fury

[silent burrow]

just be out of combat when he drops

[unreal onyx]

so do superbloom

but then before last guy drops be out of combat

and then attack him again?

[left perch]

bug

[unreal onyx]

sunarthus farming impressions in here lately

[clever path]

vers wrists or another patch

up to you

vers wrists prob less damage

but more vers and vers is good

[thorny cove]

almost 2500 and still can't get into 20s this game is so fucking dogshit

[unreal onyx]

2500 is nothing for 20s

you can start complaining when you are 3k and get declined

I wouldn't take a 2500 either since dozens of 2850+ are applying at the same time

[thorny cove]

pvers are legit more toxic than pvpers it's such a joke 🤣

at least pvpers will invite you based off previous season xp

[clever path]

i mean its mostly cause

rio doesnt mean shit

[unreal onyx]

also why take 2500 if you can take 2900

[clever path]

idk i look at raid logs

[unreal onyx]

(2500 warrior on top)

[clever path]

never had issues

[unreal onyx]

you look at logs for 20s?

[clever path]

i dont do 20s

i pug them

for like 24s

had a mage

was like 2400

all 99s 100s in mythic and heroic

man was fucking cracked

[primal bane]

Listen I’m 3200 and I get denied groups at times

[covert blaze]

having expectations is not toxic

[unreal onyx]

that's why I do 18s as weekly nowadays

[unreal cape]

2.5k is low for 20s, no wonder you're not getting invited

[covert blaze]

and past pve is irrelevant to current pve

[unreal onyx]

don't need crests really anyway

and 18s are easier

[clever path]

ye but 18s dont fill your weekly

[unreal cape]

as another guy said, if you get declined for 20s at 3k, like the rest of us, then u can start complaining

[clever path]

tbf i dont need crests anymore so i can just use crests to upgrade

[unreal onyx]

they do

[clever path]

ye its 1/4

myth

so its 15 crests more

[unreal cape]

18s dont give 483 on weekly

[clever path]

they give 480

[unreal cape]

yeah

[clever path]

which is 1/4 myth

[unreal onyx]

myth track is myth track

[covert blaze]

18 is myth track still

[thorny cove]

isn't all 19s in time only like 2600-2700 ish

[covert blaze]

15 crests is irrelevant at this point in time

[unreal cape]

myth track is myth track yeah, but you need aspect crests for upgrading them

if you got more than enough, sure its no diff

[thorny cove]

so even if you timed all 19s you're still not good enough to do 20s 🤣 🤣

[unreal onyx]

I dont need aspect crests for anything anymore

only need 45 for trinket

then im done

[unreal cape]

i mean, just if you want to craft an item, its 60 aspect crests so..

[unreal onyx]

got larodar belt today

so only trinket missing and im gucci

[unreal cape]

oh shit, nice gz man

[spiral oasis]

i've already seen this episode

[unreal onyx]

well shoulders still

[unreal cape]

that man even also got an augury

damn damn

[half cargo]

The point you’re missing is there are far more qualified applicants in the queue

[unreal onyx]

I will upgrade shoulders before trinket since I already have good trinkets at 483

[unreal onyx]

leech augury

also got might in bags with myth track rezan

[spiral oasis]

can i have it

[upbeat quail]

Hey, what do you guys think about fury warrior this season?
Is it just me that finds furry warrior gameplay being so empty now, so un-intuitive.

[covert blaze]

there's better people, why would they take you

[unreal cape]

ah no worries, does your uncle work at blizz? 😄

[unreal onyx]

I wish

[unreal cape]

and give u better drop %

[unreal onyx]

you see any leggo on my char?

[unreal cape]

hmmm true

[covert blaze]

pugs always want you to be overqualified

[thorny cove]

@covert blaze that's the problem with the community is they only care about what's "better"

[covert blaze]

specially on a mediocre spec (in terms on m+ meta)

[unreal onyx]

that's just logical

why take a chance

[thorny cove]

whether it's score or even class

[covert blaze]

that is not a problem that's how it is

if you really care you push your own key

or play with friends

idk

[barren ore]

biggest problem is that warrior doesn't bring anything to the table

[clever path]

thats how it is in all games not just wow

[thorny cove]

you guys are so delusional if you don't think it's a problem 🤣

[unreal cape]

its just how things are m8

[unreal onyx]

there is quite literally nothing anyone can do

[clever path]

how would u fix it then

[barren ore]

give warriors BL

[thorny cove]

literally if you play any other MMO they are way less toxic

[clever path]

when you have 3k people signing up

[covert blaze]

i don't think you understand how pve works

[barren ore]

it would help alot

[clever path]

cause they are 10x less competitive

[covert blaze]

in a pug environment

[balmy shore]

is everyone dropping an un-enraged odyn's fury off the rip on mythic tindral

[thorny cove]

it's literally just WoW community that's like this

[unreal onyx]

it's not "toxic" to take people more qualified than you

[unreal cape]

if they have a decision to make between you, 2.5k warrior guy, and a 2.8k outlaw rogue or shaman (who can deal with affix this week), who are they gonna pick? its an easy call to make

[half cargo]

There’s an argument to be made that the entitlement is what’s toxic

[covert blaze]

there's no parse culture in other mmos like there is in wow

[clever path]

not even

maybe in 28s

[barren ore]

give warriors BL and remove DR on stuns would solve alot for warriors 😛

[unreal onyx]

imo it's not toxic to try to time a key with ease rather than taking chances at a barely qualified player

[balmy shore]

or are ppl fishing for an enrage off bt first. i can't tell which one i like better

[covert blaze]

this, lol

[thorny cove]

also 20s are not even the hardest key they are piss easy to do it's just people dont want to even put in the slightest effort so they bring people that way outgear it

[unreal onyx]

what do ppl on lorrgs do?

we'll start tindral this week too

[clever path]

isnt that logical

[half cargo]

I agree, I meant that demanding invites when there are better people around is toxic

[clever path]

tho

[half cargo]

Like either rise up or play with friends

[covert blaze]

why would you make a pug harder for you

are you new to online games

[half cargo]

Expecting strangers to gamble their time and success is weird

[unreal cape]

if they are so " piss easy " as you say, why arent you just starting your own group and time all those piss easy 20s ?

like what

[balmy shore]

i looked at three logs and 1) ripped of off the rip 2) bt first then of 3) clearly didn't get an enrage proc off their bt and then rampaged before of

so idk 💀

[unreal onyx]

[balmy shore]

i guess if they're all at the top maybe it doesn't matter

[unreal onyx]

I would say in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter

especially on prog

[covert blaze]

difference seems small enough to not matter, maaaybe

[balmy shore]

yea ig a lot of the damage is how much can u drop on roots

[storm rune]

But imagine if they were even topper

[balmy shore]

anyway

ok i will do that

[unreal cape]

i feel like there's always some1 coming in here and starting a dumb argument where you just lose braincells the longer you engage with it

[unreal onyx]

give me free io and gear pls

[thorny cove]

I don't even care about the gear lmao

[unreal cape]

give me myth track augury pls

[storm rune]

Titan's Grip should swap places with Enraged Regen

[primal bane]

20s are pretty easy as long as everyone is geared at like 480+

[covert blaze]

I should be invited to any key with no gear or experience 😡 😡 😡 😡

[balmy shore]

me on every alt i play

[thorny cove]

I just wanna play the game and not sit in lfg all day

[primal bane]

You don’t need to be 480 but like if they are it’s hard to fail

[unreal onyx]

you have your own key

[unreal cape]

@thorny cove then why arent you just doing this m8 ?

[primal bane]

Run your own key?

[covert blaze]

then do your own key/do lower keys that are within your experience and skill level

[unreal cape]

do you just chose to ignore all the solutions that are right in front of your eyes?

[covert blaze]

don't get mad if people better than you don't take you

it's just how it is

[balmy shore]

it is what it is

we're also warriors on afflicted week so

[unreal onyx]

real

[balmy shore]

shrug

[unreal cape]

honestly, it just seems like you want to join a group with much higher io players than you and want to get carried, cuz you cant be bothered to push up / run your own keys

[primal bane]

Afflict deez

[balmy shore]

nutz

[thorny cove]

it's not even that it's just annoying to do a dungeon that doesn't give me score repeatedly because it's not the right one

[covert blaze]

reroll your key

play the game

you'll get there

[primal bane]

I thought you wanted to play the game

[unreal cape]

i understand that, but it's just the way it is man, it is a GRIND

[covert blaze]

you cant play for 10 minutes and have max level gear like in pvp my guy

[primal bane]

Sounds like you want score

[unreal cape]

thats why its rewarding when you push through and reach your goal

[unreal onyx]

just buy 3k

then you can start doing weekly 20s

maybe

[thorny cove]

doing the same dungeon 5 times in a row is not "fun" LMAO

[unreal cape]

i was so fkn happy when i reached 3k for the first time this season, because it was such a grind and work to get there

[thorny cove]

you guys are sadistic af

[covert blaze]

just buy an account if you want to do the ''''hardest'''' content for free

[primal bane]

Also if you time your keys you will get a high enough key to get score wth

[unreal onyx]

depends which dungeon

[unreal cape]

do you just want everything handed to you?

[covert blaze]

what are you doing playing this game

[unreal onyx]

the tindral kill I wouldn't be too oposed to, yea

[oblique trail]

@runic pine Prot is just that broken?

[half cargo]

Wait till he finds out we do the same raid every week

[oblique trail]

Literally does the same damage as the average pug DPS I get in my keys

[thorny cove]

this is like same mentality as classic players

[unreal cape]

why would you need to do the same dungeon 5 times ? you run your key, then you'll get another dungeon. if you time your keys, you'll get higher keys and that way you'll get higher score very soon

[thorny cove]

"I had to suffer, so you have to suffer too"

[covert blaze]

we played

you want to do what we do

[runic pine]

[covert blaze]

without playing

[unreal onyx]

so I have to suffer for you to get everything handed?

[covert blaze]

kinda wild how entitled you are

[unreal onyx]

that makes sense

[runic pine]

Anytime I get asked to tank I just say "you mean 4th DPS?"

[balmy shore]

imagine playing the game

[serene charm]

so a 486 helmet with the patch would be ideal?

[chrome plover]

innit do weekly > do raid > come back next week

[serene charm]

its my lowest item

[clever path]

dont craft helmet

[serene charm]

rly

[clever path]

you can get a 489 one

[unreal cape]

idk man, maybe this game isnt for you?

[unreal onyx]

helmet is propably the worst slot to craft

[serene charm]

oh rly

hands are good?

[covert blaze]

you could have timed a better key in the time you spent here getting clowned by 5+ people at once

[clever path]

yes crafting is different this patch

feet

[unreal onyx]

cloak?

[serene charm]

cloak i got

[oblique trail]

Yeah tbf I do play with a few friends on absolute rat chars so that'd affect my overall

[clever path]

feet is prob ur best bet i

he has cloak

[oblique trail]

But it's still so stupid

[clever path]

feet prob

[runic pine]

prot kinda

[oblique trail]

I don't see any tank be anywhere close to this damage

[covert blaze]

real

[chrome plover]

play sick poe league instead

[spiral oasis]

More speed? Or keep da leech? 🤔

[unreal onyx]

prot warr new secret meta?

[serene charm]

my feet has good piece tho but i guess doesnt matter?

or

[thorny cove]

It's actually so funny how you guys just sit there and eat it when there's a clear fault with the system but w/e I guess

[oblique trail]

Prot warr does own

evidently

[clever path]

prot owns

[oblique trail]

And I don't know how to play this spec properly

[covert blaze]

go play another game

[clever path]

it just suffers from no one playing it for some reason

[thorny cove]

I guess I just don't take pride and running the same dungeon 20 times in a row

[clever path]

tbf prot warr has no utility compared to shit like prot pala

[primal bane]

What’s the fault I missed it

[clever path]

or veng

[final birch]

Brew, bdk

[runic pine]

meanwhile I cri cuz tanks either don't hold aggro or like this one, don't pull more than 3 mobs on the monk

[final birch]

They absolutely fuck this season

[unreal cape]

just stop, you're not making any sense

[final birch]

Vdh

[unreal onyx]

I haven't played any dungeon 20 times over the whole season so far

[unreal cape]

go troll somewhere else

[unreal onyx]

and am almost 3k

[covert blaze]

why do you care about the key level you are getting invited to then

[unreal onyx]

so it's not that

[primal bane]

How is that even possible?

[covert blaze]

you are ill

[oblique trail]

Haven't played with any iirc that has done this damage personally, but I also don't push keys or play with absolute gamers

[runic pine]

you say that, but this BDK let me get slapped about 5 different times when I was in CDs on WW

[final birch]

I havent played with a really good dam brews so far, only seen screenshots

But I played with some gigachad bdks

That do monster damage

Granted half of them had leggo

But still

[unreal onyx]

(I pugged them all)

[runic pine]

blood can do some p good dam tho

[final birch]

Blood fucks

[runic pine]

idk how some of them don't

it's super passive damage

[final birch]

My 460 bdk does up to 150k in brh

And im bad xd

So imagine a good bdk

[unreal onyx]

bear is lowest dmg from my pug keys on avg

then comes pally

[clever path]

idk in a 23 brh prot warr was a dps

[unreal onyx]

actually, I don't think I have played any key with a prot warr this season

[clever path]

gamer

[primal bane]

Damn I thought pally pumped

[covert blaze]

@hasty path is pretty decent

[unreal onyx]

that's just from my pug keys

and as you know, most are demonic

[final birch]

I closed eb as 225k augless as prot war

[storm rune]

Whenever I do they wind up having the most scuffed build possible

[final birch]

And brh tyra at 200k+

[balmy shore]

maybe dps players suck

[primal bane]

Pally like the easiest tank I think

[hasty path]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-kumala-la-kumala-la-savesta-kumala-my-honest-gif-26073681

[oblique trail]

fun fact

[clever path]

prot is just turbo underrated imo

[oblique trail]

DPS players playing tanks are better than tank players playing tanks

99% of the time

[clever path]

true

[primal bane]

Free interrupts

[balmy shore]

real

[clever path]

dps rerolls>tanks

[hasty path]

That goes for every spec

[final birch]

I learned a lot about tanking

By going dps

And watching other people tank in my keys

[hasty path]

any time someone plays multiple roles they are better than someone who only plays one in my experience

[oblique trail]

Have you seen tank players reroll to dps

[balmy shore]

i tried healing once

wanted 2 die

[hasty path]

ya why

[oblique trail]

It is very obvious if you play with a tank main who is playing dps for the first time

[storm rune]

Tanks who don't offspec DPS don't understand how difficult it can be when for the first 20 key levels nothing actually did any damage to you

[primal bane]

Started gearing my resto sham I like it

[hasty path]

there's key issues with career tanks, healers, and dps

[covert blaze]

true and real

[clever path]

idk tanking isnt fun unless shit hurts

if i walk into a pack and take no damage

its not fun

[hasty path]

tanks - career tanks never optimize anything, they just pad defense. So they lack rotational skills
dps - career dps never optimize anything but raw overall numbers. So they lack situational awareness and utility use.
heals - career healers like to just afk when they arent healing. put them on something that doesnt allow them to do that while still being 'effective' at their job and they struggle

[primal bane]

Tanking is boring in general

[oblique trail]

I find it very fun to on purpose ruin my DPS'ers experience by pulling when their CDs aren't up

[final birch]

Its fun if you can compete with dps

But then you just stand there and be like

[clever path]

idk

[oblique trail]

You just used your CDs on a 5 mob pack? Let me pull the entire corridor before pig boss in Waycrest

[primal bane]

Shadowlands healing = 4th dps

[final birch]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-confused-standing-humans-gif-21111719

[glacial haven]

Any of you guys using signet for m+?

[oblique trail]

As a tank yes 👴

but generally no

It's only worth if you can guarantee uptime of stacks between packs

[hasty path]

i wouldnt unless you know the tank

[covert blaze]

demon

[primal bane]

If you don’t have something better

[barren ore]

augury + ocean

[clever path]

and then they got hit

[hasty path]

and only in certain dungeons

[clever path]

with a season

[glacial haven]

Just done a 24 brh and it was pure shite

[clever path]

where they actually had to heal for once

[hasty path]

i have no loyalty for anyone

[oblique trail]

I've had this happen to me many times

I simply return the favour

[sand crest]

yo guys, returning player here, is it worth breaking old 4pc to equip current 2pc and playing RA build? or is that only worth with 4pc

[clever path]

in st yes

in m+ no

[final birch]

When I see a good gamer I’ll pull around his cds

[sand crest]

ty

[final birch]

Fun to see packs being annihilated

[oblique trail]

I've only tanked with friends

[final birch]

I dont have friends

[oblique trail]

So it's like do I pull around their CDs and make it quicker

[glacial haven]

Might have to go back to branch then

[oblique trail]

Or do I pull around their CDs when they don't have them

[covert blaze]

i can't tank, it's too boring

[oblique trail]

I don't enjoy tanking 99% of the time either

[clever path]

idk i just pull half the dungeon say no extenral healing then get 14 heart attacks

its fun

trust

[covert blaze]

i used to tank heroic sales years ago and it was the most boring shit ive ever done in game

[oblique trail]

But it's fun looking at the meters and see me be above the other DPS and poke fun at them

[past pivot]

Good article on it. https://www.wowhead.com/news/melee-dps-trinket-cataclysmic-signet-brand-explained-learn-how-it-works-and-when-336868?webhook Anywya, Augury + Might are the ones you really want for M+

[hallow hull]

Quick question. How much haste is considered ideal for Fury? Is it more is more? Or a set cap?

My sims seem to run counter to what I am interpreting other Fury run as far as haste goes.

[frank dawn]

There aren’t any specific breakpoints or anything it all varies based on your current gear and trinkets to some degree

Like there are breakpoints but not ones we aim for, but if you’re close to one at “high haste” the sim will want you to hit it

Generally you can trust the sim

[runic pine]

speaking of BDKs......

[hallow hull]

Hmm I just got the BRH haste trink. And it would put me at 37%

Which is cracked imo lol

[runic pine]

homie didn't want to go battlefield first and insisted on lusting morchie....

3600 something io player last season

[charred panther]

Sim but usually 25-27ish is what I end up using pending situation

[frank dawn]

Well it could just be the trinket is the best you got.

The haste is just a by product

[charred panther]

Mastery/vers being the go to w crit becoming much better in aoe/m+

[final birch]

Thats not bad

Honestly

Only lusts relevant are first and last

[runic pine]

lusting morchie?

nah

bad lust imo

[final birch]

U dont need lust for battlefield or morchie

U just do it on cd

[hallow hull]

@charred panther No I got the heroic CSB and Might of the ocean as well.

[runic pine]

you don't, but battlefield is a better lust tbh

[final birch]

It is but its also longer to get there

I.e

You have 3 trash packs

Instead of 1

[hallow hull]

The man just REALLY wanted Morchi diea

Dead^

[runic pine]

raider.io is dead

holy

[narrow narwhal]

I killed it

[final birch]

Its dead half the time

Constantly lags

since mid s2

[wet notch]

So I got one of those tokens to increase drop chance of the axe from lfr. Can I use that in heroic?

[olive wraith]

Blp tokens are cumulative yes

As far as we know the “boost” it gives happens instantly and the item itself is just placebo

[unreal onyx]

I thought the "boost" is active in the next week

the greater at least

[olive wraith]

That sounds more correct

But basically actually clicking the item doesn’t do anything

The blp is awarded when you loot it

[wary mountain]

Hey team, I have a hero track augury, hero track cataclysm and myth track rezans,. Outside of summing each one.. Which in general would be better for raid or m+?

[charred gate]

N00b question how do you guys sim for m+? xD

[clever path]

5m st then just change trinkets

[clever path]

augury + rezans for shorter bosses

signet + rezans for longer bosses

[silent gazelle]

fuck rezans

augury all day

[clever path]

483 augury vs 489 rezans

[molten relic]

Augury goated

[rigid stirrup]

Augury always gets more value because it hits multiple targets and it proca a fuck ton

[clever path]

i meant for raid

in m+ you want augury + on use

both rezans and signet are ass

signet can be good if you can keep the stacks up

which you cant in most dungeons unless you use worn doll

tank will have to stop chaining so your healer gets mana

or some stupid rp

with no critters to stay in combat

[balmy shore]

we love aug (ury)

[clever path]

idk aug ruined the game

m+ especially

[balmy shore]

i typed augury

[clever path]

ye ik

[tardy lark]

even the augs hate aug

[clever path]

didnt they say

they will rework aug into a normal dps spec

[tardy lark]

doubt it

[clever path]

and then think about supports specs again

seems like i got baited or something

[covert blaze]

[tardy lark]

but i do hope they look at aug as a failed experiemtn

[clever path]

idk aug in raid is w/e

hooks are fucked up and thats about it

its in 5 man content

in m+ specifically

it just doesnt work

when u have 3 spots for dps 1 for heal and 1 for tank

i wouldnt be surprised if you could run 2 aug instead of a healer

and get 2 tanky dps

didnt noxiv time a 27 like 2 weeks ago with 2 aug

ad 27

[tardy lark]

having 2 dps slots locked in for aug kinda blows

[clever path]

no heal

so 4 dps

guardian can just offheal

[tardy lark]

zephyr, small rally, time spiral, run while casting thing, their drag and drop without interrupting casts and so on

they are just wayyyyy too good in good players hands

[left perch]

Aug didn’t ruin the game cmon

don’t be salt

[clever path]

nvm

[tardy lark]

🧂

[cursive hound]

Does gorehowl only drop from rise and not fall?

[clever path]

aug + havoc frost (mage obv) fury

and guardian druid

[oblique trail]

yes

[dusk jackal]

hello warriors!

[tardy lark]

yes

[balmy shore]

augfury

[clever path]

27 ad 2 weeks ago

no healer

mad healers?

[cursive hound]

Ty!

[left perch]

I healed 21 waycrest and felt like we would’ve lived better if I was Aug

I’m also very bad at prevo only done it like 3 times ever

[dusk jackal]

so bloodmallet and warcraft logs tells me that i should use Might of the Ocean over Mirror of Fractured Tomorrows. My sims tell me otherwise. who do i believe?

[clever path]

havent seen one

since s1

[final birch]

S2 dev was strongp

[young swan]

what are you simming

[final birch]

Pre aug

Real stronk

[left perch]

yea they stopped designing fights to need them I guess lol

[dusk jackal]

both Single and multitarget patchwork

[young swan]

believe your sim

mirror likely better cause its giving you a good stat

[dusk jackal]

ok

[young swan]

for m+ id still recommend might

[oblique trail]

Do keep in mind though that in M+ using Mirror can cause you to desync it from your CDs, making it a bigger pain than it's likely worth using

[young swan]

just cause it lines up better

[oblique trail]

I'd never personally use Mirror over Might in M+ simply due to consistency

[final birch]

^

Mirror is a bit of a pain

[young swan]

mirror in m+ is quite stinky

[dusk jackal]

yeah, its frustrating because i dont see any fury warriors in the top 20 using mirror over Might

[clever path]

mirror is annoying

in m+

if you dont send ur cds on cd it will desync

[dusk jackal]

but yeah, my sims tell me its a 1000+ dps upgrade

[young swan]

1k dps at this point is like 0.5% dps

pretty negligable

[final birch]

Top 20 is probably the only bracket where you could run it

As most top off meta specs have teams

And coordinated pulls

[dusk jackal]

just to be clear, theyre using Might. I dont see any top 20 fury warriors using mirror.

[olive wraith]

Imagine dying after using mirror

That gotta suck

[final birch]

Wouldn’t be me

Dying on pull of 2nd boss in eb after lust, popping ava and mirror

[olive wraith]

Pulling aggro

Big oof

[covert blaze]

Can mirror give you haste during lust on current stats

Cause that was pretty fun last season

[zealous vigil]

Do you save CDs on Heroic Smolderon for first intermission then each intermission after?

[brittle crow]

i got perma duck duty on council

lets goooooo

[plush flower]

out of tindral prison

[storm rune]

You can treat it like mythic, but the seemingly random order of the rings makes when you can collect the orbs a bit funny at times

[hybrid karma]

isn't the order always the same

[serene charm]

is this a good upgrad eor should i save my aspect crests for crafted gear?

[storm rune]

Maybe it's the brain damage speaking but it seemed pretty random between pulls, though Mythic looks like it's the same order. I just thought that was a gimme the devs gave so the fight isn't too insane

[hybrid karma]

also only for the first intermission is cds a little awkward after that its ok

[oblique trail]

Mythic is the same order

Heroic idk but just delay as needed on HC as well

Unless you don't really care since it's HC so it'll die anyway

Worst case, you can soak the ring with ER and live it just fine

[storm rune]

Look at mister "My healers don't parse below 10" over here staying alive while standing in the fire

[oblique trail]

You don't need a healer to stay alive through a ring on HC

[hybrid karma]

[oblique trail]

I do it with pugs where I trust literally no one

[storm rune]

[balmy shore]

GZ

[covert blaze]

Do you space out ER and SR

[oblique trail]

Yes

ER right before ring hits, just before ER runs out I use SR

Both on HC and Mythic this works just fine

[hybrid karma]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/warrior-fury/smolderon atleast to that fullsending is good

[molten relic]

It’s definitely random on heroic

[hybrid karma]

you sure? intermission 3 was always the same way scuffed for me

[plush flower]

ty

[serene charm]

is it worth upgrading champion gear or better save for hero?

[balmy shore]

don't save you determine where the orbs spawn so you can line up your cds regardless if it's heroic or mythic

rings don't matter even if they're random imo just pop an enraged regen

if you giga miss or something

[pine wagon]

for raid are we suppossed to be macroing reck and ava together?

[oblique trail]

You're not supposed to macro them together regardless of the content

[calm mantle]

Man afflicteds going off feels so ass on fury, I'm attacking in slow mode.

[open prairie]

isnt the avatar supposed to be spaced from reck

due to titans torment

[clever path]

yes

[hardy wadi]

i tested the leggy some keys, the active feels like a wasted interaction^^, i seem to do way more dmg if i just keep rampage, BT'ing. maybe when i absolutely cant click anything, but i dont come often into that situation. ^^

[clever path]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1186960838460973056/221b3e065210c352b634849e3baca08f.png?ex=659e60ec&is=658bebec&hm=4d4d9aecae40d7979e0fea25433829295c59292d589f91f749d8fb8c8c860535&

from pins

[open prairie]

click

[clever path]

first world problems

oh no the active doesnt do shit!!!

[hardy wadi]

well the active dot is a big dmg increase im happy about that tho

feels like a third trinket

i mean the dot i get from every hit, not the active my bad

[open prairie]

i mean the active is basically

like a longer torch/beacon

you literally treat it like an on use trinket attached to your wep

[hardy wadi]

i seem to not get any rage in that animation and i cant interrupt spells either with my kick, so not sure if worth

[open prairie]

yeah you couldnt with grieftorch either

or any channel

[hardy wadi]

never had that

you mean the s1 trinket right?

[open prairie]

yeah

[hardy wadi]

couldnt test it sadly

[clever path]

i hated it

[open prairie]

idk why you would use the lego active during cds

[clever path]

fuck grieftorch

[hardy wadi]

for testing purposes

[clever path]

log inflation

more people dead = more resets

[hardy wadi]

wanted to know if its a cool button to press every 2 minutes

[open prairie]

i mean….

[clever path]

nah this week is too chil

chill

0 affixes

[open prairie]

reck doesnt affect trinket crit

[hardy wadi]

good to know

then i shouldnt waste my time in recklessness

[open prairie]

unless its whitelisted

[oblique trail]

it doesn't

[hasty path]

got bad news for u bud

[open prairie]

channeled trinkets tbh have always been funny

[oblique trail]

Unless it's been changed, Faeline works with trinkets but outside of that nothing does

[open prairie]

on gcd capped classes

[hasty path]

spear crit dmg does

[final birch]

Boon giga funny

Cant move

Brrrrrr

[oblique trail]

Yeah okay Spear too

[open prairie]

boon lol

idk if its worth using your spear

just to amp axe

[hardy wadi]

dont think so

[oblique trail]

It's not

Spear amp is reserved for guaranteed BB crits

[open prairie]

ik rogue in s2 symbols of death giving 10% crit affected trinkets

[final birch]

Fated means we’re gonna be this ilv or we’re gonna go up one more time?

[hardy wadi]

the first hits feel like a bad rampage but the last hit is nice

[oblique trail]

Fated increases the ilvl

At least it did in Shadowlands

[final birch]

Whats up with leggo then

[hardy wadi]

it has a

[final birch]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-wreck-gif-24688521

[hardy wadi]

permanent dot

[oblique trail]

You'll likely have to refarm it

Or get an upgrade token for it in S4

[hardy wadi]

with no downtime

100% active all the time ^^

its like 6-8% of my dmg in keys

[final birch]

Cant refarm if you never had it in the first place

[open prairie]

it basically is 2 trinkets from what i’ve seen

a proc trinket

and an on use

built into a wep

btw @oblique trail my friend sent me this

quit for most of s2 comes back does siege once and

[oblique trail]

Happy for him to have acquired overrated shoulders that fit nothing

Just like T3 is also overrated that I use

[open prairie]

yeah the funny was getting two

in the same run

[open prairie]

no you

[oblique trail]

well

I love T3 but at this point I use it because I've spent way too much gold on it

And feel like it'd be a waste not to use it

2far gone

[hasty path]

cant wait to refarm

[open prairie]

bomb dispenser on woyer

also @oblique trail i love doing dht with 100k more overall

because tank did a route that pulled every flower in the instance

and spawned 5 whelps on cd during dresaron

[oblique trail]

This is the kind of tanking I do regardless of my group being ready for it or not xd

"Oh there are mobs we can pull onto the boss? lol hope you ahve cds"

[open prairie]

thats what one of our dh tanks does

i swear its always dh tanks that do it

[oblique trail]

well I was a DH tank in S1

[open prairie]

[oblique trail]

I mean

I'm a Fury warrior

So if I can play a spec that does uncapped AoE damage then I will make use of it

Aka Prot

👴

If the DPS can't keep up lol not my issue I'll live just fine and keep doing damage

[hasty path]

that is my monk

🙂

[molten relic]

Ele feels okay after eq buffs but still target capped on main spell

Just like us

[open prairie]

its enh

[open prairie]

brew does alot of damage last i checked too

so not surprised

[open prairie]

i’ve only played prot in tw tbh

giga haste+3x bastion of might with vision major too funny

[oblique trail]

I've done like 6 keys on it now this season

And without fail do 150-180k dps as it overall

Ofc my party usually is not as big a fan of my pull patterns

That's what 5t cap does to you

[open prairie]

biggest overalls i usually see

are from vdhs

[hasty path]

vdh does the most damage right now out of the tanks so

i would hope so

[open prairie]

tbh idk how they mitigate damage even

outside of spikes+fiery brand

[oblique trail]

Have a trillion HP and self heal

[open prairie]

but how do you mitigate big hits from deleting you

just brand and spikes?

[oblique trail]

Brand iirc is like a 40% damage reduction

Of all damage

[final birch]

Tbh as much as vdh does most dam I feel like all tanks are just so nicely balanced

[open prairie]

ik on prot warrior our main tank used to meme

[oblique trail]

Spikes just gives parry and a lot of armour (might do more since their change idk)

[open prairie]

he never leaves battle stance

as prot

in s1

[oblique trail]

I've yet to press DStance but I have also only tanked 20s for quick weeklies

So it's just a timeloss to press it 👴

[open prairie]

well generally good tank things are similar to good dps

[final birch]

https://youtube.com/shorts/QlZbLUVRphY?si=O58C96C37qr-MXkQ annihilator was the play in s1 too?

[open prairie]

except you know how the boss works now too

[oblique trail]

Very early in DF/Prepatch

Something like that

[open prairie]

i.e keeping up buffs like shield block

[open prairie]

yeah tank used to joke

“i know its slightly spooky when i have to consider going dstance”

[final birch]

Idk people r exaggerating this bstance dstance shit

Its like 6% dps sure

But I’d rather lose that and sleep comfy at night

[open prairie]

its prob the mentality

of most “career tanks”

who give 0 fucks about damage

[clever path]

do you even need dstance in anything lower than like 23s

i guess for specific boss mechanics?

like deios hurts gigahard

[final birch]

U dont need in general but when that dog pack lives too long in tot shit hurts

Or when people never ever use aoe stops on tyr trash

Idk if its just me but spell block only covers so much

[clever path]

no clue

i remember in smbg

those little w/e they are

that cast void bolt

that bolt that deletes your tank

spell reflect didnt even reduce the damage

spell block was blocking it

🤷

funny game i guess

[gusty oasis]

Anyone get legendary weapon yet and are you using it? Seeing alot of mixed reviews from different ppl for fury

[final birch]

Wait that hurt u?

Idk the only thing I recall that was painful there

Were skellies

[oblique trail]

Ofc people are using it if they got it

[final birch]

But u could kite them actively

[gilded pawn]

You use it for ilevel

[oblique trail]

You'd be genuinely stupid if you aren't

[gusty oasis]

I see alot of ppl not using it so iwas just curious lol

[oblique trail]

The active as well, while small, is a gain regardless

[gusty oasis]

im using mine

[oblique trail]

When you say use

Do you mean equip or the on-use effect

[gilded pawn]

Literally says reflectable in the sheet

[gilded pawn]

Cuz ppl don’t have it

[final birch]

Tho first time I’ve seen people do higher keys I was flabbergasted when andy pulled skellies with the boss in 29

I was like this man has balls of fucking steel

[clever path]

no clue i remember taking damage

[gusty oasis]

in general lol, ive ran into 8 other fury warriors that had it and only 2 besides myself were actually using it

[clever path]

they have a brain deformity then

[oblique trail]

If they aren't equipping it, they're dumb. If they're not using it and you're trying to deduct it by looking at Details, it only shows the dot on the actual breakdown after a recent change.

[gilded pawn]

You use it just for ilevel

[clever path]

i think its void slash

[gilded pawn]

You can not play the active if you hate it so much

[clever path]

not void bolt

[oblique trail]

The on-use damage is counted into the dots damage on the breakdown

[covert blaze]

jesus lmao

[final birch]

Void slash was skellies

U kited them

If you didnt have spell block up

Which was 20 sec in season 1

[clever path]

ye skellies

[gilded pawn]

Void slash was a l2p moment yeah

Just kite back

[final birch]

Just take small steps

[open prairie]

wait

[final birch]

Like in uldaman

[open prairie]

why would you have axe

and not use it

lmfao

[final birch]

I loved pulling snakes with 3rd boss

[clever path]

protesting

based

[open prairie]

even if it the on use wasnt worth its still 7 ilvl over the next best wep

and has a free dmg proc

[clever path]

dont tell them

[final birch]

Wasnt that fun as bdk though when sheer melees would delete you…

[clever path]

3rd boss was the snake

or emberon

[open prairie]

reminds me of this

[final birch]

Snake

[gilded pawn]

real

[final birch]

Pulling trash with emberon wss omega troll if key wasnt giga high

People dont have eyes

[gusty oasis]

That just makes my heart hurt lol

[final birch]

Tbf kinda missing cos

Overall idk if its sentiment or what but s1 dungeons seem the best

-hov, fuck that

[gilded pawn]

Rlp not fun

[covert blaze]

i hated s1 dungeons

[final birch]

Rlp was op

One of my fav

[open prairie]

i like how most of the s3 dungeons

can be sub 20mins

for vault

[clever path]

spell reflect should always be reducing rot dmg and stuff on Nymue yeah?

[oblique trail]

Yes

Regardless of reflecting something or not, SR is always a 20% magic DR while it's active

[open prairie]

SR is just a magic defensive if it reflects nothing

[olive wraith]

No leggo for me this week 🥲

[clever path]

next week

trust

[clever path]

ad is giga fast

did a 20 in 16 mins

[sullen dove]

486 shadowflame like 1.1k better than 486 allied wrist... that kinda normal?

sorta outta left field

but w/e

[clever path]

yes

im running wrists cause i like vers

vers keeps me safe

it all comes down to is it worth dropping 305 vers for 1k more damage

[sullen dove]

well i mean the sf bracer is statted mast verse

so im losing like 200 crit and haste or whatever for mostly 299 mast

[sudden tusk]

yeah are 2 worst stats

are on the vers bracers

[sullen dove]

[clever path]

i mean we still want them

[sudden tusk]

but it is pure ST vs

some aoe

[open prairie]

eventually get both

ig

[full viper]

Guys, if you get removed mid fight on Fyrakk, don’t get loot and also get locked out ?

[sullen dove]

uh.. if they kill the boss

[full viper]

Is this intended or a bug

[sullen dove]

but whyd you get removed mid fight

[open prairie]

thats such a niche scenario

played like a 🐒 prob

[sudden tusk]

\

[clever path]

this is like the cylinder stuck in a can video

[full viper]

Fyrakk normal pug group

[final birch]

Ive had 1 scenario where the group disbanded in m+ at the start of the dungeon

Everyone got message that they were kicked

And I was the leader

Very weird

[full viper]

Was lagging. Disconnected. And I reconnected. I was removed. Got lockout . No loot

[idle osprey]

Me watching literally EVERY Melee guildie in our raid team get Fyr'alath after 1 Greater Ember, while I'm here on my 6-7th Greater Ember and no axe.

[sullen dove]

real

[open prairie]

could be worse

[idle osprey]

How?

[open prairie]

could be the only lego axe belongs to the hpal

[sullen dove]

yea i mean that is pretty horrendously dick move to just insta kick someone dcing MID FIGHT especially

[open prairie]

who only plays ret in vault keys

[tepid shore]

It's time.

[sullen dove]

like should be obvious its a dc and that they'd come back

normal pug raid leaders off their fuckin rocker with that one

[open prairie]

yeah i usually give people like

2-3mins

to come back

[full viper]

Yup. And I was still alive. Fighting Fyrak just that I wasn’t in the raid group anymore

[sullen dove]

or like... at least if you wipe on the boss 💀

[open prairie]

mid pull is like

[full viper]

It died and I couldn’t loot boss

[sullen dove]

did you like spam the chat for reinvite

[open prairie]

im too busy blasting

[sullen dove]

to ask

idk

[open prairie]

clicking boot someone

[sullen dove]

only real thing to do there

[open prairie]

is dps loss

[sullen dove]

fr

[full viper]

Yeah. They were just making funny faces etc

[open prairie]

ig if you play evoker

and have 30apm

its doable

[sullen dove]

wack

[sudden tusk]

tendril is awesome

[sullen dove]

tendril

[sudden tusk]

but this man is jail

[sullen dove]

[sudden tusk]

need to get lego

so i can change name to tendril jail

[restive peak]

Man they straight ruined smolder holy fuck

We just like 2 shot it w 3 new peeps cuz of vacation, and 5 dead for the last 40%....wtf

fight was such a banger, now it's garbo

[sullen dove]

yea... people... got gear

thats kinda how those fights go

aside from the slight mechanic nerf boss's hp hasnt moved

everyones just 486+ now

[restive peak]

The mechanic nerf was pretty huge

[young swan]

yeah they also gutted it

[restive peak]

A lot less uptime lost etc

[young swan]

3 orbs

4 waves

[restive peak]

Tornados 20% easier

[young swan]

its just easy

[restive peak]

Orbs 25% easier

Absolute joke of a fight now

[sullen dove]

dont let my guild know that

[young swan]

cant wait for them to do that to tindral

fight sucks balls

[brittle crow]

ok but council is actually so much more fun as a duck

[restive peak]

There's no DPS check to stress anymore so they just should stop looking at DPS charts and smolder will just fall over

[brittle crow]

i love duck gaming

[sullen dove]

any duckers

[open prairie]

idk

smold has been

dont eat tornados

for awhile

[hasty path]

Somehow we still wiped 12x on reclear tonight

[open prairie]

wish we actually did reclear sometimes

tindral is just

boring

[sullen dove]

230k without leggo soonge

[restive peak]

xD

[hasty path]

We haven’t started tindral yet

Holiday roster issues so pure reclear last 2 weeks

[open prairie]

it has a healer mechanic

should say enough

[hasty path]

I’m a tank man

I don’t do shit ever

[open prairie]

yeah but healers are kinda

[sullen dove]

smolderon also has a healer mech ...

[open prairie]

not the brightest

[sullen dove]

every 30 seconds ...

[open prairie]

yeah i mean i dont understand the point

of doing 1-2 weeks of prog on a boss that is likely going to be gutted

after holidays

there is no way they dont severely nerf tindral after new year’s

[sullen dove]

surely

would enjoy a pushover for when i inevitably get there in like.. hopefully a week

[open prairie]

if they give him the halondrus treatment

i will be upset

though

[sullen dove]

idk what even causes wipes anymore

but just nerf that

[open prairie]

well

ranged have to stand in position

thats a challenge

[hasty path]

That plus having several key people out (including warrior buff and Druid buff) is why we didn’t even touch it

[open prairie]

i mean we only did trivial farm on xmas week

but i still dont think 1 week of slamming head into a boss that is going to be gutted is worth idk

but people suck at larodar so

[sudden tusk]

man knowing when to cd tendril

is just terrible

[ember apex]

leggo axe on use does a little charge forward on smolderon if u are max melee range

[open prairie]

hot take but personally i think being bad at reclear

means people barely understand fight mechanics

[cunning crystal]

Does anyone know if that counterweight trinket is simbait or not

[open prairie]

and kind of just limped into a kill

[oblique trail]

It should be as good as it sims, but it's not a good trinket

You might have an occasional pull where it looks great, but on average there are better trinkets that you can farm out, or loot from raid

[cunning crystal]

It Sims extremely high for me for some reason even though I have great trinkets it's been throwing me off

[covert blaze]

you can understand but have boomer awareness/reflexes

[open prairie]

lmao true

[covert blaze]

and die to avoidable shit on a bad overlap or something

[open prairie]

i did an AD pug with a tauren warrior playing arms

this guy walks over to the ret’s totem realizes someones there

then walks over to mine realizes im there

and slowly keyboard turns and walks to last one

[olive wraith]

And then he dpsed the last totem from that spot

[open prairie]

i hate that boss with pugs

im usually half afk waiting for people

[covert blaze]

you die with me

[haughty stirrup]

I hate yazma . All fine except spiders

[cunning crystal]

Pugs don't realize you gotta use CDs to kill totems instead of wet noodling it

[spiral oasis]

I go in there with OF and do well enough

[olive wraith]

Ye

If I pop avatar my totem will be gone way before theirs

[open prairie]

i mean OF is such a short cd

why would you not press it

lmao

[cunning crystal]

It depends on the level I guess

[spiral oasis]

I'm just saying I only use one "cooldown"

[open prairie]

yeah i’d never reck on a totem

unless its like high tyr

maybe

[spiral oasis]

I guess if you're on a 26 tyr then maybe you'd have trouble but my ass would NOT be pugging that

[covert blaze]

aug totems

[spiral oasis]

LOLE

dumb little dragon keep throwing ur flames buddy

too much haste

[left perch]

Actual worst pov

I even give heads up before and they just don’t listen

[covert blaze]

15% speed

[spiral oasis]

I don't even have any speed enchants. Considering getting them.

[covert blaze]

nah, don't, they're useless

[spiral oasis]

but i like being fast

i keep the leech..

[quiet geyser]

does the titan's torment's ava proc not break roots?

[covert blaze]

you should have avoidance on everything

[spiral oasis]

i must leech

[young swan]

holy fuck finally free from tindral

thank god

[quiet geyser]

@young swan you know?

[nova garnet]

Is fury the weeb spec or is arms

Got my names for ww

[young swan]

they do, you need to cancel aura ur previous avatar

[nova garnet]

I think he dual wields 2h, so possibly fury?

[young swan]

or juggle ur cd's so ur not using avatar on the first root set (you shouldnt be doing that anyway)

[left perch]

yes

[nova garnet]

Pog

[left perch]

man I wonder if I can main fury again in tww

[quiet geyser]

im flying on first set

[young swan]

yeah thats banned

get moved to 2nd set

[quiet geyser]

my ava on third set isn't proccing it through

for soem reason

as in root break

[young swan]

its absolutely fucks fury to fly 1st set

u prob have ava lingering from 2nd set

just make a cancel aura if ur guild insists on fucking u

but 1st set is very cursed for fury

just straight up lose OF casts

[quiet geyser]

ya its annoying

[quaint trail]

can you not get the freedom from avatar if you activate OF while you have the avatar already effected?

[quiet geyser]

apparently not

[young swan]

no

again

juggle ur cd's

or make a cancel aura

[quiet geyser]

legit 1 second on ava left from using on 2nd set to third set lol

so just gotta hold for 1 second

[quaint trail]

now that i learned that im more mad at this spec

[covert blaze]

juggle dn xan

[nova garnet]

We can weeb together

[dense elbow]

Ah, early morning Fury. Never change, never change

[left perch]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-anime-blush-anime-blushing-blushing-anime-gif-5831004057039168545

[young swan]

blow your head off

[hardy cargo]

gratz, im not excited I smoldy should be dead next week and time to start my jail

[young swan]

in vidya game

[young swan]

gg praying the boss gets nerfed for u

shit is NOT fun