fury

[olive wraith]

Needs more defensive

[rigid stirrup]

I felt like horrible is such an overused term by the casual playerbase

[humble plover]

Oh yeah I feel like a brick wall idk what's he's talking about lmao

[rigid stirrup]

he's probably just a bad warrior

[olive wraith]

Warriors totally aren’t doing 29s or anything

Must be bad

[oblique trail]

make me able to somehow deal with afflicted in some god forsaken way and I'll be happy

👍

[olive wraith]

Intervene in

Please

[oblique trail]

and make us actually be good at 5t cleave and not be outdps'd by other specs that has higher softcaps

[rigid stirrup]

based

gatekeep affixes are actually the worst thing this expansion

[olive wraith]

Incorp honestly doesn’t feel awful this season

[oblique trail]

You can actually do something about Incorp

If not permanently, you can stop it

[warm crag]

@oblique trail

[olive wraith]

Don’t say that too loud

[oblique trail]

@warm crag

[olive wraith]

People gonna say warriors can’t interact with incorp

[oblique trail]

Sucks to be those people

[humble plover]

I just want ww cleave to hit more stuff, doesn't change our st DPS. Doesn't change what we do already. And just helps in big pulls that keys have

[quartz bough]

CAn someone Whispe me the best Burst rotation for single target?

[rigid stirrup]

just peep logs from the top fury

it'll tell you everything as far as CD timings

[quartz bough]

link pls bo

[oblique trail]

please tell me how to look up how to be better at the game instead of me putting in effort myself in any capacity!

[rigid stirrup]

just go to warcraft logs and sort bosses by class/spec

this is a give a fan a fish/teaching him how to scenerio

it'll be better for you in the long run if you learn how to navigate the site and logs

[past pivot]

/w https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[meager gyro]

This is warrior discord we don't whisper WE SHOUT

[grim ingot]

hey, which tier piece we dont play as fury?

[past pivot]

w/e you don't have. And keep in mind helm enchant scales with ilvl

[meager gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/sparta-kick-300-gif-24040778

[rigid stirrup]

[meager gyro]

This is skyhold, need to make that meme

[grim ingot]

not what i asked

[rigid stirrup]

okay go check the wowhead bis section of the fury warrior guide

[past pivot]

I answered.

[rigid stirrup]

I love the selective hearing people do

[oblique trail]

It doesn't matter which tier pieces you use, it's a 0.1%~ difference between 5 tier pieces and 4 tier pieces 1 off piece

[noble elm]

How can you be melee in a 24 key and have sub 5 interrupts. How do these people make it to the 3k range

I don’t understand

[rigid stirrup]

probabably lucked out during certain weeks

[pearl cradle]

hi guys noob question do you wait for odyns fury to line it up with recklessness and other cds?

[rigid stirrup]

no

[noble elm]

Out here fighting for our lives to get invites to 24-25 keys and we got fotm melee who are playing without keyboards and standing in front of the boss

[rigid stirrup]

literally whatever is on CD just pop it

new tier set makes it so you don't have to delay popping your stuff to line up

[pearl cradle]

@rigid stirrup oh so its only crucial in the opener and just send it when its not opener?

[rigid stirrup]

I get like 2-4 push keys max a week now

I recklessness into OF then after the temp avatar wares off I pop roar w avatar

min max the OF dot

[pearl cradle]

oh so you try to line up recklessnss and of ok thanks thanks

[noble elm]

I’ve just accepted if I wanna push past 23/24 while pugging I’ll have to tank - and that’s ok. I get why people generally don’t want to bring a dps war (especially this week)

[rigid stirrup]

only time I'd say you hold is if avatar/spear is going off CD but your OF is like 6 seconds or below off

[pearl cradle]

thank you

[rigid stirrup]

because you want that 4 piece CD reduction min max'd

[fossil hatch]

It was the same s1 and s2 with Invites still can make it to title With pugging Not enjoyable tho

[junior gale]

Pugging for IO is about the worst experience you can have playing wow at least on NA. Get some friends or guildies if u wanna go for stuff like title

[rigid stirrup]

Honestly this happened to me last season. you pretty much hit a wall pugging and the only way you'll really get further is pushing your own key

[quartz bough]

thx but still i cant See the Rotation how he started the boss

[noble elm]

I generally do but my schedule this season means I’m in the late night pst realm and there’s very little

[rigid stirrup]

you know you're down bad when the majority of your playtime outside of raid is signing up for keys

[noble elm]

I push my own key but it’s usually waiting 30-40 mins for a healer so it’s not an efficient use of time. It is what it is, I was just complaining about people who can’t interrupt lol

[rigid stirrup]

I honestly just went back to playing other games

lost ark is sick rn

[desert cape]

his answer is what you needed though. you play whatever sims higher - period.

[rigid stirrup]

and lethal company w friends has been great use of time

[junior gale]

Yeah I have a wack schedule outside of raid as well. That's why I've long since given up on title only do M+ for fun and vault now

Don't think I've done anything higher than a 25 all DF

[rigid stirrup]

I try but i just pop reck on CD. I reccomend just having a macro with both of them in it so you just spam that whenever either are up

[noble elm]

I played smf last night in keys

Got called troll many times lol

[junior gale]

How dare you do 5% less DMG in my key you troll.

[past pivot]

More like 8-10%

[junior gale]

Same difference.

[past pivot]

8-10% > 5%

[junior gale]

Still doesn't make or break an avg key

[noble elm]

Pretty sure I was still smashing like 80% of the people in the groups lol

My mog was fire so that adds a lot of dps

[loud locust]

hey on a scale of 1/10 how is fury doing in mythic plus and raid?

[eternal sundial]

6

[loud locust]

yeish

[summer imp]

Why do i see some warrs play mirror in mythic plus cd's dont allign aint it shitty?

[eternal sundial]

CDs allign

Every 2nd set of em

[rigid stirrup]

they probably dont have might of the ocean

[summer quail]

6 for raid, 5 for m+

[rigid stirrup]

anytime you see warriors not rocking might / augury in M+ assume its because they dont have anything better

[indigo quarry]

why play augury

its not even that good for AOE

[gilded pawn]

our class sucks

so augury is more damage

[indigo quarry]

stop playing a sub class

go to #arms

and be a chad

[noble elm]

I feel like you gotta change your name to be a better ambassador

[summer quail]

nah i think his name is optimistic, life support means not dead

[indigo quarry]

for m+ Arms is doing ok

i crush the keys hard

the problem is that we are kinda mid without the lego

[spice hemlock]

is legendary dmg split on aoe ?

[indigo quarry]

lego will just skyrocket my power

[summer quail]

the active yes

[indigo quarry]

and btw my name choice are always for the joke

because people just need to git gud first

[left perch]

Next week you loot, surely

[molten relic]

Ngl

I thought the rares was gonna be aids

Superbloom definitely worst part

18 leaves on first one with no buffs. Prob gonna be a Tuesday chore to just do superblooms all day

I done did that big ass Naga rare 5 times now

[indigo quarry]

you dare complain

about getting the lego

[molten relic]

No

[indigo quarry]

😄

[molten relic]

The gold cost is still the worst

[indigo quarry]

for superbloom you can group op

[molten relic]

Gotta use two wow tokens worth to get all the shit

[indigo quarry]

if you do it right

go boost some noobs in heroic

[edgy widget]

No shit lol

[indigo quarry]

get easygold

[molten relic]

The guy I gave my leaf to didn’t finish it in the one I did

[pliant lantern]

Just invite friends/guildies to the group, use the leaf on them and then have them use what they get after completing the quest back on you.. the buff stacks you can get 200% more dreamleaf and be done in like 3 Superblooms

[indigo quarry]

are you ready to not loot the lego til S4 ?

[molten relic]

Yeah I did a quick superbloom after our raid all the homies were offline

And the rando let me down

[pliant lantern]

You can always use it on yourself too for a guaranteed 50%

[molten relic]

Ngl I didn’t know I could use it on myself

Didn’t bother reading leggo guides just kinda going for it

[wanton mirage]

I wonder how many % of Evoker who did every kill till last week did not get the lego

[pliant lantern]

Evoker in my guild never got it

[indigo quarry]

i know 3 of them that didnt get it

[dense elbow]

None of my mates or guildies got it, so, I would say - far too many

[indigo quarry]

and lets face it we got the same stuff with just a shiny BLP token

[spring geyser]

Evoker in my guild got it 2 weeks before season ended so he never bothered making it

[pliant lantern]

Dont think there was BLP for Evoker leggo right from the start....it came later

[wanton mirage]

I think it worked retrospectively?

[indigo quarry]

yep it came late for them

i wouldnt trust blizzard with retrospectivity

its just bullshit PR

[timid forge]

i start my first trial tonight. any tips

[wanton mirage]

Trial?

[rigid stirrup]

dont die

press your buttons

dont be greedy

impending victory is also best friend

[dense elbow]

Do the mechanics, be a normal human, you will be fine.

[timid forge]

yea i was thinking just to pass on all loot out of principal

[pliant lantern]

Know the fights beforehand. Use defensives. Have all enchants/gems/consumables. Don't die and don't greed for dps

[rigid stirrup]

I mean guilds let oyu know these things ahead of itme

[wanton mirage]

Yeah just ask abt loot rule and u will be fine. Dont they use council?

[edgy widget]

Retroactively

[wanton mirage]

Thank u. Was looking for that word

[timid forge]

they use council ye

[edgy widget]

In retrospect?

[left perch]

[dense elbow]

If that is the case, just click the BiS/upgrade/mog buttons they got. It will be up to them to decide who gets what anyhow, and at worst you seem engaged and wanting to improve your character
(Friendly reminder, if RLCL bugs out, pass on all the loot. Then go into addons option for wow, turn RCLC off, then on again to activate it)

[indigo quarry]

i love using the word that people forgor

we all knew what he meant

i just cant bother

[covert blaze]

[edgy widget]

If you don’t teach people, they never learn!

[covert blaze]

I would roll normally and put notes with actual numbers of how much of an upgrade it is to show that you care

[junior gale]

Droptomizer is friend

[dense elbow]

Just avoid being the "everything is my BiS!" guy.

[covert blaze]

Rolling on trinkets for tertiaries

[dense elbow]

Fyrakk tank trinky is my BiS, also AuG, give me both. Tyvm. Signet? Yes, that too. Yoink!

[clever path]

you guys run bloodcraze or slaughtering striks in M+?

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[clever belfry]

balls

[dapper goblet]

[warm crag]

balls 3d

[edgy widget]

I run Bloodcraze; Slaughtering is slightly better for sustained cleave, but not by enough for me to really care

[wet notch]

If I get a rampage proc and im already enraged do i still cast rampage or let the enrage tick down to 1 to maximize?

[bitter basalt]

hello fury warriors does wowanalyzer work for this spec

[edgy widget]

I don't want to say no, because I haven't looked at it in quite a long time, but historically it has not be very well maintained, so it may not be super accurate

[bitter basalt]

NOOOOOO ok

ty archi ❤️

[edgy widget]

It's mostly just a matter of nobody taking an interest to keep it maintained, though they may have found someone since the last time I looked 🤷‍♂️

[edgy widget]

yes and no - theoretically you do want to game out the enrage buff, but uptime is naturally so high now that you don't actually need to anymore

in T31, you want to prioritize Rampage as long as you've already used the Reckless Abandon buff (cast Bloodbath)

[bitter basalt]

yeah LOL, i think most specs have weird or inaccurate WoWAs, my main spec just has a very dedicated little cult so i always hope my alt spec has the same LOL

[clever path]

archi do you eveer use the empowered T31 on BT or do you just sit there to get enought rage for a ramp to empower BB

[edgy widget]

They asked me to years ago, but I got enough shit on my plate as is 🤣

[edgy widget]

@bitter basalt you wanna take this one? 😛

[bitter basalt]

LMAO

[clever path]

is it in pins

[bitter basalt]

a wise warrior told me in twitter DMs that you only spend it on BB

[wet notch]

Okay im sure ill see more uptime once i get 4set. Thank you so much!

[clever path]

its it just feels bad to have slam WW on CD just waiting for autos to give enough rage lol

[bitter basalt]

i'm a noob warrior i've just been spamming archi's DMs for advice

[clever path]

BB it is

[edgy widget]

Yeah, as stated, you want to spend the buff on Bloodbath, which can sometimes cause you to "twist" the rotation a bit, delaying until you have enough rage to Rampage again

[vale elk]

A bit of a different question, anyone playing fury on a mmo mouse?

[edgy widget]

very rarely something odd will happen where I'll be stuck with Slam and Whirlwind on cooldown, and so little rage that I can't depend on autos alone to get to Rampage (like <50 rage), in which case I'll just throw the BT to avoid stalling my rotation entirely, but that is very rare

More often, it'll look something like this during the off-cycle when you just have OF but not Reck
Rampage -> OF -> Bloodbath -> Rampage -> Bloodbath -> Slam -> Whirwlind -> Rampage -> Bloodbath

[edgy widget]

yeah a lot of us

[vale elk]

Probably not used to the apm on a mouse, but my thumb gets destroyed

[modest condor]

dont use the mouse for your rotation

[bitter basalt]

my main rotationals go on keyboard, but CDs and utilities i often put on mouse

[modest condor]

^

[vale elk]

On the laptop I prefer mouse only, unlike on the mech on the desktop, but probably wont continue doing it mouse only like that

[edgy widget]

this - put stuff you need to hit quickly on the mouse, and keep the main rotation on the keyboard @vale elk - your thumb isn't designed to be used that much, so its gonna hurt after awhile if you try to rely solely on it

a simple way to approach it may be like "on-GCD = keyboard, off-GCD = mouse"

so for example, I have Heroic Leap, Reck/Avatar, Pummel, Potion, warlock gateway, and Defensive Stance all on my mouse buttons - all stuff that I want to press while I'm mid-rotation, but don't actually have to push all that often

I also keep my push-to-talk and auto-run keys there (which is a huge QoL improvement)

[north edge]

I have a repeat press on hold button on my mouse

I have a repeat press on hold button on my mouse

[lucid owl]

does anyone have the string to put in sims that tests your character with all weapon runes?

[north edge]

Might be against TOS but haven’t been banned yet

[edgy widget]

it is, but they don't ban for it unless you find some really abusive way to use it

[north edge]

I use it with the rampage BT macro

And between globals press ww slam or manually BT

[edgy widget]

blizz actually has a built-in hold-to-cast setting now too

[north edge]

Seems clunky though

[edgy widget]

🤷‍♂️

[north edge]

You can’t macro that one afaik

[edgy widget]

well the point of it is to remove the need for some macros, but correct, you cannot

[lucid owl]

is there a good weakaura for tracking t31 empower? i dont think ive ever really thought about it

[edgy widget]

you shouldn't really need one, but you can make one easily enough just by tracking the buff stacks

[lucid owl]

ok i havent actively gone out of my way to think about it. i just sorta go with flow of rotation

[clever path]

Do you guys macro slam to anything

I hate pressing it

[edgy widget]

it can be convenient at times, such as the previous conversation about delaying BT in order to spend your last charge on BB

I would recommend something very simple; I coopted the T30 WA to just show the buff instead of crit stacks

[edgy widget]

its on GCD, so you can't macro it to much, but there's a macro in towards the bottom of the pins that you might enjoy

[unreal onyx]

good macro, can recommend

[clever path]

ROFL I love it

[weak tartan]

yo guys whats the name of the strongest healing potion that give you big burst healing but a debuff damage taken after

[unreal onyx]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=207039/potion-of-withering-dreams

this one?

[weak tartan]

nah its dark

shadow themed

a friend of mine told me about it yesterday and linked its name but I didnt buy it at that time

he is not online currently so im here with yall

[unreal onyx]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=207021/dreamwalkers-healing-potion

this one then?

but the withering dreams one is literally what you described

[weak tartan]

actually its this one ye

thanks

[summer knoll]

I actually use my side mouse button for things like raging blow in s2, bloodthirst in s3, crusader strike on paladin and i'm fine

but i'm playing that way for years

[edgy widget]

human beings are extremely adaptable and can get used to just about anything, that still doesn't mean they're necessarily good ideas

[summer knoll]

though my middle finger on left hand is actually gets tired pressing rampage during long encounters

[wet notch]

Can you share your wa :D?

[dapper goblet]

I dont wanna sound dramatic but...this might be the hardest fury has ever been..

[clever path]

wdym

like, how ? im litterrally using a /cast BB /cast Rampage maccro and all i do is pressing one keybind when reck is up

[modest condor]

damn so dramatic

[summer knoll]

I'm not using an mmo mouse btw, my mouse has just two side buttons so my thumb isn't busy jumping between different buttons

[edgy widget]

unironically, it actually is more complicated than previous versions, in the sense that there are more cooldowns to track and buttons to weave in

[gilded pawn]

if we werent so flooded with rage

this playstyle may actually be intersting

[dapper goblet]

more interesting than arms

first time in a while where i'm falling asleep playing arms

[covert blaze]

that's a very low bar

[dapper goblet]

once in a blue moon fury has the upper hand

[spiral oasis]

3 times in a row, someone else picks up my seed and refuses to drop it

[gilded pawn]

fury hasnt been interesting since 9.1

9.2 deleted the need to press BT

until 10.1 tier

[buoyant salmon]

did u giys see the warrior reddit post

[oblique trail]

yeah apparently we have no defensives

[buoyant salmon]

i want to comment but im too late to efficiently farm downvotes

[lucid owl]

why does the leggo sim so much higher on ret then fury?

[oblique trail]

fury could use some more tankiness

[buoyant salmon]

“only one defensive” is just ACTUALLY lying

[final birch]

Link

[fallen adder]

reddit warrior opinions are too powerful for you choco

[buoyant salmon]

you can argue for spell reflect being the best. ability in the game

[oblique trail]

I don't play Ret or looked at them, but for Fury there aren't a lot of good times to use the Lego

[fallen adder]

war paint should be a 30% dr

[oblique trail]

So the actual on-use part of the Lego wont actually give us a lot of damage

Simwise anyway

[buoyant salmon]

i got downvoted for saying dh needs externams in turbo high keys and then an hour later saw a dh get oneshot in a 30 fort brb

brh

[oblique trail]

Fury simply just want to always press buttons

[buoyant salmon]

“link rio”

[final birch]

Link 😠

[dapper goblet]

@buoyant salmon can you share your reasoning on why spriest was brought to keys last season

[buoyant salmon]

i closed it

not again

[final birch]

Is that the one

[buoyant salmon]

its a good day i refuse to get mad

yes

[fallen adder]

Choco what are your opinions on lusting for the healer in freehold

[buoyant salmon]

[olive wraith]

Hard cc none

[buoyant salmon]

hard cc and soft cc have different meanings

its weird

some ppl say hard cc is stuns etc some ppl say hard cc is polymorph hex rtc

etc

[edgy widget]

yeah that thread is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read

from a bunch of people who clearly don't play, or really know shit at all about, Warrior

[olive wraith]

When I was playing league hard cc made you unable to move or take action

[fallen adder]

fury should get an ignore pain every time we rampage

[olive wraith]

Soft cd reduced your mobility

[fallen adder]

I simply cannot live in keys without that

[olive wraith]

Real?

[fallen adder]

real as can be

[buoyant salmon]

amen brother

[sudden tusk]

hopefully its taken seriously and we get buffed

well we do need some buffs

[modest condor]

yo i remember seeing that post and looking into logs because of it

[sudden tusk]

but when reddit gets involved cant wait for the forums to whine too

[buoyant salmon]

i think warriors utility is completely fine, they just need to do damage

some class is going to have thr worst utility set

[covert blaze]

i have never heard hard cc being poly hex or whatever

[dapper goblet]

only thing worse than that reddit post is @young swan writing 17 paragraphs for 20% slam buff

[covert blaze]

in any other game a hard cc is a stun in my experience

[civic fjord]

arms cannot spec into shockwave without losing a TONNE of dps, its fine for fury though

[modest condor]

they can

[buoyant salmon]

ive heard it recently

[olive wraith]

Arms does this season

Well some do

[buoyant salmon]

just differing definitions

[civic fjord]

no it does not spec into it

[modest condor]

i just refer to hex etc. as out of combat cc

[covert blaze]

it's like that in any moba ive ever played

[civic fjord]

if you do, your better off bringing another dps

[modest condor]

you're already better off bringing another dps

and arms can very much spec into shockwave

[buoyant salmon]

you’re better kff bringing another dps bc warrior doesnt do good damage

[civic fjord]

thats true aswell lol

[modest condor]

speaking of reddit

[buoyant salmon]

i think shockwave should be less, if not no damage loss but jts not like kts griefing to take it

typing is hard

[modest condor]

i got told that "it's not easily quantifyable" when i said that fury and arms both get stomped on in m+ by the meta specs

like huh

literally watch a stream

[civic fjord]

when you prioritize mobs under 35% to cleave off with sweeping strikes to do great execute damage which is spamming, 2% crit and 10%crit damage and crit on execute adds up quickly, fury doesnt spam execute so its not so much a worry

spell reflect for group and we good 🙂

[buoyant salmon]

this is wildly op

[modest condor]

in the top log for arms, execute was 11% of his damage

[buoyant salmon]

i assume youre memeing but just have to say it

[modest condor]

even if we assume every single cast was a crit, that's a 1.1% increase in dps

[final birch]

Execute stomps

No 🧢

[modest condor]

really not that big of a loss

also considering they get 5% max hp from it

[buoyant salmon]

fact checkem silm

[final birch]

Ye defo if u want shockwave take it

[final birch]

I can just check my logs

Na im washed up didnt key properly this season, any serious key I had failed

Outside of rise where I played like 💩

[buoyant salmon]

its been like 7 weeks

[modest condor]

like yeah sure arms loses more than fury, but it's still not a TONNE

[buoyant salmon]

you can still play lol

[civic fjord]

the point is, its more punishing for arms to get than fury

[final birch]

Ye I will

[civic fjord]

numbers aside

[modest condor]

it's 3% instead of 2%

[final birch]

Cba this season for actual pushing

Just gonna game some keys

[modest condor]

waiting for talent tree rework

[tulip swallow]

Talent tree rework will exist only in my dreams

[balmy shore]

simply playing aug if pushing

[civic fjord]

those numbers are defnitely not accurate but who cares, you play whatever u want

[final birch]

Speaking of augs holy fuck theyre probably even more trash this season

[buoyant salmon]

people still think aug is good for damage

[dapper goblet]

dont need to spec shockwave when you will be getting aoe stormbolt in the new expansion

[civic fjord]

trueeee

[tulip swallow]

Community perception on aug is going to be really hard to shift

[modest condor]

[buoyant salmon]

aug still makes u live

they just dont do damage

[tulip swallow]

if it doesn't show up on the damage meters people don't know what to think

[balmy shore]

batchest

[modest condor]

you're right, it's 1.6% not 2%, my bad http://puu.sh/JXODo/56983703b1.png

[final birch]

They are probably behind in damage but not as much as logs make it show, just fix that shit blizz

[edgy widget]

3 random target

[edgy widget]

it's really not lol

[final birch]

For every target hit your storm bolt cd increases by 30 sec

😎

[tulip swallow]

yeah I think aoe stormbolt is mostly going to be a pvp thing

[dapper goblet]

mountainstinker spec sounds the least appealing anyway

[edgy widget]

maybe not even, since the DR issues will be even worse

I think it's just kind of a terrible talent tbh

cool concept, but bad in general

[tulip swallow]

stormbolt should be part of the mountain thane fantasy, it's just hard to work in when it's primarily a utility button

[civic fjord]

Arms spams execute so using that ability has a tiny bit more value that's all, not a game breaking loss just slightly enough that is notice lol

Also depends on group comp

[edgy widget]

it really isn't

Arms doesn't really spam Execute anymore either

[civic fjord]

Depends on what build U play?

[edgy widget]

even if you play Juggernaut in M+, you're not "spamming" Execute, nor is the talent a particularly large optimization

[civic fjord]

Execute execute overpower mortal strike. Sometimes 3x exeutes

[edgy widget]

as shown, it's <2% - people keep trying to make this argument that Shockwave is some big loss, because they want to justify not taking Shockwave

[tulip swallow]

the 1% crit is probably a significant amount of the value

[civic fjord]

Yeh only slightly

[tulip swallow]

which isn't really enough to get upset about dropping

[edgy widget]

Unless you simply refuse to use it, Shockwave is far better

[civic fjord]

Depends on group como

[final birch]

Its ok not to take shockwave but when I saw how much it actually differe numbers wise then it’s really not that big of a loss

2% is piss

[buoyant salmon]

it sucks in theory to lose damage for shockwave but its so insigificant that it doesnt really matter

[edgy widget]

I mean, obviously if you feel like your group doesn't need it to the point where you're not going to use it, don't talent it

[tulip swallow]

unless you're running with a prot warrior I don't think stun DR is going to be a huge concern

[final birch]

So argument that you lose fuckton of dps is irrelevant

[edgy widget]

but trying to justify not talenting it because of the "DPS loss" is laughably naïve

[oblique trail]

I will simply not talent it because it's an extra keybind on my very bloated action bars

[edgy widget]

stun DR is virtually never a concern in M+

[final birch]

Think uproar + CS into shockwave simmed 2.8% dps loss in 10 target scenario for me in s2? Thats not that much really

[sage depot]

2% damage wont make or break a key, not aoe stunning a pack could

[edgy widget]

more of a PvP thing

[buoyant salmon]

only on those shield guys in ad

[final birch]

You have WAY bigger margin of error with your dps in m+

[tulip swallow]

it's really only if there's a rotational dps increase stun, which means blizzard probably screwed up somewhere

[edgy widget]

even then, not particularly cause the stun is being used as a pseudo-interrupt, so the DR doesn't really matter

unless you're like... overlapping stuns for some reason (miscoordination)

[final birch]

Ye wanted to say that

It happens in pugs

[tulip swallow]

those shield guys are my mortal enemy

I still get tilted thinking about them being fear immune

[buoyant salmon]

yeah just when overlaps happen

[final birch]

Havent done high ad since like week 2 or something but I remember it being pretty consistent issue in 20-22

[buoyant salmon]

if you do it right its fine but ppl dont do it right unless you verbalize it

[left perch]

wait did someone mention stun dr unironically for pve

[final birch]

Its a thing

[left perch]

no

dr is half life every 30 seconds

[final birch]

Not if you dont use stuns

[left perch]

at most you stun 4 times then can’t for remainder

[buoyant salmon]

ive had it happen like twice

[tulip swallow]

You can absolutely run into it, especially as protw with shield charge stun

you need multiple aoe stuns in the group though

[left perch]

so shield slam, leg sweep, shadow fury

whatever our aoe stun is I can’t recall

[final birch]

Shockwave

[left perch]

like yea you cant infinity lock mobs down

but

[lilac lynx]

any weakaura for the lego?

[left perch]

not taking shockwave because stun dr? Lmao

[final birch]

Oh

[tulip swallow]

rogue's absolutely love to bitch about stun DR

[final birch]

No definitely not wtf thats a cooked ass argument

[tulip swallow]

they hate it when you press your buttons

[final birch]

Not taking a stun because of dr is dumbest shit

[tulip swallow]

you take it, you just have to be conscious about when you press it

[left perch]

maybe I’m misunderstand why it was brought up above but that’s what it sounded like

[steady wharf]

Does anyone have or use a swing timer for fury in DF? Thinking about scenarios where you're just short the rage for a rampage and assessing whether its better to wait a moment for the swing to complete or spend a gcd on a filler

[modest condor]

you would never wait for rampage

[olive wraith]

If you don’t have enough rage for rampage you won’t overcap by throwing in a rage gen gcd

[covert blaze]

Filler won't overcap you

[steady wharf]

not really concerned rage capping but wasting a gcd. A scenario I sometimes run into is being on the gcd while below 80 rage and no bloodbath available. In this scenario I go to cast bloodthirst or slam to be able to cast rampage next cast to get bloodbath, but when the gcd comes up, the weapon swing has finished and I now have enough rage for rampage, but because I am slow, I already spent the gcd on a filler. i.e. less optimal cast. If that makes sense

[olive wraith]

Youre not wasting a gcd

[steady wharf]

How is casting slam when I could of instead casted rampage not a wasted gcd? that puts me one gcd behind the next bloodbath.

[wanton mirage]

bloodthirst will comeback agian after casting rampage

[covert blaze]

It's not like the rage from the filler disappears or anything

[gilded pawn]

also those are absolutely miniscule optimizations

[frosty sparrow]

Just got Augur... Stick with roar or go elysian might and pray to the gods it procs ?? lol TY

[oblique trail]

Augury doesn't affect your talent choice. Use Roar in M+/Any AoE raid fight, and Spear on ST fights

[covert blaze]

Banezi's 15th pfp this week

[olive wraith]

This season we have to be semi careful about our cd usage. Sending off a slam or a ww before rampage means you put those on cd

[full viper]

Hey guys how do you set a key to repeat ? So instead of pressing it many times I just can press and hold it down ?

[olive wraith]

There’s an option to hold down a key for casting

In the setting somewhere

Sorry Idr which tab

[full viper]

Is it an addon function in bartender ?

[neon pulsar]

can i get a tldr if it matters which weapon i have in my main hand/off hand?

[full viper]

Or default ?

[oblique trail]

Highest ilvl in main hand

apart from that doesn't matter

[olive wraith]

It’s in default settings

[full viper]

Thanks !

[spiral oasis]

next week for sure

[balmy shore]

for sure

[dense elbow]

Next year for sure

[fast crest]

huge !

pugged gnarlroot and got the weapon

[dense elbow]

Gz

[sinful spoke]

jumpscare

[dense elbow]

PF with borers was fun

[covert blaze]

[spiral oasis]

i'm just gonna gear my warlock now man

[olive wraith]

Demo is pretty fun

[gaunt moat]

thank you for validating my choice of not playing this season

[balmy shore]

my first season i struggled in a +6 pf

[spiral oasis]

I'm an afflocker

[meager gyro]

Just play mage, only spec other than havoc that will see keys above 30

[timid forge]

welp night 1 of my trial is over. 4 bosses down !!!

[clever path]

I wish someone had a WA that would show how many more embers are needed

I’ve looted so many lol

[oblique trail]

There is no such WA

Because no one can make such a WA

[clever path]

I’m convinced each greater ember is like 1.5% extra chance

[oblique trail]

There is no X amount of Embers to get the lego

I can also convince myself that each greater is 10% chance and I've just been exceedingly unlucky

[clever path]

Damn lol how many lessers have you gotten?

[oblique trail]

Idk an amount

It's insane to keep track of it

[clever path]

I do h fyrakk weekly as well as run through normal and lfr

[oblique trail]

Wont change when I get it knowing how many I've used

[clever path]

True

[fast crest]

should it matter which weapon is in your mainhand vs offhand if they're same ilvl

[oblique trail]

No

[fickle bluff]

no

[fast crest]

sometimes sim tells me theres like a 0.1% difference swapping

[oblique trail]

That's variance

[fast crest]

but suppose thats just margin of error

[oblique trail]

Basically means there is no tangible difference

[clever path]

Do they have the same enchant

[fast crest]

yeah same enchant

[oblique trail]

Enchants don't care either

You can have enchants in either hand and it wont make a difference

[fast crest]

i think there is a difference in proc rate for offhand vs mainhand though ?

[modest condor]

no

[fast crest]

or maybe it's just sophic and wafting having different rates

[modest condor]

also no

[clever path]

I was wondering the same earlier but figured it probably didn’t matter since not in the faq

[fast crest]

i guess just anecdotal experience/variance on my part then lol

[clever path]

Yeah I thought i was just high (I was indeed high, thinking about it)

[full viper]

Hey guys since we will always press blood thirst after rampaging. Can we do a cast sequence button?

[oblique trail]

Sure

If you really want to

[full viper]

Rampage into Bloodbath

Just makes sense right ? Unless there’s a reason not to bloodbath after rampage.

[oblique trail]

Generally on ST you can do this, but in AoE you might have to use WW between Ramp and BB because you run out of charges

I'd never recommend dumbing down the already quite simple rotation to an even simpler version

[pliant ridge]

/cast bloodbath

/cast rampage

one macro

[clever path]

I think it just adds an extra button because you’ll need bloodthirst as well as the sequence macro

[pliant ridge]

bloodbath won't exist without the buff, so it doesn't lock the macro

[clever path]

So I’ve always wanted to know, what’s a pile on Banezi

[oblique trail]

It's the best set bonus to ever exist ever for Warrior

You had to be there to experience it

@red yew

[clever path]

shadowlands privat eserver

play on one

[final birch]

Apparently there’s some command? Idk if the guy was trolling

I’d have to really dig for it

To check lesser embers

Havent been on the game for a week so didnt have time to try

[oblique trail]

Sure

But this doesn't show how many you need

[final birch]

Oh, need

[oblique trail]

It just shows how many you used

[final birch]

Ye 6am brain

[red yew]

Truthful and real.

[clever path]

imagine they add it back as a talent

[oblique trail]

Can't wait for Slayer talent reveal where Pile On is the capstone

[clever path]

they are cooking something atm

for arms

Are you guys trolling

Oh it’s real

For arms warrior

2-Set - Pile On - Every 75 Rage consumed increases the effectiveness of your next Colossus Smash or Warbreaker by 2%, up to 10%.
4-Set - Pile On - Increases the duration of your Colossus Smash and Warbreaker by 3 sec.

[oblique trail]

This is the dookie version of it

[clever path]

what the fuck is this

[oblique trail]

Not the real one

[clever path]

Ah was the only one I could find

https://www.wowhead.com/news/warrior-9-2-tier-set-bonuses-guide-writer-first-impressions-325071

[oblique trail]

https://www.wowhead.com/item-set=1506/armaments-of-the-infinite-infantry

Simply the best tier set to ever have been conjured in the pits of Blizzards development circle

[clever path]

prot one

was so good

i loved prot

so much in s4

with banner

and guess what

they made it into a talent

the 2p

they should try doing the same for arms

but make it 4p

[lapis lion]

hard disagree on that one. rb spam is kinda miserable and prob the worst iteration of fury since bc

[clever path]

venthyr fury was goated

same with necro

nf/kyrian was annoying as fuck

[dense elbow]

I was a NF enjoyer

[lapis lion]

i feel like im going to end up in a breath/oblit debate here but i wish the current tier set and playstyle was permanent and rb spam was relegated to the 5% dps loss "you can play this if you really want" category

ive mained warrior for 17 of my 19 years and rarely have had this much fun

[clever path]

Do you guys play fury more because you like it, or just play whatever is better between arms and fury

I personally like both

[oblique trail]

I play whichever is the most optimal, but like both specs

Although neither are in a particular great spot in my opinion

[dense elbow]

I play fury,because OF

[young swan]

prefer fury but will play arms if its better by a significant amount

[muted star]

2 sword better than 1 sword

[lapis lion]

prob couldnt play arms unless there was a 10% gap

[clever path]

other way around for me

[lapis lion]

such a boring spec compared to fury for me, and always has been

[meager gyro]

did you know if you play SMF, your rage is so nice you only ever press Ramp,OF, BB/BT, & WW. I never hit slam, not once.

[lapis lion]

yeah but then you have to play smf

[clever path]

idk i cant play fury for long

gets so boring

over time

[lapis lion]

and who wants to use little sword

[meager gyro]

I'm used to a little sword

[lapis lion]

why smf isnt just a cosmetic option atp is beyond me

balancing them is a joke and its clear the majority of the player base doesnt prefer smf

[clever path]

Didn’t they say you could do that in the future

[lapis lion]

not that I know of

[celest hedge]

whats SMF?

[oblique trail]

Single minded fury

2x1handers

[celest hedge]

ah

[clever path]

idk why would u run 2 1hs as fury

2 2hs goes hard asf

[wanton mirage]

Yeah it's the identity of fury war already. Will play outlaw if I want to use 2 1Hs.

[meager gyro]

I like to choke myself, so I play SMF

I also play outlaw

I don't like how often I shoot a gun though 🔫

[clever path]

lore accurate

gun spam

https://tenor.com/view/boat-gif-11806436311675965258

[meager gyro]

I wanna be a plate pirate, gimme dat. most my xmogs are pirate hats but plate

[wet notch]

Could you share your weakauras by chance :)?

[nova garnet]

Hello weebs

[covert blaze]

I'm not Archi but i use the same thing basically https://wago.io/cMLx9wVPH

[covert blaze]

[nova garnet]

[humble plover]

cookin so far this week boys

[covert blaze]

[wet notch]

ty

[steady wharf]

RE: above thought. I made a shitty weak aura that will highlight rampage if its not currently usable, but can be cast within 0.2s based on the mh or oh wep swing timer and rage generation. The potato logic being that its better to wait 0.2s and cast rampage than use a filler that will potentially leave you with dead time later in the rotation. Going to play with the timing later to see if its even useful.
https://wago.io/V1eGjWXoF

[covert blaze]

how does a filler give you dead time

you will have more rage after the rampage than if you wait

[steady wharf]

yes, but using slam when I could have used rampage puts it on cd, and that is one less spell available to cast if I find myself unable to rampage when bloodthirst is on cd

wheres if I had played properly I wouldn't have dead time

[silk wharf]

rampage isnt all your rage though, as long as you dont cap rage youll be closer to the next rampage while also having less cd on slam.

[covert blaze]

if you have dead time at all you probably have bigger problems

[north edge]

anyone know if frostfire legs are good for M+

thinking about removing the shadowflame one from cloak and crafting legs instead

[covert blaze]

he's been told multiple times that waiting is bad

wcyd

[silk wharf]

off topic. Im so glad i didnt slam vers bracers, they still arent an upgrade at 483

Not sure when that will change. perhaps when i lose some random vers on gear.

[covert blaze]

well vers bracers are for aoe mostly

if you are simming st it's very likely they are worse

[young swan]

think this wouldve been more useful last season when pressing rampage was like the most important thing in our rotation

in fact someone in here made a weakaura for that express purpose but it was still largely a niche situation

[summer quail]

why isn't the stupid tethercoil appliable in combat

[rain talon]

We did it bois

[fiery harbor]

[still swift]

perish in flames

[inland flame]

dont worry guys im definitely getting it next reset

[oblique trail]

you certainly perished in flames on tindral

[still swift]

utterly uncalled for

[lavish grove]

Me too

6 plate wearers in the raid, none got leggo yet

[ocean cape]

what mobs are shattering throw useful on this season?

[half wing]

next year guys, ull have it))

[oblique trail]

Incorporeal

[ocean cape]

ya.. what mobs

vs https://www.wowhead.com/spell=275338/menace

[oblique trail]

yeah

Incorporeal

nothing else

[ocean cape]

lmaooo

fair

[oblique trail]

Wrecking throw though is pretty decent against Iridikron in Galakronds Fall, or Fyrakk/Tindral

[dusty aspen]

I'm more jealous you got a rezan trinket

[fading sky]

Me every wednesday

[hoary locust]

Guys, two 486 rings with shadowflame and 489 cloak and 489 bracers still loose to 486 cloak with sf and a
486 alied bracers?

Given rings 489

[teal sable]

How do you guys use the Legendary in M+ when OF Ava buff drops off before Ava or after full Ava buff

[tender seal]

How did you manage to put shadowflame on rings ?

[tall surge]

You can't put shafowflame on rings

[timber swan]

How come this sim so high currently i have might/serpent

[hoary locust]

Oh shit

[fickle bluff]

youre simming aoe and serpent is ST

[oblique trail]

Ember is just a good stat stick

[timber swan]

yeah i know serpent isnt the best but like im losing dps if i would have hc augury aswell

if i have ember/might on

[clever path]

yeah and now sim st

augury shits on it

[timber swan]

yeah, but i dont wanna know whats best for st

trying to find good m+ setup

[oblique trail]

Use Might + Augury

[clever path]

the difference between 548k and 552k is nothing

you wont notice it on aoe

but u will notice augury vs ember on st

[oblique trail]

Simming AoE, especially when it comes to trinkets, is very finicky

[clever path]

and m+ has a lot of both

[oblique trail]

If you have Might + Augury, you basically got the most consistent M+ setup

Signet Brand has potential instead of Augury for more ST on higher Tyrannical weeks if you're 100% certain you'll be able to keep up the stacks, i.e if the dungeon suits it and you're playing with a tank you know

However I'd just run Might + augury if you have the option just to not worry about it ever

[timber swan]

okey, thnx will try to get augury then 🙂

[fleet sorrel]

[still swift]

banezi talking about augury as if he had any idea what it is

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/508309373643128837.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[kindred notch]

night elf warrior or human?

[still swift]

nelf

[kindred notch]

its beauti?

[still swift]

they have big ears and look cute

[kindred notch]

ya

[still swift]

and u can do

the flip

human cant do that = worse

[kindred notch]

ya

[still swift]

glad we talked about it

[kindred notch]

❤️ ya bro

[oblique trail]

Perish immediately

[dire badge]

vulpera flip >

[indigo quarry]

Vulpera were a mistake

[clever belfry]

L not having augury

[oblique trail]

Real

at least I have brand now

1/3rd of the exodia

[clever belfry]

i dont have might

cause i cba going there

489 crab is too king anyway

[oblique trail]

Lol mightless

[clever belfry]

lol auguryless

[oblique trail]

lol

augplayer

[clever belfry]

AUGury

[oblique trail]

[daring zephyr]

Augury is far too close to augvoker hence why I refuse to use it. Dirty dragons crowd our tier token

It’s definitely not that I just haven’t gotten it to drop for me yet….

[summer quail]

real

[wispy laurel]

Hello boys, 1 question pleas :)). I have been wondering, when is perfect time for cast Fyr'Alath

[pliant lantern]

When its not going to get you killed

[clever path]

and outside cds

[wispy laurel]

At when all is dry then should i use fyr alath

With enrage*

[summer quail]

enrage doesn't matter for the leggo

[pliant lantern]

First post in pins goes over when to use it

TLDR...it really doesn't matter

[summer quail]

imagine if enrage increased leggo damage, would be insane

[pliant lantern]

Just press it outside of cooldowns and when it isn't going to kill you

[wispy laurel]

Ok thanks

[teal sable]

Fuck 5T Cap

[fleet sorrel]

[fickle bluff]

vil ressurrected just to die again

[devout totem]

remember when they increase whirlwind cleave to 55%

[teal sable]

Getting out DPS'ed by DK and Ret in EB 27 because they do 30M more than me on Dreadpetals which come in packs of at least 15

[fleet sorrel]

class bad

[clever belfry]

game bad

tbh

[errant vessel]

Would increasing WW cleave to 60% be too big a buff for us

[wild mural]

gladly

[fleet sorrel]

60% ww cleave wouldn’t do anything

[honest sundial]

just cap ww cleave to like 8 targets

[misty helm]

is the crest from Dream warden renown 1 per account?

[clever belfry]

uncap it

real true

based

even uncapped with split dmg would be kinda neat cause of cshb real and true

[eternal sundial]

100% cleave

[clever belfry]

as it should be

[errant vessel]

It’s a ~6% increase to our sustained AOE

But true we should get way more

Also BL for warriors

“War Cry”

[tender seal]

and CR

[fleet sorrel]

warrior just has way too many problems that won’t be fixed this xpac and we would be lucky to get a quarter of them fixed next xpac

There’s a reason it’s been meta 1 out of like 15 seasons of keys

[errant vessel]

Wdym Mountain Thane tree will fix everything

Fury warrior should unironically get a pseudo cheat death like the Hidden Artifact one

8 seconds to kill a mob or you die

[hollow elk]

dreaming is nice

[final birch]

What season was it

[fleet sorrel]

legion season 3

[clever belfry]

EN was a real season

bro dont forgor bfa s3... fury was meta trust me...

i didnt just make it work cause i diffed people..

[chrome oasis]

Helloo new fury here

[oblique trail]

Hello new fury

[wild mural]

hello new fury

[clever path]

hello new fury

[wild mural]

how do i get the worst fucking groups

known to humankind

[worn rain]

looks like average pug to me

[clever path]

this is like

s1 overall

aa

[wild mural]

475 warlock and mage, monk missed nearly every single afflicted

[worn rain]

what dungeon?

[wild mural]

and we BL'd the wrong boss

WM 22

[worn rain]

ye

totally average pug

[wild mural]

I hate this game

I wanna get 3k but my groups basically stopped playing to play dayz

[worn rain]

oooh boy

welcome

[covert blaze]

3k is easy to pug

[worn rain]

and enjoy your personal warrior hell

[wild mural]

every pug I get it like that

[covert blaze]

Make your group

Sit on LFG for hours

[clever path]

3k is like

all 23s

or something

idk 23s are the worst keys to pug

cause

they are full of people

who are dogshit

but high ego

last season i was doing some 23s to reroll my key

man it was awful

25s/26s are better

although this was pre aug

pre aug 25 is like a 27 aug i guess

[final birch]

25 last season was 22 in s1

Which was also high ego low skill very often

[clever path]

i mean people are gonna ego in all key ranges

[final birch]

3k is like 4 23’s and 4 22’s both weeks

[hollow elk]

what level of key is 3k? i keep getting dragged into 23s and so on since this week for w.e reason

[final birch]

Ye but the higher the less

[hollow elk]

well that answers that

[clever path]

meh

depends

[final birch]

In high keys people generally just join play and leave

Sometimes insult

Lemme search up a screen of a guy insulting hpal hard

[subtle lagoon]

It begins

[final birch]

[clever path]

thats not even bad

[wild mural]

me

[bitter basalt]

i have a question

[final birch]

U mean whats that 1?

My Ui was super dogshit in s2

[chrome oasis]

quick question, do I always use avatar and recklessness together?

[fickle bluff]

kind of

[viscid arrow]

the wowhead guide says that Gholak, the Final Conflagration is an alternative offhand for fury... is that really correct?

[cunning moth]

with hatemail included after i told him to go try out his rotation on dummies xd

[unreal onyx]

man I almost also got the R1 smolderon hc heal log

already have R1 myth

but my heroic is only R3

[dense elbow]

Washed up

[ornate gust]

+22 EB. Insane tank

[sand crest]

Yo guys, can anyone tell me if the mark of mastery omnitoken is at 2k rio or 2.5k

[unreal onyx]

KSM

so 2k I think

or aotc

[sand crest]

ty

[summer quail]

close

[eternal sundial]

then the aids shit starts

[narrow narwhal]

I tried the die early method to get Lego, didn't work unfortunately

[slender perch]

Love how so many have it, yet I am all without legendary. GR8 game

[summer quail]

not that many people have it

% wise

[slender perch]

Feels like it though.

😂

[left perch]

it’s just confirmation bias

once you see them you see them everywhere

you’ll be at Target and go “oh shit that guy has one too”

[eternal sundial]

well ppl who dont have it wont post quest progress

[summer quail]

you're thinking of it so you notice people having it

[tardy lark]

Also known as negative bias, which is probably an evolutionary leftover, as that leaves negative experiences at the front of our minds for next time

[acoustic furnace]

Dps meters like this make me feel bad. I'll put out like 250-275k overall at 484 ilvl.

I must be doing SOMETHING wrong

[unreal onyx]

I don't have one either

if that makes you feel better

[summer quail]

in what dungeons tho? the one he posted was everbloom so the overall is higher, same goes for brh

[dense elbow]

People with legendary, is also more likely to be online

[acoustic furnace]

Looking at an AD log I did 145k overall. It says it's a 94 parse but it feels like I did shitty. Timed the key but I wanna do the big numbers.

[unreal onyx]

145k is pretty low imo

[acoustic furnace]

I agree

[summer quail]

ye if you did 145k at 484 you're doing something wrong. most likely not pressing cds

[unreal onyx]

I think you can expect at least 200k in every dungeon

[acoustic furnace]

The question is how did I parse 94 for damage then? Am I misreading the log?

[lapis lion]

a ton of people dont log m+ because its kinda worthless

[acoustic furnace]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1LTMBrf2NKZVY4t7#fight=4&type=damage-done&options=65536

[unreal onyx]

m+ parses are a meme

they don't really say anything

[dense elbow]

Nobody usually logs m+ too

Now, if your overall is 150k in AD, you prob doing a lot of pulls where mobs are being dragged around. Prob not chaining saurids asap and that jazz.

Hard to say if it is low, because of you, or the tank pulls

[acoustic furnace]

We did wipe twice and I died one extra time. That would have a big impact on overall DPS, yeah?

[dense elbow]

Probably

[unreal onyx]

depends if you die in a big pull or just get assasinated when 1 mob is left

[summer quail]

m+ parses are pretty memey

[unreal onyx]

but yea it has an impact

but even with that 145k is too low to what you can do

[acoustic furnace]

Yeah I know that's why I'm confused ab what I'm fucking up.

[left perch]

yes being able to quickly recognize things that are harmful or negative is a great survival trait. In this case, the warrior may very unlikely subscribe to an additional MMO

[acoustic furnace]

I mean sometimes I'll hold CDs to use them in the next pack. Should I just be sending shit as soon as it comes up no matter what's in front of me?

[unreal onyx]

was the key a pug or group?

[acoustic furnace]

Pug

[unreal onyx]

you're using signet brand which is also not too ideal

especially for pugs

but not using that is not gonna give you 60k

[clever path]

Augury might is bis for m+ right?

[unreal onyx]

yes

[acoustic furnace]

Yeah but I don't have Augury yet 😦

Seen 5 of them and have gotten none

[unreal onyx]

then I would recommend crab

as a passive

[acoustic furnace]

I don't have crab. How is Mirror or Serpent Coil? Coil seems decent but idk

[dense elbow]

Shamba, easiest way for you to know if you did ok is:
Did you time the key?
Did you do competitive DPS with your peers?
If yes, then ya did fine. It ain't something to worry about, before it is a problem. As performance is directly linked to the team you are in at the time.

Also, block is a great trink for more OF value

[summer quail]

i send 99% of the time, sure there are times where i know there's a big pull coming up. also i never hold odyns

fury does no damage outside cds, so important you use them

[dense elbow]

I hold OF if the mob is at sub 1mill HP

[cunning moth]

I mean unless you’re doing less than tank and have attitude like that guy (omg it’s his spec he can’t do both aoe and sp) and willing to learn you’re good man

[summer quail]

ye tru, but the mob is basically dead then

[wanton mirage]

I envy other classes whose CD are always up in every pack. Used to be our niche.

[acoustic furnace]

Yeah I know I'm not awful I use CC and I kick spells I do mechanics blah blah blah. But I wanna do BETTER.

[dense elbow]

Then get a team, improve as a unit

[summer quail]

watch someone better than you do keys them emulate what they do. critcake for example

[acoustic furnace]

I do watch him

No idea wtf is going on tho his team just plays on another level lol

[dense elbow]

As I said, team matters

[summer quail]

to be more exact, tank matters

[dense elbow]

All matters

[acoustic furnace]

Also I have my brother as a pocket healer we've just been struggling to find others

Anyone good usually already has a team or guild they run with

[summer quail]

ye ofc, tank matters a ton tho. if the tank pulls like shit then you're not gonna do damage

[dense elbow]

Someone miss their AoE stops, interrupt, ninja pull? Huge issues in PuGs

[wanton mirage]

ask mother for 3 more brothers

[dense elbow]

[acoustic furnace]

I have 6 brothers only two of us play wow lol

[dense elbow]

Just do your best to network in-game, things will work itself out

[wanton mirage]

I did get some network during my S2 push, now like 70% of them stopped playing.

[unreal onyx]

I didn’t network at all so far

[dense elbow]

crex kills network nodes, confirmed

[unreal onyx]

I „pushed“ in SL S3 pug only to see how far I could go

I think I got rank 350 world warrior or smthn

Which was pretty good for me

[dense elbow]

If ya ain't #1, why mention it?

Rule #1, be #1 or you simply are not #1.

[unreal onyx]

Becoming #1 in anything without a group is literally impossible

[dense elbow]

Tsk tsk tsk

[acoustic furnace]

Yeaaahhh after seeing a coordinated group with a DH doing 1mil in single target i don't wanna pug any more.

[wanton mirage]

still mad that S2 would have been like be one of best season for Fury to push, then Aug is dropped and ruined that experience.

[acoustic furnace]

If anyone has a good guild or m+ centered discord shoot me a link in DMs I gotta find some consistent people to play with

[dense elbow]

Ye, we did get gutted by aug, but - we are at least still decent.

[still swift]

as if anyone would take some dude whos surprised by dhs

smh

[dense elbow]

There are dead specs and classes

[unreal onyx]

Monk is pretty dead, no?

[modest condor]

no

[dense elbow]

Heard after the buff, they decent

[modest condor]

none of the monk specs are bad right now

[unreal onyx]

I haven’t come across a lot of monks for some time now

[modest condor]

they have always been one of the least played classes

[left perch]

isn’t mw s tier rn for keys

[craggy moss]

u guys use might or mirror in combination with augury for m+???

[unreal onyx]

Might

[dense elbow]

Might

[acoustic furnace]

You gotta work to be this much of an ass or does it come naturally?

[lavish grove]

Especially after recent buffs no, they are pretty good

[still swift]

mwah

[lavish grove]

For everyone tbh

Ban aug

[ashen socket]

I mean

fury is huge rn in keys

[glad coyote]

this week we suck

[ashen socket]

You literally don't take damage

[glad coyote]

cause of affix

[ashen socket]

Affix is a joke to deal with

[violet trail]

We do not do affix and chill. Thats what we do

[ashen socket]

If people aren't taking you into their key because of the affix and they already have 2 dispells its probably a sign that its bricked anyway

Think of it as a time save

[glad coyote]

@ashen socket wjat io are you?

[ashen socket]

3132 probs gonna be 3200 at the end of the week

[violet trail]

You need 2 people to do affix. 3 in like.. Fall maybe?

Where there are really nasty dispels. Taking a full party that can do affix is just a big, why?

[ashen socket]

Yeah fall deffo needs 3 sadly

[low folio]

i hate afflicted solely because it makes me feel like im lagging when it gets off

[ashen socket]

yeah

deffo shit

but its pretty free outside of some of the issues with it

That said

ur only gonna hate yourself by pugging

make friends and push

life comes way easier

instead of the whole

que for 30 mins

to either que your own key up or get in one to only brick it

[violet trail]

You cant tell people to make friends.

Thats non inclusive speech for people with social anxiety or whatever.

[ashen socket]

Fuck em then

gg ez

If you can't socialize on the internet cause of anxiety then there is a serious problem

[clever path]

Social anxiety is a lie

[true sapphire]

Tell me more, man in niche online gaming discord.

[humble plover]

making friends is hard when you have a self destructive personality and an IQ so low you can only play warrior

[true sapphire]

Truth

[narrow narwhal]

:woo:

[ashen socket]

Just spell reflect the self destruct 4 head

[summer quail]

Hey don't sell yourself short, you can also play hunter

[ashen socket]

LOL

[humble plover]

no, they have a job on incorporeal weeks

too hard

[ashen socket]

Mouseover macros are great

[violet condor]

what made them good in season 3 mongdo dmg or something?