fury

[sinful spoke]

tank?

[sullen dove]

idk

it is a strength trinket i mean idk what they use

i assume its still good for them

[sinful spoke]

it isnt

only good for blood realistically

[sullen dove]

i have 1 vote from the other warrior on loot council

[sinful spoke]

do they not sim droptimizers ?

[covert blaze]

do you not have a wowaudit

[sullen dove]

they do but i mean at a certain point its a similar upgrade for most everyone

[hard relic]

a king propping another king up

[sullen dove]

upgrading from heroic to mythic

so like most ppl 1.5k-2.5k dps upgrade i mean idk purely numbers youd just give to biggest gain but theres a lot of situations you could do to skew them one way or another

[mighty wren]

disenchant it so everyone is unhappy.

[sullen dove]

real

[mighty wren]

grats, now go smash a bit harder than before

[covert blaze]

@warm crag OMG

bro manifested loot into existence

[sullen dove]

there could be a false alarm loot guy is in discussion

[covert blaze]

[odd nacelle]

Ours went to normal->mythic upgrades on an enh and a ret

[sullen dove]

[south kayak]

Hi

[sullen dove]

have to... do the funny boss now...

[south kayak]

No axe for me either

[covert blaze]

hello

next week for sure

[still swift]

today I loot legendary team

it's time

[south kayak]

For sure

[odd nacelle]

31 pulls in before we called it for the week. We've legally seen the 2nd set of roots

[slim coral]

that's not the lego btw

[south kayak]

Legally?

[south kayak]

I still don’t have my bis dagger on rogue from fall

[slim coral]

Rogue abuser

[south kayak]

30 runs

[slim coral]

banned

[sullen dove]

[odd nacelle]

Yup, she started casting 'em and a dispel went badly

[sullen dove]

like.. in p1?

[odd nacelle]

ya

[covert blaze]

ive been spamming fall for double time on dh and no luck

[sullen dove]

looking at loorgs literally every warrior holding avatar for 50 seconds

[south kayak]

Yeah seems like the drop rate of weapons in fall is ridiculously low

[sullen dove]

so if u saying im not gonna press avatar once for the rest of the night

[slim coral]

yes

[sullen dove]

[south kayak]

What about illegally

[odd nacelle]

I just held my second odyn

[slim coral]

you use avatar when it feels good

[sullen dove]

zug

[south kayak]

Special weapons in dungeons shouldn’t be a thing

[slim coral]

I disagree

[south kayak]

Having to farm them is cancer

[slim coral]

I like getiku

[south kayak]

That’s why you suck

[slim coral]

Bring it back!

[slim coral]

Real

[odd nacelle]

Still feeling it out, and done 0 research. But figured ava on pull, save an odyn for 50s

[sullen dove]

yea maybe

[south kayak]

[sullen dove]

idk

1 log out of like... top 50 uses it on pull

[south kayak]

Aren’t roots like coming within 10 seconds of the pull

[sullen dove]

maybe cuz it comes up on shield or something later

[odd nacelle]

I'm flying first Box

[south kayak]

I wanna fly

[odd nacelle]

flying is kinda fun tbh

The divebomb hit is kinda satisfying

[sullen dove]

[odd nacelle]

immediately 6 points cooler

[south kayak]

Sheesh

[covert blaze]

🥵

[south kayak]

I did fyrakk dust

Yday

Augury did like 7% of my damage

It owns

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[sullen dove]

[tepid shore]

Nice.

[sullen dove]

who the fuck killed smolder in the last 50 minutes and did more dmg

orange number is gone

wtf

[tepid shore]

Wasn't me I didn't get to smolder until 30m left in my reclear.

[sullen dove]

rank 69 tho.. haha..

[tepid shore]

haha

[south kayak]

The funny number

[fiery thorn]

legendary active in an everbloom while using on aoe + 1st boss amp + last boss. 3.5% from the dot vs 2.8% from the active while not being able to move or cast anything else...

🤢

just remove the channel tbh...

[eternal sundial]

Channel whack

Yet to kms with it but itll happen

[pallid idol]

Augury blasts eh

[eternal sundial]

It does

[sinful spoke]

I did

[fiery thorn]

csb did almost as much and has mainstat but you have to keep it up

drops a lot in the dawn dungeons...

[sinful spoke]

4 times so far on tswift

[fiery thorn]

havent killed myself yet but definitely gotten hit by shit and not been able to kick

[sullen dove]

only like 5 more upgrades till its joever

and leggo

[eternal sundial]

I need 8 items and tier is over never been this close

[pallid idol]

I accidentally had loot spec to enhance on my ele and got a CSB from weekly so we enhance now I’ll have to try it

[eternal sundial]

Igira/dht ring, wm belt, brh neck, augury and mythic brand and it's joever

[sullen dove]

4 pieces under 486

[eternal sundial]

I got 3

Csb, neck and belt at 483

[snow edge]

What rings are you rocking that an unsocketed ring is better?

[sullen dove]

.. an unsocketed ring

[snow edge]

No crafted double ring?

[sullen dove]

dont have crests rly

can do it next week doe

[snow edge]

Oh right

[sullen dove]

if bad vault/nothing on kill

[eternal sundial]

Make 476 ones

They go hard

[junior gale]

a free socket is a free socket

[sullen dove]

[eternal sundial]

I cant wait to prepick socket next 2 weeks

[sudden tusk]

im willing a might of the ocean myth track next week

[sullen dove]

-8k gold for 150 dps

thoughts

i think uh... naaaah ima do my own thing

[eternal sundial]

https://fxtwitter.com/Wowhead/status/1743080623642648670?t=o2-RR5eAbQdOjTcrD4Sa5w&s=19

[junior gale]

dam man how broke are you

[eternal sundial]

[sullen dove]

thanks wowhead very cool

[silk wharf]

I wasnt considering it before, but now I surely am

[sullen dove]

is this a madox zinger

or someone else random said that

[silk wharf]

that it isnt even a base item -> upgrade like shadowmourne is crazy. its free real estate.

[sudden tusk]

me

[eternal sundial]

I wonder if id redo lego ql on my 2nd war

[sudden tusk]

you want a real zinger

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1192705881733869618/a35ce15548346b9398591847f83a0785.mov?ex=65aa0ce9&is=659797e9&hm=6701dbb62af1db85f5a28904f774fe2d8b1b0149c03902a2e616c84ac9dfd844&

[sullen dove]

lmao

[eternal sundial]

22 views

[sullen dove]

this fie

[sudden tusk]

cheeseburger

i sleep

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chuni-sleep-gif-20108376

[eternal sundial]

@oblique trail a) trinket check b) did u end up using CDs late on nymue adds or hold for boss after

[sullen dove]

gn my frogger

[snow edge]

Oh no not a trinket check

[sullen dove]

[snow edge]

You're going to kill the man

[eternal sundial]

@eternal sundial trinket check

[snow edge]

Waiting for answer from @eternal sundial

[eternal sundial]

No augury

[junior gale]

has leggo but no augury what a world

[eternal sundial]

Yea idk we had 1 drop total and it went to dh

And now i have 2 mythic slots and despairgi

[junior gale]

we got lucky with our augurys for awhile was seeing one every other week

[eternal sundial]

I make people in fyrakk pugs happy with my existance tho

Cuz orang stick

[sullen dove]

all things considered this boss is pretty cool

[junior gale]

one day I can too got 5 lessers this week so hopefuly next week is the week

[sullen dove]

[junior gale]

my placebo blp luck is through the roof

[naive mural]

Wanted to ask a quick question, I go to diff websites and they all have varying information, is there a definitive website that shows BiS or is it all conjecture and based on your own simming

[edgy widget]

they shouldn't vary that much, though BiS is an outmoded concept that you really shouldn't use as any kind of ideal

half the shit is usually unobtainable, or very based on RNG anyway

[naive mural]

Yeah I just didnt know cause I have Hero track of EVERYTHING of the WoWhead bis list, then I see somewhere else its a diff set lol

[gilded pawn]

Because ilevel myth>bis hero

[eternal sundial]

BIS myth track shit is doable but requires 496 augury n shabang like that so most just dont reach it ever

But concept of bis is wrath andy shit

[gilded pawn]

Nah

Mop

[edgy widget]

See the thing about "BiS" is that it's a very specific combination of stats - having those items at Heroic ilevel isn't the same as Mythic, because (hypothetical numbers) 15% crit/17% verse/22% haste/48% mastery is not the same as 20% crit/22% verse/27% haste/53% mastery

[proud wedge]

...huh

[edgy widget]

likewise, any change in stats (such as using a higher item level piece that's not part of the "bis" setup) is going to have a cascading effect which changes everything else in the hypothetical list

[sullen dove]

[eternal sundial]

Premyth bis list on wowhead when

[sullen dove]

did you just type rox in the search bar

and reply to something from 3 months ago

[edgy widget]

so on a practical level, a "bis" list only matters to the degree at which you have access to every item on that list and at that item level

[proud wedge]

Kinda. I was looking at a notification and found that. Still trying to figure out how to find who mentioned me on the new phone discord ui

[gilded pawn]

I remember you ruined the report dms chat

Everyone just commented the rat

[eternal sundial]

[proud wedge]

[sullen dove]

[gilded pawn]

do it in #report-dms

[river reef]

[gilded pawn]

you wont

can you get hacked again

[edgy widget]

wtf are yall talking about and what does it have to do with anything

[proud wedge]

I'll return to wow but rn we on the gym and uni grind.

[eternal sundial]

[edgy widget]

you go get that cheese

[gilded pawn]

rox commented on what i said a year ago

[edgy widget]

ok well you two star-crossed lovers can flirt somewhere else

[naive mural]

Also feels like Signet isnt that great even though Sims always reccomend it

[edgy widget]

depends on the length of the encounter; if you're mostly doing heroic bosses and/or just getting fast kills, it's not going to be as good

[gilded pawn]

let us have this one

[covert blaze]

nice meme

[gilded pawn]

its 2AM NA and 9AM Eu

[eternal sundial]

It goes veeery hard on real bosses

[river reef]

I see I type

[gilded pawn]

dont need productive conversations right now

[eternal sundial]

Snacko i divebombed my average with a grey log on larry - music too loud didnt hear bigwigs alarm

[river reef]

[edgy widget]

I do

[river reef]

fkin animal

[edgy widget]

checkmate, nerd

[naive mural]

I just nabbed it cause I was tired of running AD, but here I am back to farming AD

[gilded pawn]

aight aight

[river reef]

[covert blaze]

Let them meme it's 5 am

[mighty wren]

annoys me that none of those hits is 123456(7)

[gilded pawn]

anyways i never got an answer for this though

[sullen dove]

I’ll remove a gem from my gear to hit for 1k less

[oblique trail]

Not at pc but pretty sure I just pressed on cd

Still lfr trinket

Replace mirror with might gg

[errant vessel]

What % of people above 95% logs do you guys think have legendaries

or is it first in the ~98 parses that it really starts being the legendary-havers

[oblique trail]

Idk im 97 average and I dont have it

[errant vessel]

purely speculating

[oblique trail]

A lot of people dont

[covert blaze]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

[errant vessel]

hc or mythic?

[oblique trail]

Mythic

[errant vessel]

and those were recent kills?

[oblique trail]

Yes

Ish

[errant vessel]

I just found myself going from a R3 council parse to a 22 within a week

so wondering how much it affects parses in general

it's down to r40 now actually

[oblique trail]

Got 2 sub 100 rank kills still, and my larodar still almost sub 100 too

Only bosses I'm not sub 100 on I either haven't recleared in eons or it's council

But yeah

[errant vessel]

my larodar was a rank ~16 parse and now it's a r155

[oblique trail]

The weapon isn't going to make people Spike to 99s

[eternal sundial]

Council is dogshit

[oblique trail]

It'll help sure but some people are just bad with or without it

[covert blaze]

Council bad

[errant vessel]

ye it makes people around the 90th percentile start doing 99s though

so still people that know somewhat what to do

[covert blaze]

[eternal sundial]

Surely it's not better killtime whatsoever

[oblique trail]

I imagine that's volco

[errant vessel]

we had a pull on council that had all the bosses stacked for like 1 min in total

all 3 of them

everyone was doing giga parses and then someone ate the last grass in the middle as duck

[eternal sundial]

You imagine correctly

[oblique trail]

Volco is my only boss without an orange

[eternal sundial]

I got a grey larry first kill since i didnt notice fire and music was louder than bigwigs beep

[errant vessel]

nymue and volc are my lowest as well

[oblique trail]

Surely I get in for volcoross this week and I can fix parse then go back to being benched for hc vault in the 7th reset of the tier

[eternal sundial]

I pray

Ill suggest HC bench maybe

Just do larry nymue

For arms items

[errant vessel]

larry

I like that

[odd nacelle]

The real trick to parsing is being the duck on every single kill

[mossy fox]

true

[snow edge]

If you don't have an Augury at this point Banezi the game is over

[still swift]

stop bully banezi

[snow edge]

It's not bully, I didn't tag him and say trinket check like Phil would

[junior gale]

bruh that exact same situation happened to us on reclear this week I was so pissed. because of course the next pull the bosses refused to be near each other

[still swift]

he's perma in channel so he sees anyway

[fair oasis]

So what does and doesn't affect fyralath active damage? Heard mixed stuff, people saying avatar does and doesn't affect it

[oblique trail]

Your class abilities doesn't affect it

(Except for spear but don't use it inside of spear)

[oblique trail]

Ty for standing up for me

[oblique trail]

Fk u I got lfr augury

[fair oasis]

Potion affect it?

[oblique trail]

Your crit and vers affects it

[fair oasis]

Also trinkets that Amp main stat?

[errant vessel]

isn't it also hasted?

[oblique trail]

No

The dot is

Not the active

[still swift]

i got u banzo

[errant vessel]

oh damn

[fair oasis]

So there's no meaningful way to increase the actives dam unless I use a crit or vers amp

[oblique trail]

Correct, which we have none of

[tepid shore]

[atomic nymph]

Aug vers amp

[oblique trail]

Damage amps however from mechanics work

Like smolderon orbs

[naive summit]

can someone explain why this guy is doing so much dam while barely pressing execute https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ktLyhTAQ8pba3Wx4#fight=84&source=293&type=damage-done

[silent furnace]

Because bloodbath>execute

[still swift]

execute is simply not that good

[tepid shore]

Execute is what you press over Slam if you don't have Bloodbath or Rampage avail

🙂

[naive summit]

wait i thought that execute with ashen and massacre is better than just rampage bloodbath

i thought if u have those two talents, you go rampage ->bloodbath -> execute ->rampage

[oblique trail]

You do

[sullen dove]

you might but even if you do bloodbath is still like 60% of the damage of that 3 button rotation probably

and you presumably toss execute out of the window during spear to make sure as many bb’s have the crit dam buff as possible

[snow edge]

Oh TRUE, u got me

[oblique trail]

Execute does decent damage but in reality it's just a high rage gen filler

[snow edge]

spell reflect putting in work this week, 8.2M on Yazma

[gilded belfry]

Hey
I didnt found the pin mess about how to use leg in rota ?

[snow edge]

#fury message

[gilded belfry]

🙏

[naive summit]

but on that priorty, would u still do rampage->bloodbath->execute->rampage even if you are capped on rage?

[oblique trail]

If you're capping rage I'd just do Rampage -> BB and ignore Execute for that one cycle, but generally this only happens during Reck windows

However if you're sitting on a BB and Ashen is just about to run out in the next global, you prio Execute first then BB

I think in the sims, the condition is to Execute under 85%/110 rage, and otherwise prio Ramp/BB cycling, but I haven't looked in a while so might be misrembering that

[amber tinsel]

guys am i the only one who found that this tier fury waste a lot of is "dynamic" gameplay with the 1.5 cds compare to S2 ? hard to manage cds in low pick up dungeon

[still swift]

cap

[oblique trail]

I just press my CDs on CD

It's not that complicated

Unless I know a pack is going to die before my CDs are even out, then I just hold

[oblique trail]

so true oomfie

[still swift]

when are u trading me daggers from fall

[oblique trail]

When I got a rogue with 2x daggers myself

Which I currently don't have

[still swift]

wow..

[summer quail]

I thought that was bt pre exe? The 110 rage thing and that with ashen in exe phase we still press exe when it would rage cap. Got me questioning myself

[clever belfry]

shut up dagger smf users

[sullen dove]

just don’t think about what you do and hit your buttons in a way that feels right to you

i don’t 100 every boss because of lack of gear not lack of optimal rotation

[summer quail]

Real

[south kayak]

I need someone to trade me too

[oblique trail]

Looking again it does Exe even if it caps

[still swift]

ur a box

[south kayak]

Why are you mean

[sullen dove]

D:

[oblique trail]

As mentioned I hadn't looked in a while so didn't remember the conditions it actually had

[still swift]

i didnt know calling you by name is mean

[oblique trail]

But I personally just prio BB over Exe if I'm basically rage capped

[south kayak]

[oblique trail]

Nina

[south kayak]

You don’t know the history…

[still swift]

whats up monkzi

[summer quail]

Yeye, just happy you checked.

[still swift]

u use it on discord where u get to choose ur name so thats on u

and we all know what happened to the other 26 of them

[summer quail]

It's prob extremely minor either way

[oblique trail]

It very much is

If you decide once a fight to BB over Exe in that scenario would be basically within variance

[errant vessel]

do you guys decide stats based on lust or no lust sims

because I've noticed most other fury warriors have a lot more haste than me

[oblique trail]

Lust sims because really it doesn't matter

[errant vessel]

and wondering if it's because they're optimizing character around no lust

[pliant lantern]

MNore likely thats just the level of haste they have gotten naturally from their gear

[summer quail]

They prob just have more haste than you xD. Alot of the time there's nothing special to it

[cosmic lance]

All 4 of the tier pieces you prefer have haste on them as well

Couple of other items with haste and you basically hit where most people ar

[errant vessel]

This is the avg top 50 fury warrior on murlok.io

[oblique trail]

That's basically what my stats are like rn

Which I got from just simming top gear

[pliant lantern]

Just sim your char, with lust and do what it tells you

[errant vessel]

this is me

(no howling or flask)

[summer quail]

Just follow sims as usual

[errant vessel]

yeah I know, just wondering if anyone knew if that's what they are doing

[pliant lantern]

I have never heard of anyone simming without lust

[oblique trail]

Most key pushers have a lust in some form anyway, and in raid you always have lust

And simming with or without lust wouldn't yield a noticeable stat difference (if at all really)

[summer quail]

Chances are for the top they have gnarlroot and leggo. That's alot of haste right there

[errant vessel]

true I'll actually be pretty close to same split with leggo

guess I was overthinking it

[pliant lantern]

My stats

[oblique trail]

Looking at what top players do with their stats very often comes down to them simming themselves

[errant vessel]

are you sure that's optimal for you

because haste is legit my worst stat

[still swift]

@oblique trail

[errant vessel]

in sims rn

[oblique trail]

@still swift

[oblique trail]

oly moly

[still swift]

⚾

[oblique trail]

6 buff moment

[still swift]

el massivo

[pliant lantern]

It doesn't matter if its your worst stat its really just as simple as running top gear sims and going with what it tells you

Everyones gear is going to be slightly different

[errant vessel]

I know

[clever belfry]

back in my day

rogue only had 5

[oblique trail]

So real

[south kayak]

Sheesh

[south kayak]

Lmao that one hasn’t been AS + leech in a long time

And it’s still there

[wild mural]

There’s an asl buff what

[south kayak]

There isn’t

Outdated info I guess

In that icon

[wild mural]

Time to bdk

The rise of Angydeadge

[south kayak]

Rise of the Dead

[still swift]

im joining the luxthos discord and notifying them as we speak

this is absolutely unforgivable

😤

[wild mural]

Unplayable game

[covert blaze]

I don't want to level anymore

[still swift]

thats why u pay 100k for a boost

[frigid cipher]

LET FLY

[oblique trail]

What do I do if I just paid for a race change and all I got to my name is 100k

My monk is 64 now anyway so basically 70

[still swift]

still pay it

[narrow narwhal]

New pfp :woo:

[oblique trail]

Can you pay my crafting fees then? Ty

[still swift]

craft this

[covert blaze]

no shot

i have 70k rn

[still swift]

?

dont be poor

lol

[covert blaze]

[still swift]

banzi

[oblique trail]

Wdym?

[still swift]

whats up

[oblique trail]

nmu?

[still swift]

just logged on my war ready to do keyas

[oblique trail]

about to help a bunch of individuals in Amirdrassil, the Dreams Hope

[still swift]

i am unsure what item i would like to acquire

[oblique trail]

acquire this

[still swift]

what is it?

[narrow narwhal]

Nuts?

[oblique trail]

Idk just loot DHT Ring + Belt, Might + Ember/Crab, BRH neck and you're gg

AD Helmet too ig

Weapons too since you apparently have skill issue in looting those

[still swift]

fake info bamzi

[oblique trail]

Brand in keys

[still swift]

u are so hater

[oblique trail]

You never told me you got these idjot

Would've congratulated you

[still swift]

but i main arms now so i dont need two of them

[covert blaze]

you have the wrong pants enchant lol

[still swift]

cope

[covert blaze]

📽️

[still swift]

155 stat + 41 vers > 177 stat + some shit stam

its simply how it is

the robot has told me such

[oblique trail]

You sim like 200 more with that or close to that

Cope levels of increases

[still swift]

i hit my sim dps every time so 200 is 200.

[oblique trail]

uhuh

[violet trail]

200 dps is within the error rate of the bot, no?

[covert blaze]

Shirley

[oblique trail]

It's good to see you're confident but relax on the copa

[still swift]

wait until i get lego from helping individuals through amirdrassil on the heroic difficulty today

and then i buy augury from one of the lucky people

[oblique trail]

Why would you buy brand when you got it

Silly?

[still swift]

my edit isnt going through

love internet isshu

[covert blaze]

skill issue

[still swift]

let fly

[covert blaze]

[snow pasture]

what are the current %'s for deminishing returns for fury?

i just found out haste is 25% is that correct?

[oblique trail]

They're levels that doesn't really matter in terms of knowing about

Just sim top gear and it'll give you what the best stats are for your specific gear setup

[snow pasture]

oh sweet i know how to sim for single target but simming for mythics/aoe confuses me XD

[clever path]

i feel the power

that might of the ocean is truly pog

i cant believe it i was actually doing dps

im so hepi

[violet trail]

Tfw no 30% versa

[snow pasture]

unbuffed

i get 59% mastry with runes

or maybe i should go crit runes?

[eternal sundial]

Sim it

[flat sapphire]

How do you sim runes

[oblique trail]

At the bottom in the sim options, or through advanced sim with a string

But just use Hissing runes

[snow pasture]

whats the best way to sim aoe?

[oblique trail]

I just sim Patchwerk 5 min 1 target

Whatever sims best in ST will be basically equally as good in AoE

Only slight difference is that crit gains more value from AoE compared to ST, but not to such an extent you'd change your entire gear around it

[snow pasture]

you a legend!

[oblique trail]

Trinkets you think about which will be best, i.e Might of the Ocean is incredibly good for M+, but something like Rezan isn't as good

[snow pasture]

im using rezans and might

[covert blaze]

copy="Primal Whetstone -> Attack Power"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3/off_hand:primal_whetstone_3
copy="Buzzing Rune -> Crit"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:buzzing_rune_3/off_hand:buzzing_rune_3
copy="Howling Rune -> Haste"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3/off_hand:howling_rune_3
copy="Hissing Rune -> Mastery"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:hissing_rune_3

[snow pasture]

i have mirror,sandglass,might,rezans all around 473-476

[oblique trail]

With what you got, Might + Rezans is fine

I'd try and get Crab/Ember and use it instead of Rezan though

[violet trail]

Crab is pretty nice until you get Augery

Rezan is cheeks for M+

[oblique trail]

My LFR augury is like

monka

for M+

So I just keep using my Ember instead

[snow edge]

Ember pretty good tbh

[flat sapphire]

But where do I put that in

[covert blaze]

advanced sim, paste it at the end of your string

like bonzai said

[flat sapphire]

Oh alright

Oh he said it before you pinged

Thank you

[covert blaze]

[still swift]

hate when people ignore bonzai

fury prophet

[smoky sonnet]

is it normal to have nothing to press on a gcd during a fight every now and then as fury?

[still swift]

press whirlwind or

[smoky sonnet]

yes ww and slam already pressed

[still swift]

press it again

[smoky sonnet]

😄

[covert blaze]

it can happen

specially if you dont have wft

[smoky sonnet]

it felt kinda weird after switching from arms

[covert blaze]

the arms mind cannot comprehend not having a full rage bar

[still swift]

you come from arms that means anything will be weird

full delulu moment over there

[smoky sonnet]

no I mean I raided mythic as fury in SL

and hated arms

now I kinda feel like arms is more consistent

but no damage

[covert blaze]

fury is consistent

you might be misplaying

[smoky sonnet]

my stats are not the best obviously switching from arms

[oblique trail]

It happens. A way to avoid this as a general rule of thumb is to alternate BT - X - BT - X - BT as much as you can, with X being any other ability

[cosmic lance]

If you're slotting a bt in every2 nd gloval its pretty rare you have nothing to press

[oblique trail]

And if you're at 80+ rage, enraged and can BT, you can BT first then Rampage after. During Reck this isn't really necessary however

[cosmic lance]

Yeah what banezi said

[still swift]

what do i do if my ww stacks are gone and i have full fury and im not enraged

and fighting multipel enemy

[oblique trail]

WW first

[smoky sonnet]

thanks a lot for the input

[oblique trail]

Then rampage

[covert blaze]

i was typing this

[snow edge]

It can be easy to fall into the trap of Rampaging too early, which will inevitably lead to those dry spells you're talking about

[still swift]

thats not BT-X-BT-X tho

?

[oblique trail]

That's why it's a general rule of thumb idjot

[still swift]

owned

[covert blaze]

nina

[slender perch]

still no leggo

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[wild mural]

get rolled

[snow edge]

Yes, many of us still no leggo

[slender perch]

yeah i know

XD

with leggo i will be much happier XD

[barren dagger]

So i should never press WW or slam in order to get rampage to proc bloodbath? If i’m able to BT before?

[snow edge]

Don't be so sure, Syi has leggo and he is still awful

[wild mural]

OI

prick

[covert blaze]

hoooly

[snow edge]

Got 'em

[cosmic lance]

Thats how you get the leggo isnt it?

[snow edge]

This man linking his leggo every chance he gets, gotta stop him

[covert blaze]

that's why i dont have it, im too good

[slender perch]

lol, was expecting full 99-100 logs

[oblique trail]

If you're under 80 rage and got BT ready, then you'd just press BT first then Rampage if BT gets you over 80 rage

[slender perch]

sadge lego wasted XD

[oblique trail]

Slam/WW is just if you have no BT ready and no Rampage

[wild mural]

no lol? my stats are fucked, our WFT is perma afk and honestly I just cba

[oblique trail]

Believe it or not the lego doesn't auto give you 99 logs =)

[wild mural]

I'll get CE and dip

[oblique trail]

You still have to know how to play your spec and many other variables outside of just having the lego

[covert blaze]

sending this to your RL rn

[wild mural]

he knows thats how I feel

[covert blaze]

[keen moon]

Do you guys keep cds for adds on gnarl or just send on mythic?

[slender perch]

RAT PACK!

[oblique trail]

I sent on CD

And got a 99

[slender perch]

i was going to trial with you and then decided not to due to other reasons

[oblique trail]

So 🤷‍♂️

[wild mural]

i just send also

[slender perch]

I can see Woosa in discord XD

[keen moon]

Okay. Got a 18 last night😅😅😅

[clever belfry]

Gnarl parses

xd

surely not dependant on kill timer and comp

[wild mural]

surely not

[covert blaze]

[clever belfry]

hey i have killed gnarl M on my warrior

as often as on my aug i believe

[covert blaze]

🧎‍♂️

[wild mural]

shoulda done it

angybench angle

[slender perch]

XD

im 7/9 atm anyway and times work better for me as I can only raid late

but hope you guys smash CE!

[wild mural]

ez surely :/

shame being 2 day guild

we would have killed smoldy weeks ago

if 3 day

[covert blaze]

copege

[clever belfry]

actually i killed gnarl more often on warr than aug

non believers

[wild mural]

[clever belfry]

3 > 2

[wild mural]

AndaW lives

[clever belfry]

its andaxd bro

[wild mural]

hjow should i know that

[clever belfry]

cause Anda was taken on TM (not on dentarg tho)

BOYS ITS BACK

[wild mural]

i dont remember my own chars names bro

[covert blaze]

ego restored

[wild mural]

yooo

[clever belfry]

actually ego restored holy moly

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/theomegaoof-humanity-humanity-restored-dark-souls-garfield-gif-8496901236505918781

anda rn

[oblique trail]

Yeah that's not a hold CDs or not issue

I'ma be real

[wild mural]

one day I'll have an ego to lose

[oblique trail]

Unless you literally hold your CDs for the entire fight

[covert blaze]

have you heard of ego death? it's pretty cool

[oblique trail]

Polyphia is indeed pretty good

[wild mural]

I literally can't develop an ego

[clever belfry]

imagine having an ego

[wild mural]

cause I suck

😄

[wild mural]

dude I love polyphia

[clever belfry]

and not be self deprecating on global

[wild mural]

(assuming you mean the band)

[covert blaze]

I like the song but im talking about the term

[keen moon]

Yeah, put in the log review channel, never had grey logs in my life since jumping into mythic

[sullen basin]

how do i figure out which weapon rune is the best one to use? cheapest or what

[fading sky]

hmm hissing

just take the mastery my m8

unless u severely overcapped i guess

[jolly mist]

grind p2 has started, hopefully i can complete the superbloom quest quickly today

its lego timeeeee

[sullen basin]

nah hastes still my highest lol i think i can get another like 10% before problems

even with iced phial i still end up with like 7+ BT with no cdr on OF it fucking sucks why cant i have like 40% crit all the time instead of haste

[fading sky]

wtf ?

how can haste be the highest ? what are u simmin ?

[sullen basin]

like 200k

im only 478

[fading sky]

what are u simmin ?

[sullen basin]

I have been actively trying to reduce haste but yknow

shit happens

[fading sky]

stat weights or real items

[sullen basin]

brb

items every time

[fading sky]

ok. well i dno 🙂 mine says haste not so good

im at 30

[sullen basin]

30 and 32 arent that far apart its what like 800 haste

one item maybe 2

when I get more aspects I can recraft my wrist/cape to crit/mastery or vers/mastery instead of haste/mastery thatll chop 500 off

[oblique trail]

Just use Hissing at all times. There will very rarely ever be a case where it's not the best

[sullen basin]

i havent been using them because i used to just arid

raid

and we had shammo

[fading sky]

hissing all the way imho as well

[sullen basin]

i bought 100 that should last me a couple weeks at least

[covert blaze]

what

[fading sky]

fuck crit ?

i mean ive got 26 With iced phial atm

[sullen basin]

shaman buff over-writes runes/weapon stones

[oblique trail]

huh

?

[sullen basin]

I only recently started doing keys since my gf resubbed and now I have someone to play with, 18s are easy so I be doing them now
Last week was my first week with a vault above hero

[covert blaze]

no?

[silent furnace]

Man is playing classic

[fading sky]

ehm

[covert blaze]

only for the shaman

[sullen basin]

btw i took tokens for a gem slot kekw

[fading sky]

wait what ?

[sullen basin]

is that for real

damn

[oblique trail]

bro

[sullen basin]

I played shaman last tier

[oblique trail]

Your runes dont get deleted by having a shaman lol

[sullen basin]

so I kinda just went with it

[narrow narwhal]

Bova bros...

[reef loom]

https://tenor.com/view/lethimcook-let-cook-woody-toy-story-gif-27531215

[still idol]

what to craft next

[sullen basin]

I coulda had 4%+ more mastery this whole time

[sullen basin]

transmogs

[oblique trail]

Neck/2nd Ring

[blissful kestrel]

probs craft boots

[oblique trail]

The boots are fine

[covert blaze]

sim another ring i guess

[oblique trail]

Whichever of the three you'd craft though, the gains would roughly be the same

[covert blaze]

it would also be very weird that your sim says haste

i think you are doing something wrong

[clever belfry]

my guy

why is ur might 486

what is that

[still idol]

its old scrren

its max

[clever belfry]

i hope so

[still idol]

dont worry

[covert blaze]

[blissful kestrel]

i just said boots cos he got socketed rings/belt/helm

[clever belfry]

id probably just craft lariat for dungs honest to god

who cares for 3 ilvl on booties

[oblique trail]

I suggest a ring as the highest prio, since it'll likely give him more of an increase than the crit/mast ring would

[covert blaze]

those boots are vers mastery and the ring isnt, should be close anyway

[oblique trail]

but at the end of the day, just sim it

To get a better idea than w/e we say

[still idol]

ok

[blissful kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

[clever belfry]

L

[clever belfry]

W

[covert blaze]

[blissful kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[sage ridge]

Reading the pinned message it says to use the legendary after both OF casts and roar with 8+ targets. Does this mean to just send Avatar, OF, and roar immediately then the use of the legendary?

[oblique trail]

No you're wasting uptime of your CDs by doing this. Use it after your CDs are down, or hold it for the next pack where you wont have Ava, Reck and Roar

[sullen basin]

my sim never said haste, i just did top gear and put the best shit on (single target, raider)

[covert blaze]

Ah, misunderstood then

[sage ridge]

I thought you were supposed to use it like this. Maybe it is just me but it is worded like you are supposed to use it after you pop CDs.

I guess I just read it wrong. Looking back it definetely means to use CDs then follow up with the use after that.

[sullen basin]

what settings do you guys use to sim aoe or do you just say fuck it go sim single target and wing it?

[oblique trail]

I sim Patchwerk 5 min 1 target and just use w/e it says is the best, and change trinkets around for what makes sense like Might + any good passive trinket like Augury/Ember/Crab

[hasty path]

Holy

[sullen basin]

simming aoe is weird too it makes things look way better (its like 200 dps ST but 4k aoe)

[fading sky]

ye i use like bloodmallets way of lookin at aoe and st trinekts and then 1taget sim with those

[subtle lagoon]

How come people are coming around to ember now, thought people were shitting on it a little while back

[fading sky]

prob coz legendary

[oblique trail]

Ember is great

[fading sky]

it has some more merit

and also signet is overrated

in many many encounters

[oblique trail]

It's a lot of mainstat + versa that's always active

[subtle lagoon]

I've always said ember was good

[fading sky]

i prob take signet in raid when i get to the last 3

[oblique trail]

Signet is as good as it sims

And it's not overrated, people just expect a ramping trinket to somehow be good in 2-3 min fights

[fading sky]

that was

what i meant with overrated

its freakin awesome once u hit about 6 min

[covert blaze]

oc of course

[fading sky]

let me share random pug dps

he has 4p

my man just made his own spec

[subtle lagoon]

Wish talent trees actually worked that way, allowing you to make builds instead of just sticking to one build and essentially be trolling if you do anything else

[jolly mist]

does anyone know how the concentraded vellum quest works

is it like actually possible for a party member to catch the orbs? they seem to shoot out in random ass directions

this takes sooo long to do alone

[violet trail]

I bet hes having way more fun than the rest of us

[formal ravine]

Doesn't even need to be party. They can catch more than one orb too. And then they have to target the caster and use the extra action button to throw the item at them which will count towards the percentage

[jolly mist]

is there any way to do this efficiently? i might start shouting in valdrakken or at the superbloom

[formal ravine]

Well the other thing is for every orb they catch they will be assigned an awakened element. So you need lets say 10 awakened frost or earth. Which I guess you want to buy and trade them so they help you

[fading sky]

i mean i dno if its fun having him do like 80k less dps than he could

[subtle lagoon]

Bet he doesn't even have details installed

[final birch]

Cant be 80k if max he can pull of would be like 100 anyway

[jolly mist]

wha

[violet trail]

Yeah but hes slamming the buttons that he loves and just vibin, not a care in the world playing his vydia. As it should be.

Because lets be real. Being pigeonholed into ONE talent build the whole season kinda sucks.

[covert blaze]

what's the alternative

[violet trail]

Just buff the rest of the talents to bring up other playstyles to the same level

[subtle lagoon]

Push another update that makes AM viable again like last season and let us blast

[fading sky]

lel that is prob the worst take ever vildaari

[violet trail]

And dont make tier sets that forces you to take certain talents.

[covert blaze]

[violet trail]

Yeah because having choices suck am I right?

[covert blaze]

just balance every build perfectly 4Hed

[fading sky]

u nver do

[oblique trail]

Having Tier Sets revolve around specific talents adds more depth to talents, or lets rarely (if ever) picked talents actually become good in their own right

[fading sky]

excatly

[oblique trail]

And at the end of the day, most of the time you'll be shoehorned into one single talent build anyway if you care about your performance

[fading sky]

excatly

and if u dont

u dont

[covert blaze]

yeah like destro taking dimensional rift this tier, you would never take that without this tier set

what youre proposing would require perfect balancing and there would be set in stone meta builds anyway

[violet trail]

Its unrealistic yes.

[oblique trail]

I don't particularly think that this current tier set is super interesting, but it allows picking OF which we haven't picked since the first half of S1

[sullen basin]

I like it because I can in theory take SMF without losing 100% dps, I only lose about 10%

[full viper]

Some of us still prefer ravager gameplay rather than odyn fury. It’s a dps loss but you can make it up if you play something you like and you play it better

Not every thing is about max dps

[covert blaze]

you control the build you play

everyone does

[fading sky]

it would always be the illusion of choice

as either dps or encounter would make u play whats best

forever never having any diversity

[covert blaze]

[fading sky]

we finally have tier back

and blizzard actually trying to make us play something a bit different each season

if u want change, man start an alt like the rest of us

or play something sub optimal

[sullen basin]

smf rb

[fading sky]

ye if u like lets be honest

in hc raid

it does not mater

vs just playing better

[violet trail]

Only warrior, playing anything else is being a traitor to the cause.

[fading sky]

im a legit self tormenter

[sullen basin]

if you want a change play arms

they like haste allegedly

[fading sky]

i only play 2h str users this tier

😄

[violet trail]

I do like that they mix stuff up each season and we arent just getting "Have some more execute damage"

Like we got last season. Big pog.

I wonder when they will run out of ideas for tier though.

[covert blaze]

man had a 180 change of heart in 5 minutes

based

[violet trail]

I change my mind every 5 minutes about things dont worry about it.

Though I do believe if certain talents are WAAAY behind they should be brought up a bit.

So it enables people to play slightly different things without lossing like 50k DPS

[covert blaze]

tbf the kind of player that wants to play something different shouldn't care about numbers

at that point just play for fun if you're not going to be optimal

just my opinion tho

[sullen basin]

if you wanna play for fun get the legendary

[violet trail]

Still not having fun. Next week for sure

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[violet trail]

Got 2 lessers and a greater this week. Its a sign I promise.

[mild kraken]

Fury is the only fun spec in the game

[violet trail]

I would rather be playing arms tbh but Fury is needed for my raid team so.

[amber tinsel]

this season i don't find it realy funy compare to S2

[sullen basin]

real

[mild kraken]

This tier is delaying my carpel tunnel and I’m not mad tbh

[sullen basin]

I was told that greaters from lower tiers dont help on higher ones, do they stick aroudn every week or do they only work for that week because no way blizzard tracks 4-5 different BLPs

[covert blaze]

blp is forever

[subtle lagoon]

wdym it's the funniest shit, one of our bis trinkets is the rarest in the game, and the legendary also has a very low chance of acquirement, it's hysterical

[covert blaze]

it wouldn't be blp otherwise lol

[hasty path]

What’s bova

[mild kraken]

What is blp

[covert blaze]

deez nuts

bad luck protection

[mild kraken]

I’m never asking you a question again after that one

[hasty path]

Who’s on first

[mild kraken]

Who’s on second

[covert blaze]

cmon i did answer you

[hasty path]

Shut up I’m talking to Shia

[mild kraken]

You replied me

[hasty path]

There’s no proof

[covert blaze]

Who

[hasty path]

Asked

[covert blaze]

[mild kraken]

There’s no proof you have legendary either

[hasty path]

Checkmate Buddhist

[mild kraken]

🧢

[hasty path]

Legendary + 489 gorehowl offhand

[mild kraken]

Ban this guy

[hasty path]

On my alt

[covert blaze]

this guy doesnt even play warrior

[hasty path]

^

[sullen basin]

average legendary obtainer

[slim coral]

chainsaw swords when

[sullen basin]

my talents builds have vanished

[wild mural]

the lament in wow when

[mild kraken]

Classic

[slim coral]

Guts sword when

[hasty path]

That’s a thing already

[slim coral]

where

[sullen basin]

onehanders

[slim coral]

if it's ugly I'll be very upset

bruh you guys cannot count 1 handers

fuck off

[hasty path]

Maybe not for 2h but 1h had chainsaw swords in classic and BfA at least

[sullen basin]

is that warframe

[clever belfry]

bro is not even orange heroic average

[hasty path]

I’m like 470

[wild mural]

destiny

[oblique trail]

Just excuses

[hasty path]

Doesn’t matter still have legendary

[oblique trail]

You might have orange weapon but I have above orange average parses

Who's the real winner

[sullen basin]

same shit different wipes

[hasty path]

Me

Parsed are temporary legendary is forever

And my main has pink average parses

So who’s the real real winner

[clever belfry]

tank parses

[oblique trail]

not you because you're a tank lol

[hasty path]

Shut up shut up shut up

[sullen basin]

legendary ilvl boost in fated(1) + legendary catchup for easier quest will make it better to parse than to have orange now B)

[hasty path]

I have legendary you don’t

[clever belfry]

u have

the questitem

u do not have the legendary

😎

[oblique trail]

You have the lego on a class where the tank is a 1+shield

[hasty path]

Ya I have a job haven’t been able to farm yet

[clever path]

cant wait to get the leggo

in s4

with the omnitoken

[clever belfry]

cringe

cager

[clever path]

[hasty path]

I don’t actually like prot I just play it in alr raid so random people in guild don’t have to tank

[clever belfry]

i had a call with my professor today which wasnt that bad and lasted 10min

but i had a 2h anxiety episode after

and i couldnt sleep tonight

gg

[covert blaze]

90% of the people playing your spec are standing still pressing expel harm and purifying brew and nothing else

[hasty path]

Well I have a 2h legendary

[clever belfry]

REAL

[covert blaze]

i got my message censored btw

[hasty path]

You don’t even raid

[covert blaze]

i read this as ''two handed anxiety episode''

[clever belfry]

as u should

[covert blaze]

yes

[mild kraken]

Bruh

[hasty path]

I have like

50 superbloom points left

Then I’m good to start crafting

So I should get it tonight easily

[robust widget]

no

[hasty path]

ok

[proud vessel]

Can you still get leggo from Normal if you've already done hc?

[robust widget]

no

[hasty path]

Gonna be honest I don’t think so

Like to break shitpost character

The screenshot from my drop is pretty strong evidence in favor of heroic accumulating multiple hidden rolls

So if you just do heroic it likely rolls for LFR and normal in the same kill

[frosty scroll]

It does, yes

[warm crag]

copied and yoinked ty

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-pissi-twitch-7tv-gif-7223094372649290081

you get this gif i got from keane

[glad coyote]

its not likely it is

[oblique trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/369745816954339329/892225981815865414/ezgif-2-6226ec5dbb4a.gif

[warm crag]

thats my rat !!!!

[oblique trail]

Who has rat in their characters name

That's right, it's me

So it's my rat now

[hasty path]

https://tenor.com/view/friend-gif-6089372807563181802

[clever belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1192822949552599201/bgbumpyoxlac1.png?ex=65aa79f0&is=659804f0&hm=eb150d7a98b387c114a419c4e54eb54f31fcf9b32ad0747adb4188223a6f8f46&

[grim shadow]

Hi guys sorry- can you cancel the leggo cast with a macro? or am I justr hardstuck channeling?

[warm crag]

hardstuck afaik

[tidal kindle]

You are stuck till it finishes or till you die

I actually haven't tried weapon swapping

[balmy shore]

hard stuck (i wouldn’t know)

[glad coyote]

side note with the lego is the cone, if your tank moves them out of it while channeling ya screwed

[digital charm]

good to know thanks!

Still working out how best to use the thing

[slim pollen]

Full send and blame blizz for poor deisgn if you die!!

[digital charm]

haha indeed, has already killed me a couple of times >.<

[sleek parrot]

are empowered bloodthirst and execute higher prio than rampage even if I'm overcapping rage?

[pliant lantern]

Bloodbath always higher prio than rampage.

Execute only higher prio if you are running execute focused talents.

Even then I think the api only presses it if your between 85-110 rage or if Iron Jugg is about to fall off

[wet notch]

So better off just doing heroic fyrakk instead lfr/normal/heroic?

[pliant lantern]

Yes, just do heroic. It rolls all lower difficulties at the same time

[wet notch]

Sorry for the dumb question. Just wanted to make sure my thinking was straight

[sleek parrot]

by empowered bt I meant bt with tier buff

[digital charm]

I did LFR then got a BLP from it then it dropped on normal. if you can be bothered and have the time I would recommend all of them, there are loads of groups for it... just make sure to LFR>N>H. might not actually change anything but the BLP item will surely help.

[clever belfry]

cope

cope

cope

cope

[wild mural]

cope

cope

cope

cope

[clever belfry]

🐌

[wild mural]

just loot it

[indigo quarry]

cope
cope
cope
cope

[humble plover]

[edgy oasis]

legendary quest is LOOOOOOONG. anyone got tips?

[humble plover]

Bring a friend or 2

Best I got

[burnt pollen]

abandon

[edgy oasis]

imagine having a guild that helped.

[humble plover]

I didn't lol. Just asked some bros

[wild mural]

soloed it

ez

[unreal onyx]

what

[sleek parrot]

check comp wow subreddit, some guy had bunch of tips yesterday

[earnest galleon]

i havent seen one drop at all in any difficulty

[pliant lantern]

You can use the leaf quest item on yourself for a guaranteed 50% buff

Make sure you join pf groups for Superbloom

[unreal onyx]

I got mine yesterday and im almost 50% done already from the farming stuff

[edgy oasis]

its more the rares then the guarenteed superbloom.

[pliant lantern]

To make sure you get an epic bag each time

[edgy oasis]

w

[sinful spoke]

I did it in one day

[unreal onyx]

I don't get the reasoning for the 5min CD on the disenchanting gear item