fury

[zealous condor]

U did in SL

[olive wraith]

Slam/ww/bt are literally filler lol

[solemn oyster]

honestly merciless bonegrinder should be on the class tree next to bladestorm and ravager

[shell flint]

Bonegrinder moment

[solemn oyster]

so that we can return to the based form

[sullen tendon]

how is raging blow not filler

[olive wraith]

S3?

[snow edge]

There is no RB

[olive wraith]

He’s talking s3 has no filler

[shell flint]

Strongly debatable

[solemn oyster]

nah

[sullen tendon]

ah ok

[dense idol]

They all have cooldowns

They cant be pressed always

[sinful spoke]

Thats how u know bro doesnt play the game

[sullen tendon]

your filler is auto attacking

[dense idol]

they arent fillers

[shell flint]

I personally think that gameplay that makes you ignore spending isn’t fun

[sinful spoke]

What is he even yapping about

[fallen grove]

Critcake said s2 team so I ride with the fury goat!

[zealous condor]

FR

[shell flint]

Yeah I voted S2

[weak tartan]

RESPECT

[zealous condor]

fr tho please

next season is a filler season

[shell flint]

Anger Management ftw

[zealous condor]

vote for the fun build

[oblique trail]

Merciless bonegrinder was a shit conduit and it made fury aoe extremely dogshitass boring don't bring it back

[sinful spoke]

Hop of the s2 cope yall

[zealous condor]

if u find this fun ur fucking weird

[sinful spoke]

S3 got a huge lead already ur not winning

[south kayak]

Using Ravager and reck every pack is insane

[clever belfry]

i didnt vote cause blizz is cringe for limiting it to one set

[south kayak]

Helps our aoe

Not this dogshit of

[sinful spoke]

Truer

[zealous condor]

it feels so good to reset reck rav all the time

super fun

[weak tartan]

season 3 folks are raid boomers who loves to afk between gcd its their most enjoyment

[zealous condor]

and timing with 1 min roar

[sullen tendon]

but I hate crit/vers gear

[south kayak]

Why can’t we just use all the tier?

All the tiers

[olive wraith]

Raging blow can be on cd. Is that not filler

[south kayak]

Use s2 for m+

[sinful spoke]

Bro doesnt play the game 💀

[shell flint]

100% agree

[south kayak]

3 for raid

[clever path]

Too much work for blizzard interns to balance around

[dense idol]

Yes, but without Anni WW had no CD

[smoky prawn]

cause most are gonna be playing the one thats the best anyway then, so kinda pointless imo

[olive wraith]

You think spamming ww is good?

[smoky prawn]

thats what i feel if they did it

[solemn oyster]

thats why we bring back furious slash

[south kayak]

Not really

[olive wraith]

Ww does 2 damage

[south kayak]

U can use 2 for m+

And 3 for raid

[solemn oyster]

how tf have u guys not realized that snfory is trolling

just dont engage

[sinful spoke]

@weak tartan go play enhancement shammy

[south kayak]

So different content

[shell flint]

Funny ability tbh

[dense idol]

No, but pressing no button for a GCD or WW for a GCD is better

[smoky prawn]

fair point

[sinful spoke]

Since gcd matters so much to u

[proud portal]

Fuck no

You're honestly trolling

[olive wraith]

Charge weave then. Run out and heroic throw

[solemn oyster]

slam or wild strike

[proud portal]

Fuck Wildstrike/furious slash

[clever belfry]

[proud portal]

get rid of that shit

[oblique trail]

You also trolled by mentioning bonegrinder as peak fury aoe

[solemn oyster]

slam in s3 build is the same thing

[sinful spoke]

Me last season after getting leggo

[olive wraith]

Missing 1 gcd every 30 minutes is nothing lol

[solemn oyster]

there's a difference between trolling and being based

[shell flint]

You say this as if it’s an impossible take for people to enjoy brainless one button AOE

[proud portal]

Sounds good, but it was most stupid and useless ability as a maintence one too have.

[clever belfry]

more if u play bad (most players)

[sullen tendon]

yea just put the wild strike sound onto rampage

[dense idol]

And not stand in Melee range? no thank you

[weak tartan]

ye bro it is every 30sec or so. but sure go lie to your self

[shell flint]

Hell that’s kind of what arms is with the Collateral build now

[solemn oyster]

bladestorm pi recklessness and spin to win baby

[olive wraith]

If it’s every 30 seconds for you. You’re doing it wrong

[shell flint]

Arms and Fury should swap Bladestorm and Ravager tbh

[solemn oyster]

yes

please

[shell flint]

More thematically fitting for Fury to spin like beyblades

[south kayak]

Blizzard doesn’t want warrior to be great in m+ or raid

[solemn oyster]

bladestorm is unironically the worst button ever

[clever belfry]

imo delete arms and add legs instead

[south kayak]

It is what it is guys

[nocturne dragon]

speaking of that let's say for example the S3 set bonus with S2 appearance win. What else do we gain? it's just basically transmog or there will be something more special?

[sullen tendon]

let bladestorm apply gushing wound to targets

[solemn oyster]

you press it and it does no damage

[south kayak]

Play another class

[eternal sundial]

Oi

@clever belfry bei euch auch - 10?

[south kayak]

Warrior sucks

[oblique trail]

It was extremely unfun after the first few keys of doing it, and we'd do it for 2 seasons. Condemn arms spam was unfun after 1 boss in prepatch. 1 button gameplay is just so uninteractive but I get people enjoy this

[clever belfry]

no

mainz is not that cold

[olive wraith]

Idk man I don’t run out of stuff to press

[smoky prawn]

holy shit fellow mainzer in the hood?

[eternal sundial]

Enjoy your summer day then

[shell flint]

I don’t disagree that it’s unfun I’m just saying it’s not a troll opinion because people genuinely do enjoy it

[clever belfry]

Maybe.

[zealous condor]

what lvl of keys are u doing

[solemn oyster]

to be fair, i quit the game in SL S1 and only came back to play s4, so I didn't have time to get burnt out of it. It would make sense if u had to play it for 2 seasons to hate it

[smoky prawn]

based

[clever belfry]

Bro stole my first name
bro stole my city

gg

[smoky prawn]

HAHAH

[olive wraith]

Why does that matter about rotation?

[zealous condor]

cus on big packs

in 26-28s

[clever belfry]

Mainz is on average really warm for Germany

[zealous condor]

u run out of buttons

[eternal sundial]

I will fall and break all my bones on this ice

[zealous condor]

and have to sit there auto attacking

[south kayak]

If you’re getting to the point where you run out of things to press all the time, it’s a you problem

[clever path]

it doesnt if you arent braindead like most paladins and hunters

[zealous condor]

until something comes up

[south kayak]

Sorry not sorry

[clever belfry]

nice u get to skip work then

[olive wraith]

Sounds like you doing something wrong my guy

[zealous condor]

sounds like a question dodger

[solemn oyster]

fury brainrot real

[sullen tendon]

bloodthirst is always on a like 2 second cooldown how are you running out of buttons to press

[shell flint]

The fuck

[smoky prawn]

cant say that for my upcoming lecture in 3 hours

[south kayak]

Guys my buttons just vanish from action bars wtf

[olive wraith]

If you sit on target dummies for 10 minutes you hardly run out of stuff to press

[clever belfry]

what lecture tho

[smoky prawn]

math

[eternal sundial]

I already woke up and left house at 7 day is ruined anyways

[clever belfry]

what math

[zealous condor]

damn homie still dodging the question

[smoky prawn]

math 1

[oblique trail]

Oh no anda hears math he has to know

[olive wraith]

Cause it doesn’t matter what level key. Dummies last forever

[smoky prawn]

or wat

[clever belfry]

No way its just called math 1

[eternal sundial]

Skyhold math meeting aintnoway

[clever belfry]

more specific

[smoky prawn]

no its literally math 1

[south kayak]

He answered your question

[oblique trail]

Yeah but there are subjects to math

[clever belfry]

part of what degree then xd

[smoky prawn]

comp sci

[zealous condor]

no he didnt

[sinful spoke]

Middleschooler?

[clever belfry]

Ah so discrete math

[smoky prawn]

what

[south kayak]

What does it matter what level keys he does ? Lol

[silk wharf]

Are those forum posts in what I asusme is spanish for anyone else? The tier votes?

[shell flint]

No but see if you’re not literally 0.1% 3.5k pusher your opinions are literally worthless /s

[zealous condor]

ah ur 2700 xd

[clever belfry]

That's the subtitle of that course

[south kayak]

It doesn’t have anything to do with your question so it’s idiotic

[zealous condor]

it all adds up

[clever belfry]

Assuming u mean uni and not fh

[smoky prawn]

ok then no im fh

[proud portal]

You got to experience the glory days of S4 fury warrior

[olive wraith]

I can literally go sit on dummies for 10 minutes

[solemn oyster]

i played arms

[clever belfry]

ok then idk your courses

[olive wraith]

And not run out of buttons as often as you’re suggesting

[zealous condor]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapper-yapping-man-old-guy-yapping-keep-yapping-gif-16586719177455162521

[solemn oyster]

i know, the betrayal

[oblique trail]

Wat I'm 2900 score because I don't push but wtf does score have to do with knowing how the class works in aoe and st

[proud portal]

S4 SL fury warrior was broken that blizzard had too nerf us and we still were broken for the pvp season

[oblique trail]

Score argument is so insanely cooked

[proud portal]

💀

[smoky prawn]

its basically oberstufe repetition lol

so its piss ez

[clever belfry]

Fh math moment

[olive wraith]

Nah I’m just dumb and not logical guys

My bad clearly

[magic onyx]

Just checking, if there's anyone left who still wants to vote for S3 fury, or has everyone been taken away already?

[clever belfry]

i have bigger number
therefor me gooder

[south kayak]

What is wrong with you man, doing low keys???

[solemn oyster]

did have a lot of fun switching between both, class slapped in s4 and has been sadge ever since

[shell flint]

Yeah but they’re not gonna agree with that because score’s an easy way to dodge the argument

[south kayak]

Delete game

[zealous condor]

When players that do harder content than u are saying diff things

[solemn oyster]

hey can gamatommy post his character

[zealous condor]

its the same

go look

[proud portal]

Then we back down too earth with worst tier set in S1 DF

[solemn oyster]

idk bro seems to be compensating

[proud portal]

😭

[solemn oyster]

man

[olive wraith]

Do packs in 30s last 20 minutes each?

[solemn oyster]

i played s1 of dragonflight on my warrior

quit

and am back for s3

[proud portal]

I literally went too arms and just pvped for the season

[zealous condor]

if they did we'd be balling

[solemn oyster]

LOL

[shell flint]

Sudden Death proccing constantly was funny but man that was such a bad set

[clever belfry]

L

[proud portal]

S1 arms before the crit nerf was broken af with spear in PVP

[clever belfry]

pvp.

[proud portal]

Literally one shotting people

[olive wraith]

But you said our aoe bad

That doesn’t add up

[clever belfry]

1+1=2

[zealous condor]

[shell flint]

If you go to the wowhead comment section for Spear of Bastion you will find some very concentrated salt

[solemn oyster]

they should've added banner instead of spear

[shell flint]

The moment he started bringing up score you should have disengaged tbh, you’ll never win against someone with this mentality

[solemn oyster]

true

[proud portal]

🙂

[clever belfry]

NUMBER

[shell flint]

S4 Prot Warrior with Banner was such an underrated playstyle

[smoky prawn]

big number big brain wtf??

[olive wraith]

[clever belfry]

dogshit ability tbf

[clever path]

^ so much

this

[zealous condor]

[solemn oyster]

althougj

i'll never forgive htem

[clever belfry]

easy equation

[shell flint]

Beeg numba beeg smort yes?

[solemn oyster]

for forcing me to use the dogshit condemn animation

[clever path]

beeg sheet

[solemn oyster]

fuck the condemn animation

[zealous condor]

we're not talking about the same lvl of content fellas sorry

[solemn oyster]

bro is def overcompensating

[smoky prawn]

whats your level of content youre talking about then

[shell flint]

If I use rage emojis and soyjaks my argument will be superior and you will be wrong

[clever path]

bro pushes +2 and calls it content

[clever belfry]

I'm talking weekly +12s

u?

[zealous condor]

26+

[shell flint]

First time I’ve ever seen this take

[clever belfry]

holy fuck 26!!

[sinful spoke]

Man

[smoky prawn]

so do i and i can tell your fury does not good lol

[clever belfry]

surely untimable as long as people have 2 (two) hands

[sinful spoke]

I only do 15s

[proud portal]

I literally remember condemn animation wasted more time/dps than regular execute lol

[oblique trail]

Condemn looks cool, delayed damage is not cool

[solemn oyster]

should've made that shit a glyph

[sinful spoke]

[zealous condor]

understandable

[solemn oyster]

i hate it so much

[sinful spoke]

Teach me how to do 26s?

[solemn oyster]

and its not being fixed in 10.2.5

[zealous condor]

just press ur buttosn u got it

[clever belfry]

i definetly haven't been in higher keys than 26

[shell flint]

Just don’t take massacre 😂

[zealous condor]

me either im so bad

[solemn oyster]

massacre good for arms :(

[shell flint]

Yeah fair

[zealous condor]

the other guy knows whats up tho

listen to him

[shell flint]

You don’t take it with the Collateral build I think

[smoky prawn]

[proud portal]

It's not like we're going to get any attention in 10.2.5 they didn't touch any of our abilities in buffing or anything

😭

[solemn oyster]

and tbh

to make it better

[clever belfry]

❓
making fun of u aswell king

[solemn oyster]

they could've made the sound effec tbetter

by reverting it

[smoky prawn]

[clever belfry]

ill try to go back to bed gn

[zealous condor]

whatever is in ur bio doesnt make me care all to much lmao

[oblique trail]

🛌

[clever belfry]

unaware of the lore

UNAWARE

[zealous condor]

TRU

[shell flint]

He pulled out the bio

[smoky prawn]

this isnt better LOL

[zealous condor]

ur just not a knower

[solemn oyster]

fury channel cancer tbh

[clever belfry]

bro if u gonna stalk me go all the way x

[zealous condor]

fr

[shell flint]

I was literally about to say

[zealous condor]

4head channel

[fallen grove]

Gammatommy has a point fury definitely plays different in the level of keys you are doing and that’s with most specs u guys trying to argue that’s kinda weird

[solemn oyster]

ur the problem

[zealous condor]

[shell flint]

You’re literally 4head in chief wym

[clever belfry]

cause if we argue with number im the winner in this current discussion

[zealous condor]

sure buddy

[clever belfry]

[zealous condor]

[clever path]

🤡

[sinful spoke]

He doesnt get it

[clever belfry]

Fury was funny this morning

[zealous condor]

[clever belfry]

g

n

[south kayak]

[smoky prawn]

gn

[zealous condor]

[sinful spoke]

Anyways

Anita max wynn

[south kayak]

[wintry tulip]

Gn king, kisses

[smoky prawn]

dude drakes getting zestier with the second

its crazy

[sinful spoke]

Did i see the latest one?

Oh maygaaa

[south kayak]

Sleep time

[sinful spoke]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRcXs4aS/

[smoky prawn]

dude nah

down bad

drake has a different kind of arc rn

[sinful spoke]

He always been zesty

[smoky prawn]

ya but this is peak rn

[zealous condor]

let the guy be unhinged

its great

[smoky prawn]

it all went down hill for the guy with his album

[zealous condor]

all his music is garbo

[sinful spoke]

Not true

[smoky prawn]

L

[sinful spoke]

His old stuff is amazing

[zealous condor]

idek what his old stuff is

im a drake hater

[smoky prawn]

man passionfruit

holy shit

[zealous condor]

gimme an old son

[sinful spoke]

U just seem to have shit taste

[smoky prawn]

that song is just right honestly

[sinful spoke]

In tiersets and music

[oblique trail]

My top 5 artists are drake drake drake drake drake

[smoky prawn]

[zealous condor]

a Drake enjoyer saying words is CRAZY

[sinful spoke]

the THE BANEZIGOAT

[smoky prawn]

now were basing warrior knowledge on music

[zealous condor]

based

[sinful spoke]

I play Beethoven when i raid

U aint moving like me son

[zealous condor]

now thats bussin

[smoky prawn]

für elise x pop smoke

going hard af

[sinful spoke]

Peak ye

back when he was on his meds

[smoky prawn]

actual peak

pop smoke a goner tho

miss him

[sinful spoke]

Rip big pop

[smoky prawn]

wasnt meant to be

[round cedar]

What's the consensus for fury tier next season?

[onyx swallow]

s2

[proud portal]

Split with S2 and S3

[smoky prawn]

vote is going s3 tho as it seems

but im cool with either

[lilac plinth]

What tier we gonna vote

[smoky prawn]

as long as its not s1

[proud portal]

Tho I rather have S3 given it literally needs a minor buff same with S2 if either them go in

Just no S1

Fuck S1

[round cedar]

interesting, i imagined s2 would be in the lead since there was alot of backlash when s3 tier was first announced

[snow edge]

The power gain from S3 has swayed a lot of people I imagine

[proud portal]

Until people actually tried it and it's bit lower than S2 AOE pulls but not much like 2-3% difference

and yeah

Power from S3 tier set is massive

[sinful spoke]

S3 gameplay is looked down uppon but its the only reason we do so much dmg single target compared to the past

[snow edge]

We’re in a good place in raid

Relative to S2

[proud portal]

For fury? This is best place in raid we had all this expansion

we're beating ARMS

ARMS

[snow edge]

I literally said we’re in a good place

[proud portal]

I am saying this is best place fury ever has been all this expansion

we were bottom of totem pole in S1 and only jumped up 2-4 places in S2

[eternal sundial]

Because arms is definitely a real spec that does damage

[oblique trail]

I will roll a dice and roll 1 to 3 because I won't be playing fated anyway

Gl to whatever set wins

[thorny sparrow]

Users were trying to make builds that forced it to include Ravager ir Onslaught because the idea of dropping Ravager made them caremad

They couldn't see a fury build without ravager

I'd vote for s2 if it was the s2 from beta

But I do not want a weak aura to play my spec again

[eternal sundial]

Go s1 appearance

[lofty delta]

I'd rather take season2 cause fuck annihilator. Already bored of this sleepy rotation

[eternal sundial]

Do u play the game

[snow edge]

This argument blows my mind every time

[lofty delta]

Ye 6/9M, this rotation is slower than last season

[olive wraith]

It’s not though

Same apm

[covert void]

how is this season a sleepy rotation when previous seasons you literally press one button burst macro 😂

at least you have to split stuff this season

[clever path]

i think they play paladin and mistakenly took it for arms warrior

[proud portal]

S2 apperance but with full black armor set

Boom

[lofty delta]

CDR on reck is way better than a 1:30 cd

[thorny sparrow]

People think that bloodthirsty spam is inferior to raging blow spam

Even though you're just pressing buttons

[eternal sundial]

Rb spam and bt spam is the same shit

[covert void]

yeh😂

[thorny sparrow]

He'll my raging blow button is my slam button

[proud portal]

At the same speed too so lol

[thorny sparrow]

It's macro'd

If slam hurts your soul just cover it with raging blow

[covert void]

I haven't actually seen many genuine reasons why people dislike this seasons build. it's either omagawd dh's are stronger than us. or they have times where they don't press anything and likely their fault anyways.

[eternal sundial]

If anything it's the lack of CDs for every pack in keys

It's a different vibe being a static CD class

[covert void]

? OF is available a lot of the time

[eternal sundial]

First time since bfa(?)

[eternal sundial]

Doesnt compare to reck rav 1 min roar

[sinful spoke]

Rb ramp rb ramp rb ramp rb ramp?

[zealous condor]

OF Dam is very poor

[snow edge]

If our tier set BTs cleaved that’d be a big boost

[thorny sparrow]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:383916] Slam; Raging Blow

[eternal sundial]

Yep

[zealous condor]

If you send that on a large pull in M+ you’ll most likely be competing with the tank

[proud portal]

AOE wise it's not really that bad but in general needs a buff hasn't been touched since S1

[zealous condor]

If they give us class balance in the coming patch that’d be good

But I can’t see it happening

[proud portal]

If they give us any attention at all that'd be good too

[covert void]

we're literally good though?! I don't get it 😂

[proud portal]

😭

[oblique trail]

I think this season rotation is just okay. Not bad not good. It's fine that it's different to the usual 1 button spam and you Weave instead, but I dont like having CDR tied to critting, and would rather have lower but consistent CDR. Idc if we use slam it's literally just raging blow with a cd

[hardy cargo]

they already said (according to archi) they will do a tuning pass at all the tier sets

[zealous condor]

B tier at best

[weary summit]

hey guys, was wondering if someone can take a loot at my sim and see if there is anything i can fix gear wise, im in single target talents.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/p27xqUhRz1MMARS3Vfjg4g

i know i have to chase trinkets still, but looking to see if maybe my stats are messed up or something. thank you for the help!

[thorny sparrow]

The best fury was was s2 beta, but it was too good

Also it had BT spam

[smoky prawn]

nuh uh

[olive wraith]

S3 beta was pog

But people complied about 2 button spec

[thorny sparrow]

Season 2 beta tier didn't need the oh yeah rampage x times just to bt

Nope just bt a tonne and watch crits pop

[zealous condor]

This one performs better so

[oblique trail]

Having 2 empowered bbs for the price of 1 stack was degen and had to be fixed

[eternal sundial]

2 back to back 5 max stack bloodcrazes > no of for spears xdd

[zealous condor]

That’s all that matters

[oblique trail]

The change was overall just way better

[thorny sparrow]

What should be changed is the OF capstone. The choice of 30% AA vs four stacks of whirlwind is no choice at all

[oblique trail]

Mostly the reason for my complaint

Hate not being able to reliably know if I can press my of and have it ready or not, and miss of by a few globals

[olive wraith]

I wouldn’t mind titanic getting buffed for a clear aoe boost

[zealous condor]

Still wouldn’t run it

[snow edge]

It’s also a damage buff to OF

but yeh

[zealous condor]

Dancing blades would still be better

[olive wraith]

It’s not as good as db though

[snow edge]

DB still poge

[zealous condor]

Uncap the tierset and maybe

But still prob not

[thorny sparrow]

The problem is also of circumstance, there's only three fights in raid where cleave really really matters, and council the cleave is reliant in tanks. So you have Larry whose cleave is very sporadic and Timmy whose cleave is brambles that die instantly anyway.

[dense elbow]

Uncap OF, and give it Fire dam, and we fine till tier leaves, and OF will need a 51% baseline buff

[eternal sundial]

At least arms let's me manually fix that

If i want wb for an add set i just ignore op for a bit cuz that's surely better

[olive wraith]

This would be a m+ change only. In raid db is always the clear choice

[snow edge]

It’s fine having an M+ v Raid choice, so that’d be ok

[zealous condor]

Even in M+

DB is massively better

[atomic nymph]

Just make cleaved BB crits give cdr on OF as well

[zealous condor]

It’s not even close

[snow edge]

They’re saying if they changed / buffed the capstone bro

Not in its current state

[zealous condor]

It wouldn’t matter

[snow edge]

Ok my dude

[zealous condor]

Unless they made it like 50% increased damage

[thorny sparrow]

I use dB on tyrannical week and torment in fortified week

[zealous condor]

You’d still take dancing blades in keys

[eternal sundial]

Bosses exist on fort

[olive wraith]

This is exactly why I’m saying make titanic the clear aoe choice

[snow edge]

This man has a crystal ball and knows no change could make it better

[short spire]

can u get the legend axe in ur vault?

[thorny sparrow]

Yeah and if bosses are a struggle without dB on fort week you have bigger problems

[nocturne dragon]

no baki

[oblique trail]

If you believe hard enough

[nocturne dragon]

that is a quest drop I think not insta weapon

[zealous condor]

What can they do that actually make that happen

[oblique trail]

Maybe it'll appear

[short spire]

wdym not killing fyraak every week?

[zealous condor]

Cus unless they do something absolutely absurd, it won’t change anything

[short spire]

there is a quest?

[thorny sparrow]

The axe needs another buff at this point. Or another 30 ilvls. Sonething.

[zealous condor]

And even then you’d only maybe take it on fortified weeks

[atomic nymph]

When you drop the weapon, it's not a equipable weapon, it starts a quest line which in turn rewards the legendary

[oblique trail]

Kill fyrakk on highest difficulty each week and loot it or not. Only way to get the quest item to start the quest line

[short spire]

so i just gotta kill fyrak until i ge a quest?

[nocturne dragon]

like lindwar said

[short spire]

or whats the quest

[nocturne dragon]

yes

kill fyrak and hope for the quest

[eternal sundial]

You just save more time by doing more st and prio dam

[short spire]

maybe i have it and idk

whats the quest called

[eternal sundial]

The tiny gain in aoe isnt worth it

[oblique trail]

Nah you for sure know if you have it

[atomic nymph]

The axe itself is fine, they just need to make the active feel better. Even just making it a 1s channel instead of a 3s one, with same damage would be a welcomed change

[zealous condor]

It wouldn’t fix anything

[short spire]

bruh i think i have it lol

[olive wraith]

Idk what they would do. That’s not for me to figure out.

[short spire]

this?

[atomic nymph]

You still drop the legendary, it just isnt equipable. It starts a quest

[oblique trail]

You loot the literal axe from fyrakk

[nocturne dragon]

no

[oblique trail]

That's the raid skip quest

[zealous condor]

And that’s my entire point, again unless they do something fucking CRAZY, ur suggestion changes nothing

[short spire]

bruh i got excited for a sec lol

i read legend weapon

[olive wraith]

I just said make it better for aoe? Even without DB our st is still pretty good

[oblique trail]

As I said you know for sure if you have it, because you have to loot the literal axe first to get it

[junior gale]

Bruh I woulda voted to ban this guy if he got lego and didnt even know

[thorny sparrow]

Replace the 2s channel with the 3s channel from nighthold draught of souls trinket unnerfed

[short spire]

can it drop from, any difficulty or just hc?

[atomic nymph]

Referring to smolderons weapon

[oblique trail]

Any

[thorny sparrow]

Problem solved

[eternal sundial]

DB bc gains like 4% if not more in st for m+ build

It's WILD how good the 2 are

[oblique trail]

Just kill him on the highest difficulty you can and you're fine

[thorny sparrow]

All fury warriors loved draught of souls

[zealous condor]

Everything else you say about it, reread what I said

[short spire]

well im busy getting 3.2k rating on arcane i complelty left my fury so if i did get the axe and i didnt know i would ban myself

[short spire]

but the question is if it drops or not

if it does drop il jus do every diffculty every week

[oblique trail]

And we said multiple times

You get the literal axe from him

It drops

And you loot it

[short spire]

in any difficulty??? thats the quetion\

question*

[oblique trail]

Bro

Yes

[junior gale]

LMAO

[oblique trail]

I will hit you soon

[short spire]

hit me since i lost focus on the chat 4 times

[short spire]

i had to ask it again

pleae bare i have adhd

[olive wraith]

Again it’s not up to us to come up with how it changes. They could make it like divine toll and have it cast every second for 5 seconds. Obv that won’t happen, but all I’m saying is make titanic the definite aoe button

[nocturne dragon]

we can't bare 😄

[olive wraith]

Much like TR is aoe and spear is st

[zealous condor]

I’m not asking you to come up with a suggestion, I’m simply saying whatever they do does not matter

No AOE increase would not be worth taking over DB

[oblique trail]

Just kill him on highest difficulty since it counts for that and all below it at once so you save time. Either you loot it and can start the quest line or you wait for next week and try again.

[zealous condor]

Sorry

[olive wraith]

Why wouldn’t it matter. If you want aoe pick the talent. That’s s3 only shortcoming in m+ according to you

[short spire]

i cant believe you answered me for the 100th time xD thank you man

[olive wraith]

Majority of the other classes sacrifice st for aoe damage

[zealous condor]

I literally said it would maybe be taken on fort week

But even then fury doesn’t excel in AoE

So you may as well take the prio damage

And run dancing blades

[eternal sundial]

Capped frogs when dh or Outlaw

[olive wraith]

That’s why I’m saying change it lmao

[zealous condor]

Even if they do

It won’t

Matter

Unless they do something insane

[olive wraith]

Doesn’t have to be insane

[zealous condor]

It does

[olive wraith]

Just enough to not exclusively pick db

[zealous condor]

You don’t know what ur on about please stop

[eternal sundial]

Spear would be good if it did x4000% damage

[olive wraith]

I mean you don’t have logic so I guess I’ll stop

[zealous condor]

Please do

Just stop

[atomic nymph]

Realistically it doesnt have to be that insane as it's tuned around a 45s cd. If they keep the current 2set which brings it down to 25s- ish, a sufficient damage amp would make it good enough. But currently the issue is 10% is too low and the ww stacks + enrage doesn't change your rotation.

If they reworked those 2 factors to be more beneficial, it would be useable, so you can't keep going "It wont matter unless they do anything crazy"

it doesnt have to be crazy, just needs to suit the build better

[zealous condor]

Even if they made it 50%

[olive wraith]

Hmmmm a thoughtful response amazing

[zealous condor]

It wouldn’t be worth outside of a fort week

But even then

fury ain’t that good for AoE

[snow edge]

It doesn’t have to be a damage amp specific to OF

[zealous condor]

So ur better off

Running DB

In this hypothetical world

[errant vessel]

Idk I think 50% would be pretty big

[zealous condor]

It would that’s my point

[paper ivy]

A Question, I’ve seen you answering many questions here, mines included. I’m just curious if u work for blizzard?

[zealous condor]

It’d have to be an insane dam increase

Liek 50%

[gilded pawn]

no

his dad does

[atomic nymph]

You're way too pigeon-holed into what the talent currently is. He's literally stating that if they change it, it would be better. And you're just repeating "It has to be a massive change, they wont do that, it doesnt matter"

[eternal sundial]

He's just bored

[gilded pawn]

hes on a bus to school right now

he has nothing better to do

[oblique trail]

I'm in bed

But the latter is correct

[paper ivy]

I appreciate what he does

[gilded pawn]

can i be in bed with you

uwu

[smoky prawn]

:O

[oblique trail]

Ayo

[paper ivy]

^_^

[eternal sundial]

Im at my lecture hall and it's started 30 mins ago and the lecturer isnt here yet

[zealous condor]

Im saying IF they do that, it’ll have to be a massive change

[smoky prawn]

average experience

[eternal sundial]

Sure loved leaving house at - 9C° for this

[olive wraith]

[eternal sundial]

Yesterday he insisted we were doing the course in person cuz the strike wouldnt be until tomorrow

[smoky prawn]

bet he got stuck himself

haha

[eternal sundial]

Probably

[atomic nymph]

"Whatever they do does not matter, no aoe is more worth than DB"

Now means

"It'll have to be massive"

[smoky prawn]

thats funny actually

i hope my math lecture happens today, we got exams coming up

and im not feelin it

[zealous condor]

Please go raid what else I said

I have tried to restate it

So many times

To get through but it doesn’t matter lmao

[odd whale]

This is what I think they should do. 1) allow all 3 tier sets from each season to drop 2) add boots as a tier set slot 3) allow mix/matching, you could run 4 set + 2 set from 2 different seasons or decide to run 2+2+2 if you wanted. They should go crazy/fun for the fated season

[smoky prawn]

please no

[zealous condor]

That’d be so good

[atomic nymph]

Anywhere i've seen you say something, you're going on about them having to do something ABSOLUTELY crazy. Please tell me where you didn't state that, as it's not what you're getting across

Scrolled like 20 messages, all are the same thing

[zealous condor]

Keep going

I’m not gonna sift through it

It’s not worth the headache at this stage

To argue over a hypothetical

[olive wraith]

Same. Right now DB is the clear choice. All I’m saying is make titanic equal to that choice in aoe situations. So you have the choice of a aoe/st capstone. It doesn’t have to be miles ahead of db. Just equal in terms of aoe

You haven’t said anything new

[zealous condor]

Maybe that’d be great

[olive wraith]

Neither have I

[zealous condor]

Good suggestion pal 👍

[smoky prawn]

[gilded pawn]

honestly its not that hard

if it was 20-25%

it would work fine in aoe

[zealous condor]

Right let’s so they do that

You’d maybe only take that for a fort week

[gilded pawn]

ok thats fine

[sullen dove]

ok

[gilded pawn]

now it has a niche

[sullen dove]

yea

[gilded pawn]

we did it

[sullen dove]

who cares

[zealous condor]

And even then you don’t excel in AoE

So why not just take DB and do better prio

[sullen dove]

why not reroll meta and do better prio

and aoe

[gilded pawn]

and st

and utility

and bres

[zealous condor]

U right

[sullen dove]

[gilded pawn]

and lust

[sullen dove]

we love our utility buzzword

[zealous condor]

And do all affixes

[atomic nymph]

Like titanic is taken in over 15% of keys on subcreation. That spans 4 weeks, 27's and up. Talent isn't miles and miles behind DB.

If they made the WW / Odyns enrages you parts into 2 things that are actually useful, talent would prob see play on every Fort week.

That's not an outlandish change, and we've reached the desired result

[smoky prawn]

why take of at all

[zealous condor]

Don’t need it

Just use lego ez

[sullen dove]

bring back onslaught

[smoky prawn]

play ashen jugg and just st aoe sucks anyway

[zealous condor]

So huge

[olive wraith]

The only thing we’re lacking is aoe. So buff aoe. But you’re complaining about an aoe buff saying it’s only useful for fort

Like wut

[zealous condor]

Bro…

[eternal sundial]

Damage makes u play a spec in real keys nothing else

[vestal ice]

Not really, for example pressing recklessless everypack feels much better than the stupid reckless abandon where even the best players are left with empty GCD sometimes

[zealous condor]

But hey as the pros in this disc have said

Skill issue

Best fury warrs in the world are wrong

[south kayak]

Let me just go to my job at blizzard and buff fury aoe

Oh wait

[vestal ice]

lol i guess Critcake is also having skill issues then

[zealous condor]

Yup

[oblique trail]

In AoE regardless of how good or bad you are, you can run out of buttons

It happens on ST too, but less frequent

[zealous condor]

Nah the 4heads in here know better

He can hit the training dummies for 10 mins and not run out

[proven quiver]

based alpha males

[zealous condor]

He’s the goat

[proven quiver]

which tier set to vote for?

it's s3 right?

[oblique trail]

The one my dice lands on

[south kayak]

None of them

[vestal ice]

dude i don't want to be rude but this and ARMs discord now feel like fanboi RP discords tghat just care abt BIG MS crits and DMG

ARMS atleast had S1 tier with good flexibility, so many routes were viable

[south kayak]

Warriors are the stockholm syndrome specs

No one cares about them

[eternal sundial]

S1 arms was pre tree fix and only had 2 options with the m+ build doing prepatch level st

[south kayak]

Blizz doesn't want to buff them

[eternal sundial]

So they cant compare it properly

[vestal ice]

Lookat FURY, non excistent S1 tier, S2 was ok but forced u to go raging blow, S3 was ok but forced u to take Annhilator, so the TREE was a SCAM

[clever path]

what

[gilded pawn]

arms s1 tier was doing either no ST or no AOE

[eternal sundial]

S1 played super nicely

For fury

[gilded pawn]

fury S2 did not force you to go raging blow

[hushed ocean]

i really think warrior (at least fury) is the more balanced spec. We're average everywhere.

[clever path]

arms is playing the same build

[gilded pawn]

at all

[clever path]

entire expac

[vestal ice]

yes i agree, its still kinda not happy but but that was tree issue not TIER set

[clever path]

wow s1 arms tierset

[gilded pawn]

the tier was just solid

and nothing interest

[clever path]

most boring shit ever

[gilded pawn]

possibly one of the most boring tiers in the game

[vestal ice]

wait i am guessing u S3 tier fan?

[gilded pawn]

s3 had some interactions with the kit

[vestal ice]

S3 ARMS tier is a joke of a design lol

[gilded pawn]

s1 was just "get a damage buff for doing your rotation"

[fossil hatch]

Vote s2 fury and s1 Arms ty

[oblique trail]

A tier set that doesn't influence your rotation at all is just bad

[south kayak]

you know what's bad

warrior

[young swan]

its better than the t29 and t30 lmfao

[south kayak]

^

[oblique trail]

Ok go back to rogue then

[south kayak]

I am bing chilling on rogue

[gilded pawn]

already on it

[south kayak]

I just like to doom sometimes

[olive wraith]

Arms has ass gameplay. Cosmetic rage

[vestal ice]

From a design standpoint, not really, u get proc and suddenly ur whole spec thats supposed to optimize raze consumption gets thrown out the window, it doesnt even hit super hard, a fury warrior can out dps that with minimal effort

[olive wraith]

I think s3 tier is cool though

[zealous condor]

[south kayak]

S3 tier is good

it's just the baseline fury that's dog ass

[north geyser]

so what set bonus we voting for boys

[south kayak]

None of them

[zealous condor]

2

[south kayak]

we play without tier

[zealous condor]

Based

[clever path]

yes i just wish it had interactions with the rest of the spec

[north geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[clever path]

mostly tom

[clever path]

we havent been optimizing rage since early 9.1

[olive wraith]

I don’t want s2 cause I don’t want to play the same build for 3/4 of the season

[clever path]

whats your point

[south kayak]

imagine if outlaw rogue doesn't get season 3 tier set

[oblique trail]

That is just not true

[north geyser]

maybe I'm just bad at the game but I have lots of dead globals with S3 bonus so I think I'll vote 2 or maybe 1? idk

[gilded pawn]

Can’t even tell you what the tier does

Been following hekili the whole time

[south kayak]

Well, it is going to be pretty bad without the season 3 tier set

Since it makes your RTB way better and less rng

[wise nacelle]

Fckin agree, loved that Fae arm with that ability in M+

[true arch]

okay boys so clearly we're voting this right?

good 2 know

[south kayak]

I think the current one looks better for transmog

[vestal ice]

till this S3, there have been very few occasions when I got rage capped, and If I did , i could have done something to avoid that, basically a mistake. Now ofcourse there are still places when u are rage capped but thats due to shitty TREE and nothing to do with tier. But after S3 ARMS tier, rage bar? fuck that. NOTE: I am just exagerrating some points 😄

[olive wraith]

Kinda like s1 mog

[south kayak]

but that doesns't matter sincei have them all

anyway

[true arch]

do we know if they're bringing back pvp appearances?

[olive wraith]

S1 pre .5 we ignored rage

[true arch]

yo isnt archimitiros the wowhead guy?

[olive wraith]

Yes he is

[true arch]

yooooo

[south kayak]

Yeah, he is our theorycrafter

[true arch]

sign my kids dude

[south kayak]

based fellow

[south kayak]

[clever path]

yeah u are rage capping cause u are not spamming ip/tc on cd

[edgy widget]

Titanic is honestly as good if not better than DB for most players; a handful of people actually doing high end keys where some extra ST matters may use it, but others will get better mileage out of Titanic since it's easier to use and slightly better AoE

[north geyser]

what's db?

[edgy widget]

sites like subcreation do have something of a self propagating problem though

[clever path]

dancing blades

[olive wraith]

Dancing blades

[clever path]

doesnt subcreation only look at logged runs

[zealous condor]

It was a hypothetical discussion

[odd star]

archimtiros, how to use db, if I press avatar when odyns fury avatar is falling off i observed my db is not getting extra 10s, more like 8s

[clever path]

thats how you play it

[olive wraith]

You lose some db uptime

[clever path]

you lose uptime

[edgy widget]

I'm just sayin

[oblique trail]

You dont play around db at all

[olive wraith]

It’s more about of bleed

[oblique trail]

Its just a passive bonus that's there

[odd star]

i see thanks for answers guys

[edgy widget]

DB is kind of a special case - it rolls over up to 4s of the original duration, not the whole thing

you won't be able to maximize it without significant delay, so we don't bother - we just delay it a little to game some of the duration

• for example, if you hit OF + Ava immediately, you get 14s of buff (10 overwritten by a new 10, rolling 4s of the original buff forward)

Obviously that's not as good as 20s of buff, but waiting 6s during burst is a long time, so instead we try to refresh it around the time the initial 4s Avatar buff from OF is falling off

• this means our original 10s buff now has ~6s left and 4s of that will roll forward, meaning we only lose 2s instead of 6, for a total of ~18s of buff time
• it also ensures you won't overwrite the OF DoT

[astral path]

you have to be joking s2 looks so bad compared to s1

[zealous condor]

Ur only really wanting to play around the of dot anyway

[edgy widget]

well it's both, just to a degree

[atomic nymph]

Yeah, this is what I mean. If DB was so superior to titanic in every situation, as posed in the hypothetical, we wouldn't be seeing this. But for players that are paying attention to being enraged and keeping up WW stacks, the talent feels lackluster when 2 of the elements are kind of... meh. Changing those around would encourage more choice for all types of players

[odd star]

mmm whats the problem of overwriting the of dot, i thought it just renewed the dot

we want to let it fall off then put it again?

[edgy widget]

I don't disagree; Titanic could be a little better, though jumpstarting the rotation the way it does is still nice functionality

[zealous condor]

It makes ur opener less clunky

[edgy widget]

the DoT, like most, pandemics - so it also only extends up to a certain amount (30%) of the duration

iirc it's a 4s DoT (?), and it pandemics ~1s, so if you hit OF + Ava together, it'll give you a 5s DoT

If you use them separately, you can instead get up up to 8s of DoT time

[olive wraith]

Rn titanic just feels like qol and not “let me pick this for a noticeable aoe gain”

[edgy widget]

it's a little of both - if you consistently hit multiple targets, the AoE gain does add up

[odd star]

in aoe, is the space of 4 gcds (2 rampage, 2 bb from standard opener) enough to be sure im not overwriting the dot?

[zealous condor]

In like 20s it doesn’t matter what so ever

[gilded pawn]

It’s 1% over db in 5t5m

[edgy widget]

it is

[zealous condor]

But DB in higher keys is way too good to ever want to give up

[edgy widget]

which is not a ton, but not negligable either

[odd star]

im doing the same 4 gcds between of and avatar in st too so I think im fine

in that regard

[zealous condor]

ST in keys matters too

[edgy widget]

if you're on a fight like Tindral, where you're basically always using OF against multiple targets, it goes even higher

[zealous condor]

Ur still never taking it tho lmao

[odd star]

thanks for the answers archimtiros

[edgy widget]

it does, and I'm not saying that DB is inherently bad in keys... but for the majority of players, TR will be outright stronger in most cases, both for ease of use and in terms of raw damage

[zealous condor]

Yeah I mean

[gilded pawn]

Just need to also ensure you don’t lose your avatar

[south kayak]

Fury's ST in keys is already pretty good

[zealous condor]

If ur just doing 20s it’s whatever

[edgy widget]

that's not entirely true - a lot of early kills used DB because they severely stacked DH+Lock and the ST check was tighter

[gilded pawn]

You don’t want to be casting bbs without avatar

[edgy widget]

but honestly, TR is way better for the fight as a whole

[zealous condor]

For tindral?

[edgy widget]

in terms of damage and how quickly you can get your burst out without setup

[errant vessel]

When using Titanic do you spend that one BB without Avatar buff up to maximize WW stacks?

[gilded pawn]

No

[edgy widget]

na, Avatar more important

[atomic nymph]

6 out of the top 100 mythic tindral logs use TR, 16 out of the top 100 on hc use TR. It's not as clear as one may think, esp when a lot of people will just copy the rank 1's talents or suggested builds

[errant vessel]

I’d imagine that changes with target count?

[edgy widget]

TR is outright more damage, full stop

there's not even a question

[zealous condor]

It’s pad if anything

[edgy widget]

that may be true, but we weren't qualifying that - only raw damage

[errant vessel]

Dmg is dmg

[clever path]

i mean

they have to die

[charred ledge]

S3 tier set? Seriously?

[atomic nymph]

Is there even a thing such as pad on tindral mythic? Roots have to die, or you do

[edgy widget]

as I said, most of the early kills ended up using DB because they had more stacked comps for killing roots and the ST check was tighter than it is now

[zealous condor]

Settle down the goon squad will come for you

Can’t be a s2 tier set enjoyer around these parts

[edgy widget]

you can, you just shouldn't be shitty about it

[odd star]

in aoe too? i think in 4 gcds my avatar is down, i was strictly following the wowhead opener which stated rampage > bb > rampage > bb > avatar in aoe opener

[charred ledge]

Fuck season 3 tier set 🙂

[zealous condor]

Based

[flat sapphire]

I like season 3 tier set not the looks but how it works feels fun

[edgy widget]

there's a way to express a dissenting opinion without coming across as a dbag about it

[gilded pawn]

Yes you need to ensure avatar is up throughout your cds

[flat sapphire]

Season 2 I like too

[clever path]

legit noone ever stopped you from enjoying whatever, just pushing your ||shitty|| opinion onto someone else isnt good in any way

[true arch]

what u dont like rampage, bloodthirst, rampage, bloodthirst, rampage, bloodthirst, rampage, bloodthirst?, this spec just peaked

[still swift]

I miss raging blows team

[flat sapphire]

Oh yea raging blow exists

[olive wraith]

How is that diff from rb-ramp

[edgy widget]

yes, in both cases you should use Avatar as the initial buff is falling - you can even use it slightly early, but there's no reason to use it so early that you needlessly lose a WW stack or buff time

[flat sapphire]

Already forgot about it

[errant vessel]

Opposed to pressing Rampage, Raging Blow,…

[hybrid cloud]

Without raging blow, it seems incredibly clunky

[south kayak]

Very hard for people

[odd star]

will have to hit the dummies and workout when to press ava then, prob depends on haste

[hybrid cloud]

Just bring back Legion fury warrior PLEASE

[true arch]

because u press raging blow twice 😉

[edgy widget]

you actually didn't in most of the S2 rotation

[true arch]

idk i didnt play s2

[edgy widget]

because Reck uptime was so high, you usually went RB -> Rampage -> RB

[still swift]

rb is a more consistent filler and doesn't create small gaps in hitting buttons sometimes

[south kayak]

During reck, you only use Raging blow once

[hybrid cloud]

aww I can't share videos? 😦

[true arch]

but this has been the most brain dead fury season ive played

[errant vessel]

My brother in christ

[edgy widget]

until you have to press WW

[still swift]

hate standing still auto attacking for a gcd time without pressing

[zealous condor]

It just feels better prioritising rampage

[odd star]

i see, ty, i was prob letting avatar fall off in half my burst windows

[edgy widget]

which is ironic considering its more complicated than S1 or S2

[errant vessel]

Big agree

[olive wraith]

I like actually thinking about my rage

[edgy widget]

I don't really think about rage much, you mostly just wait for Rampage to light up lol

but you do have more short cooldowns to keep track of

and more buttons to weave

[zealous condor]

In s3?

[edgy widget]

yes

demonstrably so

[still swift]

fury enrage should be reworked to be something you need to play around not be a maintenance buff

[charred ledge]

How?

[olive wraith]

Cooldown management

[zealous condor]

That is the most boiling hot take I have ever seen

Holy good god

[hushed ocean]

bring back MOP fury blizz plz !

[edgy widget]

#fury message

[zealous condor]

Speechless

[errant vessel]

S2 and S1 had nearly no optimizations compared to this season

[odd star]

wasnt it like this in legion?

[errant vessel]

Dealing good dmg with this tier set is easier though

[edgy widget]

I'm gonna remind you of this part real quick, because you're coming dangerously close to that line
#fury message

[south kayak]

No, it was the exact same thing in Legion

[errant vessel]

Because if you were clueless you wouldn’t deal dmg past seasons

[still swift]

absolutely no clue I don't play war a lot

[clever path]

i stg

if s3 wins

[odd star]

i was very bad at the game in legion and I mained rogue so I prob just played fury completely wrong

[clever path]

im gonna be so mad

give me s2

[true arch]

😂 😂 😂

[clever path]

it will win

am

so might as well just alt f4 delete

s3 tier is one of the worst m+ tiersets ive played with

idk i hate not having am in m+

[olive wraith]

I think the biggest issue is we have no idea what tuning they have in mind

[clever path]

ret just does more dmg on every single pack

no it doesnt lol

unless it has lege

[edgy widget]

• In S3, Bloodthirst, Slam, and Whirlwind all have cooldowns
• In S2, Raging Blow has charges (though they're very constant in most cases), Bloodthirst has a cooldown but you never use it that often, and Whirlwind has no cooldown

S3 is demonstrably more complicated due to having to keep track of more things - that doens't mean that it is very complicated, but it is inherently so

becuase you do need to juggle those cooldowns

[still swift]

my guildie also votes for fury s3

it's sad

[south kayak]

S3 fury would be the option to choose for me if they buffed OF or made every single BB cleave hit for full damage from the 2p

[zealous condor]

The season 2 playstyle of trying to line up 1 min roar with ur reck rav resets is a bit more intuitive imo

[clever path]

who would have thought that people who play warrior cant manage 2 cd's

[clever path]

yes it does ret has 1 min cds and better aoe we just shit on them on st

[edgy widget]

especially with high Reck uptime, you virtually chain RB and Rampage, with the occasional Onslaught, Bloodthirst, or Execute, without end - you can't do that with S2

[hard relic]

am enjoying more s3 set on raid but its atrocious on m+

[errant vessel]

Just apply cdr to all crits

[south kayak]

Otherwise I'm not even gonna vote at all lol

[olive wraith]

S3 needs more aoe buffs. S2 need st buff. S1 needs god

[zealous condor]

This tierset you’re simply dumping your 1.5s and waiting

In m+ specifically

[south kayak]

Archim, how strong would the tier piece be for AoE if each BB hit crit counted for the CDR?

[still swift]

what's s1

didn't play war back then

[edgy widget]

Not sure if that's the word you meant to use, as "intuitive" would suggest it's easier

[clever path]

get bloodcraze = hit OF more often = be happy

[south kayak]

Doesn't matter, it's dogass

[atomic nymph]

Sontek based

[clever path]

2p exe critchance increased by 25%

4p sd chance increased

[still swift]

lol

[clever path]

it was really fun to play it was just dogshit

[hard relic]

holy fuck fam how are you doin

been a while

[edgy widget]

and S3's playstyle also has alignment questions to worry about, such as Odyn's Fury misaligning from your 1.5ms

[clever path]

cause u played aj

[edgy widget]

it's not incredibly different

[zealous condor]

Prob the wrong word English isn’t first language

[olive wraith]

S1 played fine. Damage was bad though

[clever path]

and it never fell off

[edgy widget]

the only real hard part about S2 playstyle is ensuring that your BT maxes out its crit during Spear

[still swift]

that's arms tier and a half

[south kayak]

Yeah, that's how it was

[true arch]

slam and whirlwind are just fillers though with different priorities and ur literally specced into auto casting raging blow instead of manually doing it, the main gameplay just feels like "do what u can until rampage lights up, then follow up with bloodthirst"

[zealous condor]

In raid sure

[edgy widget]

but the vast majority of the general rotation is autopilot, and waiting for the buff to reach 100%

[zealous condor]

But this one doesn’t even have anything remotely close to that

[clever path]

s3 is the better tierset in raid without a doubt

but in m+

[edgy widget]

remotely close to what?

Spear?

[zealous condor]

Trying to have a fully charged bloodthirst for ur spear

You just slam the buttons man

[clever path]

wdym trying

[edgy widget]

well now, but as I said, you do have cooldowns to juggle

[south kayak]

They should let us choose between tiers for different types of content in season 4

[olive wraith]

Anni replaces raging blow

[edgy widget]

you also have timing issues with OF desyncing from your 1.5m

lemme put it another one

[odd star]

I never have purposefully aligned spear and bloodthirst guaranteed crit from s2, god bless

[zealous condor]

I mean in a build where you literally reset ur buttons

[true arch]

ya, thats what i mean

[zealous condor]

How do you not have buttons to juggle

[edgy widget]

reset what buttons?

[charred ledge]

In m+ you have damage only every 1:30 min

And still doing less than dh

[zealous condor]

Reck rav

[odd star]

this season im running roar for st raid

cause i hate spear

[zealous condor]

S2 build

[edgy widget]

You press Reck/Rav on cooldown, you're not "juggling" them

they're not even rotational abilities

[olive wraith]

Dh is overtuned. Of course we’re worse

[edgy widget]

they're cooldowns

[clever path]

still doing less than 80% of specs and then st happens

[errant vessel]

You press those every 30s

[clever path]

and you shit on them

[edgy widget]

lemme put it another way

[zealous condor]

I mean you weren’t really

[clever path]

and u are even on overalls

[south kayak]

The fact that dhs that have no cds do more than fury during their 1.5M burst

[clever path]

Warrior isnt about meters

[zealous condor]

In everything you gotta time when you press em

[odd star]

havoc gonna get more nerfs, their time will come

[clever path]

nice bait

its about friends we made along the way

[warm swallow]

What does this even mean?

[odd star]

same way as spriest had 4 nerfs or something in a row, havoc will rue the day they became godcomp

[still swift]

I did that last season already

[zealous condor]

Like there’s people getting rank 1 Warcraft logs with the current fury tierset with scroll wheel macros

[true arch]

[olive wraith]

Wdym by raging blow light up though. Did you mean rampage?

[edgy widget]

• The hard part about S2's playstyle is making sure a max bloodthirst falls into Spear every 1.5m

• The hard part about S3's playstyle is keeping track of three short cooldowns throughout the entirety of the fight

• Both specs have CDR alignment issues on major cooldowns (S2 is making sure Reck/Rav align with TR/Ava, S3 is making sure OF aligns with Reck/Ava/TR) - that one is a wash

[still swift]

hate not being able to talent swap from trash to boss in raid cuz CAN'T DO THAT WHILE TR ON CD

[clever path]

why is fury channel always so funny

[true arch]

oh shit yeah, my bad

rampage**

[lyric tartan]

my vote went to T3 100%

[edgy widget]

So yeah, I consider the build with one hard part every 1.5m to be easier than the build that forces me to watch the rotation constantly

[zealous condor]

This tierset