fury

[unreal onyx]

but tank + dungeon dependant

might + augury is the go-to for most

[restive peak]

I've done a few 26/27s w both this week, augury/ocean is still better overall

Slightly better ST w signet brand, much worse AOE...it's fine if it's all you have

[past pivot]

Crab is a great option if no Augury. There's also Mirror, Pips and Gore.

[restive peak]

If you have all 3, you'd want to run aug/ocean always even tyrann

^ crab is a good fillin

[unreal onyx]

yea I use might augury in every m+

is the HoF already full?

for fyrakk

[restive peak]

God no

35 guilds world wide lol

[unreal onyx]

oh damn

[restive peak]

We're 1 of like 300 guilds stuck on tindral

[unreal onyx]

would've expected more by now

[charred panther]

Yea, why they’re nerfing bosses

[restive peak]

A ton of us sub 5%, Tindral is the real wall

They aren't nerfing them so far lol

[unreal onyx]

we also started tindral this week

[restive peak]

We wiped at 2% on tindral to mushrooms....man

[charred panther]

I saw a fryakk nerf this week no?

[unreal onyx]

I think we are like WR550

with 7/9

[restive peak]

Minor

[charred panther]

There’s been tindral nerfs since wf as well I thought

[past pivot]

Not enough. Yet

[unreal onyx]

it's still very hard

[past pivot]

If they could nerf the lag on that stupid fight.

[unreal onyx]

531 World atm

higher rank than I expected 7/9 to be tbh

[hollow hull]

best xmas present is augury 😉

[restive peak]

Man we were like US20th at 7/9 and are still 7/9 lol

[autumn mica]

those trinkets

[robust widget]

get a better ring

[autumn mica]

489 augury and might, this guy

[unreal onyx]

EU 318 lol

[restive peak]

We're all stuck man

Tindral is the ultimate cockblock

[unreal onyx]

smolderon was also a minor wall

[opaque thistle]

So, in a theoretical world, where someone would play SMF to gaslight someone in their guild, what would the stat prio be?

[restive peak]

I hate the Smolder nerfs

[grizzled fiber]

Good day all, anyone able to advice why this spear and thunderous roar macro is not working? #showtooltip
/cast [known:Spear of Bastion,@pulsar wing] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar

[restive peak]

They made him a pushover

I also don't want them to nerf tindral again

Til we kill

[unreal onyx]

we had a 0.5% pre-nerf wipe on smolderon

[restive peak]

Worked way too hard on this fight to kill a nerfed version

[unreal onyx]

but only killed it post-nerf

[grizzled fiber]

it is only working for spear but the roar part does not work

[past pivot]

who cares? SMF is s meme. Play w/e. No one cares

[unreal onyx]

nerfs didn't really feel like big nerfs to me personally

[opaque thistle]

Trying to maximize the meme

[unreal onyx]

didn't change the fight a lot

[restive peak]

Smolder nerfs were massive bruh

1 less nado per, 1 less orb to soak

The 4th person having to kite for ages cost a lot of uptime sometimes, and the nados were way worse to dodge

[unreal onyx]

if you can dodge 3 nados you can dodge 5

[restive peak]

It was 5 before per lol

[tight igloo]

Smolder is free now

[unreal onyx]

also removing the threat was not too nessesary

just another useless macro to use

[restive peak]

Removing the threat wasn't, removing the 4th orb was an omeganerf

[tight igloo]

It wasn't all that hard before but now it's just dumb

[unreal onyx]

neltharion 2.0

[polar trail]

Just sim top gear in your smf spec and gear

[opaque thistle]

Currently working on that, just seeing if anyone did the leg work already

[unreal onyx]

on our kill post-nerf we had 11.88mil dmg taken from waves

on a 11% wipe pre-nerf we had 19.1mil dmg taken

[tight igloo]

Player issue

[restive peak]

8mil is huge

Gotta figure it's a 25% nerf to soak orbs, 20% nerf to nados

That's a massive nerf

[unreal onyx]

on our 0.5% post nerf wipe we had 12.2mil dmg taken

[hasty path]

Smolderon is wayyy easier now

[restive peak]

Smolder went from only a few guilds passed to every guild who was hardstuck running him over this week, we meme'd on him for reclear and he was still tight the prior 2 week reclears

[wild mural]

Surely

[restive peak]

Tindral gonna be the ultimate cockblock for the guilds who aren't top 200-300 material though, like he will be guild destroying; he broke Riggs guild

[wild mural]

Oh no

[unreal onyx]

tindral new halondrus/anduin

or painsmith

[wild mural]

I’m not looking forward

[restive peak]

Our group is pretty chill and friendly together even when peple make mistakes and this week was gettin TESTY at the end of Thurs

[hasty path]

Riggs guild survived longer than it should have anyway

[restive peak]

True

[tight igloo]

Tindral is just a good boss

[wild mural]

CEyi dream deadge

[restive peak]

Still, Tindral was the dagger.

[hasty path]

Idk how people could stand that many wipes

[modest condor]

tindral gonna kill as many guilds as anduin

[restive peak]

Agreed, I don't want any more nerfs to Tindral

We're too close to kill, I want it legit

[hasty path]

I think they happen within 2 weeks

Tbh

[modest condor]

Chatting you're already a couple of weeks late to get it legit

[restive peak]

2 weeks is cool

[tight igloo]

I'm still end of p2 waiting for people to survive and not double soak seeds, but it's a good boss

[modest condor]

still waiting for dungeon boss nerfs tbh

[tight igloo]

Don't want it nerfed

[restive peak]

Oh we would never have killed the 2 sec seed version

I don't think many would've

We've had enough double seed soak deaths @ 5s, can't imagine at 2 lol

[tight igloo]

Yeah it's really annoying

[restive peak]

It's super fun once you start getting to P3 consistently, trust. Fight is actually a banger

[tight igloo]

Especially the one time I charged the boss and double soaked the seed that was in melee if the boss that nobody soaked

[restive peak]

It's so funny, early on "please leave boss for soaks"

[split comet]

does anyone know how the Augury works?

[restive peak]

Now it's "SOMEONE SOAK THE 1 UNDER BOSS"

It does big boomboom damdam

Augury go brrrrr

[tight igloo]

Augur gives you buff, you crit during buf, it does damage

[split comet]

yeah i get the buff and it instantly goes away

doesn't last the full 20 sec

[restive peak]

Cuz you instantly crit as fury

[split comet]

but it says dmg further increased by how much you crit or something

reading ins't my strong suit

[tight igloo]

Idk it does dam

All I need to know

[plucky ice]

big dam good

[split comet]

it does about same as signet brand or so

[tight igloo]

Hope we kill next week since we are stopping reclears

[restive peak]

It does more than signet lol

[tight igloo]

But flame wave go br

[restive peak]

Same Soul, we only raid 1 day cuz of xmas so I assume we extend to kill Tindy

[split comet]

when you account for the mainstat loss it's about the same

[restive peak]

Signet is dogwater, convince me otherwise

[tight igloo]

We dropped the extra day and I'm sad because only raiding 3 days isn't enough

[restive peak]

Same for us D:

[split comet]

signet is like 5% dam, augury is like 7-8% and mainstat u lose is like 2ish %

[tight igloo]

Signet is insane at 15 stacks

[split comet]

so it's about the same by my rough excel math

[tight igloo]

That's it though

[restive peak]

Augury more consistent+does more as soon as a 2nd target comes in

[tight igloo]

But it does split dmg which is less good

In some cases

[plucky ice]

ive had augur do like 10% in short boss kills like in m+

[restive peak]

I love augury, big augury enjoyer

[tight igloo]

I like brand in m+ until the healer dies on trash and I lose stacks waiting

[split comet]

what does the "further increased by critical strikes" do?

on the augury

[restive peak]

More damdam

[past pivot]

If you crit, it does more damage

[split comet]

kk i just wont think about it

lol

just 123

[past pivot]

All you need to know is Augury good.

[frosty heron]

im losing hope on pugs ... 6 weeks and still dont know how to soak smolderon's orb

[split comet]

we just killed it on mythic and we don't know how to soak orb either

dw

it happens at all levels

[red yew]

Tell them to Smolderon these orbs

[unreal onyx]

secret info: having smolderon soak 4+ orbs on myth is a wipe in in enrage

[summer bobcat]

my big plan has failed

I cannot make a group for smolderon without any melee except myself

[unreal onyx]

why no melee

[past pivot]

You could dual box tank it

[rocky brook]

hi guys ...got a quick question ...i killed Fyrakk on HC with war this week....can i still farm normal and LFR for the legendary ?

i mean it has chance t drop ?

[past pivot]

No

[noble elm]

Augury is the best because it requires no brain. It’s a zuglife trinket

Equip and zug

[rocky brook]

only one per week you can do ?

[summer bobcat]

for getting the signet band

[past pivot]

You could kill him on mythic still and have a chance. Or kill him on lower for Augury

[rocky brook]

i see so i killed him on HC got augury ..can still do it LFR and normal for augury or chance t drop

[past pivot]

If you have HC Augury, why would you try for a lfr or normal Augury?

[unreal onyx]

you can kill it on every difficulty for augury

[summer bobcat]

big brain

[rocky brook]

hmmm so its not worth it

[unreal onyx]

but for leggo it only counts the highest difficulty you did

[unreal onyx]

steal it from people that don't have any

keep the poor people poor

[rocky brook]

oh i see so if you ahve done hc its not worth it

[past pivot]

Correct

[rocky brook]

next reset then i guess 😛

[summer bobcat]

so starting from lfr to heroic doesnt change anything?

straight going to HC is the same?

[unreal onyx]

yes

[past pivot]

Just takes more time

[unreal onyx]

same odds but takes 3x the time

[summer bobcat]

damn

[clever path]

boys crab or might for m+?

[unreal onyx]

might

[still swift]

one MIGHT wonder about that

[oblique trail]

!!

[stoic star]

So I joined a Heroic Fyrakk pug, and before we even pulled the boss I got kicked. They pulled the boss maybe 10 seconds after I was removed from the group, so I died in the fire and then was ported out after a minute.

They killed the boss and it saved me to Fyrakk for the week so im locked...

Tried opening a ticket and they said they can't do anything.

[past pivot]

You can try and go back into that instance and see if there's an ember to loot at least but yeah, you got screwed.

[compact knot]

it would send it to your mail

thats fucked up though

[stoic star]

They said they apologize and the only thing I could do was report the guy that kicked me..

[past pivot]

Just make sure to kill him on normal

[stoic star]

Yeah I did.

Do we have any chance for the legendary on LFR?

or nah

[past pivot]

not if you killed him on normal

[stoic star]

Ahh.

[thorn oriole]

if a good fella is selling coachign services against gold, im open

[past pivot]

You can kill him on mythic and still have a chance but not from a lower difficulty

[hallow wren]

Yed

Yes

[stoic star]

sadgers

[ruby bolt]

Happened in lfr on an alt… was about to open a ticket but if that is their answer meh I’ll enjoy being saved

[torn anchor]

People are liking Might of the ocean over Signet brand on volcoross? I thought brand was better on single target

[rotund steppe]

volcoross its not a particularly long fight

[torn anchor]

Ahhh I gotcha yeah so you cant stack brand as much

[wanton mirage]

Got the same problem being kicked and saved one time in pug. Blizz really needs to get their shit together

[past pivot]

How is that Blizzard's problem?

I mean it sucks but not sure what Blizzard can do about it

[rotund steppe]

blitz should ban that kind of people

kicking u out be4 the boss dies, so u get no loot but still saved to the boss

[gentle terrace]

anyone ever get augury from the shitty timewalking quest

[wanton mirage]

Isnt it easier way to make you not saved while not in group?

Like coding?

Why it isnt blizzard problem? I means they can afford to not care. At the same time they could put some resources to prevent that abuse

[past pivot]

And if someone is toxic, gets kicked and then reports the RL? Just seems problematic either way. No easy fix.

[rotund steppe]

yeah no easy fix

but we should be able to report them and something be done

[proven shale]

how come cit is not very good for fury when it reduces the CD of OF? New warrior here, that just got a butcher block, and got fairly excited, but my 463 porcelain crab sims a lot better than a 470 butcher block, and besides my OF windows, and 1.5 mins i dont seem to do a lot of damage

[rotund steppe]

idk take their loot away and a month ban

[past pivot]

Crit is good but not always as good as other stats. Depends on gear and situation.

In your case, the mastery is probably better.

[proven shale]

yea mastery sims like a mofo

thanks!

[past pivot]

If you're still gearing up, stats will vary widely and shift. Sometimes better to focus on ilvl as much as any specific stat

[rotund steppe]

yo axe

what u running?

[proven shale]

that is why i am surprised 10 ilvl on a main stat trinket is not better

[past pivot]

for M+? Can't get an Augury to save my life so Might+Crab. Signet and Rezan for ST.

[proven shale]

also seem to give more secondary than the other

[rotund steppe]

i saw augury yesterday

rolled a 25

[past pivot]

Are you trying to sim for M+ ? Mastery is big on burst which is why Crab is good. Both Crab and Gore are probably best options if don't have an Augury. And assumign you have a Might.

Which does give main stat

[proven shale]

i mean main stat base not like augury where its crit, so i imagined ilvl would win out even if its a worse trinket, yea luckily i got might just on veteran track so far, not sweating on it yet its fine for the 20s i do

[still swift]

also as far as im aware this talent already does a lot of what you said

[proven shale]

oh thanks!

[still swift]

id assume that at least partially goes into the devaluing a bit

[proven shale]

i dont run it in my m+ build tho

[still swift]

yea

[proven shale]

copied someones:D

[torpid slate]

hey guys , can the legendary drop on prot spec? anyone confirmed

[still swift]

yea

[proven shale]

yea

[still swift]

it drops no matter what spec u r

[past pivot]

Any spec

[proven shale]

a few main holy palas i know got it

that will never do ret

[torpid slate]

Okay thanks guys

[modest condor]

bloodcraze pretty much gives you a bad luck protection on bloodthirst crits anyway

oh someone already said that

also tierset gives you 3 guaranteed crits on bt as well

every 25 seconds or so

on aoe crit is a lot better because you cant get use out of bloodcraze most of the time tho

[proven shale]

so even in m+ i should drop the Slaughtering Strikes, that my random build i stole has, and go Bloodcrase right?

[modest condor]

you can

slaughtering gives more aoe damage, bloodcraze more prio

in higher keys prio damage is important but if you're just doing weekly 20s or something it doesnt really matter which one you pick

[proven shale]

y just wekkly 20s for now

[proven shale]

as a retri pala id give all my utility for more damage:D

[pulsar prawn]

Warrior utility waiting room

[pulsar prawn]

Playing ret als my alt. The double freedom is the best talent ever. Pushing those slow dks/priest throu the key

[proven shale]

yea ret feels great in keys, besides tyrannical ST bosses

[pulsar prawn]

Yeah lack of st or building a. Mixed tree sucks for them

[bold osprey]

Correct that lariat with full sockets on gear sims worse than vers wrists? Simming with the ST Wowhead build

[pulsar prawn]

Tryed simming double shadow flame also

[proven shale]

not sure bout warrior, but for the other classes i play, lariat is basically nerfed to an aoe pad kind of embellishment

[past pivot]

And with lariat, what if you lose a socket? Not sure why so many crazy about it. Seems like something you craft late in the season when you've done everything else

[pulsar prawn]

The vers wrist are great due is a fix stat stick. Offense and defense never bad and no rng

[hoary locust]

why my fury sim 8k lower than arms? 221k vs 213

is it normal?

[pulsar prawn]

ask your sim ^^

[verbal basin]

https://gyazo.com/3bee360828f146227ab8e80891311285

Warrior pov

[eternal sundial]

own key surely

[atomic nymph]

You either smell bad, or you're applying beyond your rio level

[covert blaze]

hey that's me

[royal yoke]

Does the timewalking raid cache give heroic gear i.e. 467?

[covert blaze]

no, normal

[atomic nymph]

Weekly quest gives normal, but the quest in shatt to loot illidan gives you 467 - However it's a piece from BT, so no brand, aug, etc

[covert blaze]

technically any piece from normal raid, could be hero track if it's augury

[left perch]

467 warglaives??

[atomic nymph]

Time to make 20 dhs to test this

[tight igloo]

healers and not being able to survive last boss in brh

[thorn oriole]

what spell can we reflect on smolderon ?

[versed harness]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vS26lkSc_eaulHX7-UY8Uu-7DAHvkScxh3npd0kQn3uvvWsgsQm9ducLUi4R2mb7ieNluVilyq5sQe5/pubhtml?pli=1#

[royal yoke]

Thanks, can it be upgraded? Is it in heroic track or is it just 467 forever?

[atomic nymph]

Hero track, upgradeable

[thorn oriole]

if i redo the raid to improve my logs

i wont have loots

but do i get something ?

[young swan]

no

[errant vessel]

Tbf Incorp weeks no one wants you even 2 key levels below your max

[restive peak]

All is working at intended here surely smile

[oblique trail]

Wdym I got plenty of util

I can take care of (almost) every Incorp no problem

All I need to do is divert half of my kit just on that one Incorp and I will have to spend all my globals while it's active to be sure of it

[royal yoke]

Thank you! 🙏

[eternal sundial]

@oblique traili am free

keys completed for the season

[bronze laurel]

Hey guys, any single minded fury enjoyers here?
Trying to figure out what'll be the most beneficial stats weights for it

[gentle terrace]

just bought the myth track augury for a curio and 100k. 💪

[eternal sundial]

just sim yourself with it

[bronze laurel]

Done like 100 sims for the course of 2 days, atm sitting at 60k dps below the standard Titan's grip build. Just curious if anyone else is fiddling around with Single minded and has any input.

[eternal sundial]

why would anyone willingly do that

[compact knot]

there is no way its 60k dps below though

[oak bear]

[oblique trail]

I simmed with 2 daggers

and it was 30k less

[compact knot]

nah im checking this rn

[oblique trail]

than my current setup

[compact knot]

the ultimate mosquito build

[livid estuary]

any single minded fury builds?

[oblique trail]

also pog very hype

[compact knot]

i wonder what you sacrifce for smf

BC and what else

massacre?

[oblique trail]

Massacre and Ashen for ST

For AoE you just kinda have to give up 1 VC and BC for it

Although idk how big Frenzied Flurry is for AoE, but it probably is fairly big

[unreal onyx]

another week another greater ember

[oblique trail]

Time to go farm 2x Nick of Time from rogue gamers

[compact knot]

why daggers tho

[oblique trail]

Idk

It was just a meme from someone asking it

[compact knot]

tru

[bronze laurel]

Whats the build & stats weight that u run this sim with

[compact knot]

gholak and volcoross wep are only 6k under my normal build

smf really isnt that bad

[oblique trail]

Nah

Aint no way

[compact knot]

im being serious

[oblique trail]

!!!

(This is with SMF talents)

[compact knot]

i told u

[oblique trail]

Don't think about Stat Weights they don't matter

Unironically

It's like 4.5k under my normal setup

This is not a fun joke

[compact knot]

im 223k normal on S

ST

i did heroic version so yours is higher

SMF unironically not bad LOL

[oblique trail]

Guess I better hope that I get it from when we kill Fyrakk

[lavish seal]

wassup yall, just came back from s1, new char, what to craft on 3rd spark of dream?

[past pivot]

ring with flavor packet has been popular

[gentle terrace]

signet is just good anyway becuase it comems with the free socket.

[lavish seal]

also ngl, i looked it up on the search here in disc but ig allied still used mostly

should've read more

[compact knot]

that isnt bad on ST raid

so dw

[lavish seal]

i'll probably do signet then

[gentle terrace]

you can use double shadowflame for raid, yeah.

[lavish seal]

yeah currently using shawl+vamb shad

[compact knot]

OK SMF IS NOW A GO

[gentle terrace]

yeah you're good

[lavish seal]

since i havent played since s1, how come nobody lariat

i thought that was p bis

for well, like everyone

[past pivot]

It's average at best if you have full sockets

[lavish seal]

tbf im still 443

[past pivot]

Maybe later on

[compact knot]

lariat is going to be good in m+ with the bracers i think

[gentle terrace]

my enh I'm maining this season will use lariat once I hit 6 sockets,

[compact knot]

but it sucks st

[lavish seal]

ah

atm im just following wowhead and like only 2 things crafted are on it

[compact knot]

the nerf they did really gutted lariat a lil

[lavish seal]

oh

how did they nerf?

[compact knot]

well before it had higher uptime and didnt rely on gems for uptime on the buff

now you need all things gemmed and its still worse than before

[lavish seal]

yowza

[compact knot]

even with full gems

[lavish seal]

thats unfortunate

[compact knot]

i think its good in m+ with gems but not anywhere else

[lavish seal]

i see, okay, no worries, ill prob craft the signet

oh yeah aside from that too, not many people use crafted weaps too

[compact knot]

do signet and then the allied bracers

crafted weps are bad

[lavish seal]

is it limited ilvl?

or just bad

[compact knot]

cause myth track is higher now

[lavish seal]

o

[compact knot]

and lego too

[lavish seal]

ah

[oblique trail]

Lariat sims fairly competitively last I checked to my Shadowflame cloak on ST

With full sockets

[lavish seal]

how many sparks do we get anyways

so far i have 2(used) + 1

[compact knot]

rn its 4 crafted items this week

[lavish seal]

i lied i have 4

[compact knot]

and then in 2 itll be 5

[lavish seal]

think it's smart to build/make allied too including signet?

even tho i have vambraces already

[past pivot]

Allied are good for MT or ST so yeah

[compact knot]

its more value on aoe instantly the allied are

ST double sfp is better for sure, but any sort of aoe makes allied beter

also with higher ilvl allied might just be better on ST anyways

[past pivot]

Vers is a good stat for this expansion so allied has better value than just in AOE but you can't go wrong with either or both. The differences should pretty minimal either way.

[lavish seal]

my only concern is, it's not a waste to just use those 2 extra dreams on other parts of gear?

other than making a signet + some other gear

[lavish seal]

but this makes sense, if it's minimal, then i might just skip out on it

or are the other gear just much better since mythic upgrades/etc

[brittle phoenix]

It's still pretty good with full sockets

[past pivot]

Yes. If you're just getting back into the game, I'd just stick with what you have for now. Ring with great stats, socket and flavor packet is great QoL. Then after that, can fill a need. Belt or neck or wrists or w/e

[edgy widget]

it's not even that big for ST lol

the enrage is the biggest part of the effect, but it's kinda pointless in the current rage economy - kinda interesting because that talent looks crazy strong in early alpha (coming out of SL rage, where enrage uptime started at like 50%), but now it's basically worthless

[lavish seal]

thanks, i'll just keep it for the time being then, i'll figure out what to get once i get some better gear, kinda hard to get into keys rn lol

[weak tartan]

yo guys. I heared that season 4 will return dragonflight dungeons
is that true?

[summer quail]

we don't know

[ornate gust]

I don’t know. I will pass the season. I’m not a fan of fated raids.

[summer quail]

dungeons are speculation

[still swift]

@oblique trail why do we not get a dinar on christmas so we can buy any item we want from our vault pool??

i find this really unfair.

[deep niche]

all seasons raids not dungeons

[junior gale]

no one knows what the dungeon rotation will be but common sense and what they should do is just all the DF dungeons

[sullen wagon]

It'll be so aids if they don't remove DOTI

[clever belfry]

They won't

[still swift]

all DF raids all DF dungeons sounds... okay, not my favorite at all tbh but

[junior gale]

would be kinda weird if they dont do all 8 DF dungeons

only playing 1 season of all them kinda sucks

[edgy widget]

it'll probably be all DF dungeons, yeah

[junior gale]

cant wait to do AA again I miss that place

[sullen wagon]

I don't want to go in AV again

Pls spare me

[left perch]

“do you guys know the skip”

[junior gale]

AV pugs was always an interesting time

[still swift]

i dont wanna go do aa again with pugs

depleting on tree 90% of times..

[summer quail]

tree was fine after all the nerfs

[chilly fractal]

Wonder if they’ll do no caps on crests like they did Valor in S4 of SL

[junior gale]

yee the elemental or Crawth were the bosses that were Monka after Tree nerfs

[summer quail]

ye actually surprised elemental stayed like that, bricked so many keys

[unreal onyx]

puzzy box my beloved

[minor egret]

Does anyone here have the leggy?
I read the pinned msg but i wonder, on pull i need to charge reck for rage etc but if im in melee i can't get the channel effect for the 500k dmg right? So should we run out to be able to charge with it? ._.

[wary fjord]

sims show the bot doing a charge, then the channel, and then cooldowns, at least from what i last heard

[minor egret]

Yeah i saw that too, but does it want us to go out again to charge normally?

[wary fjord]

no

[minor egret]

But it only channels when you're outside of melee range, which confuses me

[chilly fractal]

No

[minor egret]

the effect only does the dot damage increase if you activate it in melee

[chilly fractal]

It doesn’t

It channels in melee

[minor egret]

oh it actually does im dumb

i was just moving while i did it ig

[oblique trail]

Idk I wish I had a dinar as well rn to buy my beloved augury..

Santa Ion I swear I've been good this year

[gentle zodiac]

Hello guys, nothing weird with the sims telling me to run 24% haste in m+ ?

[junior gale]

Trust the robot

[gentle zodiac]

doing top gear and after equiping all im at 24 !

[chilly fractal]

Good for you

[gentle zodiac]

i am, but if feels weird ahah

[chilly fractal]

Trust the robot

[minor egret]

Thanks guys for clearing the confusion

[unreal onyx]

why does it feel weird?

[junior gale]

Fury slurping up Vers Mastery rn

[oblique trail]

Fair, I honestly never looked into how strong it even was, but maybe it's just better to not even bother with it and keep 2x VC if you are gonna go SMF

[gentle zodiac]

when playing, it feels slow and weaker regarding the gameplay!

[still swift]

wish i had this

[slim coral]

Well it took 4 hours to get into one key today and it was a 25 everbloom luckily we timed it

[junior gale]

Did you link them Shattering Throw

[slim coral]

[oblique trail]

😔

You'll get something even better next vault

Believe

[wary fjord]

just look at the 400k crit BB's

number big

[chilly fractal]

You can buy a BoE Myth track helm with a socket if you got the gold for it

[wary fjord]

[unreal onyx]

I only bought boe myth track boots

not even tertiaries on them

[chilly fractal]

No terries

[unreal onyx]

my realm is small asf, there are literally 2 on the AH

[still swift]

this war also has a 483 signet brand

[oblique trail]

Deserved..

[junior gale]

My Tert luck was insane last season with 18% avoidance 14% leech and 12% speed and this season I have yet to get a single Tert

[wary fjord]

i miss my 19% avoidance at the end of last season

[chilly fractal]

Gold can be traded X server and X faction

[still swift]

hamstring is so based

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry

[clever belfry]

piercing howl baseline when

[clever belfry]

im omw home...

[oblique trail]

cleaved hamstring based

oly moly

pogging for you

[clever belfry]

been consuming poison for 10h...

[oblique trail]

I don't think thats good man..

[clever belfry]

+lorgok bangers in a warehouse...

[still swift]

i couldnt beat the other war anyway so

[storm rune]

Last vault I had 3 myth pieces with avoidance... It would've been nicer if they weren't all technically DPS losses over my hero gear

[oblique trail]

holy fk this is a banger (queue lorgok farming dreamwalker rep clip)

[oblique trail]

to me you're r1

[clever belfry]

u can beat me frfr

[still swift]

it wasnt even remotely close

[clever belfry]

U mean BRRRRRERR <holy fuck this is a banger bro bro> bonk bonk bonk

maybe join lorgok soundboard disc(s)...

[red berry]

does the helmet enchant scale to itemlevel

[still swift]

yes

@oblique trail pls help im gonna get shit on so badly

[red berry]

wtf. that much luck??? cosmo, wanda I hope they go to h

[dire vigil]

Since fury warrior falls behind in large pulls in m+, what would happen if talenting into Storm of Swords increased +4 target cleave to uncapped damage with drop off past the 5 targets. Seems like an easy fix for mass AOE, at least. The storm of swords AOE would also effectively replace Ravager for mass AOE since a typical SOS build and Ravager build are counterparts (Annih vs Raging Blow + Execute track)

[hard widget]

Imagine getting buffed 👀

[dire vigil]

I just started watching your upload from like 15 mins ago. That’s what got my thoughts flowing

The -100k DPS in BRH is completely unacceptable lol

[hard widget]

Oh shit nice 😄

Yep its fun isnt it

[dire vigil]

It’s rough. I love playing my warrior but when I face roll my Havoc at 20 less ilvl and get the same results on big pulls, it’s annoying

[hard widget]

I doubt me talking about it will do much but yea

[hard widget]

I made a dh alt just to see, i outdpsed my warrior since 462 ilvl with 2 set 3 days of playing xd

[dire vigil]

Same!

[junior gale]

Waiting for Critcakes I am upset 2

[hard widget]

Critcake has a bit more reach than me 😅

[idle osprey]

WTF do I take?

[true sapphire]

for what

[idle osprey]

Actually

Stupid AF Question

I revoke it

[dire vigil]

Buffing Storm of swords to increase cleave number seems like an extremely simple, non-invasive way to significantly help mass AOE

[molten relic]

they would need to cap cold steel hot blood

[dire vigil]

That’s fine, make it all the typical (effectiveness drop in >8 targets)

[red berry]

remember when they nerfed CSHB

[molten relic]

soft cap is still an issue

we heal from the damage

if u have the dot on 20 targets

its a problem

lol

and any buff to our target count would prob get our ST nerfed

we swap 2 talents and have basically our full aoe

and all we lose is some execute damage and massacre lol

[hard widget]

We have many issues as warrior

We dont bring utility nor damage

[molten relic]

Target cap biggest issue tbh- but they wouldnt realistically address that without nerfing our ST to compensate

I'd rather be "Fine" in M+ and have our current ST

than get nerfed ST to just have softcapped aoe

[hard widget]

Issue is, our st isnt THAT great either

Its being overexadurated quite a bit

If u filter boss dmg were bottom

Only reason we look mid is because we got a lot of pad fights that work with odyns

[dire vigil]

I agree. ST is fine, pop off in the OF to Avatar block with might which is fun, but just “fine” throughput

The biggest fury drawback is lack of damage in large pulls. Fix that with one buff to one ability, which also would have zero effect on the typical 3-5 target pull

[molten relic]

I mean

we'

we're 7th on volocross in 95th percentile

behind 3 rogues, enhance and both dks

our ST is not bad lol

[hard widget]

You are isolating volcaross

[molten relic]

we're talking about ST no?

[hard widget]

Yeah but that boss is giga toxic for anything not melee\

[dire vigil]

But 7th place in a largely stationary fight is not overwhelming enough to chop it while also fixing mass AOE niche

[oblique trail]

I don't have any invites for any of them bro..

[oblique trail]

God bless this individual for it's about to get messy (this individual has paid Ion under the table at least 50 dollars to get instant access to the orange flavour text item)

[dire vigil]

SOS cleave buff is a niche use for helping AOE on the “start key with big pull with lust” situation and the use case of pulling easy adds into a boss fight

The stair bat pull shouldn’t be shit for fury outside of storm of swords and TR casts

[still swift]

and banezi

it gets worse

[dire vigil]

Who is our resident warrior class designer?

[warm crag]

oly moly ..

[oblique trail]

gg you know why

this person

deserves(n't) this

[twin glacier]

The low key legendary flex

[left perch]

deserves(n’t)

[autumn mica]

@hard widget Try without aug, its pumpmode

[still swift]

it went about as expected

[oblique trail]

you are still nr.1 to me

don't let legendary abusers make you think otherwise

I've yet to do a single key with any legendary abusers so my frail ego has yet to be bruised

[still swift]

i dont think he used the legendary once

[oblique trail]

It's all consolidated

[still swift]

its all dot

[oblique trail]

Under the dot

For some reason

[still swift]

o is it

[oblique trail]

If you hover over it, you should be able to see like 450k hit or something

[errant vessel]

Why tie the solution to a general problem that we’ve had to SoS though?

[oblique trail]

250k would've been 500k if he was skilled enough to crit..

(maybe)

[still swift]

(maybe)

[oblique trail]

Idk the legendary is a mystery to me

At this point all of the detail breakdowns might as well be photoshopped to me

[errant vessel]

Did they haste the on use effect as well btw?

[true sapphire]

This is where I'm at, why tie the solution to a capstone (especially one that we aren't currently running)?

[oblique trail]

It's only the dot that's hasted

[errant vessel]

We’re running SoS to get Annihilator wdym?

[true sapphire]

Was thinking storm of steel, mb

[errant vessel]

Ahhh

[noble elm]

Why do tanks pull so small it hurts my soul

[serene charm]

is this good to craft and use my crest on?

[true sapphire]

Just keep running keys you'll get weapon I promise. I've been running since week one and finally got my hero track weapons on thursday.

[errant vessel]

No don’t do that - you’re gonna change it and it’s 2x sparks

[serene charm]

Okey, I'm just lost on what to use my crest and spark on right now

[serene charm]

Alright, any idea what I should use my spark/crest on then?

Haven't used it yet

[true sapphire]

Haven't used any sparks?

[serene charm]

Not the spark of dreams at least

and the crest

[true sapphire]

Shadowflame cloak and Shadowflame(or) Vers embellish wrists.

[errant vessel]

I did Shadowflame cloak+Shadowflame boots (so I can use engi wrists in M+), but most others went for Vers wrists+Shadowflame cloak

[serene charm]

Should I use my crest on that too?

[true sapphire]

Those two are typically first crafts for fury woryur.

[serene charm]

I see

[true sapphire]

Followed by a ring or a neck (with alchemical flavor packet) if you haven't gotten lucky on those slots.

[oblique trail]

Ring is typically favoured since it's guaranteed socket in a non-guaranteed slot

[dire vigil]

Minimally invasive to the spec and effectively serves as a regular counterpart to the perks that Ravager gives us every 30-45 seconds or so when using the raging blow build and Anger Management. Ravager is that build’s uncapped AOE solution. Buffing SOS would be the annihilator/bloodthirst build’s solution.

[oblique trail]

Compared to necks where you can just insta add 3 sockets regardless of the neck, and we have a great neck you can farm in BRH/DHT depending on the rest of your gear, although ideally you'd want to go for the BRH neck

[serene charm]

When you guys say ''shadowflame cloak'' what item is that? I'm new to the expansion sorry

[oblique trail]

It's the wildercloth shawl but with a shadowflame patch attached

[true sapphire]

It's a cloak with the "Shadowflame Tempered Armor Patch" added as an embellishment

[oblique trail]

When you make a crafting order for it, you can add embellishments, as for any other general crafted item that doesn't already have an embellishment/special effect (i.e the hourglass ring with a teleport can't have an embellishment)

[serene charm]

Oh I see

Will do it right now, thanks a lot

[dire vigil]

Hoping for an entire revamp to a spec is not that feasible. Fixing a solution and tethering it to a core ability for a build is reasonable, buffs a niche use case, and doesn’t derail class fantasy that Blizz wants to adhere to

[serene charm]

Should I add the crest to the cloak or save it?

[radiant wedge]

use it

no point saving them

[hard widget]

Waiting for tuning since last patch exodia

[serene charm]

Alright will do

[oblique trail]

Using a Wyrms is fine if you still have aspect gear to upgrade

[still swift]

poor guy

[dire vigil]

The “Slayer” hero talent class fantasy for Fury

[radiant wedge]

i didnt craft any enchanted wyrms, just used the 2 you get from campaign

[oblique trail]

🦀 🪞

[serene charm]

Sucks my weapons are holding my ivl lback, I guess just running m+ is the fastest way to get new ones?

[misty parcel]

What's the point of crab and mirror ? I saw someone else with that today

[summer quail]

yes, just spam like brh. dungeon is super easy

[compact knot]

its just good lol

thats it

[unreal onyx]

yes

[oblique trail]

They're good trinkets, but arguably better options

[unreal onyx]

or 1st boss raid

[compact knot]

i mean there is better

[serene charm]

Okey

[summer quail]

i don't like mirror for m+, can desync

[compact knot]

moto and augury bis imo

[unreal onyx]

moto?

[summer quail]

might of the ocean

[unreal onyx]

[dire vigil]

And while they’re at it, just increase the empowerment amp that RA provides to BT and RB by 3%. There’s your single target buff.

[unreal onyx]

first time I see it being called moto

[meager void]

thats not a thing

[summer quail]

tbf never heard someone call it moto either

[compact knot]

moto goes hard right?

[unreal onyx]

no

[meager void]

stahp

[still swift]

🦀 🪞! 🦀 🪞! 👁️ 🦀 👷🏻 📱 🏪 🙆🏻

[compact knot]

saying might of the ocean is too much

moto is big

[meager void]

might

[still swift]

moto dn

[unreal onyx]

or just do what everyone else does

call it might

[twin glacier]

Ppl say might.

[oblique trail]

👁️ 🕳️ ❤️

[compact knot]

moto one less letter

[misty parcel]

moto won't drop for me

[compact knot]

im lettermaxxing rn

[unreal onyx]

im progressmaxxing rn

only raidlogging

[oblique trail]

already hate this term

[still swift]

what

[oblique trail]

eye (w)hole heart(edly) agree

[compact knot]

eyeholeheartnod

[unreal onyx]

[still swift]

oh

did u get my meme tho

[oblique trail]

no because my brain is so fking fried rn

I'm so sorry

for letting you down

[compact knot]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-shower-bath-soap-gif-16388990

[still swift]

its ok

as long as u get good trinkets next reset u didnt

[oblique trail]

If I don't I might as well /gg irl

[compact knot]

just get 489 moto or 489 rge

[still swift]

o?

[misty parcel]

what are you using then ?

[unreal onyx]

stop it with the crude abbreviations

[compact knot]

or perchance a 483 csb

[still swift]

:(

[serene charm]

best stats for fury this exp? is it mastery/haste still?

[still swift]

now ur just mean to banezi

[still swift]

its like crit vers or sth

[oblique trail]

pain

[serene charm]

okey

[compact knot]

why did you bait him

[unreal onyx]

crit?

wat

[compact knot]

its not critvers

LOL

[still swift]

shh

issa meme..

[misty parcel]

these are the trinkets I have

[unreal onyx]

spreading misinformation

[compact knot]

CS

[still swift]

cant be misinformation if i crafted that

[oblique trail]

I use a 483 might of the ocean and 483 ember of nullification because I'm so fucking down bad for trinkets

that I have nothing better for m+

[summer quail]

80% crit without reck. 100% with, guaranteed cdr

[misty parcel]

I'm usually using the red sht ( instead of might of the ocean ) and rezan/the smolderon one depending on mm+/raid

is that correct ?

[unreal onyx]

ember? you're actually down bad

[still swift]

yea i also need something better

[oblique trail]

it's better than using rezans dookie peeper

[misty parcel]

I don't even know what ember is

[oblique trail]

it's a str + vers trinket from blackrook

[unreal onyx]

just loot augury

it's not that hard

[oblique trail]

literally just a stat stick

[misty parcel]

augury won't drop lol

[unreal onyx]

get it in vault

[misty parcel]

Trying to

won't drop krkr

[unreal onyx]

I have triple heroic this week

surely I get it, right?

[misty parcel]

rezan's bad ?

[still swift]

for aoe probably

[summer quail]

have you tried not playing on the korean server

[oblique trail]

For keys there are better options

[unreal onyx]

rezans is pretty underwhelming in keys, compared to might or augury

[misty parcel]

How's that ?

[summer quail]

you said krkr

kr=korea

[misty parcel]

krkr is a way of laughing

like jaja, aha, whatever

[unreal onyx]

where

[summer quail]

ngl i thought you meant to say "frfr"

[unreal onyx]

same

[misty parcel]

Not at all ^^

[late escarp]

what gems should I use for my 3 sockets on neck piece?

[unreal onyx]

whatever sim tells you

[narrow narwhal]

Run the numbers doc

[wicked plinth]

The purple ones

[late escarp]

yeah the Zen's are simming higher than everything

nice, thanks peeps

[keen forum]

are OF/TR soft capped at 20? anyone know off hand

[vague sand]

You can have as many onlyfans subscriptions as u want afaik

[keen forum]

lol

[gilded pawn]

everything in the game is capped at 20

[keen forum]

income is a soft cap i suppose

[gilded pawn]

and its actaully hard capped

[vague sand]

Im sure its sopft capped at 8

hard cap at 20

[gilded pawn]

of is soft 8

tr is 20

they never added into the of tooltip

[junior gale]

blizzard tooltip moment

[serene charm]

so haste/crit best no?

[compact knot]

sim

[gilded pawn]

haste crit worst

also im fairly sure someone removed my 40/40/10/10

i dont think i did it

[summer quail]

oh wtf, i was sure you did it

[gilded pawn]

i dont remember doing it at least

ping a mod

ask for audit logs

[summer quail]

no longer 40/40/10/10 on bloodmallet anyway, your name got removed for misinformation clearly

[icy plinth]

Hello, is having a 431 ilvl offhand going to effect my dmg a lot? (483 mainhand)

[radiant wedge]

well yes

[strong tusk]

You’ll do more dmg with a higher ilvl offhand

[icy plinth]

So better stick to arms untill i loot a second weap..alright thanks!

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[strong tusk]

You can still play fury lol!

[covert blaze]

based

[wild mural]

Next week for sure

[noble elm]

You can also use a 1h

Some scenarios where it might be better if there’s a massive ilvl difference

Some being very few

[spiral oasis]

Every pug I've done today has felt like we always have one person to carry

dumb assassination rogue keeps running right back to yazma as soon as they soulrend and refuse to kill or CC souls

[covert blaze]

always true no matter when you read it

[odd stone]

Weird… I get not knowing mechanics but that one repeats quite a few times… like just copy what everyone else is doing

[spiral oasis]

Our tank had to reset boss 4 times on a 23 because everyone but me and him died

I shoud have bailed when I saw our rogue run rezan through the fucking raptor puddles

[vale dove]

how much does our overall improve with the lego?

[spiral oasis]

like 3-5% from what I've heard

[placid plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9CcllInQTc&lc=Ugze9ku71pQT8GKhQI54AaABAg.9ygIwkHCLz49ygLZrtk0Oq Sad truth 😦

[narrow narwhal]

I'm not watching a garbage dooming video

[vale dove]

fair enough still not enough with the state of m+ atm

this week im getting like 250k average overall

[spiral oasis]

This week is just not a pug week I think

And neither will next week lmao

[vale dove]

I do feel pretty meh in m+ compared to my DH and Hunter 😂

[hard widget]

Pog thats me

[vale dove]

Shoulda looked at over the last week / day after all them buffs that just happened

[hard widget]

Not enough data yet

But warrior didnt receive changes and the nerfs to dh/rogue are only (4% aoe for dh) (3% aoe rogue) so it wont do much

If anything it pushes us down further

[vale dove]

thats what i mean

it will push us down

with WW / Ele buffs

to name a few

[narrow narwhal]

We are fine in 20s

[vale dove]

ye every class is

20s are the new 16s 😄

[spiral oasis]

😬

[wild mural]

Unless you read it after getting it - surely I can get a 2nd one

[covert blaze]

how do you get something that doesn't exist

[wild mural]

I have powers beyond the imagination of mortals

[left perch]

two axe confirmed blue post

doesn’t say unique

[amber wraith]

im new to fury should i use t31 talent builds even without tier set?

[wild mural]

syi with the magical furry power

[olive wraith]

No

[placid plover]

Today I was at DHT 24, Outlaw had 340k overall, BM 270k, me as fury 220k.. Failed on 3rd boss. Hunter left, then he DM me that I'm boosted trash..

[hard widget]

:S

[proud crown]

dps thiefs

[placid plover]

I have 3240 rio and still just feel so bad. I want to do some damage. But I understand why ppl do not want warriors in m+ on high keys.

[proud crown]

did you tell him 5% of his dmg was yours

[jovial rover]

I just do 20-22s for the vault. No way I'm trying to q for high pugs.

[placid plover]

I did WM25 yesterday. Still damage wise 20% below top dps rogue that run. On bosses we were kinda even but trash... 1.5m CD vs. 1min CD is so much big difference.

Decrease Rec and Ava to 15% from 20%, but give it 1 min CD so we can be useful in all pulls not just every other pull and in between hitting like wet noodle.

[young swan]

u could just reduce the cd of them and it would be fine

[hard widget]

Yeah no need to nerf the effects

By nerfing the effect from 20 -> 15 ur essentially nerfing them by 25% but gaining 33% from lesser cooldown meaning an 8% net buff to avatar/reck

Dont think thats the solution tho

[young swan]

not fond of reck as a cd

make it 50% crit and 50% rage gen

instead of 20% crit and 100% rage gen

[hard widget]

What annoys me more is the 20% procrate from rampage

Making us a casino spec

[young swan]

UF definitely feels like shit without onslaught

[hard widget]

In st raid i legit feel like im playing slots

[hardy cargo]

crit dmg on reck would be nice too

would make it feel like an actual cd

[hard widget]

If i proc recks i win on dps, if i dont im nowhere to be found

[hardy cargo]

instead of a little bit more rage for 12s

[young swan]

make that depths of insanity like i suggested months ago

the rage is actually pretty integral to our burst feeling substantial

[hard widget]

The biggest issue IMO is that we dont deal any demage what so ever outside of cds

[young swan]

10-20% crit dam

[hard widget]

Odyns is fun, but it is nothing on a pack

[young swan]

on depths

or something

[hallow sphinx]

stolen valor

[young swan]

that was literally my idea

[hardy cargo]

quite a based idea

[hallow sphinx]

xan talks to me, takes what ill say and pass it on as his own

[hard widget]

Did you see the comparison of dmg done in dungeons i did Xan?

[young swan]

????

[hallow sphinx]

17 paragrapsh 20% slam buff

[hard widget]

The % diff between us and others

[young swan]

nah i dont think so

[hardy cargo]

real

[young swan]

i know its stark tho

[fossil pond]

allied wristguards or molten for crafted?

[covert blaze]

👨‍🦼

[hard widget]

Ill dm you, because reasons

[young swan]

bm, roque, dh just gapping us

[covert blaze]

roque is very good cheese yes

🤌

[hardy cargo]

cheese is yellow yes

[placid plover]

WW are new chaps tbh.. On ad 20 the WW with 470 ilvl and shit trinkets did like 30% more dps then me lol.. I was so pissed

I was on same dps as Hunter but WW was mile above us.

[still swift]

i got outdpsd on the dragon boss in a low falls key by a 450 ww

[placid plover]

[still swift]

the blight thing

wicked

[noble elm]

Ww can be decent if the player is decent

I dunno bout 30% tho lol

[lucid owl]

how important is it to use avatar before the titan torment avatar falls off from odyn fury?

[hard widget]

You lose 20% dmg for on every global u use in between

So if you use bb empowered by ur odyns outside of the procced avatar you virtually lose 20% dmg on that

[naive umbra]

You guys running shadowflame or leg embellishment for keys? seems pretty even on raider.io

[hard widget]

Most people play shadowflame since they're raidcrafted

[naive umbra]

on cloak looks like?

[hard widget]

Usually cloaks boots wrists

Either of those

[nova lintel]

i love my class balanced around an rng legendary 🙂

[half badger]

Is it worth doing normal and LFR for more chance at the lego it is it one kill per week?

[gilded pawn]

no

just do highest you can

[half badger]

Cheers

[red dirge]

aye AOTC

[wicked flicker]

why such low aoe dps compared to other specs in m+?

[molten relic]

We are target capped

But in 5 targets we crank

[young swan]

no we dont

!

[molten relic]

[young swan]

that might be

[molten relic]

Cleave tier set bonus when

[young swan]

the biggest issue with the spec atm

5 target lock

[molten relic]

That we should crank in 5t

But we don’t

[young swan]

but get shit on by random uncapped specs

in 5 tar

[molten relic]

Ya

I feel like if we are hard capped

We should crank

More than we do

Tier set bonus should cleave

Though might be too op idk

[jovial rover]

If you're capped at 5 targets you should do more damage than uncapped classes at 5 targets or less.

Or uncap our shit

[static nest]

they never will

but mage needed buffs tho

uwu

[molten relic]

Did a 22 waycrest with a pally that had leggo

Mf did 275k overall

[summer quail]

with or without aug

?

[molten relic]

Without

Might’ve been inflated by shades tho idk if details filters that shit out

[summer quail]

it does not filter shades

[thin dew]

What are the best m+ trinkets for us lads?

[static nest]

might/fyrakk/signet if you manage to never lose stacks/rezan

[modest condor]

definitely not rezan

better passive trinkets would be crab, block, pips or sandglass

might and augury are clear best tho

mirror is an alternative to might if you are unlucky in throne

[past pivot]

Might and Augury. If you don’t have those. Crab is a great option. Can also look at Gore. Pips. Mirror.

[thin dew]

I have 489 sunglass 483 Mirror / rezan / signet / branch which combo would you use?

(I guess i should chase for might)

[summer quail]

if possible you should yeah

[thin dew]

and combo it with sunglass or signet depending on dung i guess?

[summer quail]

ye prob with sandglass out of those, tho crab would be better

[thin dew]

so ill just have to spam TOT as it seems 😄

thanks sirs

[red dirge]

feels nice slapping ret's

[winter shoal]

Flex on em bud

[iron portal]

Have a good time all of you folks during these merry times. Hope you will have good time , good food and good people around you

Good loot also an option

[fiery harbor]

hey guys, what are your thought on fury on season 3 so far

i love the damage and the big crits but i do miss having 40%+ base haste like in last season x)

[summer quail]

Good in raid, meh in m+(atleast compared to meta)

[modest condor]

i like how much prio target burst we have in m+ during our cooldowns, but our overall damage and especially outside of the 1.5min burst our dps feels so low

[subtle lagoon]

You better hope you get lucky with bt/bb crits

[tidal kindle]

Tier set crit/dam effects not affected by meat cleaver

[subtle lagoon]

At times it feels really nice always having OF up

[molten relic]

Feels so bad

[timid notch]

@tidal kindle ya grams ya grams where are you ya grams

[fiery harbor]

yeah that sucks

[molten relic]

They coulda just done like 50% effective on secondary targets

[fiery harbor]

they are holding us back because they are scared of us

[clever path]

They’re holding us back because we never sandbag

We gotta start lying on beta

Kek

[arctic tinsel]

Seems like all i needed was legendary on week 1 to parse a bit 😂

Still wondering how real pros do it with no leggo you the real mvp

[winter shoal]

I mean it's only like a 5% increase over a 489 weap

It's a lot but nowhere near the difference good play makes

[modest condor]

usually just killing a boss faster than other people gets you pretty close to a 99 already

[winter shoal]

Parses in the 75-90 range tend to be really close anyways where like a few % in either direction can have an outsized change on your parse, but the opposite tends to be true in the 96-100 range

In other words, leggo could very easily take you from a 75 to a 90, but it's unlikely to take you to a 99 unless you were already doing 90s without it

For example on volcoross, there's as big of a dps gap between 75and 90 (209 vs 218k) as there is between 95 and 99 (223-232k)

[meager gyro]

finally got a damn ring on main

[steep fable]

Apologies if this has already been posted 85 times...

Legendary bugged? Or is it just spread across all the other damage categories?

[summer bobcat]

I have around 20% haste and I know weighting stats is not a good way to sim your dps but goddamn my hero feels so slow

[meager gyro]

legendary is just shit, get used to it
no warrior buff, shit leggo - we out here doing our best in C tier spec

[runic pine]

C tier is a bit harsh

[meager gyro]

no b/c everything else got buffed

[steep fable]

And here I thought we were undertuned this whole time because the legendary was supposed to be awesome

[runic pine]

there's literally 4 melee specs doing better than us in raid

[dense elbow]

I wouldn't argue with a SMF player

[runic pine]

and 2 of them are rogue

[meager gyro]

tru

my math is flawless, it's C tier rating

[dense elbow]

TG is B at worst tho

[meager gyro]

TG A tier really

[dense elbow]

Content type?

[meager gyro]

m+

[dense elbow]

Fair

[meager gyro]

raid, all warrior is tier

[winter shoal]

Fury is good in raid

Arms is mid but fine

[runic pine]

huh

[meager gyro]

but muh logs

[runic pine]

rogue>DH>Enhance>Fury

🤔

[winter shoal]

1. all bosses when there are so few public logs on TSwift/Fyrakk is dumb
2. link your logs if you're gonna use 99% as a reference

[meager gyro]

it does fine, it's not unplayable, just sucks when the only thing you bring to raid is a rogue/hunter buff

[runic pine]

we're at least the best class that can equip the lego

[wild parrot]

Hi

[runic pine]

if you look at non mythic all bosses (since mythic is a bit hit or miss) it shows a different picture

just sayin