fury

[edgy widget]

I'm not sure how much Warriors really embody the "weaponmaster" concept tbh

[robust widget]

S3 = S2 > S1

[dark elbow]

I liked 100% crit on execute

[edgy widget]

but again, you don't have to convince me - I'm all for the tmog solution

But Blizzard clearly isn't or they'd have done it eight years ago

[deep sapphire]

Don’t pay attention to him, he’s from the Arms side and said he was coming to Fury to troll us.

[bold raven]

That would be hilarious if s1 won

[nova garnet]

Just let warriors do it, no one else. Make it a class passive. Extra text on Titan grip.

Fuck magss

[mossy fox]

wait i'm on team xeos? crap

[sinful spoke]

@dark elbow go back you one sword user

[lean wasp]

Am glad i chose fury for DF, i like it here

[fast crest]

dang i have all my weapon skills leveled to 400 too

[edgy widget]

sure, but again - the rest of the game's playerbase would be in an uproar - and everyone knows that Blizz often listens to the vocal majority

[fringe flame]

they're probably saving it for a cosmetic update in some .5 patch next expansion

[dark elbow]

annihilator forced me to be an Arms main

[robust widget]

[pure echo]

Also i REALLY hate how blizz posed the question, asking for transmog votes. The transmog doesn't matter, that's still attainable. The tier bonuses matter.

@dark elbow Ok, but that's not answering my question from a rotation/tier gameplay pov. What about the gameplay/rotation do you enjoy about S1? S1 felt terrible as fury.

[sinful spoke]

surely

[nova garnet]

Other class opinions

[edgy widget]

yeah, just like they've been saving it for the past 38 patches... ©️

[trim solstice]

try to get s1 lfr transmog right now lmao

[edgy widget]

Yeah I don't really understand their part about tmog

[fringe flame]

they can only add 5 more hair colors for the character customization updates so many times.

[deep sapphire]

Bro ignore him. He’s an Arms player.

[balmy shore]

im getting donowalled from voting s2 in na

[edgy widget]

I don't see "Master of Fury" in there anywhere!

[robust widget]

typical arms player

[pure echo]

Worst case scenario you could just get it in a few months or whenever TWW drops?

[sinful spoke]

jackie vote s3 or no leggo drop

[nova garnet]

Can we lower slow mode a bit, it's doing a good job but 60 is painful, can we try for like 15s lol

[edgy widget]

our tank's DK alt got the lego tonight, he went to do a M+ dungeon then logged off - can't be assed to do the questline

[lean wasp]

Yea, its cuz everyone is voting s2

[balmy shore]

im convinced it's not dropping for me because i made that joke about it being in the vault it's just karma. i love s2 play style give me fat bt

[sinful spoke]

ur gonna get it all u gotta do is vote s3

[calm swallow]

Actually..

[dapper goblet]

voting was a mistake

[ashen socket]

It's not even close

[nova garnet]

It's hype dies, can't blame him.

I wouldn't have the energy either. They should've just given it week 1 to everyone, not even that op

[verbal kernel]

who is voting s1 lol

[chilly fractal]

The same people that would vote for Harambe

[lean wasp]

Arms players

[deep sapphire]

The thing I hate most about this season with the leggo for us is they gave everyone weapons that do effects as well so we aren’t much different our weapon just has a larger number.

[dapper goblet]

Season 1 > Season 2 > > > > > > Season 3

[dark elbow]

I loved S1 Fury man, fast paced , no restrictions, press the glowy exe button for big dam, always the bigg crit number, felt fantastic, i was #4 on heroic! (On healing)

[silver tangle]

Arms pepegas

[fringe flame]

same people who voted for Grimrail Depot

[robust widget]

grimrail was fun

[pure echo]

ok... ban this man

[balmy shore]

my bf voted for grimrail

[fast crest]

what if they made the s2 stacking buff apply to execute instead of bloodthirst

[deep sapphire]

Can we get someone to 24 hour Vinnie since he’s on record in the Arms chat stating he was going to come to fury to troll?

[frank dawn]

I mean most people were saying season 1 was fun to play, just yeah it was SUPER weak

[dapper goblet]

what if we voted season 1 and all was right in the world

[lean wasp]

We had this conversation before, you can't make up tier sets

[fast crest]

ah fair enough. just throwing around dumb ideas 😄

[proud crown]

Why can't we vote on dungeons instead

[modest condor]

because last time they did we gave them iron docks and grimrail depot

[wild mica]

arent dungeons going to be all DF dungeons minus megadungeon?

[fringe flame]

most likely

[dark elbow]

Numbers dont matter at the moment, playstyle does!

[low folio]

i think seasons 2 had the best mog if you excluded the helmet

[lean wasp]

Uninstalling

[trim solstice]

uldaman and brackenhide?, no thanks

[marble schooner]

Voted S2/S2, I really dont like the heavy CD dependant playstyle, I think it hinders the class fantasy of fury

[deep sapphire]

Can they add Deadmines to the M+ rotation?

[wild mica]

uldaman is the only bad dragonflight dungeon (excluding megadungeon, they're both ass). brackenhide was hella fun

[south seal]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-democracy-i-love-democracy-gif-13935227

[frank dawn]

I mean I think most of the Dragonflight dungeons were pretty good once they finally tuned them all like 2 months into each season. But yeah Uldaman can fuck off a bit

[robust widget]

halls of infusion and uldaman can rot

[wild mica]

azure vault might suck if the skip was fixed tho 🤔

[steep fable]

azure vaults was awful

[lean wasp]

Mega dungeon and BH are fun imo, all other DF dungeons are shit

[rigid stirrup]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898695696482305/1194109467000848485/whydiddothis.gif?ex=65af281a&is=659cb31a&hm=805976b2a31fa2b7c0bb1d0cbe7f1566c360a07ab790a661d2c9bf362efb2047&
can we all agree

[tawny spindle]

what tier is winning in eu?

[frank dawn]

oh right Azure Vault...I had blocked that place from my memory.

[dark elbow]

Stealing that one

[robust widget]

but remember that EU is asleep right now, 4:40 am

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/amen-anchorman-will-ferrell-gif-10865461

[sinful spoke]

💀

[marble schooner]

S3 is winning in NA

[sullen dove]

surely the tier is taking the whole class into consideration and not just spec, cuz t1 arms was cleave gaming, current arms tier might be better tho idk

[dark elbow]

Fuckfuckfuxk cap kinda on in the end no?

[marble schooner]

damn I depend on EU peeps oh no

[proven tundra]

Have they released the next dungeon list

[robust widget]

likely all DF dungeons (idk about mega dungeons) - Dragonflight Season 4 will revisit Dragonflight’s dungeons and raids, along with outdoor content, featuring updated rewards, and a few new twists.

[rigid stirrup]

[young swan]

no, current theory is its just the 8 df dungeons

[robust widget]

Augury in s4 with dinar hopefully

[deep sapphire]

With the 8 DF dungeons and 3 raids what are gonna be our BiS trinkets?

[young swan]

augury + whatever sims highest

[rigid stirrup]

I'm gonna go outside for a while when fated is out

[opal tinsel]

What about Sark cloak, Icon, eranog/ diurna rings?

[young swan]

augury is easily the strongest trinket of the xpac

[robust widget]

couild Vaults council trinket be a thing again or Essence from Aberrus? God please someone say no

[young swan]

augury gaps all of them i fear

[dapper goblet]

first purchase will be sark cloak

[rigid stirrup]

augury + eranog ring gives me dopamine

[lapis lion]

how im bout to sleep seeing s2 in the mud

[sullen dove]

very ethical

[fringe flame]

an entire raid stealing each others secondaries

[molten relic]

puzzle box

[young swan]

box might make a comeback yeah

[sullen tendon]

why would anyone choose season 2 over season 3

[young swan]

i doubt it

but mayeb

[edgy widget]

puzzlebox did get nerfed so it might get beat out by current trinkets

[fringe flame]

Dinar probably best spent on very rare items

[sullen dove]

fuck box, literal same thing as mirror identical without a cast time

[robust widget]

how is mirror compared to puzzlebox? if we are assuming we get megadungeons aswell

[hollow ridge]

S3 tierset fated fantasy

[ashen socket]

Honestly im not surprised

[frank dawn]

so for real for a second. If they just added raging blow for the damage buff to the season 3 tier set. That would in theory just let you play whatever build you want right? Both Ravager and Annihilator builds can pick up OF

[young swan]

think mirror is prob better since puzzy got nerfed?

[opal tinsel]

Puzzlebox would also heavily DR no?

[young swan]

they're prob pretty close

[sullen tendon]

season 3 feels better and does more damage than season 2 and 1

[south seal]

S2 win prayge bt glazers

[edgy widget]

so does mirror, but yeah probably

thankfully Fury doesn't really care about Mastery DR too much

[balmy shore]

this guy knows what's up

[edgy widget]

it's still a very strong stat

[robust basin]

Why the duck is season 3 winning

[young swan]

cause its goated

[lapis lion]

because it's more fun

[dapper goblet]

slam and ww presser and a slave to the totem man hardstuck 1min 30 cds

[winter shoal]

Gimme s1 fury s3 arms, if I'm playing fated you better believe I'm EXECUTING

[sullen tendon]

id rather have all my CDs lineup everytime than having 4 CDs that line up randomly

[mental quarry]

Anger management and ravager > slam and blood thirst spam

[opal tinsel]

why are you bringing dmg into the discussion 😛

[sullen dove]

s1 and 2 all of the above except raging blow rampage slave and instead of 1min30s you get no variety in dps for an entire fight

[trim solstice]

they should just put them all in the season, people will play s3 anyway because it hits harder

[wanton mirage]

I will go vote S3 for Arms so that I can continue playing Fury...

[dapper goblet]

gromnak chatter L

[sour frigate]

[sullen dove]

gromnak mod double L 🧎‍♂️

[deep sapphire]

S2 Bloodthirst build up is just garbage tier gameplay. If I have to play Anger Management I’d rather S1 over S2

[sullen tendon]

i just cant comprehend anyone voting for season 1 or 2 unless they are trolling

[dapper goblet]

season 3 = you like drooling and auto attacking FACT

[wild mica]

some of us enjoy having cooldowns up basically all the time in m+. in raid it doesnt matter assuming they balance properly

[fiery storm]

season 3 = you like being shit

[sullen dove]

no I like big fuck 1.3mil hits on damage amp bosses

[covert blaze]

giving a take and saying FACT after
hoooooly

[dark elbow]

[clever path]

Facts

[wanton mirage]

Can I go vote S1 in evoker so that Aug won't get a Tier Set? 5head

[deep sapphire]

Fury’s in the best spot it’s been all xpac this season and you think it means we like being crap. LMAO.

[dapper goblet]

[wild mica]

numbers wise sure, gameplay wise definitely not

[fiery storm]

disagree

[sullen dove]

xeos you stealing my warlock?

[upbeat blade]

would honestly take a hidden 4th option of roll the dice at another new tier set

[sullen tendon]

no guys the trolls are right. fury should be harder to play and also do worse damage than all other classes. also we should have a combo mechanic and have to keep track of bleeds

[robust widget]

asking evokers which set mog they want blizzard doing the funny

[frosty karma]

Vote S1 my brothers, I wanna play another game until war within

[edgy widget]

lmao

[deep sapphire]

Just release all three tier sets and let the numbers speak for themselves. All the S2 enjoyers gonna be crying when S3 tier blows it out of the water.

[bitter wind]

Is there a specific haste % fury is aimming for or shouldn't go over?

[chilly fractal]

no

[mental quarry]

Numbers can be adjusted. Season 3 is ass to play

[wild mica]

whatever the sims say

[dark elbow]

Gonna get a rank 1 parse with S1

[sullen dove]

Honestly that guy was cooking it’s not even s2 tier that people want it’s just am ravager in which case just go s1 set, numbers be tuned better s1 > s2 plainly

[sullen tendon]

season 3 is ass to play if you are ass at playing

[frosty karma]

(I don't like fated season, it's just gearing up for leveling)

[covert void]

I can only assume people are playing it wrong because for me, this season has been the best so far this expansion.

[quiet bramble]

s3 feels so good cause I love big crits and I cannot lie

[opal tinsel]

in m+ there are times where you literally cannot press a button

[deep sapphire]

S3 feels and flows so much better than S1-2.

[covert blaze]

Trueeeee

[wild mica]

if that happens you press shockwave

[fringe flame]

yes actually. its nice to take an edible and just press my two buttons listening to my jams and not worry about dps 🙂

[sullen tendon]

in m+ if you have no 1.5 min cooldowns you spam bloodthirst for crits and then use OF

[sullen dove]

[balmy shore]

holding ava until after spear/roar makes my brain feel bad i wanna just go go go

[edgy widget]

OF kinda fucks though

[quiet bramble]

Bloodbath is the best thing ever.

[tranquil canopy]

If u have nothing to press u log off

[deep sapphire]

Oh man not being able to slam your face on the keyboard for every button press and have to think a little more.

[edgy widget]

Just wanna point out that OF hits almost as hard as Ravager and on a shorter cooldown

[wild mica]

remove deft experience so we can play am/ravager

[clever path]

I like s3

[edgy widget]

not to mention instantly, rather than ground target something is gonna move out of

[sullen tendon]

any uncapped AOE is good for fury imo

[lean nacelle]

Season 3 tier on dathea, adds are gonnna die so fast

[edgy widget]

OF isn't actually uncapped, it's softcapped like Rav

[proud portal]

Literally fury been best spot all expansion than S2 lmao

[edgy widget]

Ravager almost never hits everything in big pulls without a DK mass grip though, OF does

[opal tinsel]

its not really about thinking. if you wanna force constant whirlwind cleave, you will run out of stuff to press. that feels bad.

[edgy widget]

OF also deals damage instantly; try using Ravager against Igira or Tindral lol

[sullen tendon]

i loved in season 1 and 2 when i would use my spear of bastion or ravager and after the tank pulls 3 packs and then proceeds to chain pull another pack and all my cooldowns are useless

[clever path]

This

[steep fable]

OF is the button for m+

[covert void]

Genuinely so nice having OF up often for packs.

[frosty karma]

Odyn's Fury falls off terribly fast as well as the avatar buff from it and if you got no unbridled procs from your rampage your empowered global is a BT that crits for a little over 100k and doesnt even cleave that damage

[proud portal]

I love OF due to the sheer fact at this. I also love seeing big numbers suddenly explode in my face when I use my AOE abilities.

I really don't understand the fury warrior S3 tier set hate when it literally made the spec way better than other tier sets we're in.

[deep sapphire]

You maybe have like half a second RARELY that you’re not pushing a button. You don’t have to push a button 24/7. You’ll live not spamming off GCD.

[quiet bramble]

I feel like I'm constantly pressing buttons now right?

[wanton mirage]

Ok guys lets talk about how S3 playstyle will fits in in Vault and Aberrus bosses and S2 playstylee in Vault and Amidrasil bosses

[edgy widget]

Because during early PTR testing there was a strong belief that the set was very bad for M+ and even though it's been disproven over and over again, some people (who largely don't do much M+ anyway) continue pushing the idea

[lean nacelle]

doesn't the S3 set make us tankier since we go more into vers since haste isn't needed as much?

[opal tinsel]

live while not spamming off gcd. sir this is fury. if you dont like it. play another spec

[edgy widget]

I was thinking about that, and tbh I don't see a huge difference - OF comes off CD faster than Reck/Rav, so timing differences shouldn't be an issue - if anything OF would be even better on Raszageth

[fiery storm]

voting season 1 now

[deep sapphire]

My dude I said rarely. It helps me temper my ADHD slightly.

[edgy widget]

on the other hand, dealing all your damage instantly is better, and not needing everything grouped up inside Ravager is also better (Broodmother)

[sullen dove]

odyns on zaqali assault… AND SARK HOLY WTF

[primal plover]

Im surprised i thought everyone would vote for season 1 fury set with rav and reck both benefitting from AM now and go back to the execute RB spam hahah i thought everyone hated anni

[edgy widget]

example: Ravager would suck against Igira or Tindral, it did suck against Eranog adds

OF works there though

[frank dawn]

OF > Ravager any day, people just like Ravager because it was tuned so much higher without this season tier

[clever path]

S3 fucks

[trim solstice]

lmao

[proud portal]

I saw this and now I know why they're complaining

[covert blaze]

PhD in dps moment

[frosty karma]

DH gonna do 5 times your damage in the same time with a preloaded ragefire/eyebeam/essencebreak or glaivetempest

[sullen dove]

na I need odyns sarkareth and echo of nelth p3 in my life, no way it’s just not s3 winning hands down

[young swan]

am rav s3 build on zaqali

[quiet oak]

Its thw right move, but people like to suffer. Since s2 or s3 is going ro win i will just go arms. Or make a different build and fuck damage

[sharp kite]

you know i was thinking S2 but you all have made good points, S3 vote here

[edgy widget]

if the Season 1 bonus worked at all with Fury, I'd vote for it in a heartbeat

but it just doesn't, it's god awful

[steep fable]

OF would be way better for kurog adds too...that shit all over the place

[robust widget]

typical kazzak player take

[edgy widget]

and that's not a matter of tuning, the mechanics simply don't work for Fury

[trim solstice]

go play dh then

[primal plover]

yea i alway s found it odd they pushed execute as a damage profile for fury

[edgy widget]

I mean it was a good idea

[frosty karma]

they could give the S1 2-set critdamage and add a stacking bleed from execute or something else to the 4 set

[proud portal]

Meanwhile me:

[young swan]

just not for fury lmfao

[dapper goblet]

👞

[edgy widget]

but Fury has so many effects built up into Raging Blow and Rampage, that you can't just not use them in favor of Execute, even if Execute does more direct damage

it's the same problem that I fear Mountain Thane will suffer with the whole Thunderous Blast deal - a "high priority proc" that's not actually all that high priority

[sullen tendon]

BOOOOOOOOOOSTED

[primal plover]

that's why i worry about the mountain thane they putting so much into both RB and BT interactions it worries me

[edgy widget]

I mean they have time to fix it, why I pointed out the issues early

and it will still probably fuck in multitarget

[trim solstice]

they're not changing old tiers and definetly not making a new one lmao

[edgy widget]

I wouldn't hate Mountain Thane being the goto M+ build tbh, those big TBs could be juicy there

[sullen tendon]

its gonna be weird seeing fury using thunderclap

[smoky prawn]

clapping cheeks

[opal tinsel]

i wished for legion fury for christmas, i didnt get it

[proud portal]

😭 I literally had to play this like all the time. This was me on Fyrakk heroic 😭

[quiet oak]

In a perfect world blizz would let us see the changes to older sets so we could decide. I get your point i simple dont like BT lol

[primal plover]

i find it weird ive mained warrior for so long but this season has been the best M+ progress ive ever done on warrior which is sad......but also the most eye opening and makes me realise we never get the utility for groups like M+ 😦

[night dune]

The trick is to smack hard enough to compensate

[pearl cradle]

@primal plover i feel you my boomkin ant always get higher raider io rating vs my main because of utility

[sullen tendon]

are you using recount in 2024????

[smoky prawn]

just make sure brown bar is on top

[young swan]

think thats skada

[proud portal]

Skada.

[primal plover]

doesnt help i also have not received a single weapon or trinket thats any decent in vault the entire season

[night dune]

I miss it, ngl

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[night dune]

Details feels bloated in comparison

[sullen dove]

[wild mica]

bloated? i still use damagemeters

[sullen tendon]

real

[covert void]

I do feel like they could've just let people pick the tier they want at this point. not sure having a forum poll is that much of a fun revolutionary idea.

[sullen tendon]

everyone saying they hate season 3 right now would see everyone else using season 3 and end up using it

[primal plover]

make it like classic runes or something slot your tier set bonus as a part of a talent layout fuck it rofl t1 for x boss tier 2 for y and t3 for M+ dungeon a b and t2 again for dungeon c

[frosty karma]

it's not even a real poll, you can keep changing your vote

[covert void]

yeah, it would be great wouldn't it? then that's on them lol.

[wild mica]

just give us all 3 sets at the same time

[sullen tendon]

it would just be season 3 set with an extra talent point

[steep fable]

we are all slaves to the simbot...even if people could choose between 45 tier sets, they would pick the one that sims highest

[sour frigate]

👍

[bold raven]

Rav looks cooler and feels more fun to use. OF just feels like a really strong WW

[covert void]

honestly for the final season, this would be fun too. if you get a piece you get that piece for all 3 sets. revisit previous seasons as you wish. test them all with all items etc.

[tawny spindle]

s2 for me was more fun than s3

[dapper goblet]

Dont let the tier poll distract you from the fact that they havent nerfed Tindral yet.

[ashen socket]

I took a 2 month break from season 2 so going s3 all the way

[robust widget]

nerf for what, tindral on lfr was pretty doable 🙂

[steep fable]

I wanna run odyn's fury on Razageth intermissions

[frosty karma]

I wonder if embellishments stay at 486 ilevel, because Legendaries were our lowest itemlevel in SL S4, gear was like 311 and legendaries were 291

[ashen socket]

S3 fury on razzy p would be so fucking fun so would sark. Actually really want to know what the damage output would be for fury on both of those fights with fury s3

[edgy widget]

Sark could probably go either way, cause the timing worked out p well for Ravager (unless you got unlucky)

S3 would be better on Raszageth adds though, not sure about shield timings, but probably at least as good

[steep fable]

Odyn's on Dathea platforms

[bold raven]

It would be interesting to play S3 build on the first 2 raids i guess

[nova garnet]

Seeing as this is furry warrior

[robust widget]

oh man he mad already, he knows s1 gonna win

[ashen socket]

It seems everyone got tuckered out

[nova garnet]

Beautiful

[weak tartan]

What is the story with season 4 tier sets? are we going to choose 1 of the 3 seasons tier set to play it on season 4 instead of our current tier set?

[rigid stirrup]

are we still on slow mode

[proud portal]

Pretty much, I would choose season 3 tier set than Season 2 btw.

[sinful spoke]

I cant wait to have my legos ilvl increased and pair it with ashkandur

[proud portal]

I do the love the fact people calling out people for liking Season 3 tier set are 100% hiding behind alts it's kind of hilarious

[wanton mirage]

For someone who didnt get Ash in S2 and no Lego yet in S3, my excitement is

[sinful spoke]

What if u get both one after the otherp

[olive wraith]

Idk I like s3 playstyle the most

[wind token]

i liked S2 set but i dont think its that much better than S3 and if you vote for S1 you are crazy

[crude ridge]

Give us S2 pre-PTR nerfs kekw

[sinful spoke]

I think everyone has their preferences and ppl should vote what they wanna play i enjoyed s2 set but i like the burst dmg of s3 a lot more

[wind token]

also playing am for a long time can feel old

[proud portal]

S1 fury warrior was literally a pain simulation I've ever had too deal with. I hated that tier set so much that I switch too arms

[crude ridge]

Yeah S1 would be stupid with how ass execute is

[quiet bramble]

My only dream was if they somehow made SMF good with the current tier and stuff. Gimme double Gholak!

[sinful spoke]

Same hahaha

[proud portal]

I just wish fury had a rework/love like Arms did 😔

[spring geyser]

Kinda funny to see all the discourse about s1 vs s2 vs s3. At this point I don't care if it's s2 or s3 tier set, just anything but s1

[crude ridge]

I just find it odd how we're this far into DF and SMF is still a dead talent section to take

[sinful spoke]

As a matter of fact s1 was so bad i swapped to dh

[quiet bramble]

s1 fury reads as a arms bonus

[compact knot]

imagine if they say fuck you and make a 4th tier set and it forces us into SMF (guy below me trolling)

[quiet oak]

S1 fury was the best fury in DF

[balmy zephyr]

S3 Fury is peak fury

[soft orbit]

unironically a tier around would be an interesting idea

[quiet bramble]

SMF is there as a panacea to those who love it, they'll never tune it appropriately. It's actually a miracle they somehow made DW and 2h Frost DK somewhat close even if 2h is winning this season.

[compact knot]

imo gives us all 3 and just dont let us mix and match them

[crude ridge]

That's the problem though. They've made a part of our talent tree pointless just for aesthetics

[young swan]

the only mix and matching u could do is 2p2p

[spring geyser]

S1 fury had nothing going for it in terms of synergy. It was just a set that enabled you to press execute more often outside of execute ranges and increased the consistency of crits. There wasn't even a raw damage increase on execute, just that it crit more often.

[young swan]

which in most cases isnt that strong anyways

[quiet bramble]

It's too much work to expect them to balance all the specs around 3 different sets, it was never going to happen.

[restive peak]

S1 sucked, S2 was pretty pog but pretty weak, S3 is pog and strong

[hasty path]

It adds an extra layer for some specs though

[olive wraith]

S1 but cast OF when you consume sd

[crude ridge]

That would be busted

[compact knot]

S1 but execute has no threshold and its the only button you push

[spring geyser]

Actually broken. If the tier set was something around consuming SD at all it'd be sick. Like if consuming SD gave you a stack or two of RA? Kinda dope I suppose

[quick hull]

if they are going to retune shit, im leaning towards more of picking the tier i enjoyed playing more

[sullen dove]

bring back condemn

[compact knot]

i been saying bring this back (i hope the slayer tree does)

[fiery harbor]

s2 allowed you to pick fun talents, but had boring tier bonus. s3 has a fun tier bonus but forces you to pick boring talents

[crude ridge]

That's the thing is if they brought back S1 they would have to heavily buff execute and I highly doubt they would buff it to make it worth

[young swan]

"boring talents" transforms the entire rotation

[fallen kelp]

i hate annihilator sooo much

[olive wraith]

S2 was a copy paste of s1 in terms of talents

[fiery harbor]

not in an interesting way

[quiet bramble]

I like annihilator.

[mellow bloom]

Annihilate THIS

[young swan]

how isnt it interesting

[sullen dove]

the only boring thing about this season is no ravager every 30 seconds and while that’d probably be super pog to use with odyns at the same time as a 6 stack hurricane odyns is just a cooler button flat out

[compact knot]

because he has to push bloodthirst instead of rampage (the rotation is exactly the same)

[olive wraith]

Playstyle is subjective. I personally enjoy our current rotation. It’s so diff from the rest of DF

[spring geyser]

at this point I don't want blizzard to touch execute just on the principle that it should stay as a minor thing for fury for increased enrage uptime/rage gen at execute thresholds. Let everything else do damage so fury stays consistent. I miss OG Juggernaut but I would happily trade that in every day for the consistency fury has now.

[fiery harbor]

it removes your filler, gives whirlwind a cooldown, and in exchange you get the privilege to press slam

and makes like 3 talents unusable

[young swan]

bloodthirst is also a filler

as is ww

and slam

[dapper goblet]

vote season 1

[sullen dove]

hell naw

[young swan]

its not like rb has a monopoly on being a filler ability

[crude ridge]

See I miss old execute like Legion because I enjoyed blasting through the meters when in execute range but that's just me.

[fiery harbor]

i said as much good about s3 playstyle as i did about s2, idk why you picked this hill to die on, this is all personal preference

[sullen dove]

[proud portal]

Why you slowly switch over too haste/crit when you get higher ilvl gear given mastery and vers drop off at higher ilvl

[young swan]

i think the argument about ww having a cd is pretty bad, you're never pressing it more than every 4 gcds anyways

[royal oxide]

what season we angy boys voting?

[spring geyser]

Oh yeah of course, I really loved the playstyle at the time and played fury during then but I don't wanna worry about maintaining stacks or having some mechanic force me to drop it and losing a third of my damage for it. I am stuck between wanting execute to actually be meaningful for damage in fury's breakdown, and having it be a minor increase that makes it a little more consistent in execute ranges.

[compact knot]

season 1

[young swan]

not liking slam is understandable, bad animation + sound

slam damage isnt all that bad

about the same as RB

[proud portal]

Season 3 100% worth it the damage/synergy.

[royal oxide]

season 1? that seems underwhelming....

[fallen kelp]

I had by far the most fun with season 2

[ashen socket]

Lets not act like every single fury warrior is actually looking at their character animation and not their bars

[compact knot]

man i look at my bars and still fucking crank 😭

[ashen socket]

Same

[solemn oyster]

do my dh logs let me have opinion s on warrior

[ashen socket]

No

[spring geyser]

huh? I'm i487 and still valuing vers/mastery highly with 26% haste, 26% crit, 53% mastery, and 21% vers respectively. Mastery is as good as it is with the uptimes we have, and vers is the same thing as mastery for us but without diminishing returns from stacking one stat. At best, haste is valued closer to mastery but that's due to DRs

[fallen kelp]

imagine rolling fury warrior and waiting for cds pack to pack and pressing slam like holy shit

[wild mica]

are you getting purple logs on purpose because its the dh color

[young swan]

heroic logs as dh that are purple

[edgy widget]

so ironically, if you actually go back and look at similar S2 and S3 logs, the cast breakdowns are very similar

[proud portal]

There's a softcap issue when you get higher in ilvl and the sims starts too point towards Haste/crit. I think Archimtiros have more explaination than I do.

[solemn oyster]

obviously

[edgy widget]

as in, S2 rotations typically cast RB about as much as S3 rotations cast Bloodthirst + Bloodbath, same with Rampage, and most fillers

[compact knot]

herouc purple dh logs are pink fury warrior logs ong

[young swan]

not terribly surprising

[rose bay]

yeah if u were ww on singletarget as filler in s2 ur rb luck sucked ;c

[quiet bramble]

in s2 did RB do more than Rampage?

[solemn oyster]

should bring back bfa furious slash for filler

[wild mica]

spamming rampage during ravager felt so good tho

[young swan]

i agree but dont get people started, they dont like us speaking the truth

[rose bay]

am i bad for hating all 3 tier sets and would rather have something new or different?

[frank dawn]

wot

[edgy widget]

no, but you're probably shit out of luck 😆

[edgy widget]

no

no

god no

[spring geyser]

AM should just be baseline imo

[royal oxide]

kind of hard to vote blindly on s1/2 sets without knowing how they intend to buff them

[wraith wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/baldur's-gate-baldur's-gate-3-withers-no-noo-gif-6455368871201756432

[young swan]

definitely not, but it should definitely be in the warrior tree rather than all 3 spec trees

[crude ridge]

No not even close

[ashen socket]

Did someone say Furious slash blessed blade of the windseeker?

[sullen tendon]

what do you mean? were already constatly spamming rampage. most of hte time im bursting I have too much rage and have to use my BB charges instead of rampage

[edgy widget]

can't make everything you like baseline or you'd have no talents left

[proud portal]

Dear god no. One of the worst fillers that did nothing. That blizzard did us a favor in removing it from the game

[young swan]

just make it do something?

[quiet bramble]

I could see some people upset the nominal filler Bloodbath being top damage over Rampage, but Bloodbath crits feel good.

[wild mica]

we're not hitting it multiple times in a row though now are we

[mental quarry]

Move am where shockwave is and put shockwave higher in the tree

[sullen tendon]

bloodbath does 2x more damage than rampage

[solemn oyster]

Better than slam, and it gave you a small maintenance buff! BFA fury was honestly the peak of the post legion shit design

[edgy widget]

I think that's kinda the whole point Reckless Abandon though - AM focuses on Rampage, RA focuses on something else

I think that's healthy

[proud portal]

True, better than slam. If only arms had furious slash

[spring geyser]

AM is the only thing I want baseline in the current tree 😄

[wild mica]

i feel like you're misunderstanding what im saying. I know we don't want to waste BB, i would just prefer our rage dump was #1 prio

[quiet bramble]

It is healthy, but I really think tier sets shouldn't encourage/force builds but the devs seem to like it.

[solemn oyster]

That’s what focused rage is for. Crazy how one talent would fix a lot of arms problems

[wraith wharf]

and its one of the things that actually makes sense has a talent

[frank dawn]

BT, RB, WW work well as filler imo. It's kinda weird when they changed RA they did so wanting us to use all abilities which obviously didn't happen and maybe it doesn't need too. BUT it would probably be cooler if the spec was regularly using BT and RB to fill like it has in the past, but also talent point economy doesn't really support it. idk lol, but same problems if you introduce some other random filler imo

[compact knot]

hamstring filler to fish for deep wound procs

[proud portal]

If only, Slam so useless this expansion idk why it's a thing.(For arms) Send help

[crude ridge]

Lets all just tell Blizz to make us a new set cause we can't agree on S2 or S3 lul

[stone epoch]

We need a WW Talent that TURNS WW into a MINI-BLADESTORM that also by chance applies gushing wounds - Thaaaats it

[olive wraith]

How many ppm was s1 sd(also when was this slow mode implemented)

[wild mica]

next expansion we'll cast both slam and thunderclap

[quiet bramble]

The BfA warrior main in me is enjoying gushing wounds being relevant

[young swan]

gregoronsen made a pretty neat talent tree that solves a lot of issues i personally have with fury as well as providing some very interesting options from older iterations

[proud portal]

I do think Fury should have more bleed effects and have a full on bleed build. I remember the old legion antorous tier set that had bleed every rampage and everyone wanted it.

[sullen tendon]

season 1 was so bad it was like a 1% damage upgrade with 4 set

[clever path]

Then what arms is for then

[young swan]

execute damage

[crude ridge]

That bleed was busted and pretty fun.

[red berry]

s1 could be improved in it sort of mirrored what t3 arms did

[olive wraith]

I know the set was bad. But was just wondering if we could have something similar to arms current tier where the SD proc also does an additional thing

[sour frigate]

we already do coldsteel roar and of lol

[proud portal]

Big boy hits and big boi execute damage

And yeah I loved the antorous tier set it was busted but it was so funny too use it since it made fury warrior PVP a thing

[spring geyser]

Fury did have a bleed build in DF beta. It was able to run a SMF build with gushing wounds, TR, OF, and the thunderclap/rend talent combo that arms currently has. It wasn't particularly strong but it was fun.

[stone epoch]

Are Classes balanced by people now or AI? I feel like no one is balancing warriors. we are on life support.

[red berry]

gushing wounds would be more fun if it was similar to BFA's strength but it feels pretty eh

[solemn oyster]

Arms really should be playing like legion. BFA fucked up both warrior specs

[edgy widget]

Fury lost Rend before Blood & Thunder was added

and the build was completely cursed

I made it as a meme to show how bad it was

[compact knot]

💀

[proud portal]

I remember it in the beta, I completely forgot how bad it was. I think a reminder would be nice lol.

[edgy widget]

it was Rampageless/Recklessness Fury, which used SMF & Frenzied Flurry to maitain 100% passive enrage uptime via auto-attacks, while spending all of its rage on Rend and Slam

[wraith wharf]

all the season 2 people making fun of others or calling them tryhards just makes me want to vote for season 3 more

[wild mica]

i dont understand the tryhard argument, or why its ever an argument anyone would use

[edgy widget]

I might have a vod of it somewhere, but yeah it was cursed, both in terms of gameplay and the talent layout

[spring geyser]

Must've been the alpha or something. I was looking forward to tclap fury but at least I get my dose of tclap next expac with the thane stuff.

[edgy widget]

like you just skipped the entire middle of the talent tree

no rampage, no reck, no enraged regeneration (at the time, it was further down the tree)

[proud portal]

Oh god that sounds so cursed, did it do like massive amount of damage? I should see if you have a vod of it cus that sounds ridiculously cursed lol

[clever path]

Let’s do it , let’s have more OF and BB spam

[edgy widget]

no AM, no RA

oh you had siegebreaker though 😬

you know, set up those burst periods so you can spam Slam!

[solemn oyster]

I feel like fury warrior should have a second rage spender that grants a maintenance buff/debuff, like a rend

[wraith wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/baldur's-gate-baldur's-gate-3-withers-no-noo-gif-6455368871201756432

[proud portal]

I honestly felt like siegebreaker if it was properly tuned could've been on the rightside of the tree and used for single target.

[frosty karma]

Yea something that does damage to more than 5 targets and has no cd

[edgy widget]

it was, for awhile

but they wanted Onslaught too, and having both was kinda bloaty

and ultimately more people like Onslaught, cause Siegebreaker just feels like mini-CS (it also had some cooldown timing issues, and was just generally not very "fury" feeling)

[solemn oyster]

Siege breaker was so fun. They should’ve made it randomly reset on cd

[wraith wharf]

so.. arms lite

[covert blaze]

guild killed tindral

[clever path]

Lfr Tindral ?

[solemn oyster]

arms but...when iut was good :)

[proud portal]

I remember when Tenderized wasn't used often given how undertuned it was. It would've been nice if they actually slotted in a passive siegebreaker with onslaught so you had a mini burst period but that would also kind of be borked if tuned wrong.

[fiery harbor]

polling it in the first place is definitely a bad move. just gonna bring out all the armchairs and incite arguments. and in the end people will pick whatever the streamers will tell them to pick

[wraith wharf]

probably

[crude ridge]

I mean we already had the arguments without the poll lol

[olive wraith]

I have a feeling t31 is gonna lose. People thinking it’s “slower”

[solemn oyster]

the best move was to definitely make a season 4 tier set and put the tokens in every raid

[rigid stirrup]

Nah its everyone sabotaging each other to make the most cursed season wow has ever seen. That'll teach em to give power to the people

[edgy widget]

no such thing as bad press

gets people talking

[wraith wharf]

im just hoping for actual new colors for the set that wins the mog, otherwise its whatever

[fiery harbor]

true true

[crude ridge]

There are literally other discords trying to sabotage votes lol

[edgy widget]

idk its winning pretty handily so far

however that doesn't mean much - Blizz won't necessarily listen to the poll, they're just gauging interest

[covert blaze]

Mythic

[wild mica]

as expected... unfortunately

[smoky prawn]

give me current tset pls ty

[edgy widget]

and that's exactly why they're not necessarily going to follow the results of the polls

[crude ridge]

Yeah no I would not be surprised

[wraith wharf]

that an according to that one post on the forums the votes are per toon not per account. i havent tried cause i dont actually care that much

[olive wraith]

That doesn’t sound right. Degens making 1k toons to vote

[clever path]

How Was season 1 bonus gameplay wise ? Was it strong ?

I skipped season 1 so asking for a friend

[compact knot]

not strong, gameplay wise it wasnt bad it just wasnt noticeable

[sullen tendon]

it had 0 effect on gameplay

[round cedar]

Very underwhelming

[crude ridge]

Honestly I would want something new rather than the old sets but oh well

[modest condor]

let's just say we prefered higher ilvl pieces over tierset for half the patch

[wraith wharf]

i made a gif explaining season 1

[proud portal]

It was utter crap/garbage literally just more execute timer and more crit. It was just bad due to execute being underwhelming damage vs arms execute

And what Silmarilen said

[edgy widget]

it wasn't bad due to execute being low damage

it was still Fury's strongest attack

[sullen tendon]

execute isnt even a real execute ability its just used for rage gen

[solemn oyster]

I unironically think that they should make execute extend your enrage, and make it cost rage

[edgy widget]

it was bad because virtually no amount of damage Execute can do is worth more than all the things Raging Blow and Rampage do

[unborn rover]

Should just rename execute to wild strike from WoD.

[edgy widget]

So... Rampage? lol

the problem wasn't with Execute, the problem was making a tier set bonus that tried to make a filler button into a priority one

[crude ridge]

Makes me wonder how they would buff the S1 set if it won

[sour frigate]

🙂

[sullen tendon]

we have like 90% uptime on enrage lol or more even if you arent doing mechanics

[proud portal]

I guess so, but it was basically just rage regen. Didn't really do much in terms of the tier set bonus and was one of the weakest in seasons 1.

Just yeah raging blow and rampage was worth more damage than execute by end of the day 😭

[rigid stirrup]

thats crazy because I posted the same gif a couple hours ago

[edgy widget]

there are just more effects wrapped up into RB and Rampage than there are with Execute... which only really has Ashen Jugg, and that's not worth a lot unless you're actually keeping it stacked up 100%

[sullen dove]

bring back (crushing blow > crushing blow > rampage) X 100 for the entire fight

[sullen tendon]

maybe if execute actually buffed your enrage and worked with ashen jugg it would feel worth using as a damage ability

[wraith wharf]

so did i

[crude ridge]

If S1 won the poll how would you think they would go about buffing it?

[sullen dove]

get the hell away from crit and make it just buff the straight damage of exe surely

[sullen tendon]

they would do nothing and instead people would just keep wearing their season 3 tier set

[edgy widget]

I don't think there's any reasonable amount they could buff it by to make it an effective tier set bonus

[proud portal]

I think if they really wanted S1 tier set too work they needed Ashen Jugg too basically infinitly stack like it did in Legion. Or stack high than at 5

[wraith wharf]

alll the way back up here at 6:44 PM PST, cause im the one who edited it

[edgy widget]

which is to say that they would have to buff it so much that it would break other things

[crude ridge]

Yeah I can't really think of a way to make it viable atm

[edgy widget]

and even then it'd still probably be poop in MT

[proud portal]

Pretty much, S1 tier set bonus was just very flawed. I kind of wonder if they were testing it and realize how many people didn't like it at all.

S2 and S3 were pretty good ideas but it needs to be worked on more.

[steep fable]

I wanna blast algethar tree boss with Odyn's

[sullen tendon]

make execute launch off a OF when it procs sudden death

[edgy widget]

people really liked the idea of it, still do - it's just really weak

idk, there might be a number or buff they could do it it, but I don't see it happening either way, so idc to look that hard

[crude ridge]

I find it funny how they included it in the poll considering how bad it was/would be

[edgy widget]

would be weirder not to

[astral path]

bring me back to shadowlands fury, i was about to type legion why tf is there a timer on chat

[solemn oyster]

bfa fury... LEGION FURY

[edgy widget]

Legion Fury was majorly propped up by Legion trinkets and crit damage scaling, wouldn't work out as well now

[wraith wharf]

where the grass was green and the grils were pretty

[weary sedge]

i miss bfa/legion arms

[sullen tendon]

i just want fury to have pleasing animations and the wildstrike sound to return

[fiery harbor]

on eu forums s2 is winning iirc, or am I thinking of the armor appearance

[edgy widget]

Yeah, but the total amount of votes is far lower

[astral path]

i cant even get on the site to vote

[crude ridge]

Legion fury was peak fury change my mind. (I'm bias to Legion)

[edgy widget]

in NA, Season 3 Fury is winning by more votes than all three EU options combined

[proud portal]

It's strange, because in order too fix it. It needed more buffs than the execute damage buff it got in S1. which would indirectly break other talent sets too fix it like you said earlier.

Either way it just seems odd. S3 was pretty fun in tier set wise, but I think they could work on making other abilities onto par with annhilator build too have 2 combos. But that's just me.

[edgy widget]

so combining the total # of votes, S3 is winning by a pretty strong margin

[solemn oyster]

that sucks

[modest condor]

it's 6am in eu, we'll see vote count rise the coming hours

[fiery harbor]

ah yeah we all asleep here still xD

[edgy widget]

Probably, but these polls never get as much EU traffic as NA

it's also midnight in NA

[crude ridge]

Yo what if EU voted S1 and NA was half and half S2/S3 lmao

[dense elbow]

Then NA wins, one way or another, cause NA

[fiery harbor]

then we unlock the secret gladiator stance

[modest condor]

because the wowhead post only links to NA forums

[astral path]

i think tier set 1 look the best right, s2 and s3 are hot dogwater

[edgy widget]

does it still? I told them to add the EU links

[wraith wharf]

can we take the season 1 2 piece bonus, but take the arms season 3 4 piece instead?

[sullen tendon]

dude wtf I cant find the wild strike wowhead page at all

[sullen dove]

when i clicked wowhead link it brought me to forum where theres a ton of people but i dont think i saw anywhere to actually vote, unless you were just supposed to post what you were voting for

[fiery harbor]

agreed. but most people have it already cus its when most people were active so they will likely vote for s2 due to them missing out on it

[edgy widget]

because it's called Furious Slash

[modest condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/choose-your-own-tier-set-bonuses-and-transmog-in-dragonflight-season-4-337063

only seeing na links here, maybe they're still working on the eu links idk

[sullen tendon]

this is my furious slash

[dense elbow]

Interacting with their buttons, it brings you to NA

[edgy widget]

yeah, but this was the last version of the ability

[wraith wharf]

on the plus side, at least noone is trying to go back to the classic verison of warrior were auto attacks generated rage and everything was a spender.. with heroic strike has a too much rage filler

[edgy widget]

Wild Strike became Furious Slash after WoD

and then it died because it was actually furious shit

[thorny cove]

wild strike was so satisfying to press

[edgy widget]

we don't need a button dedicated solely to a maintenance buff, nor does Fury need another filler

the decision to replace WS with Whirlwind was damn near universally celebrated at the time

[solemn oyster]

i want fury to have more buttons tho. Don't care if they all interact together, I like having a piano but i like fury

[clever path]

Wasn’t heroic strike was such a lame ability to press. Slam of its time

[wraith wharf]

VOTE FOR THE SEASON YOU WANT TO PLAY PLEASE

[sullen tendon]

gameplay wise it was dogshit but asthetic wise i loved hearing it everytime it was pressed.

[edgy widget]

mod it in

[thorny cove]

also prob unpopular opinion but I really liked wod siegebreaker

[weak tartan]

but season 2 play wise ravager is 20 times better then now

[quiet bramble]

I liked a lot of BfA warrior, but that's probably just corruption nostalgia

[edgy widget]

it lives on in Arms Col Smash, also the thing it came from

[smoky prawn]

debatable

[proud portal]

It used too be in beta and it was between onslaught vs siegebreaker. Though I wish siegebreaker became a passive buff with onslaught 😔

[solemn oyster]

honestly if they made arms fast paced and bursty again i would stop complaining for good

[clever path]

Especially on weeks like sanguine right , ravager basically into nothing and wasting it

[quiet bramble]

Am I nuts, but I find current fury fast paced as hell. Only way to make fury faster would be to give it ogcds.

[weak tartan]

but how is it fun to do damage every 1:30mn instead of every 20sec every pull. even in your 1:30 CDS you lose damage to every class in the game which is funny

[edgy widget]

problem was it created a bunch of awkward timing problems (similar to SkS + CS for Arms) and it felt too much like Arms rather than Fury

[thorny cove]

the wod one was different than the bfa siegbreaker it just did damage and knocked the enemy

[sullen tendon]

i wish we had an aoe spender other than rampage

[edgy widget]

like I know some people liked it, but onslaught fits a lot better imo

[smoky prawn]

you said playwise and not dps wise, dps wise ravager was superior imo, but i like the current playstyle

[wraith wharf]

main thing i miss about s2 is onslaught

[solemn oyster]

fury is fast paced, but braindead

[edgy widget]

spec out of Annihilator and press Slam 🙃

[olive wraith]

You mean lose in st no matter what (s2)

[clever path]

[sullen tendon]

slam in aoe lol

[solemn oyster]

thunderclap

[sullen dove]

tru, start practicing for next xpac

[wraith wharf]

start making weak aruas that play thunderstruck

[proud portal]

Yeah I feel that, why I think the solution could've been a passive buff that I think we had for a legendary in SL? I am unsure I remember siege breaker having a small mini chance of having 5%? damage increase.

[sullen tendon]

inb4 slayer fury warrior out damage mountain thane 100% of the time thru pure damage increases and bleed buffs

[weak tartan]

you must be playing another game. go to sim wise we did more single target then now. damage wise was better both aoe and single target. Onslaught giving you enrage 60% uptime too means you dont afk "which we are now afking alot mid pull". in season 2 we were spamming damage, we had biggest single target in dungeons

[clever path]

Does thunder clap eats enrage proc for rampage btw ? Last time I tried it out, after tc I couldn’t do rampage , or was it just cause I ran out of rage

[olive wraith]

We have significantly more st now wdym. Enrage uptime hasn’t changed between seasons

[solemn oyster]

oh i pray that we get bleed management in slayer, that would be so much fun. make reck snapshot bleeds too

[sullen tendon]

60% enrange uptime???????? are you missing gcds?

[edgy widget]

yeah but people complained about that too, cause SL Fury performance was dictated by how well 3 or 4 RNG buffs lined up

[edgy widget]

"eat enrage?" I don't know what you mean

[wraith wharf]

i think the take away here is that people will complain about anything

[edgy widget]

Thunder Clap costs rage, so yeah if you spend too much you can't Rampage

[clever path]

Like does it use the enrage proc , the one that allows you to rampage.
Oh I see

[solemn oyster]

rampage isnt procced, it spends rage

[edgy widget]

partially, but that wasn't really an out of line complaint

Rampage triggers Enrage, it does not itself require Enrage to be used

[weak tartan]

go in the pin messages Archimitros pinned for T30 and T31 damage upgrade and you will know that T30 is more damage and more "not afk moments"

[edgy widget]

• you generate rage
• press rampage
• get enrage

[olive wraith]

Idk what you mean by afk moments. If you mean empty gcd you’re playing it wrong

[edgy widget]

T31 is demonstrably stronger than T30 in ST

and there are very few if any "afk moments" if you play correctly

[proud portal]

😔

[edgy widget]

like measured in single digits

[sullen tendon]

if you are afk you dont have whilrwind or slam on your bars

[edgy widget]

you can also always cycle charge during that time if ya want

[midnight escarp]

who else is voting for S1 set bonus?

[weak tartan]

afk moment happens no matter how good you manage your gcds it will happen. and yes I press everything even whirwind slam in both aoe and single target. I even press normal bloodthirst, but afk momemnts still exist and I dont know how you like that

[solemn oyster]

yeah i dont really understand how you can do the rotation to avoid dead gcds with this build, if someoen can enlighten me i'd appreciate it

[olive wraith]

I have next to zero empty gcd. Also which pin were you referring to? I don’t see a damage comparison one

[edgy widget]

because it happens once every couple minutes? this is the definition of making mountains out of molehills

you know what also has dead GCDs? Season 2's T30 build!

[midnight escarp]

ANYTHING over what we have now

[weak tartan]

bro you just can't. people who say afk moment doesn't exist are in something else im sorry guys but thats it

[sullen tendon]

i havent had any afk moments in my rotation since the start of the season. use dancing blades if you are afking during rotation. it generates more rage through auto attacks.

[edgy widget]

Like do yall seriously not remember starving out of RB charges, only having Bloodthirst to fill, but not using it because you can't give up your 4 stack before 100% crit?

you press WW, yay

big gaming right there

[proud portal]

Also what you guys voting for the appearance set btw?

[modest condor]

im not voting for appearance since i dont care, but my favourite is s2

[ashen socket]

S1 appearance is the best imo

[edgy widget]

I don't care about the appearance, I have about a million tmogs in my collection already

[sullen tendon]

season 1 becuase I missed the helm from catalyst and dont want to farm mythic

[olive wraith]

You have to cast bt basically every other gcd. It spaces out your slam/ww casts a bit more and makes the rotation flow

[edgy widget]

you can still get it from catalyst

[dapper goblet]

vote season 1

[proud portal]

You can still get it from catalyst

[clever belfry]

exedooting

[fiery thorn]

people are voting for another season of bloodthirst build, fury players are braindead...

[ashen socket]

I also want s1 cause if they bring the elite tmog back then I want to grind it

[sullen tendon]

only if you have a season 1 piece though which I threw away in season 2

[weak tartan]

s2 s3 are both bloothirst. if you vote s1 it means execute which I dont like with fury personally

[remote yew]

S3 Gamers Rise up!

[olive wraith]

S2 is hardly a bloodthirst tier. You cast it once every 15s(also please can you link the pinned message you mentioned)

[wraith wharf]

hopefully new colors for whatever appearance gets voted in

[fiery thorn]

it buffs bloodthirst but it doesnt make you play the bloodthirst build

[sullen tendon]

I just dont understand peoples mindset regading season 2 vs season 3. season 3 is an upgrade from season 2 in every way. you instantly get 3x the charges with better damage buffs to them and dont have any downsides.

[hoary roost]

S3 is one of the most boring things i’ve played ever

[weak tartan]

Doesnt matter what build it is refered to, what matters is we had ravager, the coolest fury abilitie of all time

[north edge]

i want bladestorm back

[sour frigate]

i liked bs build

[compact knot]

enrage uptime has been a joke this entire expansion, its rarely not up if your playing good lol, talking about enrage uptime is such a joke

[sullen tendon]

protection has ravager.

[clever belfry]

but you actually get to play the fun variation of the spec

[quiet geyser]

inb4 too many specs get split votes, and blizz ends up letting you play with any tier set 🙃

[olive wraith]

Why would I want to play the same build for 3/4 season of the expansion. How is that not boring

[wraith wharf]

fun is subjective and is just an opinion. dont state it has a fact.

[weak tartan]

Maybe season 3 is better for you raid folks. but in m+ season 3 tier set disgust me so hard. fury should have consistent damage "season 2 ravager" not a 1:30 and lose with it

[clever path]

i play only m+ , dont see an issue with tier set this season

[onyx swallow]

holy real

[sullen tendon]

fury has not had a new ability added to the spec for almost 10 years. but were still playing it.

[clever belfry]

my opinion is correct.

[olive wraith]

We aren’t that bad in m+ current season

[dapper goblet]

season 3 fury is dogshit

[weak tartan]

Ravager will still be cool in 20 years upward!

[proud portal]

People who are basically saying season 2 are mostly heroic raiders from last tier who literally didn't want to change their playstyle in Season 3 and whine how they're 'not doing much damage on the boss' before when it's clearly false even in M+.

and also saying Season 3 is bad in M+ is flat out wrong especially if you get your stats and trinkets right you're doing a lot of damage if you're pressing your rotation right. (Only thing you probably should advocate is removing AOE cap and give us small OF buff)

[weak tartan]

ye we were never bad in m+ anyway. but the feeling of this season 3 build isnt fun, becuase you are losing in your cd window. what we had in season 2 was consistent damage throw all dungeon. I was even beating SP and mages in some keys. but now im beaten by every other class almost

[stone epoch]

Why can't bloodthirst stack from start to finish in combat? 1% dmg increase for 5 stacks 5% increase for 20 stacks 10% dmg increase for 50 stacks of bloodthirst this effect stacks all the way to 200%.

[dapper goblet]

L

[onyx swallow]

L

[clever belfry]

this would be the good outcome btw

@overseer.4868 fury is ass in s3 m+
Im not a "" "heroic raider" "". The set works well (numerically) in raid but its just LLLL in keys

[quiet geyser]

? thats not true at all

[proud portal]

I barely if at all loose my CD window and usually cruise right into it at perfect timing. Are you hitting Avatar right away or OF?

[olive wraith]

We have slightly less aoe than s2 currently. And significantly more st/prio damage

[stone epoch]

how's dmg with with lego+trinkets looking like?

[solemn oyster]

There are also people who dislike S3's playstyle like me and others just because, well, we dont like it, and dont want to play annhilliator for 2 seasons in a row

[sinful spoke]

s2 copers lost 💀

[sullen tendon]

if your dungeon parses ( THE MOST IMPORTANT PARSES IN THE ENTIRE GAME) dont look like this dont complain about season 3

[quiet geyser]

its literally just preference.

[clever belfry]

don't u get 99s all dungs by playing like a 22

[proud portal]

Not many people are saying that as their preference. There's a good chunk saying they just don't like it at all or flatly saying wrong stuff about it's damage

[sullen tendon]

i have no idea i just find it funny that there are dungeon parses on warcraft logs at all

[quiet geyser]

so you're calling silm, critcake, xeos and myself heroic raiders?

[solemn oyster]

not liking it at all is as valid as liking it

[weak tartan]

bro I didnt start playing fury yesterday ofcourse I press my cds on the best window. I just dont like the playstyle and how shit it award me. I dont like how im playing slam it is a shit button, I dont like that I wait for my odyn fury to do some damage but it is actually shit too. everything I press feels un awrding except bloodpath. this is how I feel playing this season

[rigid fulcrum]

Yeah I really don't understand trying to be a gatekeeper on a subjective opinion, I just like AM better bud

[stone epoch]

yeah if you do flat out 23+ you get 99s because not many do them

[dapper goblet]

season 3 bad because -10k dps no stick man

[clever belfry]

s3 bad cause warrior is NOT the main character this tier despite lego

[sullen tendon]

warrior is never meta unless its prot

[sinful spoke]

by lego do u mean this thing?

[proud portal]

Then they nerf prot into the ground for over performing

[weak tartan]

I even forgot the leggo part that is weaker than your own cds. BRING JAILER BACK

[stone epoch]

lego does 8%dmg overall no?

[olive wraith]

Isn’t fury performing better than the other leggo looters

[quiet geyser]

barely

[sinful spoke]

sometimes 10% depending on the fight

[young swan]

think only arms is better

[edgy widget]

only one I'll ever get

[solemn oyster]

only because fury is slightly better tuned than the other ons

[weak tartan]

this is how I feel playing that golden piece of crab

[sullen tendon]

paladins still get picked over us because they have bres

[proud portal]

^

[young swan]

that has nothing to do with the relative value of the lego

[stone epoch]

I beat a paly today with lego but he was owning me in AoE

[sour frigate]

its nuts cuz its also 496 main hand weapon lol

[clever belfry]

surely ret gets good value from it
crit for the dot during cds
big time to press after cds

[olive wraith]

If we pick literally any other tier bonus we’re gonna be behind the other leggo looters

[sinful spoke]

be possitive archi u get urs tomorrow 💯 🔥

[calm mantle]

how does a 416 warlock come thsi close to a warrior in dps, im 449 btw.

[solemn oyster]

the warrior might be trolling

[proud portal]

Lock is just always broken in PVE. Or warrior is trolling idk

[weak tartan]

Hopefully season 2 lovers are sleeping and we beat you seaosn 3 folks at the end of the votes

[sullen tendon]

why are you only doing 88k

[olive wraith]

Idk what ilvl are you. Got logs?(can we take slow mode off yet )

[calm mantle]

Because I'm half asleep and it was an 11 so I was just chilling. Also I made the alt like 15 hours ago so still gearing properly but no excuse I guess.

[weak tartan]

This vote thing seperated us warrior players for what guys. Let us unite again and vote SEASON 2 all together in 1 hand

[sullen tendon]

im gonna need to see logs for anyone supporting season 2

[solemn oyster]

if we get season 3 i reroll, no unity only division

[quiet geyser]

"so any bonuses you choose will be tuned to be as strong as any others."

Seriously how the fuck are they gonna do this with s1 fury tierset

[sullen tendon]

people complaining about season 3 have demon hunter alts

[signal falcon]

If it’s S3 I’m just playing SoD until War Within… the thought of playing RA/Anni for that long 🤢

[weak tartan]

season 3 only good thing is we have the biggest leach of all time. cant think of another reason

[dapper goblet]

@sullen tendon https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/xeos#zone=33

[proud portal]

My only parse logs was almost being at 90 average in s2 vs my 86.9 s3 but I am still not fully timed everything at 20+ for both tyrannical and fortified so lol

[clever belfry]

not playing my warr past weeklies this tier 👍

[olive wraith]

S2 would only maybe beat s3 on voti: council? Is that it. Abberus:zaqali, maybe nelth, sark?

[onyx swallow]

unreal W

[sullen tendon]

my next question is why are you 9/9 mythic and still think season 2 is better than season 3?

[solemn oyster]

xeos goated

[hallow sphinx]

@sullen tendon here to gaslight https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/43561493#zone=33

[dapper goblet]

because fury played better in season 2

[sullen tendon]

you linked abberus

[clever belfry]

Cause AM is more fun
the new tier set does fuck all outside SMALL window burst aoe (read: works fine in weekly 20s, bad in higher keys)

[south kayak]

I’m gonna choose season 2 because I prefer the aoe during that

[solemn oyster]

i thought you asked fror season 2 logs

[dapper goblet]

Abberus is season 2 goober. Warrior is my alt this tier.

[sinful spoke]

My brother in christ u asked for season 2 logs

[hallow sphinx]

youre a windwalker

[zealous condor]

Bro why on earth are people voting s3

[sullen tendon]

check out my mythic parses

[proud portal]

He said anyone supporting season 2 tier set my guy, he asking them for this tier and what their progress is.

[olive wraith]

Because s3 numbers are better

[clever belfry]

🍵

[red yew]

Omg twins

[hollow ridge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/bleeding-hollow/grazlekk#zone=33 not as gas as the others but id only agree s2 better to play in aoe/cleave situations

[south kayak]

S3 aoe

[fallen grove]

Ravager > odyns fury/annihilator

[hallow sphinx]

🫶

[sullen tendon]

i said for anyone supporting season 2 not specifically season 2 logs

[solemn oyster]

link main

[olive wraith]

S3 is less behind in aoe than s2 is behind in st. It’s not like s3 is horrible in aoe

[clever belfry]

i also dont play warr in raid cause we have another human warrior in guild so i just play fotm on my alt.

[south kayak]

They need to buff fury aoe by a lot or I’m just simply not playing warrior

[dapper goblet]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/xeoswhopper

[smoky prawn]

whopper

[left perch]

[haughty token]

what trinkets should i use for m+ from these 3, 483 augury 489 Might of the ocean, 489 rezans

[zealous condor]

s3 is fucking mind numbing, how does anyone want to play this for another 6 months

[proud portal]

It's literally small downgrade.

[weak tartan]

odyn fury should be goated in aoe but it isnt, and that what make me hate this tier even more

[mental rune]

Might/Aug

[olive wraith]

So you want to play the same build for 3 out of 3 seasons instead of playing 2/2?

[fallen grove]

Having to use slam and normal BT sometimes to get rage is cringe

[sullen tendon]

i stopped mythic raiding in bfa because the power gap between mythic and heroic gear was basically nothing at that point and it was too much work and dedication

[south kayak]

They should make the CDR work per mob hit and make the bonus have the full effect on cleaved targets

[quiet geyser]

Its just preference. Us S2 enjoyers just like prio'ing rampage over BT

[proud portal]

Augury I've notice procs like crazy not only in damage but also just pure buffing. So Might/Aug.

If you have cataclysmic use it for specific heavy AOE dungeons

[zealous condor]

I want to play the one that doesnt make my lose every form of brain cell I have ever had. Season 3 fury is a fucking joke

[smoky prawn]

raiding mythic for gear lols

[molten relic]

After playing anni for this season I never wanna press raging blow again ngl

[olive wraith]

Don’t understand. but you do you

[wraith wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/love-legos-birthday-gif-10140925

[clever belfry]

True kings want all sets to be available so we can play
2set aberrus 2set amirdrassil
and play AM OF Rav build
if you disagree youre wrong, thanks

[sullen tendon]

what other point is there

[icy sentinel]

Only correct take

[haughty token]

i have a normal one

[weak tartan]

man it would be insane in everbloom/BRH becuase we just hide our details in both dungeons

[zealous condor]

what dont u understand. i want to be able to have buttons on every pack in a key and not do large damage on 1 pack and then be useless on the next

[south kayak]

Im not even gonna play fury anyway since it’s shit tuned and blizzard never wants to buff warrior

[sinful spoke]

Thats what ive been saying just let us choose any tierset from all tiers

[proud portal]

Augury is still one of the best trinkets from this raid tier I will still take it given it's value. Heck I am going to farm fyrakk still for it.

Cataclysmic it's good for heavy AOE dungeons like black rook hold but the damage fall off if there's intermediry period like in dawn

[weak tartan]

That is exactly why season 2 tier set is better then season 3

[quiet geyser]

its gonna happen man. No way fury is the only split spec. They gonna give u the choice

[wraith wharf]

whats that got to do with the building blocks?

[zealous parrot]

@vivid tusk yo

[smoky prawn]

having 9/9 on your character

[olive wraith]

You have OF at least once every pack. Sometimes 2. It’s only slightly weaker than s2

[clever belfry]

boop

[haughty token]

i meant a normal cataclysmic abrand

[clever belfry]

FREEDOM

[zealous condor]

I adore competing with the tank on the next pack lmao

[fallen grove]

OF is weak as hell

[sullen tendon]

its really not

[olive wraith]

Tank is beating you? Might be a player prob

[solemn oyster]

feral druid is cutthrought

[zealous condor]

Nah

[clever belfry]

[weak tartan]

man you have to understand that odyn fury alone is tank damage no cap

[sinful spoke]

I just know demo warlocks want t2 only and nothing else

[zealous condor]

go watch the 3600 warriors compete with their tanks lmao

[oblique trail]

Wake up hate skyhold close phone

[sinful spoke]

[zealous condor]

cus thats what they do

[sullen tendon]

OF is weak if you are hitting avatar and OF right after eachother instead of waiting for dancing blades to run out

[fallen grove]

Compared to having cds almost every pull during s2 it def is

[olive wraith]

It’s really not lol

[zealous condor]

it literally is

please go watch some gameplay

[weak tartan]

but go to any video man on keys

[olive wraith]

Critcake does fine

[weak tartan]

odyn alone is tank damage

[smoky prawn]

actual w

[zealous condor]

crit literally complains

[quiet geyser]

also would be fun if we could use multiple sets.. tier31 in raid and tier 30 for m+

[weak tartan]

no he is not

[zealous condor]

about this tier

[clever belfry]

u missed slowmode arch

[solemn oyster]

guys remember to stay civilized, in the end its a stupid filler season

[zealous condor]

and about competing with the tank

on pulls that he doesnty have CDs

[olive wraith]

He complains about it but his damage is fine overall

[south kayak]

Like I said, They should make the CDR work per mob hit and make the bonus have the full effect on cleaved targets, or buff OF by 200%

[zealous condor]

u picked the worst guy to reference

[rigid fulcrum]

I don't really watch a lot of other warriors but at 3450 if I go into a pack without reck/av I'm competing with the tank

[proud portal]

I would blame it on the fact blizzard just never bother buffing or touching warrior compared all the other classes this season thus far for raging blow talent set💀

[weak tartan]

his damage overall is bad becuase you dont have damage outside of your cds. its that simple

[sinful spoke]

How

[oblique trail]

Oh great maybe I go back to real degen hours to catch it the next time

[smoky prawn]

yah im at 3400 aswell, same shit, my vdh has a bigger bar than me and its depressing sometimes

[zealous condor]

DAMN THATS CRAZY

ITS ALMOST LIKE THIS TIERSET IS DOGSHIT

[south kayak]

Our damage is not fine when havoc, demo, bm, Mages, and who knows what else shit on it

[sinful spoke]

Have yall considered maybe ur just bad 💀

[sullen tendon]

the real dealbraker for season 4 for me is if they add dragonflight dungeons back for the season. fuck all of the DF dungeons they all suck ass and arent fun.

[olive wraith]

lol

Ok bud

[zealous condor]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[clever belfry]

i woke up at 6am with 14 dms so i had to check

[zealous condor]

dogshit 3400 players

[solemn oyster]

honestly they should make it a full bfa season, just give all bfa dungeons

[olive wraith]

We’re upper middle

[zealous condor]

dogshit top 0.1%

[proud portal]

It's almost like your complaints is mostly directed on blizzard neglecting the class abilities and never touching raging blow etc in any buffs.

[sinful spoke]

I aint gon lie tho my vdh pumps so fucking hard spedially with fyrakks tainted rag

[smoky prawn]

thats gaslighting yourself imo

[clever path]

Ragefire chasm next season m+ i feel it coming

[olive wraith]

It’s really not lol

[wraith wharf]

all this talk and Blizzard is pulling an Ozymandias and has already decided 35 minutes before posting the polls

[clever belfry]

same im just 3400

[south kayak]

That’s fair but do you not think we need help on aoe?

[zealous condor]

if they wanna give us some actual class balance thats great

[sullen tendon]

if you think fury players are dogshit becuase an overtuned demonhunter is doing 3 mil damage in aoe theres something wrong with your thinking

[zealous condor]

but that wont happen

so give me a not dogshit tier set

[solemn oyster]

fury isnt broken but its not bad, the op meta classes are just op

[oblique trail]

Classic I should also get someone to notify me immediately with screenshots

[zealous condor]

that feels good

[sinful spoke]

They all were bro

[olive wraith]

Aoe is weaker this tier. I’m not arguing that. But overall we’re in a better place than s2 post aug

[solemn oyster]

if u thin kits furies fault than ur skilless

[sinful spoke]

Every tierset this xpac

Was shit

[zealous condor]

Season 2 was the best feeling by far

[solemn oyster]

all the tier sets for all classes have been mid af

[clever belfry]

be happy u dont

[proud portal]

Havoc DH's has always out dps us, Demo always did this as well with BM given they all don't have an AOE cap. So maybe have blizzard remove the ridiculous AOE cap on us that we were restricted too at the end of BFA

[sinful spoke]

Some just leas shitty than the others

[weak tartan]

Anyone saying this tier is doing good is just copping hard.
1.You dont have damage in big aoe pulls, even with your big dik cd
2. you dont do damage at all outside of your cds
HOW CAN YOU WANT THIS TIER???

[zealous condor]

ok so give me the less shitty one

ez

[oblique trail]

Yeah I am

[solemn oyster]

fuck it

[zealous condor]

cus it aint season 3

[solemn oyster]

we deserve nothing

[sinful spoke]

Yeah season 3

[solemn oyster]

they should give us nothing

[olive wraith]

We are literally better this tier lmao

[young swan]

zone into the raid

[oblique trail]

Don't want to be reminded of this place more than I am already

[zealous condor]

In raid its fine

[weak tartan]

Define good?
tank damage good?XD

[olive wraith]

If you dislike the playstyle that’s one thing. But we doing better numbers wise

[zealous condor]

in keys its shit

[sullen tendon]

how is this description any different from the other seasons

[proud portal]

I literally do my rotation correctly, odyn's fury first then avatar so I get odyn's fury back in like 10 seconds lol

[rigid fulcrum]

I play with outlaw and BM they both do quite a bit more overall, similar on bosses but they are just more versatile than we are. Same with mages, warlocks, well played rets, obviously havoc as well.

[zealous condor]

ok thats fine

[young swan]

its fine in keys

[zealous condor]

I dont care aboiut numbers

[young swan]

its just not dh rogue mage

[zealous condor]

its fine but its lame

[clever belfry]

i will not cause raid on fury still depressing

[young swan]

lmfao

[zealous condor]

i dont care abiout numbers I care about feel

[weak tartan]

your tank is just bad sadly cause he should beat you outside of your avatar

[zealous condor]

it feels like ass

[sinful spoke]

Bro in legit too dps almost every key ive even out damaged rogues and dhs

[clever belfry]

dh rogue mage lock aug ele enh boomi

[sinful spoke]

Its not bad

[south kayak]

Idk, think we need big help in aoe

[sinful spoke]

The tierset is good

[young swan]

tierset good just let it cleave

fixed

[proud portal]

"Season 3 is bad guys." - Heroic Fyrakk kill

[young swan]

stop whining

[solemn oyster]

there are a lot of classes that need more help than fury

[sinful spoke]

And the problen doesnt lie in our tiersetit

[south kayak]

And cdr on air

[young swan]

no

[sinful spoke]

It lies i. The fact we’re aoe capped

[south kayak]

Aoe

[solemn oyster]

heroic raid doenst mean anything tbh

[oblique trail]

Poopie damage from all

[clever belfry]

yeah but we don't care about them

[weak tartan]

im talking keys. saying tank damage obvously mean keys

[smoky prawn]

ye

[solemn oyster]

u have 4 dks

its not acompetitive environment

[weak tartan]

unless im talking chinese

[zealous condor]

if they let it cleave thats great

[young swan]

keys are minigame content no one cares

[zealous condor]

id vote for it

[sullen tendon]

they should lower gcd on fury so we can weedout the non fury players

[shell flint]

I just checked the poll, I can’t believe Season 3 is the overwhelming winner

[clever belfry]

me on beta finding this information

[proud portal]

They been whining for past 30 mins

[olive wraith]

We are still fine in keys though

[shell flint]

I thought people hated the OF/Annihilator playstyle lol

[clever belfry]

wow wouldve died in bfa without keys king

[young swan]

we wouldve been better off

[sinful spoke]

I got one for u hold on

Hero tindral

[zealous condor]

so the game would be just the raid?

[shell flint]

L take

[young swan]

yeah

[zealous condor]

yeah thats super lame

[proud portal]

how is that pally low af wtf?

[zealous condor]

boomer take

[young swan]

keys are just content u do so u can clear raid faster

[oblique trail]

I got one for you hold on let me find my hc screenshot

[young swan]

everyone knows this

[onyx swallow]

feel like it is likely influenced by the pin

[oblique trail]

Of me beating everyone

[zealous condor]

I mean for some sure

[smoky prawn]

its the reason some even paly the game lol

[sinful spoke]

Thats my friend and he mains healer plus his ilvl is low on that toon

[zealous condor]

but not for everyone

[sullen tendon]

now imagine your damage if you had to throw out ravager then wait a second then hit avatar then hit roar then hit whirlwind then hit rampage

[proud portal]

Ah

[shell flint]

Nah a lot of raiders think this

[clever belfry]

0/8 b8 xantager

[zealous condor]

some people only do raid so they can do higher M+

[olive wraith]

Wonder what the “tuning” would be for each tier

[solemn oyster]

i only play wow cuz of keys

[zealous condor]

its a give and take

[young swan]

thought it was pretty good

[sinful spoke]

I know my dmg like that cause i played last season

[weak tartan]

ye bro raid is just the better contetn wiping 300 times to a 5 mechanic boss becuase that 1 man in the 20man raid cant play properly

[sinful spoke]

And raided with it

[clever belfry]

American

[odd star]

oof

[young swan]

best gear comes from raid

wonder why

[young swan]

CANADIAN

[proud portal]

Literally only complaint I have is odyns fury damage could use a tiny buff, and removing AOE cap when every other class had it removed other than warrior.

[sinful spoke]

Holy fucking based

[zealous condor]

For fury?

[weak tartan]

this has to be the funniest reason to raid I read

[clever belfry]

litetally on the American continent

[sullen tendon]

best gear comes from vault cause im too lazy to raid

[random raptor]

I haven't been playing long enough to add much value to this conversation, but I do prefer the s2 rotation to the s3 one
It felt more consistent and fun to use in my opinion

[shell flint]

OF doesn’t have an AOE cap and the whirlwind thing was always capped, it wasn’t new to SL

[dense idol]

I just dont like having no filler, so I dont like the S3 set

[olive wraith]

S2 needs a better st buff. But you run into the fury problem where st buffs aoe

[shell flint]

Blade Flurry also kept it’s cap

[clever belfry]

based

[olive wraith]

We have no less filler now than before

[shell flint]

Slam’s the filler, BT cd is low enough that it shouldn’t be an issue

[smoky prawn]

used to be fillers are now rotation, idk if thats cfool

[sinful spoke]

U complaining about the tierset not being god tier in mythic plus when mythic plus is side content is hilarious to me

[shell flint]

WW is still there too

[proud portal]

WW was not capped so low though, before SL it allowed warriors hit all targets across them. Then you look at DH, BM having 0 AOE cap on their fucking pets and I want to smh

[oblique trail]

Clearing the most difficult bosses before mountains of nerfs is infinitely more fun for me than clearing the same dungeons on slightly higher scaling each time I enter the key until my class has to be swapped out for one specific class that just does it better

[sinful spoke]

Minigame andies 💀

[shell flint]

What? Whirlwind cleave was always 5 targets

[zealous condor]

How dare u enjoy different types of content

https://tenor.com/view/chatting-bean-twitch-gif-22634143

[solemn oyster]

whirlwind cleave has been 5 targets since bfa

[dense idol]

All of our abilities are conditional or have a cooldown thats the definition of no filler, I dont care if the cooldown is low it still has one, when 1 in 10000 cast of spells I have to wait a GCD then its a feel bad moment

[proud portal]

The damage it self did, the abilities that allowed the extra AOE did not.

[wanton mirage]

I got to 1800 for the first time ever. My very first season I stepped into pvp. It's the result of staying in LFG simulator while queing for 25 keys. I keep getting into solo before I got an invite

[solemn oyster]

no, its always cleaved 5 targets only

you dont press ww for damage

never have

[sinful spoke]

?

[shell flint]

Whirlwind’s damage itself was hard capped in SL which was then removed, but the cleave buff has never not been 5

[sullen tendon]

i hope they add the ai dungeon members to solo que so i dont have to wait 55 minutes per match

[solemn oyster]

(other than the peak of shadowlands aoe)

[sinful spoke]

💀💀💀💀