lance
Even if the ticks dont count
mossy fox
just need to know what
glad coyote
WCM the 2nd to last boss you can also reflect the poison but thats cancer
cause it than spreads to everybody in melee
runic pine
It’s spaghetti code
clever path
WCM the 2nd to last boss you can also reflect the poison but thats cancer
I reflected it once on 25
Everyone got the poison
mossy fox
It’s spaghetti code
our spaghetti code
clever path
But me
cosmic lance
Reflect hex in atal for extra points
glad coyote
I reflected it once on 25
yeahh your supposed to taunt the lady boss and tank her and reflect the cast she does
it doesnt do alot of damage though so i dont like doing it
cosmic lance
Please be trolling
clever path
it doesnt do alot of damage though so i dont like doing it
Pointless endeavour
robust widget
usually if you take damage from "no source" or environment, second wind doesnt g...
i assume spiteful counts as a source then and therefore doesnt work with second wind?
mossy fox
i assume spiteful counts as a source then and therefore doesnt work with second ...
correct
robust widget
remove spiteful
empty grove
@mossy fox did you get your leggo?
mossy fox
i often face tank them and just outheal
no stop asking until i get it please youre hurting my feelings
glad coyote
no stop asking until i get it please youre hurting my feelings
have you seen it drop yet?
mossy fox
yes
silent burrow
I'm not using mine anymore if you wanna have it
empty grove
Trust me
mossy fox
sure
empty grove
yhoure not missing out on much
clever path
free ilvl
glad coyote
who was the guy that was getting mad at not having it
clever path
me
glad coyote
and people kept telling him he had it and he would call them bad
mossy fox
yhoure not missing out on much
when we deplete keys by sub 10 secs on clean runs, i think it would help
clever path
but not having legenary makes you emotionally stronger yknow
glad coyote
but not having legenary makes you emotionally stronger yknow
does it though?
oblique chasm
clever path
Yesterday is history, Tomorrow is a mystery, but Today is a gift. That is why it is called the present
oblique chasm
1 hour 35 mins for warrior talk with crit notes.
ember apex
bro critcake joined by text message 😭
cosmic lance
Yeah
modest condor
that's easy in time yeah
cosmic lance
16 deaths too
glad coyote
link stream
modest condor
interesting comp, an uhdk?
wild mural
epidemic OP?
left perch
Aug dead
cosmic lance
Meeres OP
cosmic lance
gonna be very tight
clever path
got ahead in meters because of ilvl increase
cosmic lance
15% 40 seconds
clever path
lets be real
cosmic lance
:/
ember apex
if i didnt get leggo, i still wouldnt have a myth track weapon
cosmic lance
10 seconds to spare
modest condor
isnt there already a 31 in time
mossy fox
you also just commit and kite for the last secs
mossy fox
isnt there already a 31 in time
prolly, easy week
modest condor
pretty sure like weeks ago already
cosmic lance
Yeah a couple i think
mossy fox
o
mossy fox
my group is down bad then
modest condor
yeah people already timed 31s previous fort week
robust widget
Echo's 31 AD now was the 8th timed one
modest condor
it's that lego diff
jolly mist
real
cosmic lance
They're first 31 without an aug i think
violet trail
imagine failing +30 atal 4 times last week
1 more reflect on last boss would have timed it for sure.
left perch
I’m barely pushing into 23s so I think I can relate pretty well @mossy fox
inland wagon
With titanic rage, does clicking odyns fury put u in enrage before doing the odyns fury dmg?
cosmic lance
Meanwhile chinese team timing 31 AD with 3 minutes spare
summer quail
With titanic rage, does clicking odyns fury put u in enrage before doing the ody...
yes
modest condor
i did my first 28 atal on wednesday (big deplete) so im kind of a big boi myself
24 deaths and 2 full wipes, but that's all fixable
past pivot
People still take titanic rage?
glad coyote
why wouldnt you?
clever path
S2 Winning?
past pivot
I assumed most people took Dancing Blades these days
glad coyote
the sims dont say to
modest condor
db is significantly more prio damage, and at least up to like 5 targets it can compete with tr fairly well, assuming trash doesn't die in like 10 seconds
as your keys go higher, prio damage becomes more important
dark elbow
someone @'d me
modest condor
in a weekly no leavers nobody cares that you did 5% more damage to the honor guard and the pack was killed equally, they just look at who did the most damage
trim cape
man how the hell are there people in my ilvl doing 80k more DPS than me
nimble basin
O.o ilvl?
oblique trail
Better at the game
trim cape
i mean yeah obviously
flat river
oh i see
trim cape
i just don't know what i'm even doing wrong, i feel like i'm pretty much playing correctly
oblique trail
Better at using their CDs, better at the rotation
cosmic lance
Depends on what content
flat river
@clever path yeah it did
oblique trail
better at padding if in raid
nimble basin
Trinkets make a big difference
oblique trail
If you're getting outdps'd by 80k on Volcoross that genuinely is just a skill issue difference
By a lot
cosmic lance
You're 100% not playing correctly if theres that big a discrepancy
And you're the same ilvl
nimble basin
Like, when you soak do you make sure you get knocked to the boss so you don't lose range to keep dpsing?
trim cape
i can post logs if you want to see them but i did like 160k, meanwhile the top gamers (and obivously i'm not going to be pink parsing ever, but still) are doing like 230k with similar gear. even comparing rotations it seems mostly the same, there's a few things that i could change that would be a bit better but i don't think the smaller optimizations will add up to 80k
nimble basin
Or do you get knocked into lava
olive wraith
Logs would help
cosmic lance
Faster kill times can make a big difference, windfury/monk buffs, pot usage
nimble basin
As someone with a pocket priest most raids. PI is revolutionary.
fossil hatch
Faster kill times can make a big difference, windfury/monk buffs, pot usage
Def Not 80k bro
dire vigil
I got an 86% parse on mythic volcoross but forgot to switch off meat cleaver and roar 😭
unreal onyx
you can still stay over 160k no matter the fight length
trim cape
Logs would help
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7tz8KdXDakvh3NJC#fight=29&type=damage-done&source=4
Here's me, this was a 58% ilvl parse which is something, at least it's blue
cosmic lance
No but if you're playing slightly poorly - and also don't have windfury/monk buff etc
Its going to widen the gap
trim cape
i have posted in log review before but there's so many logs there
storm rune
As someone with a pocket priest most raids. PI is revolutionary.
I have to constantly tell my priest to stop giving me PI lmao
nimble basin
I have to constantly tell my priest to stop giving me PI lmao
🤣
fossil hatch
If u are 80k behind u dont Player slightly poorly
oblique trail
PI matters almost nothing for Fury
cosmic lance
Im not saying hes missing 80k from a monk and windfury
nimble basin
PI matters almost nothing for Fury
Doesn't feel that way.
oblique trail
Sure, but it's not that big at all for Fury
trim cape
For context i was comparing against this one: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/f7ZLaCmAGJY6dzj9#fight=16&type=summary&source=4
nimble basin
But hey I'm not optimizing anything over here man.
dire vigil
How often are you hitting empowered bloodthirst instead of bloodbath?
trim cape
How often are you hitting empowered bloodthirst instead of bloodbath?
when i don't have better buttons to hit
dire vigil
Are you using sudden deaths over unempowered BB? Slams over whirlwinds?
trim cape
I'm certainly trying
shy knot
man how the hell are there people in my ilvl doing 80k more DPS than me
Timing is everything
dark elbow
5k vers, 3k mastery,
shy knot
also 0 mechanical mistakes
dark elbow
Little padding
trim cape
this is a relatively new character, too, it's only been 70 for like 2ish weeks. if it's a gear issue or stat optimization that's fine, that'll get smoothed out over time. more concerned if there's major rotational issues or something i'm doing fundamentally wrong
i have also generally been a ranged player for most of wow so i'm sure there's some aspects of melee i'm not great at yet
shy knot
its kinda harder this seas with the way cds are
last season youd never hold shit
just blast on cd everything
dark elbow
Which was amazing btw (dont vote S3)
olive wraith
Your opener look a little off
modest condor
the order on spear and of is wrong but otherwise it's a good opener
storm rune
Man reading fury logs is such a pain, why does OF/Ramp need 4 individual instances logged separately?
modest condor
ikr
olive wraith
Also didn’t rek before charge
modest condor
he did
cosmic lance
There's one cast at 29s where you ramp/bb/of then use a buff on a BT rather than a BB
Which isnt ideal
olive wraith
It showed between the cast and hit for me
olive wraith
The second spear/av you casted spear a little before av
modest condor
yeah that opener is off
olive wraith
In that case hold spear
storm rune
im looking at the other log lmao
fuck me too
modest condor
also didnt get cooldowns in execute phase
cosmic lance
3 mins is also a pretty bad duration fight compared to 2 mins
trim cape
Yeah I usually play with Roar, seems like Spear has different timing. Will make adjustments in the future
storm rune
I was like bruh this looks pretty clean I have no clue how he's doing 150k dps
modest condor
yeah
modest condor
i mean cooldown timings for spear and roar are the same
olive wraith
Yeah I usually play with Roar, seems like Spear has different timing. Will make ...
Not really. You still wanna roar after av
trim cape
yeah I usually roar after OF/av
dire vigil
Couple things I noticed: you didn’t recklessness before charge, then you use a bloodbath before casting 1st Odyn’s fury
olive wraith
Couple of smaller things I noticed during your first reck window you ended up casting execute.
trim cape
am i supposed to do the same timing for spear or does spear go down before cooldowns?
modest condor
on opener:
reck > charge > rampage > of > spear/roar > bb > ramp > bb+ava > etc.
olive wraith
Usually we can spam ramp-bb. Don’t worry about sd falling off
modest condor
otherwise depending on whether you have OF up or not you either do the same sequence (minus charge ofcourse) or just use avatar before spear
lime ice
Is bb prio or execute ?
shy knot
Big BBs
dire vigil
Pot before pull-reck + trink - charge -rampage-OF-Spear-bloodbath + rampage 3x-Avatar-bloodbath rampage 3x
modest condor
you wouldnt wait 3 full ramp/bb before you avatar
then you're just sending shit without 20% damage buff for no reason
you just need to make sure you don't waste any OF damage from sending avatar too early
trim cape
i just wait until i see my model get smaller/camera lowers
dire vigil
I feel like that quick BB + Ramp 3x is about 4 sec
compact reef
hi.. returning player.. is fury nice atm? or i should go arms? thanks
trim cape
the reason i was doing 3x was because i didn't want to waste empowered BTs or anything, but is it smarter to not do it that way?
dire vigil
Meh maybe I’m wrong. I usually send avatar with 1 stack of empower BB left
modest condor
you'll get 2 or 3 depending on haste more abilities before avatar falls off
dire vigil
So then I’ll have 4 stacks to use with main avatar active
modest condor
you dont waste empowered bbs by sending avatar
dire vigil
I know
olive wraith
Arms is sadly in a bad place but still able to do all content
So it’s more playstyle pref
dire vigil
Yeah, they’ll stack up to 6, but you also want to have max Dancing Blades uptime
trim cape
i didnt know they stacked lmao
dire vigil
Like you wouldn’t want to hit OF spear Avatar B2B
modest condor
dancing blades is an afterthought on the opener
trim cape
that makes that so much easier
modest condor
the important one is not wasting OF damage and keeping up avatar
olive wraith
You’re gonna lose DB uptime no matter what on the opener
dire vigil
Hmmm good point, see I learned good tech too! Probably was wasting a tick of OF dot without extra 20%
modest condor
no, the avatar proc from OF has the same duration
it's more that you're probably using an empowered bb without avatar
if you wait too long with avatar
man i cant type
dire vigil
That too, all of it -20% for that 1-2 GCD
trim cape
I'm glad I asked then
that all helped
also fight duration kinda sucks, just long enough that i can't use cooldowns agai nbefore end
modest condor
on opener:
reck > charge > rampage > of > spear/roar > bb > ramp > bb+ava > etc.
just follow this for opener, use pot/trinket somewhere before you use OF because that's where the burst happens
modest condor
also fight duration kinda sucks, just long enough that i can't use cooldowns aga...
yeah this is something you'll just have to learn from experience, if you can't get another set of cooldowns off you should save your 1.5minutes until execute instead
your kill was 3:07 which is really unfortunate
storm rune
I'm noticing some odd things, like I'm just comparing to my log from last month, kill time 3:13 and you have 40 fewer auto attacks than I even though you have about 1000 more haste than I did
modest condor
but if it's like 2:30 you should be able to tell when your cds come back up that you won't get another use so you should hold them until the boss drops below 35%
olive wraith
That could be a mix of which way they’re facing during mechanics
Or if they run out for stuff
modest condor
or windfury
indigo quarry
i voted for S1 for fury are you guys happy
storm rune
oh yeah no WF in their group
olive wraith
I don’t think 40 auto attacks are a big deal
dire vigil
Can a stationary boss parry you?
indigo quarry
40 AA is a shitload of AA
modest condor
no
dire vigil
Ok lmao, that’s what I figured
storm rune
Nah didn't take WF into consideration, but otherwise I was thinking 40 AA's is a lot of attack downtime with a difference of 5 seconds
olive wraith
Db?
modest condor
he has 85%, that's high enough
dire vigil
@trim cape if you reck before charge, you’ll immediately be able to pop a rampage, OF, Spear, BB. And if possible, try to fill a GCD to pool rage for a rampage to get empowered BBs over BTs. I RARELY hit empowered BT. It’s typically a mistake vs a calculated decision.
gleaming crag
#showtooltip
/cast bloodbath
/cast rampage
im lazy so I just use that
dire vigil
Like “shit shouldn’t have hit that button, could’ve slammed or whirlwinded”. Because you’re gonna have to push those buttons in the rotation in the next couple seconds, so might as well ensure you’re maxing your bloodthirst/bloodbath GCD
upbeat sentinel
modest condor
upbeat sentinel
LFR brain strikes again
modest condor
can confirm i dont use legendary
clever path
flat river
can confirm i dont use legendary
real
dire vigil
I don’t use, cuz I don’t have. 😭
flat river
real
upbeat sentinel
“Frost and unholy dk? It’s not good for them. Arms warriors? Na”
flat river
frost uses double 1-hander, duh
upbeat sentinel
Breath is so ass man
flat river
if your fingers don't hurt after playing fury then you're not playing it right
dire vigil
It’s less so this season though
clever path
if your fingers don't hurt after playing fury then you're not playing it right
i dont even want to know how your fingers look like with your binds
wild mica
the harder and faster you hit the buttons the more dps you do
upbeat sentinel
Heroic does not need to be nerfed more 💀
past pivot
My fingers hurt far less now since I don't have to open any more greater embers
clever path
the harder and faster you hit the buttons the more dps you do
ayooo thats fax
upbeat sentinel
There’s 20 PUGs for it at all times
storm rune
I was afraid swapping to fury this tier about how much my hands would hurt, turns out it's basically the same CPM as Prot and I was worried over nothing
upbeat sentinel
Wearing a ring while you’re gaming to ward off the egirls
dire vigil
That keyboard ashy as hell
dire vigil
Wearing a ring while you’re gaming to ward off the egirls
Good tech
clever path
your keyboard looks like my laptop pre cleaning
flat river
Wearing a ring while you’re gaming to ward off the egirls
real
dire vigil
Is that a lawnmower?
upbeat sentinel
WHAT
clever path
flat river
do u want to see how dirty my deskpad is?
pliant ridge
I want fury rotation to be finger breaking fast, S3 sucks it's too slow
clever path
do u want to see how dirty my deskpad is?
go on
olive wraith
I want fury rotation to be finger breaking fast, S3 sucks it's too slow
Its barely slower than s2
upbeat sentinel
I want fury rotation to be finger breaking fast, S3 sucks it's too slow
Less buttons but we press them more
dire vigil
I’m still doubling up guildies on APM in raid..
olive wraith
We have same amount of buttons
upbeat sentinel
Just Bloodbath with no CD or proc needed
pliant ridge
It's definitely like 30% slower
olive wraith
It’s not 30% slower
flat river
go on
There's ketchup, mayo, soy sauce, wasabi, rice, crumbs, that one forbidden drink i made one time, coffee, tea, and more i forget
flat river
i washed it once
clever path
thats gaming
flat river
real
wild mica
wtf
dire vigil
There's ketchup, mayo, soy sauce, wasabi, rice, crumbs, that one forbidden drink...
Looks like an elementary school blacktop at recess
olive wraith
It's definitely like 30% slower
Think we lose like 4 apm
storm rune
Our APM is inflated by Ramp tho, CPM is somewhat higher than average but not far off from other melee DPS specs and still less than some tanks
dire vigil
Oh shit, rampage counts as 4 APM?
modest condor
3 but yeah
clever path
keeps my desk clean
may i ask what keeps your from cleaning it
like is there a reason to have it that dirty
flat river
may i ask what keeps your from cleaning it
i don't know how
clever path
to those wasabi kethcup mayo stains remind you of something?
maybe its a secret to big dps?
flat river
to those wasabi kethcup mayo stains remind you of something?
sushi!
what you think is a mess is my clean
xd
it also keeps my cousins from going onto my PC
clever path
Nice detterent
pest control
how about setting a password and stuff
that doesnt work?
pliant ridge
Okay actual math S3 is ~15% slower than S2
flat river
I sweat so much i destroyed the armrest XD
pliant ridge
And it sucks
clever path
I sweat so much i destroyed the armrest XD
this should be pinned
thats how every warrior table and armrests should look like
modern leaf
do I lose the dmg from mastery on my odyns fury if I use a macro opener with reck+avatar in combination with titans torment?
muted shore
Lads is it normal that I sometimes end up waiting for rage because no Bloodthirst, strike or rampage available?
flat river
though qwerty keys stopped working for 2 days
storm rune
Lads is it normal that I sometimes end up waiting for rage because no Bloodthirs...
means you're not bloodthirsting enough
wild mica
your room must smell like a smash bros tournament
flat river
it smells like food
pliant ridge
Lads is it normal that I sometimes end up waiting for rage because no Bloodthirs...
Another reason S3 rotation sucks, yes you end up waiting in the middle of your rotation for rage
flat river
even my mom plugs her nose and asks "what's that smell?!"
clever path
i dont have a mom
lofty delta
Is our APL updated for sim profiles other than patchwerk?
flat river
i dont have a mom
clever path
but my wife sometimes acts like that
eternal sundial
Is our APL updated for sim profiles other than patchwerk?
aoe apl works since its just press ww
clever path
and when we game in the evening i hear her talk to prot paladins
modest condor
Is our APL updated for sim profiles other than patchwerk?
not particularly, there has been some work done behind the scenes but i dont think that ever got added to the default apl
flat river
and when we game in the evening i hear her talk to prot paladins
pinkclass, break up.
lofty delta
not particularly, there has been *some* work done behind the scenes but i dont t...
So patchwerk is the only good sim? Even dungeon Slice is not good?
muted shore
means you're not bloodthirsting enough
past pivot
It's ok but our profile is almost the same. Just use your top gear profile for MT and swap trinkets out
flat river
my business ethics lecture, SEE I TOLD YOU MY BUILDS WORK!
eternal sundial
slice functionally works but requires some logic with how cds are used and we prolly didnt care for it
eternal sundial
my business ethics lecture, SEE I TOLD YOU MY BUILDS WORK!
business ethics is getting that lockhead martin internship
flat river
all of you are sheep
muted shore
Another reason S3 rotation sucks, yes you end up waiting in the middle of your r...
jokes on that rotation i do more dmg than in arms somehow apparently
and i mean in ST
storm rune
<:keks:936231610850897992>
Oh no I'm being serious, the reason you run out of rage is by casting Ramp too quickly, gotta weave in an extra rotation of BT+Slam/WW occasionally before rampaging
trim cape
yeah this is something you'll just have to learn from experience, if you can't g...
Once I'm in execute phase, execute is a higher priority than BB right? I know someone posted it yesterday
clever path
all of you are sheep
no
i believed in cooking
stop calling me sheep
cookign is real
cook until you get cocked
flat river
dire vigil
Once I'm in execute phase, execute is a higher priority than BB right? I know so...
No, a talent you take increases BT damage in execute phase.
clever path
i just bought blackrock bulwark shield from ah by accident
and now i have 250k gold left
flat river
goofy aah moment
clever path
not enough to buy fyrrak boost next week
naive summit
yo
clever path
naive summit
bloodthirst or execute in aoe
flat river
always BT
naive summit
kk
naive summit
and this is because OF reset and cshb?
dire vigil
Non-Ex phase= empowered BB>Execute Sudden Death>normal BB… Ex phase empowered BB>normal BB>execute. Idk about normal bloodthirst in execute phase though, I think still execute over normal bloodthirst
naive summit
this is with ashen?
dire vigil
Yeeee makes sense
naive summit
and what about in aoe u never take ashen in aoe
also i feel like bloodthirst gets more value because OF pumps hard in aoe
eternal sundial
i mean its just not a thing u ever encounter
muted shore
Oh no I'm being serious, the reason you run out of rage is by casting Ramp too q...
I see, so stack more rage before rampage
i just tried it and almost never got out of buttons, but i press WW as well
is it worth to use WW? its on 5 sec cd anyway
eternal sundial
technically VC is worse than AJ is TURBO sustained aoe
but that doesnt happen in keys or raid
storm rune
yeah WW is necessary to the rotation
eternal sundial
itd be like a 2nd boss VOTI vibe
dire vigil
Whirlwind annihilator until whirlwind back up. Repeat for AOE rotation
naive summit
so in in keys while doing aoe. Whirlwind(if no meatcleaver)>BB>rampage>bloodthirst>execute>slam>whirlwind
in single target BB>rampage>execute>bloodthirst>slam>whirlwind?
storm rune
I see, so stack more rage before rampage
i just tried it and almost never got ou...
So you Ramp > BB > Slam > BT > WW > BT > Ramp > BB and just remove the WW > BT step if you're already close to capping rage
eternal sundial
so in in keys while doing aoe. Whirlwind(if no meatcleaver)>BB>rampage>bloodthir...
yuh
naive summit
bet
eternal sundial
bt>ramp if enraged and it wont cap u
naive summit
also
eternal sundial
in st
eternal sundial
nah just bt
naive summit
kk, also when do u use the legendary?
modest condor
when you dont have cooldowns up and you just used bb generally
naive summit
ah i see
modest condor
it just takes the place of a filler
naive summit
i've been doing it when i have 80 rage so that i can enrage immidieatly after
modest condor
a 3 second filler that roots you in place
storm rune
Yeah it takes priority over Slam/WW basically, unless lusted
naive summit
oh wait no its 1.2%
flat river
250k crafting and 10+ hours to get leggo
and for what
1.2% xtra dmg
and transmog
and u get t flex on people
arctic copper
i mean the ilvl is nice, that's a good 10K dps boost
flat river
good deal right here
arctic copper
but that's about it
storm rune
Relative to the permanent augment rune it's similar in both time and DPS
naive summit
the active effect needs to be hasted, do 100% more dam, and be usable while moving for this to be a real legendary
nova garnet
Relative to the permanent augment rune it's similar in both time and DPS
Not even close lol
storm rune
the diff I mean
naive summit
i press it and honestly dont even notice a difference in the targets hp
naive summit
Augment rune is like 0.7% dps
wait thats almost like a socket
i need to get that
whats the fastest way to get it
past pivot
Buy it at renown 18
wild mica
if you had been doing the weeklies you would have it right now
nova garnet
Degen things
wild mica
the degen things dont work anymore
nova garnet
To get it week 1/2
storm rune
well technically the fastest way is to get an alt to level 10 renown then farm again on your main
nova garnet
the degen things dont work anymore
You can literally just do flowers
clever path
Didnt half of echo or something get blasted by suspensions or whatever
after using exxploit
nova garnet
And campaign
wild mica
You can literally just do flowers
flowers stop giving rep after like 5, they fixed that a few days in
nova garnet
Degen doant mean exploit
flat river
it's joever
nova garnet
It means fucking planting seeds 28 hours a day for a week
clever path
sus
past pivot
The rune is account bound. Once you get level 18, you can buy it on any toon
clever path
explain what degeoun things mean
nova garnet
flowers stop giving rep after like 5, they fixed that a few days in
False
They give 250 for first 5
Then they give.... Five
It's something like get to renown 10 on alt, race change human, do all the shit on a fresh cHraxter, plant seeds for 180 hours
flat river
fuck
wild mica
how recently have you tried, because unless im just bugged flowers stop giving rep, they dont even give the 5 they used to give
nova garnet
And you'll get it
flat river
i forgot i made plans with my friends tommorrow
nova garnet
how recently have you tried, because unless im just bugged flowers stop giving r...
They do, have to be blue / purple
Green don't give rep
fickle bluff
how recently have you tried, because unless im just bugged flowers stop giving r...
you still need atleast 50% in the seed
flat river
i don't wanna touch grass
wild mica
yeah i know, and they still dont give rep
fickle bluff
and you need to contribute
nova garnet
As of yesterday
muted shore
So you Ramp > BB > Slam > BT > WW > BT > Ramp > BB and just remove the WW > BT s...
wait whats BB?
storm rune
bloodbath, the empowered bloodthirst
clever path
whos the biggest wow content milker on youtube
besides asmonbaldino
who just dooms
modest condor
that one lore guy
flat river
that one lore guy
love him
clever path
which one
flat river
villins corner
muted shore
okay now im starting to understand the idea
need to try it more on bosses
btw
Idol good for fury?
flat river
hirumaredx
modest condor
i just know there's a guy that does a lot of lore videos and every time he gets brought up people call him a doomer
nah not hiruma
bellular
that's the guy
naive summit
yo these are the quests i have in emerald dream. are these side quests worth doing or should i just do campaign?
flat river
yo these are the quests i have in emerald dream. are these side quests worth doi...
bro wtf
nova garnet
yo these are the quests i have in emerald dream. are these side quests worth doi...
Clean up your minimap
flat river
get minimapbuttonbutton
nova garnet
Jesus Christ
clever path
get minimapbuttonbutton
what is that
nova garnet
Women like a clean minimap
storm rune
btw
Idol good for fury?
Basic rule for the rotation, if you can squeeze in another BT without capping rage, then do it. Generally that line is drawn somewhere around 100-110. Idol is OK for ST, bad for aoe.
flat river
what is that
ill show u sec
naive summit
so yo
naive summit
which quests give dream wardens rep?
muted shore
Basic rule for the rotation, if you can squeeze in another BT without capping ra...
thank you, im learning it!
naive summit
cmn guys i need renown 18 for my paaarrrsee
muted shore
so then i can use Rezan+Idol for ST and Rezan+Sandglass for aoe
nova garnet
Incel energy
muted shore
dont have other options sadly...
naive summit
i think augment rune is once of my biggest upgrades rn
flat river
what is that
nova garnet
Tidy house = doesn't smell bad
If you have a bad minimap your room is probably disgusting
flat river
my room is disguting though
storm rune
Sandglass is way better for aoe and comparable in ST to idol
nova garnet
my room is disguting though
Show proof
flat river
did u not see the pictures?
muted shore
Sandglass is way better for aoe and comparable in ST to idol
raidbots says idol 0.6% better than sandglass so i decided to keep it
since i won it anyway lol
wish i could win pip but meh, lost my roll on it
nova garnet
That looks fine
It's a keyboard
Show me your floor
When was last time you vacuum
storm rune
Pip is nice but Might is nicer, don't worry about losing the roll, there are better options available
flat river
Show me your floor
its clean
nova garnet
There we go
flat river
we have a made that cleans rooms everyday
nova garnet
See?
flat river
but my desk is personal
nova garnet
That's fair
Keyboards are dirtier than public bathroom toilets
So being like look how dirty it is is
I'm like ???
flat river
real
nova garnet
Keyboards are nasty cesspools
Yeah
Look into just how dirty keyboards actually are
One of the dirtiest most toxic things in your life
storm rune
Nah that's reserved for my exes
nova garnet
Nah that's reserved for my exes
If you have multiple toxic exes, you're the problem
storm rune
Oh nah, I'm just poly
edgy widget
seems like a great time for a new topic
wild mural
muted shore
So you Ramp > BB > Slam > BT > WW > BT > Ramp > BB and just remove the WW > BT s...
Thank yo uso much again
i just came to complete understanding of this rotation and now it feels very fluent
storm rune
Yeahp, and exe phase rotation is even more fluid once you get the hang of it
flat river
archimos rn
nova garnet
Archimtiros this summer
storm rune
Big HR energy
muted shore
Yeahp, and exe phase rotation is even more fluid once you get the hang of it
i just replace WW or slam with Exe and it becomes even better
storm rune
Pretty much, exe is enough rage that you can cut out Slam/WW entirely, so you do something like Ramp > BB > Exe > BT, and then every couple of rounds of rotations you'll have enough rage banked that you can just Ramp > BB back to back
muted shore
Yes thats exactly what how it goes like
And i like it
i got used to Arms prio spam and now this one actually feels like a rotation
frigid zealot
One of the dirtiest most toxic things in your life
Thought that was the cod lobbies back in the youthful days
Many people apparently have fucked my mom
muted shore
Pretty much, exe is enough rage that you can cut out Slam/WW entirely, so you do...
Casn you also give an example for opening? i do it like:
Charge-Odin's-BT-Slam\ExecProc-Ramp -> Avatar+Reck + Spear -> BB->Ramp spam
storm rune
The opener is pretty well defined at this point
modest condor
on opener:
reck > charge > rampage > of > spear/roar > bb > ramp > bb+ava > etc.
this is the proper opener
muted shore
on opener:
reck > charge > rampage > of > spear/roar > bb > ramp > bb+ava > etc.
Oh okay got it will try to learn it
storm rune
And yeah swapping from arms to fury this tier was such a improvement gameplay-wise, just miss having the right stats to be able to tank
gleaming crag
so are they going to add atleast new colors to the recycled tier set look ?
young swan
i will
muted shore
Tank stats don’t matter
-prot channel
actually this
storm rune
Fuck survival, I want DPS
muted shore
I tank in dps gear with some added vers ring and helmet
storm rune
And I'm like 5k haste short of being where I should be lol
young swan
im an expert yapper
opal monolith
Are the Tindal nerfs huge?
modest condor
yes
modest condor
dont expect the boss to just fall over in 1 night tho
frigid zealot
im an expert yapper
modest condor
i havent
frigid zealot
It's easily a 3 night boss now
opal monolith
You need kipo back
modest condor
you mean kæpo?
opal monolith
Ye kipo was his original name but kæpo now
We are friends he told me you guys raided together:p
modest condor
his character was called dari first time i played with him
opal monolith
Ye his monk
modest condor
yeah
modest condor
muted shore
on opener:
reck > charge > rampage > of > spear/roar > bb > ramp > bb+ava > etc.
After this
how do i use my cds? OF, Reck and Ava?
I can Reck+ava together later
OF just on CD i assume?
modest condor
yep
muted shore
got it, thanks!
modest condor
if of happens to come off cd at the same time as reck and avatar you just do the same sequence as above where you first use of and then when the procced avatar is about to fall off you send the normal avatar
muted shore
got it
civic sluice
Hes retired now , wasting his life on selling boosts for nova
Toxic
I'm not retired
I'm just too challenged to play the game
pallid hull
guys what trinket is better in m+ hourglass or serpent?
fleet sorrel
muted shore
guys what trinket is better in m+ hourglass or serpent?
I got answer not so long ago
Serpent idol - ST
Sandglass - better for AoE
runic pine
my man is using EB
olive wraith
Looks like a key
runic pine
def overalls
thorny lily
guys, change anything put shadowflame on cloak or belt ?
oblique trail
No it doesn't care what item it's on
thorny lily
ok ty
cerulean laurel
Hi, is the sim correct to use Thunderous Roar before avatar buff in AOE?
should be after odyn's fury and stats trinket right?
oblique trail
Is this an AoE sim
cerulean laurel
5 targets
oblique trail
Yeah that's the issue
cerulean laurel
it's doing it after in ST
oblique trail
The APL hasn't been updated for AoE properly yet
The order of CDs is the same in AoE and ST
cerulean laurel
this is ST sim
oblique trail
Yes that's the proper order
cerulean laurel
thanks
oblique trail
Only caveat is that you'd want to use reck before charge, the sim just uses both exactly at the same time
sage smelt
stupiid question, are pot and reck on the gcd, or could you macro those into a charge?
oblique trail
They're not on the GCD, so you can technically macro them together
cerulean laurel
it's worth to lose the travle time of reck?
upbeat swan
stupiid question, are pot and reck on the gcd, or could you macro those into a c...
No they aren't but it wouldn't be worth it
oblique trail
But it's not generally recommended to do this, and if you really do macro it together, you want to make sure you have separate binds as well
oblique trail
it's worth to lose the travle time of reck?
You reck before charge to have enough rage to instantly rampage
sage smelt
yup 1 is reg charge, shift 1 is macro charge
cerulean laurel
You reck before charge to have enough rage to instantly rampage
ohh cool, thanks
naive summit
why is it that half the time i press leggo i end up dead on the floor
for such a high risk button you would think it would do more than 1.2k dps
red glen
My time 😄
nova garnet
Many people apparently have fucked my mom
Chances are
there are a lot :kekw:
Jujst not those in the lobbies
dense elbow
red glen
:))))
flat river
hmm, i wonder which boss we're at...
past pivot
Like S1 when there'd be 20 evokers
royal wedge
Guys can some explane my if u should press lego at all ? Or in birust or after or what ever ? xD
flat river
Like S1 when there'd be 20 evokers
S2*
past pivot
That too
flat river
season 1 was hunters
past pivot
Guys can some explane my if u should press lego at all ? Or in birust or after o...
Read the pins
somber token
No
flat river
wish me not them
muted shore
wish me luck on leggo
break a leg
or break something idk
Fyrakk or whatever
break Caldorei spirit
past pivot
Have 3 plate toons. Have also done Fry on various difficulties including HC on 2 other toons and only seen the leggo drop once. Am on a crowded server and see the leggo out and about a lot now. And lots of people were farming for it. But only that 1 drop in any of the raids.
merry arch
wish me luck on leggo
i wish you a merry christmas
past pivot
^^
young swan
which honestly they might do with the "rebalancing/retuning" in s4
covert blaze
they just need to make the 2 set cleave
baseg
fading sky
if u play arms its very good
summer quail
they just need to make the 2 set cleave
even just the 100% crit chance and not the damage amp would help alot
sour frigate
ember any good?
Huge
summer quail
cshb
slim coral
which honestly they might do with the "rebalancing/retuning" in s4
Nah do it right meow
worldly shard
i have 489rezan+489might+avoidance atm as my trinks
young swan
Nah do it right meow
they said they arent gonna do it until u watch my video sorry gg
worldly shard
tier head is hero track
oblique trail
I'd use Might + Ember in keys then
past pivot
Ember is a very good choice. Also, helm enchant scales with ilvl so don't sleep on that
sour frigate
I'd use Might + Ember in keys then
I do
flat river
no leggo weapon ;-;
worldly shard
guess ill sim
flat river
some guy named Pocah got it though
sour frigate
476 might
Will roll into 483 sandglass
static ore
My single target DPS seems to be really low. I'm sitting at 145k or so, with food buff, glyph, and weapon stones. No elemental potion. I'm going OF/Av (using Spear amd reck if their up. Not using either if I can't also use OF/Av on them), BT > Ramp > Exe > Slam > WW for priority. I'm getting a BT attack off every other GCD unless OF is up. My ilevel is 481. I'm normally tank, so needing to learn to actually care about my DPS as fury
worldly shard
last 5vaults, 489hands,489gorehowl,489rezan,489might+avoidance,489legs
and now 489ember
most werent even full vaults
2-3slots
past pivot
last 5vaults, 489hands,489gorehowl,489rezan,489might+avoidance,489legs
Do you have Auguy and leggo?
past pivot
Save up that luck then lol
worldly shard
rolled a 100 on the prot warr 1hander
slim coral
Where is anda
sour frigate
Time to reroll
slim coral
I miss that guy
flat river
Time to reroll
real
static ore
Any suggestions for ways to train/review what I am fucking up?
slim coral
yes
clever path
last 5vaults, 489hands,489gorehowl,489rezan,489might+avoidance,489legs
489 tier 489 tier 489 might socket socket
all slots
besides pvp
worldly shard
i only need to replace my ring
slim coral
Any suggestions for ways to train/review what I am fucking up?
Train in a hyperboloic time chamber
sour frigate
Any suggestions for ways to train/review what I am fucking up?
Check your logs and top gamers
static ore
Train in a hyperboloic time chamber
I did, my tank stats stronk now
young swan
Any suggestions for ways to train/review what I am fucking up?
watch good players, learn to read logs and compare yourself to good players
sour frigate
Run quick sim it shows average rotation
static ore
Check your logs and top gamers
I was using wowanalyzer but it hasn't been updated in ages, so I use the log analyzer site to see where I stand, and I'm always 50-80% DPS but 20-50% ilevel
sour frigate
I mean
static ore
Run quick sim it shows average rotation
in raidbots?
past pivot
Don't use wowanalzyer
sour frigate
Check it yourself not analizer
sour frigate
in raidbots?
Yes
static ore
yeah, I don't any more, I used it many expacs ago, and then went prot and didn't need to worry about it
past pivot
Honestly. Go out and play.
static ore
I know one issue I'm working on is staying stakced on the targets. Not something I had to worry about for the last ~5 years, got to get used to it again
slim coral
watch good players, learn to read logs and compare yourself to good players
wath my vods and you will become the best fury warrior possible
true
young swan
it rings a little less true not because our entire rotation is cd based so if you play it wrong ur just not gonna have something to press
but in general the sentiment still applies
static ore
Working on that. End up casting Execute/Slam a few times right as ramp comes up, but I'd rather have something then maybe something
young swan
pressing a button will, on average, always be better than not pressing a button
young swan
Working on that. End up casting Execute/Slam a few times right as ramp comes up,...
thats fine, correct even
restive peak
BT/BB EOGCD unless you have stacks and haven't procced reck for BB as well
static ore
EOGCD?
static ore
yes, that I do. I don't have a tracker for BB/BT stacks, so I just cast it EOGCD. I should get that
restive peak
Example you should never Slam>Ramp>BB unless you'd drop reck, it would be BT/BB>Slam>BT>Ramp>BB
Well if you're wasting OF stacks on BT you're losing substantial DPS
sinful spoke
anyone got a WA that makes a noise everytime the cd on of is reduced
i want like a casino machine
noise
hasty path
That sounds awful
oblique trail
That would sound horrible
static ore
Well if you're wasting OF stacks on BT you're losing substantial DPS
which OF stacks are you referring too?
slim coral
that sounds like a headache
hasty path
This u?
slim coral
why would anyone want that
sinful spoke
https://tenor.com/view/casino-oldpeople-oldpeopleonslots-slots-vegas-gif-2758608...
yes
restive peak
which OF stacks are you referring too?
OF stacks when used proccing BB/BT buff
sinful spoke
why would anyone want that
just cause
worldly shard
https://tenor.com/view/casino-oldpeople-oldpeopleonslots-slots-vegas-gif-2758608...
vault on wednesday
after reset
hasty path
vault on wednesday
EU 🥴
static ore
so only use that proc on bloodbath?
sour frigate
U should fit 2 empowered bloodbath in avatar from signet proc tho
sour frigate
Ahh, okay. Time to fine some good WAs for this
No need really
clever path
U should fit 2 empowered bloodbath in avatar from signet proc tho
signet
static ore
No need really
Just do OF -> Rampage -> BB -> Ramp -> BB. Is it worth doing execute/slam over a BT if Ramp/BB isn't up?
restive peak
You ramp then OF
Btw
Do not OF without enrage
And if that means during a fight you'd ideally ramp then OF even then, so you get 2 Avatar buffed BBs out
sour frigate
Just do OF -> Rampage -> BB -> Ramp -> BB. Is it worth doing execute/slam over a...
No
Recklessness > charge > rampage > of (trinket+prepot) > bb > rampage > bb > avatar > rampage > bb > rinsenrepeat
sour frigate
Avatar with spear/roar
oblique trail
After OF
clever path
why?
static ore
Avater even if the OF buff is still active, or wait for the 10 second buff to go away?
oblique trail
Because OF gives you Avatar
restive peak
Ofc w avatar, you'll always have avatar and if you run Uproar you just use it with an OF avatar proc
clever path
my opener looks like this
Reck/MOTTO -> charge > ramp (or bt if no proc) -> OF -> (4sec bleed wait and do some Bt -> Avatar
and then i roar
sour frigate
I have avatar with roar/spear macro fits ok 
restive peak
You should roar after OF Judge
sour frigate
shadowlands legendary
clever path
still unbeliavble that UI was fucking up my dps so baadly
restive peak
Roar is big damdam
clever path
i rose from 190k to 210k average
restive peak
Gamer
mild kraken
I see big Tindral nerfs….