fury

[ember apex]

bro i bet 0 ppl have a spreadsheet of their BLP

i was super giga minmax and i didnt keep a spreadsheet

[lean scarab]

I could understand s2 or s3 but s1? Nah, give me a bonus to play around

[near gust]

not sure, i dont raid so i only killed normal fyrakk each week since race ended

[olive wraith]

Some people got a weak aura

[ember apex]

oh boy thats gonna make some sausagebois angry

[ember apex]

thats super funny actually

[molten relic]

If it makes u feel better Carlo killed 200 bosses in first week and didn’t loot it

[tranquil merlin]

Which one ?

[ember apex]

🤣

[deft thicket]

At this point, after farming fyrak every every week is it worth to farm the whole raid or just tindral and fyrak formthe leggo?

[olive wraith]

Idk there’s a blp tracker

That’s totally pointless

[molten relic]

Tracking a number that is just a number

[olive wraith]

Technically heroic bosses drop lessers

[molten relic]

Is a based train of thought

[ember apex]

yeah u just do what u can basically, heroic fyrakk is the goal every week if u dont have it

[olive wraith]

So clear heroic

[ember apex]

i got it like 2 weeks ago but i was doing degenerate shit like full clear lfr then normal then heroic

[deft thicket]

Ok i got it.. im just starting feeling despair of not getting the axe XD

[glad coyote]

anybody use this macro?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpAU32jjHoE

[ember apex]

no

[neon nacelle]

Thats for nothing, heroic cap the lessers on lfr and nm

[clever path]

no

[ember apex]

its ridiculous

[ember apex]

thats what everyone said, but i got it before most people w/ my method

ppl just say oh RNG

so whatevs

[wild mural]

2nd one I've seen

[ember apex]

damn and nothing for u?

[glad coyote]

dang yall dont got lego yet?

[olive wraith]

There are no lessers from lfr/normal

[deft thicket]

At least i have augery and got my hero might of the ocean from vault

[wild mural]

indeed, augury ddn't drop

[ember apex]

yes there are

[devout sapphire]

pog

[olive wraith]

No?

[deft thicket]

Nah still waiting

[ember apex]

do LFR before u do any other raid u get lessers randomly

i was doing lfr for signet trinket week 4 or something

[olive wraith]

That’s not wai

[ember apex]

and i got a lesser from it

so i added into my rotation

i got very few from lfr

like sometimes 0 per week

but i did sometimes get some

[olive wraith]

I’d rather run a key over trudging through lfr

[ember apex]

yeah i was degen w/ it i dont blame u

its the equivalent of believing like a fortune teller

that doing lfr will give u addition BLP

but i believed it

[edgy widget]

We got our second of the tier last night! 😂

[wild mural]

we got 2 in the first 3 weeks

then haven't seen it since

[edgy widget]

Ok then I have no more sympathy for you

Get fucked kid

[wild mural]

yooooooo

toxic

[glad coyote]

saw 5 drop in 1 pug raid

[wild mural]

my guild assigned them to our DHs

[half rivet]

I've had RNGesus on my side for my warrior...

[glad coyote]

ret pally who died in first 5 seconds got one

[wild mural]

one of whom has now quit the game

again

[ember apex]

i did a 30 man heroic fyrakk every week and the only item that ever drops is augury for all loot

[glad coyote]

we get at least 2-3 polearms each week

[ember apex]

i still need that mog

[glad coyote]

and than the 1h aze

[ember apex]

its crazy that we cant need on a polearm

i group w/ a hunter who has it and make him roll surv so he can trade/rolll on it

but i never get it

tragedy

[molten relic]

Where y’all at in mythic now? 7/9?

[young swan]

type xantaga

[fleet cargo]

Guys hi

[young swan]

should come up

[fleet cargo]

İ returned to wow after 2 2.5 months break

İ recently got 4 piece

And made 161k dps on a +11 everbloom with 455 ilvl

İs it good or medium

[molten relic]

It’s 455 ilvl

So there isn’t really anything to compare too

[fleet cargo]

Ah makes sense

[molten relic]

If u timed the key then it’s fine

But pre 480 ur overall dps will not be easy to rate lol

[ember apex]

i like how ur only other video was mythic dathea kill. super low popularity pov but dathea was prob top 3 bosses in dragonflight

[gilded slate]

i've cleared normal every week, haven't seen 1 lesser.

[coarse nest]

You should do 300k overall in +11

[wild mural]

real

[gilded slate]

could just be bad luck, but i believe the blue post said lessers drop from hc and mythic

[ember apex]

u have to do normal mode BEFORE u do any other difficulty and its not guaranteed and LFR is even less guaranteed but they do drop

[stone geyser]

what did the squirrels do to you?

[coarse nest]

Boosting 11s!?

[ember apex]

i 100% had a lesser drop from LFR in week 3

[wild mural]

I needed 1 more dungeon for weekly

[ember apex]

i posted about it in my guild discord

[wild mural]

wouldn't you like to know

[gilded slate]

well they're rng, i've only gotten a couple from hc

[icy panther]

we really only need to run heroic every week for the leggo, right?

[molten relic]

Yes

Ignore Carlo

I looted mine the only week I didn’t do norm and lfr before heroic

[ember apex]

yeah ignore me i believe in like voodoo shit when it comes to leggo

[icy panther]

at this point i need voodoo shit to get my leggo LUL

[molten relic]

And Carlo over here telling mfs he looted blp from lfr bosses

Just clear heroic

And you either get it or you don’t

[ember apex]

i did and when i did i posted a screenshot to my guild discord about it

[violet trail]

50/50 chance

[wild mural]

i didnt do that

[mild kraken]

Yup still nothing. Just send me the link in dms

[wild mural]

I dont think I cleared heroic since week 2

[ember apex]

its not 50/50 or else half of the community who killed heroic fyrakk week 2 would have got it

[young swan]

weird

[molten relic]

I mean furakk

Don’t need to do full heroi

[wild mural]

real

[molten relic]

Just kill the fire dragon guy with axe

[coarse nest]

Actually it is 50/50

[molten relic]

And u either get it or you don’t

[coarse nest]

You either get it or you don’t

That’s 50/50

[molten relic]

^

[icy panther]

you either get it or you dont

[mild kraken]

Searched Xantaga fury warrior, all I see is critcake lol

[icy panther]

50/50

[wild mural]

I need to clear heroic tho

for vault slots

[ember apex]

it mathemetically isnt 50/50, because if there's 100 fury warriors
50 would have gotten in week 2
then 25 week 3
then 12-13 week 4
6-7 week 5
3 week 6

which means 96/100 warriors would have it by now

[rotund ginkgo]

do i replace my shadowflame wrist with this HMMMMMGE

then recraft my boots to be 486

[gilded slate]

i'd assume blp is applied to the next week anyway, otherwise folks would be doing degen shit

which i guess they're alrdy doing, so w/e

[icy panther]

unless we're all SUPER unlucky

[ember apex]

so ur wrong because if it was 50/50
96% of ppl who clear heroic fyrakk every week would have it

[nova garnet]

50/50 you either get it or you don't

[fossil hatch]

bro if im unable to press 2 buttons the right order i just might quit

[violet trail]

Either you get it or your dont. Stop mathing thats what the robot is for

[nova garnet]

50% chance for legendary

[coarse nest]

You could kill it 1000 times with 99% drop chance and not loot it

[violet trail]

Still a 50/50 if you loot it or not.

[ember apex]

yeah but that kind of unlikely probability doesnt scale

[gilded slate]

trust me, its 50/50, i posted about it in my guild discord

[molten relic]

Same

[nova garnet]

It's definitely 50%

[ember apex]

yeah but im talking about the chance to loot it

[molten relic]

I posted an ss in my guild discord when it happened

[ember apex]

not the binary option of looting it or not

[molten relic]

You either loot it or you don’t

[nova garnet]

50/50

[fossil hatch]

sure bro lost 25 times the 50/50

[violet trail]

Still 50/50 either you get or dont get. What is so hard to understand.

[molten relic]

That’s 1 of 2 options

Which is 50/50

[nova garnet]

Exactly

[violet trail]

How can you not understand this???

[ember apex]

yeah no one cares about the binary option of it being looted or not being looted.

ppl care about the % chance/likelihood that they are to loot it which isn't 50/50

[gilded slate]

makes sense

[molten relic]

He has a phd in dps

[gilded slate]

like a coin flip

[molten relic]

He is just trolling you all

[gilded slate]

heads or tails, you get the lego or you dont

[molten relic]

Yes but no one knows the %

[nova garnet]

True

[molten relic]

So it might as well be binary

[nova garnet]

50/50

[molten relic]

Because we don’t know and never will know the %

[ember apex]

ok that's different

[violet trail]

Its still straight up 50/50 either you loot or you dont loot.

[nova garnet]

It drops half the time

[ember apex]

thats fine then

it doesnt drop half the time

[molten relic]

No

[ember apex]

if it did 96% of ppl would have it

[coarse nest]

50% of the time you don’t loot it

50% of the time you do

Quick math

[molten relic]

But if it drops for you then it didn’t not drop

[coarse nest]

[molten relic]

And so it’s either drop or not drop

And the % doesn’t matter

Because it’s unknown

[nova garnet]

It does

Just not in your raid

[violet trail]

Yeah either you get it or not. Come on. Get with the program.

[nova garnet]

[molten relic]

I have the leggo

It drops in my raid

But only for me

[violet trail]

Well for you it doesnt drop anymore. so

[molten relic]

Correct

I got it on my alt pally too

On lfr kill

[molten spear]

stop explaining math to warriors man

[molten relic]

[nova garnet]

See, your raid doesn't drop it

[fiery harbor]

blehhhhhh

im still stuck with champion shoulders but im not gonna be dumb and take these hero ones, ill just have to keep grinding for some other hero shoulders and catalyst them. even tho i couldnt get a single hero shoulder of any kind since season start.

rezan sims the highest but it feels bad to take knowing ill just replace it for augery at some point

[molten relic]

Take the ember?

[gilded slate]

i dont like you

[nova garnet]

Does rezans sim better in AoE

[ember apex]

ive gotten ember of nullification 3x in a row

[rotund ginkgo]

do i snag this or socket for my avoidance 489 tierset helm (currently rocking shadowflame wrist)

[molten relic]

Ember fucks good in m+

[fiery harbor]

why?

it does?

[molten relic]

Because it’s a fat stat stick of a trinket

[nova garnet]

Vers statstick scales well in aoe

[coarse nest]

Doesn’t ember just silence enemy?

Why is it good

[molten relic]

It’s like 3% damage just from verse

[fiery harbor]

oh true vers with main stat i didnt notice

[sullen dove]

Strength and verse

[molten relic]

Plus primary stat

[nova garnet]

Str + Vers

[molten relic]

And silence

Bis for atal dazer

[fiery harbor]

hmm thats truee

[ember apex]

how does ember of nullification work on Tindral, like if u get hit by a swirly does that count or do u actually have to get melee'd by the boss

[molten relic]

U can’t silence the boss

But any spells or damage u take can proc it

[fiery harbor]

patchwerk simmed rezan higher. is ember better for m+? i do way more m+ than raiding

[molten relic]

Ember is good

[fiery harbor]

ok nice

[molten relic]

And in high keys u also get defensive value

[fiery harbor]

thanks

<3

[molten relic]

I think banezi still runs ember

Bc he don’t have augury

[ember apex]

whats better, playing super reckless in M+ w/ cheat death trinket or ember

[molten relic]

Ember plus Aug or ember plus might good m+ options

[fiery harbor]

i wish i could use it in pvp, it seems funny af for pvp but id gimp myself if i dont use the pvp trinket set bonus 20% str

[violet trail]

Cooked take. Just dont get hit by stuff.

Have you tried not being bad

[coarse nest]

Dodge skill

[ember apex]

if u hold ur dps for low tank threat in keys ur bad

[mild kraken]

I think higher keys with timer issue we are gonna see then drop aug

[molten relic]

If timer is an issue they not dropping a trinket that does 8-10% damage

[ember apex]

chance of run back is better than purposefully screwing over ur damage

[mild kraken]

I’m talking about augs

[molten relic]

Oh

I thought u meant augury

Cause we talkin trinkets

Yes

They will drop Aug when timer becomes issue

[mild kraken]

I thought y’all were talking augs lol

[coarse nest]

If damage is the issue for time

[molten relic]

Mfs will figure out how to survive

[coarse nest]

Dropping Aug is what I’ve heard

I don’t play at bleeding edge level so dunno

[molten relic]

Rogue mage mage blasting through keys

[sour frigate]

ember is good

[ember apex]

if u have ember of nullification and u get that 9sec stun cast on u in everbloom but the ICD is ready, does it break ur stun

[molten relic]

Faster than any of the Aug teams

By a lot

[molten relic]

Yes

Bc it silences the enemy

[mild kraken]

I dropped my aug from team

[ember apex]

how does it work on tindral

[molten relic]

It doesn’t

Because he’s a boss

[ember apex]

like does it require melee

oh

[molten relic]

And you can’t silence bosses

[ember apex]

what about shadow priests that literally have silence ability

[molten relic]

You can kick them with silence

But not blanket silence them

[ember apex]

got it

its a kick basically on a boss

thats why it works sometimes

but not all the time

[fiery harbor]

btw guys has anyone tried these in M+?

ive been enjoying them a lot. you dont even need to stun. your charge root procs it right away, plus its vers mastery

[unreal onyx]

that sounds like a mainly pvp embell

[fiery harbor]

i mean you get 10 seconds of a mini potion of ultimate power every 30 seconds just for charging

pretty good for trash mob packs

[molten relic]

Doesn’t work on most bosses

[fiery harbor]

no it doesnt but its still a vers mastery boots

[unreal onyx]

yea bosses can't be stunned

[molten relic]

So shadowflame or verse kinda just better

[fading bane]

Its barely more than BSL

which has pretty good uptime in m+

[fiery harbor]

it will be up for when you odyn fury and/or thunderous roar a trash pack

[molten relic]

Again it could be decent but

Doing nothing for bosses

Is problematic

[unreal onyx]

there's a reason no one really uses them in m+

[molten relic]

In m+ u want well rounded shjt in most cases

[unreal onyx]

they might be decent, but not the best still

[fiery harbor]

you can proc it on some bosses. 2 bosses in atal has adds you need to cc

[molten relic]

Shadowflame and vers bracers just better

But if u also PvP

They aren’t bad

[fiery harbor]

nodders

[glad coyote]

shadowflame/vers bracers and hot pocket on ring

for m+

[ember apex]

also on totem boss in AD u can snipe interrupts on the noxious smell cast or whatever

and interrupts proc it

also u can spawn a dino on rezan and stun it

brh first and last boss has adds u can stun

[robust widget]

@unreal onyx is today the day where i get my orange?

[unreal onyx]

yes

[robust widget]

good

[rotund ginkgo]

gee willy willikers what do i do

[ember apex]

go w/ vers for defensive value

[rotund ginkgo]

cant craft this week tho

[cosmic sparrow]

Does anyone have problems with charge pulling agro or is this me only? Whenever I have a DH tank even sometimes after waiting 10 seconds to engage I charge and instantly pull threat

[clever path]

you guys are still fighting over a tier set bonus?

[nova garnet]

No, you just vote season 1

[wild mural]

fotm

[proud vessel]

I guess we're gonna be Lariat gamers (this is m+ talents)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vuYBoC4hgUGgHahVZmPCy4

[wild mural]

all the time

[nova garnet]

Disabled gamers are still disabled even if on fotm

[wild mural]

real

[clever path]

Whats fotm

time to level another warrior

[nova garnet]

Deez nuts

[wild mural]

finally I have every portal

[clever path]

Flavor of the month?

[wild mural]

yes

the meta classes

[low folio]

man havoc makes me so jealous. even their augerys hit a lot harder

[wild mural]

why must I hurt myself

bro I might even get 2900 this season

crazy I KNOW

[nova garnet]

@wild mural simp for me

[wild mural]

you fucken bet I will

[nova garnet]

[dense elbow]

I didnt get legendary, so time to sleep till next week

[unreal onyx]

don't forget the 5 TW dungeons for augury

[dense elbow]

5 TW is for normal gear, no?

[unreal onyx]

yes

but nm augury is only 700DPS behind hc one

[dense elbow]

Already bought normal Aug

[unreal onyx]

[dense elbow]

[unreal onyx]

(I already have nm aug with leech too)

[wild mural]

[unreal onyx]

but I will still do it for tmog

[wild mural]

imagine having aug

I literally can't

[unreal onyx]

just loot it

idk what the issue is

[wild mural]

fuck u

[unreal onyx]

at least you're not as annoying as the people without lego, they don't even have to loot the boss to get it in their inv

and they still don't have it

[low folio]

that hurts

[unreal onyx]

im getting slandered for being a s3 stan

and if it takes a roundhouse kick to get the s2 stans

it is what it is

[dense elbow]

You still lose to S1

S1 is the underdog

[low folio]

i need the leggo to drop so i can catch up to the dh i play with

[unreal onyx]

surely that will do the trick

[summer quail]

hahah as if that will let you catch up

[low folio]

but he recently got augery and it literally does double my augery's dps

feels bad

[clever path]

forget the augry

need to get signet

[silent burrow]

bofum

[low folio]

im doing keys and pugging most keys. signet does nothing for me. i do have it though

[clever path]

what if deleting dh is the key to getting lege

just try it

secret attunement

[unreal onyx]

I wonder if I will finish S3 with 489 shoulders

hoped for them for 4 vaults now

(didn't get any)

[somber elk]

Wonder if I finish the Season with any 489 weapon or legy

[unreal onyx]

gnarl weap easy

[molten relic]

ive had shoul,ders every time

[unreal onyx]

i only miss shoulders to have max ilvl armor

and then might/hc augury for 489 trinkets

and signet but that's not that important

[weary summit]

worth to do normal kills for augury?

[molten relic]

ya I need glvoes helm and chest for mythic level tier

think I break 1mil hp with that

but only getting those from vault chances since I dont raid mythic

unless we decide to do Igira

[unreal onyx]

no

not without buffs

[summer quail]

don't think so, i'm not hitting 1m with myth gloves helm and chest

[unreal onyx]

im at 940k at 488.3 ilvl

with this gear

[gilded pawn]

940k with fort?

[summer quail]

has to be without

[slim coral]

i'm over 1mill with fort

[summer quail]

are you tauren?

[slim coral]

no

human

[wild mural]

mother fk

[gleaming crag]

I'm over 1m with fort at 486 but I am tauren lol

[wild mural]

[summer quail]

i'm 935k without fort, but one of my rings is 476. getting it to 486 this week tho

[wild mural]

whyyyyy is my hp so low

wtf

[coarse nest]

Yo!? You can use DK appearance??

[summer quail]

your shoulders

[coarse nest]

Mine doesn’t appear in the list

[wild mural]

fk

surely I get tier from smoldy tonight when we kill

[dire vigil]

Do you guys run seismic reverb instead of storm bolt?

[summer quail]

also very small, you have crafted boots instead of wrists. so that's a very tiny amount of hp as well

[wild mural]

oh ye

these are sexy af tho

[dire vigil]

I got those too, so I switched to lariat

Socketed myth wrists mmmm

[trim cape]

what's up gamers

should i be using execute as much as possible or just when i have nothing else more important to hit? i know wowhead has a priority guide and I should probably just follow that but it feels so weird to have execute glowing and mocking me on my hotbar.

posted my log in log review too (https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MBzfymZTwCJDYNKh#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=80) mostly just wanted to confirm i'm not using execute extremely wrong

it just sits there mocking me while i rampage for the fifteenth time in a row

[wild mural]

BB > ramp > exe

afaik

[summer quail]

in execute phase if ashen jugg talented bb>exe>ramp

[wild mural]

thats what I've been doing

oh

[summer quail]

tbf we only run ashen jugg on 3 fights so not applicable to your hc fyrakk log

[trim cape]

even if that rage caps me?

ah noted

[oblique trail]

Seismic is horsecock bad

Don't ever talent it

[summer quail]

yes, but like i said only with ashen jugg in execute phase. even if it overcaps

[trim cape]

how do you guys fry your eggs

[summer quail]

i only make scrambled eggs

[dire vigil]

Lmaooo, ok

[oblique trail]

Idk how else to describe it

It's 30% of 1 tick you get

And WW does not exactly hit for a lot per tick

[dire vigil]

I got intrigued by it because it’s + aoe cleave

Too many shitty talents! Buff warrior!!

[plucky ice]

true

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/sanditon-waiting-fields-season-patiently-waiting-gif-17737480

[dire vigil]

Talents should be about picking between two fun options, not “this is so shit I’ll never take this”

[still swift]

gang

[red yew]

Real Hoarahloux, Warrior?!

[still swift]

we got em

[wild mural]

fug u

[warm crag]

real augury

[still swift]

bought it for a solid 200k

[red yew]

Holy macaroni

[dire vigil]

Gang gang gang gang Augury so good

[warm crag]

free money

[still swift]

omega steal

[gleaming crag]

Must be nice to see it drop

I have seen tank trinket like every week on heroic no augury

[oblique trail]

I've seen it drop plenty of times but won it none of the times

[dire vigil]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/eldenring/images/b/bb/ER_Icon_Remembrance_of_Hoarah_Loux.png/revision/latest?cb=20220412231438

[wild mural]

[red yew]

[still swift]

feastin

[dire vigil]

I should bind “Now I fight as Hoarahloux, WARRIOR” to my recklessness ability

And “Legend Felled” to everytime I die

[still swift]

i had someone earlier who had "BAYBLADE BAYBLADE LET IT RIP" in their macro on fury

i still cant figure out what it was for

[oblique trail]

We don't have Ravager anymore

Or rather don't use it

And no BS either

They are simply silly

[dire vigil]

Whirlwind maybe?

[wild mural]

must be ww

[still swift]

it didnt come often enough to be ww

[oblique trail]

Naurh

You do NOT put that on WW

Even OF would be way too often

[still swift]

thats a chat spam report and a half

:kekl

[oblique trail]

That's psycho behaviour

[summer quail]

prob just bound to avatar in general

for arms bs

[wild mural]

someone in my guild has some bs macroed on their essence break I think

it's v annoying

[clever path]

guys

decision

very importnat

need your input

reroll mag har or keep being shrek?

[wary fjord]

It's never ogre

[summer quail]

reroll dwarf or nightelf

[clever path]

dwarf is stupidd

night elf is too meta

[wild mural]

u take taht back

[summer quail]

dwarf owns

[wild mural]

fuck u

[clever path]

rock n stone or you dont go home

[wary fjord]

Oh u rite

Rock and stone

[summer quail]

when i intentionally get as many bursting stacks as possible Dwarf racial saves me

[clever path]

inb4 faction change too expensive

[dire vigil]

Human supremacy on Goliath

[wary fjord]

Just change to dwarf every bursting week

[dire vigil]

gets it a 2nd time dies

[wary fjord]

[clever path]

dwarf shoes and helmets look ugly as hell

[wary fjord]

And change back after the week

True money meme

[clever path]

also why reroll faction if we going to have playable dwarves next exp

for horde

[dire vigil]

Dwarf pally feels more lore appropriate than Dwarf warrior

[clever path]

i'd reroll paladin and alliance if kul tiran could be pala

word

[trim cape]

i just play a panda because they're funny

[clever path]

but orc vs maghar

who wins

imagine a scenario in the bar

they start fighting

who wins

[unreal onyx]

boe

[gleaming crag]

I don't think stormbringer is going to be the fury bis next expansion anyhow so a dwarf wouldn't be that great. Slayer Talents sound like they should be more fury based.

[clever path]

oooooooor look at that stance ayooo

shinobi

[dire vigil]

Intrigued to see the slayer tree

[molten relic]

i have 965k in m+ talents

missing 489 helm gloves chest

cause extra 5% for endurance training

[wild mural]

I found a DH that can actually play

[clever path]

show us ur ui pls

fellow s2 enjoyer

[clever path]

you dont use wasd to move?

[gilded pawn]

where hekili

[fallen ginkgo]

on my 2nd warrior that i play arms with why not on my main char on myth

[gilded pawn]

just cope and say its champion

so its dogshit

youll get heroic on your main

[brave cairn]

Hey fury chat

Here, have this. Fuck you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/369996612098981900/1194714137587093584/GDYnFVGWcAAB3oL.png?ex=65b15b3f&is=659ee63f&hm=80eb9096af0be79805a2462f2d849fe65f02fb0f2c95d4f8c7c904a635346386&

[fallen ginkgo]

hello sting

[fallen ginkgo]

[clever path]

pink boy paladin

thanks to legendary topping meters

[fallen ginkgo]

yeah i guess i have to.. or just dropp axe this week

imagine i get on my arms one too

[vague sand]

[fallen ginkgo]

[clever path]

mr traitor posted it here because paladin discord is dead

[brave cairn]

I got it off of my guild's discord

I don't want to post it in the paladin one. I don't wanna bully the disabled kids

[wild mural]

No

[clever path]

you speak like a warrior

but your heart lies elsewhere

[modest condor]

holy paladin scaling with gear like how fury warrior did in 9.2

[wild mural]

up my bum

[gilded pawn]

good

[elder oasis]

does anyone know what the fury stat weights are off the top of their head? I fucked my stats while i was gearing and I cant figure out how to fix my pawn and simc strings to find the gear i need to fix it.

[clever path]

so i been trying to find out reading around on the web, seems this is the last option to find out. Why is the legendary not a BiS for fury? does it just not sim well at all? i guess i just assumed the ilvl was alone worth it

[clever path]

welcome to the real class discord

[gilded pawn]

just sim your character, or follow 40/40/10/10

[gilded pawn]

where do you read where its not bis

[dire vigil]

It doesn’t have it in wowhead

[clever path]

on icy veins either

[clever path]

its not on wowhead BiS

[dire vigil]

But yea, leggo is bis

[gilded pawn]

probably not updated

leggo is bis due to ilevel and passive alone

[fallen ginkgo]

does anyone know why my dropptimizer sim says i get more dps than my top gear sim?

[dire vigil]

Leggo mainhand, 489 Gorehowl offhand

[gilded pawn]

11/28

leggo didnt exist back then

[warm crag]

40401010

[clever path]

Where's the most up to date list of BiS for war? or is that accurate other than the weapon?

[gilded pawn]

sim

thatll give your your bis to the minute

[elder oasis]

can you explain to me the 40/40/10/10?

[warm crag]

bis lists are a thing of the past and no longer relevant for you in 2024

[clever path]

i mean this is the only class that doesnt keep a base BiS gear to aim for up to date lol. not that i do not Sim i just like having a base goal and going from there

[gilded pawn]

most classes tell you to sim also

most classes also find some stats exceptionally weak

warriors dont

[clever path]

i know but the keep a base list for gear to aim for and say sim depending on ilvl or other best stats

[silver mantle]

Guess the dungeon.

[clever path]

so our stats are fairly close in the sim world?

[gilded pawn]

you realize that those pieces are only BIS at mythic ilevel

those same pieces are not BIS at heroic ilevel

like whats bis at capped myth, could be not BIS at capped hero

and then all of that goes out the window when you start picking up myth pieces from vault

[dire vigil]

Ilvl upgrades > stat optimization. Once you’re getting close to 485+ you can start working on amount of mastery or vers or whatever

[calm ermine]

For example, wowhead puts shadowflame bracer as bis. My sim never told me to change from versa bracers...

[clever path]

ah ok that is actually interesting i guess i always read it assuming they were BiS in any situation

[gilded pawn]

nope

[dense elbow]

Throne

[gilded pawn]

archi gave an example a while back

[clever path]

so the crafted gear on that list is not the go to?

[silver mantle]

Yep.

[gilded pawn]

the crafted embellishments are fine

[dense elbow]

Cant trick me, I done a 100 ToTs

[gilded pawn]

and crafted gear are just placeholders anyways

just craft vers mastery and then fill rest of your gear through sims and what you have

[clever path]

ok thanks Ronin! learned a lot more than i realized i would coming here lol.

[silver mantle]

Throne is fast becoming my favorite dungeon of the season.

Actually not a snoozefest and you have to plan the pulls, especially on high keys fortified

[gilded pawn]

FYI the only reason BIS lists exist on those sites is because the website requires it

the authors dont particuarly like it

same with stat prios to an extent

[clever path]

well that is far more interesting to know

[elder oasis]

i'm comparing myself to other warriors of the same ilvl and notice that they put out over 20k more than me. thats why i was trying to alter my stats towards mastery/vers instead of haste/mastery

[gilded pawn]

if it sims the best then its the best

[past pivot]

Sim, don't chase stats

[gilded pawn]

and 20k is sounding more than stats

[clever path]

i have noticed the stat lists always say "sim stats but aim for ---- first"

[gilded pawn]

only spec that cannot sim is aug evoker

because a droptimizer sim is 3 hours long

so you blindly follow prio

[inland flame]

Yeah gear is wayyyyy too dynamic these days for bis lists to be a good idea. Should really just point out a list of more potent than usual stuff like good trinks.

[clever path]

jeeze

why is the warrior discord the nicest people in any of these class discords lol

[gilded pawn]

you cant drop BIS lists

people look up "fury warrior bis"

wowhead doesnt have it

but icyveins does

now icyveins got the click

instead of wowhead

now wowhead just lost money

[summer quail]

we have @subtle goblet

[inland flame]

Ya sure I get that part

[unreal onyx]

bis lists are only really bis if you have all the gear and not just parts

[subtle goblet]

[clever path]

i mean the name is epic so i get it

[wild mural]

cause we're all in our dooming together

[charred panther]

I want a gear vendor back that you can over time, if you’ve killed said boss, buy gear w some valor esq token.

Auger killin me

[wild mural]

Dinars every season

[unreal onyx]

s4 will propably be your friend then

[subtle goblet]

dinars mvp

[gilded pawn]

dinar every season

dont even need to raidlog

[unreal onyx]

dinar fuck good

[clever path]

so i guess that begs the question now, are the talent builds on wowhead accurate?

[gilded pawn]

yes

[charred panther]

I’m not familiar w this dinar but is already my friend

[inland flame]

Dinar vendor comes back. Its still SL gear. Gavel is better than Fyralath.

[charred panther]

Fryalath the Dream ENDer

[wild mural]

jaithys/gavel again

[clever path]

i saw a guildie get the lego on her pally and she didnt even use the lego drop buffs she was kinda mad because she didnt wanna do the quests lol

[flat sapphire]

No legendary this week next week for sure

[frozen lake]

I'm dooming on state of warrior and dooming on a boring fated season. Double doom

[wild mural]

well just tell her not to

[clever path]

she did it because we forced her to and all of us helped her lol so she wasnt as mad after that lol

[wild mural]

kekw

[ember apex]

they should just make it so u kill a few heroic bosses and u get some rando currency and upgrade ur leggo

aspect crests basically

and some FS

[clever path]

nah that takes the lego feel away

[charred panther]

Make it purple then, lol

[frozen lake]

Agree

[ember apex]

how does it take it away i already grinded it and did the quest

u want me to do it again?

shit cost 450k when i did it

get outta here 'leggo feel'

its already leggo feel they cant take away what i had to do. to get it

just let me upgrade the shit

for season 4**

[charred panther]

Carlo Carlo Carlo Carlo

[clever path]

thats what "legendary" should mean though...

[ember apex]

legendaries arent typically grinded out TWICE big dog

[clever path]

if that was the case than evokers should still have their lego

[ember apex]

they should be able to upgrade in s4

to be viable in s4 content

they already had to grind w/ less BLP than us and do their quests and shit

[frozen lake]

The problem is random drop is exciting but frustrating. Procedural drop is boring but reliable. I'd rather have an exciting game than a boring grind

No upgrades, we gotta get it to drop again

[ember apex]

LMFAO

no shot

dude

amirdrassil is gonna be the raid 1/3 of the time

so now we have 1/3 of the weeks to grind it for a random bonus season

i dun think so mister sausage

[charred panther]

Mmos = boring grind. RNG is the killer of mmo

[frozen lake]

Then it will be even more exciting when you get it

[ember apex]

i already got it

thats the thing that u dont get

[frozen lake]

In the next season

[turbid glacier]

the grind wasnt that bad tbh

[ember apex]

it will be when amirdrassil is the raid 1/3 of the time

its gonna take so much fcken time to get it

[elder oasis]

ok so different question. It says that SMF is like 1% behind TG...but is it really? i keep holding otu hope for it

[ember apex]

"it says"

post link

[frozen lake]

Smf is useless at the moment

[elder oasis]

its in the faq as a few percent off

[frozen lake]

It's a lot more than 1% at least for my sims

For expansion they gave to change it to just a transmog choice

[ember apex]

there's no 1handed legendary for SMF

[frozen lake]

This useless shit taking up talent space STILL is quite unbelievable

[ember apex]

so....

SMF is supposed to be the beginner/intro fury spec

b/c its mostly passives

[frozen lake]

It should just be a simple visual change

[elder oasis]

i agree

[past pivot]

More like 5-6% not counting legendary

[subtle goblet]

tldr: it was a system introduced last expansion where you could choose (2 or 3?) items directly to purchase over the season from vendors, and you unlocked them by defeating X-number of bosses on the relevant difficulty you wanted. It allowed for swift gearing in specific slots (such as trinket chasing, or weapon acquisition)

[elder oasis]

a tmog change to one handers for fury would be awesome

[subtle goblet]

it only existed because they made 3 different raids available simultaneously, and they recognized that gearing from 3 raids at the same time was unreasonable

[ember apex]

dude if blizz ever lets u transmog different armor types

[clever path]

i checked other class discords

[unreal onyx]

• you could get the mythic boss version of items you weren't able to kill the boss for

[clever path]

every other one is literally dead or sad

we are the fun class

[ember apex]

i already got all the s2 dragonflight priest transmog

[unreal onyx]

by collecting tokens from other myth bosses

[subtle goblet]

it was quite nice

[unreal onyx]

myth gavel + myth jaithys certainly was fun

[olive wraith]

You must’ve missed the arguments between which tier to vote for

[subtle goblet]

still required you to play the game, which is a perfectly fine requirement imho

[unreal onyx]

can't wait for myth ashkandur + leggo

[olive wraith]

Yes!

[elder oasis]

s2 tier set looked the best

[clever path]

i mean i did just join like 15 min ago lol

[olive wraith]

Asscandy leggo op

[ember apex]

i never got the mythic raszageth axe transmog from s1

[summer quail]

hey it's entertaining atleast

[ember apex]

hopefully i get it in s4

s3 is winning so there is justice in this world

[olive wraith]

What color was the mythic version

[ember apex]

idk yellow or blue or somethin

[turbid glacier]

have they said what dungeons they're gonna do?

[ember apex]

no

[olive wraith]

DF dungeons

[ember apex]

i hope they do df dungeons

yeah

[olive wraith]

Original 8

Think it was confirmed

[ember apex]

where?

[olive wraith]

I remember seeing a blue post either when they said we doing fated

[clever path]

oh my god

what

seriously?

[olive wraith]

Or shortly after

[clever path]

Halls of infusion 24/7 again

goddamnit

[tardy lark]

@modest condor you happen to know if it might be worth to not press exe during sub 35% as long as you can maintain ramp+bb through reck procs?

[olive wraith]

But we get AA and bh

[unreal onyx]

big W

[turbid glacier]

did we run irideus in S1?

[ember apex]

honestly HoF isnt that bad if u have kicks/stops for the first add set

the demoralizing shout is the worst debuff in the entire game

[modest condor]

i havent checked

[unreal onyx]

white

[ember apex]

ty i get a lot of shit but im happy to know im RIGHT on this issue

[wild mural]

L

[ember apex]

S2 is basically S3. juiced BT/BB

idk what u talkin about like if u hate s2 u hate s3

[wild mural]

i want 30s reck/rav back

[wary fjord]

It's not

Yeah

[ember apex]

s2 is actually less worse than s3

[wild mural]

it was a funner button to press than of

[ember apex]

b/c at least S2 was anger management

[summer quail]

s2 buffs rampage

[dense elbow]

We talking what to vote? Lads, Season 1, is the goat. THE GOAT of tiers. Vote S1

[tardy lark]

F

i have to do work

[ember apex]

u dont vote for what u like

u vote for what u want reworked

[wary fjord]

Hey, they might over adjust s1 tier cause of how bad it was

[wild mural]

if ppl picked s1 im sure that

we'd still use s3 tier

it was so bad

[ember apex]

its smart to pick s3 tier anyways b/c s3 tier was the strongest

[gilded belfry]

What cd def do you use on larodar mm to take 3th orb p1?

[ember apex]

so we force them to basically improve our strongest performing tierset

[wary fjord]

2 set makes execute guaranteed crit, 4 set makes execute do 300% damage on SD procs

[ember apex]

and they cant rework a nerf b/c everyone would be mad

so we're making them make us stronger by voting for s3

ur welcome btw

[unreal onyx]

[dusty aspen]

Yeah but s2 play style was a lot more fun

[summer quail]

strongest in st, s2 stronger for aoe

[ember apex]

s2 was less bad than s3 b/c at least s2 was anger management

[dusty aspen]

They can rework it to be stronger instead

[olive wraith]

I would like them to change it to work similar to current arms tier

Make the SD proc do something special

[wary fjord]

I still support just putting all the tier sets on one set

[ember apex]

i wish ashen juggernaut gave the condemn visual effect

[wary fjord]

It's a fated season, go crazy

[earnest galleon]

bring back 8 pieces of tier so we can have two at a time

[turbid glacier]

and balancing 160 tier sets

[dusty aspen]

Makes execute cast blood thirst. You will overcap rage and like it

[dusty aspen]

Actually this

[olive wraith]

No an aoe ability

[gilded pawn]

doesnt massacre do that

[ember apex]

no

[gilded pawn]

and you dont take ashen jug without massacre

[ember apex]

just the sound and the animation

[dusty aspen]

Aoe bloodthirst so you overcap rage even more

[ember apex]

im talking about the red smoke

[wary fjord]

Make execute cast execute at all targets in 8 yds

[red berry]

make execute a button that actually matters

[turbid atlas]

Anyone have any tips on making signet damage go up in M+? Seems pretty low usually

[red berry]

[ember apex]

make the whirlwind buff a 30 minute buff instead of just 4 stacks 20seconds

[wild mural]

stay in combat perma

[ember apex]

u need to stay in combat as long as possible

like taunt critters levels of combat

[low folio]

signet is horrible in keys if you cant stay in combat all the time

[wary fjord]

Remove whirlwind, our stuff just always cleaves

[turbid glacier]

its really up to your tank to chain pull for you

[ember apex]

wait what

thats actually sick AF

[turbid atlas]

this sounds like Fmage SKB pre buff all over again

[ember apex]

mod Evrawg

whats skb

[red berry]

signet is only good with proper uptime in keys yeah

so certain keys are better then others

[turbid atlas]

sun kings blessing. after 7 instant cast pyroblasts, the 8th hard cast gives you combustion for 5 seconds. It used to wear off if not in combat for 14s. they moved it up to 30s so mages can actually play M+ better

[ember apex]

mmmm

ok

[gilded pawn]

one is a trinket

one is a part of a kit

[wild mural]

WE LOST OUR WF

i hate this game

[winter shoal]

gg

[wild mural]

its joever

[summer quail]

[past pivot]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/melee-dps-trinket-cataclysmic-signet-brand-explained-learn-how-it-works-and-when-336868 Though you should use Augury and Might. Or if no Augury, get a Crab or Ember.

[turbid atlas]

okay so i should similarly stay fighting one target for this to proc the best in a pack

probably choose the largest health pool guy

[turbid glacier]

no just stay in combat pack to pack

[clever path]

Anyone know what the dream totem does in the raid?

[low folio]

signet relies on your tank

[covert blaze]

you need to not drop combat as much as you can

[low folio]

if your tank pauses between packs too long, your stacks are gone

[turbid atlas]

okay i got it. thanks

[covert blaze]

that article is actually very good, you should check it out

[lean wasp]

another week of no lego 🙂

[low folio]

and if they pause at the boss fight for too long. big loss

[turbid glacier]

its okay noob you'll never get it

[lean wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-morty-rick-and-gif-12767634

[low folio]

i thought you were just being mean and then i read his name lol

[violet condor]

isnt .5 next week where are the the balance changes?

[winter shoal]

[covert blaze]

still kinda mean

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[wary fjord]

surely they will announce the balance changes soon

[warm rain]

quick question for my fury bros, when you guys are crafting specifically weapons, do you always go for haste/mastery or do you still base it off what your stat weights are saying for current stat allocation?

[wary fjord]

I sim the crafted weapons

[lean wasp]

just benched myself from reclear so i keep my vault on hc 🙂

[rotund ginkgo]

UNDH DK DROPS IT

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-23901254

[warm rain]

you mean all the stat variations?

[wary fjord]

Yeah

[warm rain]

ok cool ty

[edgy widget]

better than your BDK getting it and not bothering to do the quest 😬

[flat sapphire]

Or holy pala

[rotund ginkgo]

he only logs in to raid

[wary fjord]

[barren stone]

have you droped it yet archi?

[rotund ginkgo]

the good part is taht he at least has good logs

[wild mural]

Im having fun doing smoldy

[barren stone]

[wild mural]

i dont wanna kill this

(i totally wanna do tindral)

[edgy widget]

Tindral is actually pretty fun once you get past the first 50 P1 wipes to figuring out mushrooms and dispels

[sullen basin]

does this kill the crab

with rage/2hissing

[north willow]

Maybe dumb question should i kill fyrak on all possible diff for lego?

[past pivot]

Just kill on highest difficulty.

[lean wasp]

am so desperate i do it anyway

[desert field]

I mean I do it, a chance is a chance even if it’s tiny..also still need augury

[outer flicker]

what profile do you guys use to sim fights like council and fryakk on raidbots or simc?

[past pivot]

There's not a chance for axe but there is for Augury

[north willow]

That’s what i wanna know can it drop if i killed it on hc on normal or lfr

[outer flicker]

can drop on all difficulties, just higher chance on harder content.

[unreal onyx]

you cant drop if if you killed it on hc

[desert field]

So killing it on heroic voids any chance for a normal or LFR drop to zero?

[unreal onyx]

highest diff rolls for lower difficulties aswell

doing hc only gives you the exact same odds as going lfr - nm - hc

so it's basically a waste of time to do lfr and nm for lego only

[desert field]

So the drop chance is zero in lower diffs if you killed it on your highest for that week already is my question

[unreal onyx]

yes

[quiet geyser]

Yes

[upbeat sentinel]

Do we just never use Lariat

[north willow]

Was that the same for evoker leggo?

[lean wasp]

am still doing it

[desert field]

Thank you. Well still need augury 😂

[unreal onyx]

im no evoker, so idk

[wary fjord]

Ye

[desert field]

Waiting for that leggo drop is bugged patch like legion 😂

[wary fjord]

I swear

[north willow]

I mean patch is gonna hit in like 3-4 months some people won’t even see that shit

[olive wraith]

I think if you’re max socket it pulls ahead of patch in aoe

[wary fjord]

If they say the Lego drop is glitched later

[edgy widget]

fyrakk is basically single target
council is just a shitshow; unless you have miracle tanks who actually stack stuff properly

[wary fjord]

[north willow]

@wary fjord even if it is they wont say it

[wary fjord]

U right

[odd nacelle]

Just be the duck every week and never have to sim

[wary fjord]

They giving us placebo embers

[unreal onyx]

s4?

you can still get it in s4

[desert field]

Like with legion…it was something like if a leggo dropped for you already, you had a higher chance of more dropping? Some people in guild had 2-3 while some had zero

IIRC

[wary fjord]

Lol

[north willow]

@unreal onyx will it be relevant tho? Don’t think so

[inner zinc]

for M+, would it typically be better idea to go double AoE trinkets(489 aug+483 might) or go balanced (rezan+might 483)?

[outer flicker]

thanks, arch. annoying because I fall a bit on those fights while I'm top on other fights.

[unreal onyx]

ofc it's gonna be, since they ilvl will be adjusted

[north willow]

Evoker lego wasn’t adjusted why would axe be

[past pivot]

Rezan is not an MT trinket. Might and Augury are BIS.

[unreal onyx]

bc aberrus was not the raid in S3

there will propably be a new higher ilvl evoker leggo in s4 too

[glad tangle]

second wind for bursting, warrior bros?

[inner zinc]

aight

[north willow]

@unreal onyx not that optimistic

[olive wraith]

Evoker will most likely be adjusted for s4

[unreal onyx]

it would make no sense why it wouldn't

[olive wraith]

At least that’s expected

[summer quail]

ofc you are, on tswift you're just there for the roots

[unreal onyx]

sylvanas bow was also upped in SL S4

(legendary)

[olive wraith]

It’s a fated season expectation afaik

[ember apex]

the little totem down in the area by raid entrance

[unreal onyx]

yea straight up basically removing items from the loot pool or the even less likely chance of them staying in but staying low ilvl

[olive wraith]

I left after Cata so didn’t play fated

[ember apex]

on the floor below where u stand?

[unreal onyx]

doesn't make sense imo

[wary fjord]

They are both crafted Legos too, so it wouldnt be hard for them to just let you recraft it with something

[blissful kestrel]

If I already killed h fyrakk is it worth clearing all other bosses for lesser embers

[ember apex]

definitely not

[unreal onyx]

afaik hunters were able to upgrade their S2 bow to S4 ilvl in SL

[ember apex]

but u may want to for vault slots

[edgy widget]

topping fyrakk involves fast pushes and padding adds, but that's not really something you sim for - that's more "convince the guild to bring knocks/grips to group all the adds and then let me blow them up"

Council is just about stacking bosses and not getting targeted by mechanics

[ember apex]

vault council was about timing ur spell reflect

(:

[upbeat plume]

He'll we don't even know what impact the lessees have if any could just be a placebo and we'd never know till they tell us otherwise

[wary fjord]

I am convinced it is all placebo, cause I don't trust blizzard

[upbeat plume]

Same here lol

[supple laurel]

thats it?!

[olive wraith]

I mean I’d still do heroic for lessers

[wary fjord]

Or each ember gives +.01 chance

So they can say that it technically did exist

[upbeat plume]

I'll get it or I won't I just don't care anymore it's not even an exciting leggo in the first place and every leggo spec is middle to bottom overall in raid atm it's such a joke.

[wary fjord]

Yeah

I'll get it last clear before s4

[ember apex]

the active ability is also channeled <_< not many ppl know this

[wary fjord]

So then I have to earn the upgrade thing for s4

[neon nacelle]

which is better for M+? Might483+signet483 vs might483+pip489?

[still swift]

yup!

[wary fjord]

If they just made the channel scale with haste, I wouldn't mind it as much

[upbeat plume]

Oh I do it's one of the main reasons it's barely worth more then a stat stick unhasted channel in 2024 for gcd locked melee specs what a joke

[ember apex]

they also hold the axe super high up

[upbeat plume]

I'd honestly rather get rid of the leggo and get proper tuning at this point lol

[olive wraith]

Probably pip cause brand value drops if you can’t keep up the buff

[wary fjord]

Truth

[ember apex]

unless u already have the leggo in which case u can keep it (:

[upbeat plume]

Lol

[wary fjord]

Nah, I'd rather just be stronger

[forest owl]

another week no axe for any of the main dps raider in my guild, but the prot pally that doesnt play ret got it and an alt thats done the raid i think twice got it. Nice system.

[wary fjord]

It's working as intended, as in they want to make as many people as possible still have a reason to log in each week for their corpo numbers

[zealous quail]

i would be more motivated to log in every day if it was something i could actually work towards and see my progress instead of cranking a slot machine once a week

[worn rain]

system like that already was in action in BfA

[wary fjord]

Yeah, I wish they just did an 8 week quest or something

[worn rain]

with cloak upgrade

I guess blizz have goldfish memory

[robust widget]

@unreal onyx you lied

[tardy lark]

GROSSE GLUT JAAAH

[wild mural]

yooooooooo

[unreal onyx]

my calculations were off apparently

[humble plover]

Warrior no math

[wild mural]

same

[next canopy]

Vote season 2!!!

[clever path]

^ based

[wary fjord]

Vote season 1 so blizzard has to freak out and figure out how to fix it

[next canopy]

Clap dem cheeks with onslaught baybay

Strictly play-style speaking

[wary fjord]

They put the vote up knowing season 1 wouldn't win so they probs have no thoughts on how to fix it

[next canopy]

Giga Kaching

[flat sapphire]

Or just be chad and go odyn anhi

[trim cape]

what was wrong with season 1

[wary fjord]

Everything

[olive wraith]

Man idk why people want s2 set. The boosted bt hits less than the boosted s3 set. And we get 3 every of cast

[next canopy]

Season 1 garbage

[wary fjord]

Until .5 it was ilvl over tier for the most part

[olive wraith]

Playstyle was good. Damage was ass. Execute isn’t that big for fury

[trim cape]

honestly i like S3's bonus

[barren stone]

we want it for the rotation and for the spender acutally being our top dmg agian LULW

[trim cape]

this is fun

[next canopy]

This is tuning not playstyle

[olive wraith]

That’s literally what the tier was

Stack by stacks