some do this on 10-20 char because its kinda their full time job
#fury
indigo quarry
hard widget
Like who?
unreal onyx
pro boosters
atomic nymph
I mean ye idk what the sample size are like for your guilds but out of 5 mains + 2 alts farming it, 3 people have it
indigo quarry
we dont do alt on my guild
indigo quarry
we have seen 1 on prot pal
unreal onyx
me and a ret pally got one
hard widget
Heroic boosters are really not gonna bother with 15 chars to get the leggo
atomic nymph
Nah i mean just people that run it every week, not guild related, just stat- wise
unreal onyx
everyone runs hc every week tho
indigo quarry
i'm even doing normal and lfr
to see if people drop them
and i only saw 1
overall
those screenshot with 4 people getting it
unreal onyx
overall I also saw it drop today for the first time
clever path
first one i saw drop was mine on tuesday
formal ravine
And with how this leggo is i rather have more weapons like gavel
atomic nymph
Mostly just trying to establish a rought percentage of people that are farming it, who have dropped it. Idk if the ~40% is an outlier or if other people have similar stats by now
clever path
i saw another in an alt run today
indigo quarry
so i did 3 difficulty with 30 people this week
unreal onyx
I doubt you can get a accurate result of people having leggo if you take this discord as a sample size
indigo quarry
and none dropped
past pivot
I've seen 1 in a key I've run. 0 in raids. On any toon
indigo quarry
the problem is remembering the number of guy that were eligible
tardy lark
2/8 possible chars have it in my guild
hard widget
and none dropped
You either get it or not, i mean its a legendary, it isnt supposed to be dropped as a hot potato
violet trail
Our prot paladin was the first one to get the legendary in our guild.
unreal onyx
you also don't know how many greater embers or lessers they got before dropping it
tardy lark
BDK for us, so thats kinda fine
indigo quarry
juicy as fuck for BDK
indigo quarry
you also don't know how many greater embers or lessers they got before dropping ...
i feel like they are both there just to be there
i'm at 13 now lesser now
fading sky
so they have to do *something*
Not if intention is nothinfæ
indigo quarry
sprinkle
fallow oracle
anyone seen a sim crack 245k yet?
north edge
I was blessed with 1 on my 5th warrior last week 😄
unreal onyx
anyone seen a sim crack 245k yet?
lemme try some rq
indigo quarry
anyone seen a sim crack 245k yet?
not sure we can go higher
fallow oracle
i mean an equipped char
indigo quarry
we are so far into the min / max dr everything is cursedc
atomic nymph
I could maybe push it with mythic aug + signet https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9LUePsMNuqYgyMq82uzZNM
fallow oracle
im at 244.8k
indigo quarry
yo wtf link sim
modest condor
im at 222k 🙃
past pivot
It did motivate to work on my other plate toons. Last week when I was off, I got my ret from 425 to 471 and my uhbdk from 422 to 435 or something like that
indigo quarry
im at 222k 🙃
you really sux at looting
modest condor
i dooo
indigo quarry
real skill issue right there
how bad
just how bad can your luck be
to not be in the 230k
patent cove
is there a solid bis wep enchant or are we just simming it
past pivot
is there a solid bis wep enchant or are we just simming it
Depends. Wafting for most but sophic, earthen and even frozen are in play
modest condor
legendary weapon would be a 12k dps increase
lucid plover
i bet if i was double shadowflame i would be 245k
can u write ur stats %?
fallow oracle
should have got the guild to buy me boe boots when asked 
restive peak
Jesus bro
indigo quarry
thats some nasty sim
restive peak
I'm over here simmin 231k at 8/9, sadness is fuckin real
indigo quarry
illegal stuff right there
past pivot
can u write ur stats %?
Stat % mean nothing. It's all based on gear
lucid plover
Stat % mean nothing. It's all based on gear
unreal onyx
even more
violet trail
Mans getting 6 PIs
lucid plover
well I have lot less
indigo quarry
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1eY1F7MjiSxacHxGEJLnnq
i'm calling the police
you are donezo
unreal onyx
doable
indigo quarry
thats technically the best bis you can get ?
past pivot
well I have lot less
You also don't have Augury and a 483 OH compared to his 489. Those 2 alone are a big chunk of damage.
violet trail
4 missing actually
indigo quarry
go try with some lariat and shit too now 😄
restive peak
That's missin sockets too
unreal onyx
where
indigo quarry
its buggy somehow
patent sinew
Just to double check... if i do Heroic raid.... there's no chance Leggo will drop on LFR after right?
frosty patrol
no
patent sinew
Cool.. saves time not doing it
clever path
Cool.. saves time not doing it
but you can still do mythic 😄
cunning rune
fury 😁
unique fable
i feel like every week warriors fall lower and lower on the tier list for m+
tawny sundial
hey guys what would you say its the non-rampage priority?
Execute > slam > bloodthirst > ww?
tawny sundial
which occasions? low fury?
olive wraith
Optimally if you have less than 110 rage you press bt before ramp
tawny sundial
😮 so even if you can ramp you try to go up to 110 rage before
unreal onyx
even if you can ramp you want to use BB
olive wraith
You basically want to cast bt every other gcd
snow edge
BT feeds into our tier set bonus, and is buffed by a lot of talents in our tree; so it has high priority
olive wraith
If you cast ramp right when it’s available you can sometimes run into the issue of having empty gcd
tawny sundial
So if you dont cap rage its better to use bt before rampage, right? so you gain a gcd
olive wraith
I mean you don’t “gain” a gcd
You’re just improving your chances of not having dead gcd
tawny sundial
got it
meager void
wait sorry when were all these prio conditions developed?
olive wraith
Wdym
meager void
Optimally if you have less than 110 rage you press bt before ramp
this is my 100% honest first time reading anything like this about t31
meager void
You basically want to cast bt every other gcd
and this too
olive wraith
Double check wowhead to confirm
tawny sundial
Also ramp>exec if you’re gonna rage cap I’m pretty sure
that I know and agree
tawny sundial
I was wondering about the "right" moment to rampage and what to use before it and with what priority
olive wraith
Bt every other gcd has been a general rule since season start afaik
tawny sundial
Im usually doing bt -> slam -> bt -> ww, and rampage as soon as I have enough rage
That last part I think its not always correct
meager void
Bt every other gcd has been a general rule since season start afaik
I mean, it generally happens. But I've never seen as a rule.
olive wraith
There will be times when you’re semi rage starved
meager void
This means and has meant "bt every other gcd"?
olive wraith
“Bt on cooldown to reduce gaps in rotation”
edgy widget
I mean, it generally happens. But I've never seen as a rule.
“Rule” may be an ambiguous term, but it has been a general “guideline” yes
olive wraith
Which is basically every other gcd
Rule of thumb wavy hand
Not a hard and fast rule
edgy widget
You more or less do want to keep BT on cd, which would be every other GCD, in order to reduce the likelihood of dead gcds
There are times when you may ignore that (during Reck, Frenzied Bloodthirst, and Execute), but it is a good general guideline to follow
meager void
Thank you very much guys.
olive wraith
Right i forgot to mention if you have AJ execute is higher than bt and ?ramp?
And you’re in execute range
meager void
I've been kinda doing it for this same reasons you state but never intentionally
like, the empty GCDs push you into doing that
but if you do it proactively, less empty GCDs
edgy widget
The point is that with Reckless Abandon and Annihilator, spending rage ASAP isn’t your primary concern the way it is with Anger Management
Also if enrage falls off, ofc prio rampage > bt
tight igloo
why is rise such a tight timer
frank dawn
Because you spend 5 minutes running around and watching RP
past pivot
why is rise such a tight timer
Time is relative
inner zinc
yeah its relatively short
inner zinc
sanguine doesnt help either
meager void
thanks again, great guidance.
magic comet
has anyone had an issue where after casting odyn's fury with titan torment, it not freeing you from the root on the Tindral Sageswift fight? Like for some reason it does not break the root for me 1 out of every 3 times or so.
snow edge
If you already have Avatar running from the actual Avatar cast, it won't; if you have Avatar running from an OF cast, then cast actual Avatar, it will
Think Silm or someone told me that awhile back
magic comet
i bet it was something like this
devout apex
tehre was a cata charge this week right? im not tripping
wild mural
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tpTj2GG2wR9VAxWRctJrUU
idk why I'm like 1k dps behind u
tight igloo
imagine getting axe
wild mural
me whos had augury since week one and on week 5 of no axe
Me who’s had axe for 2 weeks and not seen augury since week 2
violet condor
i just want my axe so badly...
mild kraken
the only 2 augurys in my guild went to the same player heroic in bags, myth track equipped
wild mural
I want my augury so bad
sullen dove
fiendish clown shit giving a second augury to someone that already has one if other people still need it 💀
wild mural
Ours went to our DHs one of whom has gone MIA 3 weeks ago
violet condor
I want my augury so bad
whats ur pfp from?
wild mural
whats ur pfp from?
Helluva boss
mild kraken
fiendish clown shit giving a second augury to someone that already has one if ot...
thats what i thought
violet condor
i unfortunatley got augury week then got in my vault the very next week and it hasnt dropped in weeks for anyone else in raid
wild mural
Well we’re gonna stop reclearing now so I should start having a chance at augury in vaul
inland zodiac
Please excuse my ignorant question. I don’t raid at all but since they keep buffing the legendary thought I might start. I know the drop chance is “better” in higher difficulties but is it always 496 ilvl regardless of raid difficulty that’s it’s earned in?
sullen dove
yes
wild mural
Yes
inland zodiac
Thanks!
ebon junco
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/og3wWC9XTTzxUo7BQFV4xo <:deadge:900279927...
too much haste
wild mural
Ugh
wild mural
Yes
indigo quarry
we dead
fading bane
🪤
indigo quarry
now that big player are reclearing its offical
frail trout
what boss is tilting the scale so badly
because smolderon tells a different story
maybe we just deal way too little damage outside of our cds
young swan
prob fyrakk too
modest condor
nah we're actually doing pretty well on fyrak
frail trout
I guess its council and tindral dragging us down
fast crest
shouldnt council be bad for most melee
frail trout
gnarlroot, igira and larodar are also kinda bad
those bosses I kinda understand though cuz we are making a clear trade
ebon junco
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w1R3n2eW8cL4DoNSJjF8qn
ur sim starts @ 239.7k ur other sim started at 241.2k
frail trout
even if my boss dam is low I'm #1 spears by far
ebon junco
im goin bed so im to lazy to check xd
frail trout
less so on larodar I guess
I hope the warrior placement baits blizzard into buffing arms a little bit though
cosmic lance
Pretty much every fight where we take cleave talents we're low on boss damage numbers, which isn't really surprising
frail trout
cuz fury seems fine
frank dawn
buff all plate dps
young swan
plate dps arent doing great
indigo quarry
fuck lego
young swan
plate dps arent doing great
frank dawn
It's good to be good at the important bosses, but I really dislike that when people say a spec doesn't need buffs because of it (not saying you are). There's still a whole lot of other game to play besides 1-3 bosses
frail trout
if you look at each individual boss after subtracting council and tindral
fury seriously looks just fine
those 2 are curbstomping our average
into the dirt
cosmic lance
We're in the top third on volcoross and smolderon too, which probably means that our ST loss for taking cleave talents is higher than other specs i guess
frail trout
is tindral meaningful damage though
indigo quarry
volcoross is a joke
frail trout
or are you just evaporating roots instantly with burst classes
indigo quarry
smoldy boy doesnt matter either
frail trout
when they would die anyway slightly slower
young swan
they need to evaporate
meager void
when yellows disagree, it only hurts the children.
young swan
slower isnt really an option
fading bane
Fury is very solid for the last 3 bosses
fading bane
We're in the top third on volcoross and smolderon too, which probably means that...
its not, you just kinda always CD on adds as fury, cus your CDs usually line up with them, and u pump on add spawns
cosmic lance
Yeah true, i'm not raiding much this tier so idk about how the fight timings work
indigo quarry
Fury is very solid for the last 3 bosses
not rogue lvl 
fading bane
Rogue do be wacko mode
indigo quarry
we arent bad at all
for sure
but god damn the diff
i'm used to warlock being top tier because reason
tulip swallow
without bshout I think you bring 0, no cap
young swan
yeah i mean u would just bring another dh or rogue
indigo quarry
rally
fading bane
Rally
frank dawn
does rally even matter with the nerfs for any mechanic
fading bane
Fury is really good for Fyrakk intermissions
frank dawn
or do you just use it because you have a bshout warrior in anyway
young swan
rogue better
tulip swallow
it's there but tuning isn't going to be within 10% hp of getting oneshot
indigo quarry
rally is secretly shit now
frank dawn
rally is secretly shit now
not so secret xd
cosmic lance
it's there but tuning isn't going to be within 10% hp of getting oneshot
Not by the time most guilds get to those fights at least
frank dawn
Rally isn't a bad button, but it's not something you need either. I'd like it to get the 100% increased treatment outside of raids like most of the other cooldowns got tho
because even before the nerfs it was dog shit in dungeons
and now it's just more so
fading bane
The only thing rally got over most other cds like amz and darkness is that you can just press it with no setup
dont need to stack
indigo quarry
The only thing rally got over most other cds like amz and darkness is that you c...
that is great for sure
tulip swallow
because people kept coping that it was super duper op
indigo quarry
its the special blizzard dropkick nerf to the ground
tulip swallow
I would rather they remove it completely so people can stop using it as the "win argument" button for warrior utility
dapper estuary
The rally nerf was such a kick in the dick for our "utility"
frozen bay
They can keep it like it is if they add extra functionallity to it for smaller groups like darkness or w/e
frank dawn
the one decent button we had, and then only in raids, and we have nothing else
yeah better double nerf that button
👍
dapper estuary
100% they don't touch it and make it like darkness
It's borderline useless in M+ now, a measly 10% compared to pre nerf + inspiring
fading bane
barely worth a talent point
restive peak
Surely we're next rework
frozen bay
Nah thats DK
restive peak
And if not we are in trouble lol
frozen bay
warr last
dapper estuary
DK dps specs need a rework too tbf
tulip swallow
waiting for the war within beta notes where they gush about how happy they are with warrior talent tree
young swan
would be surprised if it isnt like monk, warr, dk
cosmic lance
Its really not something you can throw out on its own as a CD and expect it to make much of a difference thats for sure
restive peak
Delete DK change my mind
fading bane
Rework Warrior Class Tree and Arms
restive peak
I mean arms is just....dead
young swan
fury too
dapper estuary
Blizz forget warrior literally exists
restive peak
Like, it's just fury but diff buttons; same APM, you literally ignore rage
fading bane
Arms is omega downbad
restive peak
And way worse dmg/tankiness
dapper estuary
I don't think we will see anything for warrior for awhile, think monk & dk will be before us
frozen bay
Its a shame, arms is more fun
fading bane
i dont think
young swan
I don't think we will see anything for warrior for awhile, think monk & dk will ...
i mean we're not seeing anything before TWW and i would be surprised if they rework less than 3 classes during the alpha/beta cycle
frank dawn
I really don't want a fury rework. It could use a few tweaks, the warrior class tree is probably in "rework" state but that might be aggressive to say
but yeah arms is awful
tulip swallow
my theory is they always make the warrior shit first then they do everything else when they actually know what the game is going to be like
fading bane
Fury treee is fine
tulip swallow
then never go back to revisit warrior
dapper estuary
I dont mind fury just being pre anhiliator lol
fading bane
youve had multiple different builds the entire expac
dapper estuary
But arms is screwed atm
young swan
fine != good
young swan
to me, being the same spec for 6 years isnt "fine"
fading bane
and degen playstyle of just dump dump dump rage
young swan
same goes for arms
frank dawn
to me, being the same spec for 6 years isnt "fine"
I get that, but man...blizzard track record on redoing specs gameplay isn't exactly a winning proposition
restive peak
Go play a reworked spec, then come back to ours; we need reworks, we have so many conflicting things and the reworked ones have sick synergy everywhere
frank dawn
like making fury feel different to play, is different form what most of these reworks have been. imo
restive peak
Which is why they're so good
dapper estuary
I think they did a great job with ret
young swan
I get that, but man...blizzard track record on redoing specs gameplay isn't exac...
i mean they went from wod -> legion -> bfa
and all of those I would call successes in their own rights
dapper estuary
Hope arms gets some good treatment and a fresh design
fading bane
just revert to legion
restive peak
This is the worst I can remember feeling about our spec, TBH; could be recency bias, but this feels the weakest/weirdest/least useful we've ever been
snow edge
At this stage even an aura buff for 10.2.5 would be welcome
young swan
the fact that the best concept they could come up with for the fury tree is rb vs bt says enough about how inspired our tree was
restive peak
^
dapper estuary
This is the worst and downbad i've felt playing my warrior
young swan
like yeah fury is playable and even enjoyable (mainly because it just kinda flows like it has since bfa) but its sure as shit not exciting
frank dawn
This is the worst and downbad i've felt playing my warrior
I meannnnnnn, the worst? We aren't that downbad as fury imo.
dapper estuary
Theres the issue of us being pretty much useless compared to other DPS specs
frozen bay
annihilator is NOT enjoyable man
restive peak
Ye, I mean I still come back to my warr and I love my warr, but I enjoyed the last 2 season playstyles more
dapper estuary
Im mainly an arms enjoyer, and i hate annihilator
fading bane
Its my favourite fury itteration of the expansion 🤷♂️
frozen bay
snow edge
Builds and playstyles are subjective; that doesn't factor in to spec power / viability
modest condor
i would be able to play AM fury for 20 years and still have fun
restive peak
^
dapper estuary
^
cosmic lance
AM fury feels like you have CDs for literally everything
fading bane
eh, Reck and Ravager didnt dont really feel like cds
restive peak
Less skill expression, but definitely more enjoyable to play
frank dawn
I think with the set bonus, the anni build is pretty fun personally. And the BB crits in execute are good dopamine for me. But without the set bonus, anni fury has zero dopamine I'll agree with that
modest condor
ravager definitely does
snow edge
Sure, but I don't mind playing annihilator providing the spec power is decent
fading bane
On AoE
restive peak
uhhh Ravager was siiiick
modest condor
it's 30% str on st too
fading bane
the real CD is just Hurricane
dapper estuary
I love ravager and hurricane
restive peak
Noones takin ravager w/o hurricane, lettuce be real
restive peak
Alright surely we get to P3 fyrakk tn, wish me luck bois
dire vigil
I love the synergy of empowering a signature move like we have with bloodbath, but man.. we need some throughput power in mass aoe
fading bane
Make OF give Hurriance 
dapper estuary
Pressing slam on fury 
young swan
i want bloodbath nuked from the game or renamed
frank dawn
yeh slam is a super snooze button
young swan
give me back my cd
modest condor
i like how people keep going on about slam this slam that
meanwhile whirlwind exists
fading bane
i dont get the slam argument
young swan
i dont either
fading bane
pressing ww feels so bad on ST
dire vigil
Slam my head against the monitor
young swan
i dislike pressing ww in ST way more than pressing slam
modest condor
ww doesnt even generate rage in st build
fading bane
pressing slam idm, but having to press ww is despair
young swan
ww fucking sucks to press in st
fading bane
is it even worth to ww on st instead of waiting half a global
dapper estuary
WW on ST feels absolutely horrible tbf
unique fable
being rage deprived and all buttons on cd is the worst 
frank dawn
but how often are you actually playing zero rage ww build? I'd rather hit ww, when I get rage, than slam lol
like I get the zero rage thing, not arguing that, but you only play that on...2 bosses?
young swan
3
fading bane
Smold Nymue Volcock
modest condor
and some people on tindral
fading bane
oh ye i never played ww on tindral
fading bane
slam does some dmg and generates rage
modest condor
it's just raging blow but slightly less rage
fading bane
ww does no dmg and no rage
graceful fern
Question: When sequencing Odyn's Fury and Avatar, I cast the Odyn's Fury, do I then wait for the mini Avatar to fall off, or do I wait for the Dancing Blades to fall off before hard casting Avatar?
fading bane
Annihilator itself feels really nice
modest condor
afaik slam does more damage than base bt
restive peak
Whereas we pressed BT as filler last tier, and now slam is
fading bane
just more rage from autoing
modest condor
Question: When sequencing Odyn's Fury and Avatar, I cast the Odyn's Fury, do I t...
you wanna wait until the OF dot has less than 1 second remaining
so just press it in the last second of avatar
modest condor
Whereas we pressed BT as filler last tier, and now slam is
i dont think you can compare bt last tier to slam current tier, bt was actually a big button that you built towards
dire vigil
Has anyone figured out at what point adding haste and crit outdoes stacking more mastery and vers?
tepid scroll
so just press it in the last second of avatar
Does it extend the duration more if doing this? Like is it uber bad if you miss it by a second?
fading bane
when sims tell u
and at 487 u still dont gem any haste or crit, even with insane amounts of vers and mastery
dire vigil
when sims tell u
What would be the best way to find that breakpoint? Because ilvl is one thing, but I’m talking about what max % should you get before prioritizing other stats via recrafting with new missives or gemming
fading bane
simming
modest condor
Does it extend the duration more if doing this? Like is it uber bad if you miss ...
avatar fully extends duration, odyn's fury only pandemics 30% of the duration
fading bane
you just sims gems and enchants, crit is kinda just never good
fading bane
and haste is also just not good after getting a decent amount
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90kPZgSLKYc
havnt watched this, but watch a guide on simming if youre not familiar
olive grail
Anyone know the soft cap for mastery is?
modest condor
there is none
dire vigil
Thanks. I’m familiar with top gear and the simple patchwerk sim, but not so much with identifying which stats to opt for
restive peak
i dont think you can compare bt last tier to slam current tier, bt was actually ...
Yeah I know, was moreso saying it's a filler button that isn't spammed; ofc tier made it diff, but you get the drift. People bein weird about slam are weird
modest condor
you dont have to identify which stats to opt for, you can just do the sims and they will tell you what to equip
dire vigil
Ok. In my specific situation, I am switching from wrist guards and shadowflame cloak to lariat and cloak because I got mastery vers socketed myth wrists from raid and I have a good amount of gems with that added one. So I want to know whether to craft a mastery vers lariat or mastery haste, and then which gems to get for the proc.
tepid scroll
avatar fully extends duration, odyn's fury only pandemics 30% of the duration
So there is no major drawback if you accidenally cast it a second late? I have the opener down but wondering if I should get an ava tracker
It being avatar on opener
gilded pawn
may as well
cosmic lance
Ok. In my specific situation, I am switching from wrist guards and shadowflame c...
You can sim that in top gear if you grab the simc strings from WoWhead for those stat crafted items, or you can use gearcompare
modest condor
So there is no major drawback if you accidenally cast it a second late? I have t...
well, i mean, if you're late you will drop avatar for a second and while 1 second of avatar isn't much in the grand scheme of things it's still a second during cooldowns without 20% bonus (could be a roar tick, an auto attack, accidentally pressing buffed bloodbath before you press avatar)
gilded pawn
im just saying
dire vigil
You can sim that in top gear if you grab the simc strings from WoWhead for those...
Got it, ill ask if I have an issue lol 💯👍🏼
gilded pawn
hekili solves that problem
modest condor
Ok. In my specific situation, I am switching from wrist guards and shadowflame c...
gear compare lets you easily sim different stats on crafted items by just clicking duplicate gearset and changing the stats
tepid scroll
I feel like hekili is slower though then just spamming blood bath rampage outside of cds and slam if you cant
and whirlwind if you cant slam
Question is it better to make sure you hit Bloodthirst after the fillter rotation abilities instead of rampage first if you arent going to cap rage. For OF resets?
gilded pawn
you can literally just use hekili to track your odyns ava
modest condor
pain & gain (or crushing force if you're playing that)
static nest
so i assume the answer is yes
modest condor
personally never really cared to take it tbh
naive summit
does dstance work with the smolderon tank soak
restive peak
What do you mean
naive summit
does it reduce the absorb that you get
restive peak
Just reduces dmg
naive summit
or does smolderon do a hit that can be reduced by dstance
restive peak
Anything that does dmg is reduced, absorbs are not
covert blaze
It does damage and then puts an absorb
naive summit
kk is the dmg significant at all on mythic ifeel like the scariest thing is the absorb
modest condor
not really
you'll never die to the tank soak unless you're like the only other person in it
in which case you were wiping anyway
you can use IV to help with getting rid of the absorb
but generally your healers should have cooldowns set up for every one of them so the absorb should be gone in 2-3 seconds max anyway
covert blaze
IV is p good
restive peak
You could also fuckup the drop timings, if you're dying to the absorb your healers are fuckin around
Esp as fury
Ideally you all get healed together or close so you have drops from it to risk dying dodgin tornados
arctic tinsel
Crazy korean guy keeps insisting as soon as you use the embers your chances of getting the weapon goes up 😂😂😂
sullen dove
arctic tinsel
Says go do lfr and normal eat embers this chances so your chances are higher for the week
full stone
what is a melee spec that is always needed in raid?
like the melee version of lock
dark elbow
Arms Warrior is required.
dark elbow
Without an Arms Warrior the raid will fall apart quick
sullen dove
brave cairn
Arms would fall apart first before anything happens to the raid
full stone
dh is like always meta though it seems in raid and keys
when will war get its chance to be king?
sullen dove
dh def one of the strongest raid buffs in the game if not the strongest damage wise
brave cairn
When they buff Rally like they did Darkness
dark elbow
If you switch to arms you will already be a king amongst men
sullen dove
5% magic damage increase when 70% of the classes in the game are magic damage
100% locked in there should be a dh in every raid
gilded pawn
I would say it’s arcane int
Since it buffs healers
But dh is close second
And #1 among melees ofc
sullen dove
yea i mean int helps them heal sure, did edit to reiterate damage
dh buff is worth more than int for damage
gilded pawn
Yeah
Since everyone that gets int also benefits from dh
But dh works on magic melees too
Like frost dk
sullen dove
ya
pally is all holy
rogue has some shadow
and by contrast monk debuff is worse than battle shout
still obsidian
not sure how to use this legendary lmao
sullen dove
cuz like... theres 2-3 actual physical dps classes i think
aside from tanks and shit
well
brave cairn
not sure how to use this legendary lmao
It's alright, you can pass it to me
sour elbow
Can someone tell me how good or bad of a target we are for targeted Aug buffs?
gilded pawn
unholy is a pretty big chunk of melee
Unholy pet melees are mostly shadow I believe
sullen dove
probably decent during cds and without a doubt atrocious outside of them
gilded pawn
Ur not sure
gilded pawn
Can someone tell me how good or bad of a target we are for targeted Aug buffs?
Mediocre at best
sullen dove
only things that are physical is the dk/army and ghoul
gilded pawn
Monk itself has some nature and fire garbage
sullen dove
warrior/rogue/feral, i think ww is mostly physical?
o and hunter
p sure
yea monks like 20% or so magic
at least this rough breakdown of what i think is a semi decent opener on a 422 fella
sullen dove
subs like.. 20%
maybe a little more
but yea idk how much of assa is poisons and whatever
modest condor
Can someone tell me how good or bad of a target we are for targeted Aug buffs?
depends how much dps you're doing compared to the other people in your raid
if you're topping dps then you're probably the best aug target during cds
sour elbow
bleh. Are there any weird APL issues with logs for us? or not really?
modest condor
im not sure what you mean, the APL has nothing to do with logs
sour elbow
me either in my covid brain atm :D, but question is regarding logs
warm crag
you gotta be a bit more specific than that
mild kraken
How you become stormforged?
modest condor
be active, be helpful, be knowledgable, and get recognized by the other stormforged
young swan
be active, be helpful, be knowledgable, and get recognized by the other stormfor...
this is a better answer
warm crag
unlucky to be categorically banned
mild kraken
this is a better answer
XD
modest condor
not being an idiot isnt really required otherwise i wouldnt be stormforged
nor would @mossy fox
young swan
theres varying degrees of idiocy
loud locust
is there a way to show my keybindings on my weakuara that tells me my skills
modest condor
not that i know
young swan
you can have tooltips on weakauras and you can have them set up in the same order as on your bars but I dont think theres a way to superimpose the keybinding from your bar onto the weakaura
sour elbow
Sorry was dying IRL, yea basically just asking if we have any known log bugs like BM or rogues had with aug buffs. I'm currently being hard targeted in my raid and think there are better options than me to be targeted and our aug disagrees. So just asking a few questions around it cuz I haven't been targeted with it until this guy showed up lol. Appreciate the insights
covert blaze
is there a way to show my keybindings on my weakuara that tells me my skills
you could add a text with the keybinding
modest condor
afaik officially there are no issues with aug and fury in logs, but i wouldnt be surprised if there are
rigid stirrup
M nymue
warm crag
there's certainly better theoretical targets to buff as aug but if no one else in your raid knows how to press buttons your aug might just see the highest value in buffing you
modest condor
last patch there was some speculation going around as well about aug taking more dps than it should, and the patch broke so many things with aug hooks that i wouldnt be surprised if fury got hit
young swan
there's certainly better theoretical targets to buff as aug but if no one else i...
yeah definitely player>class in terms of buffing
warm crag
i think aug logs get really fucky in the favour of the buffed target on damage amps like smolderon but idc about looking into it more in detail
rigid stirrup
https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588
ever so minor
mild kraken
hey what is the best composition for fury warr?
I think it’s personal preference tbh
young swan
hey what is the best composition for fury warr?
what do you mean
loud locust
or in better detail, what is the most popular party as in what classes is best to be together in a dungeon
for better results
restive peak
4 meta peeps and you
rigid stirrup
depends on the week
warm crag
can just look at the highest timed keys that include a dps warrior for that no
molten relic
Critcake running ret fury Aug resto sham and dh tank
mild kraken
I like running with a ret and aug of course
rigid stirrup
my only 27 was me, ret, prot pali, monk, aug
loud locust
and im trying to get higher than 2500 rating for dungeons but usally you must have friends for that, anybody wanna make a mythic plus team?
modest condor
at 2500 your comp doesnt matter
warm crag
2.5k is like all 19s or 20s no
modest condor
you can push 3k+ with a team of 1 prot warrior and 4 fury warriors
rigid stirrup
I did not realize till first boss how bad of an idea is it to have all melee
restive peak
Anything below like 26/27 week dependant comp means nadda
covert blaze
2.5k is like all 19s or 20s no
not even
restive peak
Like some weeks that cap will be 26, some 27, but comp starts to matter a lot in upper keys
warm crag
also idk if lfging for an m+ team as a warrior in a warrior discord is too goal oriented
restive peak
xD
chilly fractal
finally a heroic brand
warm crag
gamer loot
modest condor
grats
chilly fractal
488 ilvl... almost my final form
rigid stirrup
486 without leggo 😦
sinful spoke
anyone got the tindral gold spent weakaura
loud locust
welp im making a mythic plus team if anyone wants to tag along im a fury warr and there is 4 slots open
covert blaze
welp im making a mythic plus team if anyone wants to tag along im a fury warr an...
Sir, this is a Wendy's
balmy shore
GOT TO P3 TINDRAL TODAY VERY POGGERS
loud locust
mild kraken
GOT TO P3 TINDRAL TODAY VERY POGGERS
Gz!
balmy shore
hasty path
GOT TO P3 TINDRAL TODAY VERY POGGERS
night 1 
balmy shore
only another 300 pulls until kill !
storm rune
hasty path
i miss when i was stormforged
sullen dove
1 dungeon.
covert blaze
locked in during break
sullen dove
hasty path
real
young swan
skyhold used to do fun things like make valarjar stormforged for april fools
🪞
warm crag
a terrible fate
i clicked your profile to inspect your profile picture in detail and received whiplash
sullen dove
?
mild kraken
Make a support class that buffs physical classes?
covert blaze
I just spent 40 minutes making weakauras and I dc'd
warm crag
what does it mean
sullen dove
skill issue
covert blaze
warm crag
I just spent 40 minutes making weakauras and I dc'd
like aug?
responded to the wrong one
restive peak
We're gonna gt a fckin banner spec watch
warm crag
i do not care
covert blaze
i clicked your profile to inspect your profile picture in detail and received wh...
nah, I'd win
empty grove
surprised we dont have shouts that arent support based
covert blaze
surprised we dont have shouts that arent support based
Like thunderous roar?
restive peak
Ez clap brother go get it
covert blaze
alri smolder dies today
this day for sure
warm crag
Literally see your character with mythic Brand equipped
covert blaze
actual 🔮
sullen dove
mild kraken
We're gonna gt a fckin banner spec watch
Gonna get a talent that makes fury tanking viable again lol
sullen dove
sword and board 
warm crag
<@164800371057754112> <@653287531038900236> <@102464908976730112>
Mine havent changed
young swan
honestly the real culprit of my gear being shit is this creature
young swan
not yet
warm crag
This is ur week
young swan
theres still a chance (i wont be getting either of the trinkets)
covert blaze
There's no way xan runs dungeons with those trinkets
warm crag
You clear 4 mythics and get augury
loud locust
so nobody wants to join the legendary team mythic mavricks?
covert blaze
warm crag
Then you get assigned brand
young swan
There's no way xan runs dungeons with those trinkets
they are the only trinkets ive GOTTEN
warm crag
Literally free money copa hack
mild kraken
so nobody wants to join the legendary team mythic mavricks?
5 warriors? Who’s gonna heal?
modest condor
plenty of selfhealing
covert blaze
they are the only trinkets ive GOTTEN
Literally loot spec stack for a might
young swan
ive given up at this point
loud locust
i get your point
modest condor
merektha's fang Pog
restive peak
Mythic augury surely in my vault 1st week
SURELY
Jk we arent killin this boss for 2 weeks
covert blaze
Mythic augury surely in my vault 1st week
Did you kill tindral yet
restive peak
Ye manggggg
Tues, 1st day back to raidin
Now we're like 2ish days almost into Fyrakk, P1 intermission near the end, intermission WA boss is dogwater
full stone
10 hours total of progging on mythic council on my boomie...
no kill
and im out dpsing the next closet dps by 100k most pulls...
covert blaze
Tues, 1st day back to raidin
restive peak
Well boomies do outdps everyone by 100k+ on council
covert blaze
My guild got to 4% yday, they raid again on sunday
mild kraken
#starfall
covert blaze
and im out dpsing the next closet dps by 100k most pulls...
Pressing starfall in the middle of the boss room
Riveting gameplay
full stone
number 2 dps is a destro lock doing 220k im at 320k and okay i get boomie has better up time but
oh btw
they have me doing ducks
olive wraith
Why doesn’t he switch to arms
sullen dove
they have me doing ducks
tell them to fuck off 😄
full stone
i said i can prob pull 400k if not more if im not doing ducks and they ignored me
covert blaze
really bad
Better than your trinkets 
sullen dove
ignore them
full stone
i feel my time in this group is limited lol
covert blaze
i said i can prob pull 400k if not more if im not doing ducks and they ignored ...
Find a new guild
restive peak
My guild got to 4% yday, they raid again on sunday
Dead for sure brothaaaa
full stone
bad parses :*(
restive peak
If your guild doesn't care to win, leave lol
covert blaze
Dead for sure brothaaaa
Heartbreaking
devout apex
do we want to hold avatar cast until dancing blades drops?
mild kraken
I just don’t wanna be race to world last again this tier 😦
devout apex
or just cast when odyns fury dmg drops
cosmic adder
or just cast when odyns fury dmg drops
this one (it also lines up with the titan's torment avatar expiration)
dancing blades will refresh up to 13 seconds but the odyn's dot hard overwrites
sudden tusk
how i feel about not getting the lego
sudden tusk
devout apex
i thought it was a overwrite too
sullen dove
it should pandemic no?
you can use 3 seconds later and odyns dot goes to 5 sec
but at that point you could wait another second to save 1 more sec of db
compact knot
this is my ui on mythic smolderon, is it over for me?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064304935312830474/1192687367811760259/shiftm.png?ex=65a9fbab&is=659786ab&hm=b250bd8fc7ddd109ac1860f0bc03d5b65257962668e58c674f71844d1fbf11b5&
compact knot
im 3rd on dps btw with this entire pull
sullen dove
need to keep tabs on how much dps my healers are doing
cosmic adder
desyncing avatar that long is morally criminal I refuse to go any further than I have to
compact knot
shit is gas
sullen dove
covert blaze
this is my ui on mythic smolderon, is it over for me?https://cdn.discordapp.com/...
Me doing like half an everbloom yday with the clique binding window open
covert blaze
next week for sure
sudden mango
ive seen a lot of people say I really should be near 25% haste. Im sitting at 19% right now, but every sim I run with haste as an option for runes/gems/chants, it never says I should change anything. I assume this is just a "trust the sim" moment?
sullen dove
full stone
we hit the enrage lol
restive peak
Sometimes you just gotta accept your team aint ready
full stone
8 minutes and 45 seconds in the fight
sullen dove
alr tell those dumbfucks you are NOT doing duck
covert blaze
ive seen a lot of people say I really should be near 25% haste. Im sitting at 19...
You don't "need" 25% haste. Maybe your vers/mastery/crit are still low enough that the sim still wants them more than haste. Trust robot
sudden mango
You don't "need" 25% haste. Maybe your vers/mastery/crit are still low enough th...
thank you for your service, much appreciated. In my case, Im pretty high on vers and mastery but I shall trust the robot
sullen dove
(if you like them then rescind my statement and i shall refer to them as uh... creatures)
covert blaze
8 minutes and 45 seconds in the fight
Your guild's dps must be omega cursed
dense elbow
8 minutes and 45 seconds in the fight
PuGs are blasting that fight. Think it is time for you to look for another patch of grass to 🦆
covert blaze
Funny meme from my guild on the first council reclear weeks ago
sullen dove
full stone
but i cant get a new guild lol shit parses and no one will take
tis rough
average item lvl is 484
covert blaze
I would honestly rather be looking for a guild for some time than to wipe for days to the 4th boss
dense elbow
I got into a raidteam with grey logs, you will be fine
Currently wiping on smolderon at 40%
You can join that grind, believe in yourself
past pivot
ive seen a lot of people say I really should be near 25% haste. Im sitting at 19...
There is no number you should be at. It all depends on your gear. That’s why simming is so important.
sudden mango
thank you I appreciate it! Generally I trust the robot, I just had a moment of doubt
past pivot
You can always post your top gear sim here if you have questions about it.
sullen dove
i have 33% haste
muted star
Don't trust people, not even in here. Only sims
past pivot
i have 33% haste <:critcake:984549832511344640>
And that means absolutely nothing to anyone but you.
sullen dove
exotic burrow
can we have too much mastery?
sullen dove
kinda
but only if robot says to stop adding more
chances are tho youll still have the most of it
exotic burrow
<:xan:1094127979703062558>
😭
past pivot
can we have too much mastery?
Probably more of a case that you could use others stat rather than having too much mastery.
exotic burrow
rgr
empty grove
so with the new legendary buff how do you track how many stacks one mob has
molten relic
?
covert blaze
so with the new legendary buff how do you track how many stacks one mob has
weakaura
empty grove
wago IO doesnt seem to have any weak auras for that
molten relic
It’s one stack per debuff that’s out
restive peak
P2 fyrakky 😄
empty grove
I must misunderstood the change then
sullen dove
it eats marks from up to 50 targets now
covert blaze
I thought he meant total marks I misread
modest condor
they just increased the amount of mobs that can buff the on use
sullen dove
instead of 5
empty grove
so does that mean you can have up to 50 marks 1 per mob
molten relic
It means when you use the legendary
sullen dove
will be added to the on use
empty grove
i meant
molten relic
It does 10% more damage per mark
modest condor
you can have infinite marks, just 50 of them buff on use now rather than 5
molten relic
Up to 50 so 500%
restive peak
When the fuck we ever gonna have FIFTY lol
molten relic
Instead of 50%
empty grove
right
sullen dove
4 fel dominators in brh
empty grove
so if you pull 20 mobs and and theres 20 marks
molten relic
Then you do a 200% damage on use
empty grove
instead of 20 mobs but 5 of them have the mark
modest condor
no
molten relic
No
empty grove
its now up to 50?
modest condor
before it was 20 mobs and 20 have marks
empty grove
WHY IS THIS SO CONFUSING
modest condor
but only 5 of them buff the on use
empty grove
i get it now
modest condor
it's really not confusing, if anything i'm confused why so many people seem to get it wrong
covert blaze
WHY IS THIS SO CONFUSING
idk it's really not
restive peak
It just onl;y took 5 before
empty grove
instead of 5 buff marks its now up to 50
molten relic
Yes
Before it would only buff by 50%
Now it’s up to 500
Nothing changed with the dot
Just the cap on how many can buff the active
empty grove
right so its really only useful in aoe situations
molten relic
Yes
modest condor
yes
restive peak
It always was
molten relic
And tindral
restive peak
The tindsweezy
molten relic
Can’t wait for 1mil crit on tindral tomorrow
dense elbow
So, m+ legendary enjoyers, ya happy with the buff? Doing DH level damn? 
restive peak
We will never do DH dmg lol
dense elbow
Or is it one of those, 200% on 0 is 0
molten relic
Eh
restive peak
I've beat like 2 DHs all patch in high keys, and both they faceplanted a bunch
molten relic
The last hit crits 500k
restive peak
Not a lot but like enough
molten relic
On one target
restive peak
Itll still be sick though
molten relic
So with a fat boost it can be nice
But there aren’t many situations where u start the channel and then there’s only one prio add left at the end of it
But tindral should be nice
Ww then active on roots
modest condor
on some bosses you can tag adds and then go to the other side of the boss and use the active
modest condor
activate all the dragons on third boss in dht
restive peak
^
modest condor
30 adds
covert blaze
Bring back Hivemind
dense elbow
So, it is a change that you felt, neat
modest condor
i remember one time on hivemind i had like 7 twilight dev procs in the first minute and then only 2 more for the rest of the fight
was so sad
full stone
welp we killed
molten relic
That tier was so fun
covert blaze
i remember one time on hivemind i had like 7 twilight dev procs in the first min...
Eye Beam > Iris > Fel Barrage
dense elbow
Gz Beanz, now enjoy larrerdar and nhymzie
full stone
i think its time to find a new guild still
covert blaze
I remember praying for twilight dev procs during the small adds on M Nzoth
covert blaze
And then you kill the wrong tentacle by mistake cause 2 people proc twilight dev
molten relic
restive peak
Nzoth was a blasty blast man
frank dawn
fun fact, twilight dev was the only dps corruption I got for the first 6 weeks of the patch
and I only got it one piece, not like I had it stacked or something
it was a great time, loved it, loved corruptions before the vendor
slim coral
Your boy is officially a free agent 
slim coral
cause I don't think the guild will be able to kill tindral in it's curreent form
slim coral
and at this rate we are not making hof
we are 600 pulls in with no signs of a kill
and the roster is constantly changing etc
sudden tusk
augrey up
hardy cargo
holy thats a lot of pulls
sudden tusk
cata in the sink
hardy cargo
I wish u luck in killing him with whomever u raid with next
we just started him last night I did not have fun
slim coral
holy thats a lot of pulls
yep
and with roster swaps and other roster issues we most likely won't have full roster until the 18th
I cannot justify another 600 pulls
prime summit
Believe big nerfs are happening this week for him on Tuesday
Heard through the grapevine
restive peak
Damn dude
Sorry to hear
I think a lot of guilds will break if Tindral isn't nerfed soon
prime summit
5% hp nerf and you can soak as many seeds as you can live
slim coral
I think a lot of guilds will break if Tindral isn't nerfed soon
yeah just too many roster issues
restive peak
That would ruin the fight completely
prime summit
And one less orb soak
slim coral
The only reason tindral is hard is seeds
prime summit
That’s just what I’ve heard shrugs
clever path
hallow sphinx
📉
young swan
@sudden tusk SWAP BACK TO AUGURY
sudden tusk
sullen dove
GAMING
sudden tusk
gz
odd nacelle
We killed it tonight too. Same loot, but swap the cloak for another brand
sinful spoke
gz
sinful spoke
offered someone 1.5mil for Mythic Gnarlroot wepon
thats insane
north edge
he said he didnt believe he was gonna get axe as a ret pal kekw
north edge
turns out money cant buy everything
covert blaze
@sullen dove did you get brand
sullen dove
not distributed yet
sullen dove
a dk apparently doesnt even have any brand yet
silk wharf
but its a dk
sinful spoke
why would a dk get brand