fury

[summer quail]

sockets own

[coarse nest]

adding socket from my vault gives over 1k haha

[covert sierra]

my offhand is 483 gorehowl.
Does demonbane actually sim and thats why two different 489 weapons aren't considered an upgrade?

[warm crag]

please do not might avatar macro

[still ibex]

Socket in general is worth more than 1k when we are simming ~230

[covert void]

Explain? hasn't there pretty much always been a warrior burst macro with trinkets on use.

[summer quail]

did you actually sim the weapons as 489? coz they are 483 in vault

[warm crag]

yeah except fro this warrior iteration where avatar isnt the literal first button you want to tpress

[covert void]

This season needed splitting, because of OF and Reck needing to be at the start but ye

[warm crag]

at least macro it to reck

[covert void]

Oh, I only use the avatar burst macro for 2nd burst etc. where it all lines up

oh it is

[summer quail]

if you want to be optimal just press the trinket

[covert void]

I get it, was replying to him

[summer quail]

ye fair

[covert void]

appreciate the help though

ofc

[thorny cove]

https://i.imgur.com/DnWjfHe.png

no way I don't take might, right?

[warm crag]

this is a 2k gold vault

[fallen ginkgo]

I would, no hesitation

[nocturne dragon]

I think I will have to take that raven sword right?

[olive wraith]

What weps do you have now

[thorny cove]

oof if only myth track gorehowl

[sage ridge]

I am running Might of the Ocean and Rezan's Gleaming Eye. Would it be worth to take the Signet Brand from the vault and use it over Rezan?

[covert sierra]

yes I did.

[hasty path]

I recommend reading the wowhead article about brand if you’re wanting it for keys

[nocturne dragon]

thingy from gnarlroot heroic 4/6 upgrade (476), then the smolderon sword normal 8/8 (476)

[restive peak]

489 Ravencrest neck, at least it's BIS...just crafted neck though RIP lol

[summer quail]

link the sim

[covert sierra]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cvztD8tP2NGHV2DBuMWLgG

[sage ridge]

I know it is really reliant on uptime but not sure whether or not it would be worth it

[olive wraith]

Probably the max ilvl sword then

[nocturne dragon]

yeah that raven is 1/4 upgrade, I'll replace the 476 sword.

[eternal sundial]

Offhand ilvl isnt big and stats favor ghowl ig

[proper peak]

My last vault before I go on vacation for 2 weeks, surely it will bless me with greatness

[nocturne dragon]

screenshot it zannus

[eternal sundial]

Missread the Q fixed reply

[iron portal]

Yes

[proper peak]

last 5 vaults have been tier slots

[summer quail]

resimming it for you, just wait a bit

[covert sierra]

yeah my trinkets are definitely buttcheeks. I did like 15 ADs last week though 😦

[eternal sundial]

Yea i have same ilvl but sim 10k higher cuz of them

[summer quail]

sim isn't finished yet but i think you just have an ungodly amount of haste so the sim doesn't want you to have more @covert sierra

[eternal sundial]

I will vault 489 socketed vers mast belt tomorrow and be happy

[hasty path]

Bro I’m on the sims 4 how you on the sims 10k

[covert sierra]

its sandglasses fault

[eternal sundial]

Im on sim 241.6 in raid build

[proper peak]

ouch

[eternal sundial]

[olive wraith]

Hot damn my sim is saying earthen writ for oh

I made it gang

[proper peak]

It's blessing me with a socket

[summer quail]

it's not, you have 5300 haste rating. that's a ton

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2CQiGVeXXeuYgLGgok8ozg

@covert sierra

[proper peak]

Maybe I had to sac my vault this week so I can get a leggo axe

[past pivot]

Goaty just needs to get some trinkets.

[glad coyote]

what are the best chances to get the lego do LFR --> normal than heroic?

[covert void]

heroic, adds all chances in.

[eternal sundial]

Mythic > nothing

[summer quail]

definetely need some trinkets. throne weapon and swapping to frozen writ is decently big tho

[eternal sundial]

Or alternatively hc

Someday ill be a frozen writ chad 😔

[summer quail]

hopefully frozen writ pops mid cds on smolderon, big damage

[covert sierra]

So we think I take one of these weapons and let my stats level out? Im nearly done gearing
Im already totally enchanted/gemmed for mastery and vers not haste. I have 66 haste on my primary stat gem, but thats it (and thats just me being lazy)

[sage ridge]

Do you guys recommend using Signet Brand or Rezan in M+ and Raid?

[eternal sundial]

Brand in keys generally stinks

Rezans is mid in all content

Aquire an augury

[glad coyote]

brand in keys is decent if you can keep stacks

[fallen ginkgo]

If you can chainpull brand is okay but otherwhise its meh

[sage ridge]

I guess I will just take the Signet and maintain stacks

[summer quail]

ye that's what i would do, you can also hold your vault til you kill gnarlroot incase it drops there

[sage ridge]

Augury probably isn't happening, I haven't seen it in weeks lol

[glad coyote]

jsut got heroic augyry in vault

supper pumped

[hot girder]

Does it matter if you kill fyrrak on LFR, normal or hc first for drop chance of leggo?

[fallen ginkgo]

Augury in my vault inc

[covert void]

no

heroic is best, as it adds all chances in, from lfr and normal.

well, mythic is best xD but ye

[calm swallow]

If you kill it on HC you can't get additional chances by killing it on LFR / N

So basically you can do LFR/N if you want to, but if you can kill it on HC that uses up all the potential of it dropping from LFR and N

[fossil hull]

Just got 2nd weapon to try fury
based on my stats could someone please help with what gems to grab and enchants and maybe recraft stats also

[calm swallow]

is my understanding

[glad coyote]

yeah so you want to kill it on lfr than normal than heroic to have the best chances?

[hot girder]

Can I do 7/8 HC, than kill fyrrak LFR, normal and then come back to Fyrrak hc for best chance?

[calm swallow]

Just kill on Heroic

[covert void]

no

again, heroic adds in the lfr and normal chances

so literally makes no difference

[glad coyote]

gotcua

[calm swallow]

Didn't get my axe today, but I did get a 99 parse on Fyrakk so that's a fun way to start the year

[covert void]

I only kill on normal lfr because you get a chance for the mount skin right? but ye, not for legendary.

[fossil hull]

any help appreciated have been arms whole xpac

[covert sierra]

appreciate the help!
Think Im purposefully sitting a couple mythic bosses this week because I still dont have a signet and I want two heroic vault slots instead of 2 mythic vault slots. We'll probably get to Smolderon this week but dont think we kill it

[hot girder]

Found this really meaningful. So I will do LFR then normal then HC Fyrrak

[warm crag]

this is assuming the blp instantly affects your character not the reset after tho

[frozen lake]

lol

Pure nonsense

[hot girder]

Well we don't know

[warm crag]

we do know

[frozen lake]

We know

[hot girder]

We do?

[frozen lake]

That what that person wrote is bullshite

[hot girder]

Hehe, I wanna know

[naive summit]

yo is it worth waiting for the lesser embers of fyrlath

[eternal sundial]

just loot it xd?

[summer quail]

if possible try to not skip gnarlroot then, never know how many weapons can drop. we got 2 weapons from him last week

[eternal sundial]

Think u do wanna fullclear mythic first generally

[warm crag]

small blp should also only kick in the next reset

[eternal sundial]

I forgor i never read the text

Tbh

[tepid scroll]

I think the strat is normal up to fyrak and heroic full clear

Gives you the best chance to pick up any extra bad luck protection

[olive wraith]

Normal first 8 doesn’t drop blp

[fading sky]

so just

LFR fyrakk

normal fyrakk

full hc reclear

hc fyrakk ?

[olive wraith]

No just do highest difficulty

[fading sky]

fuck that shit

that hasnt worked so far

[kind badge]

Bro just send it on heroic Fyrakk, BLP doesn’t do shit.

[olive wraith]

[rigid stirrup]

okay heres one

do whatever you want

[olive wraith]

Try skipping any raid kills

That’ll really boost your drop chance next week

[eternal sundial]

Worked for me

[fading sky]

just loot it ?

phil

[hasty path]

Have you tried doing a dance

[summer quail]

ye just loot it

[fading sky]

i had gavel on 2 chars

[hasty path]

You do a rain dance to make it rain

[fading sky]

not early but still

[hasty path]

Do a loot dance to make it lootable

[eternal sundial]

I only had with fated

[summer quail]

the trick is to not care if you get it

[hasty path]

https://tenor.com/view/poki-fortnite-dance-tik-tok-gif-22575863

[eternal sundial]

Guess it's okay i get Red stick

[fickle bluff]

wheres my red stick then

[past pivot]

Don’t use either in M+

[rigid stirrup]

27 waycrest in my vault key

I dont wanna get a pvp trinket

[fading sky]

ye so im gettin punished now

😄

[spring crest]

[fading sky]

game has nothing but contempt for u 😭

unless chests has some nice secondary

[covert blaze]

???

[tepid scroll]

That chest can become myth track tier 😮

[hasty path]

??? It’s the loot dance

[hasty path]

Indestructible POG

[fading sky]

haha

[spring crest]

:o

[fading sky]

i got my helmet last week

with the same

every i think

this is week i get augery in vault

and leggo from fyrakk

every week i dont

❤️

[clever path]

feels great being 481 and cant even get invited to a fyrakk normal kek been trying for 30 minutes

[summer quail]

mhm, garantert

[plain fossil]

LFR drops greater ember now?

[fading sky]

! ja præcis

[toxic flare]

Sadness

[fading sky]

or at least 1 of the 5 M+ trinkets id like in 489

[ember apex]

i got socket

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[summer quail]

might of the ocean would be nice

[fading sky]

with leech

might as well be greedy

[ember apex]

and socket

[fading sky]

well id take ember for arms m+

but again im a machocist that players both specs in m+

[olive wraith]

Arms

[ember apex]

"arms m+"

i'd rather slice my nuts off

[fading sky]

i mean its actually quite enjoyable

[olive wraith]

Fury is life

[fading sky]

once u get used to being 1 global from death

everytime theres rot dmg

[olive wraith]

Less damage less survivability

[fading sky]

it doesnt have less dmg

[olive wraith]

Miss me with that

[fading sky]

dmg is quite equal, with arms having adv in some dungeons, fury in others

[hasty path]

The survivability gap is notable though

[fading sky]

VERY fuckin noticable

[olive wraith]

It chooses either low target cleave or aoe pad

Fury just does it all

[fading sky]

nah

[ember apex]

i remember in s2 u could gear for fury and lose less arms dps than if u geared for arms and respecced fury

is that still the case

[fading sky]

fury doesnt do well in big packs

[red yew]

Do both

[fading sky]

ww softcapped at 5 bladestorm at 8

[olive wraith]

But to do well in big packs arms needs to switch to more aoe talents

And it looses st

[ember apex]

they need to fix empowered bloodbath tier cleave and increase cleaved damage from 50% to like 85%

[hasty path]

Fury hard capped at 5

[fading sky]

exactly

so arms has advantage there

[ember apex]

arms doesnt even take bladestorm

[olive wraith]

Of is soft capped

[fading sky]

but in avg M+ 18-22 id play fury

as tanks are pussies anyways

and never live enough for arms

[red yew]

Member when OF was uncapped

[ember apex]

honestly, if we dont get aoe capped lifted we need to demand WW % cleave buffs on forums

become unsufferable

[fading sky]

fury SHOULD have capped

but Deffo should do WAY more on 5 target cleave

[ember apex]

fine cap it but make us 5 target GODS

we should be the undisputed kings of 5 target cleave

[red yew]

Yooo

[ember apex]

yoo

[red yew]

Throwbacks to Primal Council

[ember apex]

how was ur new years mr sausage

[red yew]

Consistent 4 target cleave

Fury bottom tier

[olive wraith]

Tbf our tier was ass

[red yew]

Ye but still

[ember apex]

S1 tier was supposed to be unnoticable for most dps to get u used to new talent trees

[red yew]

Shouldn't have been bottom tier on that fight when considering our design

[ember apex]

which was sm0rt imo

[oblique trail]

The tier being ass or not doesn't have too much to do with us being good or not at 4 target constant cleave

[ember apex]

i agree

[olive wraith]

Idk

If we had s2 tier

We woulda been fine imo

[ember apex]

as long as fury is capped at 5, we should not be beaten on 5 target cleave all things being equal

[olive wraith]

For that fight specifically

[red yew]

You would think Fury should be top tier on 4-5 target consistent cleave

[nocturne dragon]

so we hope a better tier set and the other hero talent (slayer) for The War Within?

[olive wraith]

Or if execute actually did damage

[red yew]

Regardless of tier set

[ember apex]

yeah i would think that actually. b/c that's the argument for capping

[oblique trail]

If the class itself is fun to play and does fine throughput

Then I don't care too much about the tier set and how strong it is

If it also changes how you play around it

[olive wraith]

Oh the playstyle was great

[red yew]

Pile

[oblique trail]

On..

[olive wraith]

It’s just execute was a noodle

[ember apex]

yo did u guys see that video that max put out this weekend about showing up to some random heroic raid as a gift for some kids dad in liquid's discord

[south kayak]

Life sucks

[ember apex]

that's how im gonna pitch myself to my guild. im showing up to raid as a new years gift for you guys... you're welcome.

[south kayak]

Poggers

[ember apex]

did u get a dud vault or what

[nocturne dragon]

Yeah I mean compared to arm's execute, ours is quite ass

kind of carlo, well not entirely dud but oh welp can be better

[olive wraith]

In season 1. Our tier was execute but it did not dmg

[south kayak]

[olive wraith]

Is what I was talking about

[south kayak]

Buff execute

[olive wraith]

It’s fine that arms ex is better. But at least buff ours if it’s the main part of tier

[ember apex]

fury execute should be better than arms execute b/c we're literally hitting twice every time

[south kayak]

True and real

[olive wraith]

Like this tier it’s fine if execute doesn’t hit hard

Since

[unreal cape]

give fury anything

[south kayak]

Is arms execute still stronger than fury

[unreal cape]

utility, dam

we need it

[olive wraith]

Ya

[south kayak]

I mean damage during execute

Not the spell

[ember apex]

im a hard anti-utility advocate

[olive wraith]

Yes

[ember apex]

the only way i'd want utility

[olive wraith]

That’s kind of arms niche

[ember apex]

is if it's proc based

or

off-GCD

otherwise i dont want it

[south kayak]

Guys

[oblique trail]

Arms' Execute is stronger yes, but not by nearly as big of a gap as it was before

[ember apex]

like earfQuake for ele sham

[plush juniper]

Rezan's bleed effect works with Thunderous Word talent right?

[oblique trail]

No

[ember apex]

wait

post a screenshot of the talent

lets read it

hold on

[south kayak]

Guys, I haven’t procced my 5 second aoe stun sorry

[plush juniper]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=384969/thunderous-words

[spare otter]

if i only do fyrakk

[oblique trail]

It doesn't work with it

[molten relic]

rezans bleed isnt ours

its rezans

[spare otter]

does that fill up all heroic vaults?

[molten relic]

[plush juniper]

Ah sad

[oblique trail]

ofc not?

[ember apex]

🤔

[oblique trail]

you killed 1 boss

[south kayak]

Yet he’s dead

[spare otter]

fair enough

cba

[sullen dove]

second socket out of vault

[molten relic]

same

had myth track rezans but

cba- i have a 483 already

[modest condor]

the page you're on literally tells you which abilities are affected by thunderous words

[molten relic]

Will use might augury anyways

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/JXYEx/13d1ee32e4.png

[nocturne dragon]

it never appear on my vault T_T let alone the drop

[ember apex]

yeah i saw it, thats why i stopped trying to say rezans is modified by it

and also reading it tells u

[molten relic]

I dont have might

after 40+ thrones

[ember apex]

"your bleed effects"

[molten relic]

this week surely

Got leggo before might lmao

[ember apex]

its crazy i have prob 4 crabs in my bags

and DE'd like 4 more

0 might

[south kayak]

I have 0 might

[molten relic]

I havent seen either of the 2 trinkets drop

[modest condor]

i got might from the dungeon and then a couple of hours later got it in the vault

[south kayak]

I loathe you

[ember apex]

that's cray

i'd still rather have heroic augury tho]

or signet heroic

[modest condor]

i have heroic augury and heroic signet

[oblique trail]

We're like week 7 into the season

[south kayak]

I have normal augury

[ember apex]

my guild doesnt funnel me nuffin

[oblique trail]

If you don't have a dungeon trinket at this point either you're extremely unlucky or you just have barely done the dungeon

[south kayak]

Do you have axe

[modest condor]

mine doesnt either

no

[ember apex]

actually i made that up i got funneled tier this season b/c ours was the best

[ember apex]

i do have axe but that's old news

its channeled

[south kayak]

I have my bis trinkets on rogue since it’s my main but I barely play warrior

[ember apex]

so not what u expect

[south kayak]

Everyone knows it’s a channel

[ember apex]

i got heroic signet from vault my first DH heroic clear

[oblique trail]

So you've just barely done the dungeon

[ember apex]

actually nasty

[south kayak]

Yeah I’m not mad because I don’t care

[oblique trail]

"I loathe you"

[south kayak]

It wasn’t serious lol

[tardy lark]

I’m just very unlucky in the 10 TotTs I’ve done

[olive wraith]

I’m salty I haven’t got brand or Aug yet

[tardy lark]

Meanwhile 26 BRHs and I haven’t seen weapon or neck

[molten relic]

idk ive done over 40 thrones

and havent seen either of the 2 trinkets drop

[sullen dove]

why do i feel so bad having to do like 4 18's a week for vault

is this the burnout arc

[ember apex]

i know our aug was doing like 50 waycrest until he got his item

[sullen dove]

like even pugging an 18 feels like it takes too long

[tardy lark]

Just do 1

[sullen dove]

just insert the weeks worth of aspect crests into my inventory please

[south kayak]

I guess I’m very unlucky on the 31 runs of fall I did for rogue dagger

(Still don’t have it)

[sullen dove]

ok it seems i will socket my sf bracer

[south kayak]

I am extremely unlucky and mad when it comes to this dagger I’m farming though @oblique trail

[ember apex]

does anyone know the % chance u have to get the mount out of a random M+ run?

on rise

[sullen dove]

only other option is 483 ring but not myth track

prolly the same as its normal droprate which who can know

1% or less

[south kayak]

I got one

I have seen a few too

[ember apex]

its gotta be higher than 1%

[south kayak]

So it’s not that rare

[ember apex]

ive gotten 2 this season

yeah

[south kayak]

What mounts did you get

[sullen dove]

or... people just get lucky

[ember apex]

i got underrot crawg

[sullen dove]

first attempt honyx'ers

[ember apex]

and umm sharkbait

[sullen dove]

shyarkbaitsorrryyyyyy

[south kayak]

Ah I have both of those already

[ember apex]

i started playing wow in shadowlands

so i didnt have BFA mounts

[south kayak]

I got mechagon peacekeeper

[ember apex]

oh sick

[sullen dove]

ive run kings rest like.. 430 times...

still no raptor...

[south kayak]

Which looks to be the rarest one

I cba with raptor

[sullen dove]

psure they're all the same

[south kayak]

I’ll wait for Kr m+

[sullen dove]

doubt they randomly make 1 dungeon mount rarer than the others in the same xpac

kr is ok now since i figure out you can lockout skip straight to third boss

[south kayak]

They are all the same I think

[sullen dove]

makes the run like 2-3 minutes

have like 7 alts parked outside

[south kayak]

But the rise mount is higher

[sullen dove]

still a drag

[south kayak]

Rather farm rise +2

Than KR

[ashen socket]

............

[south kayak]

How is it possible that I still don’t have my bis dagger on my rogue

[wild mural]

how is it possible I dont have augury yet

[ember apex]

💯

[south kayak]

You can’t farm augury

You can farm fall

[olive wraith]

Rise on tyr?

Gross

[wild mural]

still madge

[vocal igloo]

hmm, heroic brand or mythic rezan?

[wild mural]

brand

[south kayak]

Idk sim

[ember apex]

Legendary spell reflector

[tardy lark]

i've done 3 and have 2 daggers

[south kayak]

You suck

[tardy lark]

xd

[south kayak]

Please

Do a fall with me

[oblique trail]

He does but not for that reason

[tardy lark]

[south kayak]

I’ll appreciate it very much if you can come and maybe trade me the dagger

Be

[tardy lark]

doing exam prep, so no can do atm

[south kayak]

I’m at work atm anyway

[calm mantle]

No myth weapon, no augury, another vault full of armor and cloaks

[wild mural]

wagecage

[ember apex]

Sameeee

[frank dawn]

very rare loot is great

we love it

[wild mural]

yooooo some dumbass bought it

[ember apex]

I think the execution is good

[wild mural]

LFR belt

[sullen dove]

[tardy lark]

very carlo take

[south kayak]

I don’t know how someone can do 3 runs of a dungeon and get 2 items I want and I have to do 31 and i still haven’t seen it

[plush juniper]

Damn thats a shame regarding rezans and thunderous words. Thanks all! The trinket from vault was still an upgrade for me either way 😄

[south kayak]

Please kill me

(In game)

[wild mural]

same

[ashen socket]

yep

[tardy lark]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/stormscale/Aagaardnikes

[teal badge]

What you guys think about these vault options?
Myth track tier chest (Up from Heroic), Myth Rezan's or Heroic Signet Brand (Up from Norm)

[south kayak]

I wish you luck with your exams mister

[south kayak]

When are you free to do some runs

[ember apex]

You should sim your options

[tardy lark]

Thanks ^^

[south kayak]

What mythic bosses have you got down

[south kayak]

Nice, I’m outlaw

[teal badge]

we cleared everything up to Nymue, so just missing nym and Smoldy onwards

on Mythic*

[tardy lark]

that was for our Mythic Tswift kill start of december rogue is geared in 1 week

[south kayak]

Kill Numue get chest

[south kayak]

Lmao

Did you shelf it now

[teal badge]

True, and then reclear heroic for signet with a take Rezan's angle - I feel you

[tardy lark]

yup, our other warrior is leaving to join Echo, so im going double warrior

[south kayak]

He is what?

Huge warrior

Bad for you though

[wild mural]

I wish I was that good

[tardy lark]

One of the best players i've played with, so no wonder ^^

why is it bad for me

[south kayak]

sadge

[south kayak]

Idk guild

[wild mural]

the return of Aagardw

[tardy lark]

Aagaardxan is ready for duty

[meager gyro]

my 1 week old mage got it before my warrior

[south kayak]

Why are you using Xan’s name

[tardy lark]

cause thats the warrior Xan told me to level first

or maybe it wasnt Xan, but someone did

[wild mural]

aagard want me to donate you my warrior so you have leggo

[tardy lark]

yes plz

[south kayak]

It was me, Agaardbox

[wild mural]

you are now Aagarduwu

[south kayak]

Human?

[tardy lark]

Cant play vulpera im sorry

ye

[wild mural]

unbelievable

[iron portal]

Humans bis cause rep cheat

[calm mantle]

I'm about to be at 25 haste lol

[tardy lark]

ye human might be useful later on

[wild mural]

oh well

[tardy lark]

so thats why hooman wurriur is chosen

[south kayak]

Humans are bis

[wild mural]

give us aagarduwu

[south kayak]

I think their models own

[tardy lark]

this is the closest you get to aagaarduwu

[south kayak]

And animations

[iron portal]

If I ever come back in going back on my human

[wild mural]

needs more u's

[tardy lark]

i couldnt stand being tauren anymore

[iron portal]

But im conflicted

[ember apex]

me irl btw

[south kayak]

Tauren is huge

[iron portal]

You night even say

There is...war within...me

[wild mural]

i wanna change off dwarf

[south kayak]

Delete

[wild mural]

but idk what

[tardy lark]

The infamous return of Raz

[hasty path]

Me when my tummy hurts

[south kayak]

Earthen dwarf

[steel shard]

then do it?

[tardy lark]

dorf big suck

unless you do Fyrakk

[south kayak]

True

[wild mural]

no

[tardy lark]

then dorf big fuck

[wild mural]

idk what to be tho

[south kayak]

Just dispel

[steel shard]

human

[wild mural]

snooze

[south kayak]

Worsen

Worgen

[wild mural]

ez w

[steel shard]

Human male

with big sword

[tardy lark]

I miss old human animations

[steel shard]

i miss old warrior sound effects

like the ones in classic

[tardy lark]

hard agree

[steel shard]

mortal strike sounds like ass

in retail

[south kayak]

I miss the human jump when you use 2h special abilities

[steel shard]

while in classic it sounds so good

[south kayak]

Even though it’s very unconventional lol

You don’t wanna jump like that in combat

Unless you want your stomach sliced

[steel shard]

yea beause wow is very realistic

[tardy lark]

Must admit, im not thinking of real life combat when i mash buttons in wow ngl

[iron portal]

Only way

[fading sky]

ye and if its RPG game mby add in paladin

[steel shard]

and yet is usualy alwase really good

in any RPG

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[south kayak]

Majority of people are going to choose what they look like

[olive wraith]

My gof

[wild mural]

next week for sure

[south kayak]

Username lives on

It’s rending my dreams

And zhai’s

[iron portal]

What does it say about goblins then

[south kayak]

[iron portal]

[south kayak]

Can’t be goblinophobic in this day and age

[wild mural]

Im not short

[south kayak]

That sounds like cope

Im joking

[steel shard]

tfw cata classic arms warrior feels way better to play than retail

[south kayak]

True and real

Wait what

Cata?

I agree actually lol

Can’t wait for cata

[steel shard]

cata arms is pretty banging

afaik

fury uh

we dont talk about fury

[south kayak]

Lmao

I hear they normalized rage gen for fury so that’s why they got way worse coming from wotlk

I could be talking out of my ass

[sick hull]

can i copy someone's build for this tyr week pls.. ty ty

[iron portal]

Think that was later box

[south kayak]

Cata was the first time arms started to dominate in pve

Before that it was fury

[cosmic lance]

14 plate men in that heroic and not 1 axe 😦

[south kayak]

Should have looted it

[south kayak]

Hmm then what happened in data

Cata

[steel shard]

imagine not having orange stick in wotlk and retail

[south kayak]

Did they just not buff it enough?

[steel shard]

in 4.3 specificly

i just think it got nerfed

a fuckton

[south kayak]

Fury was always owning at last phase

But in data that wasn’t the case

Lol

Cata

[steel shard]

it got gutted afaik

you can do some shit with snapshoting mastery

[south kayak]

Why

[steel shard]

with deathwish before pull

and pog of

just

bad damage

thats it

[covert blaze]

this game is shit

[cosmic lance]

They did rage normalisation in cata yeah

I found the blue post from 2010 about it

[south kayak]

Kill mythic fyrakk

[steel shard]

yea i mean when i crit with a melee swing in wotlk

i get a full rage bar

[south kayak]

Yeah, that makes sense, you had infinite rage in wotlk from weapon damage

[cosmic lance]

Yeah because rage is based on damage

Prior to cata

[south kayak]

But that was normalized to work normally

[cosmic lance]

More damage per swing, more rage

[south kayak]

Yeah

It’s like now

Each hit gives specific rage

In cata

[cosmic lance]

Which is how you get that feedback loop before cata

[south kayak]

But they didn’t buff fury abilities or whatever accordingly

[steel shard]

no

you just dont get ALOT more rage

you still get more

but you dont go from 20 rage per swing to 80

[south kayak]

Yeah it was ridiculous

[cosmic lance]

Its "normalised" factoring in weapon speed, crits still give double rage etc

So a slow weapon still gives more rage per swing

but your overall rage/time is meant to be constant

ish

[steel shard]

you still get more rage with gear

but it just dont feel like complete shit at the start

[spiral oasis]

Any juicy vaults?

[cosmic lance]

Based purely on haste/crit you will yes

[south kayak]

Fury wasn’t that good until mop

[iron portal]

Not sure but normalisation of rage gain might have happened around end of Mist?

[south kayak]

Neeko said it happened in cataclysm

[cosmic lance]

April 2010

They've probably tweaked it since then though

[inland flame]

It was Cata

[cosmic lance]

So it wouldnt shock me if mop had more changes to it

[inland flame]

I remember going from like 20k on Saurfang to 13k with the new rage formula

I think Warr DPS was the worst DPS in Cata prepatch

Or one of the worst

[iron portal]

Then i might be confusing it with something else

[steel shard]

fury

for sure

[iron portal]

Glad there are fact checkers

[steel shard]

prob not arms tho

[south kayak]

They forgor to buff abilities accordingly to the rage nerf

💀

[indigo quarry]

you can literally copy past it for Arms and its still relevant

full circle

[south kayak]

Is that why arms got way better

[cosmic lance]

They played around with weapon normalisation as far back as classic to stop people using 4.0 weapons for arms

[south kayak]

Since it fixed arms having shit rage

[fading sky]

just play the same build every week ? take the st for of and off u go

[steel shard]

arcanite reaper

oooooooo

[atomic nymph]

Cow

[wild mural]

nno

[atomic nymph]

Tbf i went cow and have since spent 95%+ time as a pirate or ninja

[south kayak]

Lol

[inland flame]

I mean the issue of warrs being rage starved at the beginning of xpacs and having infinite rage at the end was one worth fixing

I had a dedicated finger for queueing up Heroic Strike

It was awful

[south kayak]

Yeah but they should have buffed our abilities for it

They just nerfed it for fury

And that was it

[restive peak]

We wait another week 🙂

I'm gonna get it off mythic fyrakk fr

[cosmic lance]

It was like their genius idea of armour pen as a stat

[south kayak]

Oh shit

[cosmic lance]

Just scaled wildly out of control towards the end

[south kayak]

Volcanic and sanguine

Free week

[cosmic lance]

Do dread petals drop sanguine as well?

They bolstered so...

[sullen dove]

uh probably

just move out of it tho

[restive peak]

Sanguine in this dungeon pool is dog water

[sullen dove]

[cosmic lance]

100% you're gonna get aboms and zerkers casting in it

[hardy cargo]

I stand in sanguine to bait the berserkers into it

[sullen dove]

at least sanguine is like a shadow of what it once was

still rly annoying and almost slightly a reason to consider arms over fury but just havoc dh mortal wound everything

still only 1 stack of the pool goin on mobs biiig qol

sanguine in sanguine depths

kaal fullhealing in gauntlet

[cosmic lance]

Its not like it makes the dungeon much harder but its a deceptive timesink

[sullen dove]

yea

if its just handled decent with knockbacks or at the least mortal wounds on mobs its not as bad, but some of the long cast dipshits that dont move is annoying for sure

[molten relic]

3.3.5a

armor pen was goated

[cosmic lance]

Pretty sure end ot TBC it was busted too

Once you could get enough of it, it just eclipsed almost everything

[ember apex]

the problem w/ armor pen was the calculations of it

i watched a video from that era

[inland flame]

I remember PvPing as Prot during Ulduar patch

[cosmic lance]

Yeah, more to do with just how armour works in WoW

[ember apex]

shit was nuts to calculate

[dire vigil]

How much are axe mats now?

[molten relic]

depends on the day

I spent 350k yesterday for 2 of the 3 parts

[inland flame]

Gem ArP and one-shot squishies with a Recklessneed Shield Block Shield Slam

[molten relic]

doing last part today

[inland flame]

Classic

[dire vigil]

Haven’t gotten it yet but I’m just day dreaming

[ember apex]

i spent ~450,000 gold

[molten relic]

200 resonant crystals was 140k that was the worst part I think

for any single mat

[cosmic lance]

Because of the inverse scaling on armour, arp scaled exponentially as you got more so it was just broken

[ember apex]

yeah it was something like that

i just want to see the slayer tree

[sullen dove]

boring ass name

[ember apex]

its about the archetype

[dire vigil]

Anyone want to buy a crimson deathcharger to help me pay for my axe lol?

[ember apex]

slayer = attackspeed/leech

it lets u know what's coming

its descriptive

[fading sky]

wtf does resonant crystals costs on ya server ?

they are like 318g each

[ember apex]

its region

[fading sky]

dno how many u bought man

[inland flame]

Mats are region-wide

[fading sky]

well then eu its not that bad

[ember apex]

im an ench on my warrior and. i barely had any. i bought the full amount when it was ~600g/each

[inland flame]

NA they're like 750 rn

760 on the dot

200 would cost 152k rn

[lavish grove]

[fading sky]

ah well eu 318

i also bought pre week 1 so i spend more like 600k on the mats

but that was just me being stupid

i had 100% faith in lady luck and expected to get it first week it was available for us normies

😄

[loud locust]

hey i was looking at my vault i remember last season i did something in simcraft to help me choose loot in my vault but i forgot how to do so does anybody mind helping me with that?

[molten relic]

also idk if people said this but the weekly from CLarelle- also gives the dreamleaves for the superbloom part of leggo

gave me 38 of them

[sullen dove]

if you have the addon simulation craft you type /simc in game

and copy paste that into raidbots

[molten relic]

basically a whole other superbloom completion

[loud locust]

yes but in the website what catagory do i go into?

[sullen dove]

top gear usually

for stuff in your bags

other categories can be used for other things

droptimizer is probably the second most often used tool

[delicate flume]

current boots are 469ilvl boe from raid, weapos are hero incandescent soul cleaver and hero ravencrests wrath and my hands are hero tier. What to pick?

[molten relic]

myth wep

seems like a no brainer?

[sullen dove]

ya

[molten relic]

489 mainhand is huge

[sullen dove]

especially if you got the aspects to upgrade it right away

but even if not

[fluid cedar]

Ye I picked up that myth white fin axe a few weeks back it’s a biggun

[fading sky]

always weapon

[fluid cedar]

Myth track weapons can be hard to come by and usually weapon ilvl holds more weight than a potential of like +12 strength from higher track gloves

[fading sky]

unless theres some sick trinket

[delicate flume]

just pip but ihave 476 rezan and aug

[loud locust]

ok so i pasted it in to top gear so do i now disclick everything that was not in my vault?

[hardy cargo]

no just click the things that were to add them to the sim

[loud locust]

ok then it said incomplete enchants?

wait

nvm

[frosty scroll]

do ppl play with dancing blades in m+ nowadays?

[clever belfry]

dancing blades

is a lot better

[frosty scroll]

im asking, have been away for a few weeks

[loud locust]

so its telling me to get the ring?

[sullen dove]

yea

[loud locust]

ah ok thanks

[hasty path]

Did you sim it with catalyst

Because I find it hard to believe a chest is a 9k downgrade

[loud locust]

where do i choose cata?

[sullen tendon]

are you wearing a two hander and a one hadner?

[atomic nymph]

Def did not - For any armor piece you need to click the + and press "Convert to tier item" and increase it to max ilvl as well if it's not

[hasty path]

Uhhh I’m on mobile so I can’t be much help there tbh I don’t recall the exact layout

[loud locust]

one 2 hander ( Last Season) one 1 hander ( This Season)

[hasty path]

Change to arms loot spec

[loud locust]

ok

[hasty path]

Only reason to use fury loot spec is if you’re prot, ironically

[atomic nymph]

Press the plus, then press the other 2 circeled options, for any tier-slot armor piece

[loud locust]

yea that is confusing but alright

ok and do that on the chest?

[atomic nymph]

for any tier-slot armor piece

[humble plover]

Legendary aquired boys, just the quest before raid now lets go

[molten relic]

"just the quest"

[lapis lion]

lol

[humble plover]

[lapis lion]

stoked for you tho

[loud locust]

apparently it still is a -9000 for choosing the chest

and it wants me to pick the ring

[lapis lion]

theres no way a chest is a 9k downgrade

especially simming at 100k dps

[atomic nymph]

Did you click the new item it created to include it in the sim

[loud locust]

yes i disclicked the og chest and clicked the new converted tier chest piece

[atomic nymph]

honestly, if you want to, just send me your simc string and i'll double check it for you

[hasty path]

He probably has no new tier

[sullen dove]

i mean if he's losing old 4set i dont thinks thats crazy

yea

[hasty path]

So isn’t even gaining 2pc

[sullen dove]

all the pieces we saw were outta aberrus

[atomic nymph]

yeah you'd need to put in catalyst on other slots i guess

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[lapis lion]

wait you dont have any tier

[loud locust]

nope

everything is last season

this is my first award

[lapis lion]

id suggest doing lfr, ED weeklies, etc before you take anything from your vault

you may end up with 4pc, you may end up with 3pc, and that chest would for sure be your biggest upgrade

[loud locust]

ok

[lapis lion]

all really depends, but in your current situation its a massive waste to choose before you do anything this week

[loud locust]

what are ED weeklys?

[atomic nymph]

Honestly tho, based

[eternal sundial]

Eating disorder weeklies?

[lapis lion]

emerald dream - superbloom, plant 5 seeds, gain 1500 rep. theyll all give 441 pieces and if youre lucky you can get a piece to convert to tier

[loud locust]

yea i dont screenshot usally

[lapis lion]

not great, but it's a good start to get you your tier

[atomic nymph]

much better than sending some mobile picture or smth, hence based

[wet notch]

Dwarf if BiS. I’m going back dwarf after being Nelf. Nelf fucks up so many tongs because of ears.

[lapis lion]

i meant to ask, but considering its the middle of the day, guessing you got it from lfr or normal?

[sullen dove]

i mean.. you can pug heroic pretty easily

a lot of ppl do early if they dont ahve a guild

[wet notch]

Are all leggos 496? Even from lfr or normal?

[sullen dove]

yes

[wet notch]

Okay roger thank you

[neon nacelle]

If i do HC, should i do LFR and NM to try take leggo?

[sullen dove]

if heroic first no

it uses up all the chances from lfr and norm and adds it to heroic

[wet notch]

I’d do heroic last tbh

[sullen dove]

this is not real numbers but say lfr 1% normal 2% heroic 3%

you can either do them in ascending order

or do heroic first and its 6%

and then you dont get anything from the first 2 difficulties

should be about the same anyway but up to you if you want multiple shots at a lower chance, or just the easier once a week highest chance you can do

and not think about it any further than "ok do boss once, get lucky, if not gg go next week"

[neon nacelle]

How much % increases the lessers and greatness?

[sullen dove]

no ones got a clue

[wet notch]

Which is dumb af

Not sure why they would put that shit in the game and not specify

[hasty path]

Coming in at a 32.33%, uh, repeating of course, chance at the leggo dropping this week

I crunched the numbers

[sullen dove]

meh they didnt specify evoker leggo

[modest condor]

but do you have chicken?

[sullen dove]

and tbh i dont think they ever officially specify any items droprate

[inland flame]

nah bro we talked about this its 50/50

[sullen dove]

like mount drops

[hasty path]

Yes

🍗

[frozen lake]

You are dumb

[humble plover]

Heroic

[neon nacelle]

Absolutly true

[mystic fractal]

So, if I can do H Fyrakk, there's no real point in doing normal for the leggo drop chance, correct?

[left perch]

correct

[fading sky]

always 50/50 some ppl just have TERRIBLE luck !

[left perch]

you could get an ember for next week tho

[fading sky]

i choose to die on this hill

[wet notch]

Oh okay thanks. Fuckin weirdo

[sullen dove]

😭 what

[tepid scroll]

No Lego this week but I did sell a myth track augury for 500k. Honestly worth it over 6ilvls on the normal version 😂

[sullen dove]

coulda hiked that price up probably

but that is a w

[hasty path]

^

[wet notch]

Huge!

[fading sky]

https://youtu.be/XFkzRNyygfk?si=G_9pD9FDekCK81uN&t=62

[tepid scroll]

Will pay for the Lego when I do get it!!

[sullen dove]

real and true

[fading sky]

lel i offered some1 200k for the augery

last week

or wait 250k

[tepid scroll]

I got 4 whispers immediately 😂

[fading sky]

he said no... heres the kicker he was havoc

so it isnt that insane for him mah boy just didnt want gold i guess

[mystic fractal]

I thought it was pretty good for them, is that only in ST?

[fading sky]

ye

i mean its not bad at all

[tepid scroll]

Can’t wait for that dude to also get it out of his weekly

[sullen dove]

fr

that guy just bought a socket for 500k

crazy

[frozen lake]

blizzard next to never says anything about drop rates and you are raging on here they didn't produce a dissertation about the blp for you. Man people spout the dumbest stuff

No thought at all they just whine and talk shit

[gilded pawn]

its great on ST

not great in m+

for them

[mystic fractal]

Ahh that tracks

[tepid scroll]

483 augury already pumps enough and the tier is long. Def would have kept it though if I didn’t have it

[fading sky]

i mean

if he allready had augery dumb, but if he didnt

i would also pay 500k i think for augery

[sharp oriole]

Im lazy, does anyone link the bloodbath/rampage macro? lol

[stark zealot]

I've got 489 Augury, 489 Rezan, and 483 Signet. Rezan/Signet sims the highest for me on fights 5+ min, but I know Augury is supposed to be better than it sims for. Do I run Rezan for ST and Signet for MT or just run Signet?

[open meadow]

Yes

[past pivot]

For short ST fights, run Augury and Rezan. For long ST fights, Augury and Signet.
For M+, you want Augury and Might of the Ocean.

[wild mural]

where angy augury

[stark zealot]

Alright so probably Rezan just for Volcoross (mythic) and Signet for Nymue and Smolderon. Thank you

[hardy cargo]

nobody get augury

[rigid stirrup]

holy shit it feels good to get invited to keys now

[past pivot]

You can also look at others’ logs and see if they swap out Rezan’s for a high Might or Ember for some extra burst on shorter fights. Takes the RNG out if you have those trinkets at high ilvl

[stark zealot]

Thanks yeah I'm checking logs now to see

[wet notch]

I'm raging? Because "which is dumb af". Again your a fuckin weirdo go back in your hole.

[stark zealot]

Today will be my first raid after swapping from Arms main

[wet notch]

those are the best... lol

[summer quail]

gzz

[mellow swan]

ty

[stark zealot]

What's your secret?

[rigid stirrup]

push hard at the beggining of the season

push your own key and pray you chose the right people

rng blackrooks once youg et higher

people see the +27 BRH I timed and totally ignore the fact that it's the freest key since SBG

they just see 27 and are like okay this guy is probably good

[wet notch]

Idk why i always found brh nerve racking... Any tips?

[rigid stirrup]

I mean I feel like its not

[stark apex]

just do damage and leech

[rigid stirrup]

if peolpe are on top of kicks

and you focus target the casters

and you don't overlap CC's its pretty free

[wet notch]

Okay fair enough haha

[stark zealot]

Oh okay so just get high rating? I just got 3k last week so I'm working on it lol

[rigid stirrup]

grats!

[brittle crow]

where is the archi article on fury warrior mountain thane

[rigid stirrup]

more so pushing your own key

[brittle crow]

i need to be told how to feel

[stark apex]

key is even easier on tyr weeks cause the bosses dont do anything

[wet notch]

holy shit i didn't even think about that 😮

[hardy cargo]

there was a whole dev interview

pika did it

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[glacial haven]

Does anyone have a macro for might trink + avatar?

I'm shit at macros thats why I'm asking

[brittle crow]

/use might trink
/cast avatar

there's ur macro

idk what it's called but use it's actual name

[inland flame]

Alright guys opening my 4 mythics box get ready to congrats me on my Augury

[unreal onyx]

cool smolderon boots you got

[stark apex]

Might of the Ocean

[brittle crow]

good job on your 3rd gnarlroots bonecrusher

[glacial haven]

Ye I've sorted it cheers pal

[nocturne dragon]

tehfono post the vault

[inland flame]

guys almost as good

[brittle crow]

big oof

[inland flame]

that was my vault i took myth track chest since I was still hero

[left perch]

no use the slot number 13 or 14

[brittle crow]

this would be smart but i can't count so

[left perch]

fair

[past pivot]

That’s not worth a screenshot. Socket-city

[nocturne dragon]

eh then what do you mean by the 4 mythic box, sorry still new here

[olive wraith]

Macro it to recklessness instead

[inland flame]

The weekly even quest to do 4 myth dungos that gives you a rando heroic piece

Only need Augury, did not get Augury

Must be bugged

[shrewd ore]

no weps no aug

[covert blaze]

aug for sure

[young swan]

augury

[proper peak]

I wonder if I should bother crafting a weapon or ring just for 3ilvl

[young swan]

or wait till after u clear the raid

and see if u loot one

and then decide

[shrewd ore]

gonna wait till after raid to see if i can get both

[past pivot]

Yes on ring. Flavor packet. No on weapon.

[proper peak]

I got flavor pocket on boots already

and one crafted ring at 486 and a 483 socket one

yeah I could sim, but was more thinking if its worth from a cost perspective

[past pivot]

Then no. Craft lariat or something else.

[proper peak]

Are we looking at lariat this season with full sockets?

[past pivot]

It’s meh but better than 3 ilvl gain

[gray nexus]

gl to all this week 🙏

[proper peak]

I got a shadowflame on cloak and the vers bracers

[inland flame]

Could make Shadowflame bracers for ST maybe

[gray nexus]

Also does anyone know why my droptemizer is saying that volc neck is a 0.2 dps increase but my top gear is saying it's not. Same exact weights, made sure max upgrades were all selected

[proper peak]

I only raid heroic which is why I went vers bracers

[midnight jackal]

@proper peak even in mythic, from looking at logs most fury use the vers bracers

[proper peak]

maybe if I am really bored I will run a bunch of sims with a lariat and engineering bracers and see if that might work out with full sockets

[loud locust]

can anyone give me their talents for when they raid?

i only have 2 set

[past pivot]

Check wowhead or icy veins.

[loud locust]

yea but wowhead gives multiple and idk which to choose but ill give icy a try

[past pivot]

2 set still runs t30 talents. @loud locust

Or goes arms.

You don’t swap till 4p

[elder granite]

no leggo or augery rip

[dapper goblet]

only use 2pc

trust me

[proper peak]

I wish counterweight wasn't so meh

[scarlet kraken]

does ankyone know if you race change with the legendary axe quest does it fuck it up, or is that only with faction changes?

[ebon venture]

is pips trinket even good for fury m+?