fury

[oblique trail]

Will forever remember this

[red yew]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

I almost killed whole raid once by activating Scars perfectly aligned with amogus phase starts

Managed to leap out in time but ngl I wish I hadn't

[south kayak]

They can't just give us a normal trinket that isn't split

has to be some bullshit like scars

or rng from gavel

@red yew do you have axe

[south kayak]

should have done it

[red yew]

I don't have sub

@dire badge

[south kayak]

Damn

why?

[dire badge]

damn so real

[red yew]

Game poop

[south kayak]

idk about that

[dire badge]

less wow time = more manga time

[south kayak]

game has been at it's best in a long time

[dire badge]

[south kayak]

but understandable

[red yew]

Need to do too much m+ and shit I cba having a part time job that only pays in tiny amounts of dopamine

I just cba playing if I don't raid

[eternal sundial]

Wrong

[red yew]

And raiding is such an enormous commitment

Would just rather do anything else

[eternal sundial]

Prep ur 8th char for er dlc

Surely this year

[red yew]

Np tho my guild is owning without me

[red yew]

Only 2 days left of year idk man..

[south kayak]

owning more than usual

[eternal sundial]

Veryalive

[south kayak]

[dire badge]

we’re all back for war within playing single player delves don’t worry

[sly zenith]

Another day no sword

[dire badge]

next week

[red yew]

Veryalive legit loot hacking

[south kayak]

another day no axe

[red yew]

He got our first jaithys, first gavel, and first ashk

[eternal sundial]

Lego tho?

[red yew]

Watch him get first leggo too

[dire badge]

ok ban that guy

[red yew]

If he didn't roll so good I wouldn't have been stuck all of SoD without jaith..

[dire badge]

only ever saw one drop and it went to hpal

personal loot is so epic

[red yew]

Good choice tbh

[dire badge]

yeah he was a blaster

[south kayak]

Reverie would have gotten axe first

[red yew]

Yeah our first ashk went to hpala's vault actually

[clever path]

imagine if it was group loot

guild dramas 24/7

[dire badge]

I’d still vote for him he was a cool dude

[clever path]

over 5% dps

[red yew]

Bro I have never been lucky with gear a single tier except for season 4 SL 💀

[south kayak]

it would have been different this time

[dire badge]

give us dinar back blizzard

[south kayak]

well, they are lmao

in season 4

[dire badge]

yeah in a real season

[south kayak]

buy axe

[dire badge]

baby season for babies

and no cool trinket like scars to game around

slands s4 > dlands s4

[south kayak]

i wonder hwo tier is gonna work in season 4

since u have tier from each raid

[dire badge]

there was tier last season 4

[south kayak]

yeah but it was only on season 3

each season so far in DF had a tier set

[dire badge]

prob just have to catalyze it or you can run any of all 3

[red yew]

That's what I said every tier..

[south kayak]

use aberrus tier for m+

and this one for raid

[wild mural]

im gonna run season 1 tier and theres nothing you can do to stop me

[red yew]

Broooooooo we can finally wear 2x overtuned stat sticks tho!!!!!!!

Icon + OCE

[fading geode]

Anyone did the lego orb thingie as a party?

[wild mural]

beacon enjoyers

[south kayak]

I'm not gonna try to

[covert blaze]

Imagine playing a fated season

[red yew]

Beacon got nerfed tho..

[wild mural]

dont care

[south kayak]

i forgot

[red yew]

Idk I loved fated in SL

[south kayak]

can warriors use aoe trinket from the lady in incanrates

[red yew]

Common SyiW

[south kayak]

I forgot it's name

[wild mural]

boon?

yeah we can use that

[south kayak]

yes

[covert blaze]

Dathea?

[south kayak]

bis for m+ for sure

[red yew]

BiS for speedrun dying

[fading sky]

lol

[red yew]

(Unless you're rogue)

[fading sky]

it gives arms another bladestorm 😄

[wild mural]

10 seconds of being rooted

sure

bis

[fading sky]

i mean Fury can live !

[red yew]

Yippeee I love being afk channeling

[fading sky]

we press defensives and go ham ?

[south kayak]

you're not afk

you can press buttons during it

[fading sky]

u still use abilities r

thats why its good

[red yew]

Oh I see I see

[fading sky]

wait so can a arms warrior Bladestorm it ?

so he can move

[red yew]

BS + Boon

[covert blaze]

Boon during smolderon intermission

[red yew]

[fading sky]

or does the abilty go away ?

[red yew]

Doubt you can move

[fading sky]

i mean just give us the trinket from myth sark

i cant remember name

[south kayak]

yes he can

i remember

[wild mural]

beacon

[fading sky]

ye or the one from vault

[south kayak]

beacon was nerfed tho

[wild mural]

got mine ready

[red yew]

Sounds like that'd be way too good tho, nobody talked about it here in S1 iirc

[covert blaze]

Grieftorch good?

[fading sky]

[Manic Grieftorch]

with the amount of versa we have

[red yew]

Grieftorch dogshit for us

[fading sky]

its gotta be kindda decent now no?

[south kayak]

I remember for sure you could move in BS when u have it on

[fading sky]

it was bad in season 1 coz we didnt have versa

[red yew]

Doubt

Unless people are chain dying

[covert blaze]

I didn't play s1

[red yew]

Yeah but versa also improves other trinkets too

[south kayak]

oh god i forgot about grieftorch, I never got it in season 1 on my rogue

now i can just buy it in season 4

pog

[red yew]

I just remember grieftorch being subpar for both arms and fury in s1

[south kayak]

unless it's not bis

[red yew]

Compared to other options

[dire badge]

grief only good if you have someone announce resets

[fading sky]

Reverie it only improves on dmg trinket though ?

vs

stat gains

i presume thats why rezans and augery has so much value in fury

[forest owl]

How come fury is dropping on wclogs? We just not got many axes yet to affect logs or did the buffs to others just negate anything we gained from axe

[fading sky]

m8

because mages

devos is being played a bit now tswift killers

[covert blaze]

What about fated devour?

[south kayak]

tbh grief looks good, pretty much the same animation as DoS in legion but red instead of purple

[fading sky]

also fury is very good at prog

[dire badge]

imagine opener channel torch > channel axe > channel puzzlebox > rotation

[fading sky]

but in reclear its nothing special i recekon

[dire badge]

💀

[south kayak]

[fading sky]

maid WE CAN MAKE IT ! 😄

[wild mural]

nononono

[red yew]

Yeah but my point is Grieftorch is unlikely to even be the best flat damage trinket

[fading sky]

it was fackin good though ?:D

[south kayak]

puzzlebox isn't gonna be a thing tho

[wild mural]

surely we dont take puzzle box in s4

[dire badge]

oh yeah

[red yew]

No?

[south kayak]

we don't

since it's not gonna be in m+

[fading sky]

mirror b4 puzzle ?

[south kayak]

it's gonna be different dungeons

as usual

[fading sky]

its all df dungeons

i thought

[covert blaze]

Well we don't know which dungeons

[south kayak]

no it wasn't like that in SL

[wild mural]

I read somewhere its all DF dungeons

[covert blaze]

Tinfoil

[wild mural]

but guess we wait and see

[red yew]

Grieftorch was not top tier unless you had people die at good timings

[dire badge]

cope about it copers

[wild mural]

in SL they had all the same dungeons for 3 seasons

[covert blaze]

I would rope before doing nokhud offensive one more

[fading sky]

i was almost certain blizzy had announced that

[south kayak]

LET FLY

[wild mural]

wait no sorry they added tazavesh in s3

[wild mural]

LET FLY

[covert blaze]

LET FLY

[fading sky]

i mean theres some fun dungeons ngl

[dire badge]

still the same ones they just added 2

[wild mural]

yep

i was being sarcastic

I'll remember the /s nex ttime

[covert blaze]

only good thing about that dungeon was the voiceover for first boss

[dire badge]

alright that’s a blocked message

for fooling me

[wild mural]

Oh no whatever will I do /s

[dire badge]

[wild mural]

see I remembered it this time, so you'd know

Im glad I could perform this community service for you

[covert blaze]

Azure vault too?

[wild mural]

rope rope rope rope rope

[dire badge]

who’s excited for spider guy raid boss?

[covert blaze]

I'm not touching next season with a laser pointer if that shit comes back

[wild mural]

im never playing that dungeon again

[dire badge]

didn’t skips still work?

[south kayak]

btw

isn't boon uncapped?

it's not split either

[wild mural]

spider guy?

[covert blaze]

Sennarth

[dire badge]

you want me to remember a boss name from 10.0?

[red yew]

Pretty sure ye

[covert blaze]

I do I'm a fucking loser

[wild mural]

you mean the boss I got r1 boss damage on multiple times

yeah if you said that I'd know what you meant

[dire badge]

if I still played I prob would

[south kayak]

yeah it's uncapped

[red yew]

Sennarth was my first PI abused r1

[dire badge]

dirty dog

[red yew]

But not the last

[covert blaze]

[dire badge]

Andy should have been my abuse PI rank 1

[wild mural]

Big brood IK

[south kayak]

what's with your diurna parsae

[dire badge]

Dam to bosses 💀

[red yew]

Bro it was so funny because no other Arms got PI on it except me so I was like 4-6k ahead of rank 2 parse for weeks

[wild mural]

add grp

[red yew]

Show hps parses

[south kayak]

damage to bosses on fury

[red yew]

😡

[south kayak]

[red yew]

Syi kinda ethical ngl

[red yew]

HOOOOOOLY

[wild mural]

i am not you take that back

[covert blaze]

HOOLY

[red yew]

Stfu you have 2x rank 1 boss dmg parses

Too ethical

[covert blaze]

Canhas junior

[dire badge]

Sennarth was only fun cause my guild kinda sucked ass at it so I would get 3 PIs chained when execute started

[wild mural]

running pure ST on a boss with adds is ethical

[red yew]

🤤

[covert blaze]

Isn't terros st

[dire badge]

this is what people who can’t pad good say

[wild mural]

yes

[red yew]

Ye but we don't talk about that

[south kayak]

pad on dathea

[wild mural]

I can't pad

[dire badge]

I respect that

[red yew]

Me

[dire badge]

arms player I know

[south kayak]

arms needs rework

[dire badge]

arms needs god

[red yew]

^

[red yew]

Multiple gods tbh

[wild mural]

I fell off

[dire badge]

sorry I left and took all my moaning about arms with me 🫡

[red yew]

💀

[wild mural]

warrior needs god

[south kayak]

getting rank 5 on council is actually pretty good

[dire badge]

fury not my problem tho

[south kayak]

lmao

[wild mural]

my first mythic pink

🫡

[red yew]

[south kayak]

i still don't have a mythic pink

i killed gnarlroot yday

94 parse

[dire badge]

next week

[south kayak]

(rogue)

[dire badge]

just like axe

[red yew]

I think my first pink on mythic was Sivarra or Radiance

[wild mural]

next week for sure

[south kayak]

fuck axe

im main yellow

[wild mural]

actually I maybe misinforming you

[south kayak]

wtf some bitch got higher and i lost one parse point

[wild mural]

Oh, Im not

[south kayak]

this is a scam

not locked in

[covert blaze]

Maut for me

[wild mural]

this was my first heroic pink

[south kayak]

lmao

[covert blaze]

[violet trail]

I like how the rest is just mostly BLUE

[wild mural]

Im so good at the game

[south kayak]

found this

i was a casual in legion

[covert blaze]

Blue average for the boss too

[wild mural]

I fell off

[covert blaze]

Giga fluke

[wild mural]

yeah everyone went full ST

and I just giga padded

I had a better avg in mythic

[covert blaze]

[covert blaze]

Legion numbers are so funny

[south kayak]

my first mythic tier ever

big improvement

ignore zaqul

[wild mural]

hfc was my first mythic tier

[red yew]

[wild mural]

and I got CE

and then didnt get a 2nd CE till aberrus

[red yew]

Had a surprisingly banger first tier

In EP

[clever belfry]

swagcool

[south kayak]

i forgot if i ever played hc or normal in legion

[covert blaze]

Og purp

[south kayak]

bfa dh

99% external damage spec

[wild mural]

wanna see the best dh you've ever seen

[red yew]

Wait nvm I lied I never got 99 on sivara or radiance

Only on behemoth

[clever belfry]

imagine ur first tier not lookin like this

smh!

[red yew]

[south kayak]

damn i did not raid in legion at all

[wild mural]

🤓

My BRF/HM tier looked like that we just didnt log

[red yew]

Probably outparsed by Asmon on Star Augur...

[wild mural]

[covert blaze]

External damage you say?

[clever belfry]

not sure, that parse was actually really good

[red yew]

Iirc he had rank 1 global for a while

[clever belfry]

maybe this is my "best" tier tho

[red yew]

Then lost it to some affli locks

[clever belfry]

and frost mages

100%

[red yew]

Yeee

[wild mural]

Vault was my best tier

and I didn't get CE

[red yew]

Tragic to have mixed specs so allstars got fucked tho

[covert blaze]

Ander too gifted

[clever belfry]

just private logs

thats why allstar is fucked 👍

[red yew]

Oh I see

[wild mural]

[clever belfry]

no just autism and many gaming hour

[red yew]

Right right

[wild mural]

hey i have both of those and Im still ass

what happenedf

[clever belfry]

noober

[wild mural]

surely I get rank 1 every boss cause I run double SFP

[covert blaze]

Same

[clever belfry]

i run 0 shadowflame

😎

[wild mural]

[covert blaze]

Anda runs 10000 mastery spec

[wild mural]

silken lining gaming

[red yew]

10/10/70/10

[clever belfry]

hey my warr is pretty geared

its like 484.8 with augury and brand

but no mythic wep

[wild mural]

wheres my augury

[covert blaze]

Better than me

My augury is lfr

[clever belfry]

ye i got 489 one from vault

[oblique trail]

[clever belfry]

[wild mural]

[covert blaze]

fk u

[clever belfry]

no fk u

[covert blaze]

:ragey:

[wild mural]

:angy:

[covert blaze]

Can't believe this discord doesn't have ragey

[clever belfry]

just request it or

[oblique trail]

[clever belfry]

dont u have nitro booster channel even

[wild mural]

giveth me angy

[wild mural]

no

[clever belfry]

wait was that deleted

[covert blaze]

I don't

[eternal sundial]

no

[covert blaze]

I don't have your clout

[clever belfry]

love being an internet pico celeb

[oblique trail]

Just tag Vil or Late

They love being tagged for emote requests

[clever belfry]

thats how i got mine added

just tagged vil real

[wild mural]

im sure you love being a skyhold celebrity

how do u feel

[clever belfry]

bad

generally

[oblique trail]

being a skyhold celeb

worst fate

[wild mural]

what a vibe

[clever belfry]

the worst timeline

[wild mural]

this is the worst timeline

[covert blaze]

[clever belfry]

tbh i may be a pico celeb here
but im a micro celeb when it comes to boomer m+ knowers

insane value

[covert blaze]

Anda raiderio article

[clever belfry]

deep lore

[ebon chasm]

Got the leggo....went into m+ the on use got me killed

[clever belfry]

raiderio article...

[oblique trail]

Oly Anda's celeb value globally is at least 10^-9

[wild mural]

[clever belfry]

its not longer hotlinked on my page

it was removed in like 10.1.5 along the other spotlights...

had a special banner right here..

[oblique trail]

love Team Name

[covert blaze]

ggs only

[clever belfry]

Team Name

with lepan igloo kuri and miguel

[eternal sundial]

igloo good name

[calm mantle]

Are you guys all running sophic on weapon? My sims have me running Wafting and burning

[forest owl]

Are there many people with axe yet? Theres no real way to gauge that is there?

Except just manually check logs

[balmy shore]

i run double wafting on my main and double earthen on my alt warrior

[clever belfry]

mirroring holy moly

[covert blaze]

I sim double wafting

[balmy shore]

yea i accidentally geared a second warrior oopsie

it just hit 482

[covert void]

Some yeah, but you'll find the ones who get it mention it. Many, many people don't have it. I haven't even seen one drop in like 5/6 hc kills.

[clever belfry]

whoops!

[balmy shore]

teehee

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[covert void]

Not seeing many go second ring for crafted, seen some go into frostfire legs though, any of you gone that way?

[wild mural]

time to gear 2nd warrior

giga

[covert blaze]

Demonic mog

[balmy shore]

my god

[clever belfry]

the boots and shoulders are complete ass yep

[unreal onyx]

can't wait for that lady to have the leggo before me

[thorny peak]

I thought it was a pic from classic till I saw the ilvl

[red yew]

Fyralath my favorite classic wep

[serene kraken]

Do allied wristguards sim with the maxed out versa?

[clever belfry]

yes

[serene kraken]

So it's better for me to craft boots at this point?

[clever belfry]

pretty likely for SF to perform better on ST

[unreal onyx]

2x SF is better in ST by a lil bit

but vers is better in aoe

[serene kraken]

How do I run multi target on gear compare

[unreal onyx]

select more than 1 target

[serene kraken]

nvm found it

havent simed for years

if ur simming for m+ how many targets should u do

5+?

[unreal onyx]

you sim 1T 5min

m+ sims can't really be accurate since there are so many variables

[wild mural]

yessir

[robust widget]

wait didnt you say you'd get it yesterday

[unreal onyx]

we didn't do hc skip and releared myth

tomorrow surely

[robust widget]

[calm mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[sullen dove]

guys… I actually dreamed I got the axe from a random mythic boss

what the fuck.. it felt so real

[summer quail]

it was rasz axe from fated

[unreal onyx]

can't wait to be able to buy ashkandur and fyralath in s4

aswell as augury

ez 3 dinars

[summer quail]

i swear anvil better not be bis in fated season, trinket feels like ass

[willow cradle]

I doubt it would be better then Augery, but like even then in raid its almost entirely passive, you legit just bind it to RB

[summer quail]

binding it to things can bug things out, thankfully we're not playing it. i also doubt it will be bis tho

[unreal onyx]

signet will 100% outsim it in ST

I would guess

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wpTnFYtPYFiLd37zE6fnk3

lol it doesn't

ggwp

[dry fable]

This has probably been asked a lot of times but do the Greater Embers from Fyrakk on LFR and Normal influence the chance to get the legendary on Heroic?

[balmy shore]

did lego drop in fated last xpac idr

[unreal onyx]

uhhhh

I think hunters were able to buy the bow with dinars

[balmy shore]

o

[unreal onyx]

no, and you have the same odds on leggo if you kill heroic as if you are killing lfr into nm into heroic

so only killing it in heroic every week is the easiest way

[dry fable]

alright cheers

[balmy shore]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/raids/amirdrassil-the-dreams-hope/fyralath-legendary-weapon

Defeating Fyrakk on any difficulty has a chance to drop Fyr'alath the Dreamrender as personal push loot with higher difficulties having a significantly increased drop chance. Defeating Fyrakk on any difficulty automatically includes the drop chance of all lower difficulties.

[sullen dove]

[summer quail]

[still swift]

I thought everyone in fury discord would have it by now lol got mine first normal kill after unlock what's so difficult

[dry fable]

yeah but it doesnt specify there whether the greater embers do anything from lower difficulties

[sullen dove]

[unreal onyx]

the greater embers are only active on the next reset anyway

[tulip swallow]

I didn't get a greater ember this week

[still swift]

they will go into next week's chance but you can imagine it being like a cake and eating one piece leaves less for the next biter

[balmy shore]

rip i guess that needs to be added i feel like someone asks it once a day

[unreal onyx]

so you got leggo

[unreal onyx]

more than once

leggo questions are like 4-5 times per day

[still swift]

hojr

hour

[unreal onyx]

we need archi to make a quick leggo faq about the aquisition

and pin it

[still swift]

difficult to do when you don't have official confirmation

[unreal onyx]

it would only be like

kill fyrakk on the highest difficulty possible for you every week and you have your optimal odds

that sentence answers like 70% of the questions in here for the last month

[past pivot]

People don't read pins

[still swift]

the average Andy can't guess that getting an ember from lfr wouldn't affect your chances of going to normal next and trying there and then going up again to heroic for two blp'd up chances

cuz logically that would possibly work

with no confirmation of it only working the next reset

[copper folio]

In aoe, do we use mirror/might of the ocean with inital odyns fury or with avatar?

[summer quail]

initial

[copper folio]

ty :D

[molten relic]

?

If u do heroic first, you won’t get greaters from lower ones

And based on what blizzard has said- that blp and chances are cumulative and running ur highest difficulty grants u all the chance, doing lfr then normal then heroic is the same as just doing heroic

[acoustic furnace]

Welp. Woyer is now geared enough to be a raid logger.

What class should I play next and why is it Outlaw Rogue?

[past pivot]

fotm-chaser

[red berry]

doing lfr normal then heroic gave me three greaters

so next week surely

[acoustic furnace]

I literally geared warrior to 485 before touching a meta class how am I a fotm chaser

[past pivot]

outlaw rogue

[acoustic furnace]

I like pirates

[red berry]

if you’re gonna go meta go all the way roll DH

[acoustic furnace]

Nah fuck that DH is trash

[subtle lagoon]

Don't greaters have the difficulty in their tooltip now? and a heroic one is equivalent to all the previous difficulties? Blizzard should be more clear about this shit idk why they're so cryptic

[red berry]

tbh the play style is fun to play but so is outlaw

[proud crown]

nah outlaw having to play around vanish and shadowdance for dps is cringe

[grand plank]

I did lower difficulties a few weeks before I read about all chances being cumulative in the higher difficulties 🫠

[past pivot]

Chances are embers do nothing. You get the blp on kill. The embers are just there as a particpation trophy.

[subtle lagoon]

Chances are this whole game is a waste of time

[proud crown]

[south kayak]

To some it is, to some it isn’t

[analog charm]

does leggo scale from avatar or benefit from mastery or anythign like that

[unreal onyx]

not how it works

doing only heroic will give you the same odds as doing lfr into nm into hero

[ember apex]

that is how it works i have the legendary and thats exactly what i was doing

[acoustic furnace]

Correlation does not equal causation

[ember apex]

you're correct

let me provide evidence

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/illidan/carlo

[past pivot]

That's not evidence. That's making an assumption.

[ember apex]

im allowed to do that

[fickle bluff]

there must be something wrong if carlo has it

[ember apex]

dw i had my worst raid performance of my entire life last night as punishment for getting it

wiped my poor guild like 5x on smolderon

[past pivot]

People riding on the short bus have prio

[ember apex]

i had ~150 amirdrassil boss kills before i got it

incl fyrakk every week on heroic

[past pivot]

which again means nothing on its own. It's still RNG.

[ember apex]

it is RNG but u gotta put in the work

to increase RNG in ur favor

i wonder if i can transmog that axe on a lvl 1 character

that'd be poggers

[summer quail]

how many bosses you've killed is irrelevant. how many lessers you got is a different thing

[ember apex]

u get lessers from killing bosses professor sausage

i mean u guys do what u want

i got my leggo so im poggin' out

[summer quail]

no shit, but it's rng getting lessers. they are not guaranteed

[subtle lagoon]

Doesn't matter it's all rng whether you have a 1% to a 2% chance of getting the weapon, this whole game is rng. Your effort is not rewarded.

[cosmic lance]

This is like watching a lottery winner insist their numbers are the special numbers

[ember apex]

no b/c that's gamba

i put in the work

[frozen lake]

lmao

[summer quail]

sure buddy

[ember apex]

theres another plate dps*** in my guild who hasnt been doing heroic

and he doesnt have axe

[subtle lagoon]

and there's a guy that got it week 1 or 2, which means he hasn't been killing bosses a whole lot.

[ember apex]

the 2 ppl who got it week 2 are RWF raiders and no one got it week 1

ur just making stuff up to try to prove me wrong

[cosmic lance]

This could literally be a case study on self-serving bias

[subtle lagoon]

I'm not making shit up but enjoy your anecdotal evidence

[ember apex]

who got it week 1

like link a post

this didnt happen. am i crazy how did i miss someone getting axe week 1 of amirdrassil

[frozen lake]

He means first week it was available in non mythic

[molten relic]

The 424 boosted guy who looted it off lfr

Really put in work

[subtle lagoon]

Week 2 or 3 at most after mythic kill

[ember apex]

first axe(s) were from mythic which was week 2 and the 2 ppl who got it were literally RWF raiders

ok

thats not what u said originaly

[subtle lagoon]

Like, congrats on getting the legendary but you don't have to be a dick about it.

[ember apex]

now that statement is true + accurate

im not being a dick im tryna help other ppl get it

[molten relic]

Just a bad troll

Is all

[ember apex]

its not even a troll

[terse roost]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-enjoy-i-like-nom-nom-gif-11040065238845078056

[ember apex]

these are my real boss kill numbers

[fickle bluff]

first time experiencing carlo?

[ember apex]

im not even trolling

[analog charm]

I think axe has a relatively high drop rate compared to evoker. I think we will see a lot more ppl geting it over the next 2-3 weeks. My guild had 2 ppl get it in the same kill, and 2 more got it on alts later in the week

[waxen fjord]

Carlo forgot to take his meds, stop letting him bait u

[ember apex]

alright sick

[spiral oasis]

Y'all got mmo mouse recommendations?

[summer quail]

he's a special lad

[past pivot]

Special ed

[ember apex]

swiftpoint Z mouse

[analog charm]

razer naga has been my homie for years

[frozen lake]

I mean he did increase his chances by putting in the work

Just gotta roll high at the end of the day also

[ember apex]

💯

[spiral oasis]

That thing looks fucking stupid

[summer quail]

it's okay tho, we take carlo over spritti and abudhabi any day

[fickle bluff]

and K

[spiral oasis]

I've been using the Rog spatha but that thing is too fucking heavy!!

[analog charm]

idk why but this just made me chuckle

[summer quail]

true, i forgot about K

[ember apex]

the ergonomics on it work really well. theres buttons where it feels natural to press them

[analog charm]

Just like hey who has mouse recs, and someone nicely recommends what they use only for it to be destroyed hahaha

[ember apex]

it's b/c its me

[fickle bluff]

it looks like its missing the left and right click plates

[ember apex]

there's left/right click plates and theres also deep clicks on certain buttons

i used to use traditional mmo mouses

but i like this one

also that's on max's about i just remembered

on twitch

[astral wraith]

is there a way to macro Reck, Odyn's Fury and Roar together?

[ember apex]

no b/c roar and OF are on the same GCD

[astral wraith]

Gotcha, I was trying to figure out if I could make a macro then spam press it to make them go off

ty

[spiral oasis]

U can do that with a cast sequence

[past pivot]

But it's not a good idea to do so

[spiral oasis]

Also has to be something I can buy on amazon

I got a $200 amazon card from work so I'm using it as an excuse to swap out my old mouse.

[vagrant warren]

Not gonna lie, I saw "OF" and was like: shit is that what us warriors are having to do to get into groups these days...I better get some good feet pics

[spiral oasis]

Odyn fans

I'm a fan of odyn

[left perch]

I do know someone did 100 ilvl parse with it tho

[astral wraith]

why would it not be a good idea?

[modest condor]

the fact that carlo is not trolling makes it even worse

because that means he genuinely believes what he's saying

[ember apex]

what specifically

i dont get it

whats crazy for me to believe

the boss kill thing?

[modest condor]

how you keep going on about how many bosses you have killed

[abstract flower]

I dont really raid im mainly m+ gamer, but I see ppl take spear for raiding, do you enrage ->spear -> of or enrage -> of ->spear?

[ember apex]

yeah

that screenshot is from my raiderIO page i can link it. im dead serious

[modest condor]

enrage > of > spear

[abstract flower]

Ok ty

[ember apex]

like sometimes i joke around or whatever but like. ive actually killed ~150 bosses in amirdrassil if u count LFR 130 if you dont

[modest condor]

yeah but the fact that you have is completely irrelevant

[clever path]

Hello, I'm thinking about using my lvl 70 boost from blizz on a warrior for suuuper casual m+. I have heard fury is the first step towards carpal tunnel, but I was wondering how the flow and feel are in m+ right now? My enh sham is almost done with seasonal goals, and once he is I might mess around on my warrior to cure boredom lol

[ember apex]

that may be the case, but i have the axe and i (personally) (in my head) think that the # of boss kills and therefore BLP tokens looted, mattered

[spiral oasis]

Going from enhance shaman to fury warrior ur gonna be like "wow is it this easy?" Yeah.

[abstract flower]

ZUG ZUG fun. You will feel like a god during aoe 🙂

[ember apex]

u could be 100% correct but like i personally feel like it had an effect

[modest condor]

carpal tunnel is a meme, it has high apm yes but if you get hand issues from it you have problems elsewhere.

[spiral oasis]

Uhhh warrior feels weird rn and you won't get invited to pugs for certain weeks

[ember apex]

thats the only thing im trying to say, if ppl approach it differently and their methods are successful then i have no prob w/ that

[clever path]

For sure, I figured it was meme. Enh is also semi taxing for apm, so I'm not worried about it much. Plus, I used to main rogue 🤣

[spiral oasis]

Have fun tho I love warrior

[modest condor]

how it flows is subjective i guess, if you play it right you never really have downtime, but a big part of the rotation is just pressing the same 2 buttons over and over

[left perch]

Didn’t blizzard say the entire point of lesser blp was to reward people who actually played all content not just end boss looters

[spiral oasis]

Our opener is always satisfying at least

[clever path]

Lol this week particularly. It's like auto invite on my sham with poison totem though lmal

[frank dawn]

I was in a group on my monk yesterday, all 5 of us could dispel. No one but me and the healer did

nice

[ember apex]

did they say that? i havent even heard it, i just assumed more tokens = more chance

[spiral oasis]

Yeah it's really fun how there are certain classes who can't even look at the affixes. I'd suggest finding a group that's fine with having a big dam warrior in it to avoid afk times in valdrakken

[frank dawn]

I had two dps warriors in the one run I did this week on my warrior. I thanked the healer and tank for carrying us on dispels

but yeah it's pretty impossible to pug this week as a warrior

[left perch]

I’m sure there’s still people with more boss kills than you with no axe anyway, so the point still stands: it’s an ambiguous rng bullshit system with zero transparency and it sucks

[spiral oasis]

It's kinda crazy how easy shit is on other classes it's a free week if you're not a warrior.

[ember apex]

what i do is i get the premade group filter addon and set it to:

difficulty: Mythic+
Tank: 1
Healer: 1
DPS: 0 to 2

i search +20 in the group finder box

and only apply to those groups. it reduces my afk time to like <3mins to find a group

[clever path]

Yea this week is like cake mode for me on my enh. I'm trying to get my last couple 20 portals.

[ember apex]

so that way u only spend time applying to groups that have tanks and healers already

[spiral oasis]

Ok it's never hard finding 20s but relying in pugs to do affix in 23s-25s has not felt fun

[clever path]

Yea, or run my own keys too.

[cosmic lance]

Didn't have too many issues until i started trying to get into 23/24/25 sort of keys

[ember apex]

ohhh ive only pugged like 1 or 2 keys at that level

yeah it wasnt great experience

[clever path]

I honestly plan on being super chill with warrior. (But I said that 5 years ago with enh and made it my main instantly lmao)

[ember apex]

yeah ok my comment was just directed at being ppl trying to get their weekly 20s

then yeah higher keys idk

[cosmic lance]

Most of my 24/25 keys are just from playing with people I used to play with on their alts when they aren't pushing big keys 😦

[ember apex]

anything above 20 this season is mostly me playing w/ guild and just doing the key b/c we know we'll time it and we get extra items

[clever path]

Ok, cool so no down time in the rotation for m+...cool cool. I'll do some googling on that later. Tried ret a bit ago too, and that was fun also. Any similarities there? (For those who have played both ha)

[spiral oasis]

Actually kinda tbh if you're running crusading strikes paladin

Somewhat high APM with strong burst windows and low downtime if you're doing your rotation correctly.

[vagrant warren]

You can add in the bloodlust/heroism filter to the group finder add on as well.

[spiral oasis]

You're playing annihilator this season

[graceful copper]

does dancing blades impact your chance to get a sudden death proc or nah

[spiral oasis]

And same kind of stipulation on how with ret paladins tierset, you wanna make sure you're using floor sword before throwing your hammer for the big spender ability.

You want blood bath up for the OF buff charges

[ember apex]

this tierset has been my least favorite fury warrior tierset bonus ive played

[olive wraith]

Really?

[ember apex]

i hated sepulcher too b/c that shit got me killed

[olive wraith]

But it’s so good

[ember apex]

yeah personally

my favorite was venthyr fury when you had those like mania haste procs from playing Nadjia

thrill seeker

[hardy cargo]

it would feel a lot fkn better if the cdr wasnt capped to one proc of reduction per cast and/or the empowered bt crit on all targets

imo in st it feels fine

but aoe feels like ass

[ember apex]

empowered BB cleave doesnt work

its actually broken

and we do less damage as a result

[hardy cargo]

its not broken

[ember apex]

that's why our damage is low

[hardy cargo]

its intentional

that it doesnt cleave

[ember apex]

yes it is. the one ability we buff doesnt cleave accureately

wherease before

[hardy cargo]

read the 2p

[ember apex]

everything cleaved accurately

ok sec

let me look it up

lol

[hardy cargo]

no need

I got it for ya

[ember apex]

yeah the crit

im talking

the actual damage

like lets say

its 60k hit non crit

u dont cleave the right amount

it should be 30k cleaved

its less

tho

[cosmic lance]

It's all one statement. Damage and crit is against primary target as intended

[hardy cargo]

yeah its not separate

[ember apex]

😮

ur actually right

wtf

[olive wraith]

This again

[hardy cargo]

I shouldve circled

[fickle bluff]

two carlo moments in like 20 minutes is this a world record

[hardy cargo]

just "against primary target"

[ember apex]

not even close

[olive wraith]

If it cleaved we would be broken

[ember apex]

i dont think so. the crit i c an understand not cleavin

but the damage itself cleave accurately

if we had that we would be competitive w/ DH in keys

but we arent currently

not good ones at least at comparable ilvl

there's like those random keys where u pug into a random DH thats ur ilvl and u finish above or close in overall

and ur like ok maybe im actually sick wtf

and then u queue into a good DH and u get like 30k dps overall behind

[cosmic lance]

Don't our meat cleaver strikes count as their own hits, not related to the primary target anyway? That's why they crit independently of one another etc?

[olive wraith]

We still above middle

Fury in a good spot rn

[ember apex]

yeah crit chance on cleaved WW abilities has always been independent of ur main attack critting or not

i still wished the BB dmg cleaved

crit chance can be rolled seperately

as it always has been

[olive wraith]

You do know why the damage buff doesn’t cleave right.

[ember apex]

why

the tierset text?

[tepid scroll]

I thought the last raid graph showed fury literally in the bottom 3rd or 4th of all damage done to bosses and overall damage

[olive wraith]

That’s ridiculous damage my guy

[ember apex]

yeah thats my favorite thing

[cosmic lance]

It'd ridiculous damage for the few casts you get of it

[ember apex]

look at DH damage

[olive wraith]

That’s raid and I haven’t looked at the graph.

[olive wraith]

You get it every 20 seconds

[tepid scroll]

My 481 outlaw rogue can also gap my 486 warrior in keys even using straight hekili on the outlaw

[olive wraith]

1.5mil every 20 seconds is not balanced

[ember apex]

the problem i feel is that DH is not capped at 5 targets but fury is and a good DH at same ilvl will still crush fury at 5 targets

and on top of that

[hardy cargo]

u can open logs and check the top overalls from like 25+ ish compare fury and dh and wild the dmg difference

[ember apex]

they're uncapped

[hardy cargo]

but the problem is dh is the outlier not fury

[ember apex]

havoc was already nerfed so

time to buff fury

like balacing on havoc has already occured but we didnt get our own balance patch

[olive wraith]

Cause we are fine lol

[ember apex]

thats just my take. i dont think we should lose to DH on 5 targets

at similar ilvl/gearing

[hollow hull]

this season was blessed 🙂 fingers crossed for warrior rework 10.2.5

[ember apex]

like we should be 5 target Gods

what addon is that

[hardy cargo]

grats

[clever path]

Fair enough. I'm used to that style with my sham. "Use this ability before this ability to get best dam possible"

[spiral oasis]

Is ele shaman doing well rn? I remember really enjoying them in legion.

[ember apex]

they are grasping rn

tbh

[hardy cargo]

good buddy of mine is ele sham, he gets kicked from grps bc hes not enhance

[spiral oasis]

I guess more for m+ than raid

They look fun tho

[hardy cargo]

and to preface, hes a very good ele sham lmao

[ember apex]

that's psycho

[tepid scroll]

Uncap all aoe

Let us run wild and free

[ember apex]

just fury

[hardy cargo]

based

[spiral oasis]

I mean they still have the same utilities other than wf totem right? I don't get that.

[hardy cargo]

pugs will be pugs man

[ember apex]

what other utility

are u talking about

speed totem?

[spiral oasis]

So weird considering I don't think any dps classes are particularly awful.

[hardy cargo]

cap totem, poison cleanse, tremor(if taken), hex, dispel

curse dispel

[ember apex]

oh that

yeah alright

[spiral oasis]

Multiple totems, cleanses, purge

Hex

[ember apex]

i dont think ele is in a good spot but like i wouldnt kick one from my group even if i was expecting enhance

[spiral oasis]

Yea

Like infinitely more util than us lmao

They r squishy tho if I remember

[tepid scroll]

I wish they had the mindset that good damage could make up for lack of utility in other areas

In terms of balance

But that’s a dangerous slope I guess

[ember apex]

max was saying thats the reason Shadowpriest will never be top dmg

b/c they have PI

which means their raidDPS would be insane

[still swift]

can someone get this carlo guy out of fury channel someday

[ember apex]

?

[still swift]

i look in every now and then and its always just him shitposting

its wild

[tepid scroll]

Max was saying in some recap video the other week that warrior needs love. Maybe 10.2.5? The hero talents also look fun though

[ember apex]

would u like it if someone said that about u?

[still swift]

i tend to be smart about chatting to the point where i dont get this said

so if whoever said it has valid reason sure thats great

[ember apex]

the fact that u cant answer that question directly means u know ur just being mean

for like 0 reason too

[still swift]

take it as a hint and try actually redeeming yourself instead of acting main character

[ember apex]

like ive not been a jerk to u

[restive peak]

Carlo is a staple round here, guy means well

[ember apex]

the fact that u think my egoist persona is 100 percent serious is telling. can you try to just be kind - not to me specifically but just like in general

[unreal onyx]

[ember apex]

like im half serious half joking

u do understand the concept of like sarcasm and irony and all this yeah?

[still swift]

having an acting persona in some discord that plenty of random people see you in is always a bad idea, no matter how you mean it :)

[ember apex]

theres plenty of enough consistent ppl where its totally fine

[clever path]

Is arms like WAY slower than fury. (Wondering if that's almost too slow for my ADHD brain and m+ lmao[

[olive wraith]

Yes sarcasm translates so well over text

[ember apex]

and w/ new people i give serious advice

[violet trail]

Never take what anyone says seriously.

[ember apex]

and dont give new ppl sarcastic answers

[olive wraith]

Arms isn’t that much slower afaik

[clever path]

Ty ty

[olive wraith]

You’re still gcd locked I think

For the most part

[ember apex]

and im generally nice to everyone

or i trry to be at least

[still swift]

as far as i heard they barely have big gaps anymore where they need to just auto for rage so it should be somewhat similar

[ember apex]

like u dont know how many times i got called names by soda and some his DMs i got but i was still nice to him

[hardy cargo]

arms is gcd locked, rage bar is cosmetic

[olive wraith]

Ye lol. So many SD procs

And no way to spend rage fast enough

[still swift]

class design making ur resource nonexistant

awesome

[hardy cargo]

buff slam nerf op

[olive wraith]

They’d still probably prio op

[past pivot]

Bring back spamstring with some functionality

[olive wraith]

For ms resets

[violet trail]

take hamstring of the GCD

[hardy cargo]

I mean ms resets are a talent

[clever path]

Fair enough. I might try both. Feeling some burnout with my sham...so really anything different is good. Prob smoke a bowl tonight and jam on my warrior. Lol

[olive wraith]

The ms resetting ms you mean?

[hardy cargo]

no

battlelord

is the overpower buffing talent that resets ms

[olive wraith]

Well ya it’s like mandatory

[hardy cargo]

ya but then you nerf the fuck out of op and buff slam

youd prolly only press it at x amount of rage

to prevent overcapping

[olive wraith]

That sounds worse

Ngl

[hardy cargo]

See, I really liked arms before the 10.0.5 rework

I think lots of people didnt

could also prolly just revert fervor

in my eyes something that costs resources should eb way better than anything that doesnt

[olive wraith]

Fob is kinda neat rn

[hardy cargo]

the only change from current fob is that it doesnt require 2t to proc the slam

[olive wraith]

Would you really wanna ww spam even in st

[spiral oasis]

I like jug build :)

Good prio damage, good boss damage, fatty bleeds.

[ember apex]

most juggs are running boneshatter

like 65%+

[frank dawn]

I see in some guides for other classes they mention that the accelerating sandglass oversims. Do we have any reason to think that's true for us

[still swift]

the oversimming is mostly the case for range specs

[frank dawn]

I guess that's true I've mostly seen it on those specs

oh becasue they have to be in range for the damage part to fire I guess?

[edgy widget]

Not that I'm aware of, but while it is one of the better trinkets, it's not one of the best either

[acoustic furnace]

Serpent Coil sims higher than Sandglass sims for me personally. I think both of them are kinda meh.

[edgy widget]

again, they're both two of the better trinkets, but are also greatly overshadowed by others

[acoustic furnace]

So they're meh

Placeholders really

[edgy widget]

Well no, they're two of the better trinkets

they're just not the best

[acoustic furnace]

Just be a real man and don't use trinkets at all

[noble elm]

Two stat sticks. A real man don’t need no procs

[upbeat plume]

Armor and weapons are for the weak fight as God intended, naked with your fists

[still swift]

some specs trigger it with specific abilities only, and yes, they are forced to be close.
bm hunter for example needs to press cobra shot to trigger it while being close range, type of thing. which, in many situations, not what you wanna do, so you may end up wasting value

[frank dawn]

yeah, that all makes sense. Thanks to both of you for clarifying I couldn't really think of a reason why it would sim wrong for us but wanted to make sure

someday I'll get an Augury...right

but for now, hourglass gaming

[clever belfry]

bm hunter sims assume it always hits
but u gotta be in melee to proc it

basically

[unreal onyx]

I just played the worst key of my life unironically

[molten relic]

healing seems easy- just summon pets and afk

[unreal onyx]

23 WM

literally every afflicted casted

no one stunned anything on any pack or boss

people didn't know how to play any mechanic

483 ele sham does 145k overall

[fair fjord]

If I macro recklessness and odyn's fury together, is odyn's fury guaranteed to benefit from that recklessness?

[frank dawn]

I had a healer the other day in an EVerbloom that dispelled 5 times the entire dungeon

was a great time

and not just afflicted dispels, just dispels period, and none of those 5 were on afflicted lol

[molten relic]

how does this happen with ele

I just had 34 in my wcm on my ele

dispels I mean

[lavish grove]

Healers job

[hoary locust]

guys. whats up with execute phase for fury? i mean its dps gain or damage neutral phase?

iam learning fury

[eternal sundial]

gain

[hoary locust]

alot?

[eternal sundial]

not nothing

this too ig

sim for comparison:
no exe https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3JE2mCLW53qG5ofmFrwfhr
execute https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1qnoyuPA49EDyf9JhSqAwb

[clever path]

Phil back to playing warrior??

[eternal sundial]

nah i just have full sockets on an alt

[clever path]

I probably wouldn't be surprised if that were true LOL

[warm crag]

phil noober

[eternal sundial]

spongus why isnt ur boss dead yet

[warm crag]

cause i do not have his funny axe

[eternal sundial]

sick

good stream

[clever path]

On paper the 4 set for fury looks to have good synergy with the 2 set. Is that the case in game? Lol

[frank dawn]

yes

4pc is just get your 2pc bonus 33% more often, more or less

[clever path]

Right. That's how it is for enh atm too, love it. Press the fun buttons more often: love it.

[left perch]

Wait are you unironically prog as void elf

spongo pls

[warm crag]

if you buy the the racechange and back

i dont wanna look like a dwarf the tmog looks shite

[past pivot]

Void elf is pog. Transmog discount. Great racials and best voice emotes in the game for the female velf. Good heritage armor too.

[unreal onyx]

ele was mentally challenged I feel like

he wasn't even "focused" to DPS

he had 145k overall

2700 score but I guess it was his key

[arctic lichen]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sWojh9FbibKEbyySSUqF5f

Could some1 help me with my sim, im doing mostly M+ but my dmg feels so bad

doing only 216k-250 on dungs without aug..

[hoary locust]

ty

[unreal onyx]

you mean all buffs?

almost

[hoary locust]

guys if i hate bastion spear talent and goo other route of roar. do i loose much ?

[arctic lichen]

wow O_O gotta try it out, but shouldnt i use ocean for M+ instead of rezan?

[young swan]

yeah

[past pivot]

Are you trying to optimize for raid or M+? Wasn't clear. Assumed you meant for raid. If you mean M+, disregard above.

[arctic lichen]

ye trying for M+

[past pivot]

Simming for M+ is a guessing game. I'd just use your best top gear set up them change trinkets and talents tbh.

[arctic lichen]

ok will try Thx alot m8

[unreal cape]

what UI are yall using ? i've been using the regular blizzard UI, but i want to improve my gameplay by having my important abilites, bars etc. more in the middle of the screen, so i tried out two WA profiles (Luxthos and Quazii for Warrior) but i'm going mad trying to customize them to my likings...

[eternal sundial]

I use a self built one

[young swan]

i use revvez's

modified a lil bit

[frosty heron]

naowh clean one

[young swan]

nerd

dork

dweeb

[eternal sundial]

Ye im tempted to aquire revvez one

Mine is fairly similar anyways

[young swan]

revvez ui is real nice

big fan

[eternal sundial]

I like his nameplates

[young swan]

he does have nice nameplates

[eternal sundial]

Idk if he offers other classes

[young swan]

he offers most

[eternal sundial]

Idk if i care tho

[unreal cape]

where can i get a look at revvez profile?

[warm crag]

sir ui op

[eternal sundial]

His stream has some vids from rwf

[summer quail]

i assume you can sub to his twitch to get it

[young swan]

ye

[worldly shard]

any good talent builds for farming old content?

cocaine mode

[young swan]

can go look at his vods from rwf

if u wanna see

[unreal cape]

ok i'll check that out

[eternal sundial]

His is sleek

Aui is generic but good too

[worldly shard]

i use naowhui

[young swan]

i dont like aui purely because i cant just add shit whenever i want

[worldly shard]

naowhui is better

[young swan]

lua too complex..

[eternal sundial]

I hate naowhs icon sizing

Looks ass

[worldly shard]

i have both atrocity/naowh

i did some tweaks to naowh