#fury

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oblique trail
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But I cba

dull sierra
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i like the reck charge

unreal onyx
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I reck-charge-ramp-of

restive peak
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Depends if you're doing lust on pull strat, or if you're 1st/2nd flight etc

unreal onyx
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propably not the best

wild mica
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im 3.2 right now and got title in s1 but yeah sure

oblique trail
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Doing first flight

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And not lusting on pull

restive peak
wild mural
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i hit my keyboard in my face and prayge

wild mica
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i know its mediocre

dull sierra
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we do healing lust

wild mica
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we arent pushing lmao

restive peak
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And let me guess, 9/9 heroic?

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0 pulls on any of the final 3 bosses on mythic?

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But saying they're easy?

wild mica
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i feel like you're thinking im attacking you. i literally said i havent raided seriously this expansion

restive peak
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I think people who say stupid things like "Mythic is ez just need 20 people to exist" are actual morons

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And it is arrogance and stupidity, or trolling, there's no in between for it

proud crown
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I think mythic is easy

cosmic lance
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I don't think many last mythic bosses have had 5 sale slots at all have they?

restive peak
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Never

restive peak
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2 max on easy 1s, 1 otherwise

gilded belfry
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You cant did the same opener on every boss.
Depend where its tanked, lust, leg, etc..

cosmic lance
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You might get 2 or 3 once you're giga geared

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On an easier tier

proud crown
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if my guild can get multiple CEs then anyone with half a brain can

restive peak
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I remember selling 2 carries to Nzoth end of tier, but Nzoth was an easy endboss

proud crown
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with enough time

restive peak
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Getting CE end of tier vs HOF is night and day

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The amount of nerfs by the time most CE guilds get CE is literally a different boss

still swift
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i could have gotten hof sylvanas but i chose to quit and kill it on last day

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still the same thing

eternal sundial
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we can pride ourselves not being world last

still swift
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=)

wanton mirage
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Can anyone link me a string from simc for heroic augury?

restive peak
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For example if you kill smolder this week, you're killing a 20% nerfed version

cosmic lance
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Most HoF guilds are killing heavily nerfed version of the bosses

restive peak
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Already

cosmic lance
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Let alone people getting CE at the end

proud crown
eternal sundial
eternal sundial
restive peak
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Sark was wild

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Lewl

still swift
eternal sundial
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bro our sark kill ye

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p1 was bugged and all rally stuff was nerfed

restive peak
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Fyrakk is honestly the BIS end raid boss this expac for me, personally.

cosmic lance
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Al literally every subsequent kill is also stealing the strats and weakauras from the top guilds

eternal sundial
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p1 damage intake was up by 40%

restive peak
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I'm having an absolute blast on fyrakk

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LOL yeah

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Bugged sark was a blast

still swift
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rasz was the most fun endboss this tier but only cuz i could join pugs and levitate them off platforms on knockbacks

eternal sundial
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absolutely

cosmic lance
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Try doing these bosses if that shit was never made public

still swift
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convincing them to think their char is bugged

eternal sundial
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bugged hp increas rasz too

unreal onyx
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rasz was demonic for pugs

wild mural
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I got an incredible parse

restive peak
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Syi the gamer BROTHERRRRR all day errday

restive peak
unreal onyx
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syi can say they got a kill on one of the last 3

wild mural
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Now keep ur panties on for this ladies

unreal onyx
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not nessesarily a good one

restive peak
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LOLOL

unreal onyx
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but kill is kill

restive peak
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BROTHERR HOW

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I'm proud of you

wild mural
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i died on kill; pull

restive peak
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We got fyrakky to 30ish % last night

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He dies Monday baybeeeee

wild mural
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cause I was watching youtube and missed an orb

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and ran for it

restive peak
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1st tier as a group, top 30ish NA, I'll take it

wild mural
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and ate circle

rigid stirrup
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Warrior pov dragonflight bosses tier list when

restive peak
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xD

oblique trail
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Who watches youtube during prog

still swift
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me

restive peak
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My 2nd monitor has Banezi on it

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For motivation

oblique trail
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You're a creature Nani

still swift
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i have youtube twitch and some other games open during prog

restive peak
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Gotta make him proud

eternal sundial
oblique trail
still swift
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i got sark ce while doing ff14 raids

restive peak
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Bro swapped to NE lost 1.8k on sims, wtf

clever path
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the only things i have re aotcs

restive peak
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Human busted bigtime

clever path
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and thats it

eternal sundial
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no harm in trying raid

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mythic is fun

restive peak
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I'll eventually revert back to being an AOTC gamer

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One day

still swift
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wicked

clever path
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i dont doubt that its fun

restive peak
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The wife wants kids eventually

eternal sundial
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i cant escape it

clever path
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i just dont have it in me

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not yet maybe

restive peak
clever path
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theres still time

unreal onyx
eternal sundial
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if you progress

restive peak
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Mythic is fun if you're a competitive person; if you're an anxious person, or easily flustered, I could see it not being enjoyable

clever path
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Can you pug mythic?

restive peak
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The 1st few for sure

sinful spoke
cosmic lance
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First 3-4 are getting pugged already

sinful spoke
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lower ranked than u on smoldy

cosmic lance
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Its usually mythic raiders on alts tho

sinful spoke
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i guess im a better player

restive peak
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Man when I get leggo and reclear I'm goin back to the top 20 baybeeee

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Sittin like 61 cuz of no reclears 😦 yall reclearin w your leggos and shiet

wild mural
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im 1631 ur 1628

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get fuck

sinful spoke
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exactly

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im better!

wild mural
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real

unreal onyx
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im 849

burnt stone
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I have a question about Simc.

We conducted a simulation of patchwork, 1 target, and 5 minutes.

There are cases where records exceeding 5 minutes remain in the Sample Sequence and Sample Ability Log.

It also seems to include the number of casts of skills, accessories, items, etc. that were used in excess of 5 minutes. Why?

eternal sundial
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doesnt sim duration fluctuate naturally?

wild mural
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why is it when u win a piece of gear

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someoen then whispers u

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asking if u need it

eternal sundial
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cuz ur a greedy fuck

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trad me

unreal onyx
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true

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you don't need it as much as me

proud crown
wild mural
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I pressed need br

restive peak
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Is there a spreadsheet somewhere of what you can shadowmeld this season?

proud crown
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with copy pastas

oblique trail
wild mica
restive peak
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Can do the 3rd and 4th boss in Fall as well

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Wonder if you meld as Goliath casts soulthorn if it happened to be on you, if it would cxl or swap

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Similar to the reflect gamble on 3rd boss TOTT

wild mica
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i feel like it just goes out on someone either way

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bring 4 nelfs and see if he hits tank

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easy test

cosmic lance
restive peak
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I figured yeah

cosmic lance
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Stuff like pursuit works because the mechanic goes off

wild mica
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goliath doesnt ever target anyone does he?

cosmic lance
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You could just RNG guess it

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But yeah he doesnt show who is being hit

wild mica
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technically that would be good to not get it on you since warriors are pretty good at blowing them up

clever path
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@flat river you were cookin somethin

wild mural
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already better than warrior

restive peak
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Alright I'm tryin 28 EB, time to fail

sand crest
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yo guys, Ive noticed a couple of top fury players playing dancing blades in high keys instead of titanic rage, is that the norm?

wild mural
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yes

oblique trail
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It's the norm in basically all keys

wild mica
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blizzard is just trolling with the plants doing affixes in EB

restive peak
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DB is amazing

past pivot
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Why would you meld for wracking pain when you can reflect it?

cosmic lance
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Get 2 in a row

oblique trail
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Apart from low keys where Titanic would actually just be better (by low keys I mean key levels where packs die before CDs are over)

wild mica
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cant get em both

sand crest
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alright thanks guys, I was playing tr without giving it a second thought, Ill try out db now

gilded pawn
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so yeah

flat river
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Someone @ me

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Who was it

eternal sundial
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click inbox

flat river
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I was

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Should i continue

sharp tartan
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When in my opener sequence do i use the leggo active on single target when running spear of bastion?

clever path
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ES

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YES

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COOK

fringe flame
quiet geyser
oblique trail
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Below 23s?

sand crest
oblique trail
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Not sure about that one

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=)

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Not like it matters what you run in 20s

wild mica
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TR is fine until you're doing 28+ tbh

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its not going to make or break your dps

oblique trail
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It's a noticeable ST/Prio difference

clever path
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fury sucks in aoe anyway

wild mica
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yeah but its not going to be the reason you dont time

sand crest
wild mica
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is what im saying

clever path
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might as well take the talent that makes u do what you do good better

oblique trail
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No, but you might as well run it anyway?

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Why run worse talents

flat river
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Ok let me cook

oblique trail
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Or right before you use your CDs, on paper it makes no difference

sand crest
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also does someone have a chatgpt prompt I can use to trick enh shammys into specing windfury

quiet geyser
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Lmao

sand crest
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fury warr/outlaw rogue/prot warr and shammy wouldnt spec windfury in 25 eb

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sad times

flat river
clever path
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drop vc for bb

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and run spear + tr

flat river
dense elbow
# flat river

You are so close to perfection, a few more irriterations and you have reached the old meta build where you moved tenderise to OF

clever path
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gameplay

wild mica
# flat river

ive been running in some 25s and its honestly not even bad

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no deft experience feels kinda bad tho

dense elbow
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I still would take OS over DB, for the dam - but hey

wild mica
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OS without tenderize feels kinda weird

gilded pawn
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nah OS baseline is dogshit

dense elbow
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nah, big dam 20% reck chance, and 30 rage, big value

trim cape
gilded pawn
cosmic lance
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10-15 ilvl is a lot

gilded pawn
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with the reck chance

dense elbow
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473 is really low, you gain 20-30k when you ge to 480, dont worry about it

gilded pawn
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which is awful compared to how strong dancing blade is

gilded pawn
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not even 2.5, more like 2

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because theres RB modifiers

trim cape
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i've only played this character for like two weeks lmao

gilded pawn
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OS giving 3 stacks of slaughter is what makes it great

dense elbow
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Dont sweat it

gilded pawn
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because its 2 RB and 0.6 ramps

dense elbow
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OS giving 3 stacks was good for sure, but you cant fit OS and OF

trim cape
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my raid group is a bunch of extremely casual shitters (i say this with love), if i posted logs you'd be horrified

dense elbow
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but we did play OS and OF without tenderise

trim cape
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but i still want to do better

dense elbow
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You will do better, dont worry, best of luck o/

gilded pawn
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we never did play os and of weithout tender

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at least not seriously

wild mica
dense elbow
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Depends on the key, Ronin

trim cape
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i'd post a log for review but there's about eighteen in there with no responses so i will wait until someone actually is looking

gilded pawn
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DB and OS are both essentially ST talents

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and DB is just better

dense elbow
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If you say so, sadly, historicaly ppl still brought OS

gilded pawn
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link any serious log

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in any tier this expac

arctic portal
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you get maximum one of the lesser fyrakk fragments per id right? aka you can stop doing bosses as soon as it drops?

wild mica
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you can get a lot of lesser fragments

wild mural
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I've seen 3-4 in a single raid

gilded pawn
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people played OF OS at the beginning of 10.05 in like +10s

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to pad burst

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i know because i played it on an alt

warm crag
arctic portal
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but you only got one chance per boss? i dont have to farm the raid on all difficulties or?^^

warm crag
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its hc up and you do have to "farm"

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you can get an ember from mythic and hc

arctic portal
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do we know what numbers are behind the lesser and the bigger ones are?

warm crag
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no

oblique trail
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Spongie WHY have you not looted orange weapon yet like I haven't either?

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DO tell me

warm crag
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i have

oblique trail
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huh

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What teh FUCK

warm crag
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here it is

clever path
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Nice

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Bis

oblique trail
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You are now a prot/smf main

warm crag
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i will cinematically loot it on sunday (clueless ( @clever belfry ))

oblique trail
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no escape

unreal onyx
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killed fyrakk just now with mainraid

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our bdk got it

paper ivy
fading sky
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i mean i hate to say it

paper ivy
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Build”

fading sky
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but it shouldnt be available to healers and tanks

oblique trail
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Why?

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What if they're a DPS main but they have to kill Fyrakk because of a person missing

fading sky
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then they are facked

oblique trail
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Should they just not be allowed to loot it?

fading sky
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just like the rest of us not gettin it

quartz viper
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Make more suffer because you like to suffer?

fading sky
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dno man im just bitter

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also darko

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OFC ?

next canopy
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S2 winning yet?

fading sky
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and i dont like to suffer

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but i suffer

paper ivy
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Ravager?

wild mica
unreal onyx
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I have it

restive peak
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Surely I get leggo this coming tues friends

unreal onyx
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101%

next canopy
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We have too much meat to get it early

fading sky
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i mean linccstyle i farm HC and normal end up gettin 1 small ember

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my m8 gets 3

fading sky
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Ill get it next wednesday

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6 days from now

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on either dk or warrior

weak moon
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how much better is Allied Wristguard of Companionship vs 2 shadow for m+ 20 and up ??

restive peak
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I'm gonna be so sad if I kill mythic fyrakk without it, feelsbadman

paper ivy
unreal onyx
restive peak
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Too close to kill for that 😛

clever path
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guys

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mission complete

snow smelt
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recently started fury, 480ilvl range and lacking in the weapon/trink area and sim damage seems average - notice some website promote vers/mast but a lot of top warriors having high haste/mast - vers still up there etc.. is there any clear guidance how to set up for secondaries?

unreal onyx
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whatever sim says

trim cape
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wowhead should have stat prio on it

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or just sim it

unreal onyx
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but I doubt haste is particularly high on most

toxic plank
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What are your average dps on end of m+? Just asking if my stats are bad or fury jsmt that strong lego droped so i think if worth the craft or wait for my main retri to drop one

unreal onyx
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insanely subjective question

wild mica
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that greatly depends on the key and comp

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and key level

modest condor
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well it's definitely not your stats, it never is

wild mica
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and if its your first time or 20th time

modest condor
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it's always either ilvl, bad play or undertuned spec

unreal onyx
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secondaries play a marginal role in overall performance

toxic plank
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Heres mine secondary

gilded pawn
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your stats dont matter

unreal onyx
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that is a lot of haste

gilded pawn
snow smelt
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eg.. haven't looked at all in top 10 but they're all over 35%haste

modest condor
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i like how we just told you it's not stats and you're like "let me link my stats"

gilded pawn
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i dont trust it

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@modest condor is 12k strength enough

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or is there a breakpoint at 13k i need to reach

snow smelt
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wowhead can be misleading, and refers to 25% being as fair as you wanna go

dense elbow
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No, Ronin, you are confused

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13k armor

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not str

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Ah ye, if you look up armory stats, the % are off, as values there are not shown correctly

gilded pawn
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oh my bad

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yeah 13k armor is the breakpoint

dense elbow
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If we had an armor breakpoint, we had to use shields early in the season... would be something

stuck bison
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is he og ronin that makes best pastas in skyhold ?

fringe flame
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I want glad spec 😦

gilded pawn
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no

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im a fake

warm crag
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@modest condor i was told i really need 43% mastery but i had to go down to some 430 ilvl pieces to support that did i do good ???

dense elbow
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Best pasta is in Prot

gilded pawn
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i can never replace the goat

stuck bison
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yeah i miss ronin

gilded pawn
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unfortunately he cant keep his mouth shut sometimes

stuck bison
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cant see roid these days ? is he okay

red yew
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43% mastery breakpoint is huge tbh

gilded pawn
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roid ODed on blended chicken breast

dense elbow
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Lads, any advice, we are 30min in our techsupport session before Smolderon. Any games ya recommend?

clever path
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Who is roid

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Heard some things about him here

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Give me some lore

dense elbow
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Guy liked blended chicken, and protein, dont worry about it

gilded pawn
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he was famous for his nelth 16 gameplay

dense elbow
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Also, very pro booster, but he never boosted - he only bodied

clever path
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16?

warm crag
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ronin very powerful being

stuck bison
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he was famous for lots of things

warm crag
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any mango farmers

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@oblique trail

stuck bison
dense elbow
# red yew Elden Ring

more like a flashgame, or something of the like, so I can half way keep focus if we get goin'

warm crag
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paperclip game

oblique trail
warm crag
dense elbow
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Aight, sounds like the right kind of game, in name alone

clever path
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So

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Roid was like

wild mural
clever path
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An average pug !

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?

warm crag
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roid was maybe the best warrior in this discord

wild mural
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best warrior full stop

clever path
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I don’t understand its sarcasm or not

dense elbow
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It is both

wild mural
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im completely serious

warm crag
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unseasoned chicken

wild mural
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he was so dedicated to gains

warm crag
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blended his rice and unseasoned chicken

clever path
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I think that title belongs to someone else here but I’m not telling who is the best warrior (it’s not me keks)

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But I dunno guys

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Proofs or

wild mural
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it's me

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im the best warrior

dense elbow
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Go to logs, ye, then check who is #1

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that is roid

clever path
dense elbow
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Sorry, #2

wild mural
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the buff we all needed

red yew
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How is he so fkin good

solemn oyster
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Thank god

stuck bison
red yew
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RoidGOD

olive wraith
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Nelth 16 never forget

summer quail
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do we all call EM CM now?

red yew
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Rest in peace PV goated acronym

solemn oyster
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that you never used

wild mural
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Nelth 16 xan

red yew
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Now it's PC 💀

summer quail
red yew
sage nimbus
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What happened to roid?

summer quail
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we're poopspear users now

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he jsut left discord, nothing special

red yew
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But even so, better to have a good acronym than not, you feel me?

stuck bison
summer quail
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yo uheldigt, i just finished sekiro for the first time. took me 4 years ahahaha

wary fjord
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Poop spear time

red yew
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💀

sage nimbus
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Sounds legit

red yew
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Better late than never my man

olive wraith
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Didn’t roid get banned

clever path
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excellent warrior

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totally the best of yes

summer quail
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i didn't like it in 2019, now i had alot of fun. also isshin the sword saint owned. took me like 50 tries

red yew
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Sounds about right...

wild mural
summer quail
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only 2 attempts for p4 tho

wild mural
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so good he broke the api

clever path
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should i be hitting WW on cd even in ST?

summer quail
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no

winter shoal
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Didn't Roidstack get banned from here

wild mural
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if you've got nothing else to press

summer quail
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idk if he got banned or if he left willingly

wild mural
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that includes slam

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def banned

upbeat swan
gilded pawn
clever path
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well now im getting mixed answers

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lets see

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im rescanning

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but i dunno

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feels like you guys are trolling

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and he was actually shit

winter shoal
upbeat swan
clever path
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eh

lunar cape
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im just going to throw this out but @mossy fox is the peoples warrior

winter shoal
clever path
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its called a ping

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i think

dense elbow
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Critcake is the people's warrior, because he supporting OF... but then he voted s2... that is against OF...

olive wraith
dense elbow
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I am torn

violet condor
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theres nothing...? no balance changes

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how could this be...

upbeat swan
dense elbow
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it did

summer quail
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s2 set is the best for m+ so makes sense he wants it

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s3 feels really nice in raid tho

warm crag
violet condor
raw knoll
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I mean technically you can have S2 tier with OF. It's just a tuning issue with OF vs Onslaught. S3 only feels good in raid though unless they buff up damage outside of CDs. S2 can feel fine in both.

dense elbow
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If OF gets 51% baseline buff, I would have voted s2

violet condor
bright axle
summer quail
wary fjord
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Nah, asking too little, make it a 500% buff

winter shoal
wary fjord
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Always ask for more

dense elbow
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Ye, OF needs some love, but that is next expansion's problem at this point

wary fjord
dense elbow
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S3 will keep OF alive

unreal onyx
buoyant salmon
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god i love all bosses

summer quail
buoyant salmon
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bless this game

errant vessel
violet condor
warm crag
modest condor
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all bosses is my favourite boss

winter shoal
# violet condor

I said it before and I'll say it again, in order to unironically link this chart you should be required to post your 95 parses on mythic all bosses

summer quail
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like we are literally playing around adds spawning, ofc we're low boss dam

warm crag
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i will spread this for aug buff misinformation

clever path
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why is it everytime i see OF i think of the site and not the ability lmao

modest condor
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because you have a dirty mind

clever path
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i feel like the logo for the sight should be an emote for odyns fury xD

warm crag
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why did you cut off the kill count

clever path
wild mural
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he was insane

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no augury for DH either

winter shoal
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Wowhead posting that chart makes me want to commit soy sauce on the side

violet condor
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mostly 99s

warm crag
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damn

wild mural
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Im the best to ever do it

warm crag
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a rank 13 is a 95 parse on larodar

buoyant salmon
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do i win

warm crag
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how dead is prot

violet condor
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yea lol thats what i said

unreal onyx
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lost

wild mural
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arm

merry arch
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I am wet

winter shoal
violet condor
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with ravager on anger management OF has a longer cd, does less dmg, and generates less rage it needs a huge buff

buoyant salmon
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i havent logged into warrior in weeks

violet condor
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instead they buffed it with a tier set

winter shoal
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What world rank were you guys on gnarlroot Choco

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Like 3?

buoyant salmon
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idk like 30 i think

warm crag
#

why not world first

#

?

buoyant salmon
#

im fat

storm rune
frozen tartan
#

And another Greater Ember, while an alt from a guildie with his 2nd HC Kill got the Legendary.

#

"We learned our lessons from the Evoker Legendary Aquisition."

#

My ass.

warm crag
#

me when im malding over my friends getting loot

violet condor
#

i thought for sure when they said that it woudlnt be somne rng bullshit drop from the final boss

#

fucking liars

unreal onyx
#

me when I don't understand rng

violet condor
#

also on the final boss 4 main raiders get on there alts to see if it drops

#

3/4 of them got it

unreal onyx
#

good rng

violet condor
#

more and more every week

#

sucks

wary fjord
violet condor
#

whats BLP

wary fjord
#

Give people a reason to login every week

warm crag
#

source on it being placebo

wary fjord
#

Bad luck protectiin

dense elbow
#

Source: I dont have legendary yet

wary fjord
#

Ye

dense elbow
#

aka: it must be unfair

wild mural
wary fjord
violet condor
#

legendarys shouldnt be an rng drop man..its so lazy and uncreative

buoyant salmon
#

if the only reason you log in every week is to get the legendary

storm rune
#

Legendaries are a thing of the past

buoyant salmon
#

why the fuck are you even subbed to the game

gusty compass
#

Are people playing with Elemental Lariat? Worth crafting?

wild mural
#

Just loot it

wary fjord
#

Oh not me, there are just people who will do that

violet condor
#

when did anyone say that

#

trying to push IO on a terrible class like warrior like doing 10%ish less dmg cause im unlucky is terribler

unreal onyx
#

if I don't get the best rng in the game the system is shit

fading sky
#

i mean any other class that doesnt have leggo prob have a better time just now

wary fjord
#

I just want anyone in my raid to get it

#

5 people who can loot it, none have

violet condor
#

my whole raid has it except me and one guy

errant vessel
#

how much dmg are you guys signets dealing on mythic smold?

violet condor
#

alts of people have it before the 2 mains

errant vessel
#

% wise

#

because I'm struggling to see how it's better than might

#

on specifically this fight

raw knoll
# buoyant salmon if the only reason you log in every week is to get the legendary

The only reason I log in is to do keys with friends. Losing a good chunk of my damage due to RNG is a pretty unfun experience not gonna lie. Losing that much damage isn't the same as just not getting a trinket for several weeks or to get several bad vaults especially when you aren't considered a great pick for keys to begin with.

unreal onyx
#

"good chunk" is a bit of a overstatement

raw knoll
#

6-10% isn't. It's a lot more in keys than it is raid.

buoyant salmon
#

yeah idk i heard like yesterday the legendary sucked and needed to be buffed

summer quail
buoyant salmon
summer quail
#

oof

storm rune
wary fjord
#

It needs it's cast to be hasted to make it feel better to use

#

At least from what I have heard, I don't have it sadge

violet condor
wary fjord
#

Ye

#

But that's prob not gonna happen

violet condor
#

well considering theres actually nothing in the .5 patch notes

unreal onyx
#

I feel like people highly overestimate the value of the leggo to be able to do any content over 20s

violet condor
#

probably not

coarse nest
#

Just have not be a cast at all or if they insist it be a cast then 1000% increase in output

wary fjord
#

The hasted cast might happen, depending how blizz feels

raw knoll
violet condor
coarse nest
#

Channel as melee feels horrible

violet condor
#

thats where the 10% is coming from

warm crag
raw knoll
#

Even at Critcake's level I can imagine there are instances where if both him and Qrva had the lego the key would have possibly been timed. Personally in my 26 EB yesterday the lego would have more than made up for other people's mistakes to time the key but I can't control other players only myself.

#

To pretend like it doesn't make a difference is denial lol.

warm crag
#

but it legit doesnt matter to them tho

unreal onyx
#

I never said it doesn't make a difference

#

I said it's overestimated on how much of an impact it has

warm crag
#

they dont have access to reclear mythic ilvl items yet which is probably more of a problem than that

molten relic
#

It’s like 3mil on a boss fight in 25 keys

raw knoll
molten relic
#

On tyrannweeks

meager void
#

meh.

molten relic
raw knoll
#

It's free damage. Damage helps time keys. There isn't an upgrade you can get out of your vault to compare the damage gain you get from the lego in keys.

molten relic
#

But they aren’t turbo dooming bc they don’t have it

meager void
#

meh. x2

wild mural
#

I just feel sorry for my buddy crit that I got it before him

#

He’s so much better than me and I feel bad sadge

plucky ice
#

this system is so bad, probably wont get it before s4 tbh

#

exp over lmao kek

edgy oasis
#

why are people taking 2 pooints in cruelty instead of picking uproar for 1st and 2nd boss? like surely the extra roar on adds is better!

raw knoll
#

Are you complaining that the lego doesn't matter or are you complaining that people are turbo dooming? And for the record he spent an entire stream complaining about it and Fury damage (especially without it) to a point to where he apologized in the stream title. Because the lego matters and he's entitled to complain about it.

meager void
buoyant salmon
#

and idek if uproar would even help

meager void
#

the only fight where it kinda works is tindy

#

tswifty

raw knoll
#

In this specific case Critcake because homie said they aren't turbo dooming just because they don't have it. Pretty sure every warrior doing keys without lego is having a bit of less fun this season lol.

violet condor
#

true

plucky ice
#

obviously 5-10% less dmg matters lol

molten relic
#

Ofc

#

But there’s nothing you can do about it

meager void
#

not having the legendary is less fun than having it

molten relic
#

You kill boss and you either get it or you don’t

meager void
#

cant argue with that

cosmic lance
#

To be fair, it would be very tilting to be progging M fyrakk and still not have it while LFR andys have highrolled it

molten relic
#

Fury damage even with leggo is mid pack

buoyant salmon
#

people arent having much fun with warrior because it sucks

cosmic lance
#

Knowing that you havent missed a lockout of heroic etc

clever path
#

A bit higher of the mid pack tho

meager void
#

i mean

clever path
#

And kinda bit more fun

raw knoll
buoyant salmon
#

the legendary being obtained or not wont be more or less fun

clever path
#

Innit

buoyant salmon
#

you will still suck

meager void
#

its not that furry sucks, its that the meta feels unfair

wild mica
#

people arent having fun because reckless abandon is ass, not because the damage isnt top 3

meager void
#

going from warr to dh is like going from a nokia to an iphone

clever path
#

let me explain

young swan
buoyant salmon
#

god dh is so fun

wanton mirage
meager void
#

that too looool

#

ask @humble plover

cosmic lance
#

There is a very large subset of people that play at a high level that primarily care about doing damage

#

DOing damage makes the game fun

wild mica
#

dh would be fun if vengeful retreat wasnt a thing. i hate that ability so much

past pivot
#

Thought about taking intervene and macroing leggo to it. Target Augvoker and click it. Won’t help you live but it’ll pull mobs to them. Could be a funny troll move.

young swan
#

at all levels

#

everyone likes being broken

cosmic lance
#

Yeah but a lot of the people at a high level just fotm reroll because of it

clever path
#

You know whats not fun?

Not having a solid gear upgrade, because you do NOT mythic raid and you have gotten all the upgrade / bis items you could from the guide or otherwise is not fun.

You just sit there and wait week to week to have something in the vault (which majority of the cases is total shit and you get socket token lol) , more like suck it token.

And you just sit and cope with "mkay, next week for sure.."

#

that is not fucking fun

buoyant salmon
naive summit
clever path
#

Fun is getting atleast SOME upgrade, something

buoyant salmon
#

they kinda just die compared to a decent amount of other classes

#

they are just average

young swan
#

stop being so entitled

plucky ice
#

only upgrades left are BLP tokens lmao

naive summit
#

honestly guys dh needs a buff warrior is doing more dmg

meager void
#

bonkers that the hardest content drops the best rewards

clever path
cosmic lance
#

The only "bis" item that you'll be short on is a mythic augury which is not that big of a deal

buoyant salmon
#

why do people act like getting a socket is bad

past pivot
#

Stopped reading at “bis items from the guide”.

naive summit
#

so it makes sense bliz slipped a 20% buff to hunt for them

buoyant salmon
naive summit
#

and elysian decree

buoyant salmon
#

if you only do one you are missing out of half of the content in the game

wild mica
#

the true endgame is transmog

#

wait this isnt ff14 nvm

young swan
past pivot
#

Just need hall of fame to finally open and start pugging first 3-4 mythic bosses for a few more upgrades.

naive summit
buoyant salmon
#

noone matches warrior

meager void
#

if you just do m+ over 20s, you can easily pug HC for a chance at mythic augury. After that, the only item you might miss is leggo.

buoyant salmon
#

especially fury

clever path
#

lol

buoyant salmon
#

fury is CLEARLY the tankiest spec in the game

naive summit
#

yea i feel that

#

bro

#

i was doing 27 rise

wild mica
#

fury cant die if we actually press bloodthirst

buoyant salmon
#

defensive stance alone clears some classes

wary fjord
#

Fury is gigatanky ye

naive summit
#

the dragon before the running puzzle, everyone died but me and the tank

cosmic lance
#

like i'm pugging 24-26s and i've done zero mythic raid, m+ is mostly just about time spent trying to grind io

young swan
buoyant salmon
naive summit
#

and im just chilling thru the aoe with spell reflect and dstance

clever path
#

yea if you pug for example

wanton mirage
#

Fury is also 30% versa class apparanty

naive summit
#

enrage regen to heal up on the next one

wanton obsidian
#

sustain doesnt help with 1 shots

clever path
#

fury is in a garbage bin tier

violet condor
#

fury really tanky imagine if we had utility/lust/cheatdeath/dmg/anythin

#

we'd be meta

buoyant salmon
buoyant salmon
wild mica
buoyant salmon
#

AMEN BROTHER

wanton mirage
#

Which spec use more versa than us right now?

naive summit
#

if we had 8 target cleave we would be giga meta

clever path
#

average pug will definately look at you and be like "Mkay yeah lets take fury guy, he is totally tanky and thats very helpful to the group"

wanton mirage
#

Ret or Rouges?

naive summit
#

or util

wild mural
naive summit
#

right now tho i think war is solid A tier

meager void
#

you can survive mythic smolderon fire ring with enraged regen, its gud

naive summit
#

like sure bm blasts, but they fuckn die

#

we dont die

buoyant salmon
naive summit
#

that is valuable

violet condor
#

need utility but after those embarassing war within talents that were shown off

#

hope is low

modest condor
#

where is your cheat death now losers

clever path
cosmic lance
#

BM has like 4 defensives if they aren't running a lust pet now dont they

buoyant salmon
naive summit
#

every other class is going to have to run night elf

cosmic lance
#

They're not as paper as they have been previously

true sapphire
naive summit
#

us fury warriors just dstance spell reflect

#

gg ez

buoyant salmon
#

yes bm is nowlike average tanky

#

its not nearly as squishy as it once was

clever path
#

next week for sure

#

cope

warm crag
buoyant salmon
#

good job

warm crag
#

t

#

y

#

i tried hard

naive summit
#

let me do the math on fury war tankyness compared to other classes when we dstance spell reflect

clever path
#

i ll devour you whole

modest condor
warm crag
#

tinder waiting for a spark

cosmic lance
#

Like yeah fury is tanky, cool

#

But other classes also have ways to live the mechanics

wary fjord
#

They should give us that ability where we would give spell reflect to our nearest ally, would be cool utility

cosmic lance
#

mage had like 8 different ways to not die to shit

naive summit
#

how much more stamina does having a 2nd weapon give us?

meager void
#

we up at an average 44.96%* blp for next week.

  • +- 50% margin of error
covert blaze
clever path
#

insta kill teammates

wary fjord
#

Lol

wild mural
raw knoll
# buoyant salmon the average pug is a fucking moron so this point doesnt really matter

Unfortunately in terms of pugging keys he ain't wrong it kind of does. Pugs live off the meta and if you ain't it you're playing queue simulator. I don't even bother to do keys without friends on. Pugging IO on my resto shaman is a waste of time even solely due to perception so I just snagged 3K on him quick because 3 looks better than 2 and now he's just on standby to do shit with friends.

plucky ice
#

from 1% to 1.5%

wild mural
#

so thereofre the boss has a 5% chance of looting it off you

wanton mirage
meager void
buoyant salmon
violet condor
wild mural
#

ofc

#

how could I be so blind

buoyant salmon
#

i applied to 1500 keys last season on warrior and got invited to like 1% of them

junior gale
#

Just wanna remind yall of the sick new tuning coming next week

wary fjord
#

Yeah, is strong, but what else do we have other than rally for the group

past pivot
wild mural
#

I got a 0 parse in maths

wanton mirage
modest condor
violet condor
#

tank/utility

buoyant salmon
#

a lot of classes just run out of shit

young swan
pliant lantern
#

Getting better at aiming last tick of axe on Tindral. Hitting some nice 1.2 mil crits

modest condor
#

like if something hits for 1mil damage every 30 seconds, sure plenty of specs can deal with every single one of them, but fury doesnt even have to deal with them because it doesn't 1shot us yet

cosmic lance
young swan
#

also i realize the answer is "more externals can be focused on other people"

buoyant salmon
raw knoll
#

Bonus points if you're running Second Wind this week watching everyone else bleed out to bursting while you stay topped off.

young swan
#

but you see the point im getting at

buoyant salmon
#

yeah youre right tho

wanton mirage
#

Yeah

violet condor
clever path
raw knoll
wary fjord
#

Second wind is so finicky

#

I wish it just gave you a list of what turns it off

raw knoll
#

Only doesn't work if you get hit by a mob ability prior to bursting going out, but it's a good bit of healing. Would do more if we didn't have so many other sources of healing pairing with it.

wanton mirage
#

I always write my LFG note, "I make your healer life easier. Just babysit other dpses"
Yet no one take me.

errant vessel
buoyant salmon
#

i could use some sockets

#

xd

wary fjord
modest condor
#

just get some bad vaults

warm crag
#

i saw a warrior with mydas once

#

@clever belfry

buoyant salmon
#

i dont even have enough crests to upgrade my gear

modest condor
#

my gearing this season has been cursed

warm crag
#

was also using t2 sharpening stones

cosmic lance
#

Honestly having old rally back and safeguard intervene would be amazing for keys

modest condor
#

i've looted 1 or 2 items from raid, and every single other 489 item has been from vault

#

but also every single vault has had items that i need, because i never get anything from raid

#

so no sockets yet

true sapphire
#

What are we dropping to pick up Second Wind?

buoyant salmon
#

fuck interevene

#

i dont want an external

wanton mirage
sinful spoke
#

God wont bless me with trinkets

clever belfry
warm crag
#

he was so fucking powerful

#

one day i will reach his power

modest condor
#

also still no myth track weapons

wild mural
warm crag
modest condor
#

spending 10k+ on a 3 ilvl upgrade critcake

warm crag
#

commit

#

you gotta craft it

naive summit
#

ok. doing the math
2 weapons gives us 10% more stamina
enrage gives us 10% DR
versatility gives me 13.5% dr (27% vers)
spell reflect gives 25% dr
dstance gives 15% dr

1.10 x 1.10 x 1.135 x 1.25 x 1.15= 97% more effective hp. I have 960k hp so in order for fury war to get one shot u would need to take 1,891,200 dmg in a single hit. if its over two hits then u can victory rush on top and then it becomes 2,458,560
add in ER to that and its 2,458,560 and 3,196,128 if u can VR in between, and ur basically immortal if its sustained dmg since bloodthirst increases ur effective hp by 24% every other global(assuming not already max hp)

violet condor
modest condor
#

i guess i could optimize my secondaries some by crafting a weapon too

raw knoll
#

That's like $0.50

modest condor
true sapphire
#

Maybe I'll get lego and M Gorehowl next week if I craft a weapon this week

violet condor
buoyant salmon
#

dn

modest condor
young swan
#

tindral beams prob

#

oh my

wary fjord
#

Lol

violet condor
naive summit
#

gawd dayum

cosmic lance
#

Thats a lot of unkilled adds

wild mural
#

oh my

young swan
#

i lived 2 ticks of a beam once

modest condor
#

all of them keks

young swan
#

it was silly

cosmic lance
#

Pad harder

naive summit
#

that must have been er, sr,dstance rally? + dome

modest condor
#

also it was only a 933k hit, could have lived another couple hundred k

north edge
#

I got chunked by the Xavious 50% ability yesterday in a 26

#

went from 100-15%

cosmic lance
#

For anyone not acquainted

north edge
#

my guildies asked me - wtf? you didnt press externals?

#

I said - oh is this meant to hit hard

wild mural
young swan
#

and everybody clapped 😎

modest condor
#

i would

wary fjord
#

Yeah, I feel bad sometimes seeing how much damage others are taking around me

wild mural
#

I dont

#

fuckin losers

modest condor
#

seeing people die to avoidable damage while i can just take them

wild mural
#

should have picked warrior

wary fjord
#

You right

modest condor
#

the bolts coming out from the leap on the first boss in fall

wary fjord
modest condor
#

i do try to dodge them ofcourse but im bad so i often get hit

#

but i dont die

wanton mirage
#

Everytime, there is a stomp in DHT tree boss, all other DPS are panicking.

#

While fury, just IV back to full

north edge
#

that stomp does fuck in tyranical

cosmic lance
#

What key level was that on Sil? 24ish?

north edge
#

hunter i played with was using the healer leaf trinket

#

last week

modest condor
wary fjord
#

Maybe we are broken

cosmic lance
#

Calculator says i could survive up to a 28 tyran lol

#

with dome up

#

and all our CDs

modest condor
#

prot paladin bubble, evoker cheat death, rogue cloak and priest spellward

#

and i just live myself

coarse nest
#

Imagine not being a warrior

#

Yikes

modest condor
#

didnt even need sac or pain supp

wary fjord
#

We found it, how we are broken

modest condor
#

damn imagine with sac and pain supp

wary fjord
modest condor
#

can live +30 tyran with full stacks at that point

coarse nest
#

30% vers gaming

cosmic lance
wary fjord
cosmic lance
#

With those buffs specifically

wary fjord
#

Lol wtf

modest condor
#

no shot you live 35 with max stacks

cosmic lance
#

no

#

max stacks

wary fjord
cosmic lance
#

Full CDs, dome sac and pain supp

wary fjord
#

Actually insane

cosmic lance
#

with my gear

modest condor
#

oh wtf pain supp is 40% DR

cosmic lance
#

its 50k overkill on a 36 with that

wary fjord
#

Wait, no devo aura?

buoyant salmon
#

ORTEMIST IS SO HOT

wanton mirage
cosmic lance
#

true forgot the devo

coarse nest
#

“Damage mitigation 7.8M”

tepid isle
#

any1 could share a simple enrage tracker weakaura ? : D

coarse nest
wary fjord
#

And the premier buff ye

#

Priest*

modest condor
#

fort already is included in the stamina i think

wary fjord
#

Ah

cosmic lance
#

bumps up to +36 with devo and dort

#

fort*

wary fjord
#

Les go

modest condor
#

we were checking if our aug was gonna get 1shot in AD yesterday and he almost accidentally doubled up on fort in his calculations

cosmic lance
#

Wither way much higher than anyone is gonna go

modest condor
#

oh i have a rogue too

#

add atrophic poison

quiet geyser
cosmic lance
#

Can prot aura mastery?

modest condor
#

no

cosmic lance
#

lame

wary fjord
cosmic lance
#

If you had evoker you could zephyr and shit too actually

modest condor
#

oh

#

zephyr

wary fjord
#

Nano machines son

modest condor
#

works on that mechanic

mossy fox
cosmic lance
#

You live up to +39 if you stack all that

#

lmao

wary fjord
#

Insane

cosmic lance
#

Pretty sure that would over-ride cheat before that

storm rune
#

Critcake once slapped me in an elevator with a hand full of shaving cream and told me "no one will ever believe you"

wanton mirage
#

Alright bois, we are immortal. Need more dmg. Just need to cry more about this to blizz.

wary fjord
#

We traded damage for immortality

clever path
#

enh vs fury in m+

summer quail
clever path
#

who wins

#

pure dps

young swan
#

prob fury

wary fjord
#

The fury, cause they live

clever path
#

L0OL

#

shaman needs a tank spec

buoyant salmon
#

enh doesnt do much overall

#

but they do a fuck ton of prio dam

clever path
#

I have a question

#

why did blizzard kill dk dps specs?

#

was it intentional?

#

or what went wrong

modest condor
#

biz plays with enhance so if you wanna compare the 2 watch his streams sometimes

clever path
#

i member in bfa uhdk was bomb

cosmic lance
#

Pretty sure enhance is very competitive with fury if they're good

summer quail
#

idk, unholy was insane in s1 and s2 tho. so 1 season of them being bad isn't that surprisng

#

like top st in raid

past pivot
#

DK tank is their dps spec

unreal onyx
#

people who have killed tindral

#

how did you do it

#

I can't see P1 anymore

#

sick of it

past pivot
#

Turn plater off or use that WA

covert blaze
young swan
#

disassociate

unreal onyx
#

I physically cannot see that fight anymore or I go insane

covert blaze
#

@unreal onyx how many pulls and %?

buoyant salmon
#

n eed ur leggo cloak on

clever path
#

were they good?

#

did they win son?

summer quail
#

very very good in raid

#

same with season 1

modest condor
#

wasnt that a case of looking good in logs because of burst damage profile on farm kills?

young swan
clever path
#

l0l

young swan
summer quail
young swan
#

both of those are mythic 95%