fury

[wild mural]

noooooo

No I need my SMF

[bronze zephyr]

surely the talents will be baseline 😄

[idle osprey]

Leveling is rather quick too

[wild mural]

I know

[hasty path]

[wild mural]

this

[sinful spoke]

manifesting the opposite of this image tomorrow

[subtle lagoon]

[thorn oriole]

a coach just advice me to use recklesness & avatar at the same time

[subtle lagoon]

[thorn oriole]

can someone enlight me

[subtle lagoon]

Like, before charge? Surely not

[thorn oriole]

after charge

[idle osprey]

Do I ever wanna hold any CDs, or just use em all asap?

[subtle lagoon]

Honestly, can do that as long as you don't instantly use OF after

but it's not optimal

since you're not utilizing bloodborne for the cdr

[restive peak]

Get your money back then

[thorn oriole]

Charge -> Reckless -> Ravage -> OF -> BB > AVatar >

[subtle lagoon]

Wait we talking s2 tier?

[restive peak]

Ravager shouldn’t exist anymore

[thorn oriole]

rampage*

sry

the guys just confused me

he did the opposite of his job

[subtle lagoon]

If you do reck before charge, you get more rage out of charge

[thorn oriole]

what is the cleanest opener

[subtle lagoon]

Probably reck - charge - ramp - OF - bb+ramp for 4 seconds - avatar

[idle osprey]

20 ToTT, Timed but my weapons have a big Ilvl gap. Is that the cause of this, or is my rotation off?

[modest condor]

you forgor an ability there

[eternal sundial]

seems like skill issue ngl

[modest condor]

i dont think bloodthirst should be only 0.9% of your damage

[eternal sundial]

also reflect turbo low

for TOTT

[unreal onyx]

I think they used bt as slam replacement

and not spammed it either way

[idle osprey]

Is my M+ Build off ?

[unreal onyx]

no

[modest condor]

no that looks like a normal m+ build

[atomic nymph]

+23 christmas pug joy

[summer bobcat]

that rogue is diasbled

[atomic nymph]

That was just one boss, this is overall

[plucky ice]

bros got carried

[summer bobcat]

okay so he's mentally challenged

[modest condor]

the sub-200k andies have alreaedy infiltrated +23s?

[plucky ice]

had a feral do 45k in 18

big damma

[modest condor]

eh

[plucky ice]

dont know how

[modest condor]

with how easy dungeons are this season an 18 is a baby key

[summer bobcat]

i do 30k with warr

[modest condor]

cant expect anything in there

[vernal night]

is it Vers>mast?

[plucky ice]

yea it was just an alt key

[past pivot]

Stats depend pn your gear. Sim yourself

[atomic nymph]

Haste 25% > Mastery (to about 5k- ish) > Vers

After that everything basically equals out

[half cargo]

Uh oh

[final eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-seethe-copium-gif-4530870914968371816

[eternal sundial]

ye and hunters incapable of pressing turtle entire key

xmas pugs are wild

[cosmic lance]

i've had more issues with people that either don't know what to kick, or just dont seem to have it bound tbh

or tanks that think they're Dorki and pull double what they can manage

[cursive quiver]

I've struggled with healers not knowing how to heal the last few days.

[eternal sundial]

or not pressing wall and getting oneshot by last boss BRH

[cosmic lance]

Also nobody knows how to do yazma apparently

LIke it's just a meme at this point

You get to her with 14 minutes left and still somehow brick the key

[narrow narwhal]

follow the spider mom

[sour frigate]

Spiders are awful

[vale dove]

All I want for Christmas are fury buffs

[past pivot]

You might see more axe adjustments, not class buffs for a while.

[true sapphire]

Axe adjustment; adjust to my inventory. 8)

[vale dove]

Blizz not helping 2h classes out because of lego

Sadge

[past pivot]

Just get one. That's how Blizz is helping 2hand clases.

[vale dove]

just loot it 4head

[true sapphire]

Sorry brain hasn't been working this patch, will loot tomorrow night for sure.

[unreal onyx]

my christmas present was a greater ember

[vale dove]

I do wish they would be less elusive about these embers

Like what is the base chance % and how much does a lesser and greater increase said chance

[past pivot]

good luck with that

[unreal onyx]

0% and 0.0%

from my experience so far

[sinful spoke]

whats the script to check how many i got

[vale dove]

Lesser ember increases by 0.1% greater by 0.5% feels good

Seems pretty oof to balance classes around a lego though

[unreal onyx]

+1 social credit

[sinful spoke]

i get mine

tomorrow

right

?

[vale dove]

You got the best weapon in the game spend weeks killing fyrakk and grinding out the quest now you can be as good as every other non 2h strength class 😄

[past pivot]

Agreed but then they'd have to adjust with and without and we know they wouldn't do that.

[unreal onyx]

but then we'll finally be somewhat equal

(at least DPS-wise)

[vale dove]

sure but gating a class being equal behind something that could take months to get

is pretty shit

I dont see a problem a class thats got a legendary doing more damage than most classes because of that legendary

actually makes it feel good to get

[unreal onyx]

shadowmourne moment

i didn't play in wotlk

was it actually a big gain and classes did more dmg with it than others?

[cosmic lance]

From memory warriors sucked in raid anyway. At least ours did

[vale dove]

Shadowmourne went to ret palas

[wild mural]

my god

[past pivot]

It was also much harder to obtain and only a few select few actually had it when it mattered. Most got it afterward

[wild mural]

is DH just dumbass easy

[vale dove]

its not

but its dumbass easy to beat any class

[vale dove]

Press immolate and glaive tempest on cooldown in m+ and u can win

But playing DH well is another thing

[wild mural]

wowhead build doesn't take glaive tempest 🤔

[vale dove]

in m+ you take GT now

no longer take Fel Barrage

In ST/Raid you dont no u take EssB

my main is DH

[fathom wolf]

16 year old cousin started playing wow early November. Picked up DH 3 weeks ago and installed that hekili add on. Now has 90+ parses on every fight in heroic and the first two mythic fights. It can't be that hard.

[vale dove]

has been whole of Dragonflight

i mean its not hard to get 90% parses on heroic + first 2

Hekili will play the game for you

same way it will every class

it wont be optimal

but itl get you 90%

[past pivot]

DH is the easiest melee class and one of the easiest classses overall. Their 4P makes it even more simple. Anyone telling you otherwise has never played DH or mains a DH

[vale dove]

nah

Furys much easier

[past pivot]

No, not even close.

[vale dove]

so is Arms, Outlaw

Honestly playing DH well isn't down to its rotation though

[past pivot]

Outlaw? Law off the edibles dude. It's Xmas morning.

[vale dove]

needing to use abilities like Fel Rush and Momentum as core rotational abilities

[wild mural]

nah this is fucking dumb

[vale dove]

is what makes DH hard in raid

[wild mural]

this is so ez

[vale dove]

in M+ i agree

its very easy

[wild mural]

idc about raid, honestly

that's what my warrior is for

[vale dove]

in M+ sure you just spam GT and Immolate

make sure ur stood on the pack when rage fire explodes

and make sure your using inertia optimally

I still think furys easier though

[wild mural]

wait wtf build do you go then

cause there's the build with intertia and no gt, and vice versa

[vale dove]

in m+ you either go GT or Essence Break

its personal preference

Essence Break gives more prio damage and better on bosses

GT more cleave/pad

[wild mural]

hm ok

so essence break would be better this week

[vale dove]

sure if your ethical

im a padder so take GT 😂

[wild mural]

Im highly unethical

[vale dove]

sorry that build was wrong

[marble goblet]

Yea no rage fire

[vale dove]

You swap serrated glaive with ragefire

but yer theres so many fotm rerollers on DH atm itl be in the dumpster soon, its already mid in raids/st again

happened last season too

[left perch]

Syi is purple it’s a Christmas miracle

[wild mural]

Syi plays fuckin everything

[halcyon birch]

I can't see how any class could be easier than fury. It's literally 3 buttons 1 big cd and one small cd

[vale dove]

Swapping off that shit now though

[fickle bluff]

the parses still wont be

[vale dove]

fed up of people telling me to stop fel rushing around

when I literally need to as my rotation

😂

[wild mural]

bro u didnt have to do me like that

[vale dove]

😂

[oblique trail]

I played DH all of Vault, and other tiers in previous expacs, and it's a bit disingenuous to call it the "easiest" melee or overall

[indigo quarry]

specially when fury exists

[heavy flax]

i always thought fury was the easiest melee but i'm maining dh right now

[oblique trail]

Some people would genuinely struggle playing DH

[indigo quarry]

DH need to use their brain to not kill themself dashing around

[heavy flax]

would be maining fury if not for the guild though

[oblique trail]

Would be maining rogue if I didn't make a last minute decision the week before 10.2 dropped

gg you know why

[still raft]

no way dh is more brain off than fury (or probably arms too but i havent touched that spec in years i just assume)

[oblique trail]

Haven't played DH this or last season so I can't really speak for it now, but it to me wasn't difficult but nor was it just no brain easy to play either

[keen moon]

What about ret?

[oblique trail]

But this is the thing that it basically goes for any spec or class (with varying degrees), and is very personal

[still raft]

fair

mainly thinking along the lines of it being a lot squishier you need to pay a bit more attention to not get yourself killed. but i could be totally wrong

[oblique trail]

If you play momentum, the thing that'll kill you the most is you dashing the wrong way or at the wrong time

Havoc otherwise is pretty tanky

[heavy flax]

i just came back to the game but yeah dh isn't difficult it just has a strict 5 second burst window every 40 seconds and if you mess that up or misalign cds your dps drops a decent bit

[clever path]

fury is the same except its every 1:30

[wild mural]

just press all ur buttons as hard as u can

[past pivot]

My take is that you could take someone new to the game, drop them into DH and they could pick up the class and spec quickly and do well quickly. Moreso than other most other classes. Fury would be in that argument as well. Maybe not master all the nuances but the majority of the people who play the game are closer to those in the first camp.

[eternal sundial]

Especially it you are new youd troll hard with dh moment

[vale dove]

Momentums dead

[still raft]

didnt play s2 but came back this season grabbed ksm and now im debating what other class i want to play for a bit

[oblique trail]

If you look at the average player, then you'd see it's not the case

[vale dove]

But we play Inertia now which is basically the same

[oblique trail]

Fair, as mentioned I haven't played this or last season so didn't know if Inertia just overtook it (which it should have)

Inertia is basically what Momentum should have been

[vale dove]

Thats the same for any class though

[heavy flax]

dh is gonna suck hard if you don't wanna dash and backflip everywhere. the no moving build is only like 5% behind, but it falls off really hard in aoe/cleave

[oblique trail]

I played no mover once back in Vault

what a mistake

[vale dove]

and its really shit in Raid and M+

it jut sims well

Seriously the hard part about DH isn't the rotation

[heavy flax]

yeah i played no mover a bit on nymue but just switched back to inertia

playing fury always makes me want to go back tho, such a fun spec

[vale dove]

Progging smoldy atm on my DH

but smoldy kinda sucks on every class

[clever path]

not on sub

[vale dove]

true

sub ignores everything

[oblique trail]

If you ignore the intermission shenanigans, it's chill on Fury

[vale dove]

Ye it seems pretty chill on fury

[oblique trail]

After a few pulls I stop minding it

[vale dove]

just delay taking orbs

and pop cds a bit earlier

and you can hit the intermission with all cds nicely

But ye if u wana top lower keys damage with no real thought in what your doing apart from just pressing what lights up in M+ DH is the one

😄

You dont need to play it anywhere optimally

to blow people out the water

[heavy flax]

i try to play gt, but man essence break just feels so much better to me in m+

true true

[clever path]

am fury is the same unfortunately its ra this patch

ra sucks

[vale dove]

just make sure your stood on mobs when ragefire blows up

[vale dove]

After the AMI nerf some people are messing around with no Ragefire and GT + Essence Break

i wouldn't recommend it though

[heavy flax]

that sounds nutty

[vale dove]

Got a feeling itl get nerfed again though

[heavy flax]

i wouldn't be surprised if it did

[vale dove]

which ironically will nerf what its currently mid at (ST)

so itl be shit in raid

[frigid zealot]

Was you guys popping in prepull?

[sinful spoke]

chat are u proud of me? this is the first time i try this hard at the game

this is the patch i get CE

[frigid zealot]

As I was doing prog last raid and the normal 130 line is during 2 shit moves

With delayed orbs

[vale dove]

are you leaping back before the knockback?

[frigid zealot]

Yeh

To the mark on floor so I soak as cds come up and run away

[vale dove]

then ye pop prepull

[frigid zealot]

Just you get move in move out move in

[vale dove]

its like 7-8seconds?

not 100% sure

[acoustic furnace]

2750 io, 484 Ilvl, and still getting insta declined from 17 keys. feelsbadman

[near gust]

maybe you are on low pop realem with a lot of competition

[acoustic furnace]

Naw it's people who think their baby keys need meta comps

[near gust]

im 482 with 2650 it and max +20 done and dont have much issue

[fickle bluff]

not how it works

[vale dove]

Cause Fury

[near gust]

might be it too, esp how easy this season is

[vale dove]

I think i get invited more to keys because i have a 3k io main though but ye

I spend alot more time getting declined as war

😄

[robust leaf]

hey guys what is the best sim options i can do patchwerek 5 bosses 3min or dungeon slice or what ?

for m+

[gilded pawn]

st

[robust leaf]

for m+ aswell ? 😮

[indigo quarry]

you just WW every 4 other ability

not really needed to dslice as fury

[vale dove]

if you wana sim m+ just do 1min 5target sim

its the closest your get

there is some mdt sim that lets you sim a route

[abstract flower]

I do 5 boss 2 min, but honestly you can just sim st and use better judgement to pick the right trinkets

[vale dove]

but meh

[untold moth]

Hoping Santa left everyone a Fyralath under the 🎄

[indigo quarry]

he cant

i shot him

because he gave me dirt

[rotund steppe]

imagine we get an ember in the tree

[abstract flower]

I hope santa leaves me a might of the ocean im getting sick of farming 18 throne im this close to getting a behavior warning

[robust leaf]

@abstract flower i'm really curious about the right trinkettes

[past pivot]

Only 18 thrones?

[abstract flower]

might of the ocean and then ember or crab for m+ and then augury or signet for st

[olive wraith]

Augury is good for m+though

[past pivot]

Might and Augury are best two for M+. Crab is a solid alternative if neither of those. Gore, Mirror, Ember also good options while you farm. Signet can be good in the right situation.

[abstract flower]

oh yeah I never actually ran the droptimizer for raid and it wont drop for me yeah im sure its good for m+

[robust leaf]

i'm playing with might of the ocean and signet atm

what is good in ember guys since it gives only 2 stats

strenght and versa

[abstract flower]

FAT vers

perma fat vers

[clever path]

basically a perma flask

[near gust]

esp crab if u already have it, for me it gave better results than sims show

[past pivot]

Crab over ember imo.

[abstract flower]

I like crab better than ember but ember sims a bit better, but I love crabs as an animal so I cant part with it

[robust leaf]

this is 5bossses 2min what gives to me i have signet as second trinket now and first trinket is might of the ocean

[past pivot]

Sims don't factor in avoidance from Crab which is an extra little perk.

Signet can be good in keys but it can also be a piece of junk if you can't keep stacks up

[robust leaf]

i need to change it i think

[abstract flower]

also idk what augury sims at. I wish you could droptimizer raid and m+ at same time with premium or somethin id buy it lol

[robust leaf]

with crab or ember

[indigo quarry]

ember is really stronk

[robust leaf]

@abstract flower i can do it

[abstract flower]

wait fr fr?

[robust leaf]

fr fr ?

what do you mean with that

[abstract flower]

for real for real

[robust leaf]

yes bro

why not

for sure

give me your char name or something

[abstract flower]

oh no I mean like running one droptimizer for m+ and raid at same time not one of each bc I can do that lol

I thought you found the secret sauce

[robust leaf]

ah

you can't do that bro

[past pivot]

no. Have to do those apart.

[modest condor]

tbh i've been thinking of running ember just for the defensive value

[robust leaf]

@modest condor crab have def value aswell

[modest condor]

less consistent than ember

[abstract flower]

vers is better than avoid and the vers is always up

[modest condor]

crab is only when it procs isnt it

you cant rely on a random trinket proc to save you from 1shots

[inland flame]

Ya timers are really generous this season living through things becomes harder much faster than killing things fast enough.

[modest condor]

yeah i think the only dungeon where i can see timer becoming an issue before 1shots do is rise

[ruby bolt]

A fury Christmas to all!

[modest condor]

or just insane damage intake like tree boss in waycrest

[silver mantle]

I'm probably going to die from no legendary before I get one shot in m+

[fading sky]

Hahaha

Same😅

[clever path]

real

[robust leaf]

in aoe ember sim way more better than crab

[clever path]

aoe sims

[robust leaf]

5 bosses 3min

@clever path not good ?

sim i mean

[clever path]

u take ember if you need survivability

its a vers stat stick

crab has high uptime

in keys

around 30% if im not mistaken

and its basically an earthen writ + avoidance

[silver mantle]

Imagine having good trinkets.

[clever path]

silm was talking about high keys where it's common to get oneshot by a random cast/mechanic

and extra vers is required

[brittle folio]

Why are we taking all this verse. Haste is high this season as well

[clever path]

not for me

mastery>vers>>>>>>>haste>crit

[weary summit]

hey guys random question, i have gorehowl (473) ravencrests wrath (470) and gholak (1 hand 476). i simmed and its saying to take gholak in off hand and gore in main but am i technically losing more since its a 1 hand rather than quipping 2 2 hands?

[robust leaf]

this is my sim 5 target

[clever path]

aoe sims are bugged iirc

[brittle folio]

Vers is higher stat prio than mast???

[clever path]

sim yourself

[past pivot]

Have to remember to take m+ sims with a grain of salt. All of them are basically guesses as the sim parameters vary so so much. Both are good trinkets but comparing two via sims is always questionable.

[robust leaf]

So you mean guys crab is better in terms of dmg than ember right ?

[young swan]

gholak pretty good in ST, but usually loses out at = ilvl and is always worse in aoe

[past pivot]

Stats will vary depending on your gear. Hence the need to sim yourself.

[brittle folio]

Been simming to my hearts content. Something just feels off. I’m beating my dungeon slice sims on average but for raid it feels weak

[clever path]

dslice is just some st some aoe sim

[weary summit]

is it better to use gholak in raid and the other 2 for m+? the two are champ level and gholak is hero

[clever path]

its not an accurate representation of a dungeon since its impossible

if your tank pulls huge

[past pivot]

Dungeon slice isn’t for raid.

[clever path]

you will do huge overall

[young swan]

something like that

[brittle folio]

Obviously.

[young swan]

would just prioritize getting better weapons

vers good for scaling trinkets that are also good (augury)

vers also good when other stats are meh and ur hitting DR on your best stat (mastery)

[clever path]

which is furys situation right now

[slim coral]

I miss the first season of DF dungeons

They were so good and without thundering they will be amazing

[clever path]

was it

azure vault

[modest condor]

god no

[clever path]

algethar

[modest condor]

s1 df was the worst dungeon set since i started playing

[clever path]

ruby life pools

[olive wraith]

S2 was good

[eternal sundial]

All seasons dont compare to sl s3

[clever path]

nelth was just boring

[olive wraith]

This season is good too though

[clever path]

chains

[clever path]

real

[eternal sundial]

Class tuning tho

[clever path]

better than last patch

well .5 onwards

aug

remove aug

[eternal sundial]

Ye sl didnt have aug

Thus better

[hardy cargo]

Based

[acoustic furnace]

Is it wrong to leave a key if they wait until after it starts to tell me someone is a carry in a +21

Bc I feel kinda bad but at the same time fuck that

[twin void]

Always inspect the group before starting.

[clever path]

idc if im boosting someone or not as long as they play the game and deal with the affix

[jolly mist]

where buffs

[acoustic furnace]

He was 435 ilvl doing 30k overall on bosses in a 21 AD on tyrannical week

so yeah not boosting that

[inland flame]

Ya that might be a bit much I guess

[acoustic furnace]

Lesson learned. Always inspect from now on.

Tank even called me the gamer word when I asked why nobody said anything about the carry

[inland flame]

21 tyr Yazma with 2 dps would have been fun

[acoustic furnace]

Also does shadowmeld not work on pursuit anymore? Rezan ate my invisible ass and I was kinda shocked tbh

[inland flame]

Lol doesn't Meld make him drop anyone no matter who melds? Iunno, haven't had it in a group for a while.

[acoustic furnace]

Apparently not

[modest condor]

nah just leave in that case

[rotund ginkgo]

is there a way on logs

to check who placed sylvanas lamenters

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-thinking-emoji-gif-10925325

[inland flame]

Trying to bless us with Firemourne luck with a Shadowmourne item

[mortal rock]

Guys

i sim higher with crafted weapon 463 over bracer 463 in s3 what to pick

[olive wraith]

How many times

Do you need to hear the same advice

[rotund steppe]

ilvl before bis

[tight igloo]

im sad

[modest condor]

did you miss the burn?

[olive wraith]

Imagine if you had like 5 less deaths

[tight igloo]

ya we missed the burn

but even if we killed it we were still overtime

[mortal rock]

my friend told me that wep is better

he told me that mace got 100 k proc on it an use proc

[tight igloo]

i coulda done way more dps overall though im still noob in high keys

[olive wraith]

Your friend is wrong.

[tight igloo]

was def doable

[modest condor]

fall is such a despair key

you make ti through the 2nd and the 3rd boss

only to miss the burn on the easiest boss

[tight igloo]

yeah

[olive wraith]

Sounds like AD

[tight igloo]

our aug died or else i think we wouldve made it

[olive wraith]

Clear entire dungeon no prob

Just to fail last boss

[tight igloo]

got rezzed but the damage was done

[modest condor]

Sadge

[tight igloo]

o well

sucks to almost get that but then go back to struggling to be invited to 24s and 25s

gotta get my low keys up

[unreal onyx]

AD last boss is definetly a decider in that key

everything else is just so easy

but if I ever failed a AD it was on last boss 100% of the time

[tight igloo]

yea

[plush flower]

i see a lot of ranged dps or healers mess up on the first boss

during pursuit

at least it means i dont have to waste my time doing the entire key to brick it on the last boss x)

[runic pine]

Same

But Rezan also snaps you to him now depending on a couple things that aren’t immediately obvious so it’s not always their fault

[unreal onyx]

as a nelf

can I meld the pursuit on cast or do I have to wait until the pursuit started

[modest condor]

wait

[unreal onyx]

I always waited but I wasn't sure

good to know

[kindred notch]

guys next week howmuch chance for legendry drop?

[unreal onyx]

it's 50/50 every week

[willow cradle]

🔮

[unreal onyx]

you either get it or yu don't

[near crypt]

😂

[plush flower]

lol

[plucky ice]

ill get is next year damn shit game

[unreal onyx]

I mean

this year is literally only 1 reset left

[plucky ice]

lol

[untold moth]

Drops on last week of season guaranteed, full expansion ilvl reset for s4 as well so it'll be replaced instantly

[unreal onyx]

surely

[plucky ice]

if blizz has a brain it'll be upgradeable with dinar

like SL hunter bow

[unreal onyx]

was the bow upgradable?

I thought you could just buy it again

[plucky ice]

same thing, just had to have it

[tight igloo]

i ran the 27 and the healer couldnt heal 2nd boss

:(((

[runic pine]

Yeah but that’s also kinda shitty that you have to spend a dinar on upgrading your Lego

Then again you’d be doing it anyways for a normal weapon so eh

[true sapphire]

Yeah literally same as buying Gavel.

[runic pine]

Except gavel actually did something

[true sapphire]

Lego still DPS upgrade.

[runic pine]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[plucky ice]

[eternal sundial]

not having to loot it means not having to redo quest

so id gladly dinar it

[unreal onyx]

gavel wasn't a very very rare drop either

[eternal sundial]

yes it was it never dropped for me for all of s3

[unreal onyx]

it dropped literally once for us in HC

on our aotc kill

and I got it

it even had leech

S4 gavel was dinar angle

[plucky ice]

gavel execute spam was lit in s4

nice gameplay

[indigo quarry]

fuck gavel

[unreal onyx]

I liked gavel

sadly maldraxxus and ardenweald ones sucked

[true sapphire]

Gavel was fun

[unreal onyx]

the only thing that was annoying was that the soul was not targettable with a macro

[spiral oasis]

gavel and jaithys on fury was so fun

[unreal onyx]

jaithys was just a regular weap

[spiral oasis]

I liked jaithys gimic

gimmick*

:)

[unreal onyx]

you just fed it weapons to reduce the secondaries

[eternal sundial]

jaithys talked thus based

[spiral oasis]

Hungry sword

that SPOKE!

I love talking weapons

[true sapphire]

Yes the speaking is good. Miss sark cloak hollerin at me too.

[unreal onyx]

sark cloak also talked

[spiral oasis]

xalatath talking was the only reason I dipped my fingers in shadow priest tbh

[unreal onyx]

just make a macro that has you yell smthn when you use avatar or smthn

[spiral oasis]

ridiculous

[brittle crow]

just use xal'atoh

[spiral oasis]

do it talk to you when mogged

I didn't play mop

[runic pine]

Xalatath was legion

Not mop smh

[spiral oasis]

Xal'aTOH

READ!!!

[inland flame]

Its the corrupted Gorehowl from Garry

[runic pine]

Never

[spiral oasis]

ridiculous little rat can't read!!

[runic pine]

I refuse to acknowledge that as a thing

[spiral oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/imperius-imperius-vs-diablo-gif-13815412

does this to u

[runic pine]

Ugly ahh model

[spiral oasis]

does anybody know why the nyalotha weapon models r so low rez

[runic pine]

Because bfa

[inland flame]

Iunno when I use that mog I use the Maut staff and it looks okay

[runic pine]

Gear artists just decided they didn’t need to do any work after legion

[spiral oasis]

but this was also bfa

[runic pine]

“We’re no longer doing tier sets and instead we’re going to make gear modeled after the raid”

[spiral oasis]

that vs this

[runic pine]

All the armor sets except for like BFD raid were garbage

[inland flame]

Lot of Nathria stuff looked good

[spiral oasis]

true, true.

[naive summit]

guys so today i've heard that there's a fury warrior rotation macro

[spiral oasis]

All the armor from shadowlands was nice if I'm being 100%

[naive summit]

where is this macro at

[unreal onyx]

nathira set is so low res compared to SoD

[spiral oasis]

Why would you need a macro

[unreal onyx]

but they're like half a year apart only

[spiral oasis]

It's 2 buttons

[runic pine]

Doubt a macro would work

[inland flame]

All of the covenant plate looked good

[runic pine]

You’d have to have a couple different ones if you actually wanted to do that

[inland flame]

Sanctum plate was okay. I hated Sephulcher plate.

[spiral oasis]

I never stop thinking about the maldraxxus plate sets.

[spiral oasis]

Only good sepulcher plate was paladin

[unreal onyx]

nathria chest and pants are still my fav model

[inland flame]

Oh ya they were class sets again in Sepulcher

Ya other classes might have looked better can't recall well

[runic pine]

SoD plate is one of the best sets they’ve ever made

CN plate as well

[spiral oasis]

i believe in maldraxxian supremacy

[inland flame]

I didn't buy too hard into the Torghast aesthetic by then

[runic pine]

Don’t have to

[hasty path]

Based

[inland flame]

Got a little fatigued by it

[runic pine]

It’s just a fantastically made art piece

[hasty path]

CN plate went crazy

[spiral oasis]

I'll be honest I was not as big of a fan of SoD set

I think it would have been perfect if they put more effort into the legs and chest

[runic pine]

Might not be up your alley but it’s extremely well done

[unreal onyx]

I really don't like how almost every heroic coloring looks worse than LFR coloring

[spiral oasis]

You have this GIANT fucking helmet right

And then you have a chain-mail t-shirt

[unreal onyx]

LFR appearance is arguably the hardest to obtain

[runic pine]

Only thing I don’t really love about the SoD set is the helmet

[inland flame]

I can not be a fan of something that's well made when its an aesthetic thing lol

[runic pine]

But it’s not bad either

[hasty path]

Heroic Nathria is bis though iirc

Or maybe normal

Not the red one

[unreal onyx]

SoD chest and pants are garbo

[unreal onyx]

NM is red

hc is silver

[hasty path]

Ah ok then heroic

[unreal onyx]

myth is gold/black

[hasty path]

I love heroic

[spiral oasis]

The weight is all off man

[unreal onyx]

I like the honor PvP one more

that's the one I use

[spiral oasis]

You can easily recify this with different pants and the Heroic Sark chestpiece tho

[unreal onyx]

has some more contrast to it

[hasty path]

let me log in and pull up my fit

for nathria

[runic pine]

IMO the only thing that’s unbalanced is the helmet

[hasty path]

shoulders too

[unreal onyx]

SoD helmet is ugly

shoulders are bis

[hasty path]

i hated those torghast shoulders

nah i like small shoulders

[inland flame]

My daily driver is DK Nighthold tier. Looks so good on male troll.

[spiral oasis]

If they made the helmet smaller and have the chest and legs plate parts

[unreal onyx]

wish they added the glow to every difficulty and not just myth

[spiral oasis]

It would have been one of the best sets they've ever added

[mortal rock]

how many crafted item from s3 spark of dream can i have equiped ?

[unreal onyx]

or have it like the sporestone that you can add the glow afterwards

[hasty path]

2 embellished items, no limit overall

[unreal onyx]

SoD LFR with glow would go crazy

[runic pine]

If we didn’t have SoD armor I wouldn’t have this badass mog

[hasty path]

this is my main fit

[mortal rock]

so if i craft bracer what shall i craft as 2 item unsure about ccloak becuse my cloak atm is 460 item level

[hasty path]

this is what I had going for my nathria set but didnt finish it, went with the blue instead. Couldnt settle on boots I liked

[spiral oasis]

my set is a little basic but I like it

[inland flame]

Cloak is good because crafted items cap ilvl lower than normal gear and cloaks have low stat budget

So you miss out on less stats

[hasty path]

ur not a full set andy so ur ok in my book

[inland flame]

If you're looking forward to full myth gear. But not everyone will get there.

[hasty path]

express yourself creatively

[spiral oasis]

I use necrolords as a crutch too much

[mortal rock]

so i guess i make bracer and cloak ?

[hasty path]

my DK just wore most of the necrolord outfit + a flower crown in shadowlands

because i was lazy

[unreal onyx]

I only miss the nathria myth helm and then I have full set in every diff

[hasty path]

my hunter mog go sicko mode though

[inland flame]

Its probably not a mortal sin to do belt if its a big up for you. We'll have plenty of sparks so you can craft cloak later if you want.

[mortal rock]

why are weapon no go to craft ?

[inland flame]

You can if you have sparks to spare its just that crafted weaps cap at 486 and myth track goes to 489.

Also you have to pump a lot of crests into an aspect craft.

Everyone's situation and gear are a little different though.

Not like you can snap your fingers and magically get a myth track weapon. Especially for most players.

[runic pine]

I honestly like the Necrolord stuff a lot but I wish I could get it to match with other things

Like shoulders/helm are the best part of the gear and they don’t really match anything else

[inland flame]

A lot of mog has that issue

[unreal onyx]

biggest mog issues is the slight difference in shades of color

that don't match with eachother

[inland flame]

Ya I farmed Xavius shoulders for my druid and the second I got them I realized they don't match anything

[mortal rock]

what stats do i want for 2 hander mace crafted item level 463 mace

i am thinking to go for bracer + wep

[still swift]

why are you so obsessed with the idea of making a weapon

[runic pine]

I wouldn’t craft a weapon at all

[still swift]

we've been here earlier

[runic pine]

You can farm one that’s within 3ilvl

[still swift]

in those 8 hours or so you could have easily grinded m+ and gotten good weapons

[runic pine]

Just not worth it

You’re going to replace the weapon period

You might not ever replace a ring

[twin glacier]

Ring is huge cuz it comes with a socket.

[runic pine]

And you’re definitely not replacing embellished items

[runic pine]

Yep and you can put flavor pocket on it

[still swift]

we tried explaining it to him earlier but he kept going on about weapon cuz its technically highest dps gain

when he simmed 100k cuz his char is barely starting gearing

[twin glacier]

Yea then let him craft his weapon

[runic pine]

I mean a 486 weapon still sims like a 2k dps gain for me

At 484

But I’m not doing that

[twin glacier]

WHO cares. He’s prolly not doing anything that needs min maxing anyways if he’s asking these questions

[runic pine]

It’s a trap

[oblique trail]

Craft yourself a weapon and knock yourself out

[still swift]

why frieren

[oblique trail]

Why blonde girl with a present

[still swift]

its me irl

[oblique trail]

Real

[still swift]

i miss red hair christmas hat banezi

[oblique trail]

I'm also frieren

[twin glacier]

I mean u can craft a weapon in like 4 weeks o would guess but at that point uve been the most unlucky guy not looting a vault weapon

[oblique trail]

Fixed

[runic pine]

Cries in no myth track weapon yet 6 weeks into the season

[still swift]

sry fixed my sentence

[oblique trail]

I'm about to fix you real soon

[still swift]

oh

[eternal sundial]

🥶

[oblique trail]

Just loot one from first vault innit

Then loot literally nothing else good

[runic pine]

Can’t cuz I looted something else good first vault

Don’t remember what it was though

Oh wait yeah I do

Myth track might

[twin glacier]

Same. But next week we gonna wield the fiery one, right

[wild mural]

Just loot the leggo

[still swift]

oh i looted that one too

doesnt seem super good sadly

[oblique trail]

Real..

[narrow narwhal]

Elf friend banezi

[runic pine]

I’ve had two myth track hour glasses or whatever from dawn in vaults that I haven’t taken and my enhance shaman hates me for it

[oblique trail]

Hello

[narrow narwhal]

I am looking forward to the next banezi anime pfp

[runic pine]

It’s good in m+

Not good in raid

[still swift]

yea but m+ is some weird minigame

who cares about it

[runic pine]

I do

[still swift]

you're wrong

[runic pine]

I often am

[oblique trail]

M+ is for abusing easy gear

Then you forget about it

[twin glacier]

What part do you enjoy about m+. The actual dungeon or the Q Simulator???

[runic pine]

Pushing keys is actually enjoyable

Q sim is aids

[still swift]

just get invited

?

[runic pine]

But then again all the pushing I’ve done is on my own key basically

[hardy cargo]

Sitting in lfg is nice with a movie on 2nd monitor >:^)

[olive wraith]

No one will invite me to h fyrakk

[runic pine]

At 3k most of the keys I’ve done for score have been my own

[olive wraith]

Cause I don’t have aotc

[empty grove]

just link your leggo like i do and get insta invited

[runic pine]

So I don’t have to worry about not getting invite

[olive wraith]

Rip

[still swift]

dw they dont inv with aotc either

got mine w1 and i still dont get any

[oblique trail]

Spriest moment

[still swift]

warrior moment as well

my priest doesnt try to pug heroic

[oblique trail]

One season of meta and everyone forgets about them

[still swift]

its useless for me

[oblique trail]

Wish I could say the same

But even normal trinkets are upgrades for me..

[olive wraith]

Priest still got heals at least

[still swift]

20s dont do it for me anymore either

[oblique trail]

Yeah +20s are all downgrades

[still swift]

so its just vault + mythic afk week

[oblique trail]

Oh well means I can almost go back to raidlogging

[runic pine]

At 484 I don’t expect much in terms of upgrades

[still swift]

rip raid

[runic pine]

That being said I’m big sadge at only 220k sim DPS

[empty grove]

next week im fully juiced

sort of..

craft a belt put a socket on it and catalyst my helm which has a socket

[plucky ice]

only real up is leggo and mythic raid trinkets

[still swift]

next week lego

no issue

[oblique trail]

Surely

Lego and trinkets

This week, nor the 2 prior, wasn't it

But the next one is

[frigid zealot]

for sure

hopefully i wont hafve to see you in a normal pug this week

[wild mural]

I know I won’t get augury

And that’s OK

[narrow narwhal]

I get augury from vault for sure

[runic pine]

Next week, I get myth track weapon in vault AND Lego

Surely it happens

[still swift]

fyrakk track weapon in vault

[abstract flower]

ive been super shafted on weapon drops and im sick of having lfr weps so im just gonna bite the bullet and craft one w aspect crests. is vers mastery just a safe bet or is there a way to sim crafted gear before you make it?

[runic pine]

Yeah

Droptimizer

[abstract flower]

radical, thank you

[olive wraith]

Gear compare

[runic pine]

Just do more keys

[olive wraith]

Idk if droptimizer lets you choose stats?

[runic pine]

Ain’t no way if you do this amount of keys or more that you don’t get a weapon

[runic pine]

It does

[abstract flower]

ive done 46 thrones going for the trinket and have gotten 0 hero track axe and 0 might of the ocean

[runic pine]

Then you’re just insanely unlucky

[olive wraith]

You have better luck with rise

[abstract flower]

you're telling me lmao

[olive wraith]

For one wep

[runic pine]

But there are also more dungeons out there

[abstract flower]

well yeah I want that one

[runic pine]

That drop weapons

[abstract flower]

but i want the trinket more

and been hard farming throne

was gonna go rise after

[olive wraith]

I think rise only has 6 lootable items

When I was farming wep I just applied to brh, tot and rise

[runic pine]

There’s also BRH

[molten relic]

I’ve done 42 thrones and haven’t even seen might, axe or crab drop lmao

That shit doesn’t exist

[runic pine]

I have all 3

Only weapon I haven’t looted is gorehowl

[molten relic]

I had a myth track white fin in vault

But took augury instead

[frosty heron]

havent seen brh neck yet

looted 4 trinket already

[molten relic]

I got the neck traded to me

And the wep too

[frosty heron]

i got dht neck

but i want that neck there

[molten relic]

Actually all of my dungeon loot has been traded too me lmao

[frosty heron]

better stats

[molten relic]

Even my rezans, tank traded it to me

[frosty heron]

xD

i am missing that brh neck and augury

[molten relic]

I just loot shit

Always fkijg cloak or pants

[mortal rock]

do i use defense stance or berserker stance as fury warrior for both m+ and raid ?

[frosty heron]

if my vault is as blessed on my first vault

i will get augury

[latent hedge]

both

[olive wraith]

I think you really need to go read the wowhead guide. Also read tooltips more

[spiral oasis]

A lot of horde and warrior stuff does the trick

Orc heritage armor is my favorite

[mortal rock]

is this corect

with versa

[young swan]

sounds fake

[spiral oasis]

Idea: Defensive stance as one bind then I macro Berserker stance into Rampage

[eternal sundial]

Stupid

[spiral oasis]

(So I don't forget again

[eternal sundial]

You wanna dps in dstance at times

Just get a wa

[spiral oasis]

🫡

I've only felt the need to do it during certain burst windows from evil bosses

[modest condor]

def stance is like

[spiral oasis]

Like soulrend or cinderbolt storm

[modest condor]

yeah

so strong

just lets you live mechanics 2 more keylevels for free pretty much

[spiral oasis]

So I wouldn't be completely foolish for macroing Berserker stance to rampage

[mortal rock]

what is the embalishement called for fury warrior cloak in sim ?

[unreal onyx]

shadowflame armor patch

[mortal rock]

WTF

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nvqXdG4CZDxMg9RRmhPFKm

Can anyone tell me why it did say that wep sim higher then cloak

i dont understadn

[spiral oasis]

Because your weapons suck

I don't even think u need to sim at this point man I think u just need to get some champ track stuff at least

[unreal onyx]

weapons are one of the most important pieces of gear for us

[spiral oasis]

If your weapons are awful, of course getting an upgrade will sim higher than getting a cloak. Cloak gives way less stats.

[rotund steppe]

isnt it like the 5th time we explain this?

[modest condor]

yes

[slim coral]

You are 441 simming is useless

[sleek parrot]

any decent non annihilator builds? rly dont like meta builds this season

ideally something with anger management

[slim coral]

No

Tier set plays around Anni

[clever path]

any simming prior to 480 is useless imo

[sleek parrot]

rip until war within I guess, doubt fated season will give us new tier

[clever path]

you will end up replacing it soon anyway

[summer quail]

And there's gonna be several times more

[clever path]

go arms

trust

[sleek parrot]

guess I could give it a try, can't be much worse surely

[spiral oasis]

[slim coral]

It’s not confirmed but I’m pretty sure we will get a new tier set

They never have had a tier set go 2 tiers

[sleek parrot]

technically previous 2 tiers will be available as well but I assume current one is strongest

[slim coral]

They are not going to have 3 tier sets active

That would require so much tuning

[plucky ice]

if its like sl we wont get a set

[sleek parrot]

that's why I'm saying current one will be strongest, because they won't tune them more

[slim coral]

The current one wil probably be disabled

[rigid stirrup]

i hope this badluck protection is charecter bound

because it just dropped on my alt pali and imma lose my mind

[plucky ice]

[clever path]

ok time to full clear on my alt warrior then

got nothing to do on main warrior

if it gets leggo

[compact knot]

hello guys, 422ilvl fury warrior here, why am i only simming for 60k dps and not 230k, ty in advance

[clever path]

i give up

[clever path]

switch to smf

real

[compact knot]

ok thanks!!!

my sim is 45k now :((((( this sim stuff really sucks!!

[summer quail]

Have you tried simming stat weights or asked a streamer what stats he has?

[compact knot]

ok i try that thanks!!

[fading bane]

[wild mural]

Real

[eternal sundial]

which is it

[mossy fox]

yes

[modest condor]

yes

[red yew]

yes

[unreal onyx]

yes

[clever path]

yes

[finite nimbus]

Should I be doing normal and lfr as well for lego chance or is one heroic per week enough?

[snow edge]

According to the blue post, lower difficulties are redundant

[clever path]

how much is raid ready boost

in gold

get like 5 warriors and clear weekly

ez

think about it

[eternal sundial]

bazillionmillion dollaroos

(buy ingame level to 70 boost)

[junior gale]

Wheres the guy who said he had 12 warriors rdy to farm the lego

I wonder if hes gotten it yet

[modest condor]

hi critcake's chat

[dense elbow]

1 hc per week is enough, you can degenerate minmax for minor shards, killing all bosses - but likely not worth. So just do HC Fyrakk

[clever path]

based

[sand nacelle]

chair looking good

[mossy fox]

hi

[narrow narwhal]

My chat

[clever path]

0.25 revvez's chat

[gilded pawn]

Anyone else miss the goat

[clever path]

yes

[half cargo]

Love when Scripe calls him the Sir

Such a baller nickname

[clever path]

revvez calls everyone sir

[eternal sundial]

everyone calls revvez sir if anything

[half cargo]

This is the one I know

Don’t think I’ve ever heard revvez call anyone that

[clever path]

on his server

[idle brook]

does tghe legendary scale up? like if you fyrakk heroic no chance normal/lfr?@

[still swift]

what r u saying

if u kill heroic u dont have chance on normal/lfr

[clever path]

imagine

[half cargo]

Ah

[clever path]

10x rwf best warrior ever

[sand nacelle]

it's 496 ilvl from whichever difficulty you get it, if you mean chances to loot then heroic gives higher chances than normal etc

[clever path]

and this humble

the goat

[half cargo]

Poggers

[clever path]

truly one and only

[half cargo]

Love to see it

[idle brook]

so you have to do lfr/normal and heroic and u get a chance from all?

[clever path]

no

[sand nacelle]

no, do the highest difficulty you can

[clever path]

just do heroic

[sand nacelle]

for example doing heroic aggregates loot chance from heroic, normal and lfr.

[still swift]

u do heroic -> it rolls for heroic, normal, and lfr

[idle brook]

ah ty t y

ive done normal and lfr so far guess its worth trying heroic

[boreal crescent]

does anyone know if stockpiling any of the superbloom bags/caches helps speed up that part of the questline for the legendary when you get it

[olive wraith]

Don’t you have to participate in x number

[eternal sundial]

doesnt give u currency if you pre-did them

[unreal onyx]

I did the TW weekly quest and got a heroic slot in my vault left

what loot can I get in there?

[eternal sundial]

wdym

[olive wraith]

M0 stuff maybe

[unreal onyx]

TW gear, current m+ dungeon gear or DF dungeon gear

[clever belfry]

m0 gear ish

afaik

[eternal sundial]

oh that heroic

[unreal onyx]

from current m+ loot pool

?

[clever belfry]

i dont think so, but like

does it matter lol

its on shit track and will just be dogshit anyhow

[unreal onyx]

it doesn't but I just don't know

[olive wraith]

My guess is m0 gear

[unreal onyx]

the dungeons it can choose from is what I'd wanna know

[olive wraith]

Ya m0 pool

Doubt it’ll be timewalking stuff

[unreal onyx]

that's from this seasons m+ dungeons?

not smthn like AV or AA

[olive wraith]

M0 is only DF I’m pretty sure

[unreal onyx]

champion track puzzy b here I come

[olive wraith]

Isn’t that veteran

[unreal onyx]

idk

[junior gale]

Puzzy B Fated soon

[olive wraith]

M2 drops lowest champ track

So 0 is probably veteran

In vault

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[half cargo]

Man went from kneeling to cane to wheelchair

Can’t wait for the thrilling conclusion

[eternal sundial]

death or arms buff

[half cargo]

Arms will never get buffed

Death it is I guess

[summer quail]

nah arms will get buffed, Fatal mark buff only

[half cargo]

Or maybe sks

[unreal onyx]

puzzy B burst + augury will shred

(hopefully)

[eternal sundial]

brand anvil in st

[unreal onyx]

fury S tier ST? aintnoway

[clever belfry]

hate anvil

dogshit trinket die

[unreal onyx]

augury + beacon crit

insta-aggro

[clever belfry]

2 sec stat trinkets

glueless

[unreal onyx]

just like rn

might + augury

[eternal sundial]

i mean ye its not the coolest

[clever belfry]

real kings play brand

[eternal sundial]

but just OCE icon combo would also feel ass

[clever belfry]

u know it's gonna be that

xd

[unreal onyx]

naur

[clever belfry]

unless they add +39ilvl again then maybe we're too far into dr

[eternal sundial]

the only way to fix fated is to make belt/cloak and wrists tier items and let us 4p4p

[clever belfry]

ok but listen up
fury gonna play 2pc2pc (this and last tier)

no anni

[eternal sundial]

then again fated is a lot off angle

[clever belfry]

rav am

[eternal sundial]

rav am big fan

[clever belfry]

its gonna be YUGE

[unreal onyx]

+39ilvl get haste DR with 1 main-hasted piece of gear

[clever belfry]

T R U S T M E

[eternal sundial]

i dont recall what this tiers 2p does

[unreal onyx]

OF makes BT do more dam

[clever belfry]

its all of the good stuff

4pc is just cdr

[unreal onyx]

^

[eternal sundial]

i wanna play 2p2p2p

full ape mode

[clever belfry]

last tier 2pc is 10% ramp dmg + 10% ramp crit