fury

[molten relic]

no

[modern gull]

because i did highest and i did like lfr and the ember still dropped

[granite tiger]

what is diffrent between raid and m+ stats for fury ?! just need more vers for ST ?! ( i sim that just want to know,please dont tell me sim it xD )

[clever path]

maybe you did lfr first

[modern gull]

i did normal then lfr and it dropped ?

[robust widget]

doesnt really matter, they've said its cumulative chances and that they're working as intended

[clever path]

oh, then yeah i think you just wasted your time then lol

[modern gull]

guess i do that next week then lol

[clever path]

i just did it for the easy flightstones

[icy pendant]

whats better for extra stat Leech or Avoidance?

[unreal onyx]

avoidance for survival

leech for hps log

[hasty path]

Speed

[wild mural]

neither for

[nova garnet]

@wild mural

[wild mural]

i uwu at you

what do

[past pivot]

It depends on your gear. M+ likes stats that give more burst. That’s why you need to sim.

[past pivot]

You did not do normal then lfr in the same week and got the leggo. That’s not how it works.

[molten relic]

prob saying blp but I havent seen a single confirmed time where someone did higher then lower and got greater ember botht imes

times*

its always been lower then higher and gotten 2 tokens

and people just mistaken

No sense trying to solve the blp- blizz said working as intended, and higher gives cumu

[nova garnet]

I roll for initiative

[nova garnet]

Unlucky

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons8ball-deez-nuts-8ball-make-a-wish-merps-gif-26138412

[past pivot]

I still say blp is given upon kill and the embers are just a visual participation trophy.

[wild mural]

It's super effective!

[clever path]

i wouldnt be surprised

[wild mural]

that's exactly what I've been saying and it was a hot take

[hasty path]

I got an ember drop alongside my legendary

[robust widget]

i got an ember without legendary

[clever path]

i dont think blizz would tell you if it wasnt working as intended, just for the sole fact that they would have to give some sort of free item to have people back on track

[wild mural]

I got an legendary without ember

[nova garnet]

I got a legendn too

Legend on deez nuts

@wild mural did you get a chwn with your legendary?

[molten relic]

imo this confirms it rolls multiple times

on higher difficulties

first roll u got blp second gave u lego

[wild mural]

whats a chwn

[hasty path]

That is heroic

[molten relic]

correct

[hasty path]

Idk I’ve barely looked into any of this

[nova garnet]

Chewing on Deez nuts @wild mural

Ily

[wild mural]

BET

[nova garnet]

Let's cuddle

[hasty path]

I just kinda got it now I gotta make it zzz

[wild mural]

yes

[molten relic]

i got mine with no blp token

[clever path]

how low was your dps that run

[molten relic]

top in raid

[clever path]

surprising then

[molten relic]

first in guild too

[clever path]

ive only seen the low dps get it

[wild mural]

untrue

[unreal onyx]

64

[wild mural]

(ok ye my dps was low)

I got a phone dcall!

[unreal onyx]

[clever path]

lol, guess my point was proven

[robust widget]

@unreal onyx you getting it this ID my man?

[wild mural]

Im good I promise

[unreal onyx]

100%

[robust widget]

[hasty path]

[unreal onyx]

my R1 smoldy healing log got beaten yesterday

[wild mural]

Im benched on council tonight

so no r1

[unreal onyx]

I am in shambles

[coarse nest]

I can’t log well to save my life

Pshh doing way better than me

[robust widget]

might aswell reroll

[wild mural]

gonna improve tonight

[unreal onyx]

leggo diff

(I don't have it)

[wild mural]

Im also v bad at the game

so yknow

[coarse nest]

I need Lego man SMH

Don’t have augury either

[unreal onyx]

at least I got rid of my purples in hc

[modest condor]

almost like we've been saying that for ages but everybody keeps having to argue about it for some reason

[molten relic]

100%

[wild mural]

SHOCKING

I am shocked

[molten relic]

always someone coming in saying they have 25 greater tokens and ran all lowers first and still didnt get it idk

[hasty path]

Can you explain this to me bc this is the first I’m hearing of it

[modest condor]

or the thing with lfr being 1%, normal 2%, heroic 3% and if you go straight to heroic it's 6%

[wild mural]

heroic ghey

[modest condor]

so lfr, normal and heroic all have their own chance to drop the lego right

[hasty path]

Sure

[robust widget]

what is this arms icon man get it away

[modest condor]

but if you go into heroic, it doesnt just roll for heroic, it also rolls for normal and lfr

[hasty path]

Oh

[modest condor]

so you get 3 rolls for the lego if you do heroic without doing lfr and normal first

[wild mural]

we gaming

[robust widget]

🤢

[modest condor]

but say you do lfr first and then heroic, the heroic kill will roll the normal and heroic chance

[hasty path]

So I probably got my legendary from the normal or LFR roll

[oblique trail]

Too bad all three of my dice are loaded

[hasty path]

And the ember from my heroic roll

In my pic

[coarse nest]

Yes nish

[modest condor]

something like that yes

[coarse nest]

That makes sense to me

[modest condor]

could also be the other way around

[hasty path]

Yea

[molten relic]

well since its heroic the ember will always say "Heroic" regardless if you killed it on heroic

[hasty path]

Obviously no way of knowing

[wild mural]

I need more HP

[molten relic]

but yeah no way to know

but imo that pic with a ember and leggo confirms the mul;tiple rolls

that we been assuming like silm said

[wild mural]

well we knew that

im fairly sure that was confirmed

[molten relic]

well cumulative chances is the wording they used

which was kinda vague

[modest condor]

cumulative chances was refering to bad luck protection building up over the weeks

as far as i understood it

[hasty path]

Yeah it was odd

[molten relic]

but we assumed it just rolled 3 times, not 1 time at 3x rate

[hasty path]

A few people in guild commented on it when it happened

[modest condor]

a lot of people think it rolled once with a higher rate

[molten relic]

ye

"As with Nasz’uro, completion on higher difficulties will include your chances from all uncompleted lower difficulties that week–this also includes the cumulative increase in chances for future weeks."

youre right Silm

they said cumu for BLP- but they said it includes all chances- which sounds more like individuals

[wild mural]

Nyasz'owo*

[modest condor]

owo

[wild mural]

Do I order kfc with gravy

[hasty path]

😦 literally 1984

[molten relic]

anyways- I got mine on the only week I ddint do lower difficulties first

[nova garnet]

UwUrrior

[molten relic]

so just do heroic first and ur gaming

[modest condor]

taking notes

[wild mural]

UwUrrior

[wild mural]

real

[nova garnet]

OwO

UmU

[hasty path]

I didn’t do lower difficulties this week either. And it was my 3rd heroic kill on the character

[modest condor]

so far i've learned that you need to only get a lesser from tindral, you need to go straight into heroic, and you cant do it with 17 warriors in the raid

[hasty path]

I’d maybe also done one normal and one LFR

[nova garnet]

Unlike UmU because it's like a bug face

[molten relic]

Confirmed

[wild mural]

I sucked 17 dicks before I got it

[nova garnet]

My warrior name is 5x more degenerate

[wild mural]

so thats what ppl need to do

[hasty path]

I also woke up 15min after raid started and pulled up after they’d already done the skip through Smolderon

[nova garnet]

Are you on na btw

@wild mural

[wild mural]

no

[clever path]

my warriors name is MikeHawk

[nova garnet]

Well that sucks

[hasty path]

Not even 37?

[nova garnet]

My warriors name is

||Slimegirl||

[wild mural]

Nope just 17

[molten relic]

I parsed a 97 for furakk for my leggo

Blaster confirmed

[wild mural]

very degen I love it

[molten relic]

[nova garnet]

My girlfriend's got 37 dicks. 37.

[hasty path]

In a row?

[modest condor]

ok that's enough

[oblique trail]

wtf is going on

[nova garnet]

What's the original source for that song

[clever path]

adam22 over here

[coarse nest]

Appendage talk apparently

[wild mural]

i believe in everyone gonna get leggo

[nova garnet]

I've only heard the m1dy or m1dlet version idr which

[wild mural]

if I could do it evryoine can

[nova garnet]

Nah we talking about a specific speed core song lol

I think

Nah it's m1dy

[covert blaze]

I believe it

[clever path]

so you sucked 16 dicks for free

[dire vigil]

Man.. the new DPS statistics for mythic raid are brutal

[hasty path]

Wat

It’s from a movie

[nova garnet]

Is it

I only know it from the song

[wild mural]

we're below survival

[nova garnet]

Rhythm gamer moment

[dire vigil]

They just posted. Warrior down so fkn bad it’s not even funny. Just give us a 20% buff to all bloodbath or something. It encourages proper play by weighting recklessness uptime even more heavily and our damage amp from OF becomes better

[oblique trail]

Make 2p cleave

and we're guchi

[stiff barn]

This^

[wild mural]

we did it

[clever path]

random question, if i have an alt account can i merge it with my main account?

[olive wraith]

Only a month late

[wild mural]

Oh well

better late than never

[dire vigil]

Where is the best place to write out a well-written, thought out plea for a buff?

[coarse nest]

You made it to 20 lol

[left perch]

If same last name yes

[coarse nest]

I stopped at 18

[lapis lion]

I think you're just looking at the colorful bars. Numerically, the gap is pretty small and completely workable. Would a small buff be nice? Sure - but it's not this bad.

[dire vigil]

Tell raid leaders worldwide lol. This combined with lack of utility puts us in the cellar

[coarse nest]

You’ll have to prove to blizzard both accounts are yours if one has a “made up last name” but yes you can

[lapis lion]

Okay get them on the phone, I'll tell them

[covert blaze]

Where are you getting this from

[olive wraith]

I get invites usually

It’s harder to get into m+

[covert blaze]

You still needs battle shout

[olive wraith]

Than raid

[dire vigil]

It’s almost a given to decline thinking about bringing a 2nd Warrior though

[coarse nest]

Try getting into a 24 or 25

Literally dead lfg

Lul

[covert blaze]

So?

Warrior is not an outlier in that regard

[oblique trail]

Bringing 2 classes of any isn't super frequent

[covert blaze]

There's not much room for any class stacking

[coarse nest]

VDH+havoc seems to be common

[oblique trail]

Also in most CE guilds, unless you're at the highest end, you can run 2x warriors

[coarse nest]

Oh raid

We have 3 warriors in our guild we just killed smold last night

[dire vigil]

Yeah, but what I’m saying is if you’re looking at the graph and you need to scroll down to see either warrior spec, it becomes tougher lol.

[coarse nest]

1 tank 2 dps

[clever path]

you know how i do it by any chance?

both accounts are in my name

[oblique trail]

Most guilds really don't care about them though

If you have 2 exceptional warrior players, you'll very likely pick them and get them in for progress

[dire vigil]

Yeah, you’re right

[oblique trail]

Especially considering that warrior is pretty good this tier

[lapis lion]

i swear he just saw the rankings on wowhead and melted down instead of looking at them

[covert blaze]

Warrior is numerically decent and needed for bshout and rally

Idk what you're on about

[left perch]

you can do a character transfer in game iirc, and you can select the target account and realm

[lapis lion]

traditionally, the gaps havent been so small and numerically close, i get it, but read the data for what it is

[left perch]

unless your accounts are not linked maybe it won’t show in the drop down

[dire vigil]

Im despondent, actually. Melting like a snow cone on a summer day

[modest condor]

@honest sundial

[lapis lion]

literally shaking rn

[dire vigil]

For real though, a tune to bloodbath empowerment encourages good rotation and gives us a little buff

[oblique trail]

I think Bloodbaths damage is just fine

Just that 2p not cleaving kinda smells

[dire badge]

regarding the demand of warriors i know its less and tbh evey famous warrior here like benzai for example he wouldn't allow 2 to 3 dps warriors to be in his guild because that threatens his existance in the guild even if he is leader or guildmaster warriors tend to have that envious gesture when a new warrior dps try to threaten their position unlike mages hunters or warlocks where you can simply can see them stack and treat each other as a family

[oblique trail]

missed this one

[dire badge]

seems on topic enough

[hasty path]

According to the most reliable source of world of Warcraft game statistics, furry is A-tier

[low folio]

i think im more unhappy that im bothering with raiding to not have the legnedary drop than if i were to just not try to get the legendary at all

[lapis lion]

i only get my info from noxxic, sorry

[lapis lion]

then stop and dont try

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[dense elbow]

You guys dont have atleast one warrbro on your team?

Warriors got to be at least two, or we lonley af

[oblique trail]

This is the first tier in a while I've had a cowarrior

[dense elbow]

Warrior is not complete, without a warrbro

[covert blaze]

No, my raid leader looked at a graph

[oblique trail]

Are you bros though if you never speak to each other

[dire vigil]

Personally, I think each class should have a dominant spec that is competitive and remains tuned for the top 50% of dps classes. You shouldn’t see any dps class with an 18th ranked and 20th ranked, for instance.

[lapis lion]

what happens if everyone is tuned for top 50%

can you let me in on that secret

[dense elbow]

Guys, chill, chill, remember - Legendary is coming

[dire badge]

next week

[dense elbow]

We scale with gear

[dire vigil]

Then nobody is…

[covert blaze]

for sure

[wild mural]

No :9

[hasty path]

Ranked by what

[lapis lion]

if #1 does 500k dps and #20 does 499k dps then you're still complaining. youre literally using numerical rankings like 18 and 20 to base this off of

[clever path]

trying to see how i can link them

[dire vigil]

I’m not complaining, was observing. I don’t need “well actually’s” I was just looking at the chart lmaoo, top ends are all decently close

[lapis lion]

which is pointless. in most cases the gap between #2 and #20 this tier is like 5%

[left perch]

That part I haven’t done in a hot minute. I think you need to have them on the same battle net email or smth

[clever path]

ahh so maybe i can only have multiple instances of Battle.ne

[hasty path]

Based (based) on this data (based) warrior doesn’t need changes then. Focus should be on priest, Paladin, monk, shaman, and DK

[left perch]

You might be able to do the transfer to a target account by ID too instead of linked and drop down

[rigid stirrup]

bro can we all just realize we're always the bridesmaid but never the bride

[dire vigil]

So based on this dps chart, what I’m saying about “top 50%” is that maybe a DK or Warrior spec sits above 1, maybe 2, of the mage specs for instance.

[neon nacelle]

Hi guys, i got a question, the quest for head enchant. Can be complete in all dificults? or just in one of them?

I mean, can i do lfr, after nm, after hc to complete?

[rigid stirrup]

difficulty doesn't matter

[covert blaze]

Think he is asking about getting quest progress from more than one

And I don't remember how it works

[lunar cape]

Looks like warrior does need changes arms is at the bottom

[clever path]

this is purely raid?

[clever path]

is there something like that for m+?
I wanna see warriors there

[hasty path]

No aug is at the bottom

Buff aug

[lunar cape]

[covert blaze]

[clever path]

aug doesnt exist

[nova garnet]

Reddit, and pray a Dev see's it.

[fading sky]

Yes and raid is wherr we perform the best atm🤣

[placid current]

there we go 🙂

[dense elbow]

I do decent in keys

[clever path]

we do pretty ell in M+

[dense elbow]

Gz SooS :)

[noble elm]

The problem with using wcl

Is some fights fuck up the overalls

[calm barn]

We do pretty well in keys if you ignore the fact we bring virtually no utility.

[fading sky]

Not rly. When u play with proper classes

[lunar cape]

Gratz you lucky bastard

[placid current]

atleast i can use it now to kill tindral 😄

[noble elm]

If you discard tindral as a dataset - the numbers look different

[clever path]

like what

[noble elm]

A lot different

[fading sky]

Mages dh rogues ww

[dense elbow]

Well, if we are doing well on one fight, that is balanced. As blizz stated.

[lunar cape]

At least we be tanky

[clever path]

oh youre solely talking about meta classes

[sinful orbit]

I am pretty sure only 5% top of people in this discord push 25+

[fading sky]

Well the gap is real in both utility and dmg

[sinful orbit]

Below 25 we are all fine

[fading sky]

I just started the 24/25 bracket

[calm barn]

5% is generous

[rugged wedge]

Leggo and augury will defo drop tonight

[clever path]

thats pretty subjective, since there alot more less skillful dhs, rogues, and mages than there are good ones

[dire vigil]

I’m usually top damage on boss fights in keys, which is ironic given lackluster statistics for raid boss damage. Idk. All of this is probably still settling out and there’s a distinct possibility that Fury, Arms, Frost, and Unholy averages will rise to a more perceived competitive level with the leggo in hand

[cosmic lance]

I mean you still do less damage below 25 too. But you'll still time the keys if you play well

[sinful orbit]

Exactly

[fading sky]

I mean in the 25 bracket..

They do seem rather potent

[noble elm]

Given the amount of data out there I’d say there’s not much of a chance we see it rise enough to make a diff

[sinful orbit]

Isn’t crit doing like 29 and shit

[clever path]

yeah thats just like the top 1%

[lapis lion]

it's more so that warriors do pretty decent prio damage while a lot of other specs have to opt out of more ST for aoe

[noble elm]

Our problem is utility anyway, not damage

[cosmic lance]

I've had keys where i can beat BM hunters/DHs, but they're usually just not playing very well if that's the case

[fading sky]

Well its both

[final birch]

Ye multi 100 parser doing 29

Wooo

[dire vigil]

That makes a lot of sense

[calm barn]

💯

[past pivot]

By your logic, you shouldn’t be doing 25 keys since you claim warriors aren’t doing well at all.

[final birch]

Fotm is doing 31

[neon nacelle]

Exactly

[summer quail]

it's definetely both. if we did enough damage we would get taken. damage is more important than utility

[fading sky]

Any1 can b carried by better specs

[noble elm]

No, it’s not

[modest condor]

yes it is

[calm barn]

It’s both but the fact warrior has existed this xpac without any utility is wild

[past pivot]

So you’re getting carried? Confirmed.

[polar valley]

A question, I know that the tier set stacks should be spent with Blood Bath but if I'm in a situation where I still have 1 stack, don't have enough rage for a rampage and neither slam nor execute available, what is more recommended? Should I keep doing autoattack and Whirwind until I reach 80 rage or should I use a Bloodthirst?

[summer quail]

it 100% is. if we did 2x the damage of another spec ofcourse we would get taken

any day

[fading sky]

Axe ofc?

[modest condor]

just send the bloodthirst

[dire vigil]

Just give warriors bloodlust, 8 target meat cleaver, and we’ll be off to the races

[dense elbow]

Always press BB :)

or BT

[modest condor]

also whirlwind has a cooldown so you cant spam it

[hasty path]

[fading sky]

Unless i outplay em. Which i do if pugs

[hasty path]

7 31s done? Warrior is dead

[dense elbow]

rip warrior

was a good run

[noble elm]

That’s a dumb argument, because we would need to do an absurdly high amount of dps more than other melee to get taken to high level meta

[modest condor]

meta times 31, warrior times 30

cant believe warrior is dead

[final birch]

Nah warrior is good

[hasty path]

Dead class bro

[final birch]

Its not shit

[hasty path]

Uninstall

[sinful orbit]

Delete class

[final birch]

Never said that

[dense elbow]

we at 30 now? Neato

[jade ocean]

It is A tier due to popularity not for dps. It is mid lower.

[nova garnet]

Doomer moment

[fading sky]

I guess roidberg =roidstack

[hasty path]

I miss him

[noble elm]

Naw that’s someone else

[summer quail]

even doing 20% more than any other we would get played

[noble elm]

20% is an absurd amount lol

[fading sky]

Or being exeptional at 5 target cleave

[summer quail]

don't insult roidstack like that

[fading sky]

Truw

He was real

[noble elm]

I’m just saying utility is super important and if we had some, we’d be in a great place

[dense elbow]

We got some

[hasty path]

99 parsing heroic 8x a day 💪

[noble elm]

A far better place than we’d be if we had 20% damage

[summer quail]

utility is important. it's just not as important as damage

[sinful orbit]

We have the utility we just need a better general talent for warr

[fading sky]

Nah 20% dmg trumps

Every day

[sinful orbit]

A lot of the shit on the talent tree should be baseline

[noble elm]

I disagree, unless we’re talking about community perception in that case I agree yes damage is more important

[polar valley]

Thanks

[dense elbow]

[fading sky]

We still have shockwave rally and sb

[dense elbow]

SR

[summer quail]

that is fine, you can disagree all you like

[fading sky]

If we did 20% more dmg jesus🤣

[dense elbow]

20% more dam, and we would be equal to others, no?

[mighty rover]

What's our best dps food currently? Is it still deviously? Or some haste crit food?

[dense elbow]

at least that is what ppl say

[fading sky]

With leggo. Above🤣

Nonleggo enjoyer though so...

[dense elbow]

If only Lego was powerful enough :v

[lunar cape]

Would be around the top with dh and rogue ya

[sinful orbit]

I feel like they should give us Ishout berserker rage baseline

[past pivot]

If we had the same utility as other classes, say a bloodlust, there’s still no reason to pick warrior over another class for meta.
Either we need a unique utility like group immunity via shout or something or just more damage, especially in multi-target.

[dense elbow]

Berserker rage should be baseline, agreed, improved should be a talent

Fearless is very core Fury

[cosmic lance]

A lot of our baseline utility that was actually really nice to have is now talent points that are difficult to afford

[vestal ice]

Bloodlust, dispell, cleanse, aoe silence, immunity, shroud, displacement, root, those are top tier utility and we have none of them or utter shit version of them

[sinful orbit]

Or something like intervene

[past pivot]

Piercing howl should be baseline.

[sinful orbit]

True

[vestal ice]

And some is saying we have utility lol

[cosmic lance]

Piercing howl was insane for helping tanks kite

Best AoE slow in the game at one point

[dense elbow]

Piercing, huh, I remember using that a lot - now I havent even looked at the talent

[fading sky]

Shockwave just need to be moved up and give us proper capstone

[dense elbow]

Shockwave is fine as is, with how the tree is currently. It is a minor DPS loss for an AoE short CD stun

[sinful orbit]

Dude avatar should also be baseline

[fading sky]

Sb base shockwave at that spot

[sinful orbit]

Every spec just has to go that route for it

[fading sky]

I disagree

[lunar cape]

It's fine until you look at any other aoe stun in any other class that gets it not as a capstone

[dense elbow]

I disagree to your disagree

[fading sky]

Exactly the point

[cosmic lance]

It's also just objectively worse than both chaos nova and leg sweep im pretty sure

[vestal ice]

Make improved shockwave which stuns and then knocksback every 2 secs for 6 secs

[sinful orbit]

They should make it so it does real damage

[dense elbow]

Sure, I can play with that as a node expansion on shockwave - but that would rough to get without actual dps loss.

[fading sky]

Trying to make shockwave a dmg talent is thw failure here

[summer quail]

worse than leg sweep. equal to chaos nova. same duration and chaos nova costs resources

[vestal ice]

Lol no one will ever take u in a 26 for dmg

[cosmic lance]

Chaos nova also isnt directional though

[modest condor]

shockwave has shorter cooldown than leg sweep

40s vs 1min

[spiral orbit]

chaos nova also is way eaiser to get

[dense elbow]

Shockwave generates recourses, Nova costs

[modest condor]

shockwave is incredibly easy to get

[dense elbow]

^ hear hear!

[modest condor]

you legit give up 1% dps

[summer quail]

ye true, leg sweep has the longer stun duration but now that i think about it we just use it as a stop anyway

[vestal ice]

The issue if they have rop , cage etc as baseline

[modest condor]

i think it was 1.6% last time i simmed it

[fading sky]

That is not insignificant though

[dense elbow]

0.9% to 1.6% is the numbers that keep coming back

[fading sky]

When we allr3ady do less dmg

[lunar cape]

You also get the 5% stam otw to shockwave which is nice

[modest condor]

yeah but that's an issue with our tuning not with shockwave position

[dense elbow]

Our baseline dam in a key is a whole different issue, than the oppertunity cost in the tree

[cosmic lance]

Don't get me wrong you're 99% trolling if you're not taking shockwave for keys

[warm crag]

go back to 3 choice talent trees so i dont have to pick between dps and util pls ty

[gilded pawn]

real

they were supposed ot make class tree mostly utility

and spec tree mostly damage

that didnt work out

[modest condor]

just remove 70% of throughput talents from the class tree

[clever path]

look at mage tree

and then look at our

[sinful orbit]

Class tree ist just basically the same for all specs

[dense elbow]

Remove Avatar, spear, roar and replace it all with utility. Move the power into Odyn's Fury.

[clever path]

avatar is fine

it should be there

justn ot behind

2 armored to the teeth

[modest condor]

things like sidearm, barbaric training, siesmic, crushing, none of them have to exist

[clever path]

^

[deft thicket]

Do you think guys we need a change or an extra support spec as warriors or fury?, i mean all the classes have a kind of utility but we dont have so much.. i really love this class and spec and not gonna change for fotm etc but i was just wondering

[sinful orbit]

Avatar should be baseline

[fading sky]

Agree to these

[modest condor]

avatar can be baseline

remove spear

move roar to spec tree

[dense elbow]

Avatar almost could be where Dstance is, based on how freaking hardlocked it is in.

[nova garnet]

I like spear

[clever path]

add mainstat personal banner

[nova garnet]

Like, it's one of the more fun abilities 😦

[sinful orbit]

Yeah

[sonic magnet]

I want old bloodbath :^)

[nova garnet]

Move it higher in the tree

[ornate gust]

Now, it is time to ignore mechanices and zugzug

[sinful orbit]

Imagine seeing a warr without avatar dude

[clever path]

yeah spear fucken sucks

[nova garnet]

So it's actually gotten

[gilded pawn]

spear and roar is like the same shit

[nova garnet]

Spear would be nice if it was near top of tree

[fading sky]

Fuck spear give the aftershock!

[nova garnet]

So choices were less painful

[gilded pawn]

except roaris easier to use

[clever path]

personal mainstat banner

aftershock

[nova garnet]

Avatar with mountain thane

[frank dawn]

I'm pretty sure like every single class in the game has talents on the class tree that literally everyone takes, even at the bottom

[sinful orbit]

I feel like they added spear for pvp reasons

[clever path]

give spear like a 20yd range

[past pivot]

Give us Heroic Leap as baseline. Add a new talent. Deflection.
Make it a melee version of spell reflection.
Then can tune intervene so both spell reflection and deflection work on you and your target.
There’s your unique utility.

[frank dawn]

I don't think that is that big of a deal, but other throughput talents could cetainly go away

[clever path]

remove the damage and put it up somewhere up

[gilded pawn]

oooh i block 1 auto with deflection

poggers

[sinful orbit]

Or just straight up make it a pvp talent

[cosmic lance]

Spear feels odd being in the warrior tree. Most everything else in there is stuff that has been around for warrior for ages, then spear was just thrown in as an option it feels like

[sonic magnet]

Fuck that warrior already has too many good pvp talents that would suck

[nova garnet]

https://classic.battle.net/war3/human/units/mountainking.shtml

[modest condor]

to be fair a lot of things dont need to be baseline

[nova garnet]

Are you ready for this

[clever path]

we need archi here

maybe he can tell the devs

[modest condor]

the talent tree also replaces the unlocks you got from lvling before they reworked

[sinful orbit]

In to deep

[dense elbow]

Don't think Archi can push more than he already tried, really

[sinful orbit]

Another thing they should definitely change and this mostly an arms thing ,
Remove parry pls

[dire vigil]

Play with RB and Ravager because tier sets are easy mode

[sinful orbit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1056761044703395840/1184987818288754688/cats-rice-hat.gif?ex=658df8e7&is=657b83e7&hm=b50ad9b5eafbe821fca51d6db7d05224726a6aa58013d578deba2a686c2dc5a6&

[frank dawn]

how parry still exists in the modern game blows my mind

imagine how fast that shit would get fixed if spell casters had to deal with it

[modest condor]

"to teach you not to stand in front of bosses" and then they design bosses where you can barely see where the front is or where the strategy requires you to stand in front for large portions of the fight

[fading sky]

This

[modest condor]

like all of sarkareth p2

yeah let me stand behind the boss

oh i got sent down

[frank dawn]

it's an ancient mechanic that has no place in the game today

[modest condor]

"no sorry i cant bait the frontal i have to stand behind the boss so i dont get parried, blizzard told me that's how i have to play"

[sinful orbit]

Dude missing CS as arms feels like nothing you do after that point matters

[fading sky]

100%🤣

[modest condor]

actual 20th century game design

[dense elbow]

Ngl, when I see that parry show on my BB, I kinda just want to reset the boss

I feel just robbed

[cosmic lance]

They used to just make the boss a dragon with tail swipe and fire breath to make you stand where they wanted you

[hasty path]

Parry

[cosmic lance]

None of this parry trash

[hasty path]

https://youtu.be/IHEWfuAV1fg?si=FYBzVvQWcCvQZWLR

Never forget

[sinful orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133

[hasty path]

The audible heavy breathing kills me

[final birch]

Soaking on smolderon…

And getting cs parried

[warm crag]

fyrakk is great

[final birch]

[clever path]

crazy to think that just 10 levels we went from 20k dps to 300k dps

and in bfa we were 60 levels higher with less dps

[dense elbow]

Legion DPS

[sinful orbit]

We are going to hit legion numbers again soon

[frank dawn]

gonna pass legion numbers, easily imo

[dense elbow]

[hasty path]

I wish they would slow down scaling

[modest condor]

how much dps were we doing at the end of legion?

[cyan flume]

I assume bloodcraze is consumed on successful crit, yes?

[gilded pawn]

i mean

levels are insane

[clever path]

i absolutely hated going from bfa to SL with the level squish, it felt so bad

[dense elbow]

In exe phase?

[modest condor]

because there's a stat squish coming after next expansion

[hasty path]

Shadowlands numbers were pog

[frank dawn]

wasn't it like 2.5 million in Antorus

[hasty path]

Take me back to 100k in aoe being nuts

[sinful orbit]

Think closer to 3

[hasty path]

Once you’re in the millions it’s just goofy and feels meaningless

[dense elbow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hMqvb8QiUk

[modest condor]

fated will probably push us somewhere between 350-400k i guess

[dense elbow]

this makes me happy every single time

[frank dawn]

yeah depending on the fight my logs from Antorus are 2.5-2.9 mil

[modest condor]

and then we have a whole other expansion to inflate numbers more

[frank dawn]

I'm really curious to see what they do with season 4

just in like...all kinds of ways

[sinful orbit]

Eyo after we are doing classic numbers

[frank dawn]

I think it will be interesting lol

[dense elbow]

Hopefully, just some smoll buff to our dam

[cosmic lance]

Blizzard probably is too

[frank dawn]

LUL

[hasty path]

I’m gonna guess it will involve some sort of TWW prelude

Like

Thematically

[sinful orbit]

Bring back classic with 28 warrs in a 40 man

[frank dawn]

I just meant like with ilvl growth, and dinars, or whatever other systems they do this time around

[dense elbow]

Dinar will be in, gear will be broken, we will still... scale with gear

[cosmic lance]

I'd assume you'll get a normal fated seaon, then a few weeks of pre-patch ridiculousness

Where nothing is balanced because its not supposed to be

[dense elbow]

We get some dmg amp affixes

"stand in orb, everyone gain 30% more dam", stuff is likely - as fun is hopefully the way

not "stand in orb, or everyone loses 30% dam"

[north walrus]

@wet notch thrinket dropped from fyrakkk but dident win the roll.... so took the one from vault

[sudden mango]

in logs, does dancing blade's buff to autos get logged as odyns fury damage? Trying to compare myself and figure out why my odyns fury damage is so low compared to others in a fight where I was running titanic rage

[edgy widget]

How would it?

It increases the damage and speed of autos, has no impact on OF

[gilded pawn]

that means you are using it at worse times

[edgy widget]

Well the damage of OF with DB should be lower than with TR

[gilded pawn]

well he said he was running TR and he was getting beaten by DB is my understanding

[edgy widget]

Lots of reasons for that, when you use it, how you use it, # times it’s used, your stats

[sudden mango]

I was just asking if it was a possibility, just trying to figure it out. Ive already identified that two small talent changes and could run different phial + trinket on gnarlroot for generally better cleave. But the difference is huge even though my timings line up pretty well with top parses throughout the fight so idk what im doing wrong

[cosmic lance]

Are you pressing it when you're not enraged?

[sudden mango]

Im comparing my stats, gear, cast times, talents, etc. on a heroic gnarlroot fight. My general rotation doesnt seem to be atrocious and Im 482 ilvl but my damage is still way lower than others with similar stats/kill times, etc

in that fight I was running TR so it was always enraged

at least thats my understanding of TR

[cosmic lance]

Yeah if you're running titans it is always enraged

If its significant then its either better uses or more uses

Just have to look at number of hits etc

[gilded pawn]

why not just link 2 logs

and let us look

link>1000 words

[lunar cape]

On Heroic gnarly you can run into the problem of your allies out dmging on the adds. So there is less up when yours CDs are going off or they are dying too fast to get max value

[wet notch]

Ahh shoot! well ggs either way man!

[north walrus]

yeah 😄 chance on mythic gnarlroot weap next mythic raid 😄

[edgy widget]

Yeah esp on heroic that’s the likely answer - just raw # of adds being hit and how fast they’re blowing up

[serene charm]

Worth spending aspect crest on weapon?

[cosmic lance]

You can sim that to see for yourself

But likely yes

[ornate gust]

If I use Vantus Rune, does my vers stat increase in Char Info window?

[past pivot]

Not really. Too many options available.

Via raid and vault and keys.

[ornate gust]

❤️

[serene charm]

2H options u mean?

[olive wraith]

To craft?

Or upgrade

[past pivot]

Yes. This is fury channel. Only 2handers matter

[serene charm]

craft

[paper temple]

When you pull the boss, yes

[olive wraith]

Crafting no

[serene charm]

ye mb i just meant weap HAHA

dont know why i specified

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[past pivot]

Oh. Yes. Upgrade weapons with aspects. Don’t craft with sparks.

[serene charm]

Alr i got my embellished cloak/wrist so I guess I just spend them elsewhere where it's needed

[edgy widget]

Upgrading absolutely, crafting is a diff story

[serene charm]

Yessir

[olive wraith]

Ring is a decent choice

Or other pieces you could use the ilvl

[edgy widget]

Sparks depends on how likely you can get a weapon drop

[past pivot]

Ring is a good choice. Socket. Flavor pocket and good stats.

[edgy widget]

At this point in the patch, you should have excess sparks though

[serene charm]

I have 1 spark :3

[olive wraith]

Then you can’t do weapon

lol

[cosmic lance]

Have you spent the others or just haven't earned them yet?

[serene charm]

I was dumb enough earlier in the season to craft a weapon

so I got one

I have spent them

[olive wraith]

Oh

[serene charm]

my thought was recrafting it and adding the aspect crest to it

[olive wraith]

Your crafted wep isn’t aspect?

[serene charm]

so its 483

[olive wraith]

Recrafting would be fine

If you spent the spark

[serene charm]

Ye

[clever path]

🫃

[serene charm]

Without the spark

Just aspect

[wanton mirage]

Is there anyway to get droptimizer to include shadowflame patch craft? I am lazy to add things in gear compare

[edgy widget]

No

Use gear compare

[olive wraith]

It’s like the same

[edgy widget]

Or top gear

[clever path]

archi what do you think we need to be competetive

untility, damage, etc

[olive wraith]

A third 2h

[hasty path]

[clever path]

my warrior does have a third sword

[ornate gust]

Thanks

[edgy widget]

Nerf DH

[clever path]

do you have any pull with the devs

[olive wraith]

A third sword slot

First class to have a mouth piece

[clever path]

leggo next week

100%

[dense elbow]

At best I can give you a 50/50

[upper wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-one-piece-sword-epic-gif-17912030

[upper wigeon]

I didnt even get a single Lesser this week

[quaint stag]

big trinkets, finally got the augury

[loud locust]

hey how do i become higher rank in this server?

[wet notch]

😮 oooo that would be sick af!

[wet notch]

You don't want that responsibility. lol

[loud locust]

whats wrong with being higher rank?

[sour frigate]

Boost it lol

[eternal sundial]

There's being a mod and being a paycow

[north walrus]

yes it would 😄

[summer quail]

you can nitroboost the server ig

[dapper goblet]

you cant trust a single yellow name in this discord

[summer quail]

real, especially that xantaclaus guy

[wild mural]

im doing 0 dps tonight

[olive wraith]

Red names don’t really get anything extra

[wild mural]

it feel slike I've got like 150 ping

[pale trout]

Heya frens, on mythic Tindral is it any worth it to put a point in the 1 minute Thunderous roar or the 1min30 one is enough ?

[dapper goblet]

i've not killed it on warrior but feel like you probably dont want to desync roar

unless theres maybe a root set that doesnt die fast enough and no one has cds for it

[wet notch]

If you’re talking about admin level kinda rank that’s a shit load more responsibility. But if you wanna pay off a placebo rank go for it

[clever path]

to what

[summer quail]

i guess he wants to be yellow rank

[nova garnet]

1. Be good, consistently.
2. Be active in the community.
3. Have a proven track record of good advice, and log reviewing.

Now repeat for a few years.

[olive wraith]

Yellow drimus 2030

[dapper goblet]

so how is xan yellow

[olive wraith]

[south kayak]

[clever path]

werent you yellow before Xeos?

[dapper goblet]

sure was

now i can call arms dev bad without getting in trouble

[eternal sundial]

Remeber to trinket check him daily

[south kayak]

Yeah he was but then he just became more and more tomfoolery

[modest condor]

[dapper goblet]

he cries about the lego weapon...

he got it first week..

hate him

[clever path]

i like Xeos

[olive wraith]

Wheelchair

[dapper goblet]

😊

[warm crag]

@dapper goblet how is the xeos buck economy

[eternal sundial]

Trinket check is fragile 230 sim mental

[clever path]

only person here thats sometimes mean is Banezi

[summer quail]

nah benzai is too wholesome

[dapper goblet]

@warm crag you are still negative xeos bucks

[clever path]

...

Warrior drip

unlocked

[wild mural]

why do I even play without WF

[oblique trail]

I'm mean to those who deserve it

[south kayak]

Surly rank one with wft

[clever path]

i get it, i see you answering the same 5 questions everyday lol

[wild mural]

i feel like Im lagging without it

[warm crag]

banezi has ripped me into 29 trillion pieces because i didnt manage to protect his furnace stack from biters

[wild mural]

I hate playing without it

[summer quail]

don't worry syi, it's only 10k dps

🙂

[wild mural]

[oblique trail]

I will bite your extremely hard the next time you do this

No more warnings

[dapper goblet]

[wild mural]

I suck

[nova garnet]

Kinda yeah

Come play on NA

We can game together

[summer quail]

tell your guild to stop padding on spears so you can pad on them

[sudden mango]

My log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8z7fF4jYMRq3CTrb#fight=4&source=7&type=summary
Top 10 log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/thXmk29BQjTzM6ZW#fight=51&source=29&type=summary

just wasnt sure if it was okay to randomly drop logs in here

[modest condor]

yeah you can link anything fury related when you're asking for help

[rugged wedge]

Ofc greater ember and pala ran off with augury

[forest owl]

no axe again lets gooo

[mild kraken]

Can anyone confirm that the mythic + title cutoff is 2800 rn on Raider io?

[summer quail]

absolutely no shot it's 2800

[modest condor]

i mean that's what it says on rio but that's not the real number

[mild kraken]

I know I’ve just never seen it break like that

[modest condor]

i think it broke on new year

[flat river]

i had 2.5k gold

i deathrolled 8k

i won

xd

if i lost idk but im built different

[wild mural]

i wish

just no wft

[hasty path]

8k pog

[young swan]

so we're lying for fun now

[oblique trail]

I'd lie about you any day if you asked me to Xan <3

[dapper goblet]

i dont lie

[young swan]

2nd week

btw

not 1st

technically 3rd week if u wanna be aids

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/watchout-badass-neildegrassetyson-gif-5031973

"lego is bad"

-does 25mil dam in a key-

(buffed today)

[rugged wedge]

Does anyone know if we can get aug from the weekly event cache?

[young swan]

no reason you shouldnt be able to

[civic niche]

Guys, help me with choosing trinkets, which ones are better? [Might of the Ocean][Accelerating Sandglass][Cataclysmic Signet Brand]
Which combination do you think is best?

[wild mural]

trying to parse when we have to hold dps

forever

blue

[errant vessel]

Why’re you holding dps

[wild mural]

cause our transistion is bad as fuck

idk why we can't get it right

[young swan]

that makes no sense

[wild mural]

but I cba to parse anymore without wft

[young swan]

u just push before a charge or immediately after one

[hasty path]

You should only have to hold for like

3sec at most

[wild mural]

we dont

[hasty path]

Ye this

[wild mural]

idk why

i think ppl are just padding

[hasty path]

You can’t push while he’s in fire

[wild mural]

and not doing dps

on boss

[hasty path]

There’s nothing to pad

What

The adds die in 5sec

[dire badge]

bros still fighting launch kt 💀

[wild mural]

i dont know man

i dont get it either

[young swan]

thats a find a new guild angle man

[hasty path]

6:30 farm kill time is wild

[wild mural]

my fucken brain is hurting from playing without wft

[hasty path]

We took 6:30 on prog

[dire badge]

1 min hold yeah im offing myself

[wild mural]

idk im forever blue on that boss

[hasty path]

If you’re holding like that yeah lmao

Actually makes no sense

[young swan]

genuinely dont know how you hold more than like 5-10s on that boss

[wild mural]

me neither

i cba to figure it out

[hasty path]

Like

[wild mural]

I dont care enough

[young swan]

unless if ur holding for people to clear fire

[wild mural]

soon tindral prison

[hasty path]

They can do that during transition tho

[dire badge]

1000 pull arc incoming

[hasty path]

That’s what we do

[young swan]

but then its just ur fire fighters being stupid

[wild mural]

that's a rope angle

[hasty path]

we’re finally starting tindral this week

Took last 2 weeks off from prog

[wild mural]

tbf I dont think we even kill smolderon this week

[hasty path]

Hoping for nerfs + holiday roster boss

[mild kraken]

How do I get to parsing in the 90s on mythic? Usually always end 80-88s? Looking to step my game up even further.

[hasty path]

Post a log and people can tell you

[plush ice]

I mean, we held dps until 3ish weeks ago

[hasty path]

Usually it comes down to press buttons more and better

[hasty path]

Ok but why

We’ve never held ever

[plush ice]

Because we didn't have the dmg to do the end wo lust

[hasty path]

Other than like 2-5sec

[hasty path]

🤨

[mild kraken]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/malganis/roshmaboe

[plush ice]

The end is trivial if you have lust and 3min held, so prog was pretty easy

[mild kraken]

Flame me plz

[plush ice]

Then we did that sane strat for a few weeks

[hasty path]

Pugs lmao

[plush ice]

Then we tried to just hero at the rip and go for it, and then after like 5 2 percent wipes we went back to holding

And then the week after we had the dmg so no hokd

[dire badge]

Tell him to go DH

[sullen tendon]

bro we bricked key cause tank was ass and died to tree boss its not warriors fault

[dire badge]

since we’re being optimal

[plush ice]

But if you're in a guild that didn't kill it awhile ago you might not have the dmg and need to hold

[sullen tendon]

ive been trying arms and it just cant keep up in damage

maybe if theres like a trilion mobs

but even inwaycrest i still do like 50k more as fury

im probably playing wrong also tho

[hasty path]

Overall isn’t everything

[final birch]

Fury has really good prio too

[sullen tendon]

i figured arms would be good for waycrest cause immunity to soulthorns + sweeping strikes for soulthorns on others

[hollow elk]

I mean how the DPS looked like?

[sullen tendon]

but we were ahead on time

im just doing prior damage

then tank left in embarassment after getting smacked by tree boss

[hollow elk]

Was this like a 25 or something

[sullen tendon]

23

[clever path]

sir, this is wendys, not the arms channel

[open prairie]

honestly keys feel undertuned this season

besides like high tyran fall bosses

[sullen tendon]

a lot of bosses are fucked on tyanical this season because they have damage increases

[hollow elk]

I mean overall was low as fuck but how was the tree boss dmg

[sullen tendon]

especially everbloom

2 bosses with assloads of health that doesnt scale good in m+

doing 4 min witherbarks because you arent running 3 arcane mages

[open prairie]

mages flying under the radar

as usual

[sullen tendon]

first phase of last boss on brh is also fucked

random shadowbolts smacking people for 95% of their health on high keys

[open prairie]

that was a thing in legion too

that bolt was always a cheek clencher

[young swan]

nightmare bolt

[sullen tendon]

just spell reflect itbro

[indigo quarry]

thats why we had Prydaz

my beloved

[hasty path]

Just don’t die

5head

[open prairie]

meant the single shadowbolt that goes out before ravencrest buffs you

[sullen tendon]

prydaz lmao

[warm crag]

spellreflect to onetap the dreadlord

[errant vessel]

Sporecloak angle

[open prairie]

me when someone kicks the reflect cast going on me in everbloom

[sullen tendon]

if one class is capped at 5 targets all classes should be capped at 5 targets

[young swan]

no

[sullen tendon]

yes

[young swan]

wrong

[open prairie]

enh is 6 arent they

[sullen tendon]

right

if i suffer everyone else must suffer

[young swan]

literally objectively wrong

[dire badge]

send this guy back to slands

[young swan]

personally i like flavor and texture and would prefer every class to not be a homogenous mass

[hollow elk]

I have a spell reflect macro. That says blocking next cast don't int would help of people read lol

[sullen tendon]

whats the point of playing warrior if arms sucks and fury is target capped while every other class and spec has a niche and some form of uncapped aoe

[young swan]

they just need to do a much better job of balancing the classes that are capped

[hollow elk]

Okay I can agree with that but warriors need lust tho

[indigo quarry]

remember Legion when everyone was uncapped

[sullen tendon]

it wont matter if we get a 100% buff to rampage or odysn fury when fire mages and dhs are blasting 40 mobs at once

[indigo quarry]

everything was broken

[young swan]

if we are 5 target capped, we should be INSANE at 5 target

[mild kraken]

Lust does nothing to make warriors a viable pug option

[hollow elk]

Really ? K

[young swan]

OR they just increase the amount of damage from cleaved abilities?

[sullen tendon]

again that wouldnt matter because we are locked to 5 mobs while other classes can hit all 40 that are pulled

its exponential

[young swan]

thats fine, warrior doesnt need to be "the best" on 40 target pulls lmfao

[sullen tendon]

we get platuaed

[young swan]

we just need to be good in the niche we have

which we currently arent

[sullen tendon]

theres 0 point in bringing us even if we fulfil our niche though lol

unless its a perfect council fight where theres 5 targets up 100% of the time

[open prairie]

enh 6

outlaw 8

[young swan]

theres 0 point in bringing us because we are horribly average damage and dont bring anything special utility wise (aside from SR) to set us apart from the competition

[sullen tendon]

because we have capped aoe...

[young swan]

even it it was uncapped we wouldnt get brought over dh, mage, rogue, aug

wheres the solution now

[sullen tendon]

no one is bringing warriors becuase anything beyond 25+ requires big pulls and warriors are useles scompared to other classes that can do uncapped

[hollow elk]

Lust class would at least give us another slot to bid for

[hasty path]

You’re overvaluing raw Dps

[tepid shore]

We have no utility and lose in st dmg vs havoc and rogue most of the time. aoe cap or not.

[mild kraken]

I’m hearing copium

[young swan]

lust would absolutely help ur deluding urself if u think it wouldnt

[hasty path]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-tbc-fury-warrior-dont-gif-24721432

[hollow elk]

Bringing lust battle shout and rc would make us look in a better light 100%

[hasty path]

Rally in keys

[mild kraken]

Why do we need lust if we have an aug in our group

[wild mural]

real

[open prairie]

i rmemeber someone mentioning

[young swan]

warrior's #1 issue is public perception, if you dont think that lust helps that ur a clown

[tepid shore]

True.

[open prairie]

dh darkness

yeah that 5min cd

v useful

[tepid shore]

The perception is utility, our utility is very mediocre.

[hasty path]

https://tenor.com/view/skibiridob-demonhunter-gif-27712674

[jolly mist]

BOOOM

[open prairie]

too many annihilates on aoe

[jolly mist]

week 2

lego

lesgoooo

[open prairie]

should say immo aura

[tepid shore]

Gz

[open prairie]

also where is felrush lmao

[hasty path]

Brother I didn’t make the gif

I typed demon hunter into gif search

[open prairie]

dh is so cooked tbh

459 alt

250k brh

lmfao

[hasty path]

That shit is probably like 4 years old

[open prairie]

nah sigil of flame is new to df

[tepid shore]

New Warrior Rework in the works guys

[oak peak]

Need to give warriors banners back. Just change em a bit and give us some unique group CD with em. Just hard to make that not annoying lol

[warm crag]

i am a clown

shit i was replying to something old

[hollow elk]

[warm crag]

im not replying to the message it looks funnier that way

[oblique trail]

You are a clown

There is no cure

[hollow elk]

🤡

[warm crag]

Silence

i will vendor the bow

[oblique trail]

The creator of the bow will cry tears of sadness for an infinite amount of time

[young swan]

benzai

hi

[oblique trail]

xentago

hi

[young swan]

how are u

[oblique trail]

not good

[young swan]

holy poggers

[oblique trail]

Afflicted week broke me

[young swan]

gg

play ww

[oblique trail]

Gotta take matters into my own hands

[young swan]

heard its pretty cool rn

[oblique trail]

I will once geared

[tardy lark]

afflicted week broke him, so he plays healer

🤡

[wraith maple]

warriors need to complain like warlocks do

too many gymbro stocism havers

[oblique trail]

shut up rogue playing ass during prog ass looking ass

[tardy lark]

This place has been literally nothing but complaining since 10.2 PTR

[young swan]

funny u mention this ive been debating making a video crying about warrior talents for like a week (nobody knows who i am i just want to scream into the void)

[tardy lark]

🗡️

[mild kraken]

Jeventes already did that

[wraith maple]

peak the warlock discord, theyre top deck raid and above average m+ and you'd think based off their discord theyve been relegated to pariah status

[oblique trail]

Jeventes also made a video about how Warrior is weak in raid (it's good)

[wraith maple]

its insane

[mild kraken]

True

[open prairie]

play ret if you wanna do affixes

[hasty path]

Average caster main

[open prairie]

[oblique trail]

I'm not touching pink class

[hasty path]

Mages melt down every time they don’t have the best spec in the game for more than a week

[open prairie]

average caster main is an external eddy

[covert void]

my mate just got leg on his alt warrior, doesn't even use it, play it and won't. Just wanted the transmog lmao

[open prairie]

“can i get summer beacon pi”

[young swan]

yeah but im north american so people will actually listen