fury

[south kayak]

Arms was like top in nya

Sod

[azure holly]

you mean lizards

[gilded pawn]

arms only has better rankings in the last ocuple because they get a buff in the middle

[azure holly]

they have no scales

[south kayak]

And arms was pretty good in incarnates

[young swan]

after they got buffed

yeah

[modest condor]

fury was better for most of vault

arms hasnt really had a chance to shine in raid this expac

[slim coral]

Fury never gets buffs

Only nerfs

[meager gyro]

@young swan SMF stonks, it's barely behind https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r5g3f4vxdytrp6LqqNi1qe

[gilded pawn]

honestly

[slim coral]

[modest condor]

we got like 10% buffs in 10.0.5

since then it's been silent

[young swan]

sweet ty

[gilded pawn]

the most fucked up part of vault is that arms beats fury in council

thats really fucked up

[south kayak]

How

[azure holly]

wait is that ST sim?

[south kayak]

Arms has dots like rend

Going off when bosses blink away

[azure holly]

oh one hand build

[south kayak]

That’s big

[azure holly]

nvm

[south kayak]

Since rend does huge damage

[gilded pawn]

i mean primal council

the constant 4 target cleave

sorry

[fiery harbor]

i wish i had your zeal. i wanna visually use 1 handers for so long i wish i could just mog into them

[south kayak]

No shot

You gonna play it?

Pls do

[meager gyro]

Xan wanted a sim for the FAQ

[young swan]

i did indeed

[south kayak]

How much worse is it compared to 2h

[young swan]

not that much

in st anyways

its like

[south kayak]

What is not that much

[young swan]

<5% i think

[south kayak]

That is much

[young swan]

dont actually know for sure

[south kayak]

[young swan]

better than the 10% it used to be

it might be closer than that

could be 1-2%

[south kayak]

Funny how it’s better even tho we have a 2h legendary

[young swan]

yeah the lego makes the gap a lot wider

and its not close in aoe

[modest condor]

is that sim not with bis gear?

[south kayak]

That’s 489 1h weapons

So I assume so

I wonder how much that axe sims

Or is that a mace

[meager gyro]

I don't have premium

[south kayak]

The shadow flame one

[meager gyro]

y'all premium raidbots folks can find BiS for SMF

[sinful spoke]

U want the fyrakk one

And the wep from murozonds

The 1 handed

[south kayak]

Is it time strike

[sinful spoke]

Ifk

Idk

[modest condor]

oh the sim doesnt even have embellishments

[south kayak]

Btw guys I finally got time strike dagger on my rogue main

[sinful spoke]

Should i make a 2nd shadowflame piece for st?

[sullen dove]

what do you drop for smf talent

massacre?

[sinful spoke]

Im gonna sim it

[meager gyro]

oopps thought I added shadowflames

[south kayak]

2 time strike dagger smf

📈

[sinful spoke]

I dont play smg

Smf

I got leggo

[south kayak]

Damn

Gz

When

[meager gyro]

[south kayak]

I still don’t have it

[sullen dove]

do u take frenzied flurry

[south kayak]

Idk probably not

Smf is enough

[sour frigate]

what is timestrike

[south kayak]

10% chance to do 10% of the damage done

It’s a on hit change on a dagger

And some other Weapons

[sour frigate]

ah ofcourse rogues get juicy stuff

[south kayak]

Not just rogu s

Dhs

Hunters

[sour frigate]

[gilded pawn]

dh and hunter has timestrike too?

pog

[south kayak]

It basically does 1% of your damage

[sullen dove]

489 fyrakk weapon and rise weapon

[calm mantle]

We need to make all damage meters look like this.

[sullen dove]

and 233k base is with smf talented, so do nothing for 2handers

[sour frigate]

still its free

[south kayak]

Are we doing bigger dps than legion first tier

Probably not

I’m not sure

[fickle stirrup]

question y'all

[south kayak]

I had to do 33 falls for it

Not so free

[fickle stirrup]

do you save Branch to pair with CDs?

[sour frigate]

keks the half of my total key runs

[south kayak]

No reason to

[sullen dove]

branch from first boss? no it dont gotta be paired

[south kayak]

Since it doesn’t get buffed by your cds

But it’s better to use it asap

So you can use it later on cd

[fickle stirrup]

Ty! 🫡

[olive wraith]

Ss. And possibly massacre/1 vc for the node below if that sims better. Idek

[sullen dove]

def dont have ss

and aint no way i be droppin vc for smf

smf bad it is confirmed

[fickle stirrup]

No luck on Might trink yet so it was between Branch and Porcelain Crab

[olive wraith]

For st you don’t have ss?

[sullen dove]

is ss more than massacre?

idk thought not

not rly anything else youd drop for it

[meager gyro]

I can't get this weapon to 489 https://www.wowhead.com/item=207994/quelzaram-high-blade-of-the-lion?bonus=1592

[sullen dove]

yea slaughtering strikes turned to be like 600 dps less than massacre for me at least

ok convinced my guild to put me on first middle add nymue surely this is the run where i go huge

except jk no stick

[sinful spoke]

Nah bro first add is grief no?

Cause u gotta save pot for it

[sullen dove]

the fuck i do?

[junior gale]

First add is bis

[sinful spoke]

Yeah

[sullen dove]

pot boss huh

[eternal nebula]

i dont think you need pots for ad

[junior gale]

u dont

[sullen dove]

a pot is not making or breaking that add

but using cds on it is kind of a must

[eternal nebula]

unless u get bunched with people going in with no cds

[sullen dove]

so best first set where youre cds come up as you go to the add

[sinful spoke]

Yeah i mean im 2nd middle add and i have all my cds up for it

[winter shoal]

I said it before and I'll say it again, referencing this chart should require you to post your 95 parses on all bosses in mythic

[sullen dove]

u holding cds on first adds proly?

i not be doin that

[sinful spoke]

No

[sullen dove]

lol

wot

do you just kill them in like .4 femtoseconds

[dull sierra]

does 95 average count

[sullen dove]

3min cds almost always comes up on boss for me but idk

have to somewhat hold

[winter shoal]

Sure but you're not who posted it lmao

[dull sierra]

waa we suck

[sinful spoke]

Well my cds are 1.5m at most what 3 min cd are u using?

[dull sierra]

wait i actually have a 95 on volcoross too

thats me

[sinful spoke]

Im also considering runnign roar on nymue

I hate spear so much

[winter shoal]

Always roar every fight YEP

It's like 1% dps difference

[dull sierra]

why

[winter shoal]

Assuming perfect play with spear

[sinful spoke]

Because i just hate it

[dull sierra]

theres no issues with spear on nymue

[sinful spoke]

I just hate spear

[dull sierra]

just press it between lines

understandable

i hate fury

wcyd

[azure holly]

fuck spear

[sinful spoke]

And i did volc today with roar and did insane compared to before

[junior gale]

Spear is a shit abillity that doesnt belong in pve and anyone who tells you other wise is a stinky poopy head

[winter shoal]

r3 on Nymue uses roar, you're fine king

[azure holly]

based

[dull sierra]

does more damage :)

[junior gale]

thats not the point

[slim coral]

Sort by boss damage buddy

[junior gale]

but go on

[slim coral]

No padders

[sinful spoke]

Ty for validating me

[dull sierra]

bruh i just copy pasted what someone else was crying about idk

im meming

[sinful spoke]

True

[slim coral]

exposed

[sinful spoke]

I loved spear in SL for pcp

Run bladestorm

With the conduit that made it cast ms

= win

[dull sierra]

also how tf do u pad on volcoross baze

[slim coral]

I miss being meta

[dull sierra]

[winter shoal]

FWIW r18 on Volcoross (same guy) is using roar

[dull sierra]

adds in the lava or what?

[sinful spoke]

[winter shoal]

Based spear hater

[sinful spoke]

Im also having issues as to when actually to press the leggo

[dull sierra]

when ur not in cds

so

like

never

[sinful spoke]

Sometimes feel like i got no openings

Exactly

Its so aids

[dull sierra]

yes

it is dogshit

[sinful spoke]

I tried doing charge+ leggo at the same time cause sims say thats the best time to do it but it doesnt work

[silk wharf]

I would say anytime youd hit whirlwind and its up

[analog rivet]

can we haz some buffs for ST? xD

[sinful spoke]

Maybe leggo after charge hits?

[winter shoal]

Don't make me say it again

I'm tired boss

[azure holly]

do it

[analog rivet]

😛

[dull sierra]

this is the apl condition for it

actions.trinkets=use_item,name=fyralath_the_dreamrender,if=dot.mark_of_fyralath.ticking

so its

use it whenever u have dot

:)

[sullen dove]

i mean, second set of 1.5mins after pull

[slim coral]

Tindral nerfs need to hurry up

[sullen dove]

like spear in the last 10-15 seconds b4 second intermission

[slim coral]

I'm getting tired

[dull sierra]

nah can they wait a week

[junior gale]

Plz

[dull sierra]

we're on 1.3%

[sinful spoke]

This was my volc kill today https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tHyBrjLW9qx1T326#fight=12&type=damage-done&source=84

[analog rivet]

how far you on?

[sinful spoke]

Ahhh

[meager gyro]

this is how I cope with warrior dmg feeling meh

[slim coral]

600 pulls

more than any man should ever be

[analog rivet]

I can feel ya

[sinful spoke]

Im ngl

I kinda

Enjoy tswift prog

[south kayak]

With a clown ass transmog?

[analog rivet]

we are on that path too xD we just touched P2 with everyone

[azure holly]

get a therapist my guy

[sinful spoke]

Its kinda fun

[azure holly]

they are here to help

[dull sierra]

we're 345 in oof

[winter shoal]

I already know exactly who is gonna wipe us to seeds 300 pulls in a row and I'm dreading it

[south kayak]

Skill issue

[azure holly]

did you prog Avatar or K'J?

[dull sierra]

everyone because you miss one

[analog rivet]

y'all think ppl will rate it worse than avatar?

[azure holly]

no

[dull sierra]

i enjoy tindral

[azure holly]

Tindral actually has some cool design

Avatar and K'J was just pain

[slim coral]

No I didn't start until Nya

[sinful spoke]

[analog rivet]

yeah and no dumb rogue cheese neccesary

[winter shoal]

I mean, as long as I get mine I'm free to blame everyone else right

[dull sierra]

unironically the only bad thing about tindral is seeds

[slim coral]

Can't cary people

[dull sierra]

sure

[winter shoal]

I am a perfect player who has never made a mistake

[dull sierra]

im backup so its never my fault anyway

[winter shoal]

Everyone else is bad or padding

[azure holly]

everyone here gangster until they get thrown into pre-nerf K'J mythic

[dull sierra]

everyone else is hitting boss and not doing seeds

dont worry king ur perfect

[sinful spoke]

Nah id win

[analog rivet]

oh I don't wanna imagine,.... post-nerf KJ was enough to break me

[meager gyro]

forgot to change after vault and catalyst

[azure holly]

imagine being priest/pala and not playing goblin

[analog rivet]

I started as gnome-priest on that tier

[azure holly]

the gnome incident

[analog rivet]

swapped back to warrior for the last 😛

[azure holly]

blizz nerfed their racial because of that

[analog rivet]

and our monk went heal

[dull sierra]

okay but imagine this:

[analog rivet]

yeah,.... goblin racial still too good

[azure holly]

imagine a boss that is so badly tuned, people required race changes, which then prompts blizzard to nerf said racial

which was never a problem before then

[south kayak]

I get it though, I main rogue

[analog rivet]

or imagine everyone swapping professions and the raid requiring a mistweaver

[azure holly]

bruh I was unaware and picked blacksmithing in MoP

which granted stamina IIRC

[analog rivet]

haha

tailoring + engi ftw

procc + on use

[azure holly]

oh yeah engineering was dope

[meager gyro]

yeah I actually play 2 hander fury and my SMF alt is outlaw sry y'all that's what I meant by SMF mathematician

[south kayak]

Mop professions were dumb

[azure holly]

belt, cloak, enchants etc

[analog rivet]

tailoring was too @azure holly

[south kayak]

Everyone used one

Engineering

[analog rivet]

but I was more referring to fyrakk

[azure holly]

I felt like a king on my DK zooming around with nitro boost belt

those were the days

[analog rivet]

^^ we had one of our tanks reroll for paladin for tindral and our WW prepare MW,...

[meager gyro]

@young swan I fixed it to have embellishments, you probably did something different with it already but here it is https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1vqJtBcRTNhgkUjQCTAcWE

[oblique trail]

Illegal vault but

[tidal bear]

does anyone know of a way (either with an addon or wa) to show the timer for when flameshock comes out on mindbender in throne? I've tried looking but cant find one. It is spell reflectable but i basically have to guess when it is going to go out

[timid forge]

what do you guys think? crab?

[keen kindle]

How the fuck do you have like 2 heroics and an lfr slot in the middle

[oblique trail]

2 heroics?

[snow edge]

That is big

[keen kindle]

WAIT

[oblique trail]

That's 2x mythic + hc

[hard nacelle]

🤘

[keen kindle]

THATS AN 8

HOLY FUCK IM BLIND

[fading sky]

Thats a win

[keen kindle]

Gaming

[analog rivet]

nice, 10/10 vault

[clever belfry]

g

[oblique trail]

The hat even has a socket but who doesn't already have 489 socketed helmet

[fickle stirrup]

Branch from Raid or Porcelain Crab for m+?

[oblique trail]

We don't know your trinkets but Crab will have more uses of the two, depending on what else you have

[ebon chasm]

Oh no season 2 vote has pulled ahead

[fickle stirrup]

Augury is my other

[oblique trail]

Then get Might and use neither Crab nor Branch for M+

Or raid for that matter

[snow edge]

True, even I have a gog damn socket avoidance helm

[fickle stirrup]

I'm trying but the mf refuses to drop 😔

[oblique trail]

okok I'm not talking that high horse

[timid forge]

if i already have might/brand which would be better pips or crab?

[oblique trail]

I only got socket no tertiary

[snow edge]

It’s ok, I don’t have a single 489 weapon

[fickle stirrup]

Im just sitting on either branch or crab to pair with Augury since I have the flightstones to upgrade either

[oblique trail]

I go loot lego real quick

[junior gale]

A Socket

[oblique trail]

And hc augury

[subtle lagoon]

I just socketed my helm today (kill me already blizzard)

[oblique trail]

And go another week of no unsaved boosting

[runic pine]

So lego is just send on CD outside of CDs yeah?

[oblique trail]

In theory yes, there's a pin to see when

[snow edge]

Plz report back on legendary acquisition status

[fossil hatch]

in theory because we dont have it

[oblique trail]

In practice whenever it makes sense due to mechanics

[runic pine]

well ye lol

doesn't do you any good to root yourself in a swirly

[runic pine]

speak for yourself 🙂

[coarse epoch]

Got second 489 weapon in vault. But i wont take it, since this week fyralath drops (for sure)

[paper ivy]

14 BLP and still

no lego

[oblique trail]

Psycho WA

[coarse epoch]

Btw, is there any secenario for taking more haste, since legos dots scaling with haste?

[runic pine]

You loot it or you don't

BLP is placebo

[paper ivy]

i didnt, just killed fyrakk

[meager gyro]

LET ME GUESS 50/50 on if it drops 🤷

[runic pine]

absolutely

jokes aside

[meager gyro]

fucking cave man

[runic pine]

that WA just seems like a good way to get angy

[paper ivy]

useless vault items, no leggo ehhh

[runic pine]

socket legit good item

[meager gyro]

only need like 3-4 sockets whole season if you doing it right

[south kayak]

Im literally not even playing my warrior except for one fyrakk hc weekly run

[spark jackal]

Hey Guys. Im Missing trinkets so hard atm and have this in the vault. Its shit because of the CD right ?

[gilded pawn]

It also scales with crit and vers

[oblique trail]

It's not good for warrior, no

[gilded pawn]

So you play whatever sims the best

[meager gyro]

same, just a HC fyrakk kill and log out. I'm not even playing my warrior alts on boss

[spark jackal]

Fml. Im running blue trinkets cause nothing dropps....

[slim coral]

why do people play prot pally and not know how to heal

[oblique trail]

Because they've not played holy paladin?

Weird question

[slim coral]

I mean it's part of the kit though?

[runic pine]

I may not be the meta class, but I do pump on raid night so 🙂

[slim coral]

Surely pressing an ability isn't hard

[meager gyro]

fantasy class, la la land is where most warriors/pallies/druids/hunters/shamans exist

[oblique trail]

You'd be surprised how many people don't use their kit

[runic pine]

you're expecting someone to think about the group and not themselves

[slim coral]

It's just crazy

[oblique trail]

Are you aware of how many people don't know how SR works

That it's a DR?

[slim coral]

in a 28 a prot can't off heal

[meager gyro]

Hekili doesn't tell you to use your kit, so they don't know

[runic pine]

more importantly you're expecting a role that is known for mediocrity to not be mediocre

tank players are ass

because the community allows them to be

[slim coral]

Well I def don't

I flame the fuck out of em

[meager gyro]

start leaving keys earlier when the tank sucks, that'll show them. You'll wait longer to get into next group than them, they'll learn

[slim coral]

Prot pally didn't bop once on a 28 brh

[runic pine]

The bar is quite literally "did he die" for tanks

[slim coral]

....

[runic pine]

||bop deez nutz||

[sullen dove]

damn killed nymue b4 third intermission

that feels kinda sick

[runic pine]

hate that fight

glad I sat last week on it cuz too many melee

[sullen dove]

NO

NMO

FUYCK

I HAD SLAUGHTERING STRIKES

FROM SIMMING EARLIER

[sullen dove]

this is ur fault

i blame u for -500 dps

[olive wraith]

Lel

[runic pine]

wait people run that in raid?

[sullen dove]

thats what im sayin blud

ripge

[runic pine]

2% pick rate on volco

[sullen dove]

i wouldve been like 1-2 ranks higher surely

[runic pine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/842201708230344727/1055487345337577522/skateparkge.gif

1% on nymue

wadu hek

[sullen dove]

i am the 1%

thats actually crazy

i got turned into a statistic

end me

[fossil hatch]

no mythic boss killed, 4 mythic set pieces Good system

[red yew]

Looks like my Sks shenanigans last tier

[oblique trail]

lol owned

check yourself before you reck yourself

[sullen dove]

so we jus killed volc in the exact same time as last week 3:43

and did 1k less dps with 1 higher ilvl

and this week i had 60% ebon might uptime as opposed to 20% ebon might uptime last week

time to whip out the cancel aura

cowfarmers had it right

[oblique trail]

No lego again this week surely next week

[sullen dove]

this time it was an actual legendary diff that i didnt r1 igira

[oblique trail]

I would've prob had R1 Council if I did have it

But alas I do not

[sullen dove]

council is so eugh

wiped on it a few times tonight

had like 2 i think semi good pulls

pips teleported near bosses and i aoe all 3

[soft merlin]

next week 100%

[boreal widget]

is the protection per char or account wide?

[oblique trail]

Per character

Would be silly if you could get a bunch of alts to use the BLP then have an increased chance on your main

[serene oar]

https://wago.io/LyVvlKxvs

[olive wraith]

Flame shock is instant

Does that show a timer before it’s casted?

@serene oar

[stark zealot]

Yeah it shows a little icon next to the nameplate like the picture

You can try to spell reflect every other cast

[elder vessel]

I can’t even imagine this level of suffering

I’ve had the legendary since 12/11

To be honest after having it for a while

[frosty heron]

atlast

[elder vessel]

It’s kinda mid

[frosty heron]

the 1.9% upgrade and last item i needed for fury

[oblique trail]

I think a lot of people know it's mid

[elder vessel]

Idk I know some people who cope and think it’s gonna solve there problems

[oblique trail]

Still, not having it blows dick

[elder vessel]

It’s a nice upgrade but it’s not like

A “ holy shit “ level upgrade

On use is so boring to use

[oblique trail]

My biggest issue with it is knowing I've been beat by people in parses just because they got orange weapon and I don't

[elder vessel]

Bad sound design as well on it

It would be sick if it was like

Press button epic charge sound

SHING SHING SHING BOOOOOOM

but it’s more like zero audio then a small fart on its final hit

I guess that could get annoying

I don’t rly care too much about that stuff personally

[slim coral]

[golden inlet]

Our guild tank got fyrak axe and now he's switching to Fury and refusing to tank 😂

[stark zealot]

Hell yeah

[golden inlet]

But that dot is some nice dmg

[oblique trail]

I would not be playing prot either if I had the option not to

[fallen glacier]

I honestly think this fyrak axe is the lowest point in the game for me

I know its not rational to be so upset about the rng but man is this getting old

[sullen tendon]

wait until you find out BLP doesnt matter at all

[tidal bear]

Just saw this, thanks! Will try it out tomorrow

[dawn prism]

guys even critcake is voting s2 😭 i can't take another season of perma 1.5m CD with autoattack and slam talents

[oblique trail]

Yeah well vote for the season you want

[nocturne dragon]

Alright let the S2 vs S3 continue again. I was worried why it died so quick.

[oblique trail]

Please do not

=)

[ionic mortar]

i mean whatever gets recommended wins, it's like that in every class discord

[oblique trail]

Very nice and peaceful when apes aren't throwing fecal matter at each other for having differing opinions

[nocturne dragon]

Well we have to manage our anger then

[north geyser]

what should I take of this? I already have 489 tier legs, I have a bunch of 483 necks like tindral and nymue, so probably neck though? it's crit/mastery vs haste/mastery from tindral neck

[ionic mortar]

tbh my vote was for s2 not only for the cdr feeling more dynamic to play but because i didn't want to play with the same bonuses for a year straight ):

[north geyser]

just realised pic didn't upload

[sullen dove]

yea neck is pretty good

unless you have good stuff worth socketing

maybe its not as valuable as a socket but tbh neck is pretty irreplaceable

maybe brh neck slightly better

[fathom wolf]

Whats the play on M Smolderon cooldowns wise? Blow them all at once on pull and try and spawn your first set of orbs as far back as possible?

[sullen dove]

yea

[oblique trail]

Basically yes

[north geyser]

I think I'm pretty well geared 489 helm would be good to put a socket on... IF I HAD ONE

[oblique trail]

First intermission, stand on/leap to Red marker and get knocked back (do not jump). Wait a sec or so till all your orbs are out, then you can charge back. Delay picking them up for as long as you can without letting them go to the boss

Is how you'd go about it

[sullen dove]

probably def wanna save leap for getting back now out

cuz you get knocked really far

and have to run for like 1-2 seconds b4 u can charge

[oblique trail]

Idk I use leap to go out

But we also have time spiral or w/e that evoker ability is called

[nocturne dragon]

Sim time then

[oblique trail]

To get 2x leaps

[sullen dove]

time spiral

[north edge]

There’s a 489 head readily available

[sullen dove]

yea i mean socket is prolly worth bit more than neck but yea ideally you wouldnt wanna socket helmet or other ring till u get somethin better

[north edge]

It’s like 500k off the ah

Catalyse it

[sullen dove]

only 500k

also a mythic one?

[north edge]

Small price to pay

[sullen dove]

feel like itd be more

[north edge]

Ye it’s 500k on NA

[fathom wolf]

You are a life saver thank you. Ive been sitting at the edge and getting knocked into lava and leaping back but I think I was doing it to fast and spawning them close anyway.

[sullen dove]

bonzai is a hero to all

[north geyser]

yeah I guess

also just dropped tusks (fucking pog) so gotta sim my optimal tmog first

[oblique trail]

Forgot to mention the blue marker was for 2nd intermission

But yeah that's basically how I went about it last night for my kill and all of prog

[wild mural]

lez go

[errant vessel]

Do you know how long jump will send you? Just approx

[oblique trail]

Like 1.5 rings worth?

Something like that

If you jump while standing on the red marker I put on the picture, you will be sent to Narnia (the lava)

If you don't, you'll land right on the edge of the platform safely

[errant vessel]

Okay so if I stand on red circle and jump I’ll be gucci

[oblique trail]

If you want to land in lava

Not standing on the ground will send you way further than if you were to just stand still on the ground

Especially if you're mid leap

[errant vessel]

Yeah leap fucks you up

[spring oar]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/warrior-fury/tindral-sageswift-seer-of-the-flame Check this site out

[errant vessel]

Just wanna minmax uptime so imma try and find the jump distance

[oblique trail]

Honestly your uptime doesn't matter too much at that point

You should have OF ready so no reason to BT him, and you got no CDs rolling either and are waiting anyway

But I just stick to him and then leap out and land like .5 sec before slam hits

[clever path]

wow

vault is so dogshit

[eternal sundial]

Sockets are never bad

[wild mural]

sockie big win

I only need 2 more

[eternal sundial]

I prepick for larodar Ring

I think

[wild mural]

you're gonna use larodar ring?

[eternal sundial]

On arms ye

[wild mural]

oh

arms

[eternal sundial]

Idk how far i can justify arms

[wild mural]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4wsDCHB6zuAJdPwAeHW6T9

only 2 more weeks of taking sockies

[eternal sundial]

I feel like it's defo capable of non dogshit dam on fyrakk but tindral is fury boss innit

[oblique trail]

You can play Arms on either

But Fury will just be better

[eternal sundial]

Arms on tindral

[sullen dove]

i think i unironically will make use of ebon might cancel aura next week

on easy bosses at least

[eternal sundial]

#fightback

[sullen dove]

i have succumbed

my dam was def yoinked on volcoross

[oblique trail]

[sullen dove]

tbh its prolly prescience instead of ebon might thats causing more of the issue

[wild mural]

our aug keeps needing to change to mw

[sullen dove]

but both to be safe

[red yew]

I think I tilted my Aug last tier when using that..

(On farm ofc)

[vivid egret]

Wait y wouldn’t u want those buffs

Does It mess up parses?

[wild mural]

ye

you lose dps on your parse

[vivid egret]

Hmmm@

Is it a large margin?

[eternal sundial]

Cant quantify it

Log hooks bad

[oblique trail]

Don't actually use that macro if you care remotely about killing the boss

[oblique trail]

I'm pretty sure you actually steal damage from the Aug on some bosses

Like Smolderon it doesn't properly work

Not sure if it's real lore

[eternal sundial]

Fatal mark is unattributed

Hit a 10 Mil on smoldo all u

[red yew]

[pulsar prawn]

my char is to dumb to hit trinkets...

[sullen dove]

my fmage claims prescience is the biggest offender as it still takes a portion of your crit damage even when you have 100% crit ergo combustion, stands to reason it does a similar thing for our bloodbaths

could probably compare average bbs in both of my kills to see if that looks right

[runic pine]

I cri I dc'd mid boss fight on last boss

my pad was killed

[sullen dove]

other stuff could still be messed up with it

[runic pine]

shit kinda slaps in keys

[clever path]

okay guys

time to get

the legendary

fyrrak kill inc

and happy me

[runic pine]

I believe in you

[summer bobcat]

guess who got signet band and augury in back to back vaults 😄

[wild mural]

I believe

not copium

surely I get augury this week

[runic pine]

furries don't get trinkets

[summer bobcat]

i might turn into a warrior main

[wild mural]

idk

im doing alright for stuff

just no augury

[proud crown]

lego waiting room

[wild mural]

I dont need anything else

i only use might+brand atm

[wild mural]

never use my rezans

[summer bobcat]

i really need to upgrade my gears from 483 HC to 489

how much dps would i gain from going like 482 i lvl to 486?

[runic pine]

at the point where there's not much more for me to loot

[wild mural]

only the important legendary quests

[runic pine]

idk sim it

[summer bobcat]

idk how to sim that

[wild mural]

I only need DHT belt and augury

and myth upgrades

[runic pine]

I looted DHT belt with a hole

[wild mural]

where myth track

[pulsar prawn]

same but no augury and also no might of the ocean thingy

[eternal sundial]

I need dht ring/brh neck from m+

And then a bazillion more funny items on arm

[wild mural]

I dont need DHT ring

I don't think so anyway

Im still kinda high on haste

[eternal sundial]

My arms set hat 29% haste im so doomed

Need larry ring or TOTT neck ig

[runic pine]

tryna see if there's even anything worth crafting

[eternal sundial]

crafting arm shit

[wild mural]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pk7yuGPQ2fvdeYAGFJFMKN need belt w versa, myth shoulders, rings are only uppie cause of sockie

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uL816qKPhFXh28BcD6Wxax

could craft a ring but again its sockie uppie

wait it didnt sim w sockie :/

[nocturne dragon]

How high?

[wild mural]

26

[amber tinsel]

Hey guys, Ember of Nullification a good trinket for fury ? got it into my weekly chest and it sim insanely high but don't understand how it works

[wild mural]

even from mythic raid I've got almost no upgrade

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5ps5W1N8AS6kBXfZqxXhpo

[clever path]

not the best

but its up there

[oblique trail]

It's a great passive trinket for M+

Augury is better for pure damage, but Ember is probably the best alternative with a defensive benefit as well

[errant vessel]

It’s extremely good

[gleaming kestrel]

Guys I need your help to choose the best item

Guys I need your help to choose the best item

[errant vessel]

Don’t worry about the silence effect

[south kayak]

Imagine getting 2 weapons in a vault

Im not gonna help you

[gleaming kestrel]

what do u think about this items 2 mythic weapon and this heroic trinket

[summer quail]

I wouldn't say "Extremely" it is solid tho

[south kayak]

Why don’t you sim it?

[errant vessel]

It’s only underneath Aug dmg wise for me and it’s not by a lot

[south kayak]

What weapons do you have?

[gleaming kestrel]

hmm i think ur comment maybe is good 🙂

[runic pine]

tf how you simming so high

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fp5dLJrUuPnD9uebMyzjnY

reeee

[amber tinsel]

thanks guys, appreciate

[wild mural]

imma gigachad

double sfp to

[south kayak]

My rogue is 236.500

Im 484 though

[wild mural]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/656RuPx2AZVqzCx7KoApin just quicc sim

[oblique trail]

Corrupting Rage simmers

[eternal sundial]

Syi sims like i did last week

[oblique trail]

Stay natty and sim with versa

[wild mural]

i run corrupting rage thop

im running corrupting rage on smoldy prog

[eternal sundial]

Check buff uptime in intermission

[runic pine]

versa phial is like 1.5k dps loss now so I'm actually running corrupting

was sub 1k before I got lego

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[south kayak]

Bring back main stat flask

[pulsar prawn]

you should consider adding informations if you ask people something 🙂

[runic pine]

true and real

[south kayak]

What boss are you on

Matt

[pulsar prawn]

still its less than 1% of your dmg .. vs unlimited tankyness

[runic pine]

Wild, I'd almost gain 3k dps if I went human

[oblique trail]

Maghar is dookie

It is what it is

[runic pine]

bout to start Smolderon

Larodar died last week, think we're gonna start extending

[oblique trail]

Monka smolderon extending

[pulsar prawn]

you extend after smolderon..

[wild mural]

smoldy dies tonight

surely

[summer quail]

You reclear so fast atm tho. Extend after smold

[runic pine]

barely anyone needs anything

[clever path]

who even chooses brown orc instead of real green chad

wtf

L

[runic pine]

and we're 1 day a week

[oblique trail]

Who even chooses orc in general

[clever path]

sorry i forgot you are a furry

[gentle cliff]

Guys is there anything specific to keep in mind while simming as warrior? Anything in the footer? Patchwerk sims?

[oblique trail]

wat

[clever path]

vulpera is the way right

[oblique trail]

I don't have a single vulpera character

[clever path]

lies

[oblique trail]

I would play vulpera if it wasn't like -4k dps

[south kayak]

Im a human individual

[wild mural]

same

[runic pine]

Like ye yall are prolly right for most groups it’s best to extend after smolderon but we only raid 4 hours a week on one night

[pulsar prawn]

depends what kind of guild you are.. we concidered reclear 2x for the skip.. but since were only playing 2 days reclearing is still a loss of 25% of raidtime

[wild mural]

imagine the power of 2 day guilds if they did 3 days

[oblique trail]

Imagine the power of the 5 day guilds who are barely mid Tindral prog now if they didn't raid 5 days

[wild mural]

ayooooo

[runic pine]

At the end of the day though I’m two bosses ahead of my old guild that kicked me on half the raid time a week

And that’s what matters

[pulsar prawn]

only for normal/heroic at beginn like 2-3 IDs (no splits)

[runic pine]

That’s the problem with adding more days tbh, I feel like the more time you add the less care for each pull there is because you have such an abundance of time

Not for all guilds/groups obviously

[pine gust]

Hey, I don't play fury on my warrior but would like feedback on a talent build one of our warriors is running if anyone has a minute. I don't see anything like this on Subcreation and I'm curious if it's a slightly suboptimal but valid choice or if it's trolling:

BgEAfuKaizEAgP2qANDB2hmf7HAAAAAAAAAAQAoEEEhEiQS0gEiAhESARSSkkkEBRapkkEQSAAAQAQA

[eternal sundial]

Can you maybe translate that into an image of the tree

[pine gust]

Yep one sec

[oblique trail]

I mean looking at it, it's fine

[oblique trail]

But you have no WW talents

So this is strictly an ST build

If you were to do any sort of AoE, you'd have to remove probably bloodcraze and 1 point in vicious contempt

But I don't really know how to optimise SMF at all for AoE

[frigid cipher]

he is running single minded fury tho

which is interesting

[oblique trail]

Yes I'm aware

[eternal sundial]

It's the correct talents for the bad build

[fading sky]

well is it dagger specc ?

[frigid cipher]

if you wanna be optimal, he shouldn't be gonig single minded fury and 1h

he should be going 2h

[summer quail]

I guess bloodcraze and 1 point VC?

[frigid cipher]

this would be more optimal imo

drop the 2 points all the way on the left

and put them into the execute ones on the right

[fading sky]

unless he runs 1handers ?:D

[pine gust]

He does

[frigid cipher]

damage wise

[fading sky]

then he is facked

[frigid cipher]

thats not optimal

[fading sky]

no matter what

[frigid cipher]

yup

[oblique trail]

Is what I said

[summer quail]

Ah i'm blind

Mb

[frigid cipher]

whats his reason for playing 1h's? just preference looks wise or did he not know that it results in damage loss?

[pliant flax]

I rocking the lego and the 1 Hand Axe from fyrakk for the memes (i actually dont)

[eternal sundial]

Sometimes people just wanna do dumb shit

Like playing arms on prog

[frigid cipher]

true, thats why im curious

[errant vessel]

it feels slightly smoother to play 1h build

[frigid cipher]

but arms is fun 😢

[errant vessel]

some people pref that

[clever path]

let the man fantasize about using one handers

just as big as his D

[frigid cipher]

i mean, that would be a viable reason for sure

[pine gust]

That's what I'm trying to figure out. He doesn't want to run Rallying Cry for some reason either and I don't really get that, it feels big too me

[eternal sundial]

I agree man that's why im doing full arms reclear

[frigid cipher]

having fun is the most important in the end

[eternal sundial]

With more mast than haste end me

[clever path]

meters is where fun is at

the DPS

[frigid cipher]

i very much agree

[clever path]

one handers = smaller dps

[frigid cipher]

but not everybody does

[clever path]

smaller dps = no fun

why even play warrior at that point

[fading sky]

well aug has destroyed meters anyways

only fun raid

is one without aug

[clever path]

pay gold to aug in raid

[frigid cipher]

biggest easy dps upgrade for him is get 2x 2h and stop using SMF

[clever path]

to get all the buffs

and pay priest to get pi

[fading sky]

also this pug has

3 rets in WFT grp

i mean idno what to say

and 3 warriors outside wft grp

[oblique trail]

Didn't see he didn't pick rally. Tell them to drop Seismic and pick Rally

Seismic is dogwater piss bad

[fading sky]

also dont u spear in smf ?

or not worth ?

when its full st

[pine gust]

Not looking to force super optimization on him, just need to know if I sit him for running this or if it's... Fine-ish

[oblique trail]

I mean regardless of whether or not you're SMF, Spear is still better for ST

[frigid cipher]

fine-ish sure, but its not a great build for damage

[fading sky]

like JIB im ngl

i would sit

unless he is a vastly sup player to the rest of ya team

[summer quail]

Depends on the content you do. Like for hc who cares

[oblique trail]

If you're doing HC then playing SMF or not isn't going to make or break it

[pine gust]

He is not

[fading sky]

yea i was presuming it would be mythic

if u ask for sitting ppl

[pine gust]

Pushing on mythic Larodar

[oblique trail]

But if you're progging mythic then yes, you should tell him to swap or just sit him

[fading sky]

ah bench for sure

then

[summer quail]

Ohh that's bad ahahha

[fading sky]

im advocate to play what u like, but if u are proggin in a like mine somewhat mid guild

u really need all the help u can get

[frigid cipher]

yikes

[errant vessel]

if the guild doesn't mind - it's fine

lots of casual mythic guilds as well

[clever path]

l0l

[summer quail]

If it was like first 3 bosses for easy kills that would be fine as well i think

[clever path]

might as well reroll rogue if you want SMF

[fading sky]

larodar isnt hard for good guilds

but it is not easy for the rest of us

[errant vessel]

SMF feel isn't remotely close to rogue though xd

it plays like fury, just feels smoother

[clever path]

But they want SMF to push mythic

which is super stupid

[errant vessel]

I mean

if his guild doesn't mind

[sage rune]

how much is the dps difference between smf and not smf?

[fading sky]

well u loose a decent amount of st esp execute dont u ?

[oblique trail]

If you compare SMF to TG with Lego, probably like 10%?

[runic pine]

A lot

[oblique trail]

Something like that

[sage rune]

without lego

[fading sky]

gotta be more than 10%

if leggo is 7%

[oblique trail]

Without lego probably more like 7%~

Been a while since I last checked

[errant vessel]

ye 7% last time I checked

donno if that's S2 numbers actually

Gholak helps quite a bit

[fading sky]

esp since u run VC now ?

[sage rune]

7% dps loss kinda troll then

[unreal crane]

"don't worry man, you will get your weapon within a week of vault"... no weapon from gnarlroot the past 3 weeks either

[frigid cipher]

i wonder what his actual choice is behind running SMF

out of curiosity

[unreal crane]

its been 8 weeks now with no wpn

[eternal sundial]

Demonic bars

Asmongold ah setup

[young swan]

posted

[errant vessel]

most likely how smooth it is

[frigid cipher]

could very well be

[runic pine]

“How smooth it is”

Bruh

Fury is smooth rn period

[frigid cipher]

ive never played it

so i couldnt' say

[finite nimbus]

how much dps increase is fyralath

[errant vessel]

and SMF is smoother - your point is? xd

[eternal sundial]

5%ish

[runic pine]

I’m not sure how it could be smoother

[cosmic adder]

me pressing rampage bloodbath, but smoother

[errant vessel]

evening out swing time makes rage regen smoother

instead of chunks

and I'd imagine it's a bigger feel diff with annihilator build

[runic pine]

If you get into the rhythm of BT>something else>bt and don’t send rampage under 100 rage you’re not going to have weird gaps

[eternal sundial]

Smoother brained

[runic pine]

? My swing time with 2h weapons is like 1.2 seconds lol

[errant vessel]

imagine if your swing timer was 44% of that

that's a noticable difference in how it feels

not arguing whether it's optimal or anything - it's obviously not

[runic pine]

I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t be 44% of that

[errant vessel]

nvm that's dagger fury

72% of it

forgot 1hs are 2.6 speed

[clever path]

was asmongold a good warrior?

or he was just getting carried

[errant vessel]

not in terms of dmg output

but he knows a lot about the game

[sour frigate]

[clever path]

l0l

[errant vessel]

and his knowledge compensates in raid settings most of the time

[clever path]

i dont need to know about the game when i have a dbm lady yelling at me what to do

[runic pine]

Asmon was probably good at one point

[young swan]

he was decent

not great

[late cradle]

I mean, he was not bad, killed some last mythics bosses, decent pvp rating, he was doing high difficulty content

[runic pine]

But he’s washed and can’t be bothered to play the game now

[young swan]

not terrible

[late cradle]

not the best, but good

it was not a reference either

still good

[fading sky]

Another week another NOT legendary week

i mean

this is getting to fuckin frustrating i dont wanna log into raid anymore

[late cradle]

not a reference like Critcake/Biz are now, for example

[errant vessel]

I'm gonna clear lfr, normal and then heroic this week

[unreal crane]

he figured out reacting to shit instead of playing games (altho he does sometimes) is way easier to do than farming mounts in wow

[errant vessel]

just to see if blizzard fkd up the math

like they did in D4

[sour frigate]

Influencermode?

[unreal crane]

ya

altho he doesn't carea bout money ..more like its easier cuz its lazy content

[weak condor]

Is it possible to get the legendary from Vault?

[unreal crane]

and the % of ppl watching that in wow is extremely small so it wouldn't fit with his new growing viewerbase

no its a quest item

q regarding that: do 1 greater and 1 lesser is still the cap for the week ?

[slender perch]

these embers are horseshit!

another week another greter ember

[clever path]

thats because you are not me

im getting my legendary today

[slender perch]

yeah#

hope so

[sour frigate]

Yeah git gud

[unreal crane]

DK got i first 2-3 weeks ago, last week was the Ret & heal pala..any day now for me

[clever path]

i dont have the guild i just want to join pugs and show off

writes in note: got lege

insta accept

[sour frigate]

U should know that someone failed to get naszuro having 4 dracthyrs

[unreal crane]

So whats the concensus on the fury set bonus..I hope everyone here voted for Season 3?

[sour frigate]

I voted s1

[sage rune]

this is bait right

[sour frigate]

[slender perch]

season 2#

[oblique trail]

There is no consensus

Because everyone wants a different set

[unreal crane]

i DONT wanna go back to fucking ravager

[sage rune]

ravager is THE move

[hazy cedar]

I hate anihilator

[vapid mulch]

You mean go back to arms 😂

Ravager is awful

[sour frigate]

Well annihilator seems more chill than smashin rb with 90 haste

[jolly mist]

tbh the best solution would be to put ravager in class tree

[vapid mulch]

Bladestorm>ravager

[jolly mist]

cause i cba getting carpal tunnel again

[eternal sundial]

Season 1>

[minor cape]

Thank you Blizzard for completely ruining this tier for me, clearing HC every week since the start and no leggo while there are stinky alts with one hc kill and leggo, fucking frustrating

[eternal sundial]

Simply aquire the item

[minor cape]

this is just not fun anymore

[hazy cedar]

The tier set ruined the tier 🙂

[errant vessel]

ngl I'm gonna raidlog as well this week if I don't get leggo

[clever path]

roll anything besides paladin please

paladin is l take on the game

sus

[errant vessel]

how much have you played it?

[minor cape]

cba rerolling, just zero will to play the game literally

[unreal crane]

if S2 wins i wont even bother with fated

[clever path]

then dont

[sour frigate]

Frost dk basically fury with bigger opener

[clever path]

touch grass

touch wife maybe

[sour frigate]

I tried its worthless

[clever path]

because its winter

[unreal crane]

going back to RB is

[clever path]

no grass

[hazy cedar]

Enough

[sour frigate]

We had no snow till yesterday

[clever path]

Can I just kill Fyrrak and not clear the whole raid?

for chance at legy

[errant vessel]

because I have a theory that most people hating on S3 tier set haven't played it a whole lot

[hazy cedar]

Yes

[clever path]

nice

[clever path]

I dont mind season 3 tier set stuff, in fact I think its good

Just gotta mix stuff up a bit, do something different now

Its like having same gf for 2 years

just gets boring

[hazy cedar]

I raid mythic so I play this season enough to say the tier is bad. The raid itself is really good and the m+ amazing which is why I didn't quit

The tier set made the season mid while if I played it with season 2 it would be amazing

[errant vessel]

tbf I'd vote S1/S2 if they made Unbridled Ferocity deterministic

[clever path]

i mean

lets see

5 days to go

socketmaxxing

[unreal crane]

oh God

[stuck bison]

nice to see

[frigid cipher]

[unreal crane]

i hope bliz just trolls us all and gives us s1

well they gonna tally both US and EU votes so

[ebon chasm]

Can anyone see the US poll?

[fading sky]

Legendary needs to be Something we can fucking farm

this is a joke

[unreal crane]

yup

or atleast give us a way to see how much % we are into luck protection and not have to rely on a script macro

[upper token]

Hopefully there will be a dinar equivalent in s4 to get rid of the rng

[oblique trail]

Using the script tells you nothing though?

And knowing the % doesn't tell you anything either

"Oh I'm at 25% chance to get it but didn't get it gg hate this game"

[minor cape]

Like what does 15 BLP stack tells you anyway, its complete shit

[unreal crane]

shows u if you used this week..cause i still dont believe its 1 greater and 1 lesser per week

[upper token]

Doesn't the script only tells you "yup. this character got an ember alright"?

[oblique trail]

But

Knowing how many embers you've used

Still tells you nothing