fury

[young swan]

yeah...

i like it for fury too..

[snow edge]

Again, subjective my dude

[clever path]

Its more probably like Blizzards fault due to how even now warriors don't either get stuff changed , buffed, nerfed or whatever

[sudden tusk]

yeah...

[snow edge]

You will never please everyone from a theme point of view

[sudden tusk]

p3 tendril prog...

save me xan

[olive wraith]

More avatar sound good to me

[young swan]

i cannot

[snow edge]

Someone always has their own interpretation of what 'warrior' or 'fury' theme should be

[young swan]

u must take a quest to the hardware store

[molten relic]

My warrior theme includes bloodlust

And a third weapon

For my third arm

[dense elbow]

And AoE combatress shout

[young swan]

my whole thing is that they are meant to be essentially subclasses, having a slight departure from the spec status quo should not only be accepted but welcomed imo

[edgy widget]

Well yeah, Mountain Thane doesn't fundamentally change the rotation at all - it just adds Thunder Clap/Blast, and the article does get into how Blast is not currently tuned strongly enough to give it priority over other abilities. The other topic it hits heavily on is how the tree is split between encouraging Raging Blow and Bloodthirst, but no Fury build actually uses both, though that's something the devs already said they want to address separately

Maybe there are more intrinsic changes to BDK, idk

[clever path]

When I heard that TC is going to be replacing WW - I was under impression that it will give stacks of WW for AoE or something tbf

just my brain

[edgy widget]

it does

[gilded pawn]

this is why we read!

[young swan]

its also not specifically "replacing" ww

[pallid idol]

I wish we had some form of upheaval that would be wild

[edgy widget]

yeah, rotationally replacing

[olive wraith]

More avatar more fun

[edgy widget]

I appreciate feedback - if yall don't think I did a good job covering the issues, or think I missed something, I'd like to hear about it

[olive wraith]

Screw triple storm bolt

[fallen quest]

When we see the spell effects and there’s lightning everywhere there will be a solid week when nobody will care about how much dmg it does and we’ll all just be happy

[gilded pawn]

yeah that week will be during levelling

[gilded pawn]

i think its overall good

[olive wraith]

Just play “immigrant song” on repeat

[gilded pawn]

theres just not too much to talk about

with this set

[dense elbow]

Then, blizzard detects fun, and sets lightning to be on a strict PPM value. So TC does not call down the thunder

[molten relic]

Ngl ur summary addressed it pretty well

Theme cool

Rng on rng bad

[young swan]

I thought it was as good as it could be without more to talk about, covered everything I would've wanted covered and then some including raising the issues with the layered rng and relative weakness of the tree (even if thats not a primary concern they have atm)

[olive wraith]

I just wish we had more info in general. But I assume that’s just because they haven’t given you anything else.

[molten relic]

And split focus between rb and Bt odd

[dense elbow]

Not anything obvious was missed, that is for sure.

[clever path]

this

so much this

[molten relic]

Obviously missing the buff warrior paragraph

[clever path]

this is the main gripe, but this is on blizzard

[molten relic]

But otherwise it’s a perfect 5 outta 7

And well written as always

[dense elbow]

Maybe the "should this be arms?" question, as a lot of Fury warriors don't want TC in their Fury discussion

[olive wraith]

And ya we still need that third equipable 2h

[dense elbow]

(dont forget AoE combatress)

[olive wraith]

I don’t think thunderclap is anymore arms than fury. Obv fury doesn’t it use it but I don’t see why that can’t change

[young swan]

ive seen this sentiment a lot but whats the alternative? cooking up a brand new identity? taking blademaster or glad and reworking them? giving fury colossus instead? none of those things seem like appealing solutions to me

[edgy widget]

Mountain Thane analysis
https://www.wowhead.com/news/fury-warrior-review-of-mountain-thane-hero-talents-strong-fantasy-but-rotation-337011

No shit TL;DR:

• It's a cool theme.
• It's very passive; mostly RNG Lightning Strikes and very seldom Avatar procs.
• Rotationally, TClap takes the place of WW, which is visually distinct but not a different playstyle. TBlast may get worked in occasionally, but it would need to be be extremely strong to be more than a intermittent filler.
• The defensive/utility talents are really bad.

[edgy widget]

How's that?

[olive wraith]

Doesn’t seem too far off brand for warrior in general

[molten relic]

I like thunderclap effectively replacing ww for the thematics

[graceful crow]

is there a soft cap for our haste?

[clever path]

awesome thanks

[molten relic]

But having to use it as a damage button when thunder blast procs gonna feel weird

[sullen dove]

holy

[molten relic]

Maybe it could proc to give us a stronger rampage instead idk

[dense elbow]

I dunno, they just say TC feels more arms. I guess it is from a more historical perspective, than anything. I haven't read up on their arguments for or against.

Guess they just like slayer/colussus more.

One thing is for sure tho, prot will be happy.

[olive wraith]

No caps no breakpoints

[gilded pawn]

even prot wouldnt be happy

not too much

[molten relic]

Big ass lightnight strike on rampage for damage proc instead of a buff to our ww filler would feel better idk

[gilded pawn]

the procs are weak

[olive wraith]

But that’s what people said about slam and I still don’t understand that sentiment

[edgy widget]

I don't think that's really fair criticism tbh; unlike the lore issue, TC is thematic to Warriors (even Fury), and frankly I think this is a pretty ingenious way to promote an often overlooked ability for the spec

Now, if TC somehow worked fundamentally different, then it might be a different conversation - like if TC continued to spend rage, then I'd have a much more detailed critique, but as it only replaces Whirlwind, the only real impact is visual and how much any individual player subjectively enjoys the idea of TC instead of Whirlwind (to whit, there are still a ton of people who think WW shouldn't be a ST ability)

[dense elbow]

Sure. But it is a question or problem some got.

[edgy widget]

people will always have problems, some are fair criticism, some are not

and for the reasons I outlined above, I don't consider that fair criticism worthy of serious discussion in this context

[snow edge]

It's not really a valid question or problem, and again 'themes' are subjective and everyone can't be satisfied

[fallen quest]

Thunderclap empowers rampage with lightning that chains to all nearby enemies… Fury uncapped 😮

[red yew]

[dense elbow]

Well, if it isn't PPM locked, it is kinda uncapped

[gilded pawn]

itll chain for like 10% attack power

dont worry

[red yew]

Surely they won't cap things before launch

[molten relic]

But thunderblast buffing a spell we use just to get cleave or filler

That seems less than desireable

[dense elbow]

Personally, I think Fury is still a bit on the backburner. It will likely see a touch up on how it works

[olive wraith]

Give us off gcd damage ability

[dense elbow]

For what purpose?

[snow edge]

Yeh I don't see what that achieves, other than to increase APM

[olive wraith]

Exactly

Give us more apm

[dense elbow]

Well, how about no?

[snow edge]

Well that's possibly the worst / least helpful suggestion, you've nailed it

[olive wraith]

That’s a bit extremist lol

[dense elbow]

If there is one thing I want blizz to take away from the post tho; is that the RNG on RNG is a bit much.

[edgy widget]

that's the problem I brought up - Thunder Blast sounds cool, but Fury has traditionally had a lot of problems with "high priority fillers" that aren't actually all that high priority

[wanton mirage]

Let me cook, what if TC replace Rampage as Giga Rage Spender in AOE. Rampage continue as ST Rage Spender. Will we look like pinkmen?

[dense elbow]

I can see you cookin

[olive wraith]

Another rage spender doesn’t sound bad

[molten relic]

It’d be nice if it made our next primary spender do some lightning stuff

[edgy widget]

like consider the current RB build, Thunderous Blast would need a lot of power to beat it and the value of Slaughtering Strikes, higher rage generation, etc

[sudden tusk]

i want slayer to double down

[dense elbow]

If they just bump up the numbers, TC will be 'fun' to press during the proc tho. So likely just a tuning problem

[sudden tusk]

ignite level bleed

[edgy widget]

problem is you can only bump them so much without running into other issues

for example, Thunder Blast is an AoE ability, not a ST one

so blast it up enough that it deals 2x Execute damage in ST... and suddenly it's meteoric to the point of needing a nerf in AoE

and even then, there's a point where no reasonable amount of damage matters more than certain effects like triggering Enrage or maintaining Ashen Juggernaut, etc

[dense elbow]

I would have a bigger gripe about my AoE burst being based on a proc, than anything. But I do get where you are coming from

[edgy widget]

well that's another question, is it even supposed to be "AoE burst" ? I would say not really

[dense elbow]

It is thunderclap

[still swift]

So what you do is

thunder blast deals x% more damage when only hitting 1 target

idk the numbers but add any number that makes it decent st and now you haven't changed aoe viability at all

[edgy widget]

Yeah you could do something like that

there are always solutions to everything

just a matter of how convoluted they need to be

[olive wraith]

Can slayer please up our execute damage

[dense elbow]

Well, I do presume it will, so yea

I say, before the ability themed around is hamstring and rend

[drowsy trench]

100% of nothing will still be nothing :^)

[edgy widget]

and then there's Slayer to consider - on some level, maybe it's ok if Mountain Thane is rather anemic in ST but big on MT, if that balances out Slayer being strong in ST and weaker in MT

Ofc then you have to consider the other end - if Slayer is strong in ST for Arms, then will Colossus be its MT spec? And if so, where does that leave prot with Mountain Thane and Colossus?

[wanton mirage]

Mountain Thane with Control and Colossus with DMG

[still swift]

colossus sounds like the tank of the two tbh

[olive wraith]

I would have guessed colossus would be more bleed focus

[edgy widget]

Gonna quote @lyric bluff here - it does feel kind of like Mountain Thane was built with Prot in mind and then applied to Fury. They also told us that Mountain Thane was one of the first Hero trees done, and it kinda shows - not being as transformative as others

[olive wraith]

Since they share deep wounds and use rend

[edgy widget]

so maybe we'll see that evolve in some way

[still swift]

avatar focused which is arms only real thing

wicked

[dense elbow]

Collosus is all about Shockwave.

[drowsy trench]

What about combining Shockwave and the Night fae warrior ability into 1?

[dense elbow]

If you are talking about the CC part of it, many would like it or want it

combine the damage aspects, and shockwave becomes a DPS button - instead of a stop

[still swift]

then you use it for damage and don't have stop anymore which kinda iffs

[dense elbow]

bingo

[drowsy trench]

not like we have a stop atm anyway

[edgy widget]

yeah you have two

three with shout!

[dense elbow]

We have: Inti shout, shockwave and SB

Don't most classes have 2-3?

[drowsy trench]

apologies, I meant, a well positioned one*

[edgy widget]

Shockwave is hella easy to take

[dense elbow]

^ Hear Hear

[still swift]

I come from shadow I have no idea what you mean by a stop outside of walking melee for scream

[drowsy trench]

wouldn't you prefer it if it was in the middle somewhere? :0

or just baseline honestly

[dense elbow]

baseline sounds a bit too much, having it midtier makes it too available to be a "choice". If you ask me

[modest condor]

putting it in the middle would still cost you dps to take it

[dense elbow]

Currently it is a minor DPS loss, for an AoE stop - seems fair

[drowsy trench]

I feel like that a class that lacks SO MUCH in terms of utility, should have it as a baseline choice or at least a really easy one

[clever path]

still better than being a paladin

[dense elbow]

Our utility is not Paladin level, but it is far from bad

[still swift]

don't need more utility, just need more compensation for the lack

more dammies ty

[royal oxide]

What would you want. Higher ww cleave numbers or more targets?

[dense elbow]

Just better value, honestly. If we are supposed to be the 5T leaders

[edgy widget]

believe it or not, there'd be an even bigger opportunity cost (DPS loss) from it being in the 2nd tier of the tree than where it currently is in the third

[drowsy trench]

Slapping ''more damage'' doesn't fix any of the problems with the spec atm, I'd rather they just do a massive rework like they did with most other classes in this xpac

[edgy widget]

simply because the damage oriented talents in the 2nd tier of the tree are way stronger than what we currently give up for Shockwave

[clever path]

didnt warriors get one already?

[dense elbow]

I think you underestimate the power of damage

[frank dawn]

ehhh, I don't think we need a rework.

[keen kindle]

Fury dosen't need a rework

Fury's fine. The class tree needs work

[still swift]

I'm not a seasoned warrior but the class/specs don't rly feel problematic in a rework way

[edgy widget]

Na, Wars don't need a rework, least of all Fury

Arms... maybe, there are a lot of different ways to approach its issues

[frank dawn]

Spec is pretty fun, works well, they just need to clean up our class tree

[keen kindle]

But that's an entirely different issue

[royal oxide]

Class tree needs a look at and arms needs consolidations

[edgy widget]

The biggest issue Fury has is just the BT/RB conflict... which on some level I like; I think it's really interesting that we have distinct builds (compared to Arms which has literally one build/rotation that never changes)

as long as they continue to smartly design around the BT/RB conflict, it's not really a problem though

[pallid tinsel]

got it boys

[dense elbow]

Gz Scope

[still swift]

gz

[olive wraith]

Nice great

[edgy widget]

Mountain Thane, as it's currently built, doesn't do that though - so something has to change

[olive wraith]

Grats

[pallid tinsel]

ty ty, now begins the ridiculous grind

[keen kindle]

I think we really really need to see slayer and collusus

[royal oxide]

I can't wait for their slayer/Colossus drop

[keen kindle]

Because I feel like those are gonna be a lot more appealing

[clever path]

yea slayer sounds pretty dope

[keen kindle]

If slayer is execute focused count me the fuck in

[clever path]

I am just excited to really play 2 classes next expac: warrior and dk

[keen kindle]

I'm sticking with enhance and arms

as my classes

[still swift]

I'm excited to play shadow with rework 10

[dense elbow]

SP reworked now into a healer spec. Dev comment: Fuck it, why not.

[royal oxide]

Dk got me interested with rider

Just on name alone

[edgy widget]

I agree, they probably will be more exciting

As I said before, Mountain Thane was purportedly one of the first they built, and it kinda shows - hopefully it will get some polish to bring it up to par

I still think it's a good concept/theme though, and could be refined without too much trouble

[keen kindle]

Oh yeah, p nitto

[dense elbow]

Theme is great, no question. Execution needs some tweakin' for Fury

[keen kindle]

I think all the hero talents we've seen

[dense elbow]

For prot tho - it looks quite solid and fun. More TC power, bigger SS, lightning - fun times

[keen kindle]

have all posed serious problems and need iteration and feed back

Like Lightsmith, I remeber hearing that that sounds like a headache for both prot and holy

[edgy widget]

Lightsmith is a headache for everyone

[keen kindle]

Lightsmith just should be thrown out in it's current iteration

[royal oxide]

The dk one was lack luster i think

[edgy widget]

I really don't like that it puts the burden on other players, instead of the actual Paladin - it's all the worst parts of Lightwell, and they shouldn't be repeating those mistakes again

[keen kindle]

The fact blizzard didn't learn from lightwell honestly scares me

[dense elbow]

Man, Lightwell... such a neat ability, so much work making ppl click it

[edgy widget]

Don't think it needs to be thrown out, I just don't think it needs to follow current mechanics - no real reason it can't just buff the nearest player or targeted players, or whatever

[dense elbow]

Perhaps Lightwell was just ahead of the times, now, now is the time to bring it back!

Lightwell 2.0

[keen kindle]

hard no

[still swift]

it should just be a buff instead of ground reticle

[eternal sundial]

Love rune of power

Very popular spell

[keen kindle]

This is also true. But tbh, my stance is do we REALLY need more externals in the game?

[still swift]

yes, so they can muddy the log interactions more to give an excuse as to not fix them up to work fine

[jade ocean]

fury and arms need a very massive revork for sure.

[dense elbow]

How so, Asso?

[hardy cargo]

my raid leader linked something u said in the mage discord the other day, made us all laugh lol

[drowsy trench]

Start by giving them both bloodlust

[keen kindle]

fury is fine, they just need to....not do this tier again

Arms needs work, yeah

[dense elbow]

And AoE combatress

[still swift]

there's those trinkets in the .5 patch

[drowsy trench]

Idk if you joke or not, but a SHOUT OF REZZING would be hilarious

[still swift]

just drop one of urs and u have bl

[edgy widget]

I'm not sure this fits into the same category; from my read on it, seems like a themed version of normal Pally abilities - one is simple damage and the other is an absorb shield/heal

[drowsy trench]

an AoE shout dispell would be great too

[jade ocean]

Fury with zero m+ utility is all but not fine

[keen kindle]

Issues that stem from the class tree once again

[still swift]

that's a class tree issue not spec

[edgy widget]

like what is really the difference between the pally casting Crusader Strike and dealing some damage, or casting Holy Armaments on another player and them dealing the same amount of damage?

[keen kindle]

Like, welcome to warrior in general

[eternal sundial]

Hope it was my "good take" on wanting pyroclasm back

[edgy widget]

or the Pally placing a 15% absorb shield on a tank, or using Holy Armaments on the tank for a 15% absorb shield

especially with how rotational this seems to be, I don't think I'd call them "externals"

certainly not in the same vein as PI, Ebon Might, Sac, etc

[keen kindle]

I just hope we see iterations on these. Espically Lightsmith....cuz man it all just looks like a headache

Imagine how mad you'd be as a tank if you just didn'

[dense elbow]

huh, I just recognised. I don't think PI, EM and stuff as externals, even as they are. Externals are in my head imbeded to be defencives: Like PainSupp, Bark, Sac, and so on.
Neat

[edgy widget]

I agree, and fwiw, I think we will - they did a ton of iteration on DF talent trees

[edgy widget]

just external offensive buffs instead of defensive ones, yeah

[dense elbow]

Ye, just like a 'huh, neat.' moment

[keen kindle]

I think we should take any early previews of hero talents with huge grains of salt

[edgy widget]

but Lightsmith stuff isn't the same as Aug - doesn't seem like there should be any reporting issues

[drowsy trench]

Thoughts on rage as a resourcer in general?

[dense elbow]

It works well

[edgy widget]

so if that damage and absorb/healing is attributed back to the pally, I really don't see any issue with the way Lightsmith works except the mechanics of placing it on the ground and demanding other people to play around it - that part I really don't like

I don't like things that put the burden on other players

[keen kindle]

warrior is fine with rage

[dense elbow]

I want warrior to give ppl a buff, that gives them a 4 question minigame to complete for a big buff

[keen kindle]

we don't need to just come up with a new rescource

[dense elbow]

when they solve it, I get dam

[molten relic]

All 4 answers are zug

[dense elbow]

zug zug

[keen kindle]

I think rage actually works very well for both specs, we just have economy issues.

[dense elbow]

what spec does?

[edgy widget]

let you in on a little secret: Rage, Eneragy, Focus, Runic Power, and Combo Points are all basically the same thing

some minorly different mechanics, different rates of generation, etc, but functionally... they're just different flavors of the same 0-100 bar

[keen kindle]

Okay arms does

[dense elbow]

#arms join their choir

[keen kindle]

I have

[drowsy trench]

My thing is, with so many people having ''mana'' as a resource which basically has no cost, rage feels like a downside most times when you get parried due to random boss turns or just wonky generation

[edgy widget]

only pure casters use mana as a resource anymore

[keen kindle]

Okay but like

Evrey other meele spec in the entire game basically uses another resource

[edgy widget]

The real issue here isn't the resource, it's that PvE Parry has no place in the modern game

[keen kindle]

Fucking this

[drowsy trench]

agreed, get that stuff out of my game

[dense elbow]

Parry makes ppl stand behind the boss
Now discuss

[eternal sundial]

99% of them have devolved into combo point equivalents

[keen kindle]

Also parries can be applied to all meele

[eternal sundial]

Soulshards icicles etc

[edgy widget]

the modern game has far too many positional demands that simply do not mesh with parry mechanics

[mighty wren]

or give us passives that benefit from getting parried occasionally 🤣 and watch all the melee eat frontals

[edgy widget]

smolderon is a perfect example, as you literally have to stand in front of him for about half the fight

Zskarn is another one

Jailer

Sylvanas

the list goes on

[keen kindle]

Imagine blizz added positionals for all meele

"Stand on the side of the boss or loose damage!"

[gilded pawn]

At least most don’t generate resources from melees

Or it’s very little percentage

[edgy widget]

in fact, there are far more modern bosses that you can't reliably stand behind for the majority of the fight than those in which you can

[drowsy trench]

I see a lot of people always bring up the fact of ''it removes the RPG aspect if they cut parry'' most of the people that say that, seem to be ranged/casters though :^)

[keen kindle]

This is true. Yet more reasons as to why parry shouldn't fucking exist

[edgy widget]

a lot of classes have procs and such that generate off autos or specials though

just not as much or in the same manner

[dense elbow]

The parry DPS loss is calculated in against our output, don't worry.

[drowsy trench]

imagine of the boss could randomly resist a spell if he was turned in their general direction when they cast

[edgy widget]

either way, it applies to everyone to at least some degree

[keen kindle]

I mean isn't a large part of havoc's resource gen literally autos too?

Ret is also based off of autos, assuming they run CS (most do lol)

[drowsy trench]

THE SOUND TRIGGERS ME, just hearing it happen is enough to fill up my irl rage bar

[dense elbow]

Hey, works as intended

[drowsy trench]

not to mention, imagine if you're doing council and the goat turns randomly to chuck a spear at someone behind you, then parries your CS, BYE BYE 30% damage

[molten relic]

Yeah but they have ranged autos

Means they hav more room to position

[keen kindle]

I remeber when during anduin evreyone said "it's a minor dps loss to stand infront of anduin as is required"

ANd then CS gets fucking parried and you wonna rage quit

[drowsy trench]

literally

[molten relic]

Cs shouldn’t be parryable tbh

[dense elbow]

Man, I love the salt you can mine from arms warriors

Mention parry - and look at em go

[keen kindle]

THE RAGE IS ETERNAL

[drowsy trench]

You think it's any better for fury?, bosses can parry your 500k bloodbaths atm as well :^)

[dense elbow]

Meh

I got 10 more

[keen kindle]

At least the boss can't PARRY YOUR COOLDOWN*

[molten relic]

Y’all hittin 500k?

[dense elbow]

🫂

[eternal sundial]

1.3 mil on smoldo

[molten relic]

I’m 487 ilvl w leggo

[drowsy trench]

plus, having your main CD randomly just ''not work'' isn't very triggering and doesn't belong in the game

put that shit in classic

[molten relic]

I never see that outside damage amps

Even w might active it’s only in 400s

[eternal sundial]

500k is prolly pot numbers i usually float in the mid 400s

Spell variance applies ofc

[drowsy trench]

stat trinket or random proc ones?

[sullen dove]

487 ilvl without leggo

surely next week

[molten relic]

Might of the ocean

But also I’m running might augury

[drowsy trench]

and you can't hit 500k still? :0

weird

[molten relic]

So minus 2k primary stat

Maybe in execute with pot

[sullen dove]

its only minus 800 strength

[molten relic]

X2 tho

[sullen dove]

i mean everyone runs augury if you can

[molten relic]

Tru

[sullen dove]

not commonplace to have 2 strength trinkets

[molten relic]

Idk I haven’t seen any 500s

Maybe I have in execute idkc

[sullen dove]

yea 500 def a little wild

def in execute

but not b4

[molten relic]

Usually 400s with cds up

[dense elbow]

I play with Might, I see the usual 450k-500 something, ones. Versa diff?

[molten relic]

Low 300s without

[sullen dove]

i get like 380k's ish in spear

without might

[molten relic]

I have 25% verse 62% mastery

[dense elbow]

Man, I need to play spear

[molten relic]

Oh in spear it’s prob 500

[dense elbow]

for bigger crits

[molten relic]

But that’s legit 2 boss fights

[dense elbow]

I am a roar enjoyer

[frosty patrol]

i hit 580k on dummy

[molten relic]

Isn’t dummy armor wonky tho

[frosty patrol]

but w spear

[drowsy trench]

speaking of that, is there any haste/crit cap atm?

[molten relic]

No

Just sim

I have 25:25:25:62

With pot and runes on weps

[drowsy trench]

idk, it feels like I do less damage the more gear I get

it's so whack

at least for raiding, in M+ it's fine

[dense elbow]

You dropping versa/mast prob

[drowsy trench]

am actually getting more of it

[dense elbow]

Get more, bigger numbers go burrrr

[drowsy trench]

with raid buffs I am at like 27% vers and 68% mastery

[molten relic]

I think I’m 28% verse with raid buffs

I need verse master helm

Then I’m big

Have haste mastery socketed hat

Rn

[drowsy trench]

I was simming for a torc craft and ''crit/vers'' was more damage for me than vers/mastery

idk, it's very confusing atm

[molten relic]

In ST?

[dense elbow]

What is confusing about it?

[drowsy trench]

yes

[sullen dove]

eh i mean if you have a lot of mast and low crit sure

[molten relic]

Eh without might and augury it’s possible

[drowsy trench]

I have both might and aug

485 ilvl

[dense elbow]

Aug would push crit/vers, so makes sense

[molten relic]

Can link the sim if u want

[drowsy trench]

don't have it saved, unless you mean to redo it :0

[molten relic]

I haven’t simmed for a new neck ngl, have 483 brh one and it’s good

[dense elbow]

BRH one is BiS

[molten relic]

But it’s possible my sims would want diff stats

My crafted bracers are Crit mast rn

[dense elbow]

crit/mast, not vers? interesting

[molten relic]

I haven’t simmed crit vers ngl

It’s prob higher now

[eternal sundial]

Can happen if you have other whack items ig

I have this turbo crit belt + flask so it hasnt been a thing for me

[molten relic]

Vers ench on rings is .2% upg too

[dense elbow]

Vers is so good for me, I am fighting the sims - I dont want to drop more haste for vers, I like the feel of haste

[molten relic]

But I sim vers flask

[dense elbow]

Same

[molten relic]

I think verse on bracers prob better since I’m in DR for mastery

[dense elbow]

Allied is good, always been my go to

[molten relic]

I have shadowflame w socket

Cba making allied ones

[dense elbow]

but but, crit vers, for your legendary and aug

[eternal sundial]

Dropping sockie

[drowsy trench]

I am using the regular crit/haste bracers from the raid

[dense elbow]

I got two sockets ready to go in my bags

[drowsy trench]

I simmed the vers mastery ones from M+ at 489 and they were only a 200 dps upgrade

[molten relic]

I want ember from brh

Though I broke 1m Dps on first pull of fall once I got might finally

[dense elbow]

With buffed Lego, you can!

[drowsy trench]

now imagine if you weren't 5 target capped :^)

[dense elbow]

I only want OF uncapped, and I am fine with what is

[eternal sundial]

I need to prep 3 and then im only making for fun stuff with holes (arms items)

[sullen dove]

dont say it

[molten relic]

Roar did bout 5m damage

[drowsy trench]

Cause Roar is not AoE capped

[molten relic]

I haven’t tried arms since getting leggo

[dense elbow]

51% OF baseline dam buff, plx

[sullen dove]

he said it

[molten relic]

But I wanna try that bladestorm macro with it

[sullen dove]

🥱

[molten relic]

[dense elbow]

Look into your heart

you know my words hold true

[molten relic]

It’s gonna pop on tindral

With the change to marks lmao

[sullen dove]

na actually i think i want a 52% buff

[compact knot]

i just want the lego man https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pdDwcLNf8KaPt6FwbUnPuv

[eternal sundial]

Just applying them between CDs is alr wild

[drowsy trench]

Replace spear with Maldrax banner

[molten relic]

No

[compact knot]

replace spear with condemn

[drowsy trench]

On fury?

[dense elbow]

For all

[molten relic]

Yea it does good dam compare to base when ur outside cds

[compact knot]

condemn is fun

[molten relic]

Especially if last hit crits for 500k

[drowsy trench]

execute needs to actually do damage for condemn to work

[eternal sundial]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dpkXRLeiNf9eB3KJeGGZZK

[compact knot]

damn its only 4.2%

[eternal sundial]

Idk if u have 483 offhand or 489

[compact knot]

ah

483

[eternal sundial]

I didnt check since on phone

[compact knot]

lemme fix it and ill see

[drowsy trench]

Least spear is getting a new animation so you can see the freaking ground while you stand in it

[dense elbow]

One day I will sim above 200k, one day

[sullen dove]

now its just brown dogshit instead of bright white dogshit

[dense elbow]

Brown is actually worse to see through

[compact knot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nfvNYoGJUQQtoCnLnxL6YX

[drowsy trench]

ye, just don't hope the next xpac is underground so they do a lot of earth based abilities, oh wait.....

[sullen dove]

[drowsy trench]

Stand is spear gimmick has always been one of the worst designs ever and I love how hard they are sticking to it

[eternal sundial]

Terros coloring 🥰

[edgy widget]

just like the class 🙃

can't say it isn't thematic now

[dense elbow]

Terros ground effects, brown spear, brown effects, brown

[sullen dove]

TRU

[eternal sundial]

He's a turd afterall

[compact knot]

well 3 hours of mythic smolderon tomorrow

[dense elbow]

Hf

[sullen dove]

11% tonight

surely tomorrow

[compact knot]

my favorite boss alongside nymue

nymue mythic is so much fun as fury idk why

[eternal sundial]

First reclear of the year

[drowsy trench]

Does anyone know if Nymue parries?

[molten relic]

Doubt it

[compact knot]

i dont think so

[sullen dove]

cant imagine she do

[eternal sundial]

Volc also goes hard

[sullen dove]

nymue is fun if youre on first middle add

if on later sets holding cds for 30s or 1 minute

[eternal sundial]

Council parried a LOT tho jfc

[sullen dove]

[compact knot]

volc on our first kill was fun asf

[still swift]

i was on 3rd add but we didnt get that so i just sent 1 mins on 1 mins =)

[compact knot]

since it actually felt like a race

[sullen dove]

[eternal sundial]

Nono not that part

[sullen dove]

like 3% away from killing b4 third intermission

[still swift]

unlucky

[eternal sundial]

Just the perma soak dance

That's fun

[compact knot]

i wish volc was a longer fight though

i probably would enjoy it alot more

[eternal sundial]

I hate these 4:10 killtimes my guild gets

[compact knot]

all the mechanics are fun it just dies so fast

[dense elbow]

Snek is long enough

[drowsy trench]

Idk, last 2 raids have left me pretty disappointed

[eternal sundial]

Surely after 2 weeks it dies in 3:40

[dense elbow]

Cranky, we know you cranky

dont worry

we get it

go eat some food

Home-made burger

[drowsy trench]

What bosses did you enjoy kitty person? :0

[dense elbow]

This tier, I enjoyed Igeria, Nymhe and snek

[drowsy trench]

I prefer Tind and Fyrakk myself

[compact knot]

yeah nymue does not parry

looking at logs

[drowsy trench]

first 6 though, I dislike

[compact knot]

smolderon is the best for me

[dense elbow]

You dislike snek?

[drowsy trench]

it's a nothing boss, with nothing to do on it

you just hit it till it drops

[dense elbow]

patchwork fight tho

you zug zug

[compact knot]

i like all the bosses besides larodar and council tbh

[dense elbow]

Ye, Laro and Council was... not my vibe

[compact knot]

im super autistic and stood in fire without noticing half the time lmao

[dense elbow]

Laro was alright - I just got sick of ppl dying and the ppl not clearing

[compact knot]

had to vers flask on that boss cause i actually could not use crit flask without killing myself like a clown

[molten relic]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q3JBSqRhr6xmmWv4zByaFb

[drowsy trench]

Larry sucks, cause he dashes every 20 seconds and makes you lose 10 seconds of dps when doing so :^)

[molten relic]

200 dps if i swap to crit vers bracers

[dense elbow]

Just charge after him

be a real warrior

Allied wrists is a 200 up?

not bad

not worth, but hey

[molten relic]

nah- just if I change stats on my shadowflame wrists

[compact knot]

psure double shadowflame patch performs better on ST at all ilvls i believe

[drowsy trench]

it does

[compact knot]

i had thought higher ilvls the allied wrists would start to become a bit better but it appears not

only like a 400 dps diff between the 2 though on raw st which is super small

[dense elbow]

You dont get allied value, when your team is dead

as such SF is better

[drowsy trench]

I'd rather we just use lariat again :0

[compact knot]

i dont think it would be far behind

im not sure though

[dense elbow]

Nah nah nah, I got mythic neck, it is all I got, no lariat

[unique crescent]

any eu lego quest friends

[compact knot]

atleast in m+ its prob lariat+allied

[dense elbow]

I just hope they un-nerf Sporecloak a bit

[drowsy trench]

they won't

[dense elbow]

... but I liked old sporecloak

[drowsy trench]

last tier item, they already forgot what it even does

[compact knot]

yeah and i like condemn but it will never see the light of day again

[eternal sundial]

Fuck condemn

[molten relic]

robot says verse haste gems

[drowsy trench]

make zerk rage enrage again

[compact knot]

fuck you

sorry

[molten relic]

instead of vers mastery

[compact knot]

condemn was fun though man idk

[molten relic]

[eternal sundial]

Prepatch ruined it

[compact knot]

shit better than spear and banner

[drowsy trench]

my thing with condemn is, it would just make all our dmg go from BT to Execute xD

[compact knot]

no ignoring prepatch

[drowsy trench]

I liked banner ._.

[compact knot]

i used it the entirety of shadowlands

[dense elbow]

My personal favorite was the 51% str bonus 100% uptime banner

[compact knot]

even in m+

[drowsy trench]

Banner warriors were Augvokers for Demo locks before Augvokers existed :^)

[compact knot]

i felt tanky, i felt powerful

[eternal sundial]

🤤

No op emoji smh

Opener wrong

[dense elbow]

NF was alright, but I had more fun with big numbers from banner

[compact knot]

[eternal sundial]

Not using spear in keys is demented

[compact knot]

repeat that simple rotation

[red yew]

Motal Stike

[eternal sundial]

Went very hard in aoe

[drowsy trench]

Nightfae was super fun in M+

[compact knot]

tbf i also was super dogshit in shadowlands

[eternal sundial]

Miss my spec

[red yew]

[compact knot]

it was my first wow expansion though so i couldnt have expected myself to be good

[iron portal]

You poor lad

[eternal sundial]

I wasnt good in SL but not dumb enough to condemn in keys

Still not good wcyd

[compact knot]

nah but condemn could bring arms back thoughts?

[iron portal]

[compact knot]

but try not to make it whatever the fuck prepatch was

[drowsy trench]

not how I would like it to come back, but sure

[edgy widget]

the main complaint with Condemn is that spending 55% of the encounter pressing Execute becomes kind of overbearing

[drowsy trench]

making them execute bots isn't really a good fix imo

[edgy widget]

and it would probably mess up a lot of talent balance in the class/spec trees

[drowsy trench]

They could bring back MoP slam if they wanted to start with something

[compact knot]

atp just break the game for fated, we already know something is going to be broken asf

[drowsy trench]

are they gonna up the lvl of the legendary for Fated?

[compact knot]

like warlocks

[molten relic]

I think it just becomes a drop token- pretty sure sylv bow did that

[drowsy trench]

Still shocked that they didn't let us use all the cov powers in Shadowlands fated

kinda sad really

[compact knot]

maybe if they bring back those orbs we could WW fyralath on use and get the big 500% extra damage on boss fights

the shit warlocks and boomkins would pad super hard on

[molten relic]

I cant wait to pad on tindral

with a 200% on use every platform

[red yew]

Does it meaningfully fix the spec in any way though?

[compact knot]

rage usage

thats really all i got lmao

ur still fucked inbetween

[drowsy trench]

My ideal version of arms would involve weapon swapping :0

but they will never make something like that

[red yew]

I guess ye, I'm personally more concerned over our ability to do ST and AoE without sacrificing one of them too much

[drowsy trench]

Least arms ST isn't its AoE like it is for fury :^)

[red yew]

Wish we had BS baseline or Ravager as an option again

[drowsy trench]

We might, if they go the direction of Mountain Thane

oh wait you meant for arms, nvm

[compact knot]

im more interested in slayer and shit aint even out yet

[drowsy trench]

I can give youu the info now

[compact knot]

true

[drowsy trench]

''5% extra MS and BT damage''

[compact knot]

thats better than half the talents on mountain thane already so

[drowsy trench]

''your abilities proc bleed that gives you 3 rage when it tics''

[molten relic]

attacks peed for each bleeding enemy

speed*

[drowsy trench]

I wonder what great talents will be added for SMF

I bet they will justify those 3 talent spots it takes up in the fury tree!

[compact knot]

SMF isnt even bad rn with fyrakk one hander and volc one hander

its just not as good as titans grip

[weak tartan]

in crafting the legendary do I have to buy all mats T3?

[compact knot]

so its bad

[compact knot]

no

[weak tartan]

so i buy least expensive

[compact knot]

ye

[late ivy]

how do u guys sim to know the best stats for crafted ring?

[weak tartan]

ok thanks

[drowsy trench]

idk about you, but in this game if something is doing less than another thing, it is usually not worth running

[compact knot]

ofc

[drowsy trench]

I'd just like for it TO EVER be a factor at any point, but it never is

[molten relic]

if I take a socket vault again next week yall think crafting a 486 helm for 900dps is worth?

[drowsy trench]

I'd just start crafting anything you're missing at this point

you'll replace it all eventually anyway

[molten relic]

I mean- I'm 486.7. Not really missing anything

just myth track shit

[drowsy trench]

you have enough to kill any boss at this point, so any minor dps boosts or tankyness are a welcome change anyway

[silk wharf]

Might as well craft whatever you want. Sparks stacking up

[compact knot]

what i do is check stats weights and see if any stats stand out, if noting does you just have to do it by hand probably, go to gear compare and duplicate the item abunch with all different stats

dont use stat weights as a bible though, it can change alot crafting a item and equipping said item

[late ivy]

Alright thanks!

[compact knot]

for example say haste/mastery/vers are all super close to eachother on the stat weights, and you craft a haste/mastery item, it could say mastery/vers is better instead when you go and resim it, so gear compare them if they are within 1 point of dps probably

someone correct me if im wrong but i think thats how it works

[young swan]

correct

[compact knot]

thanks

[clever path]

someone said that it feels good to outdps a dh

i confrim

it does feel nice

[eternal sundial]

1 pull xd?

[compact knot]

4 people..?

[spiral night]

i too can out ds a 460 dh

[patent sinew]

Illimited Diamonds can be 100% craft for R3 right...? got some JC trying to tell me he can't gauruntee R3... must mean he's not maxed right? =/

[silk wharf]

Correct, with the correct spec points and a thinger that I cant remember the name of (gives 30 skill) it can be 100%.

[patent sinew]

kewl thanks ❤️ thought as much

[wanton mirage]

Do you guys always sim 5 min? Lets say if someone is focusing for average 6min-prog boss, should he sim 6 mins?

[elder vessel]

That font

Is fucking wild

[weak tartan]

LF INSCRIPTION CRAFTER [Lydiara's Binding Rune] SILVERMOON

HELP ME

what is inscription even. never heared of this word

[clever path]

4 man 20 yea

[willow cradle]

Depending on bosses and if it's early enough in a tier that we have a hard DPS check otherwise I don't bother

[teal sable]

Augury + Signet or Augury + Might for keys?!

Tide sims more in Dungeon Slice but I'm not sure

[molten relic]

Wut

Is this for the leggo?

U use the quest item on anyone with inscription skill, even yourself and then they can craft it

I just abandoned my profs and crafted all the parts myself

[desert cloud]

Does WW apply lego stacks ?

[eternal sundial]

Yes

Even charge does

Turbo free to get them applied

[desert cloud]

So i just wait for mobs to stack press ww then do the on use ?

[eternal sundial]

You play CDs everything has thing on it and then u press it iirc idk

[tidal heron]

signet can be very hard to consistently keep on high stacks in dungeons, when you can, it's very good, if not, it kinda sucks

[elder vessel]

Signet good on tyr weeks for bosses tho

I also don’t have augury so I simply cry

[tidal heron]

Ideally still when you can start bosses on 15 stacks already, but yeah, it's better on tyr than on fort for sure

[elder vessel]

Surely this week I get my heroic aug

[tidal heron]

Sure!

[elder vessel]

Maybe I need to start doing normal

For chance

What ilvl is augury on normal

483?

[tidal heron]

think so yeah

[elder vessel]

Hmmmm might have to do that

[tidal heron]

my mage has it at 473 and it's 3/6 hero (normal), so yeah, 483

[fading sky]

Do you guys Member

when

rally was 20% and we got taken just for it

😭

[runic pine]

Rally cringe, delete rally

[fading sky]

kek it was our 1 raid utility that made us valuable to 2 stack

[summer quail]

Was more than that in SL

[fading sky]

i was about to say mutou

😄 as ARMS i miss SL in gen

was good times

as an expansion i dont rly miss it 😄

[runic pine]

Delete rally

[fading sky]

why?

[runic pine]

I’d settle for taking it off the gcd

[runic pine]

Just bring inspiring presence back

I’d rather have a flat leech passive buff than rally

[fading sky]

or hmm give it the aug treatment mby?

10% in raid 20% in dungeon ?

i know its not valuable in dungeon either for higher keys but somethign

[runic pine]

It’s not valuable in dungeon because Aug brings it

And they bring it more often than we do

[fading sky]

well we bring absolute god tier dps

wait.... we dont either

[spiral lodge]

guys, if I get Crushing Force, I need to use Slam on cd or continue using just as a filler?

[fading sky]

ehm WHEN I get leggo i bring god tier dps in dungeons

[eternal sundial]

Surely

[fading sky]

no wait ....

😄

[runic pine]

You say that buuutttt we’re actually cracked on the boss(es) that matter

[fading sky]

i mean in raid. fury is quite good ye

dno how good on smoldy

i mean nothing vs rogues

[runic pine]

Good

Def top 10 on smold

I think we actually crack top 5 on it

But we’re up with enhance on the fight

And we’re very good on fyrakk

[fading sky]

and Tswift our profile isnt bad either

[runic pine]

Swift is cringe

[fading sky]

thats true. i mean u can take other classes that prob are a bit better at it, but having a fury deffo isnt a downside

well i wouldnt know, im bench on smoldy atm

[pliant lantern]

Fury is good on Smold, you just have to play the fight very specifically and your damage is going to suck in the first 50%.

The second 50% we catch back up

[fading sky]

ye im only benched coz i missed their prog, due to a back surgery, so nothing on the spec btw

my main issue is prob i wanna play arms :D, and that is not a go

[runic pine]

I mean you could

[fading sky]

im a way better arms player in gen than fury.

but even then i perform better in fury atm

coz tuning is pretty far apart, and fury is very easy to at least play well

[runic pine]

FWIW you playing arms won’t be a make it or break it for prog

[fading sky]

i mean... my raid grp in gen lacks fast burst cleave

[runic pine]

But I get wanting to play whatever is optimal even if you don’t want to

[fading sky]

and we arent that good, so "carrying" me as arms just coz i want it

doesnt seem quite fair

unless arms had way better dmg, or execute Really mattered on bosses

i mean fyrakk mayybe, if we cant kill golems, but it seems like they are tuned to be pretty killable within time

[pliant lantern]

Execute matters on Fyrakk, but the thing is, its another add fight where add contral and damage is super important

And Arms doesn't do well in that phase

[fading sky]

exactly

[pliant lantern]

Not an issue if you have a group comp that is able to handle the adds

[fading sky]

i mean i still think bladestorm shoulda been kept baseline

it is what made arms good in like SL

[pliant lantern]

But if not, the burst and add cleave from Fury is just flat out required

[fading sky]

having it for shit like that

[mighty wren]

Zug zug whirlwind smash is my 2nd favorite part of fyrakl

[runic pine]

My favorite part of fyrakk is this

[pliant lantern]

Arms and Fury this whole expansion have been so closely tuned it just comes down to fight design which spec is better, and they have pretty unanimously favoured Fury this go around

Either because of the "free" cleave it has access to or its 1:30m burst profile

[fading sky]

that is not quite true, like arms has always had the better ST

atm it doesnt even have that

i mean on sarkareth i played arms our other warrior fury

we then had enough of both worlds

so more st from me esp last phase when we struggeled a bit

well who cares fury is fun to play

[fading sky]

ah a fellow ember enjoyer 😄

[summer quail]

Arms was significantly ahead in vault after 10.0.5

[pliant lantern]

We did something similar on Nelth, I played Fury and killed the adds in last phase, other warrior played Arms and just pumped boss

[fading sky]

ah we actually did same i think

[pliant lantern]

Yes, the problem being though that the .5 patch happened at a point where most guilds were getting to Dathia and beyond...fights that just straight up favoured Fury. So even if Arms was "stronger" you still ended up playing Fury because its what was demanded by the encounter

At least on prog

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[wild mural]

Next week for sure

Can’t wait to do Fyrakk and not get augury

[sweet vault]

oh yea, seeing all the embers every week with no legendary

man, what a THRILL

[wild mural]

Augury > legendary

[sweet vault]

why not both

[wild mural]

Cause I’ve already got legendary

[fair oasis]

Are Sims overvaluing fyralath? 5min ST and I'm well geared 486 ilvl, it's telling me fyralath would give me 11.9k single target. It really that much?

[wild mural]

Don’t care about that

[wild mural]

That’s about right

It’s about 5% gain on ST

[sweet vault]

but what about people who dont have their legendary then huh

[wild mural]

Skill issue

[sweet vault]

REAL

[mighty wren]

Im pretty sure with the rate its getting buffed/fixed, it'll do like 90% of my dps by the time i get the drop.

[wild mural]

Soonge 489

Fury clear

[clever path]

arms was good on raz tho

p3

exe phase

[chrome plover]

wtf

[red yew]

Cracked thigh high gamer

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/chic-back-pain-gif-1924062092734607761

Fury is not as bad as i thought it would be

[sweet vault]

hot damn

[clever path]

@wild mural Boost me

[tribal seal]

Rezan's or Procelain Crab in m+?

[fading sky]

crab

if overall

[wild mural]

Yes how did this fury of all fury’s end up being clear

[fading sky]

if u want just more boss dmg rezans

[chrome plover]

meanwhile im not raiding anymore

have no legendary

barely log in

[wild mural]

WHAT

Game not worth playing without Chawie

[chrome plover]

😔 taylor swift killed the guild

(not really just a bunch of people didnt wanna play for a while now)

[wild mural]

Can’t wait for my guild to be killed by Taylor

Surely we kill Smolderon on Sunday

[clever path]

Imagine mythic raiding

[chrome plover]

last 2 bosses are so fun too

or at least, tswift is and fyrakk looks fun

[chrome plover]

surely

[wild mural]

Surely

I’m never gonna get loot again from my guild so

[clever path]

@roidstack Where u at, I miss u

[spiral lodge]

anyone have idea why details show bloodthirst and thunderous roar very different than warcraftlogs?

[chrome plover]

log combines the roar dot and initial damage

if u click that lil dropdown you can see both

[gleaming crag]

Yeah mythic raiding is just a waste of time.

[chrome plover]

odd take

[clever path]

very odd take

[spiral lodge]

ty

[wild mural]

L take

Worse than a Syi take

[chrome plover]

actually an achievement to have a worse-than-Syi take

[wild mural]

[sudden tusk]

i remain chaged for another week

[clever path]

Syi, why is your PP now my little pony, man I respected you but you went and done this? How can I respect angyuwu now

[wild mural]

It’s not my little pony

It’s loona from helluva boss

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/loona-ugh-gif-27690393

[wild mural]

And that’s your mistake for respecting me in the first place

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/just-a-phase-hair-flip-emo-goth-high-school-gif-25943663

[wild mural]

Major L

[clever path]

I'd still beat you in a duel

[wild mural]

Sure you would

[clever path]

By my count it's 2 Belt 0 Syi

[sudden tusk]

but how many xeos points do you have

[wild mural]

I’ve got the axe

[fiery harbor]

man this reset sucked. vault items were completely terrible, 4xmythic box gave a downgrade, augery didnt drop in either difficulty, no orange stick again, no tusks drop, no weekly raid mounts dropped,

[sudden tusk]

i dont

[fiery harbor]

wake me up next wednesday

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-of-here-gif-24981088

[wild mural]

Wake me up when September ends

[fiery harbor]

so much for a start of a new year

ive got good karma too pepehands

this is the worst timeline

[clever path]

The new legendary?

[wild mural]

Yes

[clever path]

I'm 467 came back to wow on saturday, Still clap you

[wild mural]

I’m stacked

[fiery harbor]

as a warrior the only thing youre clapping is the "sign up" button on the dungeon finder

[summer quail]

noob no myth track shoulders

[wild mural]

It’s joever

[clever path]

Only cause people do not understand that I am a god and Albanias #1 Fury/Prot warrior

[weak vapor]

btw when use cds Legendery axe while avatar or first pull?.

before burst

[summer quail]

pins

[wild mural]

When you don’t have CDs up

[weak vapor]

ah ok

but avatar increase dmg on legendary ya?

[fiery harbor]

anyone else irked that they could have just rounded up axe ilvl to 500

[wild mural]

No

[fiery harbor]

just to make it aesthetic

[weak vapor]

oh thats troll, thank you >D

[wild mural]

You literally use it when you’ve got nothing up

Just make sure u have enough rage to ramp after to get enrage back

[clever path]

Legendary axe is like the rashcock polearm?

[jolly mist]

yo does any1 that has done the quets know if i can just buy some gear from ah to destroy?

[weak vapor]

but sometime im not sure im wrong or simc not full correctly .

I simc single target cause im in raid. what to equip. so it tells me 232k then i goes in first pull does almost 300k then down to 200k. i dont know why my dps not stay 232k as Simc said?

[covert blaze]

[weak vapor]

u understand i mean?, my english sux xd

[chrome plover]

it's often hard to do sim dps in real raid situations due to mechanics/uptime/other circumstances

also you have burst in your cds so on pull your dps will be a lot higher, and then it will even out

[sweet vault]

only 488? Why not 489?

[chrome plover]

sim is a guideline for what is possible to do, and a tool to help decide what gear/talents/other decisions you need to make

[errant vessel]

you have myth track might as well

this is actually unfair

[wild mural]

Cause I’m shit

[wild mural]

My Rezans is still champ track

[frosty heron]

it's hard to squeeze the on use but you will generally find that opening to use to . for fyrakk i use it after the aoe ability on p1 , use at the beginning of p2 so you have use it on second set of adds . and on p3 when he cast apoc so you dont get pushed back .

[sweet vault]

Git gud scrub

[wild mural]

You can’t tell me what to do

[sweet vault]

You're right, but still going to tell you that

[errant vessel]

where fury main

are you an agent of the maw

[sweet vault]

what in the world is that

wrong fucking reply

[sweet vault]

I was, but then I grew bored because well, I miss season 2 tier set

I dont fuck with this tier set

[errant vessel]

I'm mixed about it

but I'm doing better on this tier set on avg

parse-wise

[sweet vault]

In anyworld where I have to take slam to make my tier set work, Its a shitty tier set in my eyes

and annihlator

fuck that

[sweet vault]

Not for me

I still see the

animtation of slam

[errant vessel]

ye I get it

[sweet vault]

Annihilator + Slam is is fucking awful

I miss my spinny boy and shank

ravager and obliterate

only reason I'm Leveling warrior is because Prot Warrior for dungeons when I get on a M+ push group

I do miss playing Fury, but the tier set reminds me every time

[weak vapor]

YEAH, that what i was thinking :).. some one are just litterly do 250k or 300 single target in raid.

[frosty heron]

just on fyrakk p2 . target the golem for the on use ability . cause if you target the smaller adds . they die fast so you might not get the final blow of fyr'alath which does the most of the damage

[jolly mist]

wait but how long does it take to get all of these superbloom items for lego

[eternal sundial]

I got a 99 on the boss but forgor when i used the lego

[jolly mist]

holy shit

[eternal sundial]

Took me uh 8?

Had 2 not hit purple

[wild mural]

Yeah took me about the same

I’m just working on getting 2.5k on every class atm

Nearly got my 2nd

[frosty heron]

same thing until i check the logs of other people on fyrakk

[eternal sundial]

I mean my log is public have a go idk

I think i only got 1 use on adds tho

[frosty heron]

me too . cause the first add is roar avatar and second is fyr'alath . after the adds we BL before p3 so i have avatar again

[eternal sundial]

Bl before P3 huh

[frosty heron]

yea we lust when he lands down after the 2nd set of adds . and the time in between that is enough for a full duration of lust

[chrome plover]

disgusting alt enjoyer

[fossil hatch]

created for legy cope

[fading sky]

LEL

should be

Greater(m)ember

[jolly mist]

why can i not find any rares

😭

[wild mural]

I have nothing better to do

It’s going well

[chrome plover]

poor karen

[eternal sundial]

Seems scuffed idk

I get lust in execute so im happy

[wild mural]

Karen gonna be huge

Just wait till she gets the leggo on the first try

[dusk matrix]

If you dont get legendary doing Heroic is it worth going and doing norm/lfr? or is it just gg this week?

[wild mural]

Gg for the week

[errant vessel]

nope gg this week

[dusk matrix]

kms irl

[errant vessel]

whoa

in minecraft you mean

[dusk matrix]

yes

[errant vessel]

how does one get stormforged btw

[gritty fox]

create a storm

[errant vessel]

and get forged in it?

[oblique trail]

Be active and helpful

Eventually you might get piss colour

[tardy lark]

Pee is cool

[wild mural]

Don’t spread misinformation

(Hard)

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-misinformation-toji-no-miko-kaoru-mashiko-gif-24078541

[wet notch]

DWARF POWAH!

[clever path]

You need to sub to critcakes OF

[fading sky]

well that is why i do normal then HC... i know its the same odds. but it 100% feels like i get 2 chances 😄

[wild mural]

Aagard is an anime girl irl

[red yew]

True

[fading sky]

and at this point its about feels

[red yew]

Real

[clever path]

Are all warriors weebs?

[red yew]

Yup.

[wild mural]

No

[red yew]

(Except me)

[clever path]

I must be the only non weeb

[wild mural]

I’m not a weeb

[wild mural]

Yeah I’m a furry that’s different

[clever belfry]

its worse

somehow

[red yew]

Weeb furry tbh

[wild mural]

Real

[oblique trail]

Anda is a scalie

Worst of the worst

[red yew]

Double negative = positive

[wild mural]

No I’ve never watched anime

[clever path]

Only Anime I have watched was Ed Edd and Eddy

[gritty fox]

crazy to say that's an anime

[red yew]

Ed edd and eddy kinda mid compared to Friends tbh

Seinfeld also goated anime

[oblique trail]

Take that back

[red yew]

Ok make me

[gritty fox]

Seinfeld goated but like no

[oblique trail]

I will delete elden ring from your pc remotely

[clever path]

Real people watch Firefly

[red yew]

Wow ok you took it too far ngl

[clever path]

Elden ring is mid

[red yew]

L take

[clever path]

Starfield > Elden ring

[red yew]

REAL

Starfield so good it couldn't win GOTY because it'd be too unfair comparing it to mediocre indie games like BG3

[clever path]

Exactly, People cannot handle the fact you need to play 8 NG+ to truly experience Starfield

[tardy lark]

Yes, my avatar is definitely not me

[wild mural]

Guys use anime girls as their pictures, and anime girls use guys as their pictures

It makes sense

[jolly mist]

bro where are all the fkin rares

i cant find any