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#fury
proud crown
where's all ur sockets
wild mural
unluck ig
daring zephyr
When should I be using odyn's fury in relation to roots for Tswift mythic? trying to figure out if popping it and clearing myself is worth the tree that spawns
young swan
When should I be using odyn's fury in relation to roots for Tswift mythic? tryin...
lorrgs.io has your answer
very overpowered website
proud crown
no more aspects
even wyrm can be better than hero track rings, and 100% corrupting rage uptime is cheating >:(
daring zephyr
lorrgs.io has your answer
i've looked at that i just am not sure if the gap in between roots spawning and their use of OF is enough for the roots to despawn or if they're popping to kill roots
to be killed i mean, not despawn
young swan
you offset OF and avatar so u have ava, either from OF or by the actual cast, for every clear
daring zephyr
so it's ok to spawn a tree by clearing myself?
daring zephyr
ya, there wouldnt be much of a point if im not in the raid because my OF wouldn't hit much
young swan
theres still a point, but yeah, wouldnt do much damage
remote tulip
so augury and signet is our bis?
past pivot
for raid, yes
past pivot
Or SF + Allied.
snow edge
You can sim yourself, but that's likely going to give you the highest ST dps on paper
humble plover
whats the corrupting rage % average rn? 85? 90?
remote tulip
You can sim yourself, but that's likely going to give you the highest ST dps on ...
i feel like using 2x SF is the meta now
but i will sim
young swan
i feel like using 2x SF is the meta now
allied are just straight up better in aoe
remote tulip
allied are just straight up better in aoe
i figured
young swan
can 2x SF if u want ST
but allied are better everywhere else and provide survivability
past pivot
There is no "meta". Lots go Allied for M+ and for prog and for ease
humble plover
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1uXKMP7J4FgXZmv79TNaBb
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u6rLZQfPSwTSAh2G5YC2vs if blizzard stopped playing with my emotions
remote tulip
but allied are better everywhere else and provide survivability
yea i would rather stick with allied dont want to spend more crests for crafted pieces lol
past pivot
Last I checked, they sim pretty closely so not going to change the game 1 way or the other
snow edge
A second SF is like 1k+ for me, so less than 0.5%
wild mural
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u6rLZQfPSwTSAh2G5YC2vs if blizzard stoppe...
twinning 241k simers
past pivot
MT sims are always sus since people use all kinds of different sims and parameters. And since they're MT sims.
past pivot
gz
humble plover
grats
remote tulip
That ain't a ST sim my dude
yup thats aoe my bad
meager gyro
narrow narwhal
it's fine, banezi still has the same pfp they started today with
unborn minnow
im so bad as fury i can only grey parse.. idk what im doing wrong T_T
unreal onyx
I hope I can sit on bench for all bosses but volcoross tomorrow 
that would give me full heroic vault at least
lethal fractal
for anyone who has the ledgendary, is both the dot and on use damage combined in details?
lean heart
BOYS 
unreal cape
for anyone who has the ledgendary, is both the dot and on use damage combined in...
yeah it seems like it, because only mark of fyr‘alath shows up in your damage breakdown
lethal fractal
okay cool. i saw meeres had both rage and mark of fyr show up in details
urban tapir
lets go baby
ember apex
pog. leggo gang rise up
lean heart
acoustic furnace
Okay so it's not just me then
acoustic furnace
yeah nah I can't do anything on the website rn. won't load characters or even let me log back in.
ionic dirge
Yea same here.. Hope they will fix it soon
oblique trail
You use Roar in basically any content except 3 bosses in Raid
remote tulip
wow i've been using spear this whole time lol
remote yew
young swan
yeah its really bad
tepid scroll
I’m sad my 482 outlaw rogue destroys my 485 fury in keys 😦
Fury is so much more fun but hot damn
frail trout
DH destroys both
halcyon cobalt
Hey yall, quick question. This discord is saying mastery and vers should be high this season, but wowhead and icyveins seems to disagree. Can anyone tell me why the difference?
ashen socket
7 Fyrakk kills and no axe, Deffo not tilted at all
oblique trail
Hey yall, quick question. This discord is saying mastery and vers should be high...
Where do they disagree
I'm looking right now and they say the same thing
spiral oasis
reading season 3 in BC
left perch
season diff
vagrant imp
So killed if I killed Normal then heroic fyrrak this week LFR is a 0% chance right?
halcyon cobalt
Where do they disagree
Your right for wowhead, I was reading season 2, but icyviens still show verse as last place
hexed lotus
is haveing the lego axe back for dps or is that still not figured out yet
summer quail
is that the move?
Simming is the move
silver stirrup
pog thanks
oblique trail
Your right for wowhead, I was reading season 2, but icyviens still show verse as...
Just gonna break it to you I just don't think Archi updated this particular page on IV to differentiate between S2 and S3, but just sim yourself
W/e is said in this Discord will be the most up to date anyway
fallow adder
Do you guys know of a website where you can see a list or something like that which shows what you can intervene / spell reflect/ anything kinda techy but really usefull in depth warrior stuff
oblique trail
There's a spell reflect sheet in the pins
As for intervene, literally nothing because you don't ever pick it and only thing it works on is auto attacks (and ideally this would only be on the tank and you'd die)
halcyon cobalt
Just gonna break it to you I just don't think Archi updated this particular page...
Fair enough and thank you. I'm still trying to wrap my head around season 3, since I havent been active much since season 1. I'm slow adjusting to changes
oblique trail
is haveing the lego axe back for dps or is that still not figured out yet
What do you mean
As in it's back for DPS to be able to loot it? Is it bad for DPS to have it? What the chances are of it dropping?
Assuming any of these
Yes they can still loot it. It's good for DPS. No one knows the drop chance.
fallow adder
There's a spell reflect sheet in the pins
Sweet, ty. I assume the sheet would also have intervene stuff if it ever becomes useful for bosses like Fenryr etc
barren cradle
is there any theorycrafting regarding when to use active on leggo axe yet?
oblique trail
Didn't play warrior in S1 so not sure what you're referring to, but if there was any intervene tech it'd probably be more common knowledge
oblique trail
is there any theorycrafting regarding when to use active on leggo axe yet?
In the pins
barren cradle
sick ty bb
fallow adder
Didn't play warrior in S1 so not sure what you're referring to, but if there was...
It was, you'd use on on whoever got the fixate mechanic
i forget the name of it
oblique trail
That definitely sounds like an Arms thing
With DBTS
But yeah, atm no there's no real use for intervene except mobility and even then you'd be very hard pressed to find the points to even pick it over any other talent in the tree
naive summit
its so fun getting dumpstered by dh on every pull count imaginable
26 fall
is my dmg just bad or is dh on another level
naive summit
i dont really mind that they are broken
but the main thing is that us getting flexed on every single pull makes it so hard to find groups
like
there is no way in hell i get into a 26 fall unless its my own key
oblique trail
Yeah well if it brings you any comfort they do that to basically any other spec
naive summit
ah bet
oblique trail
It's not just a warrior thing
naive summit
i think its wild that triple dh is actually meta
actually
makes me curious
is there a team running 4 dh rsham
with brez bracers
naive summit
dont need to do mechanics when packs get deleted in 10 sec
prob better to just put an aug in tho
and then run prot pally tank for brez
robust widget
damn right replace the rsham get augvoker
oblique trail
At some point it's not the damage you're lacking but living mechanics
naive summit
yea wait havoc doesnt even need healing
harsh gulch
Our Hpal just got lego. I can't take it anymore.
naive summit
i think fury war is unkillable but could havoc be even tankier?
modest condor
fury is tankier but havoc can leech more
naive summit
if thats the case
modest condor
fury can take harder hits more often
robust widget
playing my dev alt as fury main 
naive summit
then is fury the tankiest class in the game?
modest condor
no
thorny bramble
any1 able to gimme tips on how to do mythic larodar as fury?
naive summit
warlock?
naive summit
oh really
thorny bramble
ww cleave or single target with execute bonus?
naive summit
what makes ret tankier?
they have that 20% wall, we got dstance spell reflect whenever we want, shield of vengeance is a bonus ig
and ofc bubble
we have similar hp
modest condor
i dont know i just know that all the people that do high end content always say ret is tanky af
naive summit
and we got 10% dr on enrage
oblique trail
ww cleave or single target with execute bonus?
Unless you literally burst down the treants in less than 4 globals then go WW talents
robust widget
doesnt ret have insane offheals if needed
oblique trail
You don't lose much at all going WW talents over Ashen + Massacre
naive summit
ah that might push it
thorny bramble
Unless you literally burst down the treants in less than 4 globals then go WW ta...
tyvm
modest condor
but fury tankiness is being slept on by the community unfortunately
modest condor
fury when stacking vers like current season is actually insane
sudden tusk
cant figure out the setting thats tanking it
modest condor
i see my aug drop to 5% and im still at 50%
robust widget
but its also a curse, when i go do keys on my devoker alt i flop over
oblique trail
fury when stacking vers like current season is actually insane
Casually offtanking DHT bears on +22 fortifieds without ER active
(This should not be happening to begin with)
modest condor
when my tank dies on a +25 tyrannical and i just hold the boss for 10+ seconds while the engi res is trying to find the tank
onyx mantle
Hey guys I'm new here, I have a question involving the cataclysmic signet brand. Anyone seeing hella low numbers for it? I sim it at like 5 to 6 percent of my damage but when I play it's like 1. Is it something I'm doing wrong? Thought it was all passive.
oblique trail
Short fight timers
modest condor
also funny, tank dies, i was holding the boss, dh was like "let me tank with blur" and he instantly gets 1shot
while im just sitting there getting hit for like half my hp
robust widget
the longer the fight the more powerful it gets and its max stacked at 15 stacks
oblique trail
Also if you're looking at M+, then Brand is very inconsistent there depending on your group and dungeon
And it can easily do negative damage if not managed
modest condor
signet brand scales exponentially with stacks
if you're unlucky with procs or the fight is short it could do no damage
onyx mantle
I mean heroic raid bosses I'm doing like 1 percent
modest condor
and then next pull you get 10 procs in the first 1.5 minutes and it does 8% of your damage
oblique trail
Heroic bosses except Fyrakk really don't last that long
Tindral only lasts as long as he does because half the time you spend just flying
onyx mantle
Fair enough. Still worth using? Over the others?
robust widget
friendship ended with signet
rotund steppe
... ignored
modest condor
rotund steppe
;_;
oblique trail
Is my kill timers which I usually have roughly around anyway
The only fight I'd consider Brand if I cared enough would be Fyrakk
robust widget
http://puu.sh/JXCyz/b124fa478e.png
ajo that IV doing big dam
modest condor
you know it
onyx mantle
Fair enough. Thank you for letting me know. Might go back to using my branch lol
modest condor
just casually having 20% of my damage from outside sources and i dont even have lego yet
and mastery is still our best stat
secondaries are cursed man
robust widget
oblique trail
Can't wait to feel the DH treatment again
half my breakdown isn't even me doing damage
modest condor
i guess 20% damage from outside sources is basically like having 80% enrage uptime
onyx mantle
Can't wait to feel the DH treatment again
We are over tuned?? Since when??
oblique trail
Since never
modest condor
and 80% enrage uptime is still high by old standards
oblique trail
That would be funny wouldn't it
modest condor
dont think fury has ever been overtuned since i started playing again
robust widget
where can i order wish-changes for fury? i have an order for onehanders being able to be mogged on twohanders ty
molten relic
half my breakdown isn't even me doing damage
Bruh bfa last patch
clever path
necro fury was really strong on st and sustained cleave but was never the best
molten relic
The slappers from the fist weps
clever path
still to this day idk why they gutted it
molten relic
Plus infinite stars
wet notch
where can i order wish-changes for fury? i have an order for onehanders being ab...
Yesss
modest condor
necro fury was really strong on st and sustained cleave but was never the best
not really on sustain aoe, whirlwind didnt generate enough rage to keep banner uptime
modest condor
it was like a perfect circumstances patchwerk kind of thing
pretty useless in real content
clever path
and they still gutted it
modest condor
yep
modest condor
i survived 9.0 fury
robust widget
holy despair
modest condor
not sure about that one
modest condor
we had an execute niche in a tier where you couldnt make use of it
modest condor
and it was not 30% behind arms on st
oblique trail
And in Sepulcher Fury was still good as well for both raid and m+
molten relic
Was such a fucked boss
clever path
it wasnt 30% but it was very behind
robust widget
cant wait for 11.0 when we're at -50% haste und 5% mastery again
modest condor
me on my 6/10 warrior getting top 10 boss damage as venthyr fury competing with arms warriors who had mythic jaithys and ows
robust widget
SLG
modest condor
venthyr on sire
oblique trail
Sylvanas was definitely a meme scenario for Fury, but regardless I would definitely not call it dogshit in 9.1 and forward
modest condor
felt so bad when we had it on farm and remornia dropped below 80%
molten relic
Yup
modest condor
but then i swapped to nightfae anyway
robust widget
Nightfae bis cant change my mind
molten relic
The haste buff always went off during intermission
modest condor
council is the single worst boss i have ever progged
modest condor
The haste buff always went off during intermission
i played different soulbind because of that
molten relic
Ngl
modest condor
council of blood
molten relic
Council, slg, KT and fatescribe
modest condor
kt was definitely bad, fatescribe had a dumb gimmick but at least during the boss phases it was just a normal fight
summer quail
Did you prog slg
modest condor
i progged slg after most of the fixes and nerfs
modest condor
so yeah i know that it was most likely worse than council of blood, i just didnt prog it in that state
molten relic
But council was bad the entire time
clever path
i wish the nine was like
molten relic
At least after fixed slg was tolerable
clever path
idk why people eye of the jailer
summer quail
Fair, wish i didnt prog slg. Tho it was just a few days then we called the tier
molten relic
Would just truck
clever path
sure sometimes you had to hold for the other side but still it was a fine boss
modest condor
a lot of people say that cn is one of the best raids ever, but imo it only had 2 great fights, 3 ok fights and the rest was just not fun
molten relic
KT and fatescribe were the worst
summer quail
Eye is okay
molten relic
a lot of people say that cn is one of the best raids ever, but imo it only had 2...
Nathria wasn’t a bad tier overall
And sire/sludge just kinda carried it
Tbh
modest condor
yeah sire and sludge
molten relic
But it had good progression
modest condor
shriekwing, huntsman and hungering destroyer were ok
the rest was just despair
i guess inerva wasnt so much despair as it was just a failed idea
the mythic strat was to ignore the mythic mechanic
clever path
sepulcher drained me the most
summer quail
a lot of people say that cn is one of the best raids ever, but imo it only had 2...
Nah no way cn is that good. Tho sludge did own. Didnt do sire but he seemed great as well but that's it
lean heart
this thing claps
modest condor
sepulcher drained me the most
we hit most of the difficult bosses post nerf so we ended up doing pretty well
halondrus got the 30 second bombs nerf while we were progging p2
anduin already had most of its hard mechanics nerfed like 3 times
i dont remember if we killed rygelon when it still had 4 adds or when it had 3 adds
and we were progging jailer p2 when they did the big nerfs
acoustic furnace
this thing claps
My favorite thing about this season so far has been the 600k+ Bloodbath crits
Instant dopamine
clever path
sepulcher was a demon raid
lean heart
EV last boss 1.5mil bloodbath
clever path
imagine going halondrus->anduin->lords (a short break)->rygelon->jailer
acoustic furnace
EV last boss 1.5mil bloodbath <:xan:1094127979703062558>
Idk these feel like they don't count
clever path
ive never seen so many guilds disband
modest condor
and lihuvim may not have been hard but it was a clusterfuck
summer quail
Wish i played sepulcher. Mostly for rygelon
clever path
and lihuvim may not have been hard but it was a clusterfuck
yep
tepid shore
I've finally gotten my axe quest drop.
clever path
same
tepid shore
tepid shore
Do what I do any just drink during heroic raid.l
and then all of a sudden it'll appear.
modest condor
iwill get my axe tomorrow fo sho
and then i can spend the rest of the week despairing about the quest
modest condor
sorry cant celebrate new years i have to do my quest
silent burrow
rygelon best boss
Tf? Halondrus
still swift
Tf? Azshara
modest condor
hot take, halondrus fucking sucked
silent burrow
Hottest
still swift
hot take, halondrus fucking sucked
agree
proud crown
I liked Ra-den
silent burrow
Condemn on halondrus was full engagement of brane
modest condor
anduin > yailer > rygelon > every other boss in sepulcher except dausegne > halondrus > dausegne
silent burrow
Until you had gear
modest condor
ok on mythic ill accept it
clever path
spell reflecting the ball when he rolls down from the wall was funny
silent burrow
It was great aside from the time gating once everyone was blasting
clever path
yep
silent burrow
Idk you still were able to overkill it on mythic
They learned from that when they made assault thankfully
modest condor
if your rl made you stop dps so you could throw the 2nd core he had issues
silent burrow
Being able to just crank was cool
And being able to reflect the shit on the ground was tight
silent burrow
Get dunked bozo
wanton mirage
rotund steppe
cuz shes a target dummy
plush ice
is anyone holding CD's on tinderal for the 2nd add set? we're just starting it, and OF isn't up yet between first set and second set
summer quail
does igira have more health then volecross
Snek undertuned
rotund steppe
Alright lost another heroic signet
lmao i havent even seen a heroic signet
then i miss a week
3 drop
jovial rover
Offered 100k to an undergeared mpluser pally he said no
rotund steppe
mf know its worth
jovial rover
I got a normal signet and heroic smold sword since raid started.
dire vigil
Try going downtown instead
hexed lotus
do we know if fyrakk axe any good or no
clever path
well its 496
ilvl
its obviously bis
the dot also does good damage
active is w/e
hexed lotus
ok cool cool i almost have it done and i didn't wantto waste so much time and money XD
acoustic furnace
im struggling to get augury lol
Might of The Ocean doesnt sim TOO terribly far behind.
silk wharf
Who started this leggo axe is bad misinfo? Ive heard it a lot lately. like, of course a weapon thats higher ilvl with two effects is good.
I assume its some streamer
young swan
me
cause it is
not misinfo, its just not a very good orange item
especially when we've been balanced around it
sullen dove
small osprey
on use feels like super mega trash
keen kindle
Not good when we get passed up
Twice for balancing
because of a legendary half of us won't see till fuckin s4
covert blaze
maybe next week haha...
summer quail
Who started this leggo axe is bad misinfo? Ive heard it a lot lately. like, of c...
For a leggo it's underwhelming
clever path
surely we get to take the leggo with the token in s4
edgy widget
For a leggo it's underwhelming
underwhelming doesn't really mean bad though
summer quail
underwhelming doesn't really mean bad though
True, it's still a pretty good upgrade over a 489
hollow elk
i kinda understand tho. its a legendary.
should be something good beyond being higher ilvl
sudden tusk
True, it's still a pretty good upgrade over a 489
when im losing by less to 10k to rank ones
its a big feels bad
hollow elk
they could have easily just made it an extremely rare drop from fyrakk and a purple
also wouldve been cool if it interacted with one of our skills like the draktyr lego did
like make our charge do a shit ton of dmg or w.e
sullen dove
true and real as fuck
on use should just be tacked onto charge once every 2:30
altho might be a "little" sus
for a 500k instance of damage the instant you charge into a boss
beacon aggro rip all over again
sudden tusk
heres how it works im gonna be sad until i get then then neutral that i have it
which means how you obtain it sucks
should have been you get x per week and every difficulty above lfr tyou get more of x per week
so the higher content you do the faster you get it
sullen dove
sad dont have > mad have to grind hours of dogshit pointless content > then finally you may rest with the actual item
and then get to experience the suffering of using the on use in random situations
will b exciting to feel what its like surely
sullen tendon
is this enough garbage purples for the legendary
spiral oasis
Oh yeah, we are NOT getting invited to keys this week
coarse gorge
so was looking at the wowhead at the bis list but I noticed on the stat prio page it says that we might go haste crit at like 489~ ilvl do we have a tru bis to reflect that or is that outdated?
summer quail
Just sim yourself
plush flower
edgy widget
so was looking at the wowhead at the bis list but I noticed on the stat prio pag...
once you're bis there is no stat prio, since your stats aren't going to get any higher, but
sullen dove
but gems
edgy widget
the page actually says in high gear to prio Mastery / Versatility, due to haste falling off ~25ish%
summer quail
its a big feels bad
Big tru. It is what it is
urban tapir
but gems <:xan:1094127979703062558>
gems n tertiddies
coarse gorge
well I can't argue with the guy who I'm referencing
edgy widget
it really just depends on what gear you're using at the time
sullen dove
raid bots should b able to account for exact independent gem combinations, like full bis you go 2 verse/mast 3 mast/verse 1 crit/mast etc
squeeeeze that dam
vague sand
60dps gain
coarse gorge
though I will say that whilst you've remembered correctly it definitely mentions the haste drop off there is too lines below that where you state "At the very highest levels of gear, Haste and Critical Strike may begin to pull ahead again due to Mastery and Versatility experiencing heavy diminishing returns."
sullen dove
dont think topgear can do anything but every gem is the same kind and you just swap what kind, tho maybe gear compare would do that fine since u can choose those
pain in the ass tho fo sho
edgy widget
And the vast majority of people won't actually get bis, so it's kind of meaningless - even if you're the same ilevel, using different gear with different stats will result in different priorities (e.g. I'm like 486, but pretty low on haste compared to what might be "ideal")
coarse gorge
but you've answered my question I'll just aim for the list
sullen dove
graceful wyvern
hey guys quick question, what is the best stat % for fury crit-haste-mastery-vers
sullen dove
i WILL obtain every item on the bis list
edgy widget
though I will say that whilst you've remembered correctly it definitely mentions...
that statement is a caveat, meaning "if you stack a shit load of mastery/vers at the highest levels, you might see the other stats creep back up again"
graceful wyvern
like how much crit haste mastery vers i want
coarse gorge
ahhhhhh
vague sand
50% on everything
edgy widget
because remember, every stat change is a tradeoff
coarse gorge
okay okay that makes far more sense
sullen dove
hey guys quick question, what is the best stat % for fury crit-haste-mastery-ver...
sim on raidbots
coarse gorge
yeah I get you now archi makes perfect sense now
sullen dove
but just ballpark around 25-30% haste good and then look more towards mast/verse, should pick up decent amount of crit on the way
edgy widget
but in general, just follow sims 😆
worldly shard
is this enough garbage purples for the legendary
I actually played wow for 3yrs now and only recently discovered u can expand bank by putting bags inside
Im evolving
sullen tendon
I actually played wow for 3yrs now and only recently discovered u can expand ban...
tf
how did you survive with like 8 bag slots
worldly shard
So now im just collecting mounts inside my mains bank
Once i have 100 ill redeem all
sullen tendon
you didnt ever ask anyone how to expand bag slots?
graceful wyvern
but just ballpark around 25-30% haste good and then look more towards mast/verse...
gooddd rn im at 21%crit 32%haste 56%mast 20%vers
sullen tendon
you never looked it up?
worldly shard
you didnt ever ask anyone how to expand bag slots?
I just bought slots and thought "thats it?"
sullen dove
gooddd rn im at 21%crit 32%haste 56%mast 20%vers
yea i mean thats prolly decent, nothing way out of whack it looks like just sim around gear in your bags for more optimal gems and shit
sullen tendon
i dont use my bank really
worldly shard
Didnt think about putting bags inside
sullen tendon
i just toss legendaries and unobtainable stuff in there
worldly shard
Well i used my alt inventories as storage
graceful wyvern
yea i mean thats prolly decent, nothing way out of whack it looks like just sim ...
good ths for advice !
worldly shard
So now i have big ass bank vaults
Idk how much gold id have in boe's / materials tbf
Since i have 4 alts full of boe's
And my mains bank is for currency / mounts
sullen dove
like.. bonus mounts?
worldly shard
I just collect mounts and then redeem once i collect a certain amount
So now goal is to bank 100
sullen dove
worldly shard
Then redeem
sullen dove
uh fel eggs like from antorus?
worldly shard
Y
sullen dove
yea just uh... i dont remember if its fel eggs or another one of those drop chance things, but you should def open 1 egg at a time and learn the mount if it drops one
cuz i dont think it will dupe if you have it already learned
i could be misassociating that mechanic with something else tho
o no its necro rays for sure that worked like that
idk if they do too, best to just check up wowhead and make sure you dont just giga waste them if its possible
worldly shard
I just did 1000 coalescence / 3rings / 100k overflow / 1000 magmotes / zenet rare / 20item combine mammoth from dreamsurge / sabellian+wrathion rep and around 100x raid lockouts past few days
remote tulip
what phials do we use are we still using vers bc on raidbots its saying corruption rage
worldly shard
Got the ancient salamanther aswell after 110tries
sullen dove
corrupting is a few hundred more dps usually but only use if you think youre like.. comfy with it
and its also just definitely bad on like smolderon
worldly shard
o no its necro rays for sure that worked like that
They dont dupe but mount is like 5%
Else is pets/trash
sullen dove
yea
worldly shard
Sitting at 240mounts rn going for 500 till next expansion hits
Shouldnt be that hard
worldly shard
SL+BFA gets me close to 500
sullen dove
sullen dove
usually ones that say quest/rep/vendor/treasure are good things to look for knocking out early since they're typically easy
achieves are also sorta in that category tho like half of them in every xpac is dungeon/raid glory
worldly shard
Im just doing weeklies/callings in SL for rep/anima/offerings and doing korthia aswell whilst killing the rares
And protoform synthesis atm
sullen dove
worldly shard
Covenants are revered atleast, only exalted in ZM
sullen dove
shadowlands dailies.... dont miss that....
molten relic
I didn’t even do korthia when it was current lmao
worldly shard
And the relic one
molten relic
Was CE on war and didn’t even have the sockets unlocked
molten relic
Tower ranger on day one it was available
molten relic
Then they nerfed it to oblivion 
sullen dove
required
worldly shard
And all other expansions ill just do Lorewalker via timewalking for reps and shit
Need to do this first tho
remote tulip
you guys ever pull a steady 180-190k dps at 484 IL?
vale elk
do you hold cds on smolderon for the damage amp or nah
calm mantle
summer quail
do you hold cds on smolderon for the damage amp or nah
Nah
vale elk
coo
remote tulip
U should be simming like 215k at 484 without leggo
i have leggo....lol
nah i pull usually steady 190-200k
just patchwerk for 5m fights
worldly shard
Im 482 and sim 214k without leggo atm, leggo is another +13k dps for me
summer quail
do you hold cds on smolderon for the damage amp or nah
Watch critcake video on smolderon for timings
worldly shard
And i do 190K ish ST on logs
worldly shard
It depends on kill timer and buffs
Like if ur missing monk buff ur missing 5% dos
Dps
And so on
remote tulip
ok so that 229k dps is mainly buffed with everything including PI
is there a way to sim it unbuffed?
summer quail
Yes. Just undo the boxes
remote tulip
okay
white cedar
why is there so many fury wars running dragons roar over spear now for ST?
clever path
they cba playing spear
troar is like
1k dps behind or something
assuming full utilization of elysian might
white cedar
ahhh ok
summer quail
Ye it's very minor. Except on smolderon it's big
remote tulip
why is there so many fury wars running dragons roar over spear now for ST?
just found that out today lol
white cedar
ahh ok thank you for the info
young swan
why is there so many fury wars running dragons roar over spear now for ST?
what bosses
white cedar
all the way up to smol
dapper jacinth
summer quail
all the way up to smol
Not all of those are st bosses
summer quail
is there a WA for meatcleaver?
jovial rover
is there a WA for meatcleaver?
basic wa
silk wharf
is there a WA for meatcleaver?
Super easy to make. im sure its one of the templates available. just make it the size and position you want. shouldnt take more than 30 seconds.
jovial rover
do it
silk wharf
Almost all my auras are simply templates available by default in WA
click, click, size/position, done.
jovial rover
Icon -> buff spell name
static nest
wait you can reflect transfusion if you dont get the dot?
why is that not listed in the docs ;_;
final birch
static nest
does it not negate the healing?
summer quail
Reflecting transfusion does do damage. Not nearly as much as the puddle would tho
inner zinc
Are catalyst charges gonna be every other week for the rest of the season? Or are they planning on making it every week?
slim coral
can they just release the nerfs that kill tindral already
covert blaze
skill issue
bronze trench
for simming M+, do you use dungeon slice?
clever path
st and change the trinkets
bronze trench
cause ive got [Cataclysmic Signet Brand] but I dont think it does that much in m+ since it falls off so often....
bronze trench
st as in patchwerk?
bronze trench
yea
clever path
what trinkets do you have
ideally you'd want an on use + passive something like might of the ocean + augury
or might + crab
bronze trench
what trinkets do you have
clever path
butchers block should be good you can sim 5t 5minutes
bronze trench
using ocean+signet rn in m+
clever path
you can also farm ember from brh
bronze trench
butchers block should be good you can sim 5t 5minutes
1 target, 5m fight?
clever path
5t 5m to see if you get any value from crit
bronze trench
ok
bronze trench
sim results lol, which is what i use
sudden tusk
branch just does dam
clever path
i'd use butchers block until crab
bronze trench
damn
bronze trench
if i sim patch, 5t 2m i get this....
clever path
yeah signet is ass in m+ randomly falls off half the time
its not ass if you can keep it up on tyra weeks
bronze trench
yup. harder than anvil to maintain uptime
bronze trench
did 950 on iridikron on a 21 Fall 😐
clever path
clever path
block+ocean does seem more logical for M+ tho
signet is just cringe
its annoying
anvil wasnt nearly as bad
anvil you could recast and reset
the timer
bronze trench
signet is just cringe
i dont even think its doing that much dmg in heroic raid...bosses are dying after like 3.5/4.5 minutes
true
bronze trench
i used to spam attack the training dummies in freehold
rocky salmon
totaly new on fury, what should be my main dmg source with 4 set in a key? bloodbath or rampage`?
silk wharf
Bloodbath
bronze trench
^
silk wharf
i think by a mile.
rocky salmon
thankies, tested a bit on dummys and have currently rampage topdog
means i need to focus more on the procc right
silk wharf
Always spend the bloodbath before making a new one, yes.
rocky salmon
fair play, what is avarage numbers we achive in a key?
dmg overall i mean
so i have sort of a pointer what to achive
i know ofc its depending on key too
pastel hawk
depends on how tank pulls too
rocky salmon
not to big
rocky salmon
usally in pug szenarios tanks dont go too crazy
sullen dove
thats surely not.. patchwerk 5 minute
sullen dove
clever path
even still no way no buffs is like -60k dps from what he should be doing
how
180k seems ok considering he got no buffs at all
sullen dove
idk i may be like, wildly underestimating buffs but like that cant be real, 5% from monk, 3% verse druid, i guess wft?, and presumably ret aura only buffs that like... affect us
silk wharf
yea, just shout ahs me at 170 in aoe spec. Seems about on par.
yea, they are low key huge
sullen dove
like 5% of 180k is 9k added with monk buff, but i think each of those other things is worth way less than 5% monk buff
sullen dove
uh yea
slim coral
where at
silk wharf
hits us with echo
silk wharf
lol
sullen dove
behind the curve just chill lil guild on this DEAD ass server
slim coral
uh... not any real like "name brand" guild
are any guilds really name brand except 2
sullen dove
but king of trash mountain w
silk wharf
King of the castle
sullen dove
eh its like, mainstream name brand and more just hof-type guild name brand
slim coral
eh its like, mainstream name brand and more just hof-type guild name brand
Join poptart corndog
clever path
are any guilds really name brand except 2
depends i guess
slim coral
sullen dove
sullen dove
like liquid/echo/method obv the more well known types that fall into former, but the latter is stuff like consequence/honestly/vesper/poptart shit like that
no insane big public image from them but they're just always there popping off
clever path
real
summer quail
like liquid/echo/method obv the more well known types that fall into former, but...
idk, poptart is pretty well known coz of dratnose
sullen dove
yea ig drat was like big outlier there
the rest is like, no one rly watches them raid but decent amount of em have big mplus players people watch
sullen dove
never heard of em tbh but this is epic
clever path
they dont even do ptr or any sort of raid testing
sullen dove
slim coral
I'm gonna stream prog soon
sullen dove
big
clever path
they are insane
clever path
project raids 12 hours a week and is world rank 17
its insane cause wr 50 guilds raid for more
just cracked players
pallid idol
hey fellas I’m just returning after a break and I can’t seem to find this answer - having pushed high keys in the past and mythic raided im trying to catch up asap to my group - with the amount of crafting you can do now is it worth to craft gear and turn it into tier? Is that even a thing?
bronze trench
hey fellas I’m just returning after a break and I can’t seem to find this answer...
cant do that
remote tulip
thats surely not.. patchwerk 5 minute
I’ll have to re-sim later
pallid idol
cant do that
Thank you.
bronze trench
crafted gear cant be turned into tier
remote tulip
even still no way no buffs is like -60k dps from what he should be doing
I mean pretty sure it would be 180-190k dps yeah?
rocky salmon
is there a nice WA maybe for Bloodbath proccs?
pallid idol
does it not just proc after every rampage ?
gilded pawn
Sometimes you forget
rocky salmon
aye but would be nice to get a notification
rocky salmon
like as prot i get sound notification for revange proccs
sullen dove
I mean pretty sure it would be 180-190k dps yeah?
I guess it can idk buffs in my mind is like worth 10% of damage
guess it a bit more
clever path
<@456226577798135808> recraft, gem swap 😮
i wouldnt do that
remote tulip
I guess it can idk buffs in my mind is like worth 10% of damage <:critcake:98454...
Yeah I mean it does seem right sometimes raidbots can be a bit buggy
eternal sundial
That's like not even 1%
clever path
yep
bronze trench
was 4% more vers
clever path
the way i sim for m+ and pretty muc heveryone is just
st sim
then equip different trinkets
like might/crab/block/pips/ember
w/e
augury
eternal sundial
Ig also drop brand for might
clever path
ye st sim and change trinkets
eternal sundial
I have this crit mast sockie avoid 489 and i cope i can use it
So i equip it in keys
clever path
bronze trench
why was recrafting/gem swap not worth it @clever path ??
clever path
is it a dps loss on st sims
bronze trench
im simming it rn lmao
eternal sundial
Im also raidbrained but id always start with st sim
bronze trench
i lost 5% haste getting that mastery LOL
bronze trench
yea my aoe in m+ aint it.
clever path
ret
idk i top on st
and get blasted on trash by havoc
but i blast on st
so its fine
bronze trench
yup
clever path
db bc gaming
bronze trench
rework wen?
bronze trench
xD
proud crown
bronze trench
confirmed or a dream?
clever path
im not gonna lie
ive never seen
this in my entire life
demo lock has more 20+ runs than fury
fury has always been one of the most popular specs
doomed season i guess
havoc mage aug
fiery harbor
what are some of the things in ur fury rework wishlist
bronze trench
hmph
bronze trench
swaped a ring that was crit vers, to a ring thats haste/vers. 25% crit and 25% haste now
fiery harbor
nice
eternal sundial
Haste addicts...
clever path
21% haste gameplay is not fun <:critcake:984549832511344640>
reckless abandon gameplay isnt fun
no am sucks so hard
in m+
and the fact that we have no alternative sucks even more
you kill a pack have like 40 seconds left till cds
havoc has all cds
mage has all cds
high quest
And here is me swapping from frost to fury
ashen socket
23 Everbloom, Not too bad could have done better without the wipe
noble elm
Where do you find these good augs
bronze trench
21 fall........
noble elm
Every aug I run into does 20k dps and doesn’t cast half their spells
bronze trench
😢
covert blaze
Lock ur meters
fr
covert blaze
Even the mw was pumping
clever path
real
round geyser
Can we use this item in conjunction with a two hander? Gholak, the Final Conflagration
summer quail
you can ye, i wouldn't tho unless your offhand is bad
clever path
ik there was a way to check load on individual weak auras
fiery harbor
reckless abandon gameplay isnt fun
yup, and annahilator too.
i also hate how many trap talents there are as fury. for example the two warrior tree thunder clap talents are just bait if youre fury. but at least they will have some purpose next xpac if youre going mountain thane. also shockwave being a bottom row talent is ridiculous. single minded fury is just taking up space for something that could actually be cool and interesting simply because blizz refuses to let fury mog 2h into 1h and finally silve this entire SMF fantasy for good.
fiery harbor
anni is w/e
no, because theres like 2-3 raging blow talents which do absolutely nothing if you spec annahilator. like the extra charge ones
clever path
i mean
snow edge
That's called opportunity cost
snow edge
You can't have everything all the time
snow edge
Sounds like you want a talent tree that has viable nodes for every single spec
fiery harbor
Sounds like you want a talent tree that has viable nodes for every single spec
i dont want talents to make other talents completely useless
snow edge
SMF related nodes are really the only completely redundant ones, because the only time you'd ever take them is if you for some reason didn't have 2h'ers; but they've mentioned several times that simply make 2h'ers mog into 1h'ers isn't as easy as it sounds, due to coding issues
kindred notch
guys how much we need for craft legendry?
clever path
guys how much we need for craft legendry?
token-ish
snow edge
i dont want talents to make other talents completely useless
That is how it works my friend - when you funnel into one spec, other nodes become useless, but that is fine because you have a finite amount of points anyway
clever path
depends on the server
kindred notch
eu
pure breach
Well depends on the server
clever path
meant realm
kindred notch
kazzak
pure breach
Hmmmm idk
pure breach
I wasted like 800k on Twisting Nether
But 1st week
Now that pretty much everyone has it
Shouldn’t be that much
kindred notch
we shoud complete a lot of qust ?
pure breach
Yes
kindred notch
i think 1 day
rocky salmon
since avatar and recklessness is now 1.5min cd all the time are we macroing it and use em both right behind?
(roar also in it?)
mystic fractal
Similar question, is Might just macro'd onto Avatar?
subtle lagoon
Macro might into reck
clever path
since avatar and recklessness is now 1.5min cd all the time are we macroing it a...
no
assuming full st with no ww talents
reck->charge->ramp->odyns->spear/roar->bb->ramp->bb->avatar+ramp->bb
if you are playing with on use
you want to
reck->charge->ramp->on-use + odyns->spear/roar->bb->ramp->bb->avatar+ramp->bb
rocky salmon
cheers