fury

[clever path]

and then the character that gets it gets deleted

until i delete my main

[glad plover]

Does anybody know what is % of people who have legendary? I just want to see am I exceptionally unlucky or everybody shares my fate, I basically see people with legendary everywhere nowdays.

[clever path]

low

there is no accurate way to measure it but you could look at m+ runs

or raid logs

[paper ivy]

boys another question, what should i craft? my waist and my head are the lowest ilvl items i got, should i just replace my allied wrisst with a mythic one from raid anc craft a waist ( double shadowflame)

https://raider.io/characters/eu/kazzak/Zelkara

or would u recraft the wrist

waist simed higher

[clever path]

iirc subcreation only looks at logs

[gilded pawn]

you can probably look at raid logs, most people log raid

[tame vigil]

Why do people play with allied wristguards when double shadowflame armor patches sims higher?

[gilded pawn]

because shadowflame doesnt have aoe

[warm crag]

go look at the ret channel they have a role system for legendaries lol

[clever path]

ye but no one is reclearing heroic at this point

and a lot of guilds privatelog

[unreal onyx]

today is a tmog kinda day @past pivot

[clever path]

on mythic

[clever path]

less aoe and less survivability

[tame vigil]

ah ok thanks

[calm ermine]

During execute phase, do we press execute under 80 rage and to maintain the stacks, or do we press on cooldown, i mean, specially with reckles we gen. a lot rage...

[unreal onyx]

(I got leggo just now)

[glad plover]

Wrist in my opinion frees you a bit of space to not go into versa items.

[tame vigil]

GZ ❤️

[paper ivy]

i crafted it the first week

[glad plover]

GZ

[unreal onyx]

@wild mural we are so back

time to grind

yes, and it bugged like I said

[wild mural]

WE ARE SO BACK

let’s go

[eternal sundial]

@unreal onyxgz now do real person damage

[unreal onyx]

i'll try

can't guarantee anything

[olive wraith]

Pink parse or you’re grounded

[unreal onyx]

does healing count?

[olive wraith]

❌

[unreal onyx]

fuk

[clever path]

which class is most similar to fury in gameplay

enh shama?

[unreal onyx]

I think I heard ret in S2

not sure how that is now

[wild mural]

I got 1 pink parse am I grounded

[clever path]

they both dont deal damage and have insane survivability

[olive wraith]

You are free

[clever path]

[olive wraith]

Bm

[mild kraken]

Just started on M Smolderon. Is there an optimal way to open to have cds for 1st intermission or just send cds on start?

[clever path]

send everything dont delay anything on pull to get them on cd

[still garnet]

Fury... CDs... Lul

[olive wraith]

?

[clever path]

then stand towards the edge and wait for hte balls to get to you

then send everything

[tame vigil]

Send CDs on start, pot when i collected ur orbs in first intermission

[mild kraken]

Roger that. Felt like I was getting my cds up towards the end of the intermission. Kinda felt like a waste

[tame vigil]

yeah but will line perfectly with 3rd together with BL

and then u have pot again in 4th executse phase together with orbs

[edgy widget]

• Use Avatar immediately after getting Enrage on pull, TR and OF shortly after (don't worry so much about dancing blades uptime)
• leap out before the knockback and bait orb spawns to the edge of the platform, don't get knocked into the lava
• pot around 1:16
• collect orbs during the 3rd position run out
• buff should last about 5s after the intermission ends, with enough time to use all cooldowns and 6 Frenzied Bloodthirst buff stacks

[mild kraken]

Thanks for the help!

[coarse nest]

The top Smold log opener is fairly similar to the normal opener just sends avatar faster than usual

[proud vessel]

What would be a decent overall number to do in a +24 AD?

[coarse nest]

If you look at Lorrgs and sort the ability’s you’ll see what I mean

[restive peak]

On smolder you just do what Archi just said, it literally could not be clearer

You do the same thing he posted every intermission, I just run to the 3rd ring then jump as he knocks, saving leap, but the leap tech is the same, possibly better (extra 2-3 GCDs)

[stoic maple]

Any guide for the optimal way to use the lego axe as fury?

[coarse nest]

Pretty much send it whenever you’re not bursting if it’s available

[mild kraken]

I was looking at Lorrgs and saw what you meant, also was watching some POVs and some did some different tech

[restive peak]

Some run out, some leap out, the general idea is the same @mild kraken

[pliant lantern]

For intermission 3 and 4 you don't need to run out much at all

[coarse nest]

Yeah for sure either way* archs write up is good info to follow

[restive peak]

You run out for CD timings Scream, not for any other reason

You want the 50% dmg buff during CDs fully, not half

[gilded pawn]

once CDs go down

[mild kraken]

Smolderon is so dead already

[edgy widget]

yeah, just Reck -> Charge -> Rampage -> Avatar -> TRoar -> Rampage -> OF

or Spear as the case may be

[pliant lantern]

Yes I know, and for intermission 3 and 4 your cds are up much earlier than for 1 and 2 so you dont need to get knocked back to the edge of the platform

[edgy widget]

I still prefer to move out about halfway for the other intermissions

but it's not as necessary, no

[glad plover]

So does anybody finds it weird that Fyr'alath is only 496 ilvl? I think big issue with why this item seems to be underwhelming especially given how much it costs, is the fact that for some reason they made it same level as Epic trinket that drops from same boss. This weak attempts to buff its effect while ignoring the fact that simply buffing its ilvl and damage per hit will probably do a lot more on specs that generally scale well with Weapon DPS(that are almost all specs that use it). Sry for longer just a want to see what you guys think.

[edgy widget]

the nice thing about doing it is that it usually gives me time to maximize execute as well as bloodbath during intermission 3

as well as buy some extra time for potion alignment

ultimately you don't lose any casts, so there's no real reason not to

[oblique trail]

Special weapons/legendaries have (almost) always been higher ilvl than normal weapons. It's standard and so was the Evoker lego

It's just fine

[edgy widget]

it is still the highest ilevel weapon in the game though

well for us, anyway

[coarse nest]

I might be insane but if I’m looking at this correctly they OF at 2 seconds Spear at 3 seconds and they don’t avatar until 6 seconds

[marble stratus]

Legos that get replaced the next season feels bad. remember when legos would last and xpack?

[proud vessel]

Question what items aside from augury and leggo could i get as upgrades for m+? Droptimizer doesnt really show any items...
This is my current top gear sim
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xrH4MAdpDcYRHZHTd2RfJ6

[marble stratus]

doesn't feel like a lego to me

[oblique trail]

We got a lego the last actual season of the expac, and get fated in s4

[glad plover]

Its not highest ilvl in the game, given that its only legendary item I think it should be at least higher then Augury

[oblique trail]

You will literally have it for the rest of the expac

[dapper goblet]

why 496 when it could have been a nice clean 500..

[wild mural]

highest ilvl wep

[edgy widget]

that's cause they're standing in world in flames, so they can buy a few extra seconds before picking up the orbs

but most players will move out for it and collect the orbs slightly earlier

[coarse nest]

For sure, I mean their opener

[eternal sundial]

can check BRH neck ig rest seems good

[edgy widget]

yes

when you use the abilities on the opener dictates when they come up during intermission

[glad plover]

I understand that, i just find it weird that Legendary is same item level as something that is categorized as Epic.

[proud vessel]

Thanks

[edgy widget]

if you delay avatar like that on the opener, picking up orbs sooner on intermission due to running out for world in flames means you're more likely to have the buff run out before consuming all your Frenzied Bloodthirst charges

so using Avatar first on the pull is better unless you're one of those players just standing in world in flames and eating the damage

[coarse nest]

Oh right, that clears it up

[edgy widget]

it's only a matter of 3-4s, but that's just enough to push some of your buff window out of alignment

[mild kraken]

So then are you still using avatar before OF in later intermissions?

[edgy widget]

Why it's good to remember that the top log is not necessarily always indicative of what everyone else should do - sometimes there's scum at work

[edgy widget]

na, OF will come up first

[mild kraken]

Gotcha

[edgy widget]

though it doesn't really matter too much which is used first, maximizing dancing blades is nice, but not as important as fitting all your bloodbaths inside the buff window

if OF is still on CD for some reason, then of course Avatar first is better

[turbid lichen]

Quick question, wich is better ?

[tame vigil]

double wafting sims higher for me

[sullen dove]

The “epic item” also isn’t like 5% dps higher than the alternative

[unreal onyx]

whatever sims better for you

[sullen dove]

And it’s only 3 very rare trinkets on the last boss of mythic that is equal ilvl

talking about them like they’re some easily attainable trinkets is kinda weirdge they’re basically legendaries too

just way less annoying

it’d b cool if it was 500 ilvl nice crisp number but whatever it’d def break from the like set in place ilvl brackets they’ve been doing the last two expansions

[still swift]

@sullen dove nub

[edgy widget]

it really varies

[sullen dove]

bub

[edgy widget]

I've even had some of the older enchants pull ahead occasionally when my stats are scuffed

like earthen whatever

[sullen dove]

frozen writ

[oblique trail]

Had writs sim ahead of 2x Wafting till last reset

[still swift]

omg

banezi??

[unreal onyx]

I use wafting + earthen

[oblique trail]

omg nina?

[sullen dove]

bonzai

[still swift]

benzai

[oblique trail]

dishswor

[edgy widget]

with the lower haste target, around 25-8%, Wafting seems to do best, but any higher appears to devalue it

[sullen dove]

[oblique trail]

Sitting at 28% with 2x Wafting simming the best, but even if Earthen was like slightly ahead I'd prob still just keep 2x Wafting simply because of the feel

[still swift]

need to counter afflicted innit

[oblique trail]

Getting 2x Wafting proc during CDs

[oblique trail]

yeah I really do wonder why I keep having -50% haste

[clever belfry]

walk rapidly

[still swift]

be happy its only 50%

[sullen dove]

ngl haste mid

dopamine only exists in seeing big number

haste doesn’t increase number size

verse does

[oblique trail]

Who in their right mind though looks at all the damage numbers when they're doing damage

That's psychotic

[sullen dove]

hitting 6 bbs like half a second faster vs each bb does 10k more dmg

[still swift]

i love dmg number on

[sullen dove]

that’s stonks

[unreal onyx]

I am looking at the numbers in smold intermission

[sullen dove]

On GOD

[unreal onyx]

at least the BBs in exe phase

[sullen dove]

1 millies

[clever belfry]

only time u look at them is dmg amp phases with bloodbath yep

[sullen dove]

up to like 1.3 sometimes

Idk I still look at opening bbs usually

[clever belfry]

(u should disable dmg numbers for better overview in reality)

[sullen dove]

see if something is horrendously wrong with gear and what I’m doing

[oblique trail]

Have had some 1.3+ mill BBs on Smolderon for memes

[young swan]

(none of us are good enough to care)

[sullen dove]

[young swan]

(if gajeel has them enabled so do i)

[sullen dove]

gajeel doesn’t even have stick

[indigo quarry]

(smort)

[sullen dove]

washed

[indigo quarry]

but my dopamine

WHERE

[runic pine]

I like my classic numbers and you can't change me

[oblique trail]

I'll have to disable nameplates on Tindral which also means turning off my damage numbers

will be rough

[unreal onyx]

make a WA that disables DMG numbers under 1mil

currently starting prog on tindral

it's such a joke imo

(in a bad way)

[oblique trail]

yeah I wonder what tindral prog is like

maybe one day

I'll see it

[errant vessel]

did you guys use roar or spear for smold prog?

[oblique trail]

I tried a few pulls of Roar for memes

[indigo quarry]

50 wipes p1 just for tanks and ranged to stop fucking up

[oblique trail]

But Spear is just better

[errant vessel]

even if you don't stand in fire?

[oblique trail]

Roar just allows more freedom of movement for less damage

[unreal onyx]

only 50?

[oblique trail]

I don't know what the difference between Roar and Spear is if you miss a global or two of Spear through the fight

[indigo quarry]

i'm at 140 and we see p2

[unreal onyx]

spear gains a lot more value in dmg amp

[errant vessel]

yeah that's the thing as well

[indigo quarry]

after the 50 for positioning and shroom you need people to stop getting beamed

[proud vessel]

Sadly not, just some wep upgrades and the obvious ST trinkets https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3uQdM2PMsB7PVjSeuD54e4

[errant vessel]

signet and augury still best combination on smold though right?

[oblique trail]

I personally just sit in the fire and tank the damage which depending on the person and raid leader isn't allowed

[clever belfry]

? just buy a better PC

• L
• UI issue

[unreal onyx]

we're on 50 and haven't seen p2

[oblique trail]

It's not fps issue idiot

[clever belfry]

whats the issue then

[indigo quarry]

old ass game engine

[oblique trail]

I don't need to see 20 vine nameplates

[indigo quarry]

shitty nameplate killing framerate

[oblique trail]

And I'm too stupid to find a script to turn them off

[hasty path]

Can’t wait to be half afk as a brewmaster for all of tindral

[clever belfry]

as i said

just buy better pc

[indigo quarry]

plater got a mod to do it

[clever belfry]

i have them on and i have okay perf on it

👍

[oblique trail]

I've had no issues on HC/Norm with up to 30 people

[fast crest]

Did you get to do fire bombs yet

[eternal sundial]

ember is good

[unreal onyx]

not yet. im team 2

[indigo quarry]

if you dont have issue with 30 its gonna be ok for mythic

[oblique trail]

Yeah I know

It's just I don't want to look at a million vine nameplates

[clever belfry]

if u have issues on treants

[indigo quarry]

people that have issue have potato computer and just going for high graphic settings

[clever belfry]

turn off logging and any sort of autolog

[indigo quarry]

[oblique trail]

When I don't need the info and it just polutes my screen

[hasty path]

I mean it’s not

[fast crest]

Same here, first night (yesterday) I maybe only got to fly up once or twice as 2nd group

[clever belfry]

vine nameplates do matter tho

[hasty path]

But ok

[clever belfry]

when one is outside a bit not dying

u have to swap to kill it

or someone WILL die

[oblique trail]

Let them die

It wont be me with my OF freeing me

[proud vessel]

Is Ember good for M+?

[hasty path]

If my watch breaks, people will die

[oblique trail]

I've also just heard that you can literally stack 3 people on top of each other

[indigo quarry]

you would be surprised at the number of people having high quality on shadow and useless stuff

[oblique trail]

Unless it's a mechanic that makes them be far out with the vine, it's just on them for being too far out when vines hit no?

[indigo quarry]

and they do the surprised pikachu face when they start having big freeze frame and shit

[hasty path]

I really wouldn’t be considering most people who run the rest of the raid but have issues on tindral aren’t running “bad settings”

[clever belfry]

sometimes people shuffle and then u just take a step back to not die

[indigo quarry]

with CD def you can stack 5 and be fine

[clever belfry]

or the dragons miss weirdly

itll happen

[hasty path]

I exclusively have stuttering frame rate on tindral and nowhere else in raid

[indigo quarry]

yes yes they do

we spend 10 minutes explaining to one of our raider

[unreal onyx]

I don't have any FPS issues on roots weirdly enough

[indigo quarry]

to stop having game quality at 10

[unreal onyx]

my quality is very low tho

in raid

[indigo quarry]

he was going for the almost 8k experience

[clever belfry]

graphics 10 does not change fps for anyone with a gpu from 2017 or newer

[edgy widget]

upgrade your toaster and play on max settings

[unreal onyx]

[clever belfry]

its almost guaranteed to be some dogshit WAs / nameplates ruining their fps

UI bloat :)

[oblique trail]

Flame Atrocity if it's my UI

[edgy widget]

that's not entirely true, but problems on tindral are largely nameplates and such, yes

[clever belfry]

50->47 fps

vs

50-5 fps

👍

[edgy widget]

draw distance, which isn't much of an issue inside raids, has a very large impact

and draw density

[indigo quarry]

https://github.com/tukui-org/ElvUI/wiki/performance-optimization-retail great guide

for removing useless stuff

[edgy widget]

first useless thing should be ElvUI

[eternal sundial]

not what the thing is about ironically

[indigo quarry]

yeah but its not only about elvui

[eternal sundial]

its just general settings thankfully

really helped me a lot for the shitty perf bosses

[edgy widget]

it's actually not a bad addon, it just has soooo much bloat

[unreal onyx]

what's the benefit of elvui compared to other UI WAs/addons

or none

[clever belfry]

thats the thing with Elvui right, it is bloated cause it can fully transform your gameplay

[eternal sundial]

what do you mean you dont want whatever this shit is

[clever belfry]

but people using elvui and then use like vuhdo on top

why.

[eternal sundial]

vuhdo users

[clever belfry]

and plater

[edgy widget]

yeah but a lot of people try to just use elvui right out of the box and then wonder why their performance is murky

[clever belfry]

vuhdo is good the settings menu is just UH

[edgy widget]

like most addons, they become much better when you customize them a little bit

DBM and BW fall into that especially

[indigo quarry]

its like Details if you update it every 0.05sec

instead of having it every 2 or 3

like why

[clever belfry]

plater fast refreshrate on tindral 💀

[edgy widget]

Use Tidyplates like a real 2008 gamer

[clever belfry]

nah.

tbf on tindral and fyrakk i used two sets of raidframes

cause augmentator

[meager gyro]

I hate to interrupt this conversation and I refuse to Google this. How much subscription is the cost in dollars to play a fury warrior max ilvl, BiS, eating all mechanics and still surviving while singing Adam lavinge , why you complicate hate darlin?

[clever belfry]

grid and elvui frames gg

[edgy widget]

unironically I've never had a problem with nameplates using tidyplates, at least not since... will of the emperor in Mogushan

but plater seems to always run into some issue or another

anecdotal sure, part of it is probably just because I have a super computer, but it's worked for me this long so I've never seen a need to change

[indigo quarry]

i'm only using base UI

i hate having to config those addons

[clever belfry]

ive not had issues with plater

[indigo quarry]

just too many option and i'm getting lost after

[clever belfry]

at all 🤷‍♂️

[modest condor]

no issues with plater here either

[edgy widget]

not saying everyone using plater has issues

only that most people who have issues seems to be using plater

[past pivot]

Turning Plater off for Smoldi-Tswift-Fry has helped fight the lag monster by a significant amount.

[clever belfry]

tbf that is biased in the way that it is the most popular nameplate addon rn

[unreal onyx]

I use plater and I don't really have issues

I have maybe 0.5s FPS drop but then it recovers fully again

[edgy widget]

yeah I said that, but as also pointed out, Plater is newer and has a lot more features which increase its weight

[clever belfry]

thats horrible and id die

[unreal onyx]

nah

[oblique trail]

If your game becomes unplayable during mechanics I'd rather just /afk

[unreal onyx]

lemme re-confirm next pull

im still sick and this tindral prog ain't helping me recovering

[indigo quarry]

freezing is the worst thing ever

[unreal onyx]

also the staying up late for leggo farm neither

[indigo quarry]

i propose that people stop complaining about having it

[edgy widget]

tindral prog sucks, but honestly they're probably some of the most fun raids my group has had

[indigo quarry]

or flexing

or w/e

[edgy widget]

for some reason we manage to keep high spirits on that fight as opposed to other walls that make people babyrage

[sudden tusk]

tendril owns as a fight

[clever belfry]

tindral is really fun yep

[indigo quarry]

Tindral is like Painsmith a cool fight to prog

[restive peak]

Tindral was a blast, esp once you start gettin to P3 consistently

[sudden tusk]

would probably help performance if they disabled every single treant doing their own individual pulsing animation

[restive peak]

Very happy we killed it before the inevitable nuke hits it

[edgy widget]

I prefer pain, only because it was less "one mistake/death = wipe"

this reminds me more of maiden of vigilance lol

[unreal onyx]

tindral is like

[sudden tusk]

wonder what the next nerf is gonna be

[unreal onyx]

1 person fucks up slightly = wipe

[sudden tusk]

soaking 2 seeds would instantly make that fight way easier

[indigo quarry]

if people stop being lazy its easier too 😄

they just need to do the mechanic

[humble plover]

Dragonriding bomb go brrrrrr

[restive peak]

I don't know how they nerf it without completely ruining it, tbh

[edgy widget]

eh, I don't think seeds is a matter of lazieness (at least in my raid)

Seeds is more a matter of people who get anxious and indecisive

[dapper goblet]

they for sure need to take tindral out back

and let fyrakk be harder

[past pivot]

People aren't voting for Anduin and Sylvannas as best combo boss fights in Wow history? Shocking!

[indigo quarry]

maybe if there is less seeds to soak

[edgy widget]

you really need to be decisive with that mechanic, there's just not enough time to think about it

[indigo quarry]

like 12

[restive peak]

Seeds got a lot easier when we just started forcing everyone with a leap/jump etc to go far, and noone soaked close til those were cleared

[edgy widget]

if you sit and second guess, you're just not gonna get there in time without a leap or something

[compact knot]

so for mythic smolderon ive been thinking 483 signet and either 489 rezans eye/489 might of the ocean, what yall think

[indigo quarry]

make sense to use mobility to get far one and walk your way back into

[hasty path]

7min patchwerk sim imo

I doubt the damage amps would swing the trinket

[edgy widget]

all three are good, ocean aligns well with the burst phase if you bait properly - 489 rezan vs 483 signet is tight, but probably (?) signet due to the length

[compact knot]

7m patchwerk has rezans like 4k higher but the amp is what im thinking about

signet is locked in 100% i just am not sure

they are probably both close to eachother idk

[chilly fractal]

489 Brand in the vault on Tuesday for sure right?

[indigo quarry]

once the fight is 4+min Signet is pulling ahead

[compact knot]

im just gonna go rezans cause ive been gemming and gearing for having a 483 signet and 489 rezans instead of the crit from might

[unreal onyx]

sims don't have the dmg amp of smoldy tho

[dapper goblet]

ideally how it should be

should have people who are quick to be pre out there

[compact knot]

wish they did cause it would make this alot easier kek

[restive peak]

Ye I legit started breaking root and just dropping uptime to run out and plant lol

What was funny was we wiped like 460 times, then the time we killed it was so fuckin clean and easy

[edgy widget]

Warriors are usually one of the "last ditch" soakers

since they have leap

you get the far out ones that others weren't able to preposition for

[dapper goblet]

feelling like they nerf it next reset

they gotta let the lesser guilds be free

[hardy bluff]

theres like 600 guilds on it

my rank 700 guild is on it and we wont kill this version before war within

[sudden tusk]

tbh i dont know if i want it nerfed

not yet at least

[dapper goblet]

they 100% need to do something

maybe not massive

but something that makes it possible for guilds

[sudden tusk]

a kill is a kill but i dont like bosses getting nerfed im progging

[dapper goblet]

get there faster 4head

[sudden tusk]

would just making the beams not 1 shot be big enough

[summer quail]

they have to nerf it, gonna kill so many guilds if not

[sudden tusk]

would make prog alot more consistant

[summer quail]

it has already killed plenty

[dapper goblet]

i think making seeds last longer is good

damage nerf again

[sudden tusk]

i mean if those guilds dayraid to the point of insanity and cant kill the boss they simply werent good enough

[dapper goblet]

probably something else minor

[young swan]

5% hp nerf would be nice

in that area anyways

[sudden tusk]

hp nerf and or making beams not insta kill you might be good

[modest condor]

feel like seed soaks needs the halondrus bomb treatment

[sudden tusk]

i feel like nerfing beams just makes prog way more consistant

[restive peak]

Beams not killing would be lame

[dapper goblet]

feel like making beams not insta kill is a bit much

needs to be some punishment

[sudden tusk]

what did they do to halondrus bombs

[restive peak]

IDK, any of these nerfs mean the fight goes from brutal to easy...they already did that to smoldy

He's like...a pinata now

[dapper goblet]

double soaking shouldnt wipe you imo

[modest condor]

changed the timer from 10 seconds to 30 seconds

[sudden tusk]

my guild died and i stopped playing slands after nathria

[modest condor]

essentially removing all difficulty from them

[restive peak]

Double soaking being insane dmg you can, in theory, heal through would be the best fix

[sudden tusk]

that boss does have a crazy amount of one shots compared to the boss before it

[restive peak]

Cuz would still kill someone likely, maybe cause a wipe, but there'd be some counterplay

[sudden tusk]

could just change it so you can immune soak maybe?

like just add damage

[modest condor]

like they could change seeds to 10 seconds and allow double soaking, it would still be a really hard boss but it would help tremendously

[sudden tusk]

not sure

[restive peak]

No cuz then you'd have like 3 people pop immunes and soak em all

Then he'd die 30s earlier too due to uptime

[edgy widget]

Yeah, Tindral could use a nerf on timings

just make all of the mechanics a little more forgiving

[sudden tusk]

the timing at the end of p2

[edgy widget]

none of the mechanics are individually hard tbh, but everything is very fast, which doesn't give people a lot of reaction time

[sudden tusk]

from the second root set to the last

is rough

[unreal onyx]

2nd roots seems to be our bane

bc we don't have the dmg to kill em all

before getting killed by beams

[sudden tusk]

you just gotta save cds

if people are popping on pull outside sub rogues they are just trolling

maybe bm hunters too

[fast crest]

We’re popping all the roots on 2nd set and just deal with treants

[sudden tusk]

tendril is a fight where just hitting your buttons on CD will be way worse

It is wild how easy the rest of the raid is in comparison though

tho we lose probably at least 20-30m a night to peoples smolderon weakauras not working

on reclear

[hasty path]

We decided to extend after 3 7/9 reclears during the holidays

Since we didn’t prog at all

[tepid scroll]

Is waiting for 10.2.5 class balance just copium?

[hasty path]

For warriors? Yes

[sudden tusk]

warrior does feel very underwhelming on tendril

[tepid scroll]

Always ends at warlock

[edgy widget]

yeah but we get to fly

so 10/10 fight

[sudden tusk]

if only that dam applied on logs

[dapper goblet]

they made it to where bumping the balls also didnt blow up the bomb

[hasty path]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-finn-poe-dameron-they-fly-now-fly-gif-25032438

[dapper goblet]

they took halondrus out back but

was deserved because you had anduin after

[hasty path]

And then Rygelon

And jailer

[fickle bluff]

(also taken out back)

[hasty path]

[sudden tusk]

i just wana put tendril in the dirt

so we can perma extend

weve only seen i think 1 cleanish p3

[unreal onyx]

tindral has to be the worst prog experience in DF for me so far

[dapper goblet]

end of p2 is the hardest part so you've at least seen that

[sudden tusk]

yeah the end of p2

[hasty path]

We are extending and tonight is our first night on tindral. We did 1 night reclears the past 2 weeks

[sudden tusk]

is wild

[dapper goblet]

at least you guys get to play a fun class on tindral

[sudden tusk]

we normally reclear in about 2 hrs then have 6 hrs on tendril rest of the week

[dapper goblet]

[sudden tusk]

blue man pog

[dapper goblet]

me hit boss

put down speed

[sudden tusk]

tho they could just nerf tendril by doing overall class buffs

[edgy widget]

we reclear in about 2 hours + another 2 on larodar or smolderon or both

[sinful spoke]

fuck larodar

[sudden tusk]

but if they nerf rogues (as is deserved) then it makes the boss harder

[hasty path]

Not me

🙂

[unreal onyx]

on larodar?

[hasty path]

Me cotank. Me afk until p3

[dapper goblet]

tank speaking

soak your shrooms bitch

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-down-volume-mute-volume-gif-14268149

[hasty path]

😦

[sudden tusk]

every time a green pops

its very distinct

[dapper goblet]

i dont know of any class that getting buffed would make tindris easier

was a little scary progging the boss and seeing bm/dh/rogue get nerfed..

[sudden tusk]

those classes are still insane

[hasty path]

DH players in shambles

[sudden tusk]

i feel like they will have to nerf tendril when rogue gets another nerf

[dapper goblet]

i'm willing to bet a gorillian dollars

[sudden tusk]

dw ret will get another 3% slap to make up the diffy

[dapper goblet]

they nerf it this week

quote me on that

[sudden tusk]

probably

after a week back in the office they are cooking up something for reset

[dapper goblet]

ret is actually really good

dont let anyone fool you

[hasty path]

Yeah the problem is the people who play Ret are really good at convincing you their class sucks

Because they all suck at it

[sudden tusk]

no thats boomkins

or apparently demo locks

[hasty path]

Boomkins are literally bird brained

But Ret players are like

Turbo bad too

[dapper goblet]

no lego either..

(we still dont have a lego)

[hasty path]

Couldn’t be me

(I have Lego)

[dapper goblet]

my 3rd alt (warrior)

will get it soonish

(i wont)

[hasty path]

My alt warrior has it so there’s hope

[sullen dove]

washed 😭

[sudden tusk]

i think every mythic boss

should drop a token

for blp

[sullen dove]

They drop lesser embers what more could you want

[sudden tusk]

i mean i get on average 1 lesser a week after 7 kills

i should get 7 lessers a week

[spiral ridge]

Nah fk that, cause I gotta sit bosses occasionally lol

[dapper goblet]

i wanna play monk on farm but i'm sure i'll be forced on the brown man..

remove raid buffs..

[sudden tusk]

the entire next expansion is just the 2 wolves inside you meme

the war within

[indigo quarry]

no raid buff = 4 rogue 1enh

2 group of that

[quiet geyser]

And like 6 augs

[dapper goblet]

dont see a problem with that..

[indigo quarry]

[sudden tusk]

i mean my guilds already running 3 rogues on tendril

its cringe

[indigo quarry]

they turbo blast

so if you got them why not

[hasty path]

And they won’t stop fucking

[sudden tusk]

becuase when balance is that out of wack it causes problems for everyone

[dapper goblet]

they just gotta go the wod route and just let other classes bring the same buff

if they wanna keep buffs

[sudden tusk]

give ele sham 5% int

give hunter 3-5% crit instead of weird 80% hp

[clever belfry]

wrath bro..

[dapper goblet]

i'm feral in wrath

i'm the main character

[sudden tusk]

old rampage

[clever belfry]

u share raid buff with fury woyer

[sudden tusk]

warriors dogshit in wrath too

[clever belfry]

or do u also get phys dmg increase or the bleed shit

i forgor

[sudden tusk]

they get 5% from leader of the pack

and magle gives the bleed increase

if i remember right

[clever belfry]

yeah okay arms gives the bleed and 4% phys

fury gives the crit

[dapper goblet]

feral mangle is 5% bleed or something

[sudden tusk]

yeah arms or rogue gives the phys i think

[dapper goblet]

if you're playin arms in icc atm you just grief for fun

[clever belfry]

ye

[sudden tusk]

in icc you go fury as rogues go comnbat

[clever belfry]

combat is the other spec with 4% phys or

[sudden tusk]

becuase combat gives the 4%

[indigo quarry]

sweating the min max in classic

i cant smh

[clever belfry]

wrath importante trooost me

[sudden tusk]

classic is 3 buttons and people still somehow fuck it up

[clever belfry]

retail is 4 buttons

and people still somehow fuck it up

[indigo quarry]

people arent top 10 guild world material

[sudden tusk]

the funny macro is nice

when double wafting plus lust is rollin

[indigo quarry]

the optimal rotation macro

[dapper goblet]

dont wanna be dramatic but...fury is awful.

[past pivot]

not really

And yes, you are being dramatic

[sudden tusk]

i miss AM playstyle

imagine teck rav every 2 root sets

juice

[dapper goblet]

am more fun

more button press

going from cdr spec to static 1min 30 spec poopy diaper ass

[sudden tusk]

also fury is very rng heavy right now too

with 20% procs on top of signit rng

tbh they should buff that talent to 25%

just like havocs immo aura

its not the same thing but would be nice

[glad sable]

@dapper goblet where’s Burger King stream

[crimson bay]

So there has to be a talent called raining blood in the slayer tree right?

[past pivot]

Hopefully not

[hasty path]

John fucking Madden

[sudden tusk]

there should be

and it should turn our bleeds into ignite

where it does aoe damage around the mob

aoe from prio

[past pivot]

Better names out there. Blood reign maybe

[sudden tusk]

its a music ref

[unreal onyx]

did you see my pings

||I told you so||

[past pivot]

no

Sorry, was actually working lol

[unreal onyx]

we are gaming now

you were a doubter

[past pivot]

Gratz

[modest condor]

grats

[past pivot]

I was two weeks ago. Slacker

[covert blaze]

Axekandi try to understand a meme challenge (impossible)

[clever belfry]

posting memes is illegal on this server

[covert blaze]

Tru

[oblique trail]

sticker of smiling cat

[clever belfry]

cute

[unreal onyx]

ty still

[iron portal]

All is good

[unreal onyx]

farming time, nothing is good

[crude ridge]

Quick question what is the ilvl of the lego axe again?

[unreal onyx]

496

[crude ridge]

ty

[unreal onyx]

that's not a cat

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[inland condor]

Guys.. Max % for the superbloom buff? (legendary questline)

[atomic nymph]

Dont think there's a cap - week 1 i hit 350%

[inland condor]

Alright

[covert blaze]

Nah, I'd :3

[wild mural]

:3

[unreal onyx]

:3

[broken pike]

Hey all. I know titans grip is the best but I wanna find a way to make a single minded fury build. Any ideas on where I can find one that might work?

[fickle bluff]

they dont exist

[broken pike]

Lol

[fickle bluff]

you take your least 2 favourite points and put them in the smf talents

[broken pike]

That's not real suprising honestly

[past pivot]

Take your TG build and subtract 10% DPS. There you go.

[broken pike]

But I figured I'd ask anyway

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ixLL9mdnUXVmLnDKZ9jh8u

wrong

well that's not smf really

[dire badge]

you’re right subtract 100% actually

[unreal onyx]

but not even full smf is "only" 6%

[dire badge]

[wild mural]

Just do more dps

[glad sable]

@fickle bluff yo Greggo

[fickle bluff]

allo

[glad sable]

@dire badge how’s Florida

[covert blaze]

How can you be homeless? Just get a house

[chilly fractal]

so my guild wants me to be pure ST for T-Swift...

[fair sundial]

Is there anyone who would recommend porcelain crab (https://www.wowhead.com/item=55237/porcelain-crab?) Got it on 489 but the procs just don't happen. Did several tests, and the earliest it procced after a pull was after 31sec and up to 1:30min without a proc. There are trinkets that regularly proc after pull, but this one? Holy shit. Overall uptime of 30% is not bad, but if its always without my cds its gg.

[gilded pawn]

That’s just luck

[past pivot]

Crab is a very good alternative for M+ if you don't have an Augury to pair with Might. You can also use Ember or Gore or Pips as well. The BIS for M+ is Might + Augury.

[fair sundial]

i dont raid, so no op trinkets for me

[wild mural]

A house with better internet hopefully

[past pivot]

Might and Crab are very good for M+ then

Or if you can get lucky from the weekly

[fair sundial]

Is it better than Rezan 483? This shines in singletarget ofc

[past pivot]

Rezan is an ST-centric trinket.

[covert blaze]

Rezan pretty bad in m+ compared to the trinkets Axekandi mentioned

[fair sundial]

its listed as bis on wowhead

[past pivot]

it's not

[covert blaze]

For st maybe

[past pivot]

Augury and Signet are BIS for ST. Might and Augury are BIS for M+

Rezan is next after Signet for ST. Or good for shorter St fights when Signet can't get stacks

So No. 3 on ST

[fair sundial]

I dont have raid trinkets 😄

[covert blaze]

You will do fine with crab or gore

[snow edge]

Ember is also decent, and more consistent if that's your preference

[fair sundial]

Ok, crab just doesn't feel powerful after a few runs. But i will stick to it.

[covert blaze]

Remember crab gives main stat

Maybe you are fixating on the uptime too much

[fair sundial]

All trinkets I have give mainstat^^

all trinkets beside might*

[covert blaze]

Yes but my point is that you feel it's inconsistent

Augury is giga bis for example but it doesn't have main stat

[edgy widget]

Augury

But generally those trinkets which give secondaries give more of them

Hell primary scaling is so low for Fury that secondary stats are often as good

[sullen dove]

“trinkets I have”

[gilded pawn]

As a general statement what makes a spec “bad” with primary stat

[ornate thorn]

[unreal onyx]

fyrakk trinket to boost ilvl

[ornate thorn]

yeah actually with brand it's just 488

[unreal onyx]

im only 487.69 without leggo

[clever path]

Need augury tbh

[sullen wagon]

bro barely need anything

[clever path]

Yeah i just need augury and signet and volc shoulders from mythic and i be done

[unreal onyx]

and a better ring

[clever path]

Yeah but minor dps increase

With my stats, archdruid at 489 socketed is only like 250 dps increase

[unreal onyx]

and crafted?

[clever path]

Yeah its slightly better

But again right now not worth the 60 crests

[edgy widget]

asically yeah, start with crafted 476 rings, upgrade to 486 after everything else is upgraded

[clever path]

so i acttually really enjoyed crits new video, i like how he showed a little insight to some personality and had fun with it and was showing where he got the sword tmog from, overall 10/10 video! he probably wont see this, but i figured id try!

[edgy widget]

or replace with 489 once you get good stats and sockets

[clever path]

Were stuck with 486 embellishments right? Theres never a situation where having full 489 is better

Feel like this is a dumb question

[unreal onyx]

sim question

[loud locust]

CRIT

[frank dawn]

I haven't seen a situation where the 3 item levels is better than the embellishments, no

[dire badge]

I live a life of yippees

[clever path]

Hopefully they up the max ilvl of crafter gear in like 10.2.7 or something

[glad sable]

Did you pet your alligator

[covert blaze]

Why

[clever path]

Why not? Helps alts and most more casual mythic guilds by a minimal amount

[covert blaze]

Full crafted is boring and invalidates mythic gear

[clever path]

At 10.2.7 does it matter anymore

Thats very late in the season

[covert blaze]

Then why do you want it

[clever path]

To help my alts lol

[covert blaze]

It doesn't matter right?

Wanting to be bis with no effort is wild to me

[clever path]

Im not bothered one way or another about it

Yeah i hear you

Good luck next week

For sure

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[covert blaze]

It was like that last season

There's a reason why they changed it

[clever path]

Yeah i know

But theres a difference in having it off the bat and then late in the season

[covert blaze]

It really doesn't help you much, it just removes gearing progression

[clever path]

This is not a hill id die on. It just helps alts

[covert blaze]

Which is fun to some people

[arctic tinsel]

Anyone know what the spellreflect wa is that sends text that you're trying to reflect and amount reflected? Only found an outdated version

https://wago.io/o0cXhDjMD

[clever path]

Gearing prog on your main happens in 10.2 and 10.2.5

[covert blaze]

Idk I don't think crafting every single slot at once and being practically full bis is fun

Vault is basically useless then

Where dopamine

[burnt stone]

hi brothers
I'm trying to enjoy a simulation after a long time, but MT APL is still not updated?
As I recall, MT APL was stopped at S2.

[wanton mirage]

I have a simple MT APL. It is at least better than current one

[covert blaze]

omg cowfarmers hiiii

[empty grove]

identicle to my setup

[gaunt moat]

i know you wanna be good but just know that nobody will read it or even see it and they'll still kick the mob

in pug

[burnt stone]

Oh can you share?
I am also using it simply by changing ST APL to MT APL, but I am curious about your APL.

[burnt stone]

Oh, it's very simple lol

[wanton mirage]

I said that. 😂

[wanton mirage]

Did it work better than yours at least? If not share me yours

[burnt stone]

If you use the existing ST APL by substituting it for MT, Rage is less than 85% and if there is no Reck buff, Execute takes priority over Ramp-BB even if there is a FB buff. I think Ramp-BB is better in practice, so I need to simulate it.
Because the AoE that occurs in most bosses ends quickly.

[wanton mirage]

I did have execute over bt in 1st version but when I test sending it down to bloodthist. It worked better. Because it favors more odyn

[burnt stone]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7HzPQvjm5yYesfxyUE2hy8
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s4G1x6uEaRTi2NSXYkMosV
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iqfVnh6NM8UYsRgVWjjB2e

I simulated a 2-minute battle with 5 targets.

Link 1 is basic APL
Link 2 changed ST APL to MT APL.
Link 3 is @wanton mirage APL

Simple is Best

[clever path]

hmmm

i have gotten quiet a few pieces that have leech on them, but same slots also have gear with speed

is speed even needed? kinda nice going fast no?

[burnt stone]

But I still don't know what the best fight style or setting is for simulating MT.

[humble plover]

Speed is the worst one, but for the meme just outrun the damage

[edgy widget]

2 minute sims are pretty worthless

only slightly better than 1m sims

[clever belfry]

Leech is definetly better than speed
but avoidance is what u really want

[wanton mirage]

Yeah it was surprising to me how simple the rotation is with that simple apl

[burnt stone]

What fight style or setting do you recommend?

[edgy widget]

depends on what you're trying to sim

• DS exists for a reason
• if you want sustained damage, you can stick with 4x5 or 5x5
• HAC is also an option for something more like Gnarlroot or Tindral (though no sim is going to accurately reflect that encounter)

but just simming your burst against one pack of mobs doesn't really tell you much

[wanton mirage]

I like Dslice for M+. I think it could be the closest to average M+ dungeon as long as you don't use simbait item like Haste embellishment pant.
I could be wrong. I am just a noob.

[edgy widget]

yeah the haste pants are kinda bait

DS could be better, ideally I'd like to lengthen out the encounters and increase the pull sizes

[burnt stone]

I'm curious about the simple answer to MT rotation.
There is no such boss this season, so what setting would be appropriate if it were a situation like The Primal Council in S1 in the past?

[edgy widget]

but it's proven to be a fairly accurate representation overall of how a M+ is approached

[sour frigate]

monster ...

[edgy widget]

Council would just be 4x5

(4 targets for 5m, or however long)

it's basically a complete sustained cleave fight

[unreal onyx]

council is 3 tho

[edgy widget]

primal from season 1? it was 4

[unreal onyx]

ohh S1

sry

yea that's 4

[edgy widget]

new council is 3, but it's not real melee cleave either tbh

[unreal onyx]

current council is the worst council fight so far

[edgy widget]

I'd treat it as a 2-target fight at best; if your group is anything like mine though, it's basically just single target lol

[unreal onyx]

yea 70% 2T 30% ST

[fast crest]

dumb question - are these the same addon:

[restive peak]

Esp now because we have so much damage, 1 of the bosses always gets overpumped and you need to go ST 1 for 40% of the fight anyway

[wanton mirage]

ST leap fight at best

[restive peak]

Worst council fight ever designed

[edgy widget]

Yeah Council is a fight that I honestly just cannot be assed to try to optimize

every time I have a good pull, I get ducked 3 times anyway 😆

[restive peak]

Right lmao

[wanton mirage]

I like this council out of 3 most though if I am not thinking about parsing only

[restive peak]

I have like...a 96 or some shit, and it was legit just lucky pull shit, fuckit

[inland flame]

If they're gonna do a council in every raid for the rest of forever I really hope they find their stride soon

[left perch]

being duck is so awful

[indigo quarry]

Quack issue

[inland flame]

Council has a couple of good ideas but still, ugh

[left perch]

Lmfao

[wanton mirage]

being duck is so awesome

[pliant lantern]

Council ruining my logs but yeah...I really cba with that fight...its horrible

[indigo quarry]

i much prefer doing mechanic and watch boss dies

[pliant lantern]

I was a duck one week cause of absences...was WAY more fun than actually trying to dps

[sudden tusk]

we juice

dont think im every gonna get ignara/or gnarl higher

[edgy widget]

!timeout @sudden tusk

braggart

[sudden tusk]

LMAO

[edgy widget]

😡

[sudden tusk]

i dont think ill every be able to improve Gnarl or igira tho

our guild has too many padders

spears /adds dont live long enough

[oblique trail]

I improved my Gnarl by simply playing

[edgy widget]

my guild is just too dog for that lmao

[atomic nymph]

Vaping ruins me on larodar, and forgetting to swap talents ruins me on Volc... I have severe brainrot

[edgy widget]

honestly though, I'm so over parsing

[oblique trail]

Sorta just pressed buttons on CD

[sudden tusk]

tendril is one of the best fuck parsing bosses of all time

[indigo quarry]

[burnt stone]

🧎‍♂️

[edgy widget]

between SL and DF externals, PI, Aug, and other bullshit

[edgy widget]

1/1 pogchamp

[indigo quarry]

on Tindral i will have no log because no public one exists

[burnt stone]

Council of Dreams I hate this so much lol

[edgy widget]

the thing dreams are made of

[tepid shore]

My guild doesn't know how to do council so my parses on council are screwed.

[indigo quarry]

its a tank fight

[tepid shore]

Yeah my tanks keep the bosses apart for a long time.

Makes me sad

[dry fable]

Question, is there a sim command to disable to active use of the Legendary Axe?

[edgy widget]

we were given the choice of "tank bosses together and kill melee because our tanks suck at pointing frontals" or "yolo it"

guess which won

[tepid shore]

Kill melee?

[wanton mirage]

You guys are monsters.

[sullen dove]

igira was like… week 3 when the other padders in my raid weren’t buffed or like fully set on what they wanted to do on the fight

can never hit 272k again

[tepid shore]

Hyuge

[edgy widget]

my best igira was after half the raid died to something dumb

just got to eat up on spear aoe for the rest of the fight lol

[indigo quarry]

Igira is a perfect fight for Fury if you dont have any padders

[tepid shore]

Yeah my igira's people keep dying.

[burnt stone]

My leader told me to attack pip
I've ignored it a lot.
I want to attack 2 targets lol

[sullen dove]

And now I just feel like there’s no point in trying without leggo

[tepid shore]

and everyone's a padder.

[indigo quarry]

[sullen dove]

Every top log they have leggo and their group is terrible

kinda the only way

[oblique trail]

Remove these lines in the APL and you can sim without using it, but simwise it's -1%~ not using it, also seen in pins

[weak vapor]

guys :/ im so confus what to take from weekly vault look.

[oblique trail]

Probably a cleaner way of doing it but basically what I did

[tepid shore]

Next week is my last week to try and get 99+100 parses, so I'll try my hardest to be up there on the top with you guys.

[tepid shore]

Unfort my council will always be bad.

[edgy widget]

that second line should have been updated to include if=!fyr'alath

[weak vapor]

This Axe is myth from Tott weapon. offhand is crafted ilvl 486

[edgy widget]

is that not present? (not at my comp to check atm)

[weak vapor]

would u take axe ?

[oblique trail]

It's not atm no, I just did a quicksim now

[sullen dove]

idk sim it at max upgrade find out

[oblique trail]

On latest

[sullen dove]

but honestly crit haste it prolly isn’t much better

if at all

[unreal onyx]

sim

[edgy widget]

ok, maybe the commit got overwritten or something, I'll fix it later tonight

[sullen dove]

and if ur not full gem almost guaranteed gem is more dps

[dry fable]

ty

[weak vapor]

this gloves also nice if change to tier set hand myth upgrade

[edgy widget]

but yeah that's a catch all line for things that aren't otherwise delineated, it should ignore fyr'alath, otherwise you run into conflict where the first line's checks are ignored

[sullen dove]

Yea gloves r ok if you don’t do mythic

like igira drops tier so if u regularly kill her every week maybe wait till your raid if you haven’t raided yet

[unreal onyx]

I mean

[sullen dove]

If not whatever can send on them

[unreal onyx]

literally sim and you get the most accurate result

[weak vapor]

yea but axe has higher ilvl 3 more than crafted offhand weapon 486

[sullen dove]

don’t need to minmax picking gems or ilvl upgrade anyway

[weak vapor]

489

[weak vapor]

then i dont know how

[sullen dove]

ya but it’s kinda objectively just worse stats, and again sim will just… show you directly the number

ok do y have simulation craft addon

[weak vapor]

i have simc addons but it shit stats haste mastery -.-

and i have 1 spark aswell no clue wat to craft honestly

[edgy widget]

whatever you're missing - rings are a good option because of the free socket

[weak vapor]

back is crafted shadowflamed and offweapon aswell was stupid craft weapon season 3

[atomic nymph]

Type /simc in game, copy the big wall of text - go to raidbots and insert it into the box

[sullen dove]

If u have the addon you can copy paste into raidbots and manually upgrade the vault weapon to 489, then select that and the one you have in offhand and see what’s better

[edgy widget]

usually it's 2x embellishments (cloak/bracer is a good choice), then rings, followed by neck or whatever other items you're having a hard time replacing

[weak vapor]

yea i know but what to choose equipment ^^,

[sullen dove]

You click the weapon you want to compare

should be in the list of items

[atomic nymph]

It should take all items from your vault - make sure you're on Top Gear section

[weak vapor]

well ring can get from DH and Neck Lariat has buff stats but either choose back with shadowflamed or other

[sullen dove]

and there’ll be a little plus symbol to change its stats/ilvl

[weak vapor]

okay thank you mate ill look into

[edgy widget]

you can get rings from dungeons yeah, but the advantage of a crafted one is the free socket - after a few weeks of (no) vault upgrades, that should cease to be a concern though

[past pivot]

and flavor packet. QoL upgrade

[edgy widget]

yeah, true

[indigo quarry]

best embellishment

[fading sky]

im currently using 2 x crafted

i mean 486 with socket and half and half vers mastery

is rather good

[edgy widget]

start with rings at 476 unless you're already done upgrading other gear

60 crests for 10 ilevels on crafted gear isn't as efficient as 15 crest for 3 ilevels on regular items

[sullen dove]

15

[burnt stone]

Will there be any changes to Warrior in the upcoming patch?
It would be nice to just change the shockwave so that you can select it right away.

[edgy widget]

yeah so for 60 crests you either get +10 ilevels on crafted or +12 ilevels on regular gear

[edgy widget]

not that one

[atomic nymph]

I mean I've done over 150 keys 19+, and i can count on one hand the socketed rings i've recieved. I'm 487 and still using 2x crafted rings

[oblique trail]

Unlikely apart from just visual updates

Wait for next expac for any noticeable changes

[edgy widget]

we really don't need to rehash the shockwave argument every day/week/month either lol

I know people don't like it, but it really is pretty free

[sullen dove]

gib shockwave as choice node with rally

[edgy widget]

lmao

[barren stone]

[burnt stone]

I'm just greedy because I want to get shock waves easily lol

[edgy widget]

shockwave choice node with double time 😆

[sullen dove]

darkest timeline

[past pivot]

Frostshockwave!

[sullen dove]

never stunning anything in any dungeon

[polar valley]

Shockwave choice with heroic leap?

[sullen dove]

it feels abhorrent to lose improved leap as it is

[indigo quarry]

make Shockwave baseline

[sullen dove]

[indigo quarry]

so many stun anyway in the game

[lucid plover]

and 3-4 sec shock wave

[indigo quarry]

full DR all day

[lucid plover]

every other aoe stun in game is better

[burnt stone]

I wish Anni could be cast in an area equal to the number of stacks of the Whirlwind buff lol

[edgy widget]

it was early on in the alpha

and it was stupidly broken

[unreal wasp]

Have any of you guys crafted the neck btw?

[oblique trail]

THE neck

[edgy widget]

not since S1

[polar valley]

lariat?

[oblique trail]

No but I'll probably craft Lariat when I don't have a dookie cloak replacement

[past pivot]

It's meh for warriors, no?

[indigo quarry]

THE neck

the one and only

[unreal wasp]

Torc passed time I mean dungeon slice said 2k dps

[oblique trail]

Lariat is good all things considered

[unreal wasp]

sorry not just THE neck lmaoo

[oblique trail]

I crafted Torc yes

[atomic nymph]

But if I'm not using the Volc neck how do i justify not having leveled my alchemy and dealing nature damage to myself

[oblique trail]

It's only really beaten by a myth track BRH neck (depending on your stats)

[modest condor]

imagine not having myth brh neck yet

[oblique trail]

I had to choose between HC Brand or Myth BRH neck

[modest condor]

just get it again

[oblique trail]

The one and only time I got 2 good items in 1 vault

[modest condor]

i got it back to back in vault

[clever path]

Couldnt be me

[edgy widget]

Imagine not getting it on the first weekly vault 🙃

[past pivot]

Imagine crafting something based on dungeon slice or something besides top gear. shiver

[oblique trail]

If I could just get it again I wouldn't have 4 sockets picked already

[edgy widget]

the one good vault I had, everything else has been sockets since lol

[clever path]

Imagine not getting myth track rezans week 1 and myth track might of the ocean week 2

[sullen dove]

heroic augury first vault

[oblique trail]

I've socketed a DHT ring and belt, and my allied wrists, and got another socket sitting in my bags rn

[fading bane]

i havnt had a good vault snice my first one

[indigo quarry]

It is time to spread my Lariat propaganda

[oblique trail]

D2 fell off the vault game

[indigo quarry]

full socket = Lariat angle

[fading bane]

i fell off on loot this tier

no legendary either

[formal ravine]

I would say i understand but i'd be lying.. I got bis week after week

[indigo quarry]

skill issue

[edgy widget]

I didn't get a M ilevel weapon until 2 weeks ago 😬

[oblique trail]

I'm using an LFR Augury

[modest condor]

the upside of not looting anything from mythic is that every vault so far has had an upgrade for me

[fading bane]

think around same

[oblique trail]

Pretty sure it doesn't get much worse

[edgy widget]

but I can't complain now because I'm basically BiS aside from trinkets/rings

[modest condor]

i still dont have one

[formal ravine]

Wait you are not swimming in gnarlroot weapons?

[edgy widget]

we've had one drop all tier lol

[formal ravine]

That shit drops more than it should

[edgy widget]

and it was 2 weeks ago

[modest condor]

we have seen a single mythic gnarlroot weapon yet

[formal ravine]

We are giving it to evokers to transmog

not even joking

[fading bane]

weve had 2-3 gnarl weps

[formal ravine]

Rng is such a "beautiful" thing lmao

[indigo quarry]

we never seen Gnarlbro weapon

[edgy widget]

ironically we had a smold weapon drop same week as gnarl, so I went from 2x 483 to 2x 489 weapons in the same week 😆

[indigo quarry]

and i have the only guild with like 7 Mythic Brand

[edgy widget]

we've gotten a few from vaults, but none dropped

[indigo quarry]

luck is stupid

[snow edge]

We've only had 1 Gnarlroot, and zero Vault weapons; it's been a weird tier

[grand condor]

When do you guys start extending tswift

[edgy widget]

most guilds don't, unless they're very close to the kill

usually start extending after Tindral

[indigo quarry]

maybe next week

we are full geared anyway

[formal ravine]

Am i lucky? 😂

[past pivot]

I got a HC Augury in the Vault so didn't mind not getting a leggy this week. Figured I use my luck for the week. Still, I've not seen 1 drop for any toon in any difficulty.

[indigo quarry]

we just do 1 last reclear not to get our lockout yoinked for 1 hour by a guy that got gkick

[formal ravine]

Then again we've had dead literally 0 augury drops in our raids

[fading bane]

we got our 2nd yday

huge

[wispy thistle]

only thing my warrior is missing are the raid trinkets and the legendary, they never drop

[indigo quarry]

dont we all ?

the lego is probably only held by still 1% of the 2h wielders

[atomic nymph]

I mean I thought I was lucky with gear, but then I encountered this guy. 489 might in bag as well

[fossil hatch]

Bro in all my Keys They hat legy dont tell me 1%

[indigo quarry]

you only saw 1%

[oblique trail]

lol a blue item

so bad

[indigo quarry]

i've seen like 3 lego wielders in my key

out of 20 in the past week

[oblique trail]

yet to see anyone with it in keys but considering I'm a warrior people are probably also very wary of inviting 2x strength users 🐀

[indigo quarry]

the higher the key the more lego % too

[unreal onyx]

bdk gamers

[atomic nymph]

I mean I ran a raid boost the other day where we were 15 boosters, 4 or 5 of which had legendary

[indigo quarry]

they are boosters

how many reroll do they run

or have