fury

[brittle crow]

like how demon hunter can skip almost the entirety of ulduar down to yogg

or the entirety of stratholme down to rivendare

or most of black temple up to illidan

or skip the spider gauntlet before sindragosa

demon hunters can skip a lot tbh...

[summer quail]

fkn demon hunters

[marble bison]

At least that one makes sense

[steady briar]

Is the legendary axe in the adventure guide? I can't find it, I know I can just see it on wowhead but where is it in game

[oblique trail]

You can find it in the mog tab, at the end of the 2handed Axes

[past pivot]

Personal quest reward so not in the adventure guide

[oblique trail]

That's the only place

If you just want to look at the stats or w/e, you can /w (your character name) then link it

[steady briar]

I just wanted to see the drop off Fyrakk but I guess if it's a quest item then it won't be on the adventure guide like I thought

[eternal nebula]

Is there a way to add embellishments on items in the droptimizer sim?

[unreal onyx]

gear compare

[eternal nebula]

alright ty

[earnest grail]

how much does fury change with the lego

[unreal onyx]

barely if at all

1 more ability every 2min

[earnest grail]

not even the weapon damage? if you are upgrade from 483

[unreal onyx]

?

ofc

it's higher ilvl

so it's more dmg

[frank dawn]

It’s 4-6% total increase for most people

[autumn mica]

Legendary does around 6-7% of your overall in a m+ dungeon. Weapon damage excluded.

[earnest grail]

thanks for the helpful info

[brittle snow]

So fury doing better then arms right now right?

[past pivot]

Yep

[brittle snow]

I think the tier set talent build is alright

I was hoping for a more fun build but its alright

[past pivot]

I think most people like it once they play it

But it could have more punch in MT

[vagrant stag]

Can i switch to Odyns fury after just having the 2 set or do we need to wait until 4 set?

[unreal cape]

yeah i can't say i like how things are in M+ right now

[snow edge]

You can switch, but it definitely feels better with 4p

[unreal cape]

you can, but it won't feel very good. better with 4p

[vagrant stag]

Gotcha. Thanks!

[compact knot]

if you got 2p you switch to odyns in raid for sure, if you are in m+ i recommend just going arms

the 2p does alot of damage in keys for arms unironically

not so much for fury

or if u dont wanna play arms just equip last seasons tier set and use ravager

[modest condor]

2p for fury just kinda makes you play a different build but doesnt make you do more damage, also the lack of cdr on odyn's fury feels really fucking bad in m+

[compact knot]

^

i think the lack of cdr is just worse then running last seasons 4p in m+

feels bad and does no damage

i think in single target environments its 100% better tho for sure

[frank dawn]

It was a significant single target gain yep

aoe is mostly a wash

[rigid stirrup]

okay finally my stat weights are actually feeling good

[unreal onyx]

do they sim the best?

[rigid stirrup]

nah but I'm holding my own in 26's

I actually don't really sim tbh

shit is to me and doesn't really give me any value

[inland zodiac]

I just swapped from Prot to Fury. Getting my stat weights right has been a challenge.

[snow edge]

I mean, objectively it provides value to anyone; it optimises your set-up

But it isn't 100% necessary

[inland zodiac]

First sim I did had mastery just behind main hand dps and ahead of OH weapon dos

Dps

[rigid stirrup]

I thought my language indicated that I was talking personally

[inland zodiac]

Farming the DHT ring that’s heavy mastery but no luck so far

[olive wraith]

Don’t go based of stat weights

[burnt sail]

How many heroic leaps can you spam max

[olive wraith]

In the first piece of advice

1

[flat sapphire]

Always sim

Instead of following stat weights

[inland zodiac]

Oh ok. I was sorta doing that. How should I base it then?

Oh I see what you are saying

[silk wharf]

We need stat plots instead of stat weights. Those are quite a bit more useful.

[flat sapphire]

Just sin

Sim

Easy as that

[snow edge]

Top Gear to determine what gear you currently have is best; Droptimizer as a way of knowing what pieces to shoot for (roughly)

[inland zodiac]

Will do

[rigid stirrup]

also keep in mind perfect stats never equals great damage

[meager gyro]

I seem to really like VERS if I run with augury on, which is almost always

[rigid stirrup]

like any game its dependent on the player in the end

I saw some people in higher keys rocking brand + ocean

I'm guessing they maintain max stacks throughout

[inland zodiac]

Agreed. Finally getting the rotation/priority nailed down has helped a lot

[rigid stirrup]

I can't see the value being better than an augury otherwise

[meager gyro]

maybe they don't have an augury is all

[rigid stirrup]

nah they did in other keys

[unreal onyx]

better for bossfights

[meager gyro]

then they're just fucking dumb ,EZ conclusion

[unreal onyx]

signet has it's place in high keys

[silk wharf]

Vers is my best stat, no augury.

[meager gyro]

Imma be real dude, I've never done over a 20 key in my life yo, and I think that's doesn't make sense 🤪

[rigid stirrup]

oh yeah then that explains it lmao

[inland zodiac]

I have a 489 ocean. Don’t raid. Should I go for Rezan as my non on use trinket?

[rigid stirrup]

yeah

[unreal onyx]

rezan is okay

[silk wharf]

Sounds good.

[unreal onyx]

crab is also an alternative

[rigid stirrup]

but its gonna feel bad if you're doing anything above a 25

[meager gyro]

I wanna boil them crabs

[rigid stirrup]

yeah i'd honestly go crab + oce tbh

[unreal onyx]

ominous chromatic essence

[inland zodiac]

I’m doing 20s right now

[unreal onyx]

[rigid stirrup]

the procs aren't crazy enough for rezens to maintain value

if you're doing 20s then you can just pretty much rock whatever

[inland zodiac]

I think I have a crab from early season that’s on the champion track

[unreal onyx]

sim angle then

(rezan will outsim it in ST)

[rigid stirrup]

on tyran weeks i'd stick with the rezans

[inland zodiac]

Makes sense

[unreal onyx]

you change trinkets in 20s for tyran/fort?

[inland zodiac]

I don’t. I assume he meant for higher keys

[unreal onyx]

you don't raid at all

not even for the leggo?

[inland zodiac]

I don’t. Haven’t killed a single boss

[restive peak]

We take him to heroic fyrakk rn he gets leggo, guaranteed

[rigid stirrup]

should give it a try

[restive peak]

I'm the alt-magnet

[inland zodiac]

Thought about killing gnarlroot on heroic for a chance at the weapon

[rigid stirrup]

this raid is actually my fav

[unreal onyx]

fyrakk hc is more annoying than difficult

[inland zodiac]

But now the raids been out long enough I wouldn’t get invited due to my IO

[meager gyro]

let's do a warrior only dps group, and tanks, just get evoker healer

[unreal onyx]

pally heals

so they can get leggo too

1 evoker for bl

[meager gyro]

4 hpals, 1 presvoker, 2 prot warrs, 13ish dps warrs

is anda on US? make anda heal

[inland zodiac]

Maybe a monk for the debuff

[unreal onyx]

we don't need debuff

[silk wharf]

need a token dh for the shadowflame procs.

Also a druid

[meager gyro]

are we doing this right now?

[noble elm]

Only if he dies on the pull and doesn’t get ressed

That’s 5000% leggo chance

And guaranteed augury

[valid violet]

!wa

[hasty path]

!instructionsonhowtobuildimprovisedexplosivedevicespublishedbytheunitedstatesgovernment

[valid violet]

Im searching for good Warrior weakauras. Since i switched my mains one from afenar to a different one. I thought i should also Switch an my warri alt.

[hasty path]

I highly recommend attempting to learn to make some basic weakauras for yourself and take inspiration from premade ones you like

The majority of popular weakauras you will find all suffer from the same issues:

1. They’re one size fits all. They don’t necessarily tell you what you need to know
2. They tend to be kitchen sink style. They have a lot of excess bulk

[modest condor]

you dont even have to learn, weakauras has a built in template system, you just select what type of weakaura you want, which ability you want it for and it spits one out pre-built

[restive peak]

Facts spoken

[pliant thicket]

What is this bug lol. Unlearning/learning it every few seconds while on a dummy

[sudden tusk]

bloodrage is a pvp talent so its kinda buggy when on a pve target dummy

[wanton mirage]

do the adds that spawn on TOT medusa boss scale with Fortified or Tyannical?

[sudden tusk]

lemme check

[sudden tusk]

scale with fort

[sullen dove]

https://imgur.com/E9ZsiA8

legendary

[pliant thicket]

nice

[dense elbow]

The little imp that could

[modest condor]

health scales with neither, damage scales with tyran

[wanton mirage]

confused noise

[modest condor]

health scales with neither
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Zy8XcFDtLAdJbWQ9#fight=7&type=resources&phase=2&hostility=1&source=92
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Pw9kvnTQAtgJGf43#fight=16&type=resources&phase=2&translate=true&hostility=1&source=323

damage scales with tyran
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Pw9kvnTQAtgJGf43#fight=16&type=damage-taken&phase=2&translate=true&target=323&view=events&ability=428097
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Zy8XcFDtLAdJbWQ9#fight=7&type=damage-taken&phase=2&target=92&view=events&ability=428097
(look at the number after U:)

[dense rivet]

any guides of best gear for mythic plus?

[royal oxide]

Is it not on wowhead?

[hidden kiln]

porcelain crab
gore cruster butchers block
acceleratin sandglass..

thoughts? im using the cataclysmic signet brand...

[wanton mirage]

thanks silm for research.

[hidden kiln]

if i sim.. the gore cruster wins.. but we get crits from tierset.. so.. what u guys recomend_

[royal oxide]

I use augery and might

Byt if augery was not a choice my crab sims next best

[wanton mirage]

there is not a place augury is not a choice currently

[gilded pawn]

Yeah our class is bad enough for augury to be good

Imagine not being dh

[royal oxide]

Augery is nuts on dh.

Like mine does 9-12% on dh in st

[atomic nymph]

Yeah, only shit classes want augury. Not like DH & Fire mage both want it

[gilded pawn]

Not like the first pin in the dh discord says in detail why augury isn’t the play in m+

[atomic nymph]

DH discord is known for being absolutely awful though. I don't interact with it but I'm rather sure they've peddled an incorrect rotation for the entire tier

[gilded pawn]

Both the sim and the napkin math backs it up for dh in aoe

[royal oxide]

That is a take.

[gilded pawn]

I mean dh discord wasn’t great in sl

[hidden kiln]

the catalclysmic signet.. its a decent choice?

[gilded pawn]

Then they sort of fixed it a bit

[gilded pawn]

There’s a detailed post on wowhead on how to optimize signet uptime

[royal oxide]

If the fight lasts 6 minutes or you are gigalucky

[pallid idol]

Fellas im sure this has been asked countless times so I apologize in advance - can leggo drop from vault ?

[atomic nymph]

I mean I'm only taking that opinion from a DH Friend, but he parses like this:
It's something about glaive toss or idk, I don't play the class

[atomic nymph]

no

[sudden mango]

does the general vers/mastery priority change at all in m+?

[gilded pawn]

Augury is only not great for m+

[atomic nymph]

Crit becomes more valuable for aoe/cleave

[gilded pawn]

Which is what I said

[sudden mango]

ty!

[gilded pawn]

You should just stick to st stats

The aoe stat changes very minorly

That you may as well just sim for st

[atomic nymph]

I might have missed some context, but "Yeah our class is bad enough for augury to be good"

If you meant "... to be good in AoE", then sure

[royal oxide]

I think my haste flips with crit for my bottom stat in aoe and they sim neck and neck

[gilded pawn]

And no augury doesn’t have any super interaction with dh or mages

Except they can eat the proc faster to prevent overlapping

[royal oxide]

Know your enemy pumps it's damage yeah? Or does it not behave like all other trinkets prior from this expac

[gilded pawn]

Well it shouldn’t

Unless blizzard messed up

[royal oxide]

They did last patch with bomb trinket and anvil

[gilded pawn]

Generally blizzard doesn’t want trinkets to interact with class

Well those are proc damages

This “amplifies your damage” up to a cap

There’s a bit of a difference

[royal oxide]

It still crits

[gilded pawn]

It just means they can eat the proc extremely fast

[atomic nymph]

The trinket damage by itself shouldn't be affected by a crit dmg increase, but the rate at which you'll consume the trinket will be boosted by it - so it's an indirect pump to it

[modest condor]

the trinket damage may very well be increased by it

[gilded pawn]

Yeah which goes back to my point in eating the proc faster

[modest condor]

elysian might also affects trinkets

[gilded pawn]

I think augury is a special case

But I can just sim it

[sudden tusk]

you sure? i looked at 2 26 vods and they had dif health

[gilded pawn]

When I get home

[sudden tusk]

unless im psycho

[modest condor]

look at the links i posted

[royal oxide]

All I know is augery on a dh is like 25% more effective on my dh vs my paladin or warrior

[modest condor]

know your enemy doesnt have a whitelist, so it should affect the trinket

[royal oxide]

And crits for higher amounts

[gilded pawn]

I’ll just sim with vs without know your enemy

And just take some garbage filler talent

[modest condor]

im pretty sure the real thing augury scales with is how many small crits you have

[gilded pawn]

How so

[modest condor]

specs that have lots of small hits get more out of it than specs that have big crits

because as far as i understand it, the trinket critting increases its damage cap

so you dont want it to get consumed quickly

you want to get many small hits to get many cap increases

[gilded pawn]

Yeah that could be it

But I genuinely don’t think augury double/triple dips on crit like that

[modest condor]

a single bloodbath instantly consumes the buff

but at the same time we can get 1mil+ damage from it on aoe

because of all those individual whirlwind/rampage hits

that can crit, and increase the cap

[gilded pawn]

Is it time to dig into simc code to see how augury works

[atomic nymph]

I wonder if the legendary dot crits can affect it, similar to what fire mages do with ignite

[modest condor]

i dont see why not

[muted star]

I thought it takes pre-crit damage towards its cap. So specs with guaranteed crits can effectively double its cap

[modest condor]

i have no idea how much the cap gets increased, but i am 99% sure that that's not how it works

otherwise a single bloodbath wouldnt consume it

[gilded pawn]

Go into the code for me

[modest condor]

i dont know how to read code

[gilded pawn]

I go to simc discord

[modest condor]

also im pretty sure the buff stacks if you proc it multiple times

just procced it, 177k cap, pressed whirlwind once and the cap went up to 352k

[covert blaze]

I'm interested on what your friend meant by that

[atomic nymph]

Was a bit ago and I'm neither familiar enough with the class or the rotation, but it was smth about them dumping all charges in opener to get a "free" glaive toss from something, even tho the set specifies needing glaive off cd

Purely because they would see a visual glaive get tossed, even with 0 charges - Again, could be misremembering it, but it all just sounded very pepeg

[molten relic]

dh has some wonky trinket interactions

if they use the ranged one from BRH the procs do 500k instead of 180k and it hits the targets twice lol

did a key the other day where dudes top damage was the trinket with average of 400k proc damage

[storm rune]

It looks like their entire tier set works by throwing glaive on CD, doesn't seem like this should be shocking news

[atomic nymph]

No but the 2set specifies needing it off cd - "Casting Blade Dance or Death Sweep automatically casts Throw Glaive if off cooldown, and has a 50% chance per slash to proc an additional free Throw Glaive at 35% damage."

But they were reccomending blowing globals on using their charges before pressing blade dance or death sweep, so they would be at 0 or smth and not utilize that part

[serene charm]

is this a bug? it says my DT is only 17 but ive done it in 19

[ember salmon]

@serene charm

[serene charm]

oh wtf it counts same dungeon twice?

[ember salmon]

for the vault? yes

[serene charm]

so i guess i have to just run it again?

[ember salmon]

you can run any one of them on 18 to fill out your vault

[serene charm]

okey

thanks

was confused

[sinful spoke]

The last box of ur vault always uses ur lowest difficulty

What i do is i just run 8 20s and be done with it

[clever path]

how does this talent work?

how can i reach 5 stacks if i hit bloodthirst next time on cd for exmaple it instantly procs and im left with no stacks

[keen forum]

consider it bad luck protection for crits

[compact knot]

man i swear that talent is hard to understand

but so many people ask questions about it

[clever path]

I understand what it does

[compact knot]

it takes the stacks away when it crits

its not meant to reach 5 ever

[clever path]

"but it says it on the box"

D;

[compact knot]

ig it doesnt say it takes the stacks away

so that can confuse people

[covert blaze]

i mean it's just bad luck protection like someone said

[compact knot]

imagine if that talent didnt take the stacks away

[clever path]

are you guys running this talent or are you using slaughtering strikes?

[compact knot]

holy moly

[covert blaze]

you really think you would get bt to 100% crit at all times lol

[covert blaze]

yeah would be too crazy

[zealous condor]

Slaughtering strikes for more AoE

[compact knot]

bloodcraze means more odyns fury, ss means more damage

but

both are very similar

[zealous condor]

Bloodcraze for more ST

[compact knot]

i run BC in all types of content because i like that it changes the gameplay imo

while SS is just a full on damage % increase which is boring

[covert blaze]

how does it change the gameplay

[compact knot]

more bt crits = more odyns fury

changes the gameplay

[covert blaze]

I wouldn't call that changing the gameplay

[zealous condor]

That does change anything lmao

It’s the same 2 buttons

(Dogshit playstyle fire whoever made this)

[compact knot]

it isnt that bad in ST

in single target its fun

aoe is

[zealous condor]

It’s lame in everything

[compact knot]

nah

ur coping

[zealous condor]

Yah

[compact knot]

too much cope

[zealous condor]

Ok mr BC changes the gameplay

[covert blaze]

[zealous condor]

Forehead

[compact knot]

raging blow rampage

legit same gameplay different buttons

zz

[zealous condor]

If they make Tierset hit more than ur main target

We will be saved

[compact knot]

and also broken

lol

[zealous condor]

Nah

You’d still be target capped

DH rogue mage boomy hunter will still fuck you

[clever path]

atleast fury warrior is not as ass as frost dk

[zealous condor]

Also I loved sending cooldowns and then being useless for the next 1.30

[compact knot]

brother i told you aoe was bad

ST is the fun part

[zealous condor]

Barely fun

Even Lego won’t save us

[clever path]

what do you propose

reroll silly priest in plate armor?

[zealous condor]

No

Cope and mald until they buff us

[clever path]

i was scoping every changelog for the past month

warrior does not exist in blizzard offices

[compact knot]

oh warrior doesnt get any changes

pretty sure its the least changed class by a large margin

this expansion

[zealous condor]

Prob cus of pvp

Or some bs

[clever path]

Some bird on the street told me a rumor that warrior is gonna get rework?

or was i trolled

[compact knot]

trolled

maybe arms will

atleast something mini

[clever path]

Isnt arms already good

[compact knot]

no

[zealous condor]

No lmao

[clever path]

like pumper action shotgun

[compact knot]

arms is worse

[zealous condor]

Its worse in everything by a very large margin

[compact knot]

in m+ its fun but holy fuck raid is actually horrible

[zealous condor]

Good way to say it but

[compact knot]

like its super bad in raid

[clever path]

but bladestorm free from sageswift tentacles / roots

go brrr

happy warrior

[zealous condor]

No ST then

[clever path]

man it makes me sad

i dont want to play some pepega priest with plate armor

[compact knot]

then go the yellow or purple ones

[clever path]

purple isnt pepega?

[compact knot]

well im referring to dh so its probably even fucking dumber

[zealous condor]

Just don’t

Be a gigachad

[compact knot]

idk if they even buff fury though 😦

they wont

btw

[clever path]

they did buff fury in pvp tho

[zealous condor]

[clever path]

2 weeks ago i think

[compact knot]

yeah fury was fucking horrible in pvp

[zealous condor]

Let them buff arms then

[compact knot]

played a couple games of SS and tierset felt dog

[zealous condor]

Give us something

[clever path]

prot tanking

[compact knot]

arms needs god

[clever path]

is gigachad

[compact knot]

they gonna make some WW change i bet

our st is pretty good already, our aoe just lacks

[gilded pawn]

thats easy to fix

[compact knot]

tru

[clever path]

what about these two

[gilded pawn]

buff ww cleave dam

buf ww dam

[clever path]

why so many people suggest dancing blades instead of titanic rage?

[gilded pawn]

because its better in low target cleave

and a lot better in ST

[clever path]

but isnt 10% a huge increase to aoe burst?

[compact knot]

not really

[floral summit]

Feels better also with rotation, u do not feel that much rage starve

[compact knot]

alot of your damage also comes from troar too

the 4 stacks of WW shouldnt be slept on either

[clever path]

I mean, dont get me wrong i played warrior for a long time , just never thought if i am doing shit correct or not and got sudden interest into delving more deep into small details about my class

but so my opener looks like this:

1. reck, 2. charge , 3. rampage 3. odyn's fury (wait for mini avatar to dissappear) .4 bloodthirst . 5 avatar and all that jazz

[compact knot]

in m+ im assuming

[clever path]

yeah i dont do raids

raid takes too much time

[compact knot]

3 keys is like a full clear of normal in a pug

2 in a good pug

its not that large of a time sink but understandable

[clever path]

i run dungeons and did some raiding just for trinkets when it came out , and ran it with No Preassure community , was fun, but too much noise - too much talking and bla bla bla bla

[compact knot]

personally what i do is use DB on tyran weeks, and titanic rage on fort weeks

also your opener changes slightly depending if ur using DB or Titanic rage

dont need to rampage with titanic rage

[clever path]

so fortified weeks im also better of with slaughtering strikes?

than bloodcraze

[dry talon]

But if u pre rampege,doesnt OF hit harder then?

[compact knot]

no

with titanic rage it enrages you

but if your using dancing blades yes you want to rampage

[dry talon]

I know,but when u enraged and u use odins fury or other skill,doesnt it hit harder.

[covert blaze]

yes

[quick mist]

Titanic Rage enrages you tho

so u dont need to do that

but if you use Dancing Blades, yes you should

[covert blaze]

running titanic rage is cringe imo

[misty helm]

Is the first M+ vault slot also based on ur top run

or nah

[quick mist]

yes, ur correct but they didnt specify

[dry talon]

But it enrages u post hit

[covert blaze]

no

[quick mist]

It does it like this,

1. Enrage
2. Cast Odyn Fury (with 10% more dam)
3. Give you 4 stacks of WW

(i might be wrong with the order of 2 & 3 but its no diff)

[misty helm]

huh?

[quick mist]

I replyed to the wrong person

sorry

[compact knot]

2 and 3 dont matter

it enrages you first

so its gg

[quick mist]

yes, like I said, i might have got it wrong, but the importnat part is the first thing it does is enrage you

[dry talon]

I thought when u useOF first u do dmg and out of it u get enrage buff

Ok good to know

[covert blaze]

yeah you dont need to rampage before OF if you have titanic rage

[dry talon]

👍🏼

[compact knot]

i dont think it matters much in m+ imo though

play whatever u think is better for the dungeon/affixes

[clever path]

sooo

when do i do roar

just send it flying whenever

[covert blaze]

during cds

while enraged

[clever path]

yea i dunno, i seem to be having better burst + aoe with bloodcraze than slaughtering strikes

[covert blaze]

the difference is super small

in aoe

between bc and ss

[still swift]

can u even rly tell within 10s neither of them rly do a lot do they

[sullen dove]

real

[covert blaze]

nah, i'd win

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-id-win-domain-expansion-homeless-gif-13640556525183392351

[covert blaze]

[still swift]

like in 10s ur still in ur of/avatar guaranteed crit bt anyway so you wouldn't notice bloodcraze at all it legit doesn't exist at that point or am I missing out on sth

[sullen dove]

ya idk absolutely no point of comparison in a 10 sec opener between 2 talents

[eternal sundial]

Simply crit every single ability in 10 seconds of burst ez?

[eternal sundial]

Especially not with a sample size of 1

[compact knot]

10 second sim gigachad

[still swift]

it's good we have a robot that yk, does that

[sullen dove]

not even sim

[compact knot]

brain

[sullen dove]

10 sec target dummy dumping

[still swift]

but in a 10s target dummy test ss should always come like tiny minor bit ahead cuz craze literally nonexistent while ss gives u whatever tiny amount of dmg
but man it's so irrelevant haah

[median marsh]

we are close to kill larodar mythic,
i have notice that many times during the fight i am poping reckless and avatar, but shortly after the horse is charging, and i am just wasting like half the time of those,
is there a good way to know when the charge is about to go so i will be able to hold my cd until the boss is back xlose to the group?

[eternal sundial]

Boss timers?

[median marsh]

i hoped there is like WA that will pop before, that i will be able to decide how muc h time before the charge is happening

if there is anything like it?

[eternal sundial]

You can make a wa read boss timers

Or you just look at your timers instead of making an addon do it

[median marsh]

oo i didnt knew i can do such thing

[eternal sundial]

Causese's raid pack has a ton of those reading was

You can just yoink the Syntax from there n be fine

Or use brain by making charge idk yellow in bw and adding a sound to it

[median marsh]

i am using DMB, but ya thats a great idea

i will check that later tonight tyvm!!

[eternal sundial]

Idk if dbm can change the bar colors

I usually really like diff colors for stuff so i dont need to read the text

Green = roots on tindral etc

[median marsh]

i am using liquid wa for timers

but i can still play with it

tyvm for the help!

[lost egret]

is it bad to macro reck/avatar to thunderous roar in m+?

[covert blaze]

yes

[covert blaze]

ill dm you something

[nova garnet]

Hello fellow Furry Warriors

[lost egret]

why tho

[nova garnet]

I wish I could play a mantid fury warrior

[covert blaze]

multiple reasons

tl dr dont macro cds together

[snow edge]

Because generally you want separate binds, so you can run a proper opener (where you use Avatar later in the rotation); that being said if you have a separate macro for Reck / Avatar / Roar for M+, and use that macro when OF isn't up, it's not terrible

[covert blaze]

the wowhead guide has explanations

[sudden tusk]

i macro OF reck together and Ava + roar/spear

then i have a seperate OF mby itself for neiche cases

[snow edge]

This is the problem though; you end up with too many macros for different situations, which is why generally keeping them separate is best. Like a Reck + OF macro is really only good in certain situations, since you definitely don't do that on your opener

[sudden tusk]

i do that on every opener

reck into charge vs carge into reck of isnt that big a dif

only when i would want reck with ava in a burst window is when ill use my OF only button

[snow edge]

Ok, I was talking about the optimal way to handle the opener though

If optimisation isn't important then sure, you can macro stuff together

[twin glacier]

You can bind reck and of for m+ and during encounter it’s fine. Generally when u pull a boss tho u need to charge reck, to be enraged and then hit OF

[snow edge]

^

[twin glacier]

After u have been in the encounter for quite sometime. putting reck and of together is smart

[snow edge]

It just means you've got extra macros / binds that's all; depends on how many more you're comfortable with

[twin glacier]

Well yea

[snow edge]

It's just usually if someone comes here and says 'is X macro ok' it's because they're trying to amalgamate some binds together, not add more

Each to their own, the wowhead guide is pretty thorough like zhai said

[sudden tusk]

true

im the kinda guy who would probably end up macroing reck to charge

lmao

or try to at least

[snow edge]

Modifying the opener slightly isn't a huge DPS change like you said, can really do whatever works best for you and your playstyle

[tepid shore]

Hey guys, the Warrior rework coming right?

[snow edge]

Ye for sure in patch X

[cosmic lance]

[summer quail]

Yes, in expansions Midnight for sure

[brave cairn]

I just wish they fixed the current design of fury. I sometimes run out of buttons to press

At least the previous season had a seamless rotation

[oblique trail]

If played properly it's very infrequent in raid

And in M+ while slightly more frequent, not super noticeable

[clever path]

seamless rotation of pressing ww as a fjller

i prefe4 not pressing anything

[twilit harbor]

Better than furious slash

[clever path]

than pressing ww

[twilit harbor]

At least it makes aoe more natural

[clever path]

its the exact same

actually

on st with st talents

[twilit harbor]

I'd like to see a rework of some capstone talent options

I think a version of this tier set could replace current Odyns Fury talents

[covert blaze]

could happen

a capstone for destro lock and a bunch of the talents that support it are based on shadowlands season 4 tier set

[frozen tartan]

Pressing anything > having clunky Pause Playstyle

But that's personal preference

[brave cairn]

Downtime on fast paced classes feels like shit

Especially melee at that, when you have no cast bars to wait on

[clever path]

pile on

[clever path]

i prefer just not pressing anything

pressing ww that generates no rage

feels worse imo

[frozen tartan]

As I said, personal preference

Fury Playstyle had the abc rule

Not anymore

[still swift]

i miss raging blows

[oblique trail]

Love S1 Fury

Very fun gameplay

[fading sky]

i 100% prefer this playstyle

[oblique trail]

Love S3 Shadowlands Fury

Very fun gameplay

[fading sky]

but thats mainly aoe wise, that automaticly i cant fuckup WW as its always off cd when u have spend ya stacks

😄

[still swift]

i despise what fury is atm it feels awful

[fading sky]

i mainly played arms, so for me a fury thats a tad slower 😄 is a win

[still swift]

rather play arms and have a cosmetic rage bar

wicked

[oblique trail]

Rather level a new char

And play a different class

Very wicked

[still swift]

ok so when is ur monk done

huh?

[oblique trail]

now

[still swift]

where?

[oblique trail]

here

[still swift]

49!!

[oblique trail]

!!

[still swift]

good high end content

[oblique trail]

That's only 21 under max level basically there

[still swift]

good math benzai

[oblique trail]

Thank you I do try

[eternal sundial]

Dangerous individual

[covert blaze]

@oblique trail keep that pfp

[still swift]

no

we need to change it asap

[fading sky]

to be fair monk seems pretty strong and fun to play atm

in both raid and m+

[still swift]

fun to play absolutely not

as long as jadeline stomp or w/e the fk the name is exists

[covert blaze]

faeline stomp
fun

[still swift]

it is designed to be misery

[covert blaze]

[oblique trail]

I haven't played Shadow but I'm sure that's also very fun to play

Also just simply don't spec Faeline

Easy solution

[still swift]

um hello they changed the names

[covert blaze]

no?

that's not in the game yet

[covert blaze]

lose 12% damage debuff 4HEad

[oblique trail]

yeah?

people want to spec SMF

basically same thing innit

When lego exists

[desert cloud]

WW sucks

[eternal sundial]

WW plays nicely bar fls

[desert cloud]

Ain’t no way it plays nicely

Serenity on gcd

[still swift]

didnt ask

futureproofing

[eternal sundial]

Mastery goes hard

[oblique trail]

Does hit combo still not matter

[eternal sundial]

It does now

U never break mastery

Also bonedust is fake

Well 1 spot u break mastery is for getting 2nd ToD if u otherwise wouldnt

[oblique trail]

What a miracle

Last I played it in Shadowlands I was told that hit combo was just cosmetic

[eternal sundial]

Well the power of bdb is in the dirt

Wcyd

[mossy fox]

cosmetic like arms rage bar

[indigo quarry]

its as cosmetic for Fury too

[eternal sundial]

Eh

[indigo quarry]

Rampage glow when you can push it

if people say that its not cosmetic for both spec they are in denial

need to unplug wow and touch grass

[eternal sundial]

You sometimes bt before ramp at certain rage amount

That's the only thing that kinda matters

[chrome plover]

I didnt log in this week

how bad are heroic fyrakk pugs

[indigo quarry]

we all know its the kind of optimization that wont matter in the end

[still swift]

-250k gold

win win

[oblique trail]

It's the difference between posting on skyhold that Fury is clunky or not

[mossy fox]

prolly not great the day before reset

although maybe i just had a bad experience cause the decent groups didnt want to invite my alt warrior

[chrome plover]

god you might be right

[mossy fox]

i call it worth

[oblique trail]

Had a buyer yesterday who was 484 ilvl

in a run

[chrome plover]

im genuinely thinking about it

[oblique trail]

Who proceeded to get flamed by other buyers for needing on gear

beware

[chrome plover]

have low motivation for wow but missing a week legendary chance is surely trolling

[mossy fox]

lol

[still swift]

kinda

yea

[oblique trail]

It is troll

[still swift]

but at same time u should buy full run cuz lesser ember chances. . .

[oblique trail]

I would not do that

[mossy fox]

benzai how much gold you been making

[oblique trail]

nothing

only 600k so far

[mossy fox]

damn

[oblique trail]

I'm incredibly poor

[chrome plover]

I can pug up to smoldy real fast surely, that's fine

[still swift]

speaking of which

[chrome plover]

just buy fyrakk

[still swift]

when are u transactioning to me

[chrome plover]

cos pug

[oblique trail]

I looted a HC BoE though

instant payout

[mossy fox]

i should have boosted some keys early this season

[still swift]

i heard 25s go for like 40k cut

[oblique trail]

Should have as well but too lazy

[still swift]

atm

[oblique trail]

sometime™️

[still swift]

trading u now

[mossy fox]

i havent had any gold income for a while, bit at least im not burning 50k ish gold per key session anymore

[oblique trail]

I see no trade window

[still swift]

i spent a mil yday so i can racechange to nelf

[oblique trail]

Would've done the same

if I had gold to do so..

[chrome plover]

oh I can buy fyrakk for 100k it's a no brainer

then just pug fresh run until I'm bored and go bedge

[final birch]

Dw no lego = no spending

Win win

[hardy cipher]

do you guys know anything about bloodbath rampage macro?

[summer quail]

yes i know about it, but don't use it as it can screw you over

[hardy cipher]

why?

[summer quail]

it forces you to press bloodbath over rampage even when not enraged.

[snow delta]

if you have bloodbath and are not enraged wouldnt it still be better to use the bloodbath since you would overrite it anyways with a new one once you hit rampage?

in regards to just a bloodbath/rampage macro

[oblique trail]

You're better off overwriting that RA stack than using an unenraged BB

[chrome plover]

unenraged = stink

[oblique trail]

Especially if you're in a scenario where you have your 2p Active

[clever path]

yeah u are losing like 60% damage

just on that bb

[snow delta]

new to the spec so legit good to know

[clever path]

and then also focus in chaos doesnt work

warpaint falls off

enraging yourself as soon as possible is the better choice 99% of the time

[eternal sundial]

If you are in full control of what you press you are going to do better

Applies to most macros

[sand nacelle]

Tbh tindral is a pug killer more than fyrakk

[final birch]

Na

Tindral is a breeze

Fyrakk requires your healers to dispel, people to collect balls and not pvp dance with lines, tanks positioning properly etc

Also whenever youre not lusting on pull you risk that 1 ape that just loves to do random lust mid fight

[floral bough]

fight sounds easy

in HC

[clever path]

council hardest pug boss

[final birch]

Council hardest reclear boss

On god

Its always pain

[summer quail]

fr, we take no time killing other bosses on reclear. council we're like headless chickens(ducks) running around

[floral bough]

Puggin Smolderon was the worst thing i experienced

[final birch]

Dude we spent like 2 hours on reclear

!!!!

On that boss

I was exhausted mentally

Fucking council man

And we are on smoldy

People dying to frontals, clearing too much or not clearing at all, not clearing the ultimate

[summer quail]

ye we are on smoldy as well, but not progged since before christmas. just doing a few bosses for vault

[final birch]

And whats most fun

Is I got ducked last 15 sec of the fight with no pools to clear on

So it fucked up my 99 🤡

Aint getting that close to pink on that boss ever again 100%

[still swift]

why are warriors always so mean?

[clever path]

[oblique trail]

What kind of person would ever do this

[eternal sundial]

@oblique trail /e spits on Insert name

[narrow narwhal]

Wait a second

[eternal sundial]

[narrow narwhal]

Banezi being toxic and a new pfp

Classic banezi

[still swift]

hello nobody said its banezi

its censored . .

[narrow narwhal]

I have demon hunter sight

[indigo quarry]

/spit was the best feature

[still swift]

ziwarr continues being rude

[indigo quarry]

now its all going downard

[oblique trail]

They should calm down

[still swift]

someone stop this madness

[narrow narwhal]

I don't wanna work

[thorny thorn]

Is it worth doing lfr -> normal -> hc raids to get more blm for the legendary or does it not matter at all

[narrow narwhal]

No

[covert blaze]

tindral is easier than smolderon

and it's not close

[still swift]

tindral is free as long as ur lead knows how to put mark for dispel

so theyre not all over

[final birch]

Is it not here anymore

[red yew]

Wow that's actually kinda messed up

Don't you agree? @oblique trail

[fossil hatch]

/me and do whatever u want

[indigo quarry]

but you dont have the nice sound effect you know

[oblique trail]

I do yeah this person should really calm down with those crazy comments

They're just too far

Imagine being compared with a classic player

Goodness there's no coming back after that one

[final birch]

Thank god I can still teabag

[red yew]

Doesn't /e work too

Insane speedrun hack 1 less letter to type

[low folio]

am i just fucking going crazy or does yazma on the last boss of atal dazar never fucking cast on warrior

i have reflected that cast like 4 times in 10 runs

[clever path]

ye

hapens

happens

[indigo quarry]

i had a run were i got like 9/10 casts

juicy

[low folio]

i swear like 90% of my reflects on that boss are ofrom one dungeons'

[summer quail]

it's just rng

[low folio]

pisses me off

failed a 25 because the only time it casted wracking pain on me was when i was the last dps alive]

[copper hinge]

Should I avoid using avatar and recklessness separately in dungeons?

Like when I have a medium sized pack and don’t want to use both

[oblique trail]

Use your CDs like normal in dungeons, as you would in raids

Using your CDs individually like that is horrible

[jovial coral]

And How would I use them in raids

uhh

[oblique trail]

Your CDs are a lot more effective if you use them together, before accounting for the fact that they have the exact same CD

[jovial coral]

Now when you say it I have seen them come back up at the same time a lot

[oblique trail]

The only time you'd separate CDs is in the opener, and even then it's by a few seconds at most

[oblique trail]

Weird isn't it

[clever belfry]

90s = 90s

real?

[oblique trail]

Real

[cosmic lance]

Have you considered a career in physics?

[narrow narwhal]

But what if you get the pally CDR buff

[oblique trail]

I already have a PhD in warrior

Hard to find a use for it though

[indigo quarry]

flame the guy that gave you the buff

for desyncing your ability

[oblique trail]

Then you cry because your trinket desyncs

[cosmic lance]

Just count slower

[eternal sundial]

Phd in dps mentioned what the fuck is a blue log

[cosmic lance]

I can't read the numbers on the ability so i manually count to 90 every time

[eternal sundial]

Based

Can count to 5

[covert blaze]

[rotund ginkgo]

solid 26s

[atomic nymph]

Bro took a shot on a russian hunter

[rotund ginkgo]

cant say i didnt expect it

wasnt my key

thank god

[still swift]

get me in touch with mommy jenny

ty

[dreamy notch]

i took the shot on a russian premade of 3 this weekend

timed back to back 26-27s

[rotund ginkgo]

It's a 26 it's a snooze fest

Not my key so I can't complain but like

Just funny green players

Pugs are just coin flips it is what it is

3.6k warlock bricked my 28 by not having invis pot

So we finished 6s too late

Pot was on cd*

[final birch]

Aint no way ragish you almost timed a 28 rise 💀

[rotund ginkgo]

No a dht

[final birch]

There’s been like 10 timed

A

[rotund ginkgo]

I'm confused ur surprised I can play?

[final birch]

Ure furry

[rotund ginkgo]

Okay?

[final birch]

Not many furies timing 28 rise

[rotund ginkgo]

Ik

[final birch]

26 is already tight

[rotund ginkgo]

It's literally a free timer they cost us a minute in deaths alone before last boss lmao

[final birch]

Ye I had 15 deaths in my rise 26 that I timed last forti

[rotund ginkgo]

We finished first boss on 9min clock

[final birch]

Incl 1 boss wipe

Its still a tight key

[barren stone]

what is the best way to gear a fresh 70 char?

[atomic nymph]

Depends on your circumstances, if you have gold, buy armorstack boosts. If you have friends, just make them run rat 20's with you. If you got curve you can finish campaign, craft 2x 476 items, and start working at m+/normal raid

[deft ridge]

Fastest way would probably be tanking m+ unless you wanna buy boost

[eternal sundial]

tanking at 450 ilvl

[hasty path]

?

It’s less impactful than having a 450 Dps tbh

You still live and keep threat if you don’t suck

And the damage loss isn’t as notable

[coarse nest]

my bdk farms 14s with full 424AH gear no problem

(chasing normal tier appearance)

[eternal sundial]

I just dont enjoy tanking unless im 486 in a 20 and dont take any damage ever

[hasty path]

Taking dmg is the fun part of tanking

[clever path]

tanking is boring

bdk is fun cause trampoline hp bar

[eternal sundial]

For me it's dealing damage and severely overpulling

[clever path]

and prot pala is fun cause infinite impact

[hollow elk]

Best of luck to everyone on the weekly double threat disappointment Tuesday

[acoustic furnace]

Imma get Augury in my vault I can smell it

[final birch]

Tbf I was doing 100+ as 450 bdk and I felt very fine in 18’s

And I’m still kinda on s2 numbers in my head

So 100k feels gucci

[eternal sundial]

Well im not much of a tank player

[clever path]

sl s4 prot was goated

[covert blaze]

I did an 18 with a 483 prot pala as 465 dh

I died to melee like 6 times

[clever path]

so from the conversation we had in the morning

what i understood is that fury is ass

[hasty path]

Yeah because he probably sucked

[clever path]

from what was written

[covert blaze]

He sure did

[clever path]

I love warrior, but hoddamn does OF feels like a potatoe

[hasty path]

Like a Dyson v8

[covert blaze]

I should do this on my shaman

The tier set mog is insane

I want the heroic one

[coarse nest]

for sure! normal dk was way to cool for me to pass up this time around

[dense elbow]

Isn't LFR the grey wolf one?

[covert blaze]

I don't remember which one is which

I want the blue one

I think it's heroic

[dense elbow]

Get the LFR one too, it is chefs kiss

Oh, to stay topical. Fury warrior tier mog is pretty meh

[flat sapphire]

It feels fun idk damage pretty good too what I've noticed

[flat sapphire]

Warrior tier mog jd awful

[kindred notch]

yo guys how much chance for legendry ?

tomorow

[dense elbow]

50/50

[kindred notch]

50 50

sadge

[indigo quarry]

its unironically 50/50

you loot it or you dont

[indigo quarry]

now are you half empty glass kind of person or half full glass ?

thats is the question

[upper token]

loaded question

the glass is two times too big

[blissful kestrel]

This is the week we all get Lego right? Right ??

[wild mural]

Surely

[blissful kestrel]

Brown man will rise

[still swift]

[clever path]

still better than

[acoustic furnace]

Paladin really did get the worst set appear this season

Priest, DK, and Warlock got some absolute bangers.

[clever path]

those 3 are pretty much guaranteed to recieve something awesome

[acoustic furnace]

True. I think the Priest set from Aberrus is the best we've seen in a long time.

[acoustic furnace]

It makes us look like an off brand Space Marine or the great value Doom Slayer

[hasty path]

It absolutely didn’t

The helmet is kinda bad but the rest is good

[unreal onyx]

the chest is sick

the colors maybe not too much

[urban tapir]

I like it, makes me think of the juggernaut lol

[dense elbow]

Tierset is the v1.5 thunderwarrior

[clever path]

i hope next expansion

they ll just remake old tier set or smthin

like from vanilla i guess

[hasty path]

Why

[valid moon]

Servers up?

[nova garnet]

Doesn't another difficulty look closer

[lapis lion]

12 minutes after maintenance started? What do you think?

[left perch]

50/50 chance

[restive peak]

100% chance today surely bois

Leggo o clock

[mossy fox]

0% chance for me

definitely not dropping

[valid moon]

Why you mad? Get some breakfast and I am sorry no one has hugged you today.

[lapis lion]

lmao who is mad, i just ate breakfast and im having a great morning. i just answered a silly question with a silly answer, dont get hostile fella

[chrome relic]

[sage depot]

50/50 just get it

[valid moon]

You answer a question with a sill answer, maintenance is not always at the same hour and sometimes server is up fast FELLA, don’t get hostile

[chrome relic]

im gonna get it from lfr

gonna queue as SOON as servers come up

[lapis lion]

anyway changing the subject - how many have even seen it drop?

[sage depot]

once last week

[lapis lion]

ive yet to see it in any of my heroic kills. no one has gotten it in my normal kills on my alts either

[warm crag]

its still rare

[sage depot]

surely everyone gets it this week

[clever path]

You are correct!

[nova garnet]

LOL

[granite tiger]

somtimes all my abilities going to cd like im using BB then have nothing to press and which abilities getting faster ready is BT and im doing BB then BT
its should not happening like this but idk why ? anyone can help what im doing wrong ?

[lapis lion]

i guess that can happen very very rarely but without logs its kinda hard to say for sure what youre doing wrong

[granite tiger]

look at this

[modest condor]

are you in reck there or not?

because if you are then you shouldnt have to press slam/ww and if you arent then you should be using a bloodthirst before rampage

[unborn cedar]

so this week i killed fyrakk hc
on my warr
now if i kill it on normal i cant get the leggo
is that right or i am stupid

[restive peak]

You are correct friend

[pure echo]

Does anyone have the math on whether pressing execute during execute with ashen juggernaut is a better opportunity cost vs pressing ramp/bloodbath if able?

[fickle bluff]

iirc its better to rampage if you can

[pure echo]

bc when I look at it in game, via details, and logs my math still shows the cost of potentially losing ashen isn't worth the cost of getting another bloodbath in

[fickle bluff]

(and making sure not to let jugg drop)

[pure echo]

for me prioritizing ramp in execute still makes me drop ashen. that's why im trying to understand the difference between the 2

[fickle bluff]

making jugg not drop is prio

[granite tiger]

mean when i dont have reck should do it like this always ?
BB then slam then BT then rampage / BB then WW then BT then rampage

[fickle bluff]

but you can skip an exe if you can

[fallen beacon]

anyone know stat softcaps? im looking to even out my stats properly now that im around 460

[fickle bluff]

doesnt exist

[fallen beacon]

so doesnt matter what stats you go? just go for the tier on them?

[warm crag]

you still have like 20 ilvls to get you should not care about secondaries

[eternal sundial]

30 ilvls actually

Tho tbf

I dont understand how simc says ur 490 with two 496 items and 2 crafted

[warm crag]

offhand is considered

its not ingame

[eternal sundial]

Grief simc smh

[pure echo]

Got any math on it tho?

[clever path]

What does this talent even do?

is it worth taking for single target ?

[fickle bluff]

no, just the word of critcake

[dull sierra]

gives you a stacking crit % buff on execute

[hasty path]

If you read it it explains what it does

[clever path]

Read the question below

[dull sierra]

try changing the apl to ignore it

yes its worth it

[indigo quarry]

i was about to send him into a TTS that read the ability

[calm swallow]

Helllllooooooooo heroic augury

[modest condor]

yes

[covert blaze]

i got a hole from vault

[warm crag]

hole is still +1k

[covert blaze]

it's not an augury

[granite tiger]

thank u so much ,this problem in my routation was trying to killing my mind 😂

[inner zinc]

how good is the accelerating sandglass on fury?

[warm crag]

l bozo

[warm crag]

have you simmed it for your character?

[clever path]

its up there

[covert blaze]

[sullen dove]

nah, I’d hole

[covert void]

at what point are you guys activating might of the ocean exactly.

[sullen dove]

With avatar pretty much

[warm crag]

with of before the avatar

[sullen dove]

or like… if you’re doing the funny opener

Can be on the of

[warm crag]

wtf is the funny opener

[inner zinc]

thats ST? Does Sandglass do anything for MT?

[covert void]

I do it with the OF, but sometimes its going off without the rest. (as ofc OF is off c/d a lot more)

[pure echo]

Do you know how i can alter it?

[clever belfry]

just use it on reck??

[covert void]

feels like im wasting it

[clever belfry]

???

[warm crag]

what

is the funny opener

[sullen dove]

odyns first is the funny

[warm crag]

how is that the funny

[clever belfry]

if its after reck

its correct?

[warm crag]

are you avataring first??

[sullen dove]

yea it’s just quirkier in m+

na

[clever belfry]

u still press OF before ava in kyes

or u just int ur OF dot

[sullen dove]

yar

[tight elk]

both rings have a socket and one has leech. My first decent vault.

[sullen dove]

[clever path]

meanwhile eu plebs like me have to wait

[sullen dove]

thick

[covert void]

it's just a little funky as I have a charge/reck macro now as well as a normal charge. (scroll wheel, shift scroll wheel).

Into normal bind OF, normal bind DR. Then Avatar I use my old burst c/d macro (was no need changing it, works for rest of the fight when it all syncs up.)

So you'd activating might with reck on the charge? then keep it in the burst macro with avatar? I guess?

Sounds complicated, just trying to explain my setup.

[summer quail]

activate might right before you press OF

[covert void]

Ideally, I cba having trinkets on a sep binding. So just figuring where's best in that setup. I'd do it if i need to but hey.

if it fits as it should, that is.

[summer quail]

then you accept not playing optimally and bind it to avatar

[covert void]

that's fair ye

I guess I can throw it in the charge macro, so it pops for openers before everything.

Then just keep it in the avatar macro at the start for midfight 2nd burst.

meh

[coarse nest]

interesting