fury

[still swift]

suit yourself

[fringe vale]

thats why im asking surely there is someone that has one that works after nerf

[still swift]

the most popular one of these WAs even said it in their own description :)

[fringe vale]

it still helps man

[still swift]

but for what it's worth, just typing in smolderon wave shows one called Mythic 4 lines, so try it out!

[fringe vale]

bruh how tf i miss that i searched like 30min ago

[still swift]

🥷🏻

[fringe vale]

ill check it out ty

[sterile remnant]

You might want to convert some of that haste into a bit of crit and vers

[upper hatch]

Question if this is the right channel: how do I not suck ass without heirlooms in dungeons?

[fickle bluff]

levelling? you dont
heirlooms are generally the highest ilvl things you can get while levelling

[upper hatch]

A lot of gold I don't have though

[still swift]

you play tank

and dont worry about it

press thunderclap and let others hit the work

[upper hatch]

I already tank in xiv, I just wanna brain off and hit things

[still swift]

let's not act like tanking aint the most braindead role for leveling in wow and in ff as a whole

[upper hatch]

It is, but I just like hitting stuff

[thorny cove]

is 486 crafted shadowflame cloak bis?

seeing a lot of warrs using it

[rustic obsidian]

anyone tested mirror trink on smolderon (usage during buff)?

[fringe vale]

sim it. but the loggic behind crafted gear on cloack and wrist is bc those 2 slots are the ones that provide the less amount of main stat and 2nd stat of all the others, so having them at 483 isnt that bad like having idk pants or belt 489

[tender seal]

Can do a sim with it 😊 will post soon

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gQHHa3YZFdLG8bpVnUzz8G
It's good, but not as good as might according to sim.

[fair wolf]

Do you sim better 2xWafting or Wafting/Sophic?

[still swift]

majority of ppl will sim better w double wafting i think

[clever path]

2x wafting + mastery vers gems is like 150 less dps than earthen wafting vers mastery gems

[fringe vale]

i feel this combination might be better for aoe, ive simed it tho and for me its not worth it

[young swan]

would recommend giving earthen writ a sim as well

its been popping up for some people recently, myself included

[rustic obsidian]

thx 🙂 i have it in my bags so was wondering

[fringe vale]

siming it? or testing it ingame?

[young swan]

in sims

no one is testing stat proc enchants in game

[fringe vale]

nah i meant like when u sim it but diff isnt much and u have one of those feelings that u gotta test it urself

[young swan]

ah

[clever path]

frozen isnt bad either

[ionic dirge]

I actually might give up on this class this patch, its imposibble to get into pug 24/25 keys for real, and this week its even harder as I dont have any utility for the team

What a useless class for real

Cant play what I love in pug I guess..

[frail trout]

I'm not pushing at all but I might gear up a class that can do some real uncapped aoe just to have some fun with it

Feels bad to do runs where the tank does giga pulls and I just fall off after my burst

Which isn't even as high as burst from those same uncapped classes

Perhaps they are just soft capped but it's better than only hitting 5 things after cds run dry

[ionic dirge]

For uncapped just play hunter, its easy and you to decent single as well

The only thing is you are paper in high keys

[frail trout]

I'm thinking of trying dh

[ionic dirge]

Yea DH of course forgot that one

Yea just play DH

[frail trout]

Watching their damage grow instead of stagnate on big pulls just seems absurd

[ionic dirge]

I might actually swap to DH this patch

[frail trout]

Like it literally just keeps going up

[ionic dirge]

Im doing already higher dps then my warrior as DH and I dont have bis gear

My warrior is 485 DH is 477 without trinkets and I oudps it

sad times

[indigo quarry]

because fury bad

[still swift]

have you hidden your rage bar yet?

[modest talon]

what u mean O.O how many warriors

[indigo quarry]

Whats a rage bar

[fading bison]

anyone know if the droptimizer sims are broken its recomending me to break 4 piece and take weird items

[cosmic lance]

BC is more st/prio oriented choice

[eternal sundial]

Bc makes u do whack ass st and more cdr so it's funnier

Imo

[eager cipher]

Yeah, I found BC much better

[cosmic lance]

Click whatever you want then

That level of optmisation is probably not relevant at the stuff you're doing

Its a very minor change

Yeah can click either and forget about it

[eternal sundial]

Play season 2 build in aoe until you have 4p

[summer quail]

link the sim

[eternal sundial]

With 2p2p youd wanna play new build on single target

[fading bison]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ueKuU2PAH2HqGK59KVuEwa

[cosmic lance]

That's a dungeon slice top gear sim comparing enchants?

[summer quail]

that sim isn't recommending dropping 4p

[fading bison]

wrong sim lol

[hoary locust]

is there some easy way to use spear during opener? some ez macro?

[summer quail]

there's @pulsar wing macro, to automatically cast it at your feet

[pulsar heart]

dude called player in the discord right now :

https://tenor.com/view/discord-ping-pingus-bingus-cat-gif-18905873

[hoary locust]

can i use spear with reck in macro

[summer quail]

ye fuk that guy, he's getting a ping

[worldly shard]

bis fury warr name

need the 100k honorable achievo title

[summer quail]

it would be, if it didn't have a special "e"

[worldly shard]

hellscream of the horde

i can buy that name with gold lol

if the owner is willing to sell it

either Garrosh or Hellscream

only 800 more flighstones to go and im all 483+

[eternal sundial]

It anything get warlord of draenor title

But still cringe rper either way

[hollow elk]

legit dont get how people can play with some famous characters name.

[clever belfry]

they just like it 🤷‍♂️

[eternal sundial]

This @clever belfry guy runs around with the famous char name andasimp idk how ppl can play with famous names man

[clever belfry]

most famously

drandadn

[hollow elk]

poser

[eternal sundial]

Andapamp famed slayer of denathrius 100 parse avg

[clever belfry]

💀

i have one tier with average and median 99.9

ama

[eternal sundial]

1 kill andies

[clever belfry]

it was 2 on all bosses

[eternal sundial]

Insane in the membrane

[clever belfry]

ok maybe not

lol

gg

[eternal sundial]

Washed

[clever belfry]

actually so real

[vivid egret]

does it matter if i do normal fyrakk or heroic first when trying to get lego?

[hollow elk]

would probably bebetter to do highest difficulty first for accumulated chance of getting it ....whatever that accumulated amount is

[indigo quarry]

did you steal Gajeel parse ?

[clever belfry]

once upon i time i wouldve

[ebon chasm]

I got mine this week, I did normal first and it gave me another greater thingy then did hc and it dropped.

[proud vessel]

When do we use might of the ocean?

with reck or ith avatar?

[oblique trail]

Before OF in the opener, before Avatar mid fight if you don't have OF ready

[last ginkgo]

guys what are the optimal 2ndary stats more or less for fury?

before going for versa

[oblique trail]

Depends on your gear, which is why it's recommended to just sim top gear

But mastery > anything typically

Specific amounts don't matter for Fury, and if they did, top gear will take them into account

[last ginkgo]

i see

im 34 crit 31 haste 40 mastery 17 versa dunno if its good

[oblique trail]

Your stats are a bit skewed compared to what you'd typically see. I'd recommend simming top gear, and optionally droptimiser, to see where you could swap stats around

Either through recrafts of crafted gear, gems, enchants, or any other offpieces of gear you might have

[last ginkgo]

oh droptimiser tells me?

thank you

[oblique trail]

Droptimiser gives a good overview of potential upgrades

[last ginkgo]

i thought there is like a more or less aim for X percent of X stat

[oblique trail]

No

There isn't any such thing

Fury isn't locked into any specific amounts, as I mentioned before

[last ginkgo]

i see ^^

thank you very much

[proud vessel]

what is the macro command for using trinket?

/use 14?

[oblique trail]

13 or 14

[proud vessel]

thanks

[oblique trail]

13 is first trinket, 14 second trinket

[clever belfry]

new banezi pfp

[eternal sundial]

rare occurance

[narrow narwhal]

:woo:

[clever belfry]

emote failure

[narrow narwhal]

i don't have the fancy discord thing

my :woo: army always backs me up though

[eternal sundial]

surely these LFR players wont ninjapull the boss before i can use the lego

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[clever belfry]

would never happen on volcoross

[covert blaze]

[eternal sundial]

ironically only happened on gnarl for me

but i got it now

[clever belfry]

kang

[eternal sundial]

only this dogshit fuckery left

[spice hemlock]

which enchant on weapon?

[clever belfry]

[eternal sundial]

wafting/earthen wrist/sim

[clever belfry]

even frozen writ for some

or even the bad word (sophic)

p sure sophic just sims highest for me with might+augury

[eternal sundial]

ive never seen frozen idk

[clever belfry]

cause no mainstat trinket

spongus uses frozen i think?

[eternal sundial]

a

weird

[clever belfry]

@warm crag

[eternal sundial]

ill check for me then

[clever belfry]

we had a mage in raid use

sophic writ

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

bro rocks up to m fyrakk with sophic writ

[eternal sundial]

wha

[clever belfry]

balkan mage

[eternal sundial]

frost or arcane

but HUH for either tbh

[clever belfry]

🔥

[eternal sundial]

havent had that sim well for my fire ever

in all of df

[clever belfry]

🤷‍♂️ ask him idfk

[eternal sundial]

tbf i dont have much fire xp this tier

and now ur stats flipped kinda

migtht be ok now

[pallid idol]

Is that quest line fairly long ?

[eternal sundial]

its gated by stupid quest item cds

i have to wait 5 mins per click and need to click 20 times for this quest zzzz

[unreal onyx]

Did you buy supplies epics?

[ebon chasm]

Anyone in here online EU that can make 486 boots?

[eternal sundial]

you just have to wait till it tells u what element to buy

[eternal sundial]

its server based so just use tradechat

[ebon chasm]

My trade chat is solid spam of boosters 🤣

[still swift]

ok go complain more

[eternal sundial]

will do

[warm crag]

earthern?? idk i dont wanna launch the game to check

where anda prison ??

[clever belfry]

wdym

im in

uni work prison rn

[warm crag]

huh ???

[clever belfry]

average 30th dec behaviour (average 31st deadline)

[warm crag]

but now u have prison pfp

[clever belfry]

ah

discord 🐌

[warm crag]

schneckentempo

enjoy uni prison

[clever belfry]

i made the ugliest DNA-strand graphic to ever exist

[left perch]

Why doesn’t it say TACG

[clever belfry]

cause its the reverse complement

reverse

but it should be
GCAT

not GCTA xd

[left perch]

that part I didn’t want to ask and seem stupid

I was like maybe it’s a dna thing I don’t get but I would’ve thought gcat

[clever belfry]

i mean i dont know shit about this DNA stuff

i just know what to do with them computationally

kinda

a bit

i dropped biology as a subject after middle school

[left perch]

yea idk my wife works in some genetics thing

she likes to yap about it on zoom a lot

[balmy shore]

i study fury warrior

[clever belfry]

now i have to understand this shit

(i do not understand this shit)

[eternal sundial]

the correct choice

[clever belfry]

tbf this whole genetics shit is kinda intresting

[eternal sundial]

i narrowly avoided a bad decision and didnt do bio abi

[left perch]

[clever belfry]

and theres a lot of pharma stuff in my area (rhine-main)

and bio informatics is in uhh high demand

[clever belfry]

physics maths pol-sci gang

[eternal sundial]

i did history german english bio "traditional" oral exam

whack combo but worked idk

[clever belfry]

i had to do english oral exam

was freelo ofc

[eternal sundial]

think my worst exam ended up being german cuz i didnt re-read the book and didnt quote enougb

but it wasnt by any means bad

[clever belfry]

think my worst was pol-sci?

idr

[final birch]

Tf is pol sci

[clever belfry]

political science basically

its not really what we had, but its closest to that

[eternal sundial]

germans have a weird mix subject with a untranslatable name

and its not even the same nation wide

[clever belfry]

i mean the direct translation would be Social Studies

[final birch]

Ah

[clever belfry]

but we basically only did pol sci topics

cause our teacher was based

[eternal sundial]

mine for ex was called politics, society, economy

but very little was eco

[final birch]

Mine was called knowledge about society

If were talking about middle school

[clever belfry]

twas high school

[eternal sundial]

^^

[final birch]

Ye high school

But I was lucky enough not to get any orals

Bc covid

[clever belfry]

i graduated high school in uh

2017?

i think?

[final birch]

So I just did extended maths physics and english

I graduated in 2022

Sooooo

[eternal sundial]

i cant remember when i did but its recentish

last year n this just a blur of whack shit

[clever belfry]

idk covid years are a blur

[left perch]

everyone makes me feel so old

[final birch]

Agreed

[eternal sundial]

exactly

[clever belfry]

but i got most of a comp sci degree done in that time

so i mustve done fucking soemthing

[final birch]

Covid hit me in 1st year of hs

[left perch]

2004 high school vs 2017

[clever belfry]

ok boomer

[left perch]

Holy moly

[final birch]

And the first like 6 months of school

[eternal sundial]

yeppa same "oh wow 2 more weeks of vacation"

[final birch]

Are x3 longer in my memories than the following 2 years

On god

Half the time it was wake up drink coffee log to zoom and sit on disc with friends

[clever belfry]

pov u sit around during fastnacht 2020 joking about this funny chinese virus haha!!

💀 💀 💀 💀

[final birch]

Then after school sit more, eat sleep and repeat

[eternal sundial]

bro i went to the cinema on my birthday and then get the email a day after

[dire badge]

[eternal sundial]

gg next 3 years gone

[clever belfry]

no u

[dire badge]

anda I hope ur Saturday owns

[clever belfry]

i does in fact not

[dire badge]

[left perch]

Isn’t it Friday

[clever belfry]

i need to finish a draft for this pres until tomorrow (midnight, nye)

its sat

[left perch]

Lord he’s from the future

[summer quail]

you work on new years anda?

[clever belfry]

no

i dont work

the prof did say i can also send it in on the 1st

but lets be realistic

i aint doing shit on the first

[left perch]

Wait holy shit is not Friday

[clever belfry]

???

[eternal sundial]

[clever belfry]

yes if u need to get shopping done for NYE celeb

do it today!!

unless u live in a good country

where shops are open sunday

[left perch]

I do not

[clever belfry]

(couldnt be germany)

[left perch]

(USA)

[clever belfry]

ur shit also closed

ff

[left perch]

nah it’s open

but not a good country

[clever belfry]

gg

i mean id be fine if it wasnt 7am-9pm like most stores here

[left perch]

wife is doing a lotr cooking thing

[clever belfry]

but like 10am-4pm

[left perch]

12 hours of movie plus

lembas bread

[clever belfry]

12h of movies nah

[left perch]

and shit

Elevensies

second breakfast

[clever belfry]

i think we are just getting piss drunk cause village folk

gg

[eternal sundial]

@clever belfryman when I lived in the Uk the stores were just open on sunday

its whack

[left perch]

I meanwhile am suffering from covid

[clever belfry]

everytime im in netherlands

and its sunday

HOLY MOLY I CAN GO TO SHOP!!!

[summer quail]

i mean getting piss drunk and watching fireworks is pretty nice

[clever belfry]

not just bakery from 7-11am

[clever belfry]

try to not blow off ur hand challenge

(impossible)

[summer quail]

that's why i only watch from the balcony, fireworks are expensive

[eternal sundial]

at least my dog doesnt understand firworks n just sleeps

[clever belfry]

i didnt buy anything this year either

[eternal sundial]

ye i havent since we got the dogman

[clever belfry]

woofer

[left perch]

both our neighbors do the

guns thing

and home fireworks

[eternal sundial]

wdym the gun thing????

[clever belfry]

guns things

???

[summer quail]

the guns thing??

[clever belfry]

hope its blanks atleast???

?????

[left perch]

USA pov

[clever belfry]

surely

[left perch]

it isn’t

[clever belfry]

they dont shoot

bullets

[left perch]

it’s just

[clever belfry]

nahahahdhaha

[eternal sundial]

the european mind cannot comprehend the unnamed gun thing

[clever belfry]

nAHAHHHH

[left perch]

pew pew in the woods

[clever belfry]

ah in the woods

i thought u meant they just fire in the air

[summer quail]

like just shoot a bit in the woods?

[clever belfry]

i mean as long as they shoot at ground level at targets

surely das okay

[left perch]

yea they just unload all bullets

up the hill

[clever belfry]

kings

[left perch]

and I’m like hello our dogs

[clever belfry]

ok theres even a hill

[left perch]

and they say Freedom

[summer quail]

holy moly, that is american af

[clever belfry]

thats like PRETTY SAFE

all things considered

(its still guns)

[left perch]

there’s beer cans by the road next day

so that’s the main part I’m like

well

price u pay to live in the best (not) country ig

[clever belfry]

🇺🇸 WHAT 🦅 THE 🦅 FUCK 🦅 IS 🦅 A🦅 KILOMETER 🇺🇸

[left perch]

yea it’s that

[eternal sundial]

🇺🇸 WHAT 🦅 THE 🦅 FUCK 🦅 IS 🦅 A🦅 KILOMETER 🇺🇸

[left perch]

but they wear camo

Instead of the heritage armor

[clever path]

Trying to do a recraft order for a sword but it keeps saying "crafting order creation failed", anyone know what the issue could be?

[granite bluff]

how much dps is cruel strikes roughly

[eternal sundial]

over what and which talents

[granite bluff]

if you would just remove it, and not replace it with any talent giving you any damage

[lavish grove]

11

[low folio]

alright guys

make myself an evoker, que as aug and swap to dev during the countdown to start the key

genius

[left perch]

ye I do that too some times for weekly 18s

[clever belfry]

i unironically dont have deva gear

[left perch]

same 😦

[clever belfry]

10k mastery gang

[left perch]

deva hates mastery ya?

[clever belfry]

i think they do now

idfk

its not good tho

[left perch]

I don’t love deva it’s just

it’s nice to see my actual damage

and not have to have a degree to understand how I perform

[clever belfry]

deva is not more complicated than base aug rotation idk

• its squishier
• hover doesnt last as long

[left perch]

it’s kinda the same concept

press buttons to extend something

be a scaly

[worldly shard]

decided and lorewise these names seem bis

[left perch]

I’m not talking to you fake Anda with 1st try Tusks

[worldly shard]

3*

[final birch]

But not on monday

[clever belfry]

ye i think monday shits closed here too

[final birch]

Like

[eternal sundial]

ye

[final birch]

Lidl is open n shit

But no bakeries

[eternal sundial]

1st is a national holiday

[clever belfry]

huh

if anything its opposite here

[final birch]

Kinda weird

[clever belfry]

bakeries are the foundation of germany

[final birch]

No I mean literally on mondays

Not on 1st of jan

[clever belfry]

oh

wtf

[final birch]

Dutch people have shit closed

On mondays

[clever belfry]

keesköpp

[final birch]

Bakeries restaurants quite often

[eternal sundial]

i mean ye

restaurants also do it

[clever belfry]

they usually choose one weekday ye

my kebab is closed on mondays

😠

[eternal sundial]

😡

[final birch]

Still better than shit in poland

Like 3 or 4 days a year shits opened on sunday

Outside of a very specific shop chain that has little variety in products or some small locally owned grocery shops

[fossil pond]

did u guys see the rank 1/2 parse rn for heroic gnarlroot

wtf was that strat

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Z4wHPpYnNTt3myDv#fight=1&type=damage-done

[spice hemlock]

is legendary active ability just a dps lose?

[wicked flicker]

I love playing warrior I love playing warrior

[unreal onyx]

⚖️

[summer quail]

very smol gain

[covert blaze]

I'm almost there

Haven't done a single key this week on warrior

[left perch]

King

did you post arms parse in fury general

[storm silo]

forgive me

[left perch]

can’t even hold two swords

also nice work

[storm silo]

i shall exit in disgrace

and cover my tracks

[granite bluff]

how much dps is cruel strikes roughly

if you would just remove it, and not replace it with any talent giving you any damage

[unreal onyx]

propably realistically barely any

but you can sim

[left perch]

isn’t that the second time you asked lol

[worldly shard]

why tf are quests in zandalar invisible

trying to unlock maghar

[unreal onyx]

did you check that you get shown low level quests?

[worldly shard]

wheres that at

[unreal onyx]

in the filter of your map iirc

minimap that is

[worldly shard]

ahh its not minimap issue

i mean NPC's for turn it dont appear

but it shows questionmark on my minimap

[unreal cape]

is some one well versed / smart with WA's configuration who could help me?

[spark wraith]

Should I touch the "Fight Lenght" option for M+?

[unreal cape]

I'm basically trying to add a condition / trigger where my bloodthirst/BB will glow IF i have the furious bloodthirst stacks active, cant find how to do it

[fickle bluff]

add a trigger for it, then have it as a condition to make it glow

[unreal cape]

how do i link the condition to the trigger?

[fickle bluff]

if trigger x active true

[unreal cape]

that worked! thx very much

[left perch]

Yea the phasing in zanda is hell broken. I had an issue where I couldn’t advance a quest due to like an opposite faction alt being locked out of it once

took me like 3 weeks to debug

[tender seal]

The log is just is just fucked. One of the Warriors did about 200+ casts inside fight duration of 34 seconds lol.

[unreal cape]

is there a way to get a stronger glow? that's the only glow WA offers me, barely noticeable

thats the default blizz glow, that has better visibility

[eternal sundial]

you can change it with glow settings in wa

[unreal cape]

where is that please?

[wicked flicker]

glow type on display

[unreal cape]

i only have this

[wicked flicker]

go on display

[eternal sundial]

this thing in display

[unreal cape]

oh yeah

[kindred notch]

im wondering what are you fellas leaving in the m+ note when trying to join the party? are we forever doomed to never be considered for the melee dps as there are better picks? 😦

[unreal cape]

thats the glow i wanted, tyvm!

im new to WA configuration and its pretty complicated / overwhelming at times

[wicked flicker]

I dont put a note, just apply and hope to get an invite

[noble elm]

Nothing because no one will read it

[unreal cape]

nothing, either u get invited or not. note wont help

thats just the general curse of being warrior / not meta / not having great utility / being useless on afflicted / incorporeal weeks etc

what helps is your score, runs completed, best runs, ilvl

[wicked flicker]

Higher chance to get invited to groups with demon hunters and hunters in because it means they can feel good when they demolish you on the dps meters

[kindred notch]

haha that's valid

[kindred notch]

yeah I get it, im 486 ilvl and I'd never aim to apply for a dung which is 2 levels above my current record

[unreal cape]

excatly. even applying to 1 higher is hard, but thats what u gotta do when u want to improve your score

[lavish grove]

Sad part that they don't do anything with afflicted either

[unreal cape]

that was more of a joke. you wont see any dh / bm / warrior this week cuz nobody can do affix

in higher keys*

[kindred notch]

valid points

[wicked flicker]

I just dont understand why we dont do good dps when dps is literally all we bring

hunters have the most essential utility in the game and also do insane dps

warriors bring nothing and do nothing

[unreal cape]

yeah its just how things are sadly, most warriors aren't happy about it, but you can't do anything about it

either you keep playing and pray that blizz won't keep ignoring us, or just play another class

it fkn sucks that warrior wasn't even MENTIONED a SINGLE time in ALL of the class tunings since S3 started of dragonflight

[lavish grove]

Surely they'll rework warrior at some point

[cosmic lance]

This week feels especially bad tbh as you need to be stacked on dispels for some dungeons

[unreal cape]

yeah man, i'm also huffing that

even despite all that, i still generally like warrior, it's the class i've played most of the time when playing wow over all the years

but it could sure use lots of improvements / help. especially utility wise

[near gust]

well i dont expect any meaningful work b4 next expanion but why they just dont give us 5-10% damage buff is beyond me

[unreal cape]

or dont give us utiltiy but then give us big DAM. so we can realize the true ZUG ZUG life

[unreal cape]

yeah same. i dont think anything is gonna happen before next xpac

its just we've fallen behind more and more over the last weeks while most other classes continued gaining incremental dmg increases, we got nothing

[near gust]

like i dont do high end conent so i dont care tbh but i just dont understand thought process behind that

[unreal cape]

blizz class balance just isn't perfect, its flawed

some classes / specs are left at the bottom. utility or dmg wise

blizz loves mages for example, thats why they buffed them recently even though they were already performing well. now they're part of the S3 "god comp" ( for high end keys)

[unreal onyx]

feral

[unreal cape]

you could say that they weren't performing as good in raid, compared to mythic plus yeah. but then maybe a seperate tuning for m+ / raid would make sense potentially. but thats a lot more work for blizz so yeah

[cosmic lance]

Feral also has the issue of chicken being reliably not-bad

[unreal cape]

yeah

[left perch]

ret had that problem for a long time when both other specs were always pretty good

[lavish grove]

Feral is pretty good tbf

Or maybe I just play with good one

[eternal sundial]

feral gained innervate

has a better wall that the other druid dps

brings versa buff

has druid util

in sl i woulda agreed but in df feral is just good

[lavish grove]

Also does good dmg, if stuff don't die in 10 seconds

[junior gale]

big change was innervate not taking you outta form anymore

[tepid sentinel]

I know simming is best bet but what crafts do you reccomend for a fresh fury warrior this late into season

[eternal sundial]

vers wrist sf cloak

you can do sf boots/wrist instead for a tiny bit more st but less aoe

[olive wraith]

Crafting in general isn’t as good as previous seasons since it doesn’t go max ilvl

So after embellish you can craft filler pieces just for ilvl but they will get replaced eventually

[eternal sundial]

ye i got no uppies from crafting anymore after 4 crafts

[olive wraith]

Let me craft signet and augury

[clever path]

i haven't even played since 2005

wtf

[worldly shard]

fixed it

[lavish grove]

You won't craft max ilvl piece right away, and campaign/rep gives 2 free crests

[worldly shard]

had Loremaster for BFA done on alt but i still had to re-do introduction quests

[olive wraith]

Doesn’t negate my statement lol

[worldly shard]

now they appeared and im phased in

[left perch]

yea it’s weird like that

[olive wraith]

I also said it’s good for interim ilvl

[left perch]

glad you got phased in quick tho

[worldly shard]

any point in doing Loremaster apart from Title?

[lavish grove]

No you didn't

[left perch]

“A life well spent”

[worldly shard]

i mean unlocks might be helpful and shit like that

[olive wraith]

^

[lavish grove]

Achievement points

[olive wraith]

You can craft filler pieces for ilvl

How is that not the same

[worldly shard]

considering i want to do reps loremaster might be a good start

[lavish grove]

Yep

[worldly shard]

i only have bfa/df/sl loremaster done

[lavish grove]

I did all loremaster achievements aside from kalimdor/eastern kingdoms (arguably most time consuming) during downtime in bfa

Ogri'la rep grind

[worldly shard]

is the rep good?

atleast getting a good baseline

[lavish grove]

It's decent, yea

For some fractions it's bigger part of rep cap

[worldly shard]

gonna have to do it on a singel char then

[eternal sundial]

be human for reps

[worldly shard]

maghar orc

fuck ally

[lavish grove]

I did it all on my dh

Big mistake

[eternal sundial]

maghar is such a shit race

[lavish grove]

At least you can cosplay grommash

[worldly shard]

gonna rename my warr into Zugfang

[slate sinew]

Whats best, Phial of Tepid Versatility or Corrupting Rage?

[olive wraith]

For pure damage?

Rage is I think but you can sim

I prefer vers cause you get extra survivability

[still idol]

guys when i have 40ms what i shoud put lag tolerance

[round spade]

Don't tolerate lag, it should tolerate you no cap

[tender crown]

hi does anyone know if lariat can still be good if you have enough sockets?

[wispy thistle]

Anyone have the spell reflect WA? Mine keeps breaking

@tender crown It MIGHT be worth it if you have max sockets

[olive wraith]

It pulls ahead on aoe with enough sockets

Patch is still better for st iirc

[tender crown]

ty i guess i will sim it eventually

[acoustic furnace]

Lariat is the big stinky on warrior

[unique lake]

Check #ui-addons-manager commonly gets posted there else search Spell reflect essentials on Wago

[wintry robin]

How warrior actually benefits from battle shout/5% attack power buff? Sorry if it's a stupid question but I read different things about that and I'm confused.

Is it only auto attacks and several spells (like Heoric Throw which literally includes weapon throw) or it includes everything warrior cast?

[modest condor]

everything

[unreal cape]

https://wago.io/tDT26wrXg

[cedar edge]

Gigachads just spell reflect on CD

[unreal cape]

lol

so you'll basically miss every time you actual can spell reflect 👍

[cedar edge]

healer diff tho

[worldly shard]

finally a unique and easy to get transmog that i got after 3 attempts

[thorny peak]

3 attampts... sure

[worldly shard]

ahh yes and the swords that i got on my 2nd kill

[acoustic furnace]

I got tusks on a shadow priest and I no longer run tmog raids because fuck my life

[worldly shard]

also a common drop i think

[junior gale]

gotta wait till TWW to start tmog farming cuz it will finally be worth it then

[worldly shard]

nvm it was 4 kills for tusks

ahh normal doesnt count

now need to level maghar to lvl50 for the pure garrosh mog experience

[acoustic furnace]

Nah you gotta play a Nelf. Gimme my 8 foot tall muscle mommy.

[still swift]

dont forget to call yourself Gaerrosh or similar

[clever belfry]

die

respectfully

[worldly shard]

lmao

[left perch]

(in video game)

[worldly shard]

btw

bis

[clever belfry]

?

[worldly shard]

?

[acoustic furnace]

?

[sonic magnet]

cringe

[wispy thistle]

^

[eternal sundial]

^

[tardy lark]

I wanna have fun with rp things

but rp things arent fun

[fiery harbor]

did anyone yet name their character Geddon and use the Baron title or nuh

[tardy lark]

pretty sure this game would be omega giga cool if i felt cool about having a lore accurate name

[red berry]

"hello" i look at you. i fucking collapse into myself like a singularity

good rp thanks

[prisma crow]

Do people still use Pawn? Is there some importable scales for it that would correspond with the stat prio? My pawn still has scales like in the pic and I've gone off of that since now and my haste is 46%. Just found at that the prio has changed since when I last played 😄

[oblique trail]

No, people don't use pawn anymore

[past pivot]

Don't use pawn

[prisma crow]

Sick lmao

[oblique trail]

For stats people use Raidbots -> Top Gear primarily

And to figure out which items to target farm in keys etc., Droptimiser

[still swift]

wtf its banezi

[oblique trail]

wtf its Nina

[still swift]

wtf

[oblique trail]

what a crazy coincidence to meet Nina here

[unreal cape]

hmm... so i finally got gorehowl to drop from rise. sim results are just showing it as 0.1% dmg increase (200-270 dps) thats disappointing

[past pivot]

Get a 489 from Vault

[unreal cape]

oh yeah, sure

i'll just get 489 on next vault. gg

[hasty path]

bro thinks he's him

[left perch]

what is demonbane tertiary

should I just Google

why do we have weirdge tertiary popping up lately wtf

[modest condor]

does extra damage to demons

[still swift]

because they made 1 dungeon with gimmicky tertiaries

crazy

[left perch]

I think I saw it on my DH at first and thought it was like, some dh specific thing

then I saw it on Gorehowl

[still swift]

• cloth boots (spirit)

• rogue & dh weapons (timestrike)

• gorehowl (demonbane)

[past pivot]

Enjoy both the dungeons with demons in it and hope S4 has more of them

[still swift]

• str 1h (scourgebane)

uhhh

1 leather legs with inbuilt leech but thats nothin spec

[calm mantle]

Are there any invis skips in throne?

[clever path]

https://raider.io/characters/us/stormrage/Offénsive

is really do be the shitters that get the leggo

[olive wraith]

Only if you wipe in the last hall

Pretty sure you need to kill basically everything for count

[final birch]

Goblin pack can be skipped

Last goblin pack

[olive wraith]

That pack is so free though

[quick mango]

saw a random ret in town with the legendary weapon

no hc fyrakk kills

all healing parses

what a chad

[worldly shard]

I am him

[hasty path]

https://tenor.com/view/your-not-that-guy-yourenotthatguy-gif-22098263

[gritty wadi]

Is DW still overall highest dmg in SoD? Also, i remember being told that a slow main hand wep was good at max level due to instant attacks. but does that matter when you only using heroic strike?

[modest condor]

what

[oblique trail]

This isn't a Classic or Season of Discovery discord

https://discord.gg/RbCZJtw

This server should cover it though

[gritty wadi]

Thank you!

[vapid mulch]

so what numbers are u guys pulling in say a 25 everbloom?

400+?

[gritty wadi]

I only see wotlk threads there? No classic/SoD?

[oblique trail]

I've never been on it, it's just more Classic oriented than this server is

This is primarily a retail server

[brittle crow]

need mountain thane rn

[warm crag]

Noo_

[oblique trail]

_

[still swift]

_

[fossil hatch]

With or without aug

[tacit crag]

According to warcraftlogs the median seems to be about 300-330k this week in 25 everbloom. But DPS varies a lot key to key. If you're doing like 200k then you have a problem otherwise if you're timing the key it's whatever.

[vapid mulch]

yeah thats fair, i just feel like my dps is low, but im always comparing to w/e meta class we take as our 5th

[tacit crag]

M+ isn't like raid where you can optimize CD usage and every run is the same routine, so optimizing or comparing DPS is kinda pointless.

[vapid mulch]

i pulled 376 in a 25 and we timed it with a minute left

[tacit crag]

Then you're fine.

[vapid mulch]

ive done that same key wit han uh, a demo and a dh and all just obliterated me

[tacit crag]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/36#boss=61279&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&leaderboards=1&bracket=25&affixes=767

Compare all you want if you'd like.

Some top runs are 350k others are 270k. It's a lot of variance. It also varies week to week based on affixes.

[vapid mulch]

this is actually really nice to see, thanks

[final birch]

To be absolutely fair its not a binary thing

[tacit crag]

The third ranking on there is 289k DPS and the fourth is 330k both with augs and done in the same time. However the third DPS in dh and other Boomie. Boomie did less overall than dh so more DPS for warrior to make up/have. Doesn't always work out that way but yeah that's an example of how DPS can vary a lot.

[final birch]

Unless you’re not much lower than avg of 25’s and you have decent boss dam I’d feel fine

[vapid mulch]

no ofc, but im sensible enough, if u guys said oh we're all pulling 450k + id know something was up

but it seems im doing fine

[final birch]

450 augless seems omega cracked

Like insane dh level cracked

[vapid mulch]

just feels bad being so far under the locks + DHs lol

[final birch]

But 376 augless is definitely very good

[vapid mulch]

it wasnt augless lol

[eternal sundial]

Nothing u cant rlly do

[final birch]

Oh

[eternal sundial]

Lego helps but ye

[final birch]

Still good enough

For a 25

[vapid mulch]

yh, we timed it 🤷‍♂️

[eternal sundial]

Then it was enough dam

[vapid mulch]

just wanted to see if i was hard sandbagging us

[final birch]

Idk I always pike to cope

And tell myself that I bring prio

If im much lower than bms or dhs as arms

[eternal sundial]

I cope i bring prio within my 5 cap

[final birch]

Doing same boss dam basically and even higher on 1st boss

[warm crag]

you bring nothing

now click esc -> logout and log fire mage

[restive peak]

I’ve managed a few 27s augless this tier but you can literally feel how much easier it’d be if it was an Aug and me on DH, I didn’t really feel that way last tier. Not as strongly

Is sad

[eternal sundial]

My mage has had x2 first 2 and didnt get staff

Dead char

[final birch]

Au contraire

Feels like augless is easier this tier than last

Imo

U have ad 29’s done augless, some like tot 28 or sth augless

Somewhat top keys

[restive peak]

I guess, the damage being so high is just crazy. We’re not at risk, but others are. Rogue Mage DH at least have a ton of tools as a 3 dps group

[still idol]

you guys run witch dancing blades or titanic rage in this week ?

[restive peak]

DB always brotherrrrr

[cosmic adder]

I haven't run titanic rage ever again since I swapped to dancing blades permanently last month

[eternal sundial]

DB bangs hard

[final birch]

Fr its that good

I only tried tr

[summer quail]

hmhh

[still idol]

looks good for m+ or nah ? using 2x hissing rune and crit flask

[oblique trail]

sure

[still idol]

nothing to change ?

[oblique trail]

You tell me, do a raidbots sim if you're curious

[past pivot]

Can't tell much from an image

[oblique trail]

looks fine

[restive peak]

Bruh you got maaad vers holy fuck

[oblique trail]

Would probably use a vers flask instead of crit

But yeah

[oblique trail]

With Ember I got 29% no wrists stacks

no Ember 25%

swimming in vers at this point

[still idol]

ye i do like +25 keys

[unreal onyx]

weekly disappointment

[robust widget]

[unreal onyx]

upgrade your might

[robust widget]

you said you'd get it this week

[unreal onyx]

I clearly lied

[still idol]

mabye i get weappon mythic

i saved for weappon

@oblique trail so better vers flask right ?

[calm mantle]

Finally got my might of the ocean

[oblique trail]

Either one works, Vers is just consistent and always active

And gives a slight bit more DR

[unreal onyx]

crit is kinda rng

[still idol]

ok

[restive peak]

That’s nutty man, I run considerably less. Hmmm

[unreal onyx]

at least I don't have purple parses left

[cosmic adder]

7 points away from 3200 but our tank is on vacation for 2 weeks

[calm mantle]

Time to pug

LOL

[cosmic adder]

I would rather eat my own fingers one by one

[calm mantle]

I pugged most of my rating to 3k but i guess after 3k is a different ball game

[wet notch]

easiest way to sim for m+ i just need a rough est not accurate.

[final birch]

Na

Not really

If u mean that u need premades or vc then nah

[gilded pawn]

Full st

[past pivot]

Take your best top gear and replace trinkets for M+

[final birch]

Been pugging 25-26 since week 2 voiceless

Not all of them succeeded but cant always do that

[wet notch]

that confuses me, sorry.

so im not siming 5 bosses for 5 mins im assuming to get a rough est

[meager void]

best top gear for ST and then sim trinkets for M+ (thought its might+ 99% of the time)

[graceful granite]

guys hey, is this good stats for fury? (runes, potion, food there)

[olive wraith]

Is that what your top gear says to equip

[graceful granite]

yep

[olive wraith]

Then you’re good

[graceful granite]

other items max improve +- 0.1%

[final birch]

Look at moe so ye its fine

If u want to truly minmax just run a sim few times

[graceful granite]

i runned 3-4 times ;D

[final birch]

Ye

[graceful granite]

bis gear - low m+ dps, what can be a problem?

[wet notch]

I said that wrong. My best gear is equipped. I just wanna see what I SHOULD be roughly pullying in m+

[graceful granite]

i mean

[final birch]

Rotation

xD

[wet notch]

do i do 5 bosses for 5 minutes?

in the sim

[olive wraith]

That’s impossible to predict

[final birch]

Then again what u consider low, might also be tank issue to an extent

[olive wraith]

Too many variables

[graceful granite]

do i need to use whrillwind by cooldown?

[gilded pawn]

No nothing is accurate

If you want to see numbers

[wet notch]

yea i just wanna see numbers

[gilded pawn]

Because every dungeon is different

[final birch]

Im no fury expert in general so I’m not the best person to ask fury q’s but yes in aoe your ww stacks have to be up 24/7

[graceful granite]

ty much

was excited looking avg dmg warriors 26-27 m+

[wet notch]

I just wanna see numbers. thats all.

[graceful granite]

had no idea how to explain low dmg logs ;D

[final birch]

Keep in mind that high keys also mean big pulls

[gilded pawn]

Skill issue

That’s it

[final birch]

If youre a +20 player likely you wont see those pulls

[gilded pawn]

Practice rotation

[graceful granite]

i do much

[sullen dove]

ya pretty much whirlwind on cooldown with storm of swords cd basically perfectly aligns with consuming all your stacks

[gilded pawn]

And yeah m+ dps is almost completely dictated by tanks

[final birch]

And also m+ dps is just… super incosistent

Because there are soo many factors

[graceful granite]

how do people get this on 2nd place dmg?

[oblique trail]

by using slaughtering strikes most likely

[graceful granite]

game is so hard

xd

[oblique trail]

why does this make it hard

[meager void]

yeah, ss covers for some bad play

[still swift]

ss this

[meager void]

but bloodcraze is better with more bt/bb

[oblique trail]

dn

[gilded pawn]

Changing from bloodcraze to ss is life changing

[still swift]

what does this mean?

[gilded pawn]

It’s like getting a tattoo

[oblique trail]

for your sake I'm not going to answer this question

[graceful granite]

xd

[floral bough]

Dn jokes in 2k23 smh

[oblique trail]

I'm a very immature individual if you can't tell

[spiral oasis]

that shitty boe ring sold like instantly wtf

[still swift]

why is this for my sake?

[meager void]

maturity is overrated

age aint nothing but a number

[spiral oasis]

bro what

[still swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1116052347748110356.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[floral bough]

Jail is just a place

[meager void]

no Aaliyah fans

[spiral oasis]

tf does that mean

[meager void]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaliyah

[floral bough]

this bring back memories

[spiral oasis]

they died like 20 days after i was born idk

[meager void]

feeling older by the second

[spiral oasis]

[eternal sundial]

they usually end up super close for me and rarely ramp ahead in more st keys

but in weeklies OF usually way higher

[tardy lark]

shaman shows up with healer trinkets, doesnt press lust outside of boss pulls if its ready and doesnt dispel/totem afflicted once - leaves without a word

[eternal sundial]

[final birch]

Shaman shows up, doesnt press lust even once in a key

[tardy lark]

another +20 in the bag

[final birch]

Leaves

Fall 19 in a nutshell

Forgot to mention ignores 4 people calling for lust*

[eternal sundial]

just saw a guy with a r2 mainstat gem but lego

bro my orb did kicks cuz i had threat

good item frfr

[molten relic]

Thanks for carry I guess

[tardy lark]

482 ilvl btw

[eternal sundial]

tbf id also just ak a run like that

[oblique trail]

Just had a key with 100% uptime of afflicted debuff

[eternal sundial]

spec dispell bongzi cmon man

[oblique trail]

yeah one sec gotta level a new class first

[eternal sundial]

banezidh surelx

[oblique trail]

yeah that shit class can't do anything against afflicted either

[eternal sundial]

cage it surely right week

@oblique trailur dh was called banzaidh right

[oblique trail]

benzaidh

[covert blaze]

Incorporeal week into afflicted week is just evil

[oblique trail]

at least incorp I can do something against

afflicted I'm at the mercy of random healer nr. 584

[north geyser]

how frequently do you guys have "dead" GCDs where you have less than 80 rage, no sudden death, and whirlwind and slam are both on CD? I feel like I'm doing something wrong but I'm not sure

[oblique trail]

In M+ it happens a few times

But in raid very rarely

[eternal sundial]

especially with wft turbo rarely

[oblique trail]

Maybe once every few fights or so

One thing you can optimise is if you're above 80+ rage and got BT ready, use BT first if it wont overcap you, then Rampage

[north geyser]

it happens to me multiple times per fight but maybe i'm just bad at the game then lmao

[covert blaze]

Very rare

[eternal sundial]

bt before ramp if enraged

[oblique trail]

If you aren't already, practice doing BT - X - BT - X - BT

[eternal sundial]

if it wont overcap u

[oblique trail]

X being any other ability

[north geyser]

bt/bb before ramp is a good shout i will pay more attention to that, although isn't it slightly random the amount of rage it gives? or maybe that's just autos with windfury

[oblique trail]

It gives 8 rage if no crit, 12 rage if it crits

since crits apply gushing wound

Ofc double that if you're in Reck

[trim cape]

Should I even have thunder clap on my bars

[oblique trail]

you shouldn't have it to begin with as Fury

[trim cape]

that's what i thought

[frosty scroll]

does any1 have the femboy vs chad video with music, got posted a while ago in here, i cant find it

[eternal sundial]

just check what yuzu posted last monthg

[frosty scroll]

i found it, dear lord yes

[gilded pawn]

Barely but yes

[radiant coyote]

Yes

[fringe flame]

When BT is on CD and you don't have rage for Rampage or and CDs available.

[lost egret]

its a better global than whirlwind?

[radiant coyote]

Are you using annihilator yet?

[lost egret]

cus im using whirlwind

[fringe flame]

Well if you have 4 piece, you should be using the build that gives both Slam and WW a CD

[lost egret]

yes im using annihilator

and uh

idk im using m+ spec atm

lul

[radiant coyote]

For ST yes

[lost egret]

alright

[toxic grove]

do we trust sims with augury ?

[past pivot]

Yes. @toxic grove It's BIS for ST and MT. An LFR Augury should be slightly better than most 483 trinkets and better than some 489 ones.

[fringe flame]

Slam also gives you 10 rage

[lost egret]

ya i saw

all good, added it to wa

:D

[frosty spade]

Best Stats for Fury in Raid?

[grave kiln]

raidbots.com

/topgear

[past pivot]

It depends on your gear. Sim

[oblique trail]

Knowing this wont tell us anything

[devout totem]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/simulationcraft

[past pivot]

That means nothing. Sim it in raidbots

[clever belfry]

gib lfr wep tmog

[past pivot]

lfr tmog goes hard

[unreal onyx]

just loot it

[rigid stirrup]

what a read

[devout totem]

inb4 "higher M+ scene" for op is 18-20

[rigid stirrup]

problem with warriors imo is that they're always good but never great

[acoustic furnace]

Not even that we just need to bring something more to keys

[rigid stirrup]

yeah that's why we aren't great

[next canopy]

I was just going to ask how m+ fury looking rn. Haven’t logged in weeks.

[rigid stirrup]

I mean i'm sitting at 3.25k

and as far as survivability and damage you don't get blown the fuck out unless its a DH or rouge

[next canopy]

Shout out to the Fury Discord OG’s

[acoustic furnace]

Yeah fury is solid in keys as long as you have others with you that don't mind having to handle affix's

[rigid stirrup]

past two weeks are worst for warriors because incorp and aff are anti warrior affixes

[coarse epoch]

just let stormbold handle affix and we gucci

[acoustic furnace]

We can deal w base mechanics but add incorp or inflicted and we fall appart lol

apart

afflicted

idfk english is hard

[rigid stirrup]

even i'd argue for keys like throne of tides having a warrior will always be a net positive just due to the sheer amount of spell reflects

[acoustic furnace]

Nothing brings me more joy than reflecting wracking pain

Yazma can suck my nuts hate that bitch no idea how AD is my highest key

[devout totem]

last boss on dht too

reflecting nightmare bolt is always funny

[coarse epoch]

getting the flameshock predict is too good

[acoustic furnace]

dht is extra fun as a nelf warrior bc you can reflect nightmare bolt and then meld Feed on the weak or whatever it's called

[rigid stirrup]

flameshock reflect is biss

you legit shave off 4-5% everytime it refelcts

and get infinite heal through the duration

[violet condor]

can you link or dm me the rest of that

[rigid stirrup]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/18u8dy3/warrior_is_in_a_genuinely_horrible_place/

[sly sky]

was a good lauch

laugh

[humble plover]

Oh I saw that this morning haha

[rigid stirrup]

its a good read if you want a laugh

[humble plover]

Got my laugh. Left my 2 cents

[olive wraith]

Warriors are so bad

Buff

[summer quail]

the defensive part is too funny

[olive wraith]

Ya lol

Tankiest dps