fury

[spiral oasis]

2026 for sure

[indigo quarry]

[pliant ridge]

whats yalls blp count at?

I have 12 rn

[spiral oasis]

hgow to check

[pliant ridge]

https://wago.io/_smqBY9dR

[oblique trail]

An amount

Keeping track is psychotic

[covert blaze]

Why count

It's 50%

[pliant ridge]

I will remain psychotic until i get it

[oblique trail]

I dont think that'll cure it

[pliant ridge]

It might not

but it will help

[spiral oasis]

this shit odn't work

[open arrow]

It does

I downloaded it and when you reach 99 like me you get it guaranteed

[spiral oasis]

lmao

[covert blaze]

It might not be retroactive

[spiral oasis]

what would the point be..

[last yoke]

It's so you can tell yourself you'll get it for sure next week

And still be wrong

[covert blaze]

[spiral oasis]

it don't work

it says 3 for me

[pliant ridge]

It reads from your hidden currency where your blp is counted

[spiral oasis]

But that wouldn't make sense cuz I ate like 4 lesser embers

and like a billion greater embers

[last yoke]

Well lfr and norm and H don't all stack so

It's been an eligible drop for what, 6 lockouts?

[covert blaze]

BLP is significant and relevant

[spiral oasis]

ok well I've killed heroic fyrakk at least twice

and normal fyrakk every week before that

idk why my BLP would be worse

[last yoke]

It's okay once you get it your rogue 16 ilvls lower will still outsim in aoe

[spiral oasis]

lmao

yipee

[last yoke]

#feelsawfulman

[covert blaze]

My 460 dh does more damage than my 485 warrior

[spiral oasis]

my ass is just gonna get back on my warlock

it's so over

[last yoke]

It's the no utility tax #waitaminute

[spiral oasis]

i'm green now srry fellas it's been fun warriors over

[last yoke]

Traitor

Also nice mog

[forest owl]

Happy new year everyone 🥳

[rigid stirrup]

timed my first 26 and the hunter in my group says inspect him

he has like a 341 helm on

[last yoke]

Lmao

[rigid stirrup]

but

it rolled into a 27 blackrook

[last yoke]

Hype

[forest rose]

Happy new year from Wales!

[wild mural]

Happy new year furrys may the new year bring you leggos and augury’s alike

[last yoke]

Signet brand is harder to get apparently

[covert blaze]

goes hard

[spiral oasis]

you say nice mog but you mean 'wow i've seen that same mog like 200 times in org'

[covert blaze]

Augury is a very rare drop

[last yoke]

Is it tho?

Let me tell you about my definitely statistically significant sample size and how rng hates me on trinkets

[spiral oasis]

ret paladins always win augury even tho they already have same level trinkets that sim higher for them lol

[modest condor]

i have looted 2 augurys and only 1 signet brand

so statistics tells me signet brand is rarer

[clever belfry]

2 > 1

[last yoke]

Qwik maffs

[covert blaze]

pvp set goes hard

[covert blaze]

[clever belfry]

Since
2 - 1 > 1 - 1
<=> 1 > 0 (Corollary)

[spiral oasis]

the most basic of bitches

[last yoke]

If it's basic but it owns it isn't basic

[covert blaze]

Lmao what a fkn nerd

[spiral oasis]

prolly gonna put those shoulders on this mog so I ain't lookin like discount guldan

[covert blaze]

[clever belfry]

Real

[oblique trail]

Anda not using math terms or referencing math in any sort of way challenge

literally impossible

[spiral oasis]

nvm the colors don't work just checked

[clever belfry]

Wtf usually i flame math

[oblique trail]

For hating it you use it a lot

👴

[clever belfry]

(i know more math than the average person but im still bad at it)

[modest condor]

man

if you know that 1/3 is bigger than 1/4 you already know more math than the average person

[spiral oasis]

that doesn't make sense because 3> 4

[last yoke]

Please don't post depressing education facts

[spiral oasis]

wait i even messed up my

[clever belfry]

tbf i probs know more math than 99.9% of people

[spiral oasis]

am i disabled

[oblique trail]

[clever belfry]

real

[clever belfry]

yes

[last yoke]

You're in this disc so yes

[fathom valley]

Happy new yesr fellow kinhs

[spiral oasis]

[covert blaze]

American burger moment

[clever belfry]

this is indeed a quarter pounder moment

[oblique trail]

what the fuck is a pound

[last yoke]

I want my third pounder back

[modest condor]

[clever belfry]

🇺🇸 WHAT 🦅 THE 🦅 FUCK 🦅 IS 🦅 A🦅 KILOMETER 🇺🇸

[last yoke]

Eagle screech

[clever belfry]

tbf this sounds dogshit

has no ring to it

[last yoke]

Only cause we're not used to it

Because we're dumb

[clever belfry]

no its cause quartER and poundER have the same syllable as ending

[covert blaze]

Wish I could pound Anda

[clever belfry]

???

[last yoke]

Woah

[clever belfry]

not gayge sorry x

[covert blaze]

[wild mural]

Yoooo

[left perch]

ok it’s time

[clever belfry]

shut up automated email challenge

[left perch]

I need everyone to just stop whatever that ^ was

[clever belfry]

no

We livin in the future

[left perch]

getting pound offers

over a burger everyone knows rebranded

To Qpc

[clever belfry]

To what now

[left perch]

you need television

[clever belfry]

Ive not watched TV

in years

[left perch]

well it’s the new Hulu ads

the kids are calling them QPC

[clever belfry]

Ah yes cause hulu ads in DE

would be same as in the US

[left perch]

wait mc donald got you all calling them quarter pounder

and not 1.3 kilo burgers

[clever belfry]

no

they just have names

Like
Big Mac
Big Tasty
McChicken
Chickenburger

[covert blaze]

Royale with cheese

[left perch]

how do I always forget you’re DE

[clever belfry]

Cause i dont act like your average german

[left perch]

[clever belfry]

except flaming Americans at any opportunity that presents itself ofc

[left perch]

fair

[spiral oasis]

what did i do

[covert blaze]

That's normal for any country tbf

[covert blaze]

That's a very big burger

[spiral oasis]

Destro kinda owns

[clever belfry]

yeah just about 3 lbs

[covert blaze]

Tier set is fun

[spiral oasis]

Also the heroic shoulders fit my mog perfectly I'm boutta use a catty charge for this

and yeah I love tier sets that make something usually lame a viable option

[marble bison]

Just sad when they go away

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/sfm-soldier-tf2-meme-american-gif-24728385

[ashen socket]

Why does raider io have to be so buggy as of late

[neat gazelle]

for a fresh warrior with no tier from last season should they play annihilator or last season build

[sullen dove]

last season

anni talents only with new tier

2pc doable but rly kinda mid till 4pc anyway

youd just like, drop onslaught for odyns basically i think with 2pc

[covert blaze]

@sullen dove very good pfp

[sullen dove]

nah i'd win

[narrow narwhal]

That's not an anime woman

[modest condor]

people with anime woman pictures are degens anyway

[hallow sphinx]

wb real women

[white terrace]

Fury< = >Degen

[hardy cargo]

No u

[spiral oasis]

true

[narrow fossil]

the last fated season will have ilvl upgrade and new tier?

[unreal onyx]

ilvl definetly

new tier maybe

[narrow fossil]

hope so

this 10.2 tiers are boring

[young swan]

wouldnt get your hopes up

theres no reason for them to make a new tier set

[ashen socket]

Probs just gonna have all 3 tiers available from the expac

[narrow fossil]

its a new patch

[ashen socket]

that would be interesting

one would be good for aoe and one st for fury

[young swan]

its recycled content

"new"

[unreal onyx]

it's a new season

not exactly a full new patch

[narrow fossil]

they are so lazy

[young swan]

why does there need to be a new tier set without a new tier?

[unreal onyx]

new season =/= new tier

[ashen socket]

Nah blizz is probs done with putting much work into the expac outside of tuning changes

[unreal onyx]

but having to play T31 for another full season is kinda boring

[young swan]

they could just make war within bad instead!

[plucky egret]

Likely the same deal as season 4 in shadowlands where they just up the ilvl of the previous 3 season’s tier. Not a big deal.

[ashen socket]

I doubt war within would be bad if they did an actual patch

either way idc

I dont mind fated

[plucky egret]

Though I know in SL we only had a couple actual tier sets

[young swan]

it would be worse than it could be

[unreal onyx]

S4 SL had new tier tho

[young swan]

they would be taking dev time away from the next 3 xpac

[young swan]

no it didnt

s3 had tier for the first time since legion

and s4 had s3 tier

[wanton mirage]

let say if all tier sets are avilable wit same ilvl, will there be any 2+2 set that will surpass full 4 sets in theory?

[unreal onyx]

but S4 only had S3 tier then

with S4 DF we'd have 3 tiers to "choose" from

[young swan]

yeah but we dont know that

[fickle bluff]

[young swan]

thats just pure speculation

[ashen socket]

I think at the very least they should release a small 2-3 boss raid with fated and have a few developers do it. They have already proven that to be doable so I think it would be sick if they had that along fated

will it happen?

fuck no

[unreal onyx]

I would assume they make it just 1 tier through all raids

[ashen socket]

But alot less people would complain

[narrow fossil]

Usually the 4th tier is better than the 2nd

[plucky egret]

Guess we will all find out at the same time.

[hallow sphinx]

[narrow fossil]

Im surprised about how blizz cut more content every xpac and they get more expensive and ppl are ok with that

[hasty path]

expansion packs have been $40 or $50 since TBC came out

All since wod except SL were $50, including DF and TWW

[covert blaze]

[hasty path]

SL was $40 for some reason

[narrow fossil]

In my country this were'nt the prizes

and last expac will be more expensive if u want to play beta

[hasty path]

exchange rates definitely get fucky

[gilded pawn]

your country doesnt really matter

that depends on a lot of things

and you pay extra for 3 day acces

so what

[covert blaze]

SL should have been $2

[frosty heron]

does on sims i can do a multiple sims for weapon runes flask at the same time by modifying the file ?

[hasty path]

it really does

exchange rates are very inconsistent

in terms of actually corresponding to the US-centered pricing

[covert blaze]

It 100% does

[gilded pawn]

yeah

but saying that prices got more expesnive because it got more expensive in your country

doesnt really mean anything

a lot of it is currency fluctuation

as someone said prices of expacs have stayed teh same over a decade

[clever belfry]

p sure, adjusted for inflation, it's been getting cheaper here

[lapis lion]

thats 100% correct. adjusted for inflation, cheaper than ever i believe

[covert blaze]

tfw third world

[lapis lion]

hopefully your world gets buffed soon, 2nd and 1st world are simming a little high

[meager void]

temporary_enchant=disabled
flask=disabled

copy="Elemental Chaos"
flask=phial_of_elemental_chaos_3
copy="Tepid Versatility"
flask=phial_of_tepid_versatility_3
copy="Glacial Fury"
flask=phial_of_glacial_fury_3
copy="Corrupting Rage"
flask=iced_phial_of_corrupting_rage_3

copy="Primal Whetstone -> Attack Power"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3/off_hand:primal_whetstone_3
copy="Buzzing Rune -> Crit"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:buzzing_rune_3/off_hand:buzzing_rune_3
copy="Howling Rune -> Haste"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3/off_hand:howling_rune_3
copy="Hissing Rune -> Mastery"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:hissing_rune_3

[meager void]

👆 after your simstring in advanced sim

[covert blaze]

Yes I am

[hoary canopy]

Hi, it's not a fury related question but does anyone knows how to move the maker icons on nameplates ? Currently, the spell cds weakaura is hiding these markers for me.

[covert blaze]

On what

On plater?

[hoary canopy]

yes

[covert blaze]

I'm not at my PC rn and I don't remember from the top of my head

Post on #ui-addons-manager maybe someone remembers

[hoary canopy]

I'll do that, ty

[frosty heron]

thanks man

[ionic dirge]

Hello, does anyone know if you get buffed by evokers "Blistering Scales", will you get more strenght from this talent as well?

I have 13k armor, with it I have 19k

[modest condor]

no

[ionic dirge]

Just interested If it will boost you strenght

[modest condor]

they specifically excluded it because otherwise it was gonna be way too strong

[ionic dirge]

Oh okay 😄 Thanks

[wanton mirage]

Would we have been Firemage level strong in S2 if they permitted it?

[modest condor]

no

iirc it would have been something like 400 str

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[fiery harbor]

is there a place to read up on special exclusions like this? where and when do they mention them? or do people just discover it on their own by testing?

also happy new year

[modest condor]

hmm not that i know, some buffs use whitelists (like mastery only affects class abilities) which you can find on wowhead, but this specific one had a bluepost during ptr

[left perch]

I don’t know if there’s a list like that, I know there’s a ton of info on what is misattributed (and they feel should be) - so I imagine there’s a list of things that don’t work but they are not worried about?

[covert blaze]

Happy new year fury chat

[left perch]

(not yet wait)

[covert blaze]

I'm from the future

[left perch]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-meme-what-confused-gif-16191442

[hasty path]

Don’t u live in like peru

[covert blaze]

No

[hasty path]

What country I don’t remember

Don’t tel me you speak Portuguese

[covert blaze]

Argentina

[hasty path]

Oh ok as long as you don’t have an oddly German name

[covert blaze]

Italian-Spanish

[hasty path]

Italian

[covert blaze]

I have the most Italian last name possible

I don't speak Italian tho

[hasty path]

I come from a long bloodline of Italian leather

[covert blaze]

🥶🥶🥶

[gilded pawn]

wait really

they actually excluded that

thats actaully funny as hell

[clever path]

I got someone from this discord randomly pming me if I want to get a logo made? And they're asking for money?

[young swan]

scam

send it to #report-dms

[gilded pawn]

ill make a gojo logo

[olive wraith]

I can make you a logo. It costs 1 leggo

[fleet sorrel]

[clever path]

Looks like @left perch had the same message

Idk if they’re real? Just trying to make money or just a scammer

[left perch]

like it didn’t feel like scammer at first just, hungry artist

but clearly a thing

[olive wraith]

Artist looking for commission is a very common scam. I feel bad for any artist legitimately trying to find work like that

[left perch]

Ye prolly better to use fiverr or something instead of DMing people

[ashen socket]

Ladies and gents

I think I got the world firstt 2024 key brick

it bricked right on the new year

on the dot

[fiery harbor]

did u get an achievement

[left perch]

did you brick start or end

[ashen socket]

end

boss hit 50%

It hit 12

I dcd

key was done for

[left perch]

world first NA tho I guess

that sucks tho lol

[olive wraith]

On my alt a tank left a 14 tot right before the last hallway 5mins left because he didn’t want an untimed 14 on his raider io

[wanton mirage]

Happy New Year Every1

[covert blaze]

Kinda fkd up to start the year like that

[storm rune]

My IO could never recover

[olive wraith]

Doesn’t wanna waste 7 more minutes for loot. Just waste the first 30. All for raider io

I was tilted

[covert blaze]

14? Lmfao

[olive wraith]

Yes

Like it mattered

Clown

“I have 25s timed in my main” meanwhile he pulled the acid spitter, dog pat, and one of the side mobs in the room before first boss

We were all around 450 and he just dropped instantly

[slim coral]

We are down bad

[olive wraith]

is this dps only

[fiery thorn]

😠

[light lantern]

For keys, lets say you have a 5~6 mob pack right before a boss, do you guys hold cds like OF and Roar for the boss or burn them on the pack and just use them as they come up on the boss?

[olive wraith]

Send of

[autumn halo]

y'know

The fact that you removed what this graph even means disturbs the person that made it.

[autumn halo]

It comes from this

full tweet: https://x.com/bansheeirl/status/1741675228885901475?s=20

[dense elbow]

Tldu, it say warrior is fine?

[autumn halo]

[dense elbow]

[meager gyro]

fucking mage is fine, idk about warrior

new class always unbalanced and OP in some way, sucks that the way it's OP is via aug

[still swift]

wtf real bansheeirl coming in to fact check people

that's so based

[red berry]

and then they bounced

they are really cool though so that was a surprise

[clever path]

Random question but do we have to unlock flightstones? I just noticed I ran close to 8 keys and only have 96 flightstones?

[still swift]

did u make a spark or anything

[remote flower]

i have a new saying as a Fury Warrior
“Im as useless as the G in Lasagna”

Im there, I make up there group, and I dps….but thats as much as I can do XD

[frail cave]

so question: which tier piece is the worse one for fury?
i currently have helm shoulder chest legs

[inland flame]

Generally just use whatever your best offpiece is all things else equal. But the hat from AD is good, and there are pants from raid I think? That are good.

And when in doubt,

[covert blaze]

Helm or pants I think but it's very minor afaik

[autumn halo]

I'll stay, thank you both for the kind words @still swift and @red berry

[slim coral]

I like to meme the state of warrior it’s what I do

As someone who struggles to get into 27s due to not being “meta” it’s how I vent

[elder vessel]

is there a way to keep brand up

like as much as possible

or is it just rng

[covert blaze]

There's a long wowhead article about that

It was posted recently

[summer quail]

You can hit critters if there are any nearby

[fiery harbor]

ive been enjoying Infurious Warboots of Impunity in m+. the boots effect seems to trigger from charge root, so every 30 seconds i get a mini potion effect just from charging in. plus it has vers mastery

[strong zephyr]

Happy new year boys

[paper ivy]

Happy new year

Is that a void elf or blood elf?

[fallen ginkgo]

Thats a voidelf

[paper ivy]

They are the second best race for fury after human atm

Is it that bad to change faction in a server which is mostly horde populated? ( charc is horde atm)

[fallen ginkgo]

Kind of, your trade chat will be almost empty so looking for random ppl to craft something is kinda hard. But if you have guildmembers who can craft or just a 70 horde character to get into the horde trade chat fixes the problem, cuz you can just switch characters if you know what i mean

Empty trade chat is the only downside iirc

Ah and ofc you cant queue for lfr ect with horde ppl

[paper ivy]

I have many charc on that server, i want start with pvp and being alliance on a horde populated server means fast matches right?

[fallen ginkgo]

Idk about that, sry

[covert blaze]

next year for sure

[paper ivy]

Np thanks for ur time

[summer quail]

i'm alliance on a horde dominated server(draenor) seems fine to me

[paper ivy]

then i shall join the alliance

[meager gyro]

75k get that silly helm that doesn't match anything now, glad I saved my tender

now it'll actually match stuff

[fickle bluff]

its not the same helm

[meager gyro]

recolor yeah

[somber elk]

why cant I buy from Ms Xiulan?

[fickle bluff]

only active in NA for the moment

[somber elk]

ah ty

[hollow elk]

Surely a New Year's will bring us some Lego for all

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[hollow elk]

[eternal sundial]

PVP is cross server anyways

[jade cipher]

guys

is there a way to have this weak aura for spellreflect to show me the spell even when my reflect is cd?

[eternal sundial]

Youd use the generic target spell wa

Which you can find on wago

S3 m+ targetted spells weakaura should get ur result if you google it

[frosty heron]

hey guys can any body help me with raidbot ? can't quite maximize my gear xD

[fading sky]

?_? theres nothing to do ? sim what u got and it tells ya what to do

[tardy lark]

Pretty sure he wants someone with more iterations to sim his shit

[indigo quarry]

wow dont be cheap !

[left perch]

Paid actor ^

[indigo quarry]

[frosty heron]

no shit 😄

just tryna get some help

[desert cloud]

Eyo

What do u need anyway

[frosty heron]

well guess i went to the wrong channel to ask for some help lol

[desert cloud]

I can help u if u promise to explain to me how tf can i do a presentation about web services

[frosty heron]

i have a lot of gear in the bag and 16m is not enough and i try to do multiple sims and it always varies and i try to get into the maxed all with my gear in my bag

[desert cloud]

Just select everything and sim it no ?

Since u got the premium

[frosty heron]

16m is the max and it doesnt fit

xD

specially with gems and enchant included

[desert cloud]

Damn then just don’t sim gear that has crit haste

Cuz u most likely won’t use them

And remove some trinkets

Only select 4 good ones

For example branch

U ain’t using that if u got signet

Or augery

Or tott trinket

[frosty heron]

i got signet but not augery

got rezan

[desert cloud]

What are u simming ?

[frosty heron]

pt 1 target 5mins

[desert cloud]

Then signet will always sim better so select that

[frosty heron]

trying to sims with tepid or raged with x2 hising

[desert cloud]

What trinkets do u have

[frosty heron]

cause i did advanced and hissing gives me the best weapon rune

[desert cloud]

Sim with base settings

[frosty heron]

default ?

[desert cloud]

Then do the advanced thingey when ur gear is locked in

[frosty heron]

ok

gonna try that

[desert cloud]

Also rings

Rings are the thing that causes the most iterations

[frosty heron]

i so much ring

xD

got all rings except igria's

[desert cloud]

Well well well

Some are clearly bad

Like the BRH crit one

[frosty heron]

and i saw a guide it says nightly is better than weekly in patchwork

[desert cloud]

Yea use the latest one i think

But since warriors didn’t get touched since fuking ptr

It don’t matter

The api is still the same

[frosty heron]

oh lol xD

[covert void]

A lot of people aren't using their newest spark. People saving them?

[oblique trail]

Either saving or have nothing to craft

[true sapphire]

It's not that I'm saving my spark, more that I'm saving crests for a minute.

[covert void]

Yeh I'm a little stuck. ring would be.5-1% increase, but a socketed ring will pretty much do the same thing.

Got socketed bracers yesterday so tempted to go out of allied, and go for second patch. 0.1% m+ damage upgrade (wowee) but more single target I guess for raid. Dunno. Minimal gains all round.

[frosty heron]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/t4SCh49FqAvYr6fybkXEyg

@desert cloud

[covert void]

Frostfire legs are actually big improvement sim wise for m+ but I hardly see anyone using them lol.

[frosty heron]

with the talent i gain around 450~ str with the frostfire legs

[barren dagger]

is pips kind of dogshit for us?

[warm crag]

theres better but its alright

[clever path]

good in aoe

[covert void]

just simmed my molten belt, with socket, but the sim removed it? it doesn't get removed when recrafting does it or?

[warm crag]

it removes it if its a s2 socket

[covert void]

Oh, that's why then.

ty

[frosty heron]

what's the uptime for corrupted rage in sims if i use that flask ?

[fickle bluff]

you choose it

[eternal sundial]

80% ish

[covert void]

3.6% damage increase just from getting frostfire legguards, and switching allied with socketed bracers. I guess they're good again. That's even replacing 489 myth tier legs.

[eternal sundial]

link sim for that

sounds scuff

[covert void]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6Lt1FH2eKNmDezkXuv5PPA

[eternal sundial]

dslice is whack anyways

haste legs are dogass this ssn imo

[covert void]

I mean, if you say so. I'm not doing patchwork for m+

and dungeon slice, with any other option, this still seems the best by a mile atm

2nd crafted ring? .5-1%

just because of socket

[eternal sundial]

your choice if you have the spark to spend go ahead

[covert void]

I mean, of course lol?

how do you sim for m+ then

[eternal sundial]

i personally go for 5t 5 min patchwerk with some feelcraft on the side for trinkets

[covert void]

I mean, I can try that too and see what it says

[spiral night]

Probadly should ditch the legs byg

[eternal sundial]

haste is just such a weirs stat this season and dslice props the legs up a tad

so i wouldnt end up making them since for your st gear you probably have another safe upgrade with the ring

[covert void]

that's fair mate, I see 1 or 2 using them in the top 10 but not many really. All other options atm for crafted seem pretty much meh increases.

also tempted to just go ring, as havent got a socketed ring yet. Guess it ticks that off lmao.

[eternal sundial]

i might make them for arms next spark week since i dont have fury upgrades from sparks anymore

[oblique trail]

Embellishments in general aren't super meaningful

[eternal sundial]

as a for fun item mainly

[oblique trail]

If you already got 2x of the good ones, swapping them around will yield very minimal differences

[covert void]

I think just getting the socketed bracers threw a spanner in there but you're right allied or 2nd patch seems about the same at this point.

well, maybe not for ST but hey.

[misty helm]

Raidbots Premium worth?

and which one

[oblique trail]

It's worth if you sim a lot

And which one depends on what you want to spend

[misty helm]

I sim literally everything

[balmy shore]

my guild shares one

[oblique trail]

I've always used the biggest one

[eternal sundial]

ive stolen someones idk what tier it is

[frosty heron]

what u usualy sims for m+ ?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dqVvwUFrPvXrVN2Q5uxiAb

tried 5 target 3mins

and dugeon slice is this one

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/doK3sD8i66BiLNUq9QuGKm

using nullification cause it's just 250 higher than crab for this one

[fading sky]

i mean 1 thing is sim another thing is just

like u always have the versa when u use cds

crab has a higher variance

[clever path]

i run st sims and just change trinkets

[frosty heron]

5min patchwork ?

and try the trinks ?

i mean with spear ?

[clever path]

run st patchwerk

with st build then just change talents

and change trinkets

on use + passive

ideally might + augury

I don't have augury so i run ember

🦀

is a good trinket

might crab is a good combo

throne jail

signet can be played on high tyra if you can keep up the stacks

if you dont start bosses with 15 stacks augury will beat it

alternatively you can run rezans as well

[violet trail]

Augery and Might for keys is a nice safe bet

[clever path]

I got a 489 rezan and a 489 might yest still no signet or augury

[wanton mirage]

489 Rezan still gives me ~3% on Forti weeks and 5% on Tyrani weeks. it is still good one to use in m+ if you dont have Augury

[past pivot]

There are 7 or 8 better trinkets than Rezan's for M+

[wanton mirage]

if rezen is 483, yes.

[oblique trail]

6 ilvl wont suddenly make Rezan spike in value

[wanton mirage]

it still pushs up to respectable compareable level of other 483 aoe trinkets.

[past pivot]

Rezan is not an AOE trinket tho. You'd likely do better with Augury, Might, Crab, Ember, Gore, Pips, Mirror before Rezan's in AOE. Maybe even Signet

[wanton mirage]

What i said is Might and Augury is bis. if you don't have Augury, you can still use Rezen.

signet is meh when you cant chain pull. Mirrorr akward.
So there is only crab, gore , ember and pip to compete.

and they are not that even that good in trinkets in aoe

[oblique trail]

Ember arguably is a very good AoE trinket

It's a very good stat stick that I'd personally only swap out for Augury

Or Signet if your group/dungeon allows it

[past pivot]

CRab is very good in AOE. Ember is very good. Pips is very good in AOE. All better than Rezan. Any situation in M+ where you might use Rezan, I'd use Signet.

[wanton mirage]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qhvnPHTp5j5P5XnPzpFJnd
in 1T and 3T sims , 489 rezen is outsimming Ember and Crab

its only 5T , rezen lose to Ember by 3.4k

thats why i think 489 can push it to comparable lvl

i know i would choose others in a heartbeat if they are same ilvl

[calm ermine]

Sim is telling to use Reckles after charge. Charge > Reckles > Rampage. I dont know why, maybe cuz autoattks rage reg., but sometimes, rarelly, i dont generate enough rage for rampage. Should i use Reckles before Charge?

[red dirge]

what is this monlth reward some wrists?

[wanton mirage]

rolex

[modest condor]

your apl is wrong btw, the buff is not called whirlwind in sims, it's called meat cleaver

[wanton mirage]

i sim again with 483 rezen in 5T, it loses to Ember with 5.5 k

[wanton mirage]

could you fixed it up for me? i just copied it from some guy here

it is simming better than current one in aoe

[modest condor]

it just happens to kinda work out right now because there's a cooldown on whirlwind, but if you tried to sim that without sos it would just spam whirlwind lol

just go to the multitarget whirlwind line and change buff.whirlwind.down to buff.meat_cleaver.down

[wanton mirage]

gotcha. thank u very much

[edgy widget]

It does so to play nice with the lego and other alignments, but you can pre-charge; there’s no performative difference as far as the sim is concerned

[frosty heron]

on a tott 24 and that damage is a 95 rogue and mine is 98 . damn

[clever path]

I know class discords hate these types of questions, I'm sure (sorry haha) but I finally have a good feel for fury, and it's real fun (almost made me convert my main from enh to fury lol) but I'm jw how arms feels compared to fury? I know slower apm and probably playstyle, but overall feel. I've always played fast melee, so wondering if a slower one might be just as fun?

[past pivot]

Fun is subjective

[chrome relic]

I like arms. It's a lot different than fury but it's a good time

good if you wanna shake things up for some keys or something

[summer quail]

i think arms is very fun, just not in a good spot for raid unfortunately. fury and arms very close in m+ tho

[fickle bluff]

the only "slower" part is a little less haste, still gcd locked

[coarse nest]

I prefer arms but fury performs better right now imo

[chrome relic]

like fury is my fav spec in the game but if arms was meta i wouldnt mind playing it for a tier

[nocturne dragon]

Btw about sim... what gain do you guys consider "high" gain? is 1% gain considered high already?

[coarse nest]

1% gains are worth farming for imo, yes

[summer quail]

1% for me is pretty high so ye

[humble plover]

Number go up

Chase number till it doesn't go up

[summer quail]

like 1.3% is a bit over 3k dps for me. definetely a decent amount

[coarse nest]

Run droptimizer until no upgrades can be farmed

then play around with gear compare

[humble plover]

Then ask for buffs

Repeat

[summer quail]

getting close to 240k sim now

[sinful spoke]

the new trading post set is nice

[desert cape]

https://tenor.com/view/triumph-triumphinsultcomicdog-insultcomicdog-conanobrien-conan-gif-26265098

[viscid arrow]

Quick question, is fury far ahead of arms in raid?

[young swan]

yes

[summer quail]

yes, but if you want to play arms that's fine. atleast until smolderon

[viscid arrow]

How so? Until Smold that is 😮

[summer quail]

fury noticeably better on those bosses. especially tswift

[viscid arrow]

I prefer arms, but don't wanna gimp the raid

[summer quail]

bosses before smolderon are pretty easy so no matter what you play you won't gimp the raid

[viscid arrow]

Cool, thanks 🙂

[summer quail]

for mythic that is, for heroic who cares

[jade crest]

Hi guys. How do you play opener with legendary?

[past pivot]

check the pins

[fluid cedar]

#fury message

[crystal needle]

trying to understand something about my sim

when I look at the top logs for Smolderon Mythic for example everyone is playing augury + signet but for me signet (even normal) + Rezan trinket is the same (normal) or more (hc and up) in DPS, how come?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4cCjsdStG2Foy2K8wwRVTz

[restive peak]

Augury is busted as fuck, it's 1 of those "doesn't sim right but is S tier" things

[crystal needle]

aaah oookey cause I was playing some keys with it and it seemed really strong even on bosses so i was really confused

[coarse nest]

Yeah augury is pretty much best in all cases if you have one

[restive peak]

I have 489 rezans and 483 augury, on fights where I've run both and similar uptime/usage (there's always RNG so it's not 110% accurate), augury is almost always higher. It's also above brand a lot of the time except the later fights on reclear

Like I genuinely may run 489 rez/483 aug on reclear, I think brand is insanely overrated thusfar

Except the latter, longer fights

[past pivot]

Signet can suck in keys if you can't keep stacks up. It's not really made for keys. Should be using Augury + Might for M+

[violet trail]

Rezan is good for ST. I run Rezan and Augery atm for raid.

[restive peak]

Brand feels like the simtrap of the season, really.

[violet trail]

Signet compared to Rezan is like a 2k increase for me

[restive peak]

Tindral/Fyrakk are super long so it's solid, otherwise for reclear even it NEVER hits 15 stacks, or if it does not for long

[past pivot]

Mythic?

[summer quail]

hits 15 stacks on nymue and larodar. idk the average kill time for bosses tho, and we 5 heals larodar

[gray bramble]

yeah for mythic i feel like from nymue/larodar and up signet is really good

[restive peak]

We killed nymue before 3rd add phase this week, so is was fairly underwhelming there even

[gray bramble]

ahhh i see

[restive peak]

Basically only getting to 15 on smolder/tind, and obvi will fyrakk when we get there

I ran it on volocross, we killed it at 3:44 and it was dogshit

Like 2.5mil dmg

[summer quail]

i also ran it last time on volcoross. never again, it did 2.7% of my damage

[oblique trail]

At least Brand makes you look good on sim numbers

Very important

[restive peak]

xD

[gray bramble]

lmfao

its kinda only good for prog then reclear its kinda bad

[restive peak]

Yep

Well, smolder rekills it'll reach 15 regardless

You're never gonna 3.5-4m smoldy even with how ez it is no

[summer quail]

what's your larodar kill time lincc? was good there for me but we prob kill it really slow. like almost 6m

[restive peak]

5:21 fastest

So still solid there

But if you're doing fast push strat...I'd still argue it may not be best

Like lust pull try to skip 3rd hose phase strat

And rezans/brand are still interchangable dmg wise, realistically, except rezans is static and brand depends on time

IDK man, I really feel it's the simtrap of the season

[oblique trail]

I mean it'll do more or less as good as it sims, depending on the time you give it

[restive peak]

Any fight 5m+ it's BIS

[oblique trail]

It'll beat basically everything if you sim 5+ minutes which makes sense

[restive peak]

Anything below, probably not BIS

[oblique trail]

Like in boost runs I sometimes run Brand

[restive peak]

You also have to remember in a fight like larodar/nymue, there is actually quite a bit of downtime in the 5min killtime

[oblique trail]

But otherwise I'd just run Rezan

[restive peak]

Between the movement on nymue, and the charges/swap offs on larodor

[oblique trail]

Tbf on Nymue you have very little downtime

Unless you get perma bombs

You can quickly make it out to the adds or back to the boss

[restive peak]

I mean the travel time between adds and back and general RP, it's still 30-40s overall downtime

In a 5m kill

Effectively bringing the "uptime" killtime down to 4:15-4:20 (blazeit)

Ofc brand is still a great trinket, if you have it you should probably run it besides the 1st 3, I'm just saying it's not as must have/far above rezans/augury as some think

But also rezans relies on RNG; you either vault a mythc track or it's not better

I got rezans 1st vault, so ez for me to swap around

[nocturne dragon]

what about crab trinket

[coarse nest]

crab is great in aoe

M+

[oblique trail]

Crab isn't really that good in raid

Compared to alternatives

[restive peak]

Crab good for M+, might/aug noticably better, crab not good for raid

[past pivot]

Shoulda been here earlier for the convo about running Rezan's in M+ over almost every other trinket

[restive peak]

I definitely did not say rezans for M+ LOL

I was talking about shorter kill time raid bosses

[zinc kraken]

Or just make crests account wide

Can use however u see fit

[oblique trail]

Who's talking about crests?

[zinc kraken]

Wrong channel wooops

[summer quail]

[nocturne dragon]

I see... well currently my best only rezan + crab so I am gonna use it, no luck yet. I got the spike counterweight but we all agree it's really bad.

[edgy widget]

its ok on Tindral, since a lot of the time isn't actual effective damage or is AoE - Augury/on-use may be as good or better

[past pivot]

I thought Crests was a new trinket. 😄

[edgy widget]

but yes, generally anything under 4m is not worth prioritizing Brand

[nocturne dragon]

I think tomorrow's vault I will be in dillema

[restive peak]

ye I'm runnin aug/ocean now for tindy

[restive peak]

Go farm TOTT 17+ for hours til might

Also HAPPY NEW YEARS YA FUCKS

[oblique trail]

gz on new year

[restive peak]

xD

2024 leggo surely

[nocturne dragon]

man... I farmed BRH for the ring of contempt but never drop, let alone that might trinket from ToTThahaha.

[restive peak]

Gotta farm ocean if you're even semi competitive, really.

It's just too good

[past pivot]

Augury or socket. That's pretty much all Vault can offer that's not a minor upgrade

[restive peak]

489 ocean pls blizz

[nocturne dragon]

also for M+, what people usually use to "gatekeep" on the party forming? Rating? Ilvl?

[oblique trail]

Class

But usually your score

Most people now are 485~ ilvl

[restive peak]

Class/Score

[nocturne dragon]

score means the number at that certain dungeon right?

[coarse nest]

total M+ score

applying to 24s with 3k is even hard to get invited unless youre one of the "meta" classes

[manic gulch]

hello

is crit bad on fury warrior ?

[nocturne dragon]

if gatekeep class... what is our status now as fury? Top but not gigameta?

[coarse nest]

fury has completed 28s so were fine

the pug brain will not want you though

[oblique trail]

It's okay

[azure summit]

people wont invite you at 3k to a 10 if youre not “meta” but yeah no groupthink and most people are idiots

[young swan]

like middle of the pack

[oblique trail]

All stats are fine for Fury in general, with Mastery being the best overall

[manic gulch]

i went for mastery > haste > crit > versality but i saw someone going full into mastery = haste = versality

[oblique trail]

However Crits value increases a bit in AoE

[manic gulch]

and having very little crit

[oblique trail]

I wouldn't worry too much about what order of stats you're prioritising, and simply just sim yourself on Raidbots

If a piece of gear has Mastery on it, it's usually a good enough piece

[azure summit]

depends on you and factors like trinkets, combats, even things like latency

[oblique trail]

Latency is the last thing to consider when it comes to your stats

[azure summit]

i’m not putting a hierarchy into any of it, i was just offering multiple factors.

[manic gulch]

i can sim using different % of stats to see the results ?

[oblique trail]

No

Use Top Gear

Compare different pieces of gear you got, different enchants and gems as well

Then use whatever it tells you is the best setup with whatever you give it

And when it comes to picking gems/enchants, just pick mastery/vers options

[manic gulch]

i see

thanks so much!

[azure summit]

idk, ive gotten some shit recs from my sims, so also rerun and double check your selections if you’re uncertain of that you’re seeing

[young swan]

the sim is only as good as the simmer

[azure summit]

cause usually it means i forgot to choose something

[manic gulch]

i read that i should always expect a little lower of whatever the sim is showing

because in game things will never be perfect

[oblique trail]

You'll never be exactly at what you sim, unless you're looking at target dummy sims

The only close-ish fight rn to Patchwerk would be Volcoross

[past pivot]

Sims are a guide of what you could do under those circumstances not what you should be doing in-game

[young swan]

unfortunately volcoross doesnt fit into the 5 min window that most sims are run at

cause its a joke of a fight but yeah thats the only fight this raid where u could reasonably expect to hit your patchwerk 5 min sim

[sudden tusk]

ah yes the third boss that has like 30% less health then the second boss

its not that bad but the second boss has way too much health

[barren dagger]

you basically have 100% uptime on volcoross no?

[oblique trail]

You do

[azure summit]

but its also like a two minute fight

[young swan]

you shouldnt have lower than effectively 100%

unless if u do u did something wrong

[oblique trail]

This is when someone out of nowhere says his raid leader forces him into a range camp soak and they're unwilling to place the range camp soak in melee despite this for zero reason

[young swan]

thats a carlo moment

[plucky ice]

just let them die and kill boss

[azure summit]

or something happened to force you off uptime, but thats usually a matter of move through not away

[plucky ice]

[young swan]

hence "unless if you did something wrong"

[azure summit]

i just like not blame words but carry on

or if you just CBA to always do 100% on a farm or a vault filling pickup, lets be real

[restive peak]

You can always have uptime on volo lol

[oblique trail]

Sweating reclears = quicker vault fills

[restive peak]

Huge hitbox

[coarse nest]

sweating reclears is the only thing keeping it tolerable

[azure summit]

okay

[eternal sundial]

Sweating rekills is the only time you get logs

Proglogs zzz

[wanton mirage]

its so werid in visually. you are just standing miles away from boss and waving your 2 big sticks in the air furiously

[azure summit]

seems boring, i meme and experiment if it’s clearly not going to take much work to get it done. seems like a good opportunity and go ahead and crucify me if that offends you for whatever reason

[oblique trail]

I don't think anyone's offended

If you want to have fun reclearing doing something different then that's fine and cool

[coarse nest]

I mean you can do whatever you want right?

[oblique trail]

Everyone has fun in different ways

[gentle onyx]

Hey lads, haven’t played fury since start of DF, but coming back to it now. Do we send reck and avatar together still?

[oblique trail]

My way of mixing it up is playing either Arms or Fury for a reclear if I know it wont make a tangible difference

[oblique trail]

Depends on when in the fight but generally no

[gentle onyx]

Sorry should have specified m+ only. Fuck raiding

[oblique trail]

On the opener, you space out your cooldowns (except for 1 raid boss Smolderon), and mid fight you'd reck -> avatar -> roar/m+

[azure summit]

i mix up my trinkets and micro adjust stuff, play with timings

[oblique trail]

Whether it's raid or M+ it basically goes for both of them

You change up the order depending on if you have Odyns Fury ready or not basically

It's either
Reck + Charge -> Ramp -> OF -> Roar/Spear -> BB -> Ramp -> Avatar (whenever it's about to fall off from OF) -> BB -> Ramp and so on, mix in WWs if needed during AoE

If you're mid pull/going to a pack with no OF, you can simply Reck -> Charge -> Ramp -> Avatar -> Roar

Or remove charge ramp if you're already in a pack and enraged

[gentle onyx]

Ah ok easy thanks mate

[azure summit]

^ this but also keep in mind its a separation of a couple seconds tops

[barren dagger]

lariat simming 2k more than my mastery/crit 489 neck. on a 5m patchwerk. sounds correct? i have 3 other sockets in my gear

[azure summit]

if it helps your tempo keeping for it

[oblique trail]

If you just have 1 embellishment on for some reason, then sure it sounds accurate

But are you comparing a 2x embellishment setup to 1x of whatever other you have + lariat

[barren dagger]

oh im dumbo i already have shadowflame plus bracers

sounds like a bad investment

[oblique trail]

Lariat is fine for M+/AoE in general compared to Shadowflame

[coarse nest]

I'm planning to go lariat+vers wrist on reset

[barren dagger]

would be a m+ only set then?

[oblique trail]

You can go vers/shadowflame + Lariat in raid too

It wont matter a whole lot

Embellishments are fairly minor as long as you have 2x of any of the good ones

[barren dagger]

ok thx

[regal trellis]

what are these weapons?

[fickle bluff]

hidden artifact appearance

[devout matrix]

Are all 2H weapons for warriors the same? I.e. the damage stats on crafted halbreds, claymores, axes, etc., all vary for the same item level. Is this legitimate, or do they all do the same damage?

[coarse nest]

pick youre flavor

all are identical damage wise

[unreal onyx]

just take whatever has the best tmog to you

[devout matrix]

I wonder why blizz still puts differing damage stats on them. Seems confusing for beginners

[nova garnet]

Avoid int staves

[coarse nest]

its a thing of the past

[covert void]

Could be wrong but, I think they want an aug?

[coarse nest]

we used to care about weapon dps

now we do not

[devout matrix]

Thanks all, happy new year

[nova garnet]

You quite literally do

Weapon DPS is converted to attack power.

It's the differing ranges we don't care about.

[inland flame]

Ya that was poorly worded. He means we don't care about topends or attack speed or whatever.

[nova garnet]

DPS we do. But they are all equalized anyways.

Yeah, that shits all equalized now thankfully

[coarse nest]

the guy was asking about sword vs axe vs mace

my answer was accurate

[inland flame]

It isn't imba to have a 4.0 weapon for your Mortal Strikes anymore because they don't exist. Weapon speed and everything is normalized.

[summer quail]

makes sense, that trinket owns

[covert void]

heard that yeah, wouldn't know.

[devout matrix]

Which trinket?

[inland flame]

I have an Augury on my Enhance alt and Feral alt and it does so well by my main can't get one. 😭

[wanton mirage]

was there problems or complaints when it existed? did not play long enough yet.

[inland flame]

Gearing back then was just very different, and had quirks like that. I don't know if anyone ever complained too much.

[restive peak]

I think it's so funny how many 25 and lower groups don

dont understand they're gimping their grp 75% of the time

Cuz most augs suck at properly playing, and the DPS aren't top tier, so aug loses a ton of value

[nova garnet]

90% of augs value is turning tank into a god

It's less about the DPS, and making your tank basically unkillable

[restive peak]

If your tank is dying in a 25, they're pretty meh anyway, let's be real. Or undergeared.

[past pivot]

Aug in M+ is pretty much brain dead. Don't need to target anyone to do well. Just go through rotation and keep ebon might up.

[restive peak]

The amount of 50%ish uptime ebon might Augs I see

In 25/26s

Is insane

[devout matrix]

There's still a bit of nuance in Prescience casts, but it's way simpler in M+ than raid.

[oblique trail]

True I died in a +20 so I might as well delete my character

[nova garnet]

That's what my weak aura does LOL

[nova garnet]

I died in a +18

Pretty easy, just fuck up your mitigation

[restive peak]

I mean...you said it BRUH

[nova garnet]

Or make rotational mistakes and starve yourself of resources

[restive peak]

Also who's runnin a prot warr these days xD

[nova garnet]

Until you eventually decay and die

[oblique trail]

Tbf prot does a lot of dps

[restive peak]

Ye and dies

😛

[oblique trail]

So for those disgusting rat weeklies from alts

It's quick

It only dies easily if there for some reason is 58342 instances of magic damage going through

[restive peak]

Half the dungeons or more this tier

[nova garnet]

It's takes like these why no one wants brown DPS in parties

[restive peak]

Haha

[nova garnet]

Prot warrior is gg

[inland flame]

It has issues with dots and heavy spell damage but prot warr is invincible against melees and phys dam in general rn

[nova garnet]

False

Even everbloom that is 60% magic

[oblique trail]

It's true in my very anecdotal experience

[nova garnet]

Prot warrior is fine

[restive peak]

Brown DPS doesn't die

[past pivot]

Shield reflect is OP no matter who does it

[nova garnet]

Prot warrior ints against bleeds

But magic damage is fine

[eternal sundial]

Eh

[nova garnet]

Between reflect and spellblock

[eternal sundial]

Wouldnt go that far

[nova garnet]

I've had to go over people's everbloom logs

And compare to pikas

And it's always

[restive peak]

I mean we can't even pretend prot warr is as good as VDH/Prot

[oblique trail]

It's not VDH/Prot pala yeah

[nova garnet]

The mistakes are usually just, you didn't send a CD there and wasted 20 uses of spellblock

[inland flame]

There's a difference between not-best and bad

[eternal sundial]

Prot has infinitely less stops or offhealing so why bother

Wcyd

[restive peak]

Prot warr, when compared to the other tanks, is bad.

Serviceable doesn't mean good

Can make work doesn't mean good

[nova garnet]

Go post this in #protection

Lol

Because warrior really isn't bad.

[restive peak]

What tank is it above

I'd like a tier list where prot warr isn't the bottom

[wanton mirage]

my pugs don't understand how having fury war as dps make healer life easier to do mechanic, affix and heal squishies better.

[nova garnet]

You lost me at "tierlist"

[restive peak]

You lost me at pretending prot warr isn't noticably weaker than the other tank specs

Is this 1 of those "FUCK THE META BRO HASHTAG EDGEY" arguments?

Because Pika making prot warr work while playing with 4 of the best players in the world, while also being 1 of the best, doesn't mean prot warr isn't dogshit compared to the other tank specs

There are spriests and augless groups timing 29/30s, does that mean spriest is good and augless is good when compared? No.

So they're bad, but serviceable played perfectly with 4 other perfect playing people

[clever path]

28 rise time

[modest condor]

how is that any different from the best people in the world playing those keys with a full meta comp tho?

like yeah pika is playing with some of the best players in the world

[restive peak]

It's like saying LeBron would dunk on you w 1 hand behind his back, therefore anyone can do it.

[modest condor]

but so are the people he's competing against

[indigo quarry]

shit i missed the tierlist talk

[inland flame]

I mean I was under the impression bear was accepted as the worst tank in keys rn, but still totally doable up to 1-2 levels above top

Like tank balance this season actually pretty good tbh

[restive peak]

It's just goalpost moving, from prot is good to "WELL IT CAN BE MADE TO WORK" ok, and you think it needs NO buffs then?

[indigo quarry]

how would you buff them without making them turbo broken

[olive wraith]

I thought prot was good this season

[indigo quarry]

tank gets easily out of control when buffed

[restive peak]

You truly think prot warr is equal to VDH/PP? Like, really?

Ok then

[inland flame]

Lol like I said there's a difference between not-best and bad

[modest condor]

look through this whole conversation, did anyone at any point say that they think prot war is equal to vdh/pp?

[indigo quarry]

i've seen too many VDH flopping hard

[olive wraith]

I didn’t say equal to vdh

[inland flame]

I don't think anyone did lol

[indigo quarry]

so not sure if its good anymore

[modest condor]

you're telling other people they're moving goalposts while making a strawman yourself

[restive peak]

My point was it is noticable weaker than them

So any argument that isn't about that isn't the argument I made

So yes, it's pretty relevant to MY point

Did I say prot warr can do no content and should be removed? No, but you'd think I did from the reactions.

[clever path]

overrated imo

[olive wraith]

You also said war was at bottom

[clever path]

prot pala is better

[restive peak]

Of the tank specs

[olive wraith]

Which I don’t think is the case

[rotund ginkgo]

real and based

[clever path]

playing with a prot pala + aug makes the game so easy

[restive peak]

^

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[clever path]

real?

[restive peak]

This also started from discussing M+ meta in HIGH keys

[rotund ginkgo]

not based

[restive peak]

And somehow devolved into 1 of those "LOLMETASDONTMATTER?" arguments

[modest condor]

why are you thinking so black and white

[clever path]

28 rise is world first level

?

[modest condor]

you're literally making things up

[restive peak]

It's an upper key bro

I'm not, I made a passing comment, and it somehow became this big thing

[modest condor]

you made a passing comment, people disagreed with it, you started acting like people were saying prot warrior is on the same level as vdh/pp and meta doesn't matter while nobody ever said either of those things

[restive peak]

I said it wasn't, and that should've been the end

But ok

[nova garnet]

@modest condor happy new year

Love you bb

[iron portal]

Yuzu going wild in Skyhold lately

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/muzeke-gif-27066381

[nova garnet]

Ive known them for years

Gotta be cheery with the homies

[iron portal]

I saw offtopic

[nova garnet]

Cause the world is just

[iron portal]

I can imagine

[nova garnet]

Shut your skull of guldan mouth

[iron portal]

Not going to look that up in gifs 👀

[wanton mirage]

it could just be the perception of which level is good. Prot warrior now do 2 keys lower than Prot pala. For someone it might just be "only 2 keys worse" , for others it might be "omg 2 keys better" so yeah its better stop like this. 🙂

[nova garnet]

[brittle crow]

time for my weekly 10 runs of siege of orgrimmar

wish me luck

[wanton mirage]

gd luck , new year new shoulder

[left perch]

I also slightly regret off topic

[left perch]

They don’t exist trust me

[inland flame]

Just get them back in MoP

[astral path]

ive done it

2nd fury warrior up and running

only alts are fury alts from now on 🙂

[wanton mirage]

why would you do this?

[dapper goblet]

i dont wanna be dramatic a second time but...fury is stinky

[oblique trail]

i dont wanna be dramatic for the first time but...xeoswonka is stinky

[restive peak]

Which was what I was saying, but I digress, the argument clearly went off the rails lol

[nova garnet]

Come cuddle

Regret later

[dense elbow]

Ayayaya

[restive peak]

That's the 1st time I've opened Off topic and the fuk

[dapper goblet]

offtopic is like smelling salts

[iron portal]

it sounds appealing at first but then you do it and you regret it

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-spinning-spin-frog-fast-gif-19458242

[left perch]

the mods make you go to off topic when you do too many non-fury posts in fury post forum

[balmy shore]

me too gl to u

[summer quail]

offtopic nr 2

[brittle crow]

just finished

no tusks

[balmy shore]

😭

[brittle crow]

i believe in u tho

[balmy shore]

i only do it on like 5 characters but i'm already 0-2

[brittle crow]

i do it on 5 too

heroic n mythic

[balmy shore]

wait

it can drop on heroic too?

i just do it on mythic

[brittle crow]

slightly lower drop rate i think? but its already so low it doesnt rly matter

[balmy shore]

aa

[brittle crow]

do it on heroic, make group, drop group, get teleported to graveyard, do it on mythic, hearth back to two moons

repeat unless ur a vulpera then u set camp instead of make/drop group

also make sure ur doing the rp skip with the jellies

[balmy shore]

ya ya

[left perch]

can you do that on scroll skip?

[brittle crow]

yea just walk backwards thru the door

[left perch]

I thought the door behind was locked

[brittle crow]

wait for jellies to spawn

[left perch]

wtf lol

[brittle crow]

i mean u have to click the door

[balmy shore]

oh you've got a whole thing

[brittle crow]

not locked tho

[left perch]

wild

[balmy shore]

i sit and watch the whole rp like a dummy

[brittle crow]

ok so

scroll, go thru the door, taunt a jelly

[left perch]

I usually go get water or read discord

[brittle crow]

drag it to garrosh

it'll skip the rp then u just wait for respawn timer

[left perch]

tab back in 4 min later

[brittle crow]

jelly wont be there right away if u go quick but it spawns in a few sec, make sure you kill the first pack cuz it'll root you

walk thru door, kill pack, taunt jellies, walk 2 garrosh, rp skip

[brittle crow]

i am going insane ive optimized this route

[balmy shore]

friends

omg

it just SKIPS

this whole time i've been watching the whole rp...

[brittle crow]

ya it just skips

the entire thing

[balmy shore]

this is why i join skyhold

[eternal sundial]

Oh noes

[brittle crow]

hi phil

[eternal sundial]

I havent watched rp in aaaages

Haii

[balmy shore]

i watch the wholeeeee thing all the way through when thrall goes smack smack smack

[eternal sundial]

The smacking looks funny tbf

[brittle crow]

and when you do the rp skip thrall just stands there the whole fight lmaooo

[balmy shore]

thrall's got a lot going on

[brittle crow]

i know more about old content skips then i ever will about actually being good at current content

and thats ok