#fury

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open prairie
clever path
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an ole legend :/

formal ravine
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I just realized i am sitting at almost 10% leech so i am a fake dh i guess

open prairie
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older boomer men trying to rp as arthas

inland condor
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Hey Pumpers! - I just got two lesser bad luck protection from mythic difficulti. Is there still a chance to optain a lesser from HC? or can i just go kill Fyrakk already?

oblique trail
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You can still get lesser from hc

frigid spear
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j'aurai besoin d'un war fury qui pve hl pour plus de question merci

inland condor
formal ravine
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So there's i guess 2 views on the chances for leggo

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Doing normal fyrakk will give you an essence so in the long run is better

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But i think doing heroic accumulates lower difficulties so you're splitting yours by doing normal first?

oblique trail
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It doesn't matter if you do lfr norm hc

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or just hc

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it's the same

formal ravine
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Yeah but what i mean is

open prairie
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i need to check how much crit phial actually does to you

formal ravine
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If you do normal first you are guaranteed a fragment for increased chance

snow edge
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The blue post states that higher difficulties account for the lower difficulty chance; but each to their own, you can run lower difficulties first if it makes you feel luckier

clever path
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i see why youre angry sometimes now banezi rofl

formal ravine
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So technically doing normal first will in the long run do you better

past pivot
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no

inland condor
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nah

oblique trail
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it technically doesnt matter

snow edge
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No

oblique trail
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at all

restive peak
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The BLP applies for the following week, not the week of

snow edge
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The blue post literally states that is not how it works; so unless they're wrong / flat out lying, it's not an increase

formal ravine
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"lying" bro i don't know i got mine week 1 it was available

restive peak
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And if you got a greater from heroic it's capped pre mythic, so doing normal doesn't help

formal ravine
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hence hwy i am asking

snow edge
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What on earth does the week you get it have anything to do with that though

formal ravine
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I am trying to cofnrim how it works

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Cus our retri has been doing normal every week first

spiral orbit
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im just gonna trust when they say theres no way to game it in any way and simply clearing once on as high difficulty as you can and killing heroic and mythic bosses in any order will help. theres nothing else we can do

formal ravine
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Claiming it accumulates

oblique trail
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Kill HC and get your chance for HC, Norm and LFR

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It's the same as doing LFR, Norm and HC ascending

formal ravine
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Yes but you miss out on fragments no?

snow edge
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You can either read the blue post and believe it, or ignore what they're saying and determine your own view

restive peak
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Your ret lacks reading comprehension

oblique trail
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You can kill him on HC and get a BLP token for HC and also loot the Legendary

formal ravine
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@snow edge chill out bro i am asking something different

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This is about the fragments of fyralath

oblique trail
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Which basically means it's equivalent to rolling all the attempts at once

formal ravine
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So basically if you do normal isn't fyrak gonna drop 1 100%?

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And then heroic another 100%?

restive peak
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The BLP applies to the following week

clever path
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doing normal for embers and then jumping into heroic for lesser and the greater is just a waste of time

formal ravine
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So technically you get more accumulation?

clever path
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just do the highest difficulty you can

oblique trail
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Again

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It doesn't matter which order you do it in

snow edge
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I'm chill, you're just not reading our answers

oblique trail
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You don't get a better chance by doing it in an ascending order

formal ravine
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So it applis to the embers too?

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applies*

oblique trail
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You don't miss out on increased BLP

restive peak
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The ember applies to the FOLLOWING week

formal ravine
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YES

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But won't youy get 2 of them is what i am asking

restive peak
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And the heroic ember is equivalent to all normal+heroic 1s

past pivot
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The embers probably mean dick. The blp might be applied on the kill.

restive peak
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No

formal ravine
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@restive peak that one was the part i was trying to understand

restive peak
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The normal 1 has an amount, and the heroic 1 has the equiv of the normal+HC 1

formal ravine
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Yeah so it applies to the embers too

restive peak
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So just doing HC = max, unless you also do mythic

formal ravine
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not just the legoo chance itself

restive peak
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Yes

fast mural
restive peak
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Applies to everything

formal ravine
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COol that's all

oblique trail
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How did it take so many repeats

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To get to the same answer

snow edge
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I don't know dude

formal ravine
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Cus i was refering to the embers

snow edge
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I tried

oblique trail
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Man I hate the lego

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Wish we don't get another one

frigid spear
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Cherche war fury hl pve pour plusieur question svp si vous voulez m'aider whisp moi

fast mural
oblique trail
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As long as it's just a boss drop idc

formal ravine
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Like i said i had no reason to "study" it , our retri has been trying every week on both so i have no idea how the loot works

noble elm
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Dem buffs

restive peak
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I mean it's barely a leggo, it should've just been a fuckin drop

oblique trail
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This system is obviously too convoluted because people keep asking about it or tinfoiling

snow edge
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It's not the lego itself, just the method of obtaining it tbh; just make it a fixed drop with a questline over X weeks

oblique trail
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When we were told how it works

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The moment it was made available

fast mural
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they are only tinfoiling cause blizzard doesnt want to tell us details

oblique trail
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They literally just said go kill on highest possible difficulty

restive peak
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Blizz told us the details

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Like in plain english

formal ravine
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And i admit i've not read a blue post cus i've had no reason to

oblique trail
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There's not more for you to understand lol

clever path
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just let us buy the lego

restive peak
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If you can't understand from the blue post, that's on you; we've also explained it like 15x, so you could just scroll up.

silk wharf
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The quest is a doozy. it should just be a quest everyone gets to which a part drops from Fyrakk

snow edge
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RMT lego

fast mural
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you already have to pay 200k

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at least

clever path
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people pay for fyrakk kills anyway, same thing

fast mural
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good thing the crafting mats dropped

past pivot
snow edge
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$25 and the lego is yours

fast mural
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before you would spend 600k

formal ravine
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I mean people were trying to stock on some mats

clever path
formal ravine
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Like the cobraskin

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I saw people buying it for 70k

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And it dropped to 4k

snow edge
oblique trail
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Yeah and those who bought when prices were being omega hiked

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Are just stupid

formal ravine
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Yeh

silk wharf
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To be fair, when the mats list dropped there were less than 400 cobra skins o nthe ah

formal ravine
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Had a person saying it will go higher when more people get it

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And cobraskin went from 500 units in the AH to 3000 units

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and dropped to 4k

oblique trail
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Markets stabilise

clever path
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on my server, mats for it were like 700k gold when it first dropped

oblique trail
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Simple supply and demand

open prairie
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or you can buy before the raid dropped

formal ravine
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I made it for 350k

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And that was early on

clever path
formal ravine
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I think there was a post on wowhead

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For the initial questline

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Like the first part

fast mural
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btw there are more mats you need for some other quests which are not crafting quests

silk wharf
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we didnt know the mats until Meeres opened the quest.

formal ravine
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Or was it after merees got it ?

open prairie
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buy excess

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overcharge other suckers for theirs

formal ravine
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At least it looks good

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So i will pretend it was gold for a transmog in the future

fast mural
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you think so ?

formal ravine
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I kinda like it yeah

fast mural
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i hate how it looks

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its so small

atomic nymph
fast mural
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cause even without leggo procs you did 5 mil dmg more than the 2nd person

oblique trail
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I've also been nr.1-3 on some of our mythic kills without the axe, surely warrior is just actually broken

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Clueless

fast mural
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its just pad dmg

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lets be real

oblique trail
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I mean

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I'd like to see how you pad on Nymue

arctic tinsel
jade onyx
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I ask here because more people might know. Is there a weakauras to check when augury is active to use cds on that window?

fast mural
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nymue is just RNG to not get bombs

formal ravine
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And having a good enough guild to kill stuff equaly

oblique trail
formal ravine
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Our fight took 7 minutes on nymue

oblique trail
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You never know when it'll proc and you'll just needlessly hold them

formal ravine
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and our dps was so unevemn

fast mural
formal ravine
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It was annoying

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Yeah well

oblique trail
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My 97 on Nymue was 7 min as well

formal ravine
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yeah same

oblique trail
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And surprisingly

formal ravine
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But had a lot of downtime

jade onyx
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Ok so just a bad idea

oblique trail
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The first time I go above blue is when we kill sides equally

formal ravine
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Cus when i was back for example one tree was at 10% the other at 35%

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Sop kinda annoyed couldn't get straight back to boss

oblique trail
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One is not like the rest

fast mural
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i beat my fury log with an arms one on nymue today critcake

oblique trail
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Literally worst boss for me personally to have parsed on

formal ravine
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Well i only have 1 nymue log lmao

clever path
oblique trail
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ofc not

formal ravine
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Who pi's warriors lmao

fast mural
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PI on fury keks

oblique trail
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Who PIs their Fury warrior

coarse nest
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Signet, augury, & Lego haha

fast mural
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litteraly does nothing

formal ravine
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Well it does make roar tick faster lmao

clever path
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calm down, was a joke

oblique trail
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I only get it in random HC pugs because I usually am near the top there

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Or in keys with friends

coarse nest
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Same ban lol

atomic nymph
fast mural
coarse nest
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As if spears last more than 3 seconds

formal ravine
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If they didn't die in 1.5 sec

coarse nest
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Lul

fast mural
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Might get one more tick of on chains

quiet bramble
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lol, so how easy is it to spread stacks of the legendary in aoe?

formal ravine
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1 gcd

oblique trail
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Pop WW

fast mural
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Whirlwind

oblique trail
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And you've applied it

formal ravine
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wether it's ww/of your pick

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It's just 1 gcd

quiet bramble
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nice, I wonder if we'll ever see a 50 stack consume

oblique trail
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No

formal ravine
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Like at what point have you ever seen a 50 unit pull

oblique trail
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Unless you see some gigantic Spiteful + chainpull

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and somehow neatly kill everything at the same time

formal ravine
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How big was algethar tree area?

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Like 25 or so?

fast mural
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Tindrall roots xan

oblique trail
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that's ancient memory for me at this point

olive wraith
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I feel like BH has potential imo

formal ravine
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Tindral roots is up to 20 bro

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LMAO

fast mural
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Still

formal ravine
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Even on a full group it will be 30

coarse nest
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It’s literally a weapon for killing roots on tindral

formal ravine
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And you probably cannot hit all of them

coarse nest
formal ravine
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cus you cannot stack 30

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But i think algethar tree are is roughly 25 units

clever path
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maybe new dungeons will come out in s3 for the 50 stack

formal ravine
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So i guess if that comes back for season 4

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We got that going ?

fast mural
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If we don't replace the leggo

olive wraith
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I think DF dungeons are confirmed for s4

formal ravine
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They are ?

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I saw nothing

young swan
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alm,ost certainly

formal ravine
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But even if i had seen something, forgetting is one of my strengths

quiet bramble
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they said in multiple places season 4 will have the 8 DF dungeons back

formal ravine
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bro i am a goldfish

fast mural
quiet bramble
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it's supposed to be a DF recap season

formal ravine
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Fair

clever path
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df sucked, we dont need a recap of faries

olive wraith
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Leggo and asscandy

young swan
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df sucked

formal ravine
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I recall ion said in an interview that they really liked how the tokens panned out in shadowlands

young swan
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thats a take

formal ravine
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So probably 3 tokens will be back

fast mural
olive wraith
coarse nest
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Ok I’m just going to say it

sullen dove
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buff a weapon i dont have gladge

clever path
sullen dove
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tuned around legendary moment gladge

coarse nest
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BF s4 was goated

quiet bramble
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eh, odds are s4 will only be from like May to August

oblique trail
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DF is definitely better than Shadowlands were

formal ravine
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I also think they will push war within from august

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To something like mid october

coarse nest
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Acquisition sucked but corruption was so much fun

fast mural
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Wod was better than shadow lands

half cargo
quiet bramble
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I think I ultimately did prefer the SL dungeons to DF but both were miles better than BfA

fast mural
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Not a hard thing to beat

half cargo
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Too Disney

oblique trail
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Corruption was either great or shit depending on your class

clever path
formal ravine
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Shadowlands M+ I think was extremely well made

sullen dove
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sl def way more variety it was basically 4 completely different color palettes of zones to choose from, but idk more of the vibe in df i liked a lot

formal ravine
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Like it gave options for big/small pulls

sullen dove
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felt a lot more mystical and ancient and shit

formal ravine
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And some nice plays

quiet bramble
formal ravine
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Shadowlands feels like if you chain pull you never have enough kicks

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I mean dragonflight

coarse nest
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I still think Legion is peak WoW

formal ravine
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Fucking fuck

arctic tinsel
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So does the leggo axe buff change anything or still use it when we have no cds

coarse nest
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Nothing since has touched it for me

sullen dove
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the change only really applies to super high target count fights or m+

formal ravine
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I wish we get back shadowlands m+ soon tbh

sullen dove
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so like, tindral

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and gnarlroot kinda

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very slight buff on igira but who cares bout that

quiet bramble
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The new vendor gold sink transmogs go away at the end of August. Remains to be seen if that's prepatch or the expansion itself

formal ravine
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The buff technically applis to anything above 6

quiet bramble
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I'm leaning towards pre-patch

formal ravine
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So as long as you're above 6 units the buff works already

sullen dove
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uh ya proly

formal ravine
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Well it was 5 capped

arctic tinsel
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Okay let's say you're in everbloom entrance and biggest pull ever

formal ravine
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So 6 and above is already a buff 😄

arctic tinsel
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Do you whirlwind leggo or send cds

sullen dove
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yea the onuse should do way more damage

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ehh

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its still only 10% a stack right

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idk

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so like say 15-20 mobs

young swan
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the on use is gonna fuck on tindral

formal ravine
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Yeah it is 10%

sullen dove
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its doing like 200% more dmg

young swan
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big fuck dam

sullen dove
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maybe

oblique trail
sullen dove
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but its all still split

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i think like, maybe odyns/roar and then leggo could be good burst

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all really fast

hardy fog
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whats the easiest Mythic boss after Volcross? Guilds trying to decide where to prog

formal ravine
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But if you think about it majority of current season is something like 8 to maybe 10 enemies per pull so it made no sense it was 5 capped in the first place

sullen dove
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actually yea that doesnt sound bad

formal ravine
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Then again

oblique trail
formal ravine
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Fury is 5 capped too

sullen tendon
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how can i get the legendary for sure tonight?

formal ravine
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And that also makes no sense

sullen dove
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do exact same opener for the most part but instead of bb rampages between of and ava, you just leggo

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which then means you just do bb spam 6 times after avatar

oblique trail
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Since both Nymue and Larodar are both somewhat equally as difficult, but Nymue drops better loots for casters and Laro loot is pretty shit

sullen dove
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but like whatever odyns dot is rolling

oblique trail
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Council is a clustershitassdog fight, but generally very easy

formal ravine
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I hate this council fight

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I find it an unfun council fight

oblique trail
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Almost any council fight is not fun

sullen dove
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larodar is imo more of a beat your head against a wall and itll die, aside from the firefighters doing their job its very much a numbers thing and just staying alive

formal ravine
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This is the most unfun then for me

hardy fog
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Do you guys 5 heal council or 4?

sullen dove
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but nymue you do gotta respect the mechanics

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and have enough dps for all 3 middle adds

oblique trail
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Our prog kill back in November we just 5 healed

formal ravine
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Same

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And 2 augs

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Trading the ducks

oblique trail
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hm apparently we still 5 heal

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There's no DPS check on it

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So it's just about living/doing mechanics

formal ravine
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Do you also 2 aug trade ducks?

oblique trail
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We did

formal ravine
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Yeah i think enrage is at 10 minute on this

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and it dies around 7 or so ?

warm crag
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making augs do it is monka

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@clever belfry

jolly mist
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how much will it cost to craft lego about 250k?

formal ravine
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Though i know for a fact i will never parse on this fight

jolly mist
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prayge crafters wont ask for too much

formal ravine
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Like i hate it so much i killed it once and am sitting out every reclear on it

oblique trail
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Yesterday we had our 2x Demo locks do it instead

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👴

formal ravine
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LMAO

oblique trail
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And they were fine with it

formal ravine
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That sounds sad

hasty path
oblique trail
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yeah well

formal ravine
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I got a 62 on council

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And i am never improving it

oblique trail
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I think the fight just kinda sucks dick for some casters

formal ravine
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1 kill gang

oblique trail
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And it sucks dick for most specs actually

hasty path
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it just sucks

oblique trail
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Only a few specs payphone it (i.e boomie/ele)

hasty path
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bad fight

formal ravine
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I just think council fights usually are a bit of a guilty pleasure

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you know that super cleavy fight

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This one doesn't even ahve that aspect to it

hasty path
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yeah except this isnt that

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its just

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worse

oblique trail
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This expac has not had a good council fight

formal ravine
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I mean season 1

oblique trail
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Vault council was dogshit

formal ravine
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I did not mind

hasty path
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i think primal council wasnt

formal ravine
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The 4 elemenet bullshits

hasty path
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atrocious

oblique trail
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Amirdrassil is dogshit

hasty path
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it wasnt good

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but it wasnt awful;

formal ravine
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They were bareable

oblique trail
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nah

formal ravine
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but this one is obnoxious

oblique trail
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Having to constantly

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walk back and forth to pillars

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because people adhd spam A&D and spread the circle

formal ravine
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Just spread it faster than aids

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All good

oblique trail
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It wasn't difficult it was just annoying

formal ravine
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You know which council i still love up to today though? Council of blood in nathria

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I think that was super well designed

oblique trail
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hate that fight

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I quit the entire tier before killing it

formal ravine
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What was season 2 council i forgot

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Oh wait experiments

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That also didn't feel much of a council either

surreal dagger
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Council of blood was an amazing boss

north edge
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Anyone if the axe buff means it will hit 1000% harder

surreal dagger
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All of nathria were bangers

sullen dove
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uh 500% i think

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on 50 targets

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but good luck finding that

north edge
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Oh it’s targets based?

sullen dove
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i might be mis interpreting but im assuming its the on use consuming stacks on mobs

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which was to my knowledge the only thing that involved the number 5

tidal heron
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if I would be crafting a 2H, does it matter what type I go for (sword/axe/polearm)?

sullen dove
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it would buff the on use's damage by up to 5 targets worth of marks, 10% for each stack

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but you can apply the passive dot to every target, on use only ever went as high as 50% bonus dmg

sullen dove
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p sure thats whats now been changed to eat and use up to 50 targets worth of marks

tidal heron
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fair

sullen dove
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we're like 5 sparks in now who cares what he uses them on

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can make a weapon just fine

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and no it doesnt matter which one

past pivot
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Lots in dungeons and raid.

sullen dove
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unless youre like, able to farm m+ reliably or get one in a guild raid, it aint that big a deal

past pivot
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Better use of sparks still.

arctic token
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Hi all! You guys know if raidBots is already updated with this new leggo buff?

clever belfry
sullen dove
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i mean im only wearing 3 sparks and is probably all im ever going to wear for the rest of the season

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maaaybe a 4th if another ring lookin better or i dont get a good one from raid/vault

inland chasm
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It's fine to use it on a weapon. 50+ m+ and I haven't seen one drop yet.

loud locust
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hey what crafted weapon would yall consider to be the best?

sullen dove
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doesnt rly matter

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theyre all the same

north edge
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Fyr alath

past pivot
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The legendary

sullen dove
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truuuue

hasty path
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Fire alarm the dream ender

north edge
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Btw I got the leggo before I could find a 483 wep

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50+ runs

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I’m just gonna craft 486 offhand as well

clever path
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I like how everyone who has Lego tries to subtly tries to brag about it lmao

glad coyote
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well yeah

sullen dove
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gotta do what you gotta do

glad coyote
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why wouldnt you brag about it?

clever path
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What’s the point lol

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Most of them are lfr andys

glad coyote
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cause its a lego

still garnet
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Hey I'm a heroic warrior brain rot main who gets GTFO parses every week, and I got the leggo

clever path
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I doubt lfr folks are gonna be able to kill echo of fyrak lol

hasty path
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its ok to be worse

graceful copper
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does the enrage speed bonus stack with fast footwork and speed enchants? or do not all of them work togethert

formal ravine
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They do

clever path
hasty path
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yeah but you dont have it

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so

glad coyote
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lol this guy doesnt have it

formal ravine
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Lmao nish rubbing some salt on a wound

clever path
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Blizz decided I’m strong enough and don’t need

hasty path
still garnet
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Says the weak

clever path
glad coyote
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this dude trying to make us feel bad cause we have it

clever path
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Cuz u still suck

formal ravine
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Random but I fucking love cats xd

hasty path
open prairie
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i need gromnak to get the lego

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for clips of him dying during the channel

clever path
clever path
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Correct

young swan
molten relic
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26 BRH

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not bad

young swan
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show lego damage

molten relic
young swan
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show lego damage

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wanna see numbers

molten relic
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the breakdown here

young swan
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oh i forgot it gets fucked by last boss

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gg

molten relic
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ya

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but the crit # is right

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the 500k

young swan
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pretty nice

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wish it wasnt fully consolidated

molten relic
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did almost 8%

young swan
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dunno why they did that

molten relic
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ya idk if theres a WA to split it in details

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cause its two diff spells

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one is rage and the other is mark

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Its been like 60-30 from what I can tell

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using the on use basically on CD

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the channel cancels if your target dies which is odd

fading bane
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everywhere i go

fading bane
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i see the legendary

oblique trail
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all my homies hate bacons

clever path
#

No pork or what?

humble plover
#

ok ive collected some data since acquiring leggo, gearing and playing warlock is easier and stronger than getting leggo

pulsar prawn
humble plover
#

i mean i dont read those

#

but yes

surreal dagger
dire badge
#

all hail wowhead ranking

young swan
#

"the fight was sick if u disregard everything that made it bad clueless"

fading bane
#

fight was just terrible

hasty path
#

Specifically the post-cheese pre-nerf Zskarn with rng traps and inconsistent spell queue

spark maple
#

how insane is the lego now with the hotfix buff

clever path
#

It did about 8% of my damage in a 20 dht

#

Thats the dot and the on use together

pulsar prawn
clever path
#

Well it was also my first dungeon with it

#

Finished it today

pulsar prawn
spark maple
#

the one time we get a lego, and were bottom dps 😭

pulsar prawn
#

yep

#
  • no utility
spark maple
#

it seems like literally every class that can use it is shafted

lean heart
#

does anyone have the picture of the legendary with tool tip that says remove aug from the game

rose bay
#

Weird question on nymue. is there a way to make the green beams more easy to spot, i really struggle 2 see them when a bomb is detonating and theres grean beams everywhere, if not, is there a way to practice it outside of mythic? i tried on heroic and its not the same, dont wanna keep holding the team back

light jetty
#

SLG>TSwift

storm rune
rose bay
#

Ok. Will I need to turn it up or down? I've been told both. Maybe I need to search wago I'm sure a wa exist with the correct setting

storm rune
#

Depends, if you're getting graphically overwhelmed you need to reduce, try bringing it all the way down to essential only if it's not already

#

Like this is an example of before with high particle density and after with it reduced on smoldy

young swan
pulsar prawn
#

maybe worth a try

young swan
#

tswift is bad but not THAT bad

storm rune
#

tswift good, divebomb fun

young swan
#

definitely wouldnt call a fight with 3 raid wide pass/fail checks good

rose bay
#

Okay! Thabk you both very much will download this when I get home. When guild release and if im in will try them both out! Thank you both very much again.

light jetty
#

It’s so boring for melee

fading bane
#

if tswift isnt a good boss, then idk what is 🤷‍♂️

pulsar prawn
rose bay
#

Will do

light jetty
#

The first 50-80 pulls honestly probably more for most guilds

young swan
#

gludaniel

#

elisande

light jetty
#

You just spawn and die on repeat LOL

rose bay
#

I'll probably be permabenched this tier anyway theres a way smarter warrior that joined our guild. I'm ok with it. There very good and I will cheer him from the bench!

#

And steel all his tricks 2.

fading bane
young swan
#

legion gladge

rose bay
#

Legion >:c

fading bane
molten relic
#

Denathrius good boss too if y’all still naming some

young swan
#

i didnt do it on mythic so i didnt include

#

i actually really like mekkatorque

#

but thats prob an unpopular opinion

clever belfry
modest condor
#

i hated mekkatorque

clever belfry
#

don't like the execution

rose bay
#

i liked the boss after meq

#

blockade?

clever belfry
#

the Los dogshit with the debuff

rose bay
#

was randomly easy

modest condor
#

too many mechanics that forced downtime and if you got grouped with one of those people who said 2 words across a raid night you were waiting for ages to get out of a bot

young swan
#

i thought it was a cool fight but the los was aids

clever belfry
#

was kanker

molten relic
#

P1 was bad after prog when everyone was full mythic geared tho

#

Holding dps for people to clear

young swan
#

yeah thats cringe

molten relic
#

Sylv p1 and p3 were fun

#

The chains shit was just too long

clever belfry
molten relic
#

But after doing mythic, the heroic sales made me wanna kms

#

Bc the p2 on sylv wasn’t even a real phase compared to mythic

young swan
#

yeah idk maybe my opinion will change when its been longer since kill

#

400 pulls too many for me to say i like the boss

clever belfry
#

400

#

yikes

young swan
#

yeah

#

not fun

#

!

clever belfry
#

think we did 260 something

unreal cape
#

400 pulls at what?

young swan
#

tindral

unreal cape
#

400, god damn

#

thats crazy

young swan
#

giga inflated due to some serial beam eaters

molten relic
#

We took 400+ on sylv ya

#

But prob closer to like 300 if u don’t count random p1 shit

unreal cape
#

are you tanking boss inside beam?

young swan
#

nope

unreal cape
#

is it different on mythic or why aren't people doing that

clever belfry
#

276 actually

clever belfry
#

it does 2.3m unmitigated on mythic

young swan
#

the impact does 3mil damage

#

good luck!

clever belfry
#

fun fact

unreal cape
#

ah okay, i'm not at tindral mythic yet so only know it from heroic

clever belfry
#

our warlock can live thaz

#

hate warlock

young swan
#

the warlock community needs to be locked up

clever belfry
#

always whining

#

anf end up top spec anyway

molten relic
#

Our warlock always floor pov

#

But the mf is a cool guy

#

And he’s the token warlock

unreal cape
#

to quickly come back to the 2x crushing force for M+. so people are running shout and pain & gain instead?

clever belfry
#

how he flooring on WL tho

unreal cape
#

cuz i've been running 2x crushing for weeks

molten relic
#

I don’t swap off crushing force in m+

#

Ngl

molten relic
#

But never tried without it

unreal cape
molten relic
#

I don’t take storm bolt either anymore

#

Just shockwave

unreal cape
#

what?

#

you're trolling

molten relic
#

Too many stuns in my groups already

#

Dh ret and prot pally usually

unreal cape
#

you only play with team ?

molten relic
#

But I also don’t push keys

#

I just do my 20s and sometimes do a few big keys

#

I don’t pug

unreal cape
#

ah okay

#

yeah

silk wharf
#

pig was funnier

molten relic
#

And if I do it’s keys for crests

unreal cape
#

well any key pushers here who can give me their take on 2x crushing or no ?

#

like on +25 keys

molten relic
#

Tho I did my first 26 today and absolutely cranked

#

I think

unreal cape
#

im just not used to having intim shout

#

so i'll see how it feels / plays with it

empty grove
#

is there a WA to track how many marks you have on something?

#

for the leggo

storm rune
#

Yep that'll do it. When you're solo it's nice, but in raids high particle density just means 19 other people casting plus 3 mechanics going off simultaneously is gonna make you feel blind

glad coyote
#

jsut stared a superbloom - dreamleaf group put 4 items on people

#

and they jsut bounce from group, are people sus about helping with lego?

empty grove
#

my leggo di 38m

proper cave
#

leggo quest, did u know something that the first boss is buggy ?

sinful spoke
#

this quest is so buggy

#

it doesnt give me % every now and then i would have been done with it by now if it wasnt because of it

sonic badge
#

how do i know what missive to use for crafting?

sinful spoke
#

you can sim it or take the recomended haste mastery

sonic badge
#

i can sim missives on raidbot?

oblique trail
#

Just craft gear with vers/mast

#

Long term vers/mast will be the go-to stats, and short term it'll be close to any other combination

#

And it saves you the recraft

#

If you are really curious, you can sim it through gear compare and check it there, or in top gear by pressing the "+" on a crafted item if you already have it on you but at a lower ilvl/different stats

#

Droptimiser also works as an alternative, but you can't make it place Shadowflame patches on gear for example

sonic badge
#

ty

wicked plinth
#

greater ember 😄

#

smile through the pain

glad coyote
#

what am i missing with the sophic vellium quest?

#

i did it with fire and got 5% did it with air twice and nothing

unreal cape
#

it *should * give 5% on each

glad coyote
#

do i have to target myself>

pulsar prawn
unreal cape
#

no i just bought the mats from AH and used it

glad coyote
#

wtf

unreal cape
#

but that quest sucked

#

just clicked the big button that popped up

glad coyote
#

such a gold dump

unreal cape
#

yep

frank dawn
#

very engaging quest

molten relic
#

More damage from just u and the other dps as opposed to 3 crankers

#

But yeah it’s good

runic pine
#

another week another punch in the balls

molten relic
#

Surely next week

#

I believe in u

runic pine
frail trout
#

I guess I don't pay attention to this stuff

#

and "damage to bosses"

modest condor
#

overall damage statistics are a meme

coral isle
pulsar prawn
modest condor
#

not talking about that

#

overall boss damage statistics are also meme

#

you need to look at individual bosses and what's important on those bosses

#

also the last 3 bosses in the raid, which are the only difficult ones, fury is all near the top

#

well except for tindral i guess but you just straight up cant look at dps on that fight

pulsar prawn
#

whatever i got my choclate dessert and bought 2x 100.000g mogg from the new vendor okayge

modest condor
#

like it's the most meaningless dps stats have ever been on a boss

#

huga

molten relic
#

Ya idc what them stats are saying

#

Fury does well in all the fights

modest condor
#

yeah

pulsar prawn
#

they cant bench me anyway.. im the only buffior in the guild BattleShout

molten relic
#

We lose nothing for taking our aoe

#

Lotta other classes have to lose more

#

But obv there are still some outliers

#

I think Enh ST is overtuned

modest condor
#

is it tho?

weak tartan
#

Is there any sim showing Fyrlath before and after the buff diff in 8+ targets?

modest condor
#

it's not even top damage on any of the st bosses

#

no, nobody really cares enough about uncapped aoe sims to look at them

weak tartan
#

it still matters in everbloom and sometimes in brh

modest condor
#

yeah but that's mostly padding anyway

weak tartan
#

padding is good

#

more overall

#

means good

modest condor
#

sure but none of us here sim for that

weak tartan
#

my little knowledge doesnt know how to sim before and after

#

sadly

modest condor
#

you can change version between weekly/latest

weak tartan
#

and I just got it so I cant compare with old damage

frail trout
#

as for the rest, no idea

modest condor
#

it does about the same as fury on smolderon according to logs

weak tartan
modest condor
#

yeah

#

latest just has all the changes while weekly only updates once a week

#

so unless we just swapped to a new weekly build it's just before any recent changes

weak tartan
#

testing now

runic pine
#

honestly who cares about where we are on the totem pole, I'm just here to blast

#

also council and nymue are kinda cringe

pulsar prawn
#

larodar also.. that running away critcake

modest condor
#

we pushed larodar while he was standing in fire today

mild kraken
#

Larador making me wanna smash my keyboard tbh

modest condor
#

just standing there twiddling my thumbs for 20 seconds during the aoe critcake

runic pine
#

ooof

pulsar prawn
#

im already exited for tindral... 3fps roots gameplay into eyecancer blinding beams

#
  • dragonflying critcake
modest condor
#

30man heroic doesnt lag me anymore on tindral so im sure ill be fine on mythic

#

first 2 weeks was horrible tho

#

like my screen was just frozen as long as there were roots alive

sinful spoke
#

so far

#

died twice with cuz leggo

#

on tswift

median kestrel
#

is our second cd usage on tswift just worthless?

molten relic
#

And I’m 486

#

Prob some skewed data but them mfs crank

modest condor
#

97 and 92 is pretty close, ilvls dont matter for parses he just got more lucky with rng

molten relic
#

But 6 ilvl lower and he did the same damage as me

modest condor
#

rng

molten relic
#

I guess ya

#

Slot machine class

#

That was before I finished leggo tho

modest condor
molten relic
#

I prob do 10k more than him on that pull with leggo

#

Tru

#

Leggo might crank on tindral now

#

U ww the roots then pop leggo

#

And they’re dead before last hit blasts him

modest condor
#

yeah and then last blast does full buffed damage to only 1 target

molten relic
#

Yea

modest condor
#

Ur

molten relic
#

Last hit is like 250k or so from what I’ve seen and crits over 500

#

And that’s with just ripping one mark

#

So ripping 15+ from roots kinda nice

modest condor
#

yeah

molten relic
#

Have you gotten yours yet?

modest condor
#

nope

molten relic
#

Damn

#

Next week for sure

modest condor
#

surely copium clueless

molten relic
#

I believe

restive peak
#

Next week we're all getting it guys

#

D:

gloomy hawk
#

rockin myth track rezan and might of the ocean since I cannot get a signet about LFR to drop Dx

#

above**

#

and none for me either from normal, about to heroic, here's hoping

restive peak
#

Signet overrated AF

tardy lark
#

Not a very useful trinket outside of the longer fights. Its good on Fyrakk at least, which is the only important one

median kestrel
#

signet op

restive peak
#

It's doing awful on my P1 fyrakk pulls 😉

#

I know it'll pump 2 weeks from now when we get far xD

frank dawn
#

until you die huehue

tardy lark
#

Might as well not play it in heroic generally

cunning zodiac
#

random question

#

just got to mythic tindral

#

I can't odyns fury any sets outside of the get out of root sets?

sullen dove
#

uhh just do whatever?

#

i think a few trees gonna spawn every set anyway

#

maybe watch out for it later in the fight if it gets more hectic

#

but afaik just send it

cunning zodiac
#

guilds telling me we can't have any treants

#

so I can't odynns

sullen dove
#

idk sounds like an iss-them and not an iss-ue

#

like not odyning 80% of root sets just sounds omega wrong

#

might as well be playing arms

tardy lark
#

You are using odyns regardless. Fuck em

#

If our warrior did at world 15th, you can do the same at whatever level you play

modest condor
restive peak
modest condor
#

surely

#

or just get lucky and have it fully stack in the first 1.5 minutes so it will do high damage even in p1

tardy lark
#

Doctors don’t want you to know about this

restive peak
#

True true true true true changing rotation to induce this now

#

We love a good weakaura phase

fluid cedar
#

wemetanye buff fury wemetanye

acoustic seal
#

Can I get a check if I'm an idiot or not. There's value on fights like Dresaron in DHT to use the leggo to funnel, right?

#

Like have the tank get a bunch of whelps, apply the mark to em, and then stand on the other side of the boss away from whelps and do the on-use

modest condor
#

fure sure

#

it's free damage

acoustic seal
#

I did it just to test and it was like a 1mil hit on des not really trying to really ramp it with giga whelps

modest condor
#

the dragons dont really do anything afaik so it's not like you put the tank in danger by making them spawn a bunch

acoustic seal
#

that's pretty neat

oblique trail
#

You want to pull the dragons to make your lego's on use stronger, I pull them because I on accident missclick my leap and walk into 10 eggs spontanously

#

we are not the same

modest condor
#

lol

acoustic seal
#

haha dont mistake intent for a happy accident

acoustic seal
#

Oh gnarlroot possible application too, if the tank moves the lashers out for bit during the amp

modest condor
#

not sure that one is realistic

acoustic seal
#

yeah that's a pipedream you got me there

modest condor
#

but we were talking about tindral earlier because the roots die so quickly there's a big chance your final hit will be after all the roots are dead so it does full damage to the boss

oblique trail
# young swan "accident" "missclick"

Swear it was an accident just like when my friend somehow ended up pulling 1/5th of the eggs during winds because he couldn't control his character clueless

dire vigil
#

How viable is lariat for fury? I got a socketed myth Mast/Vers wrist from raid and already have 489 belt to socket and 489 boots. Shadowflame on cloak as 1 embelly

oblique trail
#

With full sockies, Lariat is pretty close to any of the other good embellishments

dire vigil
#

I'm at 5 sockets w/switch to wrist and neck switch to Lariat

oblique trail
#

You can sim it, but it'll beat Shadowflame on AoE

dire vigil
#

I might just fk around and do it now, because that'll also be 3 ilvl on wrists and neck, thanks @oblique trail

solemn widget
#

on mythic tindral do you hold first cds for first root set or send on pull?

silk wharf
#

If the timings are the same as heroic I would assume youd hold. you would hold your second set for shield dps anyway

#

So no downside.

sinful spoke
#

guys can ur odyns fury get parried? 💀

#

i think i just saw tswift parry me

frank dawn
#

prob saw us talking about parry the other day and hotfixed it in

modest condor
#

"just dont stand in front of the boss"

sullen dove
#

aint no way it does odyns

#

but maybe melees or bts or somethin

upbeat plume
#

ww dosent apply the leggo dot does it? (not that I have it of course lol T.T)

oblique trail
#

it does

#

Any attack applies it, even charge

upbeat plume
#

ah well at least that makes it easy to use that new aoe buff for the rare occasion its actuallly relevant lol

sinful spoke
#

super important question guys anyone got a red mog to matc the leggo

sullen dove
#

mythic version of new set okayge

modest condor
#

heroic last tier?

sullen dove
sudden tusk
#

97 on smoldy with no lego

#

lets fucking go

sullen dove
#

i rly like the santa claus set

modest condor
#

still one of the dumbest helms ever

sinful spoke
modest condor
#

no

sinful spoke
#

oh wait

#

im thinking s1

#

💀

modest condor
#

maybe a bit too dark to fit with the lego

umbral galleon
#

boys are we running annihilator for m+

gilded pawn
#

yes

umbral galleon
#

sucks

olive wraith
#

It’s pretty fun imo

umbral galleon
#

i've always enjoyed having the highest apm on the raid

#

its weird playing like arms where u stare at the screen

olive wraith
#

We do still

#

We don’t lose apm

modest condor
#

yeah idk why you would think annihilator suddenly lowers our apm

ember osprey
#

what else would we stare ay?

modest condor
#

we may not stack as much haste, but you're still gcd locked

ember osprey
#

at

gilded pawn
#

that 0.08%

umbral galleon
#

i'm not sure it does it just feels like it

olive wraith
#

Is it cause it’s not a single button rage gen

#

That perceived apm from slamming raging blow 5 times a second

sinful spoke
solemn widget
#

does anyone have enhance shaman WF list?

sinful spoke
#

plus leggo is pinkish

sinful spoke
modest condor
#

maybe firelands set

#

no wait

solemn widget
#

thank youy

modest condor
#

im thinking of the ragnaros shoulders i think, that's not the full set

olive wraith
sinful spoke
#

random but wtf?

inland zodiac
#

Question for a newish fury player. If you have whirlwind charges left when Odyns fury comes off CD, do you use your existing WW charges first then press OF, or use it right away?

olive wraith
silk wharf
#

It cant matter enough to care about, honestly. Just send the Odyns imo

#

I couldnt even see a reason to paly the odyns gives whirlwind talent over the typical one

#

its barely more aoe and you lose the st benefit

olive wraith
#

I’m a big DB fan

#

Screw titanic rage

oblique trail
#

If you run Titanic Rage, it won't matter if you use the ww stacks or not

inland zodiac
#

Oh I see. I was thinking most people were playing titanic rage. My mistake then

silk wharf
#

Generally speaking most pulls start by gathering which gives you time to gain 80 rage and whirlwind.

oblique trail
#

Titanic is just quality of life really

#

Its weaker throughput but makes the cooldown window smoother

olive wraith
#

It might be better in baby keys

#

But what’s the point of optimizing that

oblique trail
#

Sure but in baby keys you can run whatever

inland zodiac
#

Well I’m just now getting into 21s

#

So working to optimize, and sounds like DB is the way to go

oblique trail
#

Definitely start using db then

olive wraith
#

Baby keys meaning trash dies in like 20 seconds

#

Db is just solid prio dmg plus rage gen

#

If only we could have kept the 2 button rotation

inland zodiac
#

So opener with DB would be reck, charge, OF, DR, WW, Single target rotation with WW woven in? This is for M+

modest condor
#

no you would have to get enraged before you OF

inland zodiac
#

Oh right…..

#

Back to the target dummies ha

clever path
#

Did anyone understand what they wanted to say

#

All I saw read from it was some shitty lore no one interested in

gilded pawn
#

american education is kind of shit

#

so it basically says

#

the theme is cool

#

tuning is kinda shit

#

TC does no damage

#

procs arent impactful

#

BT vs RB is still a real thing

clever path
#

Wow

fair oasis
#

fyralath dam amped by avatar or anything?

dense elbow
#

Versa, crit, those kind of modifiers

sullen dove
#

yea just every secondary except mastery psure

#

idk if strength matters

#

def no abilities like avatar/reck

fair oasis
#

kinda surprised OF mini avatar doesnt clear tindral root?

clever path
modest condor
fair oasis
#

ahh ok, maybe thats it, span of use to 2nd roots less than 20 sec

clever path
#

Cause that literally looks like most boring review of a hero spec I have seen so far. Like legit, other authors somehow just analyzed every little detail , and here that dude just wrote “mkay, yeah, cool story and ughhh lore , hhaha - play warrior cause you know - mountain thane member”

dense elbow
#

Come on, we even got small things like: You've been thunderstruck!

#

That gotta have jolted you some

#

a bit of shock to your humor?

clever path
#

I mean , I don’t really care - I’ll play warrior. I tried playing Paladin these 2 days and it’s just like putting someone into nursing home.

queen epoch
#

Sadge still no leggo

clever path
#

Warrior is gonna be just as fine next expansion, what I have issue with is outside of buffs (not really ) to Thunder Clap I feel nothiiiiin

dense elbow
#

I am sure they will buff the numbers if they are needed, as they always do, at some point in the expansion. Maybe.

sullen dove
#

archi got like, a lot of damage % comparisons

#

of abilitiets

#

wut

gilded pawn
#

its fine

#

i gave you the dumbed down version

neat laurel
#

yo, as fury how should I balance my stats. I know prio is vers and mastery and mainly ilvl, but as enchants and gems and stuff I see high parsing warriors generate different stats like crit and haste. Is there a certain balance im supposed to have?

dense elbow
spiral oasis
#

next week surely

earnest galleon
#

surely

edgy widget
#

Cause I feel like it was pretty straight forward

spiral oasis
#

No trinkets and no axe i am gettin a bit miffed.

clever path
#

do we look good so far?

edgy widget
#

Read the fuckin post

clever path
#

I did, and sorry i didnt get anything besides lore throwbacks

edgy widget
#

then you didn't read it

gilded pawn
#

man just didnt take the time to read it

#

im literally reading it while playing league and it was fine

edgy widget
#

there's one paragraph, and not even the first, that talks at all about lore - because it has been a point of criticism

#

would be kind of disingenuous not to critique it

clever path
#

compare your post to this

#

here i atleast have something to compare stuff with

gilded pawn
#

because theres actually stuff to talk about

earnest galleon
#

uh oh

sullen dove
gilded pawn
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whereas ours is just "coupele procs here and there"

sullen dove
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this sounds like its being compared against fury abilities

edgy widget
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seems like you're just trying to be antagonistic, cause I've asked you several times what problem you had with it, and you've been unable to give any kind of explanation

gilded pawn
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good words

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i was looking for that word

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ty

sullen dove
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holy 5head terminology

gilded pawn
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ESL is hard

sullen dove
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vernacular viper

edgy widget
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I'm open to criticism, but like what exactly are you looking for?

clever path
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post is fine

neat gazelle
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What can we take instead of shockwave if we feel we don’t need it in low keys?

clever path
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I have trouble understanding if its looking good or not, no need to flame me for that, im not a numbers kind of person

spice jetty
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Thunderclap on fury just seems like a feels bad kinda thing imo.

sullen dove
edgy widget
sullen dove
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or 1/2 maybew

sullen dove
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if you do minute roar

clever path
left perch
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Ultimately the goal for hero talents is just to enhance your base build and however you want to play a class

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lmfao

edgy widget
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All I saw read from it was some shitty lore no one interested in```

```compare your post to this
here i atleast have something to compare stuff with```
olive wraith
sullen dove
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you just kinda said that the post ONLY talked about the lore and nothing else, when it was only 1 thing that was mentioned

spice jetty
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Very much so

sullen dove
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and theres definitely comparisons with fury's abilities

left perch
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we really just gonna read statements like that from blizzard and go “oh yea this time for sure they get it right”

clever path
# edgy widget Ok, but that's not what you said before, and which I replied to

If we are talking about my comparison to BDK analysis - its just I guess because there are more significant changes to BDK than for warriors, again - not an issue with the post. Wasn't thinking that it may have something to do with that.

Yeah, the lore thing is purely subjective - sure its a nice intro, but it felt like a filler because theres not much to talk about lol

young swan
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I feel like talking about thematics and where those come from is a pretty crucial topic considering how deeply ingrained the new system is in theme and fantasy

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just my 2 cents

edgy widget
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I spent a single paragraph (out of 13, 18 if you include bullet points) on lore, because it's been a point of criticism

sudden tusk
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slayer better be poppin

edgy widget
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I don't think that's really out of line

sudden tusk
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because mountain thane is mountain lame

clever path
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I mean sure its cool, yea, I dont think its bad. Its just... I mean, looking at any other class and how fundamentally their playstyles change and are analyzed thoroughly and then drawing comparison to what we have for the warrior - i am not saying its Archimitroses fault

young swan
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i like mountain thane...

snow edge
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That is suuuuuper subjective, themes will be what they will be

sudden tusk
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for prot its lit