fury

[warm crag]

i will be picking my might immediately

[dense elbow]

Just want to point out, if legendary brought with into s4, then s2 fury warr wont get as much from it as s1. So if you are a s2 enjoyer, but like Legendary more, you should vote s1.

[fading sky]

so far ive had 3 weeks of sockets 😄

[eternal sundial]

I only have 1 so far Sadge

[sour frigate]

spear into 700k bt

[eternal sundial]

Need 1 for belt, 2 for rings in future

[clever path]

Roar into mobs = 1 mil

[sour frigate]

i pulled like 1.5kk+ as arms in s2

[oblique trail]

I will be picking Augury actually I just fooled you

You have been fooled

[sour frigate]

🍵

[oblique trail]

Get rolled

[warm crag]

DAMN IT!

[dire badge]

🪤

[clever path]

Yeah bladestorm pops off, I could do the same thing first packs freehold

Legendary tomorrow boys

I can’t wait

It’s happening

[eternal sundial]

New thing

[sour frigate]

bracken neltarion and neltharus could do too

[dire badge]

[peak lagoon]

everyone simping for S3 set when they could be running S2 set with RA aswell and have way better cleave

[clever path]

These dungeons made me love s2 fury 😦

[upbeat sentinel]

If I'm intent on titan's grip, should I be opening my vault as Arms?

[tender seal]

What a coincidence, i was actually planing on looking legendary tomorrow as well !

[dire badge]

wait that makes being passive aggressive even better

[oblique trail]

I mean if it really was way better then why wouldn't people use it all of S2, and if they did, why did people almost unanimously use AM?

[peak lagoon]

because they changed how RA works

in current patch

1 hit instead of 2

[dense elbow]

Give S2 the 50% bonus dam for OF, or better yet, give OF a 51% baseline buff - and I will vote for s2

[oblique trail]

Yeah I don't know if the change is enough to completely get rid of AM

[peak lagoon]

so now it giga buffs tierset BB

and you can use onslaught without griefing CB stacks

[oblique trail]

People still used AM going into S3

[dire badge]

yes unless you specifically want a one hander always be in arms loot spec

[oblique trail]

With S2 set

[peak lagoon]

you'd run something like this if you dont need the AM/rav cdr for certain raid fights

[dire badge]

[left perch]

not ban evading! I am a different person

[eternal sundial]

[oblique trail]

Ready to see the logs of it then Yenny when Fated rolls around because I wont be testing it

Bedge

[past pivot]

There is no reason to ever be in fury loot spec.

[dire badge]

I’ve changed how I feel in my heart so it’s not evading

[eternal sundial]

No way no reck proc

Also s1 cb incident

[peak lagoon]

where are you looking

[crisp prism]

please vote s2 or even s1 guys i rather skip then playing another annihilator ra build

[peak lagoon]

reck proc is there

[eternal sundial]

Left one is proc

[oblique trail]

It's not

You picked 4 seconds longer Reck

[eternal sundial]

Right is long reck

[dire badge]

whoopsy

[peak lagoon]

🤪

silly me

[oblique trail]

Yenny moment

[peak lagoon]

you know which i would pick anyways

[oblique trail]

Idk you're cooking something rn

And I think it smells pretty stank ass personally

[fair plaza]

I think they should make single minded fury the number 1 dps spec

[dense elbow]

No point voteing s2, it already lost, invest in s1 the underdog that will win the day!

[calm mantle]

Heroic pip or mythic rezans? I have no augury

[peak lagoon]

@oblique trail youd have the same turbo burst as you have current season

[clever path]

Legendary obsolete S4

[crisp prism]

na forums are trolling man

[peak lagoon]

but you'd actualyl have servicable cleave afterwards

[oblique trail]

What's so different to that compared to what we have now

[peak lagoon]

since cleaving CB's buffed rampages and the BT tierset actually works on AoE

[oblique trail]

You have no OF + CDR, you're removing AM so all your damage is still condensed into 1:30 windows

[peak lagoon]

instead of the fcking dogshit passive cleave that fury has atm

[oblique trail]

Yeah but you're trading 3/6x omega buffed BBs for 1 buffed BB that cleaves every once in a while

That doesn't do as much damage as the omega buffed BBs

[peak lagoon]

it cleaves on every single mob in the pack

[oblique trail]

up to 5 mobs

[clever path]

Imagine you all voting S3 tier for the fact of using Legendary but then in S4 a different Legendary drops or the axe is removed completely cause why go through the same hassle for the same weapon at just higher Ilvl, U have just doomed yourselves, clap clap clap

[peak lagoon]

and we had close to 60-80% uptime on cshb in aoe packs

[oblique trail]

We already have pretty high uptime of CSHB

Without S2 set

Purely because we prioritise BT as much as we do

[clever path]

Didn’t they say legendary is here to stay in season 4 ?

[peak lagoon]

yes and tell me

[neat gazelle]

my vault is so dog but i might take counterweight just cause I only have a 437 vial from last season

[peak lagoon]

how much dmg does cleaving bt do

[oblique trail]

In the last BRH I did

[peak lagoon]

its so shit

[warm crag]

do not the counterweight

[peak lagoon]

meanwhile season 2 BT cleave would actually hit like a truck

[south kayak]

Do not it

[eternal sundial]

Socket?

[past pivot]

Weapon?

[oblique trail]

And you have that one buffed BT every 20-30 seconds?

[peak lagoon]

bro is rampaging only 4-5 times per 20 - 30 seconds

monka

[clever path]

Season 3 is bad

[oblique trail]

You're not running AM so how are you expected to have near 100% uptime of Reck to perma rampage

[peak lagoon]

im telling you new RA with season 2 set has some hidden giga tech

[oblique trail]

Yeah yeah

[peak lagoon]

trust

[oblique trail]

Show me in Fated then

[peak lagoon]

i cant if S3 is going to win

[neat gazelle]

its an alt so def not socket

[peak lagoon]

its joever

[clever path]

Please

Vote season 2

[neat gazelle]

yea im thinking sword maybe

[clever path]

Else I’m going to ask my uncles friend brothers sister to delete your character from the game fr

If S3 wins you might aswell go outlaw if you plan to do M+

[sour frigate]

its joever

[brave cairn]

You can't tell me what to do

I'm voting S1

[eternal sundial]

W

[neat gazelle]

yea at a 33ilvl increase its only 1k increase

def not worth

[clever path]

Who would have thought that civil war would happen because of a tier set bonus

[sleek nexus]

why blizzard doesn't just let us have all 3 tiers is beyond me

[clever path]

Luckily for us we have sane people who make the right choice and vote season 2

[brave cairn]

wanting to sit in spear

I'm laughing at you rn

[clever path]

Tbf I agree with this guy

[modest condor]

it's also good on volcoross (which admittedly is kinda irrelevant but it's still singletarget). On fyrakk boss damage looks bad because we hold cds in p1 and use them on adds in p2. If anything the fact that we're not dead last on boss damage despite missing 3 sets of cooldowns on the boss shows how strong our st is

[nocturne dragon]

what about taking token? so in future you can socket ring

[unreal onyx]

AM is not fun

[dark elbow]

AM is fun

[unreal onyx]

AM is only fun with 100% uptime

and you get bent over by blizz if you don't have that

[clever path]

Lemme check my logs on it

You know what they said on Paladin discord ?

[fading sky]

take a socket save it bro not worth it

[clever path]

They don’t care what to vote

Just let it be whatever

[brave cairn]

Yea paladin discord is full of cucks

[clever path]

Let people pick their own tier set

[brave cairn]

Warriors fight tooth and nail

[clever path]

This

I agree , paladins are kinda sus

Warrior gyatt

[crisp prism]

none of the tier sets will effect your time inside the spear , pure st fights you will always sit inside the spear while aoe or cleave heavy fights you take roar. It's been like this since ravager / onslaught rework

its just amirdrassil currently is leaning towards roar more

[clever path]

Guys

We are doing it wrong

Look

[wild haven]

I think we should all take a moment to relax and discuss this like grown adults.

If you vote s3, you smell like poopie sticks

[frozen lake]

Why can't they make up some new bonuses

[clever path]

This raid with S2 tierset would pop off though

[crisp prism]

yeah

[dense elbow]

S1 smell good, s2 smell like feet, s3 smell like rottting strawberries

[brave cairn]

Unite against the common enemy

[oblique trail]

Why would it

Do tell me

[crisp prism]

i accept s1 or s2

[neat gazelle]

Incredibly based

[crisp prism]

not s3 tho

[nocturne dragon]

Too peace is weird right? hahaha

[covert void]

lol actually?

[clever path]

Exactly. Screw voting on warrior tier set. We need to vote on the smelliest tier set of DH, Rogue and Huntards

[clever path]

Ravager reck 30 secs ect ect pad pad pad pad on cleave fights

[covert void]

wait, you have to sacrifice your own vote i guess right or

[clever path]

That’s how we win meters

[covert void]

worth? 👀

[clever path]

Totally

[oblique trail]

The cleave moments that are just burst because of how fast they die? For sure you need ravager for that

[clever path]

I’m so doing it

[covert void]

happy with s2 or 3, i want 3, but 1 isn't winning.

Instead, use your vote to sabotage competitors.

love it

[frozen lake]

It dumb they can't make up some new bonuses and let us vote. That would be minimal possible effort

[clever path]

It's just better

[brave cairn]

Yep

[tacit crag]

Isn't minimal possible effort not inventing new bonuses?

[brave cairn]

I'll drop a doozy in the DH votes

[oblique trail]

Gnarlroot adds die instantly, Igira spears die instantly, Larodar adds die very fast if you have more than 1 person doing damage to them, Tindral vines die instantly/to bombs if you're on Mythic, Fyrakk souls is the only viable target really for Ravager

[frozen lake]

Even fated should be new bonuses and transmog

[clever path]

Do you have roar for every single time there is a slight pad?

[oblique trail]

Are you forgetting OF?

[clever path]

Or do you have OF everytime?

[tulip sentinel]

We are all on board for S2 transmog right?

[frozen lake]

S1

[olive wraith]

I like s1 tmog

[oblique trail]

You have OF for every add moment in the raid, apart from Igira if your CDR is unlucky

[peak lagoon]

from my perspective thats not because fury ST is good, but because fyrak is pretty assignment heavy and you put fury cds where you need to fill the tiny gap, every class is pretty heavily assigned on that fight, they shit harder on fyrak and they also shit harder on the big and small adds sadly.
like i would love to say warrior good but fury is getting its cds cucked not because they do good dps wise even without them but because they are the easiest ones you could miss without losing big relevant dmg on the boss and then ease up a hard section of the fight like the collusses and souls

[clever path]

S1 tmog S2 tier set bonus

[peak lagoon]

fcking essay writing over here

idk buff warrior

shouldve written trhat i guess

[clever path]

We won't even know these answers of if S2 or S3 is better in these circumstances on the fact we do not have S2 to test it unless you go into LFR or normal with old set so tbh who really knows

[oblique trail]

Wdym we wont have these answers

We're literally in the raid rn

[dark elbow]

S2 easy 95% uptime on recklessness

[oblique trail]

And looking at the time it takes to kill adds

Adds fall over

[clever path]

Yeah but can you use old 450 ilvl tier in mythic raid? no

[oblique trail]

Ravager isn't going to be magically better for it than OF is

[clever path]

So you cannot realistically compare

[past pivot]

Better to let them work on new expansion. That’s the idea behind fated. Be dumb to spend time and energy for new stuff then.

[olive wraith]

S2 is not cash money st

[clever path]

Bigger ilvl- better damage

Ravager with big ilvl

Huge dick dps

[oblique trail]

Look if you don't understand that OF is stronger on-demand burst than Ravager is idk what to tell you

[olive wraith]

Switch your spec to ravager rn

[oblique trail]

Adds die too quick in most cases for Ravager to be better than OF

[wild haven]

What's the point of the xmog vote tho? If you're a gamer you have them all already, right?

[olive wraith]

Maybe new colors?

Idk

[clever path]

Look if you can't comprehend you cannot compare S2 vs S3 in mythic Amadrassil then I dunno what to tell you

[oblique trail]

I'm not talking about the fucking set rn

[hollow ridge]

gg smolderon

[tulip sentinel]

S3 raid S2 m+ is what it boils down to I think

[oblique trail]

I'm talking about how the skills work

[peak lagoon]

adds that die so quick that its relevant for ravagers 9 second duration

arent that relevant to begin with

unless you want to look pretty on the meter

"they have to die"

[clever path]

I'm literally talking the set and i personally liked the set and would prefer to use it as I know it more than S3 cause I played more S2 than S3. I am speaking hypothetical so think of it as such

[oblique trail]

Literally do one clear of the raid and you'll see that any add moment in the raid dies instantly regardless of you pressing Ravager or OF, then you're cooked if you think that Ravager somehow will be better

[past pivot]

I don’t care as long as it’s not s3 tier bonus. S2 was good in Aoe and I was aug-ing it up in s1 so that would feel new.
Just so long as the transmog is s2. The other sets are just bad.

[peak lagoon]

when they nerfed tindrals root hp

[tulip sentinel]

We should just vote on what makes fated super blooms more fun!!!

[clever path]

Ravager

[clever path]

But you literally cannot compare both at the same time cause 486 vs 450 ilvl so who actually knows what is better, thankyou

[subtle lagoon]

We should all be given a vote on deleting aug or not

[peak lagoon]

thats pretty based

[oblique trail]

But I cba with you, I'm not talking about the gear still you idiot

[steep fable]

Doesn't Odyn's instant/guaranteed damage make it better? I am confused how ravager would be better, ever

[oblique trail]

I'm talking about the fights

And how your skills work

Ravager is not instant on-demand burst like OF is

[frozen lake]

There's no way the sets are the limiting factor though, I understand the need to work on expansion but color swap the sets or add a new glow or SOMETHING

[clever path]

You cannot comprehend that you cannot compare 486 vs 450 ilvl, Idiot

[peak lagoon]

@oblique trail since you have 5% more haste now you cant compare 🤓

[oblique trail]

The current raids adds just die instantly

[peak lagoon]

L bozo

[frozen lake]

We know they can churn out cosmetics

[shell jackal]

any S3 setbonus, S2 appearance enjoyers

[frozen field]

Yes

[oblique trail]

You are the kind of person I vote S3 just to spite

[lunar basin]

Not wanting s2 tier set is a crime

[shut pivot]

that guy is based

[tulip sentinel]

Right here

[clever path]

Yes

[robust widget]

not siding with anyone here, i think what he means is that in s4 you arent going in with 20 ilvl over what the bosses drop, aka you dont overgear them = adds live longer

[peak lagoon]

i wish more people liked season one tier

[shell jackal]

i can see we are divisive on this discussion. my bad. didn't wanna start drama.

[narrow narwhal]

I like season 1 tier

[frozen lake]

I'm in for S1

[oblique trail]

Ok but if you're max ilvl in Fated compared to max ilvl in S3 it's literally the same

[wild haven]

Hope it's s2, can't wait to see tanks pulling 15 mobs away from ravager again

[peak lagoon]

season one tier was comfy asf

[clever path]

Season two or season one

[peak lagoon]

it was just undertuned

[oblique trail]

That doesn't change anything

[robust widget]

yeah

[narrow narwhal]

Pressing execute is fun but it was a noodle

[clever path]

Season 3 should burn

[oblique trail]

It's gonna be the same health equivalent

So the adds are gonna die equally as fast

[crisp prism]

they said they are gonna balance tier sets

[oblique trail]

Unless there are going to be mechanics specifically making adds live longer through Fated affixes

[peak lagoon]

i feel like season3 set makes me loose braincells more than usually playing warrior

[crisp prism]

so s1 is strong option if s2 wont win

[clever path]

You are just trying to argue against a hypothetical thing. Who actually knows what is better? can we test? no we can not at all, so who actually knows, So stop being fast to namecall cause your argument is invalid and you are not getting your own way thankyou

[quick hull]

is signet still the one to get? have aug and rezans current

[oblique trail]

xd

[peak lagoon]

bro it aint that deep

[crisp bronze]

Casually asking everyone vote for Tier 2 set bonus

[peak lagoon]

all banebro is saying if adds die quicker than 6 seconds than OF > ravager

🤪

[sinful spoke]

yes

replace rezans with it

[modest condor]

who cares about adds in raid, i want to do damage in m+ outside of my 1.5min cds

[clever path]

So much this

Yeah cool adds die fast we know, Still can't just assume S3 set is better than S2 when we can't physically compare it. That's the point

[peak lagoon]

i wish season one fury and season 3 arms would win

[wild haven]

100%

[clever path]

Raid is for babies anyway

[gilded pawn]

fated is an m+ season anyways

[peak lagoon]

sudden deaths for days

[gilded pawn]

actually yeah

lets go the midground

lets vote S1

[clever path]

All I said was I think it would pop off, THINK, not know, Didn't make a statement that it did or did not

[peak lagoon]

i already voted

[wild haven]

You guys are arguing over adds that last 1.5 seconds and do literally nothing

[eternal sundial]

You can sim it right now

Pepega

[past pivot]

Signet for ST. Crab for MT

[rigid stirrup]

Decisions

[oblique trail]

If S2 wins then go knock yourself out having Ravager still run 4 seconds after Igira spears die 👍

[robust widget]

you can change votes

[crisp bronze]

S2 fury has been my favorite iteration no cap

[frozen field]

Why fury season 1?

[open arrow]

Day 1 of season 1 tier and appearance and 600% aura buff and exe stacks to 99 and exe first and last 20% of hp

[clever path]

Trinket

[peak lagoon]

because sudden deaths in M+ were fun

[clever path]

No decision

[gilded pawn]

nah

season 2 arms

[clever path]

You need to read more and assume less thankyou

[gilded pawn]

actually yeah S1 fury S3 arms would be funny

[peak lagoon]

also seeing execute on top of the breakdown in M+ was fun

[olive wraith]

We don’t know how they plan to do this though

[crude ridge]

So I finally got Smoldy trinket and just fooling around on the testing dummy I cannot get the trinket past 1 stack.

[gilded pawn]

they have the same tier set

[oblique trail]

And you need to actually think about how the raid works and how your skills work

[peak lagoon]

SEASON 1 fury and SEASON 3 arms and call it the season of sudden death

😠

[oblique trail]

And realise that one is just better than the other

[clever path]

Not everything is about raid bro

[crisp prism]

yea thats why i'm currently voting s2 , easier to balance then wet noodle execute

[oblique trail]

His initial statement was

[clever path]

Agree to disagree and move on, Stop arguing, Namecalling like a child

[late venture]

What is the criteria for using slam? If you dont have enough rage for Rampage and bloodthirst is on cooldown and you have no execute proc, in that moment do you press slam, or do you just autoattack until bloodthirst comes back

Basically is there a downside to pressing slam in the above scenario?

[modest condor]

based take

[lunar basin]

Here is my take on current tier set.

Fury is a red class so if I have to click slam which is a purple button I am angry it’s simple.

[peak lagoon]

[gilded pawn]

no downside

[tacit crag]

My sim says the green flight neck, but dunno if I should aim for bis setup ring instead.

[olive wraith]

So you don’t like ww?

[inland flame]

but our best talent is purple

[clever path]

[late venture]

Thanks

[frosty karma]

[dire badge]

[peak lagoon]

s3 aka the lobotomy tierset

[unreal onyx]

S3 is the best out of the 3

[rigid stirrup]

I already have on max hero track and sim said to grab the belt

[unreal onyx]

the least bad that is

[peak lagoon]

sorry sir but your opinion is different from mine

hence its bad

[rigid stirrup]

if I wasn't progging I'd take the trinket just for keys

[peak lagoon]

[crisp bronze]

Damn alot more people voted since I did this morning cause s3 was winning by a significant margin earleir

[robust widget]

s2 and s3 are fun so be a chad and be happy if either wins 😎

[fickle bluff]

eu vote

[unreal onyx]

fuck AM

I said it

[clever path]

For raid not M+

[pliant summit]

GUYS SWURLY WE VOTE FOR S2???????

[olive wraith]

Objectively s3 is performing the best

[fickle bluff]

annihilator fucking sucks

[peak lagoon]

@unreal onyx i hope AM fucks you 😠 ☝️

[fickle bluff]

hate it

[unreal onyx]

anything is better than AM

[inland flame]

They're rebalancing sets for S4

[peak lagoon]

my main problem is with the current tier is that without WF its actually kind of engaging but the dry spells feel horrible

[olive wraith]

What are they doing

[peak lagoon]

but with WF its fcking braindead

[frosty karma]

past or current performance of X tier plays no role because apparently they want to tune it

[nocturne dragon]

That is for EU I think, for NA, S3 is quite far ahead

[ember moat]

There are some incredible takes from people here, in what world is S3 not the play

[crisp bronze]

Someone point me to sims at equal ilvls that s3 outperforms s2

[olive wraith]

Elaborate?

[frozen field]

Did yall just forget the fury s1 was so bad that you would take non-tier pieces of higher ilvl over it?

[stark ginkgo]

fellas is there a pin i missed or something, do I just need to kill h fyrakk each week or is it all difficulties etc?

[inland flame]

They haven't said specifically but in the poll posts they say they'll rebalance them so that any of the sets would end up performing the same

[unreal onyx]

tuning can't fix the issue with AM

[frozen field]

Some of the most cooked takes in here

[clever path]

I also see in m+ it requires you to have the legendary

[oblique trail]

Kill on highest difficulty

That's it

[inland flame]

Same-ish

[frosty karma]

and then they buffed the tier and you actually used it

[stark ginkgo]

ez ty thought so

[peak lagoon]

@frozen field it was bad numerically wise, they buffed it later on in the season going from 0.5% st to 6% ST

😎

but it was fun

[pliant summit]

bruh i just hate pressing slam and only rampage and bloodbath T_T

[olive wraith]

So trust in the company that hasn’t given fury buffs

[peak lagoon]

and im voting for fun set

[shut pivot]

i believe both s3 and s2 tier set is good but i prefer the playstyle of s2

[frosty karma]

I am also a sudden death enjoyer

[dark elbow]

My man

[pliant summit]

session 2 oo id press like rampage 500 times it was so goooooooooooooooood

[unreal onyx]

S2 is fine for m+

[slim coral]

Fat ring

holy

[maiden ingot]

[pliant summit]

FAT ring

[frosty karma]

And i would play arms if it wasnt literally bottom 3 dps specs for this raid

[shut pivot]

also can we cry to blizz to make SMF viable ?

[peak lagoon]

i think its time to stage a coup, anyone who disagrees with the season of sudden death

[unreal onyx]

but gl keeping your CDs aligned for the right time if you have 1 mechanic you have to move out from the boss in raid

[peak lagoon]

should be banned

[slim coral]

I can upgrade the ring to 489 too

lets goo

[crisp bronze]

Let me spam rampage with 100% enrage uptime and 30-40s reck/ravg

[dark elbow]

[frosty karma]

whats different to s3? you cant press BT on cd

[molten relic]

socket gaming smh

[eternal sundial]

Imagine 1 year of s3

If u could just not

[pliant summit]

this guy gets it

[inland flame]

I'm just telling you what they said m8 at the very least its going to be better than if they just shipped them as-is

[peak lagoon]

@crisp bronze dont forget way higher substats

[olive wraith]

S2 and s3 enrage uptime is the same

[pliant summit]

S2 for the Win guys trust

[unreal onyx]

what does that have to do with BT, I am talking about the issue with AM

[peak lagoon]

you're gonna have a lot more crit/verse in S4 than S2

[true arch]

yezzir

[peak lagoon]

which means faster tierset loops

[unreal onyx]

5s downtime = less ramp = misaligned CDs

[olive wraith]

So if they buff s3 it’s still better than s2? Like you can say that about any set

[pliant summit]

i dont wanna press no slam bs atleast last teir gave us new buttons and good abilities

[frosty karma]

you are describing CDR loss due to downtime, s3 is the same, youre getting less OF CDR if you cant attack

[molten relic]

huh

raging blow /crushing blow?

new button?

[inland flame]

They want people to pick by the playstyle, so they would try to make our throughput about even no matter which set we choose

[frosty karma]

i wish AM would be triggered by something that has a CD

like pressing BT on CD for 2 seconds each cast

[marble scarab]

Hey newbie here. wondering if I can put a socket on crafted bracer? If I can should I do allied wristguards or primal?

[pliant summit]

Yeah you have like dick all buttons this session

[frosty karma]

similar to blade dance on havoc

[molten relic]

you can

[unreal onyx]

you can't consistently have CDR on OF, since it requires you to crit

[olive wraith]

And you honestly believe whichever tier we pick it’ll be the best for the entire season?

[frozen field]

Allied wrist

[sudden mango]

I only recently swapped to fury in season 3, so I never played the season 1 or 2 tiersets. Give me your best elevator pitches for me to vote S1 or S2

[marble scarab]

I'm just strapped for the GV today

Awesome thx

[unreal onyx]

so it's still rng

[marble scarab]

❤️

[frozen field]

I'll vote for s3 fury since it's the best performing and most fun(to me)

[pliant summit]

S2 was aswesome you always had something to do no down time and great in both ST in AOE

[valid charm]

@frosty karma readifcute

[robust widget]

aint no way s2 was great in ST

[olive wraith]

S3 is awesome. Big numbers no downtime

[sudden mango]

I dont feel I have downtime now, but I really only am pressing 2 buttons most of the time

[frosty karma]

abandon this class its doomed

[crisp prism]

respec into s2 build and go to target dummy and check how fluid rotation is. You dont need a pitch

[clever path]

Do you m+

[stuck bison]

it was great at start but blizz forget to buff fury single target like in s1

[olive wraith]

Yes

[crisp prism]

then you want s2

lol

[crisp bronze]

S2 let's you reck/ravg 2x during lust window in my experience otherwise it's avgs 30-40s cds after cdr

[remote tulip]

hell yea i got augury im full bis now! 😄

[frozen field]

I'll just stick with Archimtiros' opinion where if you have downtime in s3 you're just playing it wrong

[unreal onyx]

sure was great in ST

[valid charm]

just play hunter 👴

[potent sinew]

Do we even have a class developer right now? I don’t think there has been a single change is 2 months to any spec.

[robust widget]

yeah i figured, was replying to the guy saying it was great in both ST and AoE

[clever path]

Tbf I've not played much of Fury this season

[crisp prism]

i dont think we have a class developer since shadowlands

[peak lagoon]

bro S2 tierset would be so goated since wed have so much more base crit because season 4 substats

wed be at like idk 30-40% crit easily

[pliant summit]

this guy gets it

[peak lagoon]

and then with high reck uptime wed only need like 4 stacks

[crisp bronze]

Last fury change I remember was nerfing s1 tier into the ground cause it was making us perform better than other classes

[peak lagoon]

[olive wraith]

S3 feels the most fun for me. Has the best performance. And I really don’t wanna play am/rav 3 out of 4 season

[unreal onyx]

objectively fury is performing the best in ST with S3 set

[sudden mango]

I may have to try this!

[peak lagoon]

@unreal onyx

NO WAY

icant

S2 start

fury was fcking slapping the ST meter untill nelth / sark

[clever path]

S3 ST S2 AOE

[peak lagoon]

were execute on nelth was important

and sark had really good funnel

[frozen field]

S2 start

Lmao

[olive wraith]

Guess what

[pliant summit]

"erm S3 has the best dps" bruh i just wanna have fun S2 was the best dont even lie

[peak lagoon]

S2 fury at the start was disgusting

[olive wraith]

S3 has better execute phase than s2

[crisp prism]

currently we are popping 1.5 min into a pack then for second pack we got nothing interesting happening while s2 you have cds every pack . Every 40 sec ish is full cd window

[jolly mist]

please no more s2 set

[stuck bison]

so true we was upper mid for st then they buffed every other spec except fury

[jolly mist]

i literally got carpal tunnel during prog

[dark elbow]

Same

fcking amazing

[gilded pawn]

tape down rp

rb

[crisp prism]

i rather quit then play another annihilator ra build

[peak lagoon]

fury fell off in S2 (didnt get buffed, arms got buffed)

for raid

[olive wraith]

What killed fury s2 was aug

[gilded pawn]

fury didnt scale with prog

[sage depot]

no leggo drop 😐

[odd star]

season 2ers so annoying im voting season 3 out of spite

[pliant summit]

yall i dont wanna press 2 buttons all the time new set is so boring gimmie 2 buttons

[frosty karma]

hoping that arms will be better for fated else im playing something else 🤣 or just play arms because theres no rankjing to get reclearing already figuredf out raids for the 15th time

[olive wraith]

Dude s2 was 2 buttons

[clever path]

Vote S1 and make everyone happy

[olive wraith]

Like what

[dark elbow]

Based

[pliant summit]

yeah but 2 fun buttons

[jolly mist]

s1 arms so pog

[crisp prism]

s2 pressed those 2 buttons more often tho lmao

[jolly mist]

gimmie

[olive wraith]

Raging blow=bt

[robust widget]

imagine playing arms

🤢

[olive wraith]

How is it any different

[frosty karma]

RB hits like a wet noodle too, but at least its triggering a main and offhand hit, unlike BT, when you press it and see a 19k non crit

[olive wraith]

Bt actually has a heal and a bleed proc though

[clever path]

BT Proc was good

[pliant summit]

yeah you could still get that in s2 set tho

[robust widget]

tbf you rarely even hit bt, most of the time its a bb

[frosty karma]

make that 35k then

[robust widget]

📈

[crisp prism]

more like you wait for rage regen to hit that bb

[dire badge]

wrong he said objectively nincompoop

[robust widget]

idk what yall doing but the occasional BT i get but "wait for rage regen" no way

[pliant summit]

guys im telling you ive been sent from the future to tell yall that S2 is the best you should pick it i beg

[unreal onyx]

S3 is the best tier set this xpac

[storm rune]

BT is way too low in your priorities

[red peak]

Bloodbath puts in some serious work though. I mean I usually parse 3-40 as I'm shit but it's consistently the number one part of my Do

[frosty karma]

blood bath not really that much more impressive, 25k hit vs 17k

[clever path]

Lolxd L take

[stuck bison]

there is no hope here. enjoy boring af annilator and no damage in m+ . i am gonna s1 arms for fated xD

[pliant summit]

real

[unreal onyx]

is the leaf still talking ?

[frozen field]

Agreed

[olive wraith]

How is anni any more boring lol

[crisp prism]

i'm just gonna skip fated lol if s3 wins

[olive wraith]

I stull@don’t understand

[pliant summit]

the leaf 💀 bro is on reddit to much

[crisp prism]

auto attack

[dire badge]

[dusk jackal]

Happy Vault Day Warriors!

[inland flame]

While all of the S2 and S3 frogs are going crazy, I think its the duty of us vibin' folks to vote S1.

[pliant summit]

real

[frosty karma]

if annihilator replaced bloodthirst it would probably be a lot stronger

[clever path]

I don't even have a Reddit account, L insult

[olive wraith]

Do you not auto attack in s2?

Mans is playing a diff game

[crisp prism]

auto attack replacing your filler idk how you comparing those

[pliant summit]

nah you dont take annihilator

[olive wraith]

We have filler

[pliant summit]

well not as much atleast

[outer anchor]

probably been asked a bunch, but is it worth to do LFR for the bad luck protection item before doing heroic?

[olive wraith]

Right now lol

[unreal onyx]

#fury message

[clever path]

SLAM

[crisp prism]

you have a filler that doesnt feel good to press

[inland flame]

Nope

[olive wraith]

No not for blp

[covert void]

I just cba hearing the cha'ching noise again from the WA from season 2 for a full season again. 👀

[stoic star]

Why did someone in here say that doing a full clear of heroic/normal before killing Fyrakk doesn't make a difference on Legendary

[pliant summit]

yall i get that S3 is good dps but trust me S2 was the most engaged warrior in awhile

[crisp prism]

idk how you all simping for budget tbc arms warrior on s3 tier set

[clever path]

Change it to glass sound

[dusk jackal]

Do I take a 489 Whitefin Axe over a 483 Augury of the primal flame?

[unreal onyx]

bc they don't know what they're talking about

[crisp prism]

its most boring fury version i ever played including classic swing timers

[dusk jackal]

Sims like the axe better.

[pliant summit]

id take Aug tbh

[covert void]

how was it more engaged? cocnsidering s3 requires you to split abilities more, burst abilities etc. and more thought to do it properly.

[frosty karma]

Very Rare items have a significantly lower chance to appear in vault than dropping on actual boss kill, trinket for sure

[stoic star]

Do I need to full clear normal + heroic or only heroic?

[unreal onyx]

spamming RB and ramp until I hear a WA truly is the most fun I ever had

[sinful spoke]

normal doesnt matter

heroic yes

full clear it

[olive wraith]

Clear on highest difficulty

[unreal onyx]

kill on heroic and you're good

[robust widget]

KA-CHING!

[unreal onyx]

clear if you want lessers for .000000000000001% more

[inland flame]

Heroic and mythic give lesser embers so there's a point to full-clearing

But the Fyrakk kills it doesn't matter, just the highest

[clever path]

You gotta full clear to get it or just fyrakk?

[nocturne dragon]

heroic is a bit hard, so many party forming gatekeep with AOTC but I don't have that yet sadly

[pliant summit]

just trust me dude i hate Annihilator with every fiber in my being its like pallys taking that auto attack one

[olive wraith]

It’s fine to not like the s3 playstyle

[pliant summit]

taking auto attack increases suck

[clever path]

Heroic fyrakk groups half leave on 1 wipe then it's just rinse and repeat of the same thing

[olive wraith]

But to say it’s bad is wrong

[nova atlas]

bro if this was wrath most of us wouldve got shadowmourne by now wtf is this legendary grind

[inland flame]

idk about the auto thing scaling a lot harder with WF is kinda nice when you have it

[olive wraith]

“I dislike passive damage increase”

[earnest galleon]

the tencent method, keeps u subbed while u pull the slot machine for 3 months

[golden hare]

chat is this real

[pliant summit]

its not bad its got good dps my passes in raid are high but its just not fin

[unreal onyx]

annihalator is literally whatever, i don't get why people hate it so much

[eternal sundial]

The 4th person

[unreal onyx]

you don't even lose a button for it

[crisp prism]

??? what

[unreal onyx]

replace rb with slam

ez

[clever path]

Annihalator is fine if you pvp then you use it anyway

[crisp prism]

yes and we went from 190 apm to 90 apm

not losing button btw

[pliant summit]

YOU WANNA PRESS SLAM???????????

[olive wraith]

We didn’t lose apm

[crisp prism]

we have nothing to press lmao

[unreal onyx]

then you play wrong

[crisp prism]

no i dont

[dire badge]

#pvp get out of my pve channel ban evaders

[oblique trail]

Yes because Fury was for sure 190 APM before

[frozen field]

You do lmao

[clever path]

WW and SLAM is filler

[chrome plover]

190 apm

[frosty karma]

hack and slash log baiters

[unreal onyx]

apm was hyper inflated with HnS

[sleek nexus]

RB is just Slam with a different icon

[olive wraith]

If you’re gonna hate on s3 at least be correct

[nocturne dragon]

Let’s go 50% haste build

[crisp prism]

i'm correct and i'm hating it

[mild thunder]

Quick rotational/priority question:
If we have Furious Bloodthirst, and run out of filler GCDs to Rampage back into Bloodbath, do we just burn the charge on Bloodthirst, or hold for more fillers/Annihilator AAs for rage? I've been holding, and wondered if that was optimal or not.

[oblique trail]

If you had 190 APM you'd have to use abilities 3 times a second

[olive wraith]

You don’t lose apm

[crisp prism]

i dont enjoy rotation whirlwind slam

and auto attack

[chrome plover]

much more than 50% haste to get 190

[pliant summit]

RB IS FUN TO PRESS THO there aint no way yall play warrior and say you like to press slam

[crisp prism]

you lose a lot of apm

you have nothing

outside of reck window

[oblique trail]

Wdym

[chrome plover]

you do not lose any apm

[cold cape]

Hey sorry to bother you guys but I’m still trying to understand how to use reck properly. Do I want to use it to maximize some abilities or burst such as Odyns Fury for the crit and rage regen? Would I use rampage or odyns fury after reck first? And is there an aim or target to use so many bloodbaths under a reck window? For example right now I would think I use reck, rampage for enrage, odyns fury, then bloodbath? I have trouble beating Ret Paladins in M+ keys and I’m sure my burst has something to do with it

[crisp prism]

only fluid during reck

[oblique trail]

You have nothing if you don't press your buttons right

[unreal onyx]

I stand corrected you play wrong

[olive wraith]

You literally don’t lose apm

[clever path]

I prefer pressing BT proc over Slam filler

[robust widget]

i ahve to press slam to rarely it doesnt bother me when i have to

[covert void]

You notice how there's still no actual argument for why S3 is bad, just 'trust me' or 'i hate it' etc.

[cunning rune]

What if we as the warrior community just went into the blizzard office and made our own tierset? Stop fighting and make a change people.

[pliant summit]

S2 YOU NEVER EVEN PUT IT ON YOUR BARS

[crisp prism]

i said this multiple times , non impactfull burst vs proper sustain

[pliant summit]

IT WAS HEVAN

[olive wraith]

Okay?

[frosty karma]

my arguement for not wanting s3 tier is you do more damage outside of CD's because RB does more damage than BT, Slam and whirlwind

thats not trust me bro or i hate it

[covert void]

Yet we're doing pretty much the same if not more damage than previous seasons? so how is it a reason to dislike it, if its even true, which I don't think it is.

[cunning rune]

I like playing anger 🤬 management

[frosty karma]

on 1 target it might be equal, but annihilator doesnt cleave

[tardy lark]

anni blows

[frozen field]

S3 has good burst

[olive wraith]

We have way more st this season

[pliant summit]

ok im convinced that people who dont mind pressing slam dont play warrior theres no way

[oblique trail]

There aren't specific conditions to any abilities during Recklessness. If you get a proc mid fight you'll do your priority as usual. As for how you'd go about using your CDs is different based on when in the fight it is. For example the opener would look like
Reck + Charge -> Rampage -> OF -> Roar/Spear BB -> Ramp -> Avatar -> BB -> Ramp and so on. Fit in WW's during Charge and when needed if AoE.
Mid fight you'd just Reck -> Avatar -> Roar/Spear if you don't have OF ready.

[crisp prism]

not really , you will always have nothing for every 2nd pack waiting for that 4 sec reck proc and tickling odyns fury making you at least do tank damage

[unreal onyx]

S3 feels better than S2 in any content imo

[pliant summit]

im sorry yall much love but auto attack increase and slam is not the vibe 😢

[crisp prism]

not like pull defining like bfa fire which is the problem

[covert void]

That's not true. I tend to have an OF up, in the pack between a full burst one. And it does decent damage for me.

[crisp prism]

outside of cd we have nothing

[crisp prism]

of tickles

[stuck bison]

not for m+ if you are nor trolling

[olive wraith]

I don’t like slam

I like of and boosted bt

[sleek nexus]

pressing slam is the same as pressing RB meaning s3 set is better bcz in s2 you spammed RB

[covert void]

I mean, that's just false.

[frozen field]

We're not talking about bfa. We're talking about DF.

[covert void]

Your point was we have nothing, we do, we have OF, which outside of main burst is fine.

[robust widget]

wrong actually, the ww spam in old raids and dungeons is nice and easy xdd

[pliant summit]

ITS NOT THE SAME NAAAAAH YALL SOMEONE HELP

[crisp prism]

not really , check logs and top players at best outside of your cds you doing vengeance damage with of only

[frosty karma]

RB doesnt require 2 points in crushing blows class tree

[clever path]

Buff Rally

[covert void]

I'm not one of these plebs that constantly compares my class to the s tier spec. Bit silly really.

[crisp prism]

yes we are and i am saying why our 1.5 min is ineffective

[pliant summit]

S2 had a boosted bludthirst anyway you just didint have OF

[unreal onyx]

one boosted BT every 6 ramps

[stuck bison]

guys how about we fix this this way: everyone log in to game and we split s2 vs s3 teams and do team death match. winnig side will be more true and more based

[pliant summit]

ill admit i think OF is pretty fin but if losing that mean getting S2 back im sorry but i just cant

[olive wraith]

This boosted bt hits harder

[unreal onyx]

• you have 3

[olive wraith]

Ye

[blissful pendant]

Does someone have a easy list of all bonuses and tmogs?

[frozen field]

We weren't though. And bringing an old expac into a discussion about when fury felt good in DF Is rrelevant. Otherwise we can just wax nostalgic about how fury felt during Nighthold.

[frosty karma]

you have 5 with s2 set in aoe

[sleek nexus]

you can't reason with him...

[frosty karma]

[crisp prism]

sorry but i dont enjoy having no meaningfull buttons to press every 2nd pack

[errant vessel]

Do you want to get annihilated every single second of uptime lost or would you rather be able to get mechanics and still get a good parse even though you had to do mechanics?

[covert void]

It's hard to get onboard with subpar arguments for why s3 is bad, when this season has been a breeze. Infact, the easiest of any I've done.

[frozen field]

Play better then

[covert void]

Get better at the spec then.

[crisp prism]

i rather get wrist cramps then s3 tier set

[pliant summit]

i know it might hit harder but the rest of the build is doodoo asscheeks to play 😭

[olive wraith]

I had to google “season 2 tier sets” and a wowhesd post pops up with all the sets

[crisp prism]

get better lmao

[errant vessel]

that's not what I asked xd

[crisp prism]

tell that to every other warriors then

[blissful pendant]

Ty

[crisp prism]

cuz its reality

logs

performance

datas

[clever path]

no?

you spam rb more

[olive wraith]

You’re def playing wrong though

[clever path]

and rb is better

Based

it feels saucier too

[covert void]

Saying OF is meaningless is again, an overexaggeration. And if you're running out of things to press, you're likely doing the spec unoptimally (totally a word).

[pliant summit]

SOME REAL SHIT

[unreal onyx]

propably wrote that yourself

[crisp prism]

neither my mythic logs compared to top parsers or dungeon performance saying you are correct

[frozen field]

Source: I wrote it

[stuck bison]

very true and based

[unreal onyx]

you literally say you have nothing to press

[clever path]

Because I play warlock

[unreal onyx]

that's wrong

[frozen field]

Lmao

[proper veldt]

nt*

[umbral ingot]

S2 set was peak tbh

[errant vessel]

peak rng yes

[pliant summit]

THIS GUYS GETS IT

[olive wraith]

That argument goes the other way. We played am/rav the first two season

[crisp prism]

then what do you press after odyns fury when you didnt get enough rage or lucky reck proc ? slam and ww is on cd also

this happens

waaaay too often

[olive wraith]

If you’re hitting dead gcd that often you’re doing something wrong

[unreal onyx]

never had that happen

[clever path]

I didn't play Fury season 1 so I did not

[crisp prism]

everyone hitting dead gcd couple of times every fight

[robust widget]

i wouldnt say it happens often, it can happen i think rarely but if it happens often somethings wrong

[pliant summit]

Yall trust we'll do crazy dmg with s2 anyway AND its more fun to play

[sleek nexus]

this never happens when fuck you playing -10% haste=?

[clever path]

guys... we have to vote season 2

[olive wraith]

You can’t exclude that fact though just because you didn’t play

[clever path]

I am not excluding the fact?

[pliant summit]

also the post makes a good point i dont wanna play the same tier for a whole nother session

[umbral ingot]

where do people vote

[clever path]

When did i say anything like that

[umbral ingot]

forums?

[crisp prism]

20 to 25 as i should

[unreal onyx]

isn't that the same as S1/S2

[errant vessel]

the same would happen when you don't hit RB resets except you'd just spam WW

[olive wraith]

“I didn’t play season 1 so I did not” just because you didn’t play it doesn’t mean it isn’t true

[errant vessel]

which isn't a lot more engaging

[crisp prism]

thats why s1 is more fluid then s2

[restive peak]

At fyrakk bois

[pliant summit]

no cus there diff sessions???

[restive peak]

Send me your love

[crisp prism]

i'm ok with s1 tier also

[covert void]

This I do understand, to be fair. Is why they should've given us the personal opton to choose.

[pliant summit]

goodluck big dog

[restive peak]

❤️

[covert void]

Imagine trusting blizzard to correctly balance warrior. Fuck that.

[covert blaze]

that would be awful

[dire badge]

[umbral ingot]

gl gl gamer

[radiant shore]

Hey there - any1 who is an expert on sims can tell me how I sim consumables for warrior? I have a script for my mage for advanced sims, but it seems to fk up when I use on my warr and tells me all consumables are dps decreases 😦

[covert void]

Why? it's the final season, revisiting things.

[umbral ingot]

should be in the bag if the guild progged thru tindral

[clever path]

War Within will be for the warriors

[robust widget]

[pliant summit]

yall you have to admit that playing the same shit all up until the new expac comes out is gonna be boring

[clever path]

YES

YES

S TIER BABY

HERE WE GO

It has to be

[robust widget]

S tier in the copium intake yes

[clever path]

D;

[olive wraith]

Dude. Am/rav was first two season. It’s the same thing if we repeated s3

[unreal onyx]

SL was also basically one build/rotation

[clever path]

Fury will be S tier in war within if there is no dispell affixes

Only people chose to play ravager in season 1

[umbral ingot]

RA was in s1 and s3

[clever path]

it wasnt mandated by the tier

[umbral ingot]

[covert void]

I don't mind doing this build for another season, I guess getting to use it in other raids etc. freshens it up somewhat but yeah, I can understand why some wouldn't want to.

[cunning rune]

We play mountain thane and everytime we oress thunderclap the party gets 5% vers and a shield equal to 15% of the damage done by it

[modest condor]

remember when we had a patch with fury in the name and fury wasnt S tier

[unreal onyx]

RA was early early S1

[pliant summit]

yeah BUT THEY WERE TWO DIFF SETS well literly be playing the EXACT same armour and tier and stats as right now 6 months from now

[crisp prism]

ravager build got buffed

[unreal onyx]

but dropped

[crisp prism]

during s1

mid season

onslaught / ravager

[stuck bison]

spitting truth

[unreal onyx]

the only time I played RA in S1 was on dathea

[frozen field]

Good if it performs the best

[clever path]

Because the owner of Blizzard rerolled from warrior to a different spec so now he made warrior bad

[unreal onyx]

AMOS has been played in S1 and S2

[rigid stirrup]

are peolpe still pulling up logs from the wow forum posters

I want a good laugh rn

[modest condor]

you didnt play before 10.0.5?

[pliant summit]

S2 will peform the best trust me Mr blizzard warrior is my dad

[unreal onyx]

I did but I was bad

[modest condor]

understandable

[slim coral]

how long does it take your character to start showing up again after a faction change

like on wowlogs and stuff

[acoustic furnace]

quick question about our opener with spear. Is it Wreck-Charge-Rampage-OF-Spear-BB-Ava or is it Wreck-Charge-Rampage-Spear-OF-Ava-BB-etc

[clever path]

YOu have to do it manually on the website or it can take a week or two

[restive peak]

I quit S1 cuz RL got in the way

[clever path]

you know though, lets be honest here with each other

atleast we have a discussion here, unlike some other class discords which are lame and quiet

[slim coral]

oh really?

how

[restive peak]

But I did not enjoy where we were sitting, I was like 4 bosses in when I left

[clever path]

Give me a sec to load the website

[modest condor]

1st one, also you probably wanna delay ava by 1 or 2 more gcds

[clever path]

Add missing characters to the new character but log a fight with the character first, Settings, Also look for update battlenet profile or something like that to update your characters

[red leaf]

The War(rior) within

[rigid stirrup]

Slayer tree will save us

[rigid stirrup]

I hope we get a choice node of death by the sword or enraged regen

[modest condor]

we're not and 99% of the time you would play ER anyway

[acoustic furnace]

Alright thanks. Just didn't know if it would be better to spear before OF to buff OF in case it crits.

[iron portal]

[clever path]

@slim coral I'm not sure if it's strictly a faction change you do this but I had to on name change server transfer ect, Does not hurt to check to make sure otherwise it will take a while

[modest condor]

it's better to always buff spear than to sometimes buff OF

[clever path]

leech easy

Leech pog

[vale reef]

i already have avoidance legs

[clever path]

neck is farmable

[vale reef]

plus 486 crafted belt, greatbelt is better

[clever path]

dht/brh necks

[acoustic furnace]

I'm in avoidance gang here. Damage prevented is better than damage healed.

[vale reef]

currently have 483 brh neck

[mellow swan]

Does bad luck protection like the lessers count for the current week, or are they applied to the next week? Or do we not know

[modest condor]

we dont know

[acoustic furnace]

Nobody knows anything about how BLP works

[mellow swan]

Sadge thx

[modest condor]

also hi brent

[mellow swan]

hi there

[wild mural]

@modest condor boss deadge?

[modest condor]

yes

[wild mural]

[modest condor]

we killed it about an hour in last night

[iron portal]

Life happy?

[modest condor]

right before i pinged you

[wild mural]

lez goooo

[clever path]

U killed Tindral?

Or Fyrakk

[wild mural]

[wild mural]

smoldy

[clever path]

Ah poggers gz @modest condor

[quiet scaffold]

ppl can vote with all their characters....what the actual..

[modest condor]

yeah now we're in tindral prison

[mellow bloom]

if you dont vote s2, i will die in my sleep tonight

[clever path]

time to sent my 30 char army

[modest condor]

hoping for some big nerfs before we start p2

[restive peak]

Sigh

[fiery jetty]

Really hate this 😦

[restive peak]

Another week

[stuck bison]

is this na ?

[fiery jetty]

this is US

[errant vessel]

that's weird

[tropic atlas]

US Trolling m+

[clever path]

Based

[sudden tusk]

why does the vualt keep giving me rings man

[fiery jetty]

😦

[dire badge]

next week

[clever path]

Prot warrior season 4 (yay)

[wild mural]

based

[sudden tusk]

im debating taking them for the avoidance

[stuck bison]

basedge

[peak lagoon]

.5 patch probably right

seeds from 7 to 9 or something

and then the nerf before a month before fated

[wild mural]

real

[peak lagoon]

double soak seed

🤪

[modest condor]

make it so you can soak 2 seeds

[peak lagoon]

thats reserved for the pre fated patch

im sorry

[modest condor]

also isnt the timer right now 5, not 7

[peak lagoon]

i havent been on tindral for like a month

so i forgor

reclears soon

[clever belfry]

its 5

[peak lagoon]

[clever belfry]

in p2 and p3

it was 3 in both on release

then 3 - 5 before the big wave of nerfs

[peak lagoon]

3 on P2 and 5 on P3

[quiet scaffold]

and with characters of classic realms ><, what is this joke blizzard

[wild mural]

it's prison time

[clever belfry]

no it was 3-3

on release

it was NOT killed like that

[mossy fox]

yeah it's 5s atm

[clever belfry]

but thats how it released.

[peak lagoon]

did they even get to P3 with 3 second seeds

[clever belfry]

yes

[peak lagoon]

because thats unplayable with beams

[clever belfry]

like

twice xdd

thats why they nerfed it

[peak lagoon]

imagine double beam going over a seed

[clever belfry]

just immune bro

real

[mossy fox]

i think more time is prolly better than allowing 2 seeds per person

[dire badge]

just live

[mossy fox]

though i wouldnt protest if they did allow 2 per person

[clever belfry]

they will not allow 2 per person

[peak lagoon]

using immune for seed when starfall + roots is coming up doing 1M+ dmg into seed soak

aware

[clever belfry]

they might do it so u cant blow up raid if u take 2nd

[peak lagoon]

starfall prenerf

hurt so fcking much

[mossy fox]

ya maybe

[clever belfry]

as in just walk over itand nothing happens

but first they will

-2 seeds

-1 flier bomb to alleviate comp reqs

[cerulean blaze]

Is there an ST build without spear of bastion?

[peak lagoon]

2 seed soak is reserved for the pre fated nerf for last minute CE

[clever belfry]

the trees pre nerf was fucked

[oblique trail]

Using Roar is -1.2%~

Roughly

[olive wraith]

Use roar

[mossy fox]

yeah it just takes roar instead of spear

[clever belfry]

• starfall overlap on 2nd roots

[cerulean blaze]

ok thx

[peak lagoon]

yeah that fcking overlap

[modest condor]

it will still be easily 200+ pull boss for low-CE guilds tho even with being able to soak 2 seeds

[peak lagoon]

was disgusting

[clever belfry]

i mean just press a wall

[clever belfry]

skill issue, literally

[fiery jetty]

i have a question for all of u... What i need to do first to get the lego?=.... Kill Fyrak normal to heroic... or kill heroic and then normal... of LFR - N - H or need to be H - N - LFR

[oblique trail]

Kill HC first

[modest condor]

kill heroic and dont do any of the other difficulties

[oblique trail]

Then log off

[wild mural]

just do heroic

and fuck off anything else

[peak lagoon]

800K+ starfall into stack for roots into dispells + rot into beams into soak seeds

HOLY FCK what a sequence in P3

[clever belfry]

i didnt do that part before the nerf

[peak lagoon]

tindral was a fcking monster

[clever belfry]

just into p2

[mossy fox]

idk man i was fury and didnt care much about incoming damage

[clever belfry]

u didnt play the pre starfall nerf version at all did u crit

[mossy fox]

no thats true

[oblique trail]

Press a wall meanwhile Fury literally is passively tankier than some specs who uses a DR (probably)

[clever belfry]

but even as fury ur healthbar wouldve moved

thats how much it hurt

[peak lagoon]

starfall went from like a 800-900K dmg instance to a 500-400K instance

after the nerf

without counting swirlies

[clever belfry]

• tree dmg was nerfed

[peak lagoon]

tindral

[clever belfry]

• seed rot was also donked a bit right

like 10%

[modest condor]

starfall doesnt happen in p1 right?

[clever belfry]

it does

[peak lagoon]

it does

[clever belfry]

right before first root/dispells

[modest condor]

oh

[clever belfry]

and right before 2nd roots (the break ones with beams)

u dont notice it o nfury

dw

[peak lagoon]

i understand why healers fcking hated the fight

[clever belfry]

its like 25% of ur hp at worst

xdd

[peak lagoon]

imagine having to dodge beams stack up dispell

all while having to pump the most disgusting amount of hps they will ever do in their life

[modest condor]

yeah that's why i didnt even know it happens in p1

[peak lagoon]

holy fck

[modest condor]

never felt like i got hit by anything

[clever belfry]

our dispell 4 healer who was assigned FAR RIGHT seed and then dispell 4 kept going far left

so they didnt have range

👑

[molten relic]

Guy doesn’t know left from right

Gaming at its finest

[peak lagoon]

i dont think they will top the amount of disgusting shit healers had to do on prenerf tindral

in a long while

[clever belfry]

idk our RL said u can go far left or far right

which was

just wrong

xdd

[molten relic]

Tell him to go clockwise

[clever belfry]

i will say

NWW

SSE

for directions

or i will use radian angle starting from north going ccw

[molten relic]

Ya

[clever belfry]

u need to go 2/5 pi

[molten relic]

Exactly that