fury

[quiet geyser]

Not going to lie, the fast pace moving (baiting, gating, leaping, proper placement), in smolderon intermission is actually so fun for fury lol. Although feel like we have to work for it so much harder than any other spec cuz of spear 🤣 and also getting everything aligned

[edgy widget]

I bait every single set - the first set is just the furthest

[olive wraith]

My fave is gnarlroot

[spare otter]

Yea I just noticed my CDs were coming up a bit earlier so I thought halfway would be fine but ig not

[edgy widget]

I don't bother to use spear, I don't even recommend it unless your group is gonna let you stand in the flames (which is survivable)

[olive wraith]

The ad pading is top notch

[quiet geyser]

we did most of our prog before the nerfs (so got A LOT of pulls/practice), I almost had it down to a science with spear haha

[hard relic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeE8rcIKM5I
this video is pretty damn good (he has a big dam school valedictorian hat as you can see)

[olive wraith]

Who is this guy

Maybe he should be a yellow name

[warm crag]

i think this guy got rolled on his first zaqul kill

[edgy widget]

only difference, is I'd recommend using Leap instead of running away from the boss - you (should) get more consistent positioning

[spare otter]

Thanks I have actually seen it and incorporated a lot of what he said to do. It's been 2-3 weeks since I watched it tho lol I might have been confused with a couple things.

[edgy widget]

use these little runes as markers

basically just leap onto that rune and you'll get knocked back where you need to go

[spare otter]

Is that when you land or when you're in the air?

(when you jump you go further)

[edgy widget]

na, you wanna be landed before the knockback; if you're still in the air you'll get yeeted into lava

[spare otter]

Yea happened to me a couple times lol

[edgy widget]

basically as soon as he goes in the air, leap to your bait spot, get knocked back, wait a second for your orbs to jettison, then run & charge back in

you can run out too, I just find leap to be more consistent positioning; sometimes you're slow running or w/e when you try to fit that last GCD in

[spare otter]

Yea sometimes I'm too slow so I end up jumping and pray I don't get yeeted into the lava haha

[edgy widget]

also idk if he covered it, but you wanna pot at around 1:15 before you pick up the first set of orbs - that'll fully cover the buff window and help align your later pot with the buff during intermission 4

[spare otter]

Ty I didn't know that

I always potted as soon as I was gonna use my CDs

Think that's smolderon covered

Now I just need a vid of tindral explaining when to use CDs...

[edgy widget]

I actually used my first a couple seconds late here, but you want the overlap to look something like this

pot lasts 30s and ignited essence lasts 20, so you've got plenty of coverage in either direction

[spare otter]

Mmm thing is though

Leggo isn't buffed by pot right?

Because for first intermission

[edgy widget]

it is not

[spare otter]

I use Lego active when I get orbs since I got a couple seconds before my CDs come up

[edgy widget]

Assuming you're in 2nd dragonriding group

• open with OF alone

• use OF on first set of roots

• full CDs on second roots

• divebomb third roots

• OF on 2nd platform shield

• full CDs on first roots

• OF second roots

• divebomb third roots

• full CD 2nd platform shield
  and repeat

basically you're just using CDs on shield or roots

[spare otter]

Thanks ima save that

[edgy widget]

even if you're in the first divebomb group (which I don't recommend, it's worse for Wars), it's still basically the same thing - use cooldowns on Tindral shield or roots

I'd also recommend using Titanic Rage over Dancing Blades, at least until you get comfortable with the fight - it's just way easier to have that snap burst without worrying about Enrage or WW buffs

[spare otter]

Yea might be a good idea but Im so used to DB now that switching to titanic rage will screw me over probably.

Also

[calm mantle]

Doing dragonsoul transmog run and ofc it drops class piece for every other class but warrior :c

[spare otter]

If you're in the 2nd divebomb group why do you divebomb on the third set of roots? Might be a stupid question since I don't know much of the fight on mythic

[edgy widget]

there isn't a divebomb for each set

[spare otter]

Oh okay of course

[edgy widget]

• first set gets bombed by the first group
• second set is au natural (also why you want full CDs here, despite the delay)
• third set gets bombed by the second group

[spare otter]

Alright got it thanks

[sinful spoke]

good idea tbh ill try that

sometimes the fight gets so laggy there that my ww doesnt go off at all

[edgy widget]

A lot of logs go with Dancing Blades for the better boss damage, because honestly it is more important than roots, but it's a rather small amount of boss damage in the grand scheme of things

So yeah, I'd suggest starting with TR and changing over once you're comfortable with all the timings and/or decide you need more boss damage

[sinful spoke]

what do u think for leggo though? sending it right after OF on first roots?

[edgy widget]

I haven't given it ton of thought tbh, because some of us aren't good enough to get it

[sinful spoke]

thats what ive been doing but sometimes i guess i dont press my buttons correctly and i end up not having my OF up in time

[edgy widget]

but generally speaking, probably also just use it on roots or boss shield, as long as the 3s lock won't get you killed

[sinful spoke]

boss shield hmm

safer option

💀

[edgy widget]

Well it's 2m, so timing wise you could just use it on pull and then on each shield

strictly speaking, you'll get a lot more damage out of it if you use it on the roots, but that can be dangerous in some situations (mostly fire beams), so you'd probably just want to experiment a little bit

[sinful spoke]

yeah beams is what killed me

[edgy widget]

if you wanna try to use it on roots for the extra Mark damage, you'd can just aim for first roots of each platform and then somewhere at the end of the fight - the fire beams don't typically run through the group on those

[sinful spoke]

tbf the beams that killed me were the 2nd set of them that came down because i ended up moving late cause of the fact my OF wasnt up in time

[edgy widget]

Like I said, I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about it though; I'll let ya know in a few months when I get one 😆

[sinful spoke]

nah next week%%

[edgy widget]

the second set of roots on the first platform should have Avatar to break (don't use it on the pull) - that's the natural set that most people will try to break to dodge fire, which means you're really hitting trees more than roots themselves

[atomic nymph]

Issue with legendary on Tindral is that you have to break your roots in order to do it - Won't let you use while rooted, so it requires you to OF first, which might not be that problematic

[sinful spoke]

yeah iots stupid

[atomic nymph]

Even if the target you're using it on is in melee range, it just won't be useable

[sinful spoke]

i think i got it down now though 💀

[edgy widget]

True, but if you use it on the first set on each platform, you should have OF up for them anyway

and you don't wanna use the axe on the full-cd sets, because they'll typically die before you get all your CDs + axe off anyway

but yeah, the simple version would just be use the axe on pull and each shield

[atomic nymph]

Yeah, I mean, I haven't been there on mythic. But in heroic it's kinda ass to get off, because the roots are dead in a few globals so sometimes you just don't milk any juice out of it

[edgy widget]

they do last quite a bit longer on M, plus you have a bunch of tree spawns, but once dragons start dive bombing they're kinda toast

[restive peak]

They are def not dead in a few seconds on mythic lol

[edgy widget]

You're absolutely right though, I wouldn't bother using the axe on H roots - just send it on the boss

[sinful spoke]

this is when ive been using it

[edgy widget]

dive bombing is legit the most fun part of the fight 😆

[sinful spoke]

yeah im on 2nd set tho so i gotta wait a bit

[atomic nymph]

Yeah I think it's going to be a shield use angle for me

Also, opinions on eating the circle on smolderon during gateway one instead of hopping out, then just sustaining it with ER? - Suuuurely it won't kill me and lets me have full uptime in cds

[edgy widget]

it's definitely survivable, but I wouldn't recommend it on prog

[atomic nymph]

Warrior theorycrafter told me it's doable, thanks, now I can justify it on prog

[edgy widget]

if your raid will let you get away with it, go for it

between spell reflect, ER, and Bloodbath spam you should outheal it, but your RL and healers are probably going to freak out lol

[atomic nymph]

I'm prob just going to do it untill i fail at it, and then leave it behind. I've had no issues, but only really did it 3-4 times.

[calm mantle]

Is the purple gurthalak from heroic or normal?

[edgy widget]

the downside is that you won't have those cooldowns anywhere else, which means you can't really afford to make any mistakes - even worse if your healers get scared and start dropping externals on you that other people might end up needing to survive

but if you can do it, go right ahead - it is very nice for playing Spear (I just use Roar because I couldn't care less)

[atomic nymph]

Yeah I've informed them in advance that I'm self susatining there so should be all clear - I'm at like 6k vers + aug buffs so sitting at a solid like 25% perma DR from vers

[edgy widget]

Use ER before the hit, then chain Spell Reflect when ER is falling to cover the ass end of the debuff

[sullen dove]

ngl after getting in the groove spear didn’t feel that bad at all, the only one that’s really crimped is first intermission and your buff falls off during spear but the rest should easily get full uptime in with 3 empowered bbs

feels too good to not use on 3rd and 4th intermission

[edgy widget]

if you bait orbs properly you shouldn't have that problem (buff falling during spear)

[atomic nymph]

Yeah that's the plan - At the start i was using both together but resulted in me popping hp pot towards the end tail more often than not then

[sullen dove]

yea I think the problem is when some randomly go infront of you instead of all behind you

I don’t think there’s a way to control that

[edgy widget]

it happens if you're moving when they shoot out

the orbs don't "spawn" around you, they literally jettison out of your body, so if you're moving while they're coming out, their positions will shift

that's why you don't wanna leap/charge back in immediately either - just make sure you stand still for a second after the kb and you should be ok

[sullen dove]

yea I wait for the leap a little but def like sidestep a little bit to make sure I don’t leap thru them when I do

and I knew they come out of the body but I feel it’s random whether they’re behind or infront of you

Cuz I don’t rly move forward

sometimes all 5 are in a nice tight clump and others like 2 are way ahead

[edgy widget]

I don't think I've ever had them come out directly in front of me, but yeah they are a little randomly placed

[sullen dove]

and I don’t move the distance they are separated but ig can try more religiously standing still

regardless even with buff falling off I still shoot out like 4 empowered bbs before spear cuz rather do em when I have buff and not prio spear

like I have 2 charges saved on last fire wave b4 spear charging into boss, I’d need like a second or 2 more of picking up ball delay to fit all 3 in spear and buff

[edgy widget]

Yeah I don't really like the first alignment for that reason

[atomic nymph]

I've had no issue getting 4 in spear buff on first, but i am not delaying it at all on opener for that to line up properly

[sullen dove]

we killed boss now so surely I can be justified in tanking ring

[edgy widget]

just get knocked into the lava and bait orbs even further back! 😛

[sullen dove]

fr boss platform just needs to be like 1 yard bigger radius and lickety split

[tawny slate]

yo, sorry to come on this convo randomly, is there a way to sim which consumables sim higher?

consumables/food etc

[hasty path]

[surreal spade]

Hey I don’t play much wow but I’m trying to hear my warrior and I want to build the stats anyone wanna help me

[dull sierra]

vers mastery

[olive wraith]

Sim every piece you get

[surreal spade]

Sim?

[olive wraith]

Raidbots

It’ll tell you which piece gives you the biggest dps upgrade

If you’ve never done a sim before YouTube should have some how to vids

[hasty path]

we are GAMING

[surreal spade]

Is there a good way to get great gear quick or just a luck thing

[olive wraith]

Are you like new new?

[sinful spoke]

Luck

[olive wraith]

What ilvl we talking about

[surreal spade]

Yes

I have a 70 but never put in a lot of time always played on and off the game. But I really trying to get into it

[olive wraith]

Item level

Like you just hit level 70?

So you’re in quest gear?

[sinful spoke]

You should queue for heroic dungeons

I think they give like 430?

Use that to queue lfr

If ur lucky get that

Farm mythic plus keys and gear up that way

And raid for raid loot

[surreal spade]

Yeah could run non stop dungeons. Hopefully make some gold in the process

[surreal spade]

Yes pretty much

[olive wraith]

Do what cheche says.

Meanwhile do the quest line in emerald dream

[sinful spoke]

^

[olive wraith]

Doing superbloom gives you a veteran track piece once a week as well

Plus you got the weekly in valdrakken (run 4 mythic dungeons) and you get a heroic track piece

Even a fresh 70 should be okay in a m0

[surreal spade]

Would pvp be the same states as mastery and vers?

[olive wraith]

That idk

#pvp would be the place to ask

[clever path]

i have to ask , a friend of ours is playing fury warrior but he's doing very low damage compared to our hunter and demon hunter. we are doing +25 keys and the hunter and demon hunter doing 30 / 40k more damage then him. we have warned him to do more damage but is it normal his damage is so low? he said warriors are not as good in M+ as demonhunter and hunter which i find hard to believe it's such a big difference

so are fury warriors really not that good as he tells us ?

[calm mantle]

Is this a trick question? Clearly if you're doing 25 keys you should know the answer to this.

[clever path]

we are purely a friend group playing together for fun, so i have no idea about what is strong in M+

serious question

[calm mantle]

But if you really don't, Warriors are 5 capped cleave after our initial burst till our cooldowns are back. So we generally will do less damage then classes that aren't capped on AOE.

[clever path]

it just feels bad to remove him but he keeps doing significantly less

[north edge]

I get gapped by 480 dh alts in keys

I’m a megachad 487 fury with leggo

That should tell you something

[clever path]

Ok so it's not his fault then

[north edge]

Doing 24/25s atm

[clever path]

So his class just needs tuning?

[snow edge]

Welcome to poor class tuning

[north edge]

They need to uncap whirlwind

[clever path]

was worried he start slacking in our groups, we were all angry at him for failing a key and hes doing lower damage

[north edge]

Then we can compete

[calm mantle]

Demonhunters are meta right now, BM hunters are just broken and to my knowledge both classes aren't capped at 5 targets. If His only 30-40k below your DH and Hunter his actually performing well in my opinion.

[north edge]

Either that or have the tank only ever pull 5 targets

[tacit crag]

Ngl DPS is rarely why you fail a key at 25 especially this week.

[snow edge]

Also generally if you're failing 25s with a BM / DH / Fury Warrior, it's not because of damage

[north edge]

That’s the only time I’ve beaten those classes

Those bolstering keys where tank doesn’t do huge pulls

[tawny slate]

487

[tidal bear]

does anyone know of a WA that gives a timer for flameshock on mindbender in throne?

[snow edge]

The spell CD timer on nameplates does it I think

[tacit crag]

I suspect one of two things. One, you're 100% correct that you are doing routes and mechanics flawlessly, but all 3 DPS is dog water at their specs and fury is just lower because it's always lower in equal skill. Or two your routes/mechanics are not top tier and you have 13+ deaths in 25s but fail by like 30s and think it's his fault for less DPS. Will a mage or something make up for failed mechanics/routes by simply having more DPS in that scenario? Potentially, but you'd be a bad friend to say it's his fault when the key could have been timed for reasons not related to DPS. If you're all friends and think he's just shit at the game, don't try to push with him, or figure out how you can all succeed despite his perceived failings, as friends.

[full viper]

Fyrakk nerfed let’s go ! We’ve 300 wipes . About time. Finally don’t need to do Normal Fyrak for legendary chance anymore

[north edge]

Most good DHs I play with do like 20% more damage than me

[dense elbow]

As long as he does not die, uses his stun in your set AoE stop rotation and handles his prio interupts, DPS should not be an issue in a 25. If it is, and the diff is only 40k, not the normal 80k, then tell your DH friend to start pressing buttons.

[drowsy sage]

ur dh and hunter are bad if they are only 30-40k ahead

[north edge]

The best way is to get him to reroll dh

I have a 482 dh alt my group likes to bring to keys over my 487 warrior with legendary

And I don’t even know how to play dh

I pop inertia without having eye eye beam

[dense elbow]

As they are friends, and DPS is not their main issue, I say just let him play warrior and have fun. Hard to say what goes wrong though, maybe a vod or something, so we could see what is going on

[north edge]

And essence break into normal unbuffed death sweeps

Still do more damage than fury 😭

[dense elbow]

🫂 we are tanky, bro, we are tanky

[north edge]

I make this very clear when my hunter mate asks for externals every other minute

I’m ok I’ll dstance reflect this

[dense elbow]

Hunter just hardslaps a wall around 27, it is funny

[north edge]

One of the Aug we play with puts on the blistering scales on our hunter

Instead of the tank

lol

[wanton mirage]

Even in 25, there are many hunters in ques who got their ratings in lower keys through just aoe dmg alone. Now most of them are in ques together with us.

[north edge]

And this is just 25s

[dense elbow]

I really hope that friend gang gets a few more key levels up

Oh, how the tables will turn

[wanton mirage]

Its funny when I start a 25 key group and like 10 hunters in que in my key

[north edge]

What I don’t really know atm is if Aug just buffs fury terribly

My damage is mostly above my hunter mates when not with a Aug

But when with a Aug I get beat every time

I think it might be because he dies and gets breezed 2/3 times a key without a Aug sitting him versus not dying with a Aug babying him

[wanton mirage]

Iirc aug cd is 2min , bm cd is 1min right?

[sour frigate]

[hasty path]

they dont know i have legendary...

[edgy widget]

although the burst AoE impact is very strong, stretched out over itme, War has some of the worst returns from Ebon Might

[clever path]

emissary gave me brand rofl

[south kayak]

Pog

[molten relic]

Man it’s impossible to parse well on tindral

3 BM hunters and two havocs in my raid

[south kayak]

Tell them to go full st

[molten relic]

My guild is full of padlords

Beat them on boss damage tho

[south kayak]

So are you

[south kayak]

That’s not a flex considering they’re aoe talented

(Sorry)

Are you on mythic?

[molten relic]

No

They’d be floor pov if it was mythic

[neat ivy]

whats the mastery cap for fury

or is there one? xD

[north edge]

Dam, I guess no invites to groups beyond 26 keys then since they all require Aug

[south kayak]

I don’t think they require aug

[edgy widget]

just use that time to play a good game instead

like diablo 4

[south kayak]

I’ve seen timed keys above 26 with no aug

[north edge]

They don’t but the groups do

I just lfg now since my guild won’t take me to 25+ keys anymore

[south kayak]

Waiting for next season

There’s an announcement for d3 season 30 too, 12 Jan

Soul shards was my favorite seasonal theme

Excited for that

[south kayak]

Your guild does 25 keys?

Damn

[north edge]

The top couple people in the guild does 25-27 keys but above a 25 I’m generally the last option they pick between me and a Ret or BM or Boomy

Which is fair enough since brez/lust are needs sometimes but still a feels bad

[south kayak]

That’s dumb honestly

They suck

Delete guild

Leave

Hit Facebook

Lawyer up

Go to gym

[sour frigate]

can fyralath drop in vault?

[south kayak]

No

[sour frigate]

sadge

just did aotc for it

[clever path]

why does aug look like it does more than brand in keys?

[olive wraith]

Cause it does

[clever path]

but ocean / brand is preferred for M+?

[sour frigate]

brand mostly non-stacked there

[snow edge]

Not at all

[olive wraith]

Is it?

[sour frigate]

ocean-crab maybe

[snow edge]

Might + Aug

[olive wraith]

I swear it’s Aug ocean

[snow edge]

Yeh it's Aug + Might

[olive wraith]

Brand runs the risk of dropping stacks

[clever path]

so then aug brand for raid then

[olive wraith]

It’s like anvil in the sense it’s really good if you don’t drop stacks

[snow edge]

Brand is only ever decent if you can maintain stacks consistently, which is super hard (impossible in some dungeons)

[olive wraith]

Ye

[snow edge]

Aug / Brand is generally BiS for raid, although a high ilvl Rezan's will be competitive on pure ST

[cosmic lance]

I found brand way too difficult to maintain in pugs with different routes and tanks trolling by just afking before ertain pulls

[clever path]

My brand and rezans are both 483

Aug is 489, gonna keep farming the ocean tomorrow

[snow edge]

Block, Crab, Ember are all good options if you don't have a Might

For M+

Ember is super consistent / provides a DR as well as a bonus

[sweet vault]

Or like league of legends! ||(please don't its the worst game, speaking from experience)||

[young swan]

dota 2 better

[sweet vault]

wrong

both are bad

[young swan]

nah dota 2 is goated

best esport

[sweet vault]

nah best esport

is

Smash Bros Melee

[meager gyro]

Warcraft Rumble best game to play during 3 hr lfg searches

Game going to be huge, bigger than WoW, not a WoW killer. . . Just a mobile wowussy

[sweet vault]

As this is where i go to bed

[jaunty cove]

Hello fellow warriors. I'be been thinking about fury class design and started thinking if there was chance for a rework on fury warrior. What would i do?
I removed not very used talents like single minded fury and Frenezied Flurry. Tryed my best to do something relatively similar to what we have but adding old talents/abilities lost overtime (Legion and MOP).
I also have considered to have the same main tree
The intention was to focus each part of the tree on a part of fury actual core:

• Left being bloodthirst
• Center Execute and Recklessness
• Right Raging Blow
  I'll link this
  (It's small diagram showing what i did)
  For those who do not know the talents i will link them here:
  MOP: Skull Banner
  MOP: Bloodsurge
  MOP: Wild Strike
  Legion: Wrecking Ball
  Legion: Massacre
  Legion: Endless Rage
  Legion: Bloodbath
  Legion: Fresh Meat
  Legion: Battle Cry

Would love to hear your feedback!
GL on your raid and M+

[gilded pawn]

this is pretty high effort

but you have to realize WHY some things are gone

skull banner is absolute shit in terms of personal DPS but introduces a myriad of problems

wild strike is just introducing another shitty filler that'll never get pressed

we already have endless rage in the form of frothing berserker

[jaunty cove]

Very interesting, could you elaborate what kind of problems it does introduce?? btw ty for the feedback!

[gilded pawn]

it introduces the problem of adding a raid buff thats unique to warriors

even if its party wide it introduces problems of parsing

and externals

wow players do not like externals

a lot of what you did just seems like you want a nolstalgia trip

and not actually trying to improve the class

[jaunty cove]

Hmmmm interesting it is percived that way, was not in the attempt to do that but to use previous iterations to get something out and tryed to get rid of other node i do not consider great

[sour frigate]

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[worn rain]

Battle cry is reck, just gone though some iteration

Wrecking ball is kinda new Thane talent dunno

[gilded pawn]

I’m saying this is because you are putting random talents from the past without understanding why it is or is not good

[worn rain]

Also group utility shoud be in main tree, not fury exlusive

[gilded pawn]

Wild strikes is either on the gcd and will be useless, or off gcd and become mandatory

[jaunty cove]

You made a great point i was actually considering out of it, but was not considering how much impact it would have

[gilded pawn]

Wrecking ball is a really garbage proc that don’t mean much

[jaunty cove]

Yep i left a note there that probaly if banner ever comes back it should be in main tree, was just throwing ideas there

[gilded pawn]

Bc has anti synergy with reck

And you can read the rest of my feedback from above

[young swan]

heavily disagree

proc that makes aoe button actually do aoe damage

good

[gilded pawn]

Ww damage is just really undertuned rn I feel

[young swan]

yes its dogshit

with reason

[sour frigate]

_

[young swan]

just not good reason

[worn rain]

thane talents gonna pump

[gilded pawn]

I think the only thing I really like is legion fresh meat

[worn rain]

also about that spreadsheet, idea of execute modifiers early in the tree is nice one, tired of sacrificing those for alternatives, execute should pump no matter what you pick

[gilded pawn]

You definitely don’t want too many execute talents

Then you do 0 damage outside of execute like arms

[worn rain]

ye, but pick 1 from 3

[gilded pawn]

Current iteration of execute is actually great in m+

[worn rain]

would be nice

you get good execute but tailor it for content you do

[gilded pawn]

Blizzard will balance around strongest version

Just like how you can “tailor arms” to whatever content

[calm mantle]

There are some nice people out there, this mad fury warrior just gave me signet.

[gilded pawn]

But arms is just mediocre at best

[calm mantle]

It's only champ but its a dps increase

[gilded pawn]

Arms m+ st problem stems from the execute problem

Amongst other things

[worn rain]

3 talent modding execute in one place is easier to balance than 3 capstones from diff trees

[gilded pawn]

Well you would definitely remove sd and have choice mode massacre

[gilded pawn]

That makes it worse

Because now you need to be balanced around those being taken 100% of the time

[worn rain]

so... just like regular execute

bruh

[gilded pawn]

No because massacre currently is skippable

This isn’t

Because it is The only path into frenzy and reck

[austere skiff]

I'm with crunky, I prefer the normal execute dealing the dmg in a single hit, not three times, for my it feels very very weak spell

[gilded pawn]

He’s not talking about that

Cranky is talking about 3 ways to modify execute

Not 3 hit different hits

[austere skiff]

I know

But I'm saying that execute deals the dmg in 3 times

As fury, in the counterpart as arms it's just one hit

[gilded pawn]

That’s just all semantics

Just close your eyes and pretend it’s one

[austere skiff]

I don't see the 120ks blowing up xD

[gilded pawn]

If the class is well balanced it doesnt matter if it’s 1 or 10

[austere skiff]

Or a critic doing 200

[gilded pawn]

When I shoot a hog with a shotgun and a rifle

It doesn’t matter as long as it’s dead

I don’t care how many bullet holes it has

[austere skiff]

The feeling

It's.not the same a 15k shotgun compared with the 3000.
Yes they did the same job, but the feeling it's in other lvl

[gilded pawn]

Again no one here was talking about feeling

Legion fury felt fine

And it was multi hit there

No one was complaining

[austere skiff]

Then I'm the problem xD

I like big numbers as arms but in fury

Not a machine gun as jojo's😂😂

[gilded pawn]

Then you like arms and not fury

Good for you

[worn rain]

I still can't see why it will be worse. Let's say you got 100% single dps quota. Hipoteticaly all of them contribute to that quota same amount by like 10%. Tune spec according to those numbers. It's same thing like you tune warriors for their dps with regular execute right now. I feel like design where you can skip execute talents completely, but spec still tuned in mind with those is much worse overall

[still swift]

[jaunty cove]

Hmmm i would actually ask, would you feel conftable with something like an option talent that

1. Switches execute to a generator but does less damage
2. Stays as a spender but gets more benefits from the rage spent(like having the old massacre)

[gilded pawn]

Sure

That’s how I would do it

[still swift]

can we not make even more abilities do this spender generator switch

[gilded pawn]

Take generator for m+ and Spender for raid

But I’m not sure how strong it would be without a strong jug

[still swift]

already cba with whirlwind being spender and generator and execute being spender and generator based on specs don't need more of that within a spec

[gilded pawn]

Then just name it something different

Just like how whirlwind will be renamed to thunderclap

Name the builder execute to wild strikes

Or something

[clever belfry]

balls

[jaunty cove]

So, let me get this:
Execution talents should be switched and managed differently(Probably generator and spender but with a banger)
Wild Strike and Bloodsurge are or really OP or really useless
Battlecry is not really worth
Remove the banner

Ty for the feedback
Is there something you did like besides the Fresh Meat one

[gilded pawn]

There’s way too much talents now

Honestly I would rather have new ideas than existing ideas

Because current fury talents isn’t bad

I like the 1 point filler talents on the bottom

And buff to depths

Current fury talents aren’t horrible, we can always go back to AM rav if needed

And that’s like a tried and true play style just a bit boring

It’s more about being undertuned than anything

[clever path]

I dunno man

Still better than divine storming 24:7

[sullen basin]

if we get tier set at full power for t29 and t30 in the next "fated" will we still be using t31

[clever path]

Why so ? I fully expected people to go back to ravager

[sullen basin]

which ones that

29? ion rember

[clever path]

Season 2

[sullen basin]

i skipped that one to play shaman

[gilded pawn]

T29 is awful

[clever path]

Beginning of season 2 piece tier 30 and 2 piece tier 31 was pog

[jaunty cove]

Hmm yeah, i do not consider it to be bad i just sometimes have the feeling that there are not many options and i wanted to throw some ideas in, didn't wanted to throw somethin out of my own yet to the first kinda draft because i wanted to go with "safer" options. Also the idea was to add a little bit more rotation variation

[gilded pawn]

Well prob play t30 or 31

[sullen basin]

29 made me wanna skip warr for a season

[clever path]

I didn’t play 29, but I heard prot warrior was unkillable

[sullen basin]

they nerfed that within like a few days of launch

[covert coyote]

29 was wack

[sullen basin]

wasnt that just the kit not tier

[gilded pawn]

Nothing to do with tier

Was just overtuned

[clever path]

Agin, didn’t play

Just heard prot was awesome

[gilded pawn]

Rotation variation can only exist when we try to manage both bt and rb

[clever path]

Still is to be fair, I like play style of prot warrior more than Pepega peppy play style of prot pala, or HP bar ping pong of BDK

[gilded pawn]

The stuff you added didn’t change anything

[gilded pawn]

It’s a loss in aoe to do that

Not sure about pog

[gilded pawn]

I highly doubt this will happen

Some old tiers got omega nerfed to make room for new ones

Not for war but for other specs

[still swift]

idk if u noticed but he ASKED if we're staying 31 or if we're switching

not that he's saying we're staying

[clever path]

And you didn’t notice I said I EXPECTED/ expect

Also not saying If we re staying

[gilded pawn]

Imagine needing 2 sets of tier for st and aoe

There’s no way fated will give us old tier

[clever belfry]

Yes there's way

itll happen

quote me np

fury 2pc2pc rav am of build

😎

[still swift]

you answered with a question ("why so?") which, along with "i fully expected ppl to..." makes your entire thing sound demeaning as if he said we'd stay rather than answering

semantics I know, but english is difficult and using the wrong words changes meanings a lot

[clever path]

Welcome to the messaging medium

[gilded pawn]

There’s just way too much implications if they let us use old tier

[clever path]

You either have capacity to read minds

Or just assume , which can be right or wrong . I don’t blame you, but that wasn’t intended the way you thought it is.

Not a native English speaker, so expect mistakes here and there

[clever belfry]

yea, so what? Its a fated tier, building whacky combos is kind of the point

[gilded pawn]

2+2 is the least whacky thing you can do

Because most of a tiers power is at the 4

And they nerfed the old tier of way too many specs

So it’s only interesting for a small percentage of us

[clever belfry]

Current and last tier for fury had better 2pc than 4pcs

[gilded pawn]

Exceptions don’t make the rule

[sullen basin]

let us put 2 set on 1 slot

so we can use all 5/6 set bonuses

[gilded pawn]

That would be hilarious

[sullen basin]

didnt people play basically the same build (almost) for t29 and t30

[gilded pawn]

And warriors would be undoubtedly at the bottom

[sullen basin]

fir syre

[gilded pawn]

Yes because neither really changed the rotation

[sullen basin]

for sure

[still swift]

personally hoping they disable tier sets and realize they miss the mark and proceed to not do them again

[sullen basin]

just make smf a tier bonus

[gilded pawn]

Tier sets are a fine way to let us press some different buttons every 6 months

[still swift]

which is the most common complaint

like a build? nope sorry now ur forced to do something else cuz ur tier makes u have to do it :)

[clever belfry]

0/8 bait

[still swift]

0/0 actually

not a bait statement

don't like tier sets and hope they don't come back

[sullen basin]

bait = something i dont wanna hear

[clever belfry]

that is most certainly a take

what would u want instead

[gilded pawn]

Press the same buttons for 3 years straight

[sullen basin]

talents that buff your passive talents (everyone has every major ability as a passive)

[clever path]

Hm, and what do you suggest in place of tier set bonus ?
I agree, that disabling tier would be interesting, but what to replace with?

Few thoughts straight away, it’s either corruption like gear from BfA with individual strong benefit and risk , or each individual piece gives bonus like legendaries in legion , the latter would probably be pain to balance

[clever belfry]

legion Also had tier

[gilded pawn]

So you go from one form of borrowed power to another

Instead of 4 pieces that defines your build you have 1

[young swan]

all power is borrowed 🤓

[clever belfry]

me when aura buff

[still swift]

external abilities like bfa's heart alongside just more refined talent trees, something that doesn't fundamentally force me into playing x or y.

I come from shadow, they try to force us into cringe basic dmg up cooldown 1 when everyone wants to play cool rotation changing cooldown 2, we're not allowed to play the talents we like cuz awful tuned, forced into shitbender and we know they tried same thing last tier, it's awful. don't want it. let people play what builds they like instead of funneling them into one.

[clever belfry]

bring back 9pc like in naxx real

[south kayak]

We’re all borrowed power

[sullen basin]

take titans grip away and make it the capstone for colossus hero talents (fury doesnt have colossus we get thane and slayer right?)

bring back "dungeons get you preraid and raid gets you pre-nextseason"

[clever path]

9 piece would be hardcore and pretty meaningless now imho. Back then all stat increases meant something. Now it’s just going to be a min max dream come true

[south kayak]

No u

[clever path]

I may be wrong ofcourse

[flat river]

KONICHIWA ME AMIGOS

[south kayak]

No

[clever belfry]

i think essences were piss boring cause we all got the same ones

[flat river]

i missed u guys

[clever path]

I missed you too

[south kayak]

Same

[flat river]

UwU

[clever belfry]

Well it did have bonuses up to 9pc
so no optimzing when u have 9 slots

[flat river]

time to do fyrakk

[south kayak]

8 not 9

[flat river]

and get leggo and not be able to craft it due to me having 15k gold

xd

[south kayak]

Oof

[still swift]

again shadow pov, but I found it nice to be able to do different things with them. beam was sick aoe burst on demand that was needed, lucid was skill expression in extending, bote was passive crit increase, guardian was st on demand burst increase, you had different things for different situations and they were all used, yet did not force you to play something specific

[south kayak]

Real

[clever belfry]

Pov warrior
arms always lucid
fury bote aoe, rocky st

u never played anything else

[snow delta]

there has been tier in wow for so long, when they got rid of it for that while, it was one of the most wished things for a return. eveen with complaints its one of the easiest ways to change up a spec rotation or balance, and more importantly (from a company standpoint) it leads to people wanting to do more content to acquire the power it gives.

[clever belfry]

rocky is also just press button he does things

lucid is just reck for arms

[sullen basin]

what if they deleted special effect 2handers from the devs brains and gave us special effect 1handers instead

[flat river]

ngl

[clever belfry]

bote u just press with reck so it didn't change shit

[flat river]

Arms entire personality is based on MS

xD

[sullen basin]

arms has ignore pain because arms is in a lotta pain (i played it and died to a rare i didnt drop more than 5% hp on as fury)

[clever belfry]

legs warrior will rise

[clever path]

How much craft goes for , I can lend you some

Got like 200k I can spare for fellow warrior

[clever belfry]

free gold hack

[sullen basin]

complain about not having gold?

[still swift]

fit it to current class designs and it should be way more appealing, back then it may not have worked for everyone ofc and it'll always have some pain points, but it wouldn't be the exact same abilities likely

[sullen basin]

i do that all the time and still dont have gold

[flat river]

i didn't get it yet xD

im just saying that if i do get it

i cant craft xd

[sullen basin]

buy t okens

3 tokens and you make it

[still swift]

but the idea of having something added on top of my class design rather than forcing my class design into something specific is just way better to me

[flat river]

don't got dollars

[sullen basin]

how about instead of sets we have bets (we pay gold or real money to do more damage)

[clever belfry]

that's not the point I'm making
designing game wide abilities will cause friction due to specs just inherently working differently

[clever belfry]

real

[clever path]

If EA owned wow

[flat river]

real

[sullen basin]

if boby gets rehired

[clever belfry]

me when a guildie pays his monthly rent in tokens for boes (brain dmg)

[sullen basin]

tbf thats only like 20 tokens

thats not even gold cap right

actually its very close

[pure echo]

Anyone else seeing allied wristguards get beat by lariat once you have full sockets?

[clever belfry]

idk where u live

[sullen basin]

Britbong

council flats rent like 3-400

[still swift]

Iyeah as said it won't make everyone happy, don't think there ever will be something that does, some will interact more and less with it but imo it's still better than being forced into playing bt centric builds or annihilator this season (I hate it)

[clever belfry]

but 20 tokens is a 9m² shared living space here

[flat river]

obviously

[pure echo]

wdym obv? the bis lists have wrists/flame cloak listed

[sullen basin]

i need to recraft my wrists and cloak but i dont have 120 crests yet 😦

[flat river]

lariat is strong if u have full sockets

[sullen basin]

i havel ike 5 sockets including neck

[clever belfry]

hate embelishes

[flat river]

i hate new crafting system

[clever belfry]

[clever belfry]

the system ain't bad honestly

[flat river]

im broke though

[still swift]

remove elemental souls

[pure echo]

wasn't last tier, wasn't even part of the convo this tier

[still swift]

remove items costing 30k for a craft

(centaur trophy)

[clever belfry]

I've only picked those for evo lego

[eternal sundial]

Go magehub

[snow delta]

so no tier happens then you realize the legendary or neck or whatever makes a build you dont like the optimal way to go and your stuck with that for an entire expansion instead of just a season

[still swift]

but it won't cuz these things don't impact your baseline as much

[flat river]

bro im 478 ilvl warrior and im getting declined to fyrakk/tindral

wtf

[clever belfry]

ofc

478 noober

[still swift]

there's 20 other 478 ilvl warriors in there

[flat river]

o_o

[cosmic lance]

Group probably has 4 warriors, 9 paladins and dk

[flat river]

it's 2-0-1

[sour frigate]

just get 486 ezy

[cosmic lance]

Unlucky

[clever belfry]

u want their augury

not getting inved

[flat river]

i want leggo chance ftw

[still swift]

100k

just buy token

wicked

[clever belfry]

u need to purchase

[sullen basin]

host your own ez

[clever belfry]

right now

[sullen basin]

thats what ill be doing if my guild doesnt kill it monday night

[snow delta]

so then make it so they are so generic and unimpactful that anything works with them. then why have anything like it at all?

[clever belfry]

passive dmg proc borrowed power be like

[pure echo]

im like almost bis and still getting declined

[sullen basin]

they can smell you dont have augury

why else would someone at that ilvl want in

[pure echo]

tho tbf i don't even bother pugging fyrakk

yeah, i've tried getting normal/heroic in every possible way

[sullen basin]

the mythic swords look lit

[clever belfry]

no augury
L

[still swift]

because they're bonuses, little extras to switch things up every now and then, and depending on situations

it should be your class/spec design making you want to play and play around with it, and choose what you want to play, not the 4 items you get

[pure echo]

unofrt was in for every boss on mythic too for farm this week so no chance of getting it from vault either 😦

[flat river]

[pure echo]

we've only seen 1 too lmao

[sullen basin]

I saw an augury on the first kill my guild got on normal and it went to someone who never showed back up again

[flat river]

xd

[sullen basin]

even lfr augury is an upgrade for me rn iirc

[clever belfry]

Classes have been locked into one build for the majority of an xpac for fucking ever
Passive bonuses that work the same on all (thereby have to be generic) make this worse

its all Illusion of choice, there is always an optimal build

[still swift]

we had 2 mythic pips drop and they went to ppl that ditched guild 2 weeks later each

[sullen basin]

476 augury > 483 branch i think

F

[pure echo]

i wasn't sure which spec i'd play so played arms like week 1/2 a bit so didn't even ask for augury

[flat river]

i had a havoc DH roll on the neck from tindral when he had the neck from nymui

[pure echo]

its real good for our fire mage that got it tho

[clever belfry]

hate mages tho

[pure echo]

it is, heroic augury is better than mythic branch

[clever belfry]

never give them anything

[flat river]

f mages, all my homies play warrior

[pure echo]

i just wanna see me or our other warrior get axe next week, or 1-2 augurys lol

[flat river]

FINALLY GOT INVITED

[sullen basin]

I got basically the right items right
I gotta swap shoes, recraft cape/wrist and swap trinket but im basically where i need to be statwise right?

(i have runes on weapons)

[sour frigate]

im getting invited even without 9/9 lol

[flat river]

tindral is ST fight rite?

like i should use ST talents

not mT

[sour frigate]

yes

[flat river]

been a while

[pure echo]

US players are bitches

[flat river]

cool cool

[sullen basin]

ive been told here that its aoe if the roots last longer than 0 seconds

[pure echo]

keys are damn near impossible to get into as warrior

whereas i get invited like 90% of the time on my DH

[sour frigate]

true

[still swift]

I disagree
arms atm has 3 variations of m+ builds, shadow has da/bender, vf/bender, vf/ghosts and vf/nobender all in some variation though vf ones are mostly for fortified padding (but the choice exists for high keys)
fire has ignite and flamestrike, etc, there's enough specs that have variations of them for this to be true

now remove tier and they get even closer, add something like bfa beam and now you can play a more st focused build but also work with having an occasional burst to offset it, or play aoe build and idk go stone boy to enhance ur st

these things come on top, they balance out weaknesses or make you double down

[sour frigate]

but u can reg urs always

(3 times rolled tott)

(and twice brh)

[clever belfry]

Fire only has ignite in any relevant content

[sullen basin]

gem slots are head neck wrist belt rings right

nothing else?

[clever belfry]

if a mage was in flamestrike spec in a 27 id kick them for inting the key

[still swift]

relevant is fairly subjective as anything past 20s does not offer you any actual gains to progression outside of flex points, and in 20s flamestrike is fair enough

[clever belfry]

in a 20 i can also play
roar spear
ravager of ra
spec

and do more overall than the normal spec cause its really bursty

Does that mean its not just more than an illusion of choice? absolutely fucking not

[cosmic lance]

Yeah i'm trying to pug my way into 24-26s atm and its not great unless you're prepared to form your own group every time

[still swift]

now why are they inting the key, cuz they play an aoe ability when in high keys you need more priority/bossdam as well; solved by using the power that gives you exactly that! in this case, using old examples, you have stoneboy which had a dmg increase on whoever u hit, so now u have better st as well while still using the flamestrike build that you may enjoy more =)

[cosmic lance]

Pretty sure ignite is just better across the board in high keys

When mobs live long enough for it to do its thing, it outperforms in aoe and ST afaik

[still swift]

yea it should
but that doesn't mean flamestrike should be pushed out to the point of being "inting a key", which this would help reduce

[cosmic lance]

That is always going to happen in an infinitely scaling system

[still swift]

yea agree, but ppl have been doing 31s already so a 27 isnt exactly pushing the limits of the dps u need

when youre at the top of the top and every single tiny bit of dmg matters for this system yes, you'll want the most optimized thing you could get for sure

[cosmic lance]

I mean a 27 might be nothing to the guys doing 30s, but that's still a huge key for 99% of the playerbase

So playing something that is optimal still gives you a better shot at timing it

[still swift]

yeah for sure
but that should be up to you, the gap shouldnt be big enough to warrant someone kicking you just for not playing the 1 single top build

[cosmic lance]

There's a difference between someone that's capable of doing 30s playing that spec in a 27

And someone that is hardstuck at 27s playing it in a 26

[still swift]

we haven't gone into those specifics

the comment was

"if a mage was in flamestrike spec in a 27 id kick them for inting the key"

this does not account for skill, io, who the player is, anything

it's: if this person uses it, id kick them for inting

[flat river]

would u rather play another class and be top dps always but never have fun

or play warrior and be lowest dps but have lots of fun

hmmm

[red yew]

What if top dps = fun

[cosmic lance]

For most people doing low damage isn't fun regardless

[flat river]

yes but what if that was u

[still swift]

personally i'd play warrior even if its not as much dmg

[clever path]

Never would play paladin thats for sure

[flat river]

like u didn't have fun being top dps

[still swift]

same as im playing shadow even if its not as much dmg atm

[clever path]

[flat river]

what's your least fav class guys?

[still swift]

being top 1 on the meters gives you an amount of fun

[flat river]

mine is any caster

[clever path]

Paladin and demon hunter

those two need to burn

[flat river]

those too

DH more though

[still swift]

least favorite to play, see, or what are we going by

[clever path]

retribution paladin is like teletubby arms warrior

[sour frigate]

druid and dh

[still swift]

existence?

[flat river]

like which one would u rather not lvl

[still swift]

i would rather not lvl warlock, mage, any other pure dps spec or specs that dont have a tank

[clever path]

Lore justification, perhaps gameplay wise - anything goes

[still swift]

tank lvling = easy

anything else = awful, unfun

[sour frigate]

buy afk lvling via gold 🙂

[still swift]

ok but i think we all know thats not exactly part of question

[clever path]

why buy lvling when it takes 2-3 hours to max level trough dungeons . the only offputting thing about leveling is Ohn'ahkan plains

[still swift]

i have all of them at max lvl, what i found least fun to lvl was monk (all of these specs just dont feel like the play to me), paladin (not appealing gameplay either personally), druid (honestly tanking is just omega boring as a bear cuz ur shit slow)

so thats my top 3 ig

dh is mega fun cuz u get to jump around and fly around and do wacky shit

[clever path]

you can jump around and semi fly and spin as warrior too

only fall damage ofc

[still swift]

1 jump into afk

[sullen basin]

trying to add lariat to topgear sim and damn it aint happening
gear compare also wont do what i want because when i change one wrist it chagnes the other

[still swift]

can u elaborate

what the exact issue is with adding it to topgear

[sullen basin]

simc import string from wowhead doesnt change no matter what i do to it on the left side and i cant make it dream crafted or whatever on the top gear, it imports the default 382

[zenith rock]

Hi Guys, i need help. Which stats needs a Fury?

[sullen basin]

more

avoid items with big haste and you will be big pumper 💪🏻

[sour frigate]

Mastery

[still swift]

so here's what you do

go to gear compare, sim a lariat (no stats, 486 or whatever ilvl u wanna sim it at in topgear) just like this

then you open raw input at the bottom, copy "neck=xxx"

paste ur sim into topgear, then in this (gear from bags) section you add neck=xxx in with a # infront
( # neck=xxx.....)

and boom!
you can now click the + to add sockets, change the stats to whatever u want

(theres multiple images in this image idk why it only previews one)

[sullen basin]

thanks ill check that in a bit

[zenith rock]

ok which caps shoukd i try to reach?

[still swift]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/stat-priority-pve-dps

read some guides =)

[sour frigate]

Around 60 mastery and 25s others

%

[still swift]

yo has anyone found a good sword for the warden transmog yet

[sour frigate]

Try ravencrests one?

[still swift]

this is the closest i got but its still very much not fitting it (and for nighttime its even worse)

that doesnt seem to do it either

[clever path]

what about this one?

[still swift]

not gold enough i feel

its more brass than gold/dark green

[clever path]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=199776/titan-watchers-broadsword

[still swift]

i was thinking this one but thats just easy made cuz the blade isnt colored

[sour frigate]

keks

[still swift]

never seen this one wheres that from?

[sour frigate]

Judge linked it

[still swift]

o he did

its a normal vendor wtf

[still swift]

and on that note, any good ones for the night version as well? its still 2 weeks til we get the static colors

[sour frigate]

i dunno how night version looks and dont have it in appearence menu

[still swift]

its silvery

[sour frigate]

ravencrest weapon

[still swift]

u must rly like ravencrests weapon huh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1050046515533594734.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[sour frigate]

i mean its elvish

argent mawsworn greatsword

[still swift]

its fairly discolored from the silver set with gray hilt

mawsworn could work well ya

can see that

[sullen basin]

it says lariat is dogwater

[still swift]

did u add its stats and sockets

[sour frigate]

stromkar pvp skin

[still swift]

fuck grinding legendary appearances

[stiff barn]

Artifact*

[eternal sundial]

Pvp ones are just honor levele

Generally p easy

[still swift]

me personally

not touched pvp since i started this game

not gonna

[eternal sundial]

Good play for the mental

[sour frigate]

bgs are legit the same as keys lol

[sour frigate]

just go in push pve rotation

🙂

[sullen basin]

too many combos to change to another on top

[sour frigate]

reverse gems

vers mastery

so it gives mastery on proc

[still swift]

id assume this is the combo that topgear chose for him

[eternal sundial]

i will now go dunk on some idiot in 2s with orange stick

[still swift]

seems correct, thats your answer then, not super good for the time being

[eternal sundial]

idk it never was good for me

from 460 to 488

[still swift]

sme other dud above said it sims above ally wrists

so for him it works

[eternal sundial]

thats ppaw in arms no?

for them it seems p good ngl

[still swift]

some keksecute guy

[sour frigate]

mastery procs seems insane cuz recently i had earthern writ simmin better than wafting

[still swift]

idk who he is

[sullen basin]

but mastery vers is earth gem and earth gem is mastery no?

[clever path]

What macro do i put this leggo axe in?

[sullen basin]

vers gems are what the blue cunts

[still swift]

but its fury war

[eternal sundial]

/use 16

[sullen basin]

F button

[still swift]

from the looks of it

[eternal sundial]

i think

[sour frigate]

need to be earth gem

doesnt matter colour

[sullen basin]

kek

[sour frigate]

fire is for crits

talking about lariat procs

[sullen basin]

I mean I did sim with it

[eternal sundial]

click always use

saves iterations

[sullen basin]

huh

[eternal sundial]

for mainstat gems

[still swift]

select that

[eternal sundial]

so it never even tried a non mainstat gem combo

[still swift]

and dont think much more about it

[sullen basin]

wahey now i can add one more gem

[still swift]

otherwise topgear will try to sim versions without it

[sullen basin]

thats so weird

[still swift]

cant believe ur not simming like this

who needs mastery or vers

[sullen basin]

i dont have the combos

2M cap

[still swift]

aww

if u want send the string to me i can drop a big one

[sour frigate]

sheesh crit gems sim better by 228 dps for me lessgoo

[sullen basin]

lemme see if i can

[eternal sundial]

im vers haste jailed forever

[sullen basin]

i have unlimited haste

[eternal sundial]

🤷‍♂️

idk i just sim

[sour frigate]

was goin 33 crits recently

decided to recraft into vers

[eternal sundial]

did sim decide or you

[sour frigate]

My frend told me to

[eternal sundial]

i died on normal fyrakk at 23 dispell stacks i cba

[sour frigate]

I cant stand raiding in this game

[eternal sundial]

raiding is fun

pug raids arent

cuz you get used to a certain level of play but pugs cant be at that level

[sour frigate]

Well i also cant have schedule

[eternal sundial]

doesnt mean raiding is bad content

[sour frigate]

I dont say it is just personally dont like

But can run a 20 hr raid in ark

[sullen basin]

yeah but one of them is doing something meaningful and the other is bullying children and stealing their shit

of course you can play ark for 20 hours

[sullen basin]

didnt it just get nerfed

or is hotfix not out yet

[eternal sundial]

one healer did 1 dispell total

wcyd

[sour frigate]

I mean actual fob on capped server

But anyway wow mostly more intense

[errant vessel]

do you guys know if blessing of autumn reduces trinket cd as well?

[gleaming kestrel]

hi guys can u check my simc and help to be better if i can ?

[errant vessel]

Your simc string isn't shared through link

we have our own simc string saved on our local cache

[gleaming kestrel]

oh w8

so if i send u my /simc can u check it?

[eternal sundial]

u can also run a topgear and then send that

[still swift]

yea we could but usually you do that yourself

and then the results are something u can send and then they can be checked

[gleaming kestrel]

ty

[flat river]

friens

i made a roup for fyrakk and now i understand why i wasn't invited

only warriors and paladins are queueing

XD

[sour frigate]

As it werent millions of hunters in s1 and millions of evokers in s2

[flat river]

been up for 10 minutes

[lavish grove]

Remember sylvanas and all the hunters applying?

[sour frigate]

Rogues too

Smh dont remember that

[lavish grove]

True, forgot about them

[calm mantle]

Arcane mage with 489 Iridal pulling 100k dps in throne :c

I was hoping for an easy run

[pliant lantern]

It does not

[flat river]

we did raid

first try

and i forgot to assign seeders

XD

we winged it

wung it

what is past tense of winging it

xD

[pliant lantern]

Winged it works

[flat river]

kk

[covert blaze]

winging my wung rn

[sullen basin]

wung it for sure

[jolly mist]

dancing blades> titanic rage if have lego right?

surely

[covert blaze]

with no lego too

[oblique trail]

The lego does not change your talents in any way

[flat river]

if u get leggo u go ravager build

trust

[eternal sundial]

Loboz build

[jolly mist]

legy is so juicy

and i just dropped might

off first tott run

[errant vessel]

ban this man

[grand lance]

Same but with augury, the dream

[still swift]

next week

[jolly mist]

luck been poppin off icl

now its time to get hc augury in vault

[oblique trail]

=)

[wild mural]

No

[eternal sundial]

Magehub is god tier guide

Manather Video too

[drowsy sage]

is the use ability in the damage that says dot or?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[eternal sundial]

Both

[drowsy sage]

okok idk why i thought they were shown seperately

[oblique trail]

They initially were

[eternal sundial]

I wish they still were

[stuck bison]

i have hc augury. lego wll drop next week for sure %100 because i have got like 15+ blp items maybe even 20

[covert blaze]

for sure

[nova garnet]

🚷

[gusty compass]

You can get the legendary weapon in normal right?

[hasty path]

this was a very scuffed 20 DHT but my first legendary key

[clever path]

Whats ur overall dmg

[hasty path]

the aug did less than the VDH on logs

and the vdh wasnt doing shit

[cosmic lance]

How did your demo do 168k with an aug

[hasty path]

brother

i dont know

[cosmic lance]

My alt warlock did like 300 with an aug and we barely timed, and i am not good at warlock

[hasty path]

:)))

[jolly mist]

what the

[clever belfry]

i mean this aug

probably had like

20% EM uptime

and 0% shifting sands

[cosmic lance]

Yeah true

still 168k from a 483 lock even with no aug isnt great

Thats like, not pressing half your buttons

Or dead a lot, who knows

[clever path]

Seeing warriors top dps always tickles my balls

Gz

[covert blaze]

[covert blaze]

Lock afk

Show dmg breakdown

[cosmic lance]

Most augs in lower keys a trap anyway

That i've found

[hasty path]

Yeah

Most players are

[eternal sundial]

Augs are trap in 25s too 99% of the time

[cosmic lance]

Havent run many 25s with augs tbh

Devastation is actually not even bad from the ones i've run with

[hasty path]

Devastation is great

aug is just canceraids

[final birch]

dont underestimate pug augs

sometimes they are able to do even 50%

had pug 3.5 do 52% in a key

[lucid plover]

2 flame patches or 1 patch+lariat?

[pliant lantern]

Tbh, since Aug released I forgot that Devistation and Preservation actually exist. Don't think I have seen or played with either all tier

[pliant lantern]

I use 1 flame patch and allied wrists (I pretty much only raid)

[wicked plinth]

Anything meta in lower keys is a trap

[flat river]

hmm

im trying WoW with a controller to see whats up

more of a challenge

i don't know about the targeting though

xd

ok i couldn't get it to work

[polar trail]

You could try a BM hunter with the old NES 8 bit controller

[flat river]

its not that

when i try to bind

bugs out

and removes my keyboard bind

[broken river]

after 14 hours, and 400k gold I have Fyralath

[flat river]

[pliant lantern]

Congrats

[flat river]

what did it cost?

nvm that was stupid question

xd

[pliant lantern]

Everything

[flat river]

yeah thats what i meant xd

was it worth it though?

[tepid horizon]

does anyone have any good Builds for fury?

[sinful spoke]

LOL

[sinful spoke]

Yeah check the pins

[tepid horizon]

Thank you!

[covert blaze]

[flat river]

i want raging blow back >:(

[keen kindle]

400k to still be mid af

[flat river]

i accept it

[keen kindle]

400k to not do 400k in aoe

[flat river]

wait lol

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jAfhm5Fwn8gosXbXa1KNp1

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ppnDzCoJvxwzAcDjvgyTnC

[flat river]

normal

[flat river]

RB

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7CH4Br4UkkfmZaGGsUhN4t

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fbHJYTj1YHxzjS5xWvv4JG

[keen kindle]

Omfg he did it

[flat river]

I DID IT

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5AzDZgbLqYcJh5A9iK36RB

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3ueJBXs9X8aq2gJtY78qPx

10K DIFFERENCE ONLY

WORTH?

fuck it im going RB

oh wait i need 2 more talent points

for the RB talents xd

time to re-sim

[modest condor]

that's not an rb build, that's a bt build that fills with rb instead of slam

[flat river]

yes

BUT

u have no downtime

:3

[brazen cloud]

at a dps loss but ok

[tacit crag]

You have no downtime in annihilator

[flat river]

u do

[unreal onyx]

You have almost no downtime with anni either