#fury

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clever path
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or nathria plate helmet lol

next spindle
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Yeah yeah, I just thought the Token wasn't buyable and just dropped from Sylvie, I seem to have remembered that wrong
I'm the one who's mixing stuff up now it seems :v

sullen dove
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if it works the same as SL

edgy widget
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it's perfect for bad luck protection, but it really devalues the whole spirit of the game thing when everyone can just buy the best item - reason it worked for the fated seasons is because of the raid rotation and short season

hollow elk
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true

sullen dove
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i think like a single dinar 2-3 months in would be cool

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for the season

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no very rare items

edgy widget
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like if everyone can just buy the legendary/cantrip weapon and Signet or w/e their best trinket is, that devalues a huge portion of the game

sullen dove
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some semblance if if youre still somehow actually missing this bis trinket from raid or somethin

cosmic lance
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I wonder if BLP is going to carry over for the ultra low-roll gamers trying to get Legendary next season

edgy widget
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if the game actually had so much loot that everyone wanted something different... idk it might be a different story

hard relic
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wait is it certain that we're gonna be able to upgrade the legendary next season or is it an assumption?

junior gale
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I always said this shit for M+ vault. Should be able to use a lot of socket currency to buy a piece from M+ and Myth track quality It sucks that M+ gear is stuck with pure vault rng

edgy widget
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but lets face it - virtually everyone wants the same shit these days, so you go from everyone wanting signet or augury drops (or whatever item it may be) to nobody wanting those drops because of Dinar

edgy widget
hard relic
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ahh gotcha

hollow elk
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if it follows shadowland rule for the lego tho. wont we have to get the legendary one way or the other before we are allowed to get the upgraded dinar one?

chrome plover
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would have to go back and do non-fated fyrakk on the non-amirdrassil weeks too

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if you needed legendary

edgy widget
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but again, this is all just guesswork - we don't know yet

silent vault
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How is the poll looking in the US atm? Can only see eu since results only show after voting

chrome plover
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idk if im gonna play at all for the rest of the season, so I might be one of those people

hollow elk
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oh thank god the gap widens

silent vault
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yikes

clever path
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people hate skill expression ig.

next spindle
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Temporada 3 let's go!

true arch
chrome plover
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other seasons had skill expression?

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must have missed that

young swan
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so much skill expression in getting more reck procs than the other guy

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haha!

edgy widget
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lmao

hollow elk
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dunno

chrome plover
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pray for reck procs and press bloodthirst when you hear the kaching

young swan
edgy widget
cosmic lance
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Look i've seen some shit in logs, people struggle with the fury rotation ok

true arch
sullen dove
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skill expression = dont get targeted by mechanics for the entire 7 minute long fight and never drop recklessness! haha! echo of neltharion btw!

young swan
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s1 is the best so im in despair

junior gale
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Good S2 was the best looking set of the 3

young swan
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it definitely wasnt

eternal sundial
eternal sundial
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Aj**

hollow elk
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people acting like every season isnt literally just the one build that everyone will follow. want to be unique go play smf or something

young swan
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i love pressing button when weakaura light up!

junior gale
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I thought rock man set was good but not as good as Dragon Knight

chrome plover
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^

chrome plover
true arch
chrome plover
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just does less damage

cosmic lance
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But you run faster

young swan
next spindle
true arch
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though being a rock is kinda based tho

hollow elk
young swan
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shoulders are too small proportional to the head

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the belt is massive

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the legs and boots are wacky

true arch
chrome plover
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I dont think it's really a damage discussion right? we have no idea what tuning they are going to do

young swan
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i play human

sullen dove
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i mean pretty sure they said there were gonna normalize the sets doing similar damage yeah

chrome plover
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I really dont think your vote should be based on power levels lmao

sullen dove
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just mostly playstyle

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and s2 tier is just a flat out inferior season 3 tier

edgy widget
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I'd love a black & gold scheme

chrome plover
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having permanent access to bloodthirst healing is so nice idk

cosmic lance
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Nathria mythic had that colour scheme didnt it?

true arch
clever path
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this color scheme is disgusting

next spindle
clever path
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what the hell even is that

junior gale
ashen swallow
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S2 heroic/mythic set looked the best on my Gnome, not sure about other races

edgy widget
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Heroic and Elite sets were good

hollow elk
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i still cant believe that a person that took at least 2 years of color theory picked thos colors.

edgy widget
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the rest sucked

grizzled wadi
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S2 set has big Power Rangers vibes

eternal sundial
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Elite very weird

young swan
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the normal color palette is pretty good

junior gale
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Elite set was a banger

mossy fox
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HC s2 was great

true arch
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the PVP colour scheme is one of the best warrior sets we've gotten imo, id kill for a chance to get it

young swan
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big fan of normal abby

grizzled wadi
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S1 is Geodude like... big meh.

chrome plover
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I dont like any of the dragonflight sets :(

sour frigate
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i got mu online dark knight vibes from warrior s2 set xd

edgy widget
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oh good Critcake is here, now I can go to bed and let him spend all day arguing in favor of S2

grizzled wadi
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S3 is pretty nice. Looks a lot like MM Sargeras tomb set.

hollow elk
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paladin sets got picked by a bucket of yellow and fluoresent paint lol

junior gale
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Team S2 for fury lets go!

sour frigate
grizzled wadi
clever path
jovial coral
river loom
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XD

grizzled wadi
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S3 is the most Warrior set. Big plate and chains and pikes

true arch
sour frigate
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chest is bad

hollow elk
# sour frigate meh

nothing looks good on elfs anyways. thickest armor looks like a sweater on em

mossy fox
grizzled wadi
south kayak
young swan
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the elite set is by far the best for this tier

magic onyx
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do you really wanna press cds once per 1.5m, press fucking slam, and do 1 2 1 2 rotation?

south kayak
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the normal set is great

edgy widget
south kayak
sullen dove
sullen dove
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literal same thing?

summer zephyr
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i dont like any sets as a whole, but i like some pieces from each one, probably can mog them with something else

hollow elk
# sour frigate

literally only works because the shoulders are big enough to clover the straw arms

sullen dove
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and be severely punished if for any reason you get pushed off the boss, where current fury is just "eh lose some odyns oh well"

fleet kettle
cosmic lance
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The current tier set reminds me of like, a low effort Blackrock FOundtry tier set

sour frigate
clever path
frozen tartan
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How are the votes on US Forums? Can't see them, since I can't vote there.

clever path
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that chest is ass

ashen swallow
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I don't mind having the s3 set bonus for raid fights but I'd really like some way to get AM back for m+

chrome plover
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for me it's 3 5 3 5 3 5 3

edgy widget
clever path
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gloves dont work properly

fleet kettle
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I guess season 1 look it is hahah

grizzled wadi
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With S3 set my Belf is a cutie. Yeah I know, tmog chan... x)

frozen tartan
chrome plover
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S3 is winning this purpleface

sour frigate
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ew belfs

true arch
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S2 winning nicely btw

hollow elk
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youre implying that doing 5-7 rampages then a single blood thirst is good.

sour frigate
junior gale
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10% s3 votes for mog keks

true arch
clever path
true arch
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but probably, it only makes sense

edgy widget
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I don't understand

  • S2 presses 90% RB and Rampage, 10% BT and WW

  • S3 presses 90% BT and Rampage, 10% Slam and WW

  • S2 presses Reck & Rav every ~30s, Ava & Roar 1.5m (sometimes 1m)

  • S3 presses OF every ~20s, Ava & Reck every 1.5m, Roar every 1.5m (sometimes 1m)

I don't get why people think they're so massively different in terms of frequency

analog summit
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What's the point of making votes on skins... Cause you know... Transmog exists

chrome plover
fading sky
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i think its just coz RAV feels like a cd more than

chrome plover
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to what we already have

fading sky
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of

junior gale
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didnt u generally play 1 min roar with s2 fury

fading sky
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but season 3 is strong as fuck esp in raid

clever path
strange briar
fading sky
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i mean it is we are tuned badly

fading sky
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but the spec is strong

clever path
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noone is listening anyway

fading sky
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the cds

clever path
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sadly

true arch
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FUCK ravager, idc how "boring" the rotation is now, i do not wanna spec into that lame ass ability

edgy widget
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maybe once every few minutes or so

sour frigate
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i didnt bother making 1800 cuz of dumb queues might will do it 2s next season

strange briar
clever path
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you'll have empty globals without WFT tho

fading sky
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weel even without wft not to often

edgy widget
# strange briar oh then i suck lol

you gotta focus on weaving Bloodthirst, you want to keep it almost on cooldown; spending rage on Rampage asap is no longer the main concern with RA

fading sky
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it can happen for sure but its not terrible

radiant plank
edgy widget
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about the only time it happens to me is when I do it on purpose for a DPS gain

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and I can't really complain about it in that case, when I'm doing it on purpose

sour frigate
sour frigate
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at 1600-1700

true arch
edgy widget
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and you don't have to, it's not even a big optimization

radiant plank
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Weird, during s2 my highest Q for SS at 1700 was like 10mins during degen hours

edgy widget
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you can literally just send on BT and go about your merry way if the empty global bothers you - I try to cycle charge there

strange briar
lofty lantern
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so much 1 button macro enjoyers here wow

clever path
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i do it i got kinda used to waiting for buffed BB unless my rage is super super low

edgy widget
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you wanna keep BT almost on cooldown to keep the tempo going, otherwise yeah you probably will run out of GCDs

strange briar
clever path
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its just BT every 2nd global unless >110 rage then u ramp

edgy widget
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the exception, as @clever path eluded to, is when you get that OF cast without Recklessness, you'll usually end up getting 2 bloodbath's off really quick and then kinda rage starve on the third

hollow elk
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archie stop trying to logic the savages

edgy widget
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in that case, you can delay Bloodthirst in order to spend the third buff charge on Bloodbath instead, and that usually will result in an empty global - something like this
Rampage -> Odyn's Fury -> Bloodbath -> Rampage -> Bloodbath -> Slam -> Whirlwind -> Rampage -> Bloodbath -> Empty GCD (charge) -> Bloodthirst

true arch
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homie pulled out the text box

clever path
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lmfao

edgy widget
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but again, you don't have to do that - it's a very minor optimization over simply sending that third buff charge on Bloodthirst (which won't give you an empty GCD, since you don't have to waste Slam/WW)

south kayak
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need to fix that brh

hollow elk
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well people trying to lock us into a shit season for a 4months. hes doing wgods work lol

south kayak
edgy widget
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so if the empty GCD bothers you too much, just don't bother with it and keep up the normal rota

next spindle
sour frigate
strange briar
next spindle
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^ tru

edgy widget
edgy widget
clever path
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atleast we wont be blind to mechanics with spear clarity change

ashen swallow
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Unless I'm misunderstanding, sometimes it is worth just doing buffed bloodthirst on the third charge instead of waiting for bloodbath?

clever path
true arch
cosmic lance
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Its far simpler to manage and not much of a loss

ashen swallow
edgy widget
clever path
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So far I have been doing most of my pulls like that - reck / might of the ocean -> rampage -> OF -> avatar

strange briar
edgy widget
clever path
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ur overlapping OF

edgy widget
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^

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thas bad

clever path
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can you elaborate more on that

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like a 5 year old

south kayak
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If you use Avatar right after OF, you're gonna delete the bleed damage

clever path
south kayak
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from the initial OF

ashen swallow
clever path
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it has bleed, wow xan

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if u OF then insta avatar u delete ur dot

south kayak
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btw I thought OF was fire damage until a few weeks ago lol @edgy widget

cosmic lance
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You delete your dot and waste even more dancing blade duration

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It did used to be fire in legion iirc?

strange briar
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Hey another question - while playing fury, it also sometimers feels janky due to no animation for slam and bloodthirst sometimes due to high haste, is this only me?

clever path
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it was fire in legion its been physical since S1 df

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afaik

south kayak
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Yeah that's why I thought it was fire

edgy widget
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doesn't work on all bosses though

next spindle
edgy widget
south kayak
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they should make it fire

strange briar
summer zephyr
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on pull, you do you cast TR with initial OF or with avatar after 4 secs?

south kayak
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TR with initial OF

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after it

clever path
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does anyone here know if we BT and pray for enrage and send OF on pull for tindral or we get enraged first?

honest remnant
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Nostalgia hits

edgy widget
junior gale
clever path
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ye its what i've been doing

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even was wondering about fresh meat but i think BC is 3k st or smth

honest remnant
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Thats what you should do

honest remnant
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Getting OF ready for roots >>> of enraged dmg on st

edgy widget
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Also you can double charge on the pull pretty easily for more rage

clever path
edgy widget
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yep

clever path
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ye i do the double charge but its mostly for the rampage right after OF

junior gale
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No DB?

edgy widget
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unless you actually run into a ST damage problem, it's far more consistent and better root damage

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and my group doesn't stack DH/Lock

nocturne dragon
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Speaking of TR, I've been meaning to ask this but keep forgetting.
So the bleed ticks for 8 secs right, let's say you cast it when enraged to get damage bonus but enrage only last 4 secs, did the all 8s bleed tick affected by the enraged damage bonus?

hushed ocean
clever path
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you can double charge tindral

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on pull

edgy widget
clever path
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you charge run out charge

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within 1 second

junior gale
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dont even need to run out you charge as tanks pull bt and charge again when hes at his final spot

edgy widget
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or on Tindral, since he is usually pulled towards the raid, you charge through him, turn around and charge again

mossy fox
hushed ocean
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Oh...ok

edgy widget
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it's not time efficient, but if you're not using cooldowns on the pull, it helps generate enough rage to build up to rampage easier

edgy widget
clever path
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the tindral cd logs for fury all seems scuffed, there's people sending only reck on pull without ava

ashen swallow
mossy fox
clever path
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i dont know its a minority but there are people sending reck on pull

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without ava

mossy fox
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tindral log 🙃

fleet kettle
silver zealot
# mossy fox

Any chance for another commentary video? Your smold one was amazing

fleet kettle
clever path
mossy fox
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i think everyone's logs were just not great cause if everyone is trying to blast roots, nobody is blasting roots

fleet kettle
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@mossy fox Love your videos!

edgy widget
# clever path i dont know its a minority but there are people sending reck on pull

there are a lot of variations, but the best advice for learning the fight and dealing with the most important mechanics (roots/shield) is to

  • hold CDs on the pull (sans OF)

  • use just OF on first roots, since they get divebombed

  • full CD on second roots without dive bomb

  • dive bomb third set yourself

  • OF on second platform shield

  • full CD 1st roots before seeds (you could hold this since they also get dive bombed, but it lines up well later)

  • OF 2nd roots

  • dive bomb 3rd roots

  • full CD third platform shield

  • continue alternating OF/full CDs on roots, prio boss to kill

clever path
magic onyx
edgy widget
# mossy fox i think everyone's logs were just not great cause if everyone is trying to blast...

very true, a lot of it also depends on what your damage looks like when you start getting near the end of the boss - definitely not a bad idea to spec over to DB if you feel like you need more ST damage to finish it off and the roots are already being overkilled

But for learning the fight, I think TR is better hands down; it's quicker, requires no setup, and deals more raw damage (how effective it is can be debated, but that doesn't really matter till you're getting to the end of the fight anyway)

nocturne dragon
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Thx archi for the answer.

clever path
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and ty archi for tindral advice

magic onyx
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idk who wanna use tr in raids pog

edgy widget
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the person who just explained why it's better, pog

junior gale
edgy widget
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thanks for coming to my ted talk

mossy fox
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we had enough st to skip the last feathers with fire beams

brazen cloud
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vote season 1 MEGA

edgy widget
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at this point in prog, the ST check shouldn't be that hard to overcome

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people who were doing it in the first few weeks are a different story

mossy fox
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definitely a nice thing to skip, though not needed

edgy widget
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once you've learned the fight and gotten to your 18% P3 wipes or whatever, then you can reevaluate where you think you need damage

magic onyx
edgy widget
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You have made it quite clear that you question everything I say, yes

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Though you have not made it clear as to why, aside from just wanting to be disputatious

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and yes, you need to be Enraged, you want to have Whirlwind up, and while both of those things are individually easy, they do require more setup - as pointed out, you also have a much higher chance of missing out on your opening OF, or mistiming your first root OF by waiting for Enrage on the pull (or you'd need to send your opening OF unenraged, which isn't great either)

errant vessel
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because I find myself waiting a full gcd and then using Slam+WW sometimes just to use empower on BB

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which seems a little too clunky to be worth

edgy widget
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you should never have an empty GCD before you use Slam + WW

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it would only come after, and it's only ever one, since Bloodthirst has a 2-GCD cooldown

errant vessel
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ye but I mean if you're fury starved and both of Slam+WW is down until the gcd after

edgy widget
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I wrote out a sample of what it should generally look like here
#fury message

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the part about Rampage before OF is also key, helps you pool and jumpstart your next Rampage (for the 2nd bloodbath)

errant vessel
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oh ye I need to reintegrate charge weaving

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yeah always do that as well

edgy widget
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you don't need to cycle charge, it's just something nice to do during that dead GCD, if you can afford to

errant vessel
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sometimes that 3rd BB is just a little far away

fading sky
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i hate to ask im sittin here leveling alchemy which tree should i take just for power in raid ?

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theres still reduced dmg from toxic thing somewhere r?

edgy widget
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Yeah, that one isn't bad; best "performance" unless you're wanting to make your own pots n stuff

junior gale
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1:30 duration on phials is bis

sand nacelle
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holy, I did not expect people to vote for S3 fury set

fading sky
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found it alchemical

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something

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its only 40 points or something to get that benefit then i can go into phials i guess

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not like im trying to make any gold with alc anyways

edgy widget
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actually phials is good to start if you don't already have the extra duration unlocked

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I forget what it requires, I set it up so long ago

fading sky
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ye i know, ive just had inscription for so long now

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and ngl it never made any profit so when i maxxed it i dumped it 😄

edgy widget
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Yeah I don't do anything with alchemy, just have it for the extra phial duration tbh... but that alone has been worth it

red berry
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archi. what would you do to make the first tier set good? if that sort of speculation is something you might enjoy talking about anyway but im curious

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its not like s1 will win

edgy widget
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I'd delete it and start over from scratch

hollow elk
magic onyx
red berry
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yeah. hard to bandaid something like that

hollow elk
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furiously repairing armor on pull

edgy widget
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idk, I'm sure there's a number at which point it works... I'm just not sure it would be a reasonable number that they could buff it by

sullen dove
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bro is yaptimus prime

true arch
delicate fulcrum
red berry
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i personally adore s3 even if i'm not the biggest fan of RA. i just want them to buff the AoE potential of the set

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just letting us cleave the bloodthirst buff fully surely wouldn't be -that- bad

true arch
red berry
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i am not its a bit

true arch
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yup

clever path
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make it 8 targets and its fixed

south kayak
red berry
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i don't think extending 5 to 8 would really address the dividend created this season, actually

clever path
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they will never overbuff the damage on WW cleave due to the potential of making Arms 2T garbage

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or well useless

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unless they buff SS as well

south kayak
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Archi, did u tell them to make BB cleave full damage with 2p

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🙏

delicate fulcrum
clever path
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literally

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we're still gonna do less dmg than outlaw even with 8 targets lmfao

delicate fulcrum
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Autoattacks goes brrrrr 🤣😎

red berry
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keeping the cap at 5 but allowing us to cleave the buff from the tierset would fine tbh

clever path
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shit i dont think 8 targets even changes our position in m+ meta at all

hardy remnant
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Serious question lads. Returning to fury for a week now. I want to take ur advice about some situation in m+. What would u do if u use reck and OR and the pack gets already deleted befor u pop avatar . Do u open with avatar next pack or wait for cds to align again

hardy remnant
delicate fulcrum
sand nacelle
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S2 was more fun for sure

clever path
edgy widget
# magic onyx i mean, even now you are saying that it is a good idea to drop ~3-3.5% of st dps...

1. OF also hits Tindral, so that "3% ST damage" is mitigated by what you gain from OF; in reality its closer to 2-2.5%, which is rather small.

2. I didn't say it was hard to Enrage, in fact I specifically said it's not particularly hard in the text you quoted

3. The targets aren't up before you Whirlwind, or your OF is already late

4. Whether or not the damage is wasted is largely a matter of circumstance, but you might also note that I specifically said it was better for learning the fight - in which case the damage really doesn't matter either way, as his phasing is dependent more on time in M.

red berry
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i think the s2 initial iteration was more fun if not overpowered

cosmic lance
delicate fulcrum
hardy remnant
true arch
red berry
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but having to spend 6-7 rampages to build up a bloodthirst felt clunky to me

sand nacelle
red berry
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it also meant your GW uptime was just kind of

edgy widget
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More importantly though, if that "3% ST damage" is your primary concern, focusing on Dancing Blades is odd when you're still sending most of your damage into roots anyway - by that logic, you should be using full CDs on the pull rather than saving them for roots

clever path
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you'll teach yourself a bad habit anyway otherwise

edgy widget
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and if that's what you wanna do, cool, go for it; hell in that case you might as well be playing Arms, go nuts - it's certainly doable

tiny notch
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i’m calling into question archimitiros’ validity and game knowledge, based on nothing at all

hardy remnant
clever path
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if u get cds back in the middle of a pack depending on hp u can send cds

atomic nymph
edgy widget
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at the end of the day, you're playing Fury for root damage more than anything else, and TR is both better at root damage and easier to deal root damage - which matters for people still learning the fight

if sometime before the end of the progression you have decided that you need more ST damage, then feel free to switch over to DB, or Arms, or change your CD timing, whatever you feel you need to do - nobody is suggesting otherwise; I simply made a very straightfoward observation: TR is demonstrably easier to learn the fight with

south kayak
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is OF soft capped

edgy widget
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yes

clever path
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at 20 targets

south kayak
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Doesn't show on the description

edgy widget
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nope

edgy widget
clever path
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really?

edgy widget
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yup

south kayak
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how to pad on tindral

delicate fulcrum
clever path
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i thought that shit was usually on the tooltip

south kayak
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invite 40 people and tell themn to let you kill them

clever path
hollow elk
true arch
sullen dove
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"screenshot"

red berry
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why did you take a picture with your phone

edgy widget
sullen dove
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bro whipped out his iphone camera

pallid idol
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If someone wanted to find a resource for most broken tier set among all specs for s1-3 where would they look ?

south kayak
granite crescent
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bro who wtakes a pic of their screen using a phone

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hello

junior gale
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ppl really need to learn the magic of Windows key + shift + S

fleet kettle
granite crescent
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i legit JUST joined the server and now i'm leaving cause thats the first thing i see

delicate fulcrum
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Dont have discord on that pc 😐

fleet kettle
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Thats crazy

red berry
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rough

cosmic lance
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It's warrior discord you're lucky its not a crayon drawing

sullen dove
#

dont go...

true arch
#

☝️ 🤓 "dont you know screenshots look better"

sullen dove
#

please...

hollow elk
#

look an " im leaving " message

#

lol

true arch
#

head ahh

atomic nymph
# south kayak

bro who takes a screenshot of their discord containing a picture of someones screen

edgy widget
#

I'm leaving too, that shit sent me to bed

sullen dove
hollow elk
#

rip archie

red berry
#

im so sorry. get some good rest

sullen dove
#

do you honk shoo honk shoo or honk mimimimi

edgy widget
#

@magic onyx I know you're about to say some contrarian shit, don't bother - I'm going to bed

hollow elk
#

time to breakfast and then work

edgy widget
#

it way past my bedge time

true arch
#

what time is it for u

edgy widget
#

bedtime

hollow elk
#

typing up a storm

#

or constantly deleting

south kayak
#

lmao

hollow elk
clever path
#

here comes the essay

junior gale
#

hes constantly deleting

sullen dove
#

we call that in the business essaying

junior gale
#

hes nervous

ashen socket
#

Can't go to bed until the qouta is met

hollow elk
#

oh he stoppd

junior gale
#

see

red berry
#

give him a moment he's trying to cook

#

he's in the kitchen

gusty fern
sullen dove
#

wheres the guy to post his 500 let him cook images

hollow elk
#

furybringer more like keyboard bringer

true arch
#

imagine the mechanical keyboard gunshots in his room right now shaking all the wow funko pops on his desk

junior gale
#

Hey bro just hit us with the typed up in Notepad and copy pasted here

hollow elk
sullen dove
atomic nymph
#

Can't believe we're having a discord post waiting room / release party rn

crude parcel
#

Hmm i thnk season 2 set is better

hollow elk
#

thats nice

#

go vote

warm swallow
hollow elk
#

think he/she/it is thinking looks

uneven plaza
#

Season 1 or season 2 set? peepostudy

crude parcel
#

s1 for sure

#

here we go

uneven plaza
#

i barely remember what it did

crude parcel
#

tmog ss1

#

is bis

#

ssn 2 for set

magic onyx
# edgy widget **1.** OF also hits Tindral, so that "3% ST damage" is mitigated by what you gai...
  1. idk what about you but, for me it is a 3.8% according to sim and i already counted it
  2. Your argument was based on TR being easier to press, now you're saying there's essentially no difference
  3. you are enraged -> you pressing OF -> you can press WW -> bb/rampage
    or you can just use ww before OF, no science here
    im personally pressing legendary after OF so it doesnt matter for me
  4. isnt it better to use correct talents to get used to them?
hollow elk
#

oh man

junior gale
#

dam all that time for just that

atomic nymph
#

Shorter than i expected

hollow elk
#

what is this hock of shit

atomic nymph
#

This does not compare to Kanye dropping backstreet boys 2.0

hollow elk
#

archie go to bed man

junior gale
#

oh no he woke him up

granite crescent
crude parcel
#

wdym?

solemn oyster
#

Good morning archi

junior gale
granite crescent
#

bro is typing up a bible

edgy widget
# magic onyx 1) idk what about you but, for me it is a 3.8% according to sim and i already co...

1. Tindral ain't a pure ST fight, your sim isn't accurate

2. Those two statements are not mutually exclusive, it can be both easier and a trivial difference

3. Using WW after OF is worse than using it before OF, so yes there is some science there 🤓

4. "Correct" is a matter of opinion here. As stated, root damage matters (to a point), boss damage also matters (beyond a point). Many groups and individual players change things up as they learn a fight - from comp, to cooldown timing, to when they use defensives, potions, or lust.

I don't see why you're so dead set on being contrarian about anything and everything; you've been switching topics all night, clinging to whatever you can in order to try to "prove me wrong" or otherwise "pull one over on me" and although the little man crush is cute, it is exhausting, so I really am going to bed now

#

gnight

hollow elk
#

damn

sullen basin
#

My first tindral H kill for progress was a blue that's good right?

atomic nymph
solemn oyster
#

it’s all in the eye of the beholder

edgy widget
frigid zealot
sullen basin
#

Yeah I was just under the top DPS on that fight so I did my best

true arch
#

all this nerding over how to get 0.1% more dps as a warrior when the real answer is

hidden crystal
#

Good is subjective

solemn oyster
#

Then it is good, I’m proud of you

frigid zealot
#

He was forced to switch

edgy widget
solemn oyster
#

‘fury’ is the same as ‘rage’ they said

sullen basin
#

Maybe the trash on way?

frigid zealot
#

Man must be turd

solemn oyster
#

Depends

#

Havoc has a lot of reap talent buolds

true arch
frigid zealot
#

Dh just press 2 button rank 1s for days

#

Just like sub rogues

fleet parrot
solemn oyster
#

hey :(

clever path
sullen basin
#

That's a metric

clever path
#

that is still not a metric

sullen basin
#

Fury owns

sullen dove
#

you are playing with dogshit havocs chatting

solemn oyster
#

Gigachad

sullen dove
#

but good job anyway

cosmic lance
#

The dps statistic charts matter less and less the further away from top level play

sullen basin
#

I lose almost every time to the unholy DK

cosmic lance
#

People just straight up arent pressing the right buttons past a certain point

solemn oyster
#

‘I am the metric’

sullen basin
#

And those guys allegedly suck (they don't)

sullen dove
#

depends how fast bosses die

eternal sundial
#

Uhdk isnt great

sullen basin
#

Uhdk isn't good if the fight lasts forever

sullen dove
#

if its like a 1:30 - 2 min heroic boss dk prolly looks god

#

or like just after their 3min at like 3:30-4min

#

but i dont think they peak as high with second cds than if it dies quickly after first cd

snow edge
#

Looks god, or looks good

sullen basin
#

Uhdk looks bad without PI I guess

#

Guys without going arms and without destroying the computer of everyone in raid higher PI prio than me how do I get PI

clever path
#

pay the priests with gold

cosmic lance
#

Paypal

sullen basin
#

Wish Aug would give me prescience or whatever

#

I have to stand close to them which means paying attention to more than just mechanics for any buff

#

Give more classes a PI copy btw
Ruin priests
They already ruined shamans bloodlust

true arch
#

what did they do to bloodlust

sullen basin
#

Give it to everyone

cosmic lance
#

Gave it to aug and mage and hunter

true arch
#

ohhh

solemn oyster
#

warrior should have bloodlust

sullen basin
#

Real

clever path
#

Evoker is shit

solemn oyster
#

we’re the most bloodlusty class

sullen basin
#

Warr should have PI

clever path
#

I have proofs

solemn oyster
#

Dev is fun

cosmic lance
#

I speaks volumes that i just call it aug by default atm not evoker

sullen basin
#

It makes zero sense we don't have a shout to buff more than just AP or Health

solemn oyster
#

aug is not fun

misty sierra
#

warr should have a healing spec where we yell at our party to heal them

lusty delta
#

Hi guys, what uptime is fine for enrage for m+ ?

true arch
#

give warriors the option to use the necrolord banner and watch us become meta overnight

cosmic lance
#

Nobody knows there are other evoker specs

misty sierra
#

warr should be able to cr using thunder clap

clever path
#

i can get behind

misty sierra
#

ill clap those cheeks to ress u

sullen basin
solemn oyster
sullen basin
#

Inviting dev to raid is a DPS loss

misty sierra
true arch
#

no

clever path
#

Living flame spam

#

Also for unbelievers that fury is rocking right now, look at 2 hm hunters on overalls

#

Inspiration for you, and you and you and everyone for free

sullen basin
clever path
sullen basin
#

I did a 20 everbloom earlier and the surv and tank kept dying to the mage boss so we wiped like 3-4 times and the tank left

misty sierra
#

hunters just gonna get one shooted in high keys and we'll shrug it off like nothing

clever path
#

190k overalls in lords year 2024

stuck bison
#

what key level is that 18 n? 20 ?

sullen basin
#

It was DH tank so explains everything

clever path
#

On 4th run it was already boring

fleet kettle
#

its 25+ keys where the metrics starts to differ insanely

solemn oyster
#

Acting as if BM isn’t only played by grandmas

stuck bison
#

i woudnt compare bm and fury dps at 18s

sour frigate
#

Beast cleave lessgo

fleet kettle
#

around 25+ keys classes have the chance to let their dots do work so I say its best to compare it there

misty sierra
#

in higher keys bm will beat fury out on dps if both player are competent, but bm will die to so many bosses this week any key at 27+

fossil hatch
true arch
#

ngl u could do better than 190k in an 18 my bossman

misty sierra
#

i mean 190k is fine

solemn oyster
clever path
misty sierra
clever path
#

My fingers were fucking dead deadge

misty sierra
#

kekw

clever path
#

132k for 8 runs

#

Or finger trauma

true arch
fleet parrot
#

132k gold?

true arch
#

cant be spending it all on wow

fleet parrot
#

That’s fuck all for 8 runs lel

fossil hatch
#

8 runs for 3 euros keks

solemn oyster
#

bro I should do runs to fund l the legendary

misty sierra
#

the lego is so cheap man

sullen basin
#

Do mats cost different on different servers
Like is a lot of it crafted or all just materials

#

I'm on a small server

eternal sundial
#

Cross server mats

sullen basin
#

That means big scams

eternal sundial
#

Since mid s1

true arch
#

yo did u have to spend any gold to be able to use the sylvanas bow?

eternal sundial
#

No

sullen basin
#

I know that Phil

#

That's not what I asked

misty sierra
#

its like

#

250k

#

ish

sullen basin
#

Huge

#

One token

#

I have half that already anyway

eternal sundial
#

I payed no comission

clever path
#

It’s boosters split

misty sierra
#

its cheap compare to evoker ones

clever path
#

132k for 4 boosters

#

Excluding other bollocks

misty sierra
#

i cant get into boosting sadge

true arch
misty sierra
#

no1 wants me

lean wasp
#

I pinned all the mats on my AH and started buying once they got to certain points

sullen basin
clever path
#

Dragon races yay

#

Repair bills covered

true arch
sullen basin
#

Two races for a full 100% repair

#

You get like 10 races a week right

misty sierra
#

one night of tindral progress

#

yay

#

actually ill need like 5 full repair for that

#

so 10 races

true arch
#

jeez i forgot how aids mythic raiding was

misty sierra
#

its so fun

clever path
#

I don’t raid since BfA , fuck that

#

30 sweaty people

#

Yelling in comms with ww1 mics

true arch
#

its nice once u hit CE but the way up is soooo fucking lame

misty sierra
#

maybe its my guild but its so chill

#

half the time im just talking shit when progressing

true arch
#

stone legion prog 💩 👍

solemn oyster
#

Yeah I play in a casual mythic guild that pushes halfway into the tier after aotc. it’s fun and lets me slam keys

junior gale
#

every guild is different mine is full of memes and banter all of prog

misty sierra
#

its about the community, if u get into a good one its real nice

true arch
#

i moved away from the US so now i cant raid when good guilds raid cause its always in the AMs for me

#

i did a whole tier raiding at 3am with 230 ping

#

still got that CE tho

#

worth ( i never raided again)

solemn oyster
#

Based tbh

deep niche
#

who tf votes for s3 tier keks

misty sierra
#

kazzak guy is probably also having 300 ping

clever path
#

^ kazzak

uneven plaza
#

qqqqqqqqqqqqqqnnö0ßüääl

stuck bison
#

i would like to vote s1 tier it was fun but damage was low

misty sierra
#

i press execute, i'm happy

solemn oyster
#

Bro imagine how cancer it would be if they dracthyr access to all classes

#

those racials…

clever path
#

fury warrior

#

dracthyr

#

pog

misty sierra
#

whats the drachtyr dps passive?

solemn oyster
#

with a glide and 2 free cc effects

#

getting Druid typhoon and shaman thunderstorm on every class

clever path
#

Wait a minute

#

Dracthr, 2ccs, glide

misty sierra
#

but the important question

clever path
#

Prot war dracthyr

misty sierra
#

do they have a dps passive

true arch
clever path
#

is fucking knockoff demon hunter from wish com

solemn oyster
#

but also fuck this channel and I hope it’s arms 100% of the time

tall turret
clever path
#

arms S tier next expansio

#

you ll see

solemn oyster
#

after 600 reworks yes

true arch
#

we found the arms spy

solemn oyster
#

bro I only talk in this channel cuz it’s active

clever path
solemn oyster
#

arms council is too depressed

clever path
#

i ll show it again

#

meanwhile prot

solemn oyster
#

true

#

prot warriors don’t give a fuck man

#

I wish I was at their level

dense brook
#

vote s2

clever path
#

my gf plays mage and she was in a 22 pug with prot paladin and in the evening was telling me how i should reroll fucking tank paladin

#

i felt cheated and betrayed

#

i boosted her

#

i gave her gold

pure socket
#

Sorry brethren

#

I took up the shield

solemn oyster
#

bro prot Paladin

pure socket
#

Offspec arms (since both prot and arms share stats)

solemn oyster
#

that’s rough

#

not even prot warrior

solemn oyster
clever path
#

prot paladin is like my balls, hot and stinky

#

who plays prot paladin

solemn oyster
#

weirdos

clever path
#

who plays paladin

solemn oyster
#

Paladin is the least appealing class fantasy

clever path
#

^^^

#

YES

#

FINALLY

solemn oyster
#

I’m a warrior not because I’m strong but because of the light

true arch
#

bro bro bro bro

clever path
#

Divine storming clowns

true arch
#

lets be real bro

pure socket
#

Paladins have CR!
Give Warriors BL!

true arch
#

warrior isnt even class fantasy

#

its just "soldier"

clever path
#

its a lifestil

true arch
#

which is based

solemn oyster
#

like bro this is why warrior is alpha bro because warrior is CREATINE SNORTING alpha gigachad shit

true arch
#

but lets not kid ourselves

clever path
#

true

solemn oyster
#

yeah

#

better give it bleeds

#

tbh why did they give mountain thane to fury

#

it’s much more arms adjacent

junior gale
#

its because the dwarf duel wielded

sullen basin
#

Colossus and Slayer make more sense for fury

sullen basin
solemn oyster
#

single minded fury

sullen basin
#

Can't arms also dual wield onehanders

junior gale
#

hes an SMF warrior

solemn oyster
#

slayers gonna be cool tho we get to press a lot of bleeds

#

for sure

sullen basin
#

Dual wield for 1h was always a passive it'd be weird if arms couldn't do it

solemn oyster
#

manage bleeds snapshot so with enrage

sullen basin
#

But arms is bleed spec

#

And prot

junior gale
#

I rather Slayer just be pure Execute based

sullen basin
#

Makes sense

#

Give us condemn in slayer

#

100-80 and 35-0 do it

solemn oyster
#

they add legion juggernaut

sullen basin
#

Didn't play legion

true arch
#

u got the class
that shoots fire and ice and shit,
the class that prays and ur hp goes up
the class that does kung fu and gets drunk
the class that spawns a bubble around themselves and hearths out
the class that goes invisible
the class that has pets and keeps dying to mechanics
the class thats literally the avatar
the class thats a zombie and summons like other zombies and shit
the class thats a dragon
the adhd double jump class
the one that plays around with plants and stars and turns into a bear
the soldier

sullen basin
#

What's that

true arch
#

we lost

eternal sundial
#

I bet you both voted for s1 fury

solemn oyster
#

the soldier…

eternal sundial
#

Horrid take

wraith hazel
#

I wanna vote but I can't, I sadge

solemn oyster
#

I voted for arms

#

I’m actually just griefing fury

sullen basin
#

I voted for S3 fury S2 or S3 arms I forgor S3 prot

solemn oyster
sweet vault
sullen basin
#

And S1 mog

wraith hazel
solemn oyster
#

when all the other classes show up to fight because of their powers we pull up with just our mortal humanity

sweet vault
sullen basin
#

Make arms feel like you're playing guts how about that

true arch
#

truuu

solemn oyster
#

so make it that when I play arms my party dies???

sullen basin
#

Yeah it's your bloodlust but only you it's giga and they die

#

Or just like old aura of Ret

true arch
#

tbh the only thing i knw about berserk and guts is that his girl gets kidnapped and he gets forcibly cucked

solemn oyster
#

yeah…

true arch
#

kinda like warrior

sullen basin
#

It's worse than that

steel shard
#

god dammit

sullen basin
#

His child is mutated

steel shard
#

dont vote for the seaons 3 set

#

its so bad

sullen basin
#

Too late frelya

solemn oyster
steel shard
#

get season 2 so we can go back to the fun talents

#

not this dogshit RA annhil build

sullen basin
#

What if guts had two Dragonslayers

solemn oyster
#

you see those

#

that is prot pala player

clever path
#

poem of all poems

chrome plover
#

s3 winning woo

junior gale
#

s3 winning sadge

true arch
#

id hate to play 2 seasons of the same tier bonus in a row ngl

solemn oyster
#

s3 winning Arms

true arch
#

any other classes u guys think might be doing that?

solemn oyster
#

I mean yeah

#

but arms tbg doesn’t matter because all the tier sets are boring

#

I can’t imagine a class that likes their s1

sullen basin
#

S3 winning Bloodthirst

junior gale
solemn oyster
#

other than arms

#

cleave will save the west

junior gale
#

I miss S1 arms M+

true arch
clever path
#

im pretty certain warrior going to be s tier next expac

#

i mean they made first hero talents for warriors

#

come on man

#

thats a sign

solemn oyster
#

I miss SL S4 arms m+…

true arch
#

i miss torghast

solemn oyster
#

Based but only season 4 torghast

true arch
#

no no

true arch
#

first couple of weeks of castle nathria torghast

steel shard
#

why do you not wanna play the AM build

#

why play this shitty RA one

ashen swallow
#

AM was a lot more fun in m+ but I do like the s3 build in raids

fallen ginkgo
#

I hate s3 set just becuz no raging blow

clever path
#

but its more like hopium

#

mixed with copium

dark elbow
#

Have yall calmed down yet

flat river
#

sup guys

stuck bison
#

bro i am seeing vote page people says they vote s3 because they dont want to play spear. what the actuall fuck

flat river
#

OK LET ME COOK

#

so lets say we go SMF instead

fossil hatch
#

s3 winning by discord propaganda

#

xd

wild mural
wild mural
#

It works perfectly

stuck bison
#

you coudl play roar in raids season 2 tho

#

damage difference wasnt to big. same as s3

steel shard
#

?????????

solemn oyster
#

fury Brainrot at its finest tbg

wild mural
#

Impossible to do

junior gale
#

you could play roar > spear the entiretly of DF

wild mural
#

Spear ghey

true arch
#

i play roar rn

#

its like a 1k dps difference

fallen ginkgo
#

Spear and roar are not much of a diff in dmg right now, but when you have s2 set spear is better cuz of the extra crit afaik

true arch
#

oh nooooo

stuck bison
#

what is the coaralation with spear and tier sets KEKW

dark elbow
wild mural
#

Roar on Rashok

fossil hatch
#

1k is 1k

wild mural
terse ether
#

S2 will win

#

Lets be real

steel shard
#

hopefully

junior gale
#

S2 being carried by EU last I heard while NA is S3

steel shard
#

fuck RA build

fallen ginkgo
#

S2 was fun cuz WA cash in sound

terse ether
#

S1 is ra

wild mural
steel shard
#

no

true arch
#

yo guys does anyone know if this bleed damage buff affects the AD trinket?

mossy fox
ocean dragon
#

Spear only mandatory on smold mythic change my mind

steel shard
#

before changes

fossil hatch
#

s1 was ra early

dark elbow
junior gale
mossy fox
#

im still team s2

fallen ginkgo
wild mural
#

I beg

junior gale
terse ether
#

S1 arms yea

#

Agree

wild mural
#

I’m not even voting for arms

silent furnace
#

S2 fury most fun fury this expac

slim pollen
#

Eu here, voted s3. Season 2 felt clunky and season 1 bland. + I've wanted OF back since we lost the atrifacts 😄

fallen ginkgo
mossy fox
#

...or does it

wild mural
#

I want S1 ret, S2 fury, S2 shadow

junior gale
#

We dont play fair we play to win

terse ether
#

OF is just a nostalgia hit

#

Dont fall for it. Boys

#

Cmon

silent furnace
#

How is s2 clunky, if anything s3 is clunky during downtime

fossil hatch
#

OF never the same since legion

fallen ginkgo
#

Of feels bad to press imo its just a red WW

vapid mulch
#

I actually like S3 for both, arms feels a little weak, but I like the feel of it. And fury is fun like this, I’ve never played with Odyns before now

true arch
wild mural
#

Hurricane xan

terse ether
#

Bring back fury BD

terse ether
#

BS

true arch
#

its W

terse ether
#

Bfa fury wins

fossil hatch
#

wild strike fury clear

wild mural
#

Bring back mop ret

grizzled wadi
fossil hatch
#

with reduce on reck on last tier set uff

clever belfry
#

EN fury with ayalas

vapid mulch
# fossil hatch u didnt play s1 early?

I actually rolled off of warrior for DF until Sark, so I didn’t touch S1 at all, I played some arms S2 in keys and then killed sark mythic but that was it

#

Now I’m playing both specs properly

fossil hatch
#

with enrage on berserker uff

stuck bison
#

s3 %45 , s2 %42 come on guys hard vote s2 we can win

ashen swallow
wild mural
#

S2 fury with fyralath and ashk, oce and icon xan

wild mural
#

And brood ring

clever belfry
#

oce and icon are like top 3 most boring trinkets

wild mural
subtle lagoon
wild mural
vapid mulch
#

loot Fyr’Alath, dinar Ashkandur, augury, signet, maybe a stat stick like icon or oce

junior gale
#

Eranog ring with Fyr'alath

wild mural
true arch
#

imagine one of the s4 dungeons is king's rest 🥶

wild mural
vapid mulch
#

Imagine getting Voti rings. My guilds tanks still think they’re tank rings

clever belfry
#

s4 dungs will just be all DF dungeons

#

dont cope

junior gale
#

id imagine S4 dungeons is all DF dungeons

stuck bison
#

woudnt be all DF dungeons ?

junior gale
#

like would be really dumb if they didnt

terse ether
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S1 shadowlands fury with siege breaker

wild mural
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Puzzle box

fossil hatch
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Ruby Life Pools Goated with s1 arms

grizzled wadi
true arch
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its still in my bank boys

vapid mulch
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What was S1 arms?

fossil hatch
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big overall

stuck bison
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BS toast

grizzled wadi
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Geti'ikku peepoBlush

dark elbow
subtle lagoon
vapid mulch
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Oh it was just crit for S1 arms right?

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Literally just 5% crit and dmg?

dark elbow
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Made cleave worth it

steel shard
#

a massive % increase

vapid mulch
steel shard
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not really and gameplay impact but

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it did alot

vapid mulch
#

That’s nice tbf

dark elbow
#

No gimmicks just bigger PP damage

vapid mulch
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I like that

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I don’t mind arms rn tho, just needs a bit of love

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I like pressing SD

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I got tier set like week 1 and was playing arms so I looked like a fucking Chad

true arch
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hacker

dark elbow
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The problem with sudden death is that it doesnt spend rage so you're fucking with Anger Management, arguably the funnest talent of every Warrior

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But yeah big PP damage

true arch
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do u guys remember convergence of fates

cosmic lance
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Vividly

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Convergence and DoS

kindred sequoia
true arch
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the best trinket i've ever used

vapid mulch
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Until then, rampage

errant vessel
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what if dmg and cd of Odyns was increased by 100% but was reduced by Anger Management as well

dark elbow
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I hate S3 Fury because it forces BT spam with its T4 sadge

true arch
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Rampage Bloodthirst Rampage Bloodthirst Rampage Bloodthirst Rampage Bloodthirst Rampage Bloodthirst Rampage Bloodthirst i love s3

storm rune
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I do too

vapid mulch
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Fury is always two buttons lol

true arch
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nope

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it used to be 3 buddy

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learn the class buddy

cosmic lance
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Bring back OG fury

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75% auto attacks

errant vessel
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you're parsing below 50 if you only press BB and Rampage