fury

[clever path]

i love wiping to normal council

[still swift]

@oblique trail

[clever path]

[dire mortar]

Do lfr,nm,hc,mythic in that order. For 4 times dopamine boost.

[unreal onyx]

or high amounts of copium

[covert blaze]

Did the bear free cast for an hour or what

[clever path]

we need a :cope: emote

and its ember icon

[clever path]

no one unrage it

[little river]

Thank you

[clever path]

and it just

charged

and oneshot the group

[vale dove]

standard

[covert blaze]

?

[clever path]

nah we need new emote

blp = cope token

[covert blaze]

Yeah that's a classic

[clever path]

do you even get the charge debuff

[covert blaze]

No

But the boss is giga enraged from casting

[clever path]

ye

[oblique trail]

@still swift

[still swift]

look

[oblique trail]

HOLY MOLY

[unreal onyx]

big gainz

[clever path]

thats bis offpiece

[still swift]

:pog:

[oblique trail]

Pogging so hard

[clever path]

OH

SOCKET

????????

[still swift]

very BASED

[oblique trail]

yeah that's gg

[solemn widget]

when using spear you want to aim it at the boss and stand in it correct I realize thats a basic question but im trying to understand it better I think im having brain fog or something lol

[covert blaze]

That is a big helm

[oblique trail]

so happy 4 u

[unreal onyx]

be at boss, throw, stand in it

[slim coral]

It must contact the boss and you must stand inside circle

[oblique trail]

next reset when you can catalyse you'll be gaming

[unreal onyx]

profit

[covert blaze]

Banezi when someone posts a trinket drop

[oblique trail]

I have a very hard time being happy for someone when they get the lego or trinket and I don't have it

but this time

genuine happy

[covert blaze]

[still swift]

tune in tomorrow when i do hc smolderon and class stack so only i can get it

[oblique trail]

Would be pog if you get it (I will still be sad because I don't have it)

[still swift]

i would not post it here

so i dont hurt ur feelings

[eternal sundial]

subtweeting syi here fuck lego havers

[oblique trail]

so thoughtful

[unreal onyx]

real

(until I get mine saturday)

[last yoke]

There are downsides to having it

No more upgrades

[oblique trail]

ok hot choccy then bedge so happy for you @still swift you're ramping

[oblique trail]

being done with gearing is great

then I can without any guilt just raidlog

[unreal onyx]

if I get leggo I am basically done

all gear is just +6 ilvl for me after

[clever path]

i love people who target urctos

i love blizz

cool game

[dire mortar]

Cringe is, when a trash alt dk gets leggo and dont boother getting it.

[clever path]

its insane how i hate this boss on every single difficulty

[still swift]

enjoy choccyyy

[last yoke]

That's a warcrime

[oblique trail]

omg thank youu

[keen shuttle]

i have 2x 447 2h weapons but i got a 441 1h and the 1h from fyrakk hc, should i just play 2x 1h until i get better 2h?

[oblique trail]

You can sim it but at that disparity then SMF will likely just be better

[clever path]

sounds like a 2h+1h angle

[unreal onyx]

or smf

[clever path]

441 1h has a lot less weapon dps/mainstat

than 447 2h

hc gholak has more weapon dps

than a 447 2h

the gap should absolutely be bigger than 5%

and then you are also losing talent points by having to talent into smf

[keen shuttle]

ok ashkandur or stats? (ashkandur is 441 as well)

[edgy widget]

running weekly is a bad idea - should change that to latest

[clever path]

sim

[hazy bay]

do i have to do lfr fyrrak for a chance for the legendary axe if i already did normal?

[sand nacelle]

no

[still swift]

normal signet lost

heroic next

[slim coral]

Real

[unreal onyx]

"woyer has enough util"

[keen kindle]

Because warrior has none 🙂

[clever path]

real

[velvet crypt]

That is actually so good

[unreal onyx]

do other classes change their build for m+?

I only play warrior so I don't change anything

[velvet crypt]

is dungeon slice good to sim for warriors?

[velvet crypt]

yes

[clever path]

havoc changes like 2 talents

[unreal onyx]

and other classes

why does this wa exist in the first place

[clever path]

grats

[left perch]

Aug has a build per dungeon / affix

price of being useful

[clever path]

ye but the spec can be played by an infant

[unreal onyx]

giga big

[unreal onyx]

didn't know that

kinda crazy

[left perch]

1 button macro spec says infant lol

[clever path]

not saying fury cant

[left perch]

It’s a little over optimized - you could prolly do the same for fury

“Oh there’s shields in here, we should take shattering”, etc

[tight igloo]

That's the only thing though

[velvet crypt]

I mean most classes can change for situations

[unreal onyx]

fury can't change a whole lot

compared to others at least

[left perch]

Yea and it’s likely more expensive to do

[unreal onyx]

spec tree is basically forced with tier

[still swift]

banezi is gonna hate me..

[snow edge]

Only if you got Augury

[fluid dune]

if i have a good one hand weapon should i use it

?

[unreal onyx]

real answer is sim

feelycraft answer is set lootspec to arms, and only use it if the ilvl diff between a 2H you have is very big

[left perch]

only titan grips the right answer

[wicked gazelle]

i said this is bit back but was told i was trolling

[young swan]

no its semi real

[wicked gazelle]

There isnt really a skillgap right now

[young swan]

at the very least u can cram the entire opener in

[wicked gazelle]

my opinion incase it starts another roit

riot*

[left perch]

I have frequently had cs macros bug out on me, and that ends up ruining a lot of CDs for me

so semi real, but idk if I would “try” it when I needed it to work right

[wicked gazelle]

ive been using the ramp bb macro in m+

[left perch]

That one isn’t cs

[hardy fog]

We play accountant wow. Skill gap is in sims.

[unreal onyx]

what's the ramp bb macro

[young swan]

its exactly what it sounds like

[unreal onyx]

bind 2 abilities in 1?

[young swan]

yes

[icy panther]

#showtooltip Rampage
/use Bloodbath
/cast Rampage

[unreal onyx]

that seems very unnessesary

[summer quail]

it is

[unreal onyx]

the only macro I have is might + avatar

(and spear on player but idk if you can count that)

[hardy fog]

if have mad, use anger. If not, generate mad. Seems like a top tier macro to me.

[young swan]

its only really useful in the opener

[summer quail]

if you're gonna macro might macro it to reck instead

[young swan]

otherwise ur probably just not gonna use it

[unreal onyx]

why's that?

[summer quail]

you're missing out on might for odyns if you macro it to avatar

[unreal onyx]

fair

[covert blaze]

cause you do damage before popping avatar

[unreal onyx]

but then I waste a lil bit when I do opener

[cosmic lance]

You have avatar for most of reck as well from casting odyns

[unreal onyx]

reck+might-charge-ramp

[young swan]

then dont macro it

[summer quail]

i just press it manually, right before OF

[covert blaze]

if you actually care you cast it manually

[clever path]

you prob shouldnt tbf

[unreal onyx]

(i don't care a lot)

[snow edge]

Just never get a Might to drop and you don't have to worry about it

[hardy fog]

gigabrain

[unreal onyx]

I got 3 mights so far

[clever path]

if you pop might on your odyn you get to empower it

the last 10 seconds of avatar are useless anyway

[hardy fog]

Well thats just silly, you can only equip 2.

[young swan]

u actually cant

[clever path]

🤓

[young swan]

🤓

[unreal onyx]

I guess I'll macro it to reck then

and increase my overall DPS by +1.482k

[clever path]

idk i just press it

on a bind

[unreal onyx]

my keybinds are so bad already

I can't afford to bind another thing and then forget to press it for at least a week

[meager gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-23331422

[covert blaze]

pretty big number

[eternal pumice]

When is might acctualy good when u have signet

[clever path]

on short fights

and m+

[urban drum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpAU32jjHoE

bro lol are any of yall actually doing this?

[velvet crypt]

Is whirlwind range from you or your target, and is it just melee range?

[frosty heron]

yo guys

whats prio button now bt proc or rampage ?

[dense elbow]

BT

[frosty heron]

i just respec'ed to fury from arms

[frosty heron]

sir revvez doin this

[velvet crypt]

I am confused, how do u get enough rage to just spam it

[dense elbow]

Reck

[jovial rover]

You don't it just stop you from pressing a rampage when you had a bb up. Help to stop brain dead people like me from pressing rampage because muscle memory.

[unreal onyx]

if you are still conditioned to press ramp whenever it goes up you didn't play enough s3 and too much s2

took me some time to adjust once I got 4p but that macro seems unnessesary (to me)

[jovial rover]

Nah I'm brain damaged and the pattern won't leave for a while.

[unreal onyx]

but it's a way to make a easy rotation even easier

[velvet crypt]

Wait u press bloodbath even if it overcaps?

[chrome relic]

Yes

[jovial rover]

Yes

[velvet crypt]

Crisp

[chrome relic]

Rampage exists to give bloodbath

[jovial rover]

All abilities are just there to generate rage for a rampage to give bb. All hail bb.

[velvet crypt]

Only existing to bb

[summer quail]

?

[clever path]

does he even play the game anymore

he usually just stops playing after rwf

[frosty heron]

i think i saw at some point on the rwf a macro on his bar changing like this

[summer quail]

i highly doubt it

[clever path]

besides an occasional boost or his prot arc in s4 sl

[velvet crypt]

[dense elbow]

[dusky grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/how-to-train-your-dragon-gif-23356423

[velvet crypt]

wtf were trhey cooking making that icon btw

[dense elbow]

It speaks for itself

[summer quail]

it's how we feel when entering execute phase

[unreal onyx]

VC is the better execute than execute

[clever path]

much better

[velvet crypt]

What is prio in terms of execute, seems like every guide is different

Is it bb - rampage - execute - bloodthirst?

or bb - exe - rampage - bloodthirst

or a 3rd

[summer quail]

depends on talents and execute phase. if you have ashen jugg it's bb>exe>ramp

[unreal onyx]

I use exe as a slam replacement

[summer quail]

ofc if you're inside spear just do bb>ramp for the duration even in exe phase

[velvet crypt]

really

[clever path]

even top logs are different

[velvet crypt]

exe doesnt do more?

[clever path]

it seems like its irrelevant tbh

i went through some logs

a lot of them

imo on raw odyns i would prio ramp over exe

cause u can get 2 bbs in avatar

and in spear

also to me it seems like they keep the buff up and then if they can bb>ramp they do that if not then execute

and then there are logs of people doing bb>exe>ramp

[velvet crypt]

So just whichever one u feel like shines the brightest

[clever path]

i would bb>exe>ramp and bb>ramp in odyns' avatar and in spear

[velvet crypt]

so like m+ build u defo just use it as slam replacement right

[summer quail]

this is what i do

[clever path]

ye thats what i do as well

went through a bunch of logs and people doing different shit

applied some logic and cba thinking about it

[rustic light]

hi guys when playing 2p/2p I still play s2 build?

[clever path]

in m+ yes

in st you play t31

[rustic light]

cool thanks

but in m+ i should switch to 2p/2p right

[clever path]

t30 4p > t31 2p + t30 2p

the latter doesnt really work imo

in m+

you would have to play odyns + anni

with no cdr

from 4p

[rustic light]

ah kk then I'll keep the 4set untill I can make 4 set

[mighty grotto]

Why do pro’s go bloodcraze instead of slaughtering strikes talents? Just started gearing my old warr from s1 and alot has changed with new t31 set

[mossy fox]

sure has

bloodcraze sims higher than slaughtering

[unreal onyx]

significantly

or is that a minmax thing

[summer quail]

slaughtering weak af atm

[clever path]

slaughtering is just weak as shit

with anni

its like 2%

[mighty grotto]

Watching your videos that made me Ask. Thanks for the answer. Should you go it Even IF you dont go dancing blades?

[still swift]

hello?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1005217471558594590.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

where

[clever path]

nice fight length

[still swift]

2 minutes and 42 seconds!!!

[mossy fox]

bottom one is ss for me

[still swift]

[mossy fox]

it sucks until 15 stacks

[unreal onyx]

so it is worth to switch

if it was like 600dps I would've been like "naahh idc too much"

[mossy fox]

honestly you're not gonna notice an overall dps change with either

[still swift]

how will i ever get 15 stacks

crazy

[mossy fox]

and neither change how you play

[wild mural]

st

[unreal onyx]

what fight length?

signet did 5.4% overall in a 6:45 smolderon kill for me

augury 6.06%

[wild mural]

uh we wiped idk when I died

3rd intermission on smolderon?

[calm mantle]

Timed my first 22 key, lets go.

[wild mural]

we kill it this time I show u then

[calm mantle]

with 22 seconds left

[unreal onyx]

gaming

[unreal onyx]

I wanna see at least a 99 log

[calm mantle]

Now I can leave rise alone for awhile.

[wild mural]

im gonna get a 6

[heady sorrel]

i must ask about the opener, is it Reck->Odyns->Roar, wait for odyns to fall off, and then Avatar?

[unreal onyx]

with bb and ramp between, yes

[wild mural]

I was doing like 260k when I died

idk if that's good

[heady sorrel]

ok thanks

[unreal onyx]

I got a 59 with 243k

[wild mural]

hmm

I dont have wf

[unreal onyx]

kill was kinda scuffed on ours

but kill is kill

[wild mural]

this is only hc aswell so I think ened more dps

[velvet crypt]

Do u not want enrage up before odyns and roar?

[unreal onyx]

oh wait, hc

I thought myth

[wild mural]

reck/charge/ramp/of/etc

nooo we dont raid again till after xmas

[unreal onyx]

CEyi in march inc.

[wild mural]

one day

[unreal onyx]

the last 2 raids it didn't feel as if the first 6 bosses in raid weren't that easy to reclear as it is in amidrassil

[wild mural]

yeah I agree

first 6 kinda fall over

but first 6 on vault included dathea and kurog

[astral path]

dont you wait for dancing blades to fall off?

[clever belfry]

no

[wild mural]

and first 6 in aberruss was rashok and zskarn

[astral path]

i swear some guy was tweaking about the DR on dancing blades overlap

[unreal onyx]

rashok was free with enough gear too

[wild mural]

true

[astral path]

and i've been doing it ever since

[unreal onyx]

but zskarn was always

[clever path]

lmao

dont pay attention to db

[astral path]

damn

[clever path]

you press second ava when the first one falls off

[astral path]

oof

i made a WA for it and everything

[unreal onyx]

first 6 in vault of the incarnates had dathea and kurog

[clever path]

thats when odyns dot expires as well

[astral path]

;-;

[sudden tusk]

weirdly enough spiteful actually owns

[clever path]

imagine playing assa

[sudden tusk]

for keeping signit up

[clever path]

this week

zerocool in shambles

[sudden tusk]

it did almost 10% of my dam on 2nd boss wcm becuase it just never fell

[wild mural]

i did say that

[wild mural]

^

[unreal onyx]

oh

lol didn't see

we had a harder time rekilling kurog than dathea

[wild mural]

ye same

[unreal onyx]

dathea was fun as fury

boon with RA on platforms

[wild mural]

boon

[unreal onyx]

boon fuck good on dathea

[wild mural]

I forgor to press twice

4:46 fight

Im bad

[misty parcel]

Hey there, quick question. Here are my stats. Some people are using much more versatility like.. 20%. Since I've a lot of mastery and I'm 95% of the time buffed by enraged, is it rly worth it to trade some mastery for versatility ? Thanks !

[wild mural]

need more keys

[unreal onyx]

17

[wild mural]

Only high keys

[misty parcel]

Anyone ?

[covert blaze]

yeah your vers looks low

you should sim vers gear/gems/enchants

[harsh gulch]

This is probably an absurd question, but does anyone have a build for smf cleave fights?

[fluid cedar]

yall been running bloodcraze or massacre for keys?

[modest condor]

bc

[fluid cedar]

word ty silm

[modest condor]

prio damage just feels more valuable in high keys

[gilded pawn]

Is massacre not also prio dam

[fluid cedar]

ye tbh ive been running bc but wasnt sure how to sim and its more of a feelscraft question imo

[modest condor]

massacre is pretty weak for prio damage

remember season 1 tierset

there's a reason why it was so weak

execute just isnt a big dps increase for us

(the ability)

[junior gale]

Fury execute weak

[wraith wharf]

massacre i think is mostly to help make the rotation smoother but not a prio over BB - rampage spam i think?

[junior gale]

the abillity

[young swan]

yeah execute (ability) is stinky poopy

poopoo mountain ability

[modest condor]

(not the phase)

[still swift]

i sold the heroic larry ring for 200k

cash money

[edgy widget]

Execute is an enabler for Fury, not the main damage focus

which is honestly better than both specs doing the same thing (again)

[junior gale]

Agreed

[wild mural]

giga

[vagrant warren]

I think I've always liked the flow of fury more than arms. With fury it's easy to come back from a fuck up.

[arctic tinsel]

Arms biggest fuck up = Cs parried 😂

After that you just sit there like a wet noodle

[granite tiger]

if i have like 80 rage and execute is ready i should do execute to keep it in cd then rampage and BB or doing rampage and bb then if need just doing execute ?! (its about m+ mean without ashen jug talent)

[modest condor]

honestly? it doesnt really matter

i think i would just rampage > bb > exe > bt

[fair oasis]

uhh im suddenly not getting enough rage to Rampage right away on pull?

[still swift]

if i have like 80 rage and im in recklessness and in bl and i press rampage and im overcapping on rage after it again should i press rampage again to not overcap or dont care about overcap and bloodthirst anyway

[modest condor]

maybe you reck too early, rage resets on combat start

bb has higher prio than ramp

[granite tiger]

mean execute have higher prio than BT ?!

[modest condor]

?

bt is on cooldown where you press exe

[granite tiger]

fair enough ty

[granite tiger]

for ST when i have ashen jugg talent its look like BB>execute>rampage right ?!

[modest condor]

yes

[fluid cedar]

juiced?

478ilvl

the woyer yearns for haste its my lowest allocated stat sadge

[wicked flicker]

anyone doing lots of burst at the start of a big pull but always fall below the other dps as the pull goes on in keys?

cant seem to keep up

good boss dmg tho

[calm mantle]

Yo guys

do hunter pets drop the goo on 2nd boss in everbloom?

[narrow narwhal]

Hey Psyduck

[marble swift]

why does my aoe suck, whats the typical issues with the rotation

[cosmic adder]

warlock pets dont so I dont know why hunter pets would

[calm mantle]

I got like 0 room to stand and melee and wasn't sure if someone was dropping shit or the pets.

[young swan]

either someone dropped in melee or thats where the boss charged

[clever path]

if exe was strong sure

[calm mantle]

Some clown was dropping it on the boss.

[cosmic adder]

classic

[young swan]

are u pressing ur cd's?

cause thats pretty much all we got for aoe

[calm mantle]

After initial burst your aoe will fall off but our initial burst is pretty solid. Cleave is 5 target capped so big packs other classes will just pull ahead in my opinion.

Or I also just suck and am making excuses

[wicked flicker]

so this is why i start strong and fall behing in big pulls

[sullen dove]

:3

[calm mantle]

This is what I have concluded yes. Once again I could be wrong since I suck but I think this is the reason.

[autumn mica]

@restive peak no lust , no evoker, it works man

rogue warlock warrior monk dh

[calm mantle]

YAY make warriors proud

Now come brick a 21 everbloom with me. I t was 23 an hour ago

[sudden tusk]

evoker is just to live

if you can live without it you do way more dam as a group

[dense elbow]

Skip squish classes, bring tonkybois, win keys.

[autumn mica]

Yeah

just bring 3 tanky dps classes

and u dont need evoker

it works really great for us

[left perch]

yea of course it would

[dire mortar]

3 demo locks

[clever path]

4 ret paladins and 1 prot paladin

[modest condor]

3 fury warriors

[dire mortar]

5 blood dks

[clever path]

4 fury warriors and prot pala

[dense elbow]

4 Fury Warriors, 1 sword and board Arms warrior.

[clever path]

5 glad warriors

7 arms warriors

[dense elbow]

You would need like 14

[dire mortar]

Double it

[clever path]

6 should be enough

[frail trout]

I just wish our dragon roar was as strong as the arms dragon roar

Would make those huge packs feel a little better

[clever path]

nah

they should just cap us to 8 targets

instead of 5

or make us do more to 5

[slim coral]

No one wants to play with a warrior

[clever path]

[compact knot]

person named no one

[slim coral]

Sat in m+ queue for 3 hours nothing

[clever path]

queuing for what

30s?

[tight igloo]

nah a lot of people dont invite warriors

its cringe

[compact knot]

been like that this whole pansion

[sullen tendon]

been queing for 23-24s for the past hour and nothin

[clever path]

idk im 2.8k cba playing keys this season i just pug my weekly 20s or i guide people through +20 dungeons for in game currency

[compact knot]

if you arent fotm you are NOT getting invited to that +10

[sullen tendon]

just give warriors lust

[compact knot]

give us some fucking util

[sullen tendon]

bshout is not enough to get invited

[clever path]

idk it was turbo cringe last season when aug happened

[sullen tendon]

its not even about utility

[clever path]

26 timed?

[tight igloo]

need a lot more than just shockwave and sbolt

[sullen tendon]

its about bringing some buff

[clever path]

not getting into 23s

lmao

[compact knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1187903504635920485/image.png?ex=65989459&is=65861f59&hm=596d45f105be7c7e6f7ef68ac8a516a62afc5669c86f904cd3fa222855ac0484&

[sullen tendon]

if you have lust or a bres you get auto invted to keys

if you are fotm you get auto invted

[clever path]

i mean

its because

[sullen tendon]

any other specs get fucked

[clever path]

they nerfed rally

and darkness is busted

rally is useless

compared to darkness

i mean its not useless

just nowhere near as good

[compact knot]

its good in like DHT tbh

[calm mantle]

Apparently everbloom is an exceptionally hard key to do.

[compact knot]

on tyr

[clever path]

ye bosses fuck

[tight igloo]

rally is okay

[sullen tendon]

its hard because ranged are tarded

[calm mantle]

I made it to 3rd boss this time before bricking.

[tight igloo]

just not as good as dark

[sullen tendon]

healers die constantly in everblooms i do

dont move out of arcane orb

[tight igloo]

well they stand right next to the boss

so they have no time to dodge

well, trash

but boss too

[sullen tendon]

everything in that dungeon is anti ranged

berserkers

aoe shit

[tight igloo]

idk i feel like EB is easy af but it is a lot of healing

[sullen tendon]

2nd boss

[clever path]

i mean

it doesnt matter

if its not bad

its significantly worse than darkness

[sullen tendon]

you can survive any fight if you arent stupid with your defenives

[tight igloo]

yes thats what i said

darkness is broken, rally is just ok

dh does more damage, has better utility, buffs mages/warlocks, and also has darkness

[calm mantle]

my healer died twice on hte 3rd boss n one pull then died again next pull.

[sullen tendon]

yea

no one knows how to press defensives during flame volley

[slim coral]

26+

[sullen tendon]

and ranged dont know how to do arcane orb

they either stand in it

[clever path]

unless you have 27s timed you arent getting in

[sullen tendon]

or bait it dumb and kill dps

[clever path]

even then they might not tkae you

[calm mantle]

Is that the one that pulls or the like 6 white balls ?

[clever path]

pull

[calm mantle]

I always get pulled by that thing and it hurts

[sullen tendon]

fire = aoe damage and fire swirls
frost = balls that surround you and freeze you if touched
arcane = orb that targets ranged and pulls eveyrone towards it.

[clever path]

fire is the worst one

[sullen tendon]

yea

[clever path]

cause its random

it can straight up oneshot you

its like pistol shot first boss freehold

[sullen tendon]

i dont think its random

its got cast order

[clever path]

im pretty sure its random sometimes you only get hit once sometimes 3 times

[sullen tendon]

i think tis more that the healer has to move around during it to dodge swirlies and cant heal

[clever path]

i always pop something

[sullen tendon]

it really just depends if your group has enough braincells to use personal defensives smart

[clever path]

if u are a squishier class on higherk eys you need extenrals

or aug

which is why u play aug

[sullen tendon]

my favorite thing is when half of the key listings above 22 have "need aug" in them

[clever path]

ye cause they are

those keys are prob easier without one lmao

prob not easier but faster for sure

a lot faster

its not like mechanics oneshot people through several defensives

its like people dying to shadowbolt volley in a 23

on last boss brh

you dont need aug you need eyes

and hands to press defensives

[sullen tendon]

aug is for world first 30 groups and baddies

[modest condor]

it's definitely random, unless they changed it in the past 2 days or so

[clever path]

im 99% sure its random as well

[molten relic]

No leggo again smh

[clever path]

next week

[molten relic]

Maybe next week

[clever path]

[sullen tendon]

are you guys talking about during the ability?

[molten relic]

For sure

[clever path]

yes

[molten relic]

Has to be next week

Otherwise the week after

[modest condor]

yes

[sullen tendon]

oh yea i could see that

but really

just pop a defensive

youll live

ive never died to firestorm unless healer gets instagibbed

[clever path]

ye until you get hit 3 times cause random

on a 27

[modest condor]

look at this for example, the dh gets hit twice in a row http://puu.sh/JXine/d14864b632.png

[sullen tendon]

spellreflect

[empty grove]

honestly as a warrior unless you have like 3.4k rating - you need a team to do the keys

[clever path]

i always pop dstance + sr

or er if in cds

[sullen tendon]

maybe its timers are bugged

[modest condor]

no it just fires bolts randomly

[clever path]

pistol shot was the same on first boss freehold

it just hits you twice

for fun

[sullen tendon]

i mean it looks like its got a bit of apattern to it

[sullen tendon]

looks like what its supposed to do is just ping everyone once then start at the first person again until the cast ends

thats probably why he got hit twice

he was hit last and first in the ping order

[modest condor]

no

[clever path]

you are overthinking it

[modest condor]

it's the 8th and the 9th hit

it's just random

[clever path]

there are 5 players

it generates a rnadom number between 1 and 5

number 3

number 3

number 3

youre dead

unfort buddy

but that would be very rare

at least it should be

[sullen tendon]

idk i still dont believe its compeltely random

[clever path]

unless the system is biased in a way

[sullen tendon]

it has some order to it

[modest condor]

here http://puu.sh/JXiof/2590a4e335.png

[clever path]

i mean

[modest condor]

aug doesnt get hit for the first 3 seconds and then gets 3 hits close to eachother

[sullen tendon]

if its completely random why doesnt it ever hit the tank 6 times in a row

[clever path]

cause the chances are insanely low

[sullen tendon]

i feel like in a million logs it would happen atleast once

[snow edge]

Because the odds of that are extremely unlikely?

Like.. extremely

[meager void]

i feel you dont get this whole randomness concept

it does not mean uniformity

[sullen tendon]

its not complete randomness

[clever path]

there is like a

0.000064% chance

of that happening

[snow edge]

I mean you're welcome to believe there's an order to it

No one can tell you what to think

[sullen tendon]

its not an order but its not complete random

[clever path]

like you need to take a number from 1-5 and roll the same number 6 times in a row

[modest condor]

evoker only got hit once during a whole cast http://puu.sh/JXioC/b2db147947.png

[meager void]

I meawn, if you gonna go the way of "a computer cant generate a random number", you are right

[clever path]

pala moment

bubble

[sullen tendon]

the cast is 5 seconds. every 1 second the game chooses an order of players to get hit. if the last person in that order is the first person in the next order they will get two shot by it

[modest condor]

that's not how it works

my screenshots prove that

[clever path]

yea theyre biased in some way or another

however for these use cases they are perfectly good

[meager void]

exactly

[clever path]

and the fact that stuff like getting hit 3 times in a row happens

just proves that its actually random

its not pseudo random

[sullen tendon]

so is it a bug or inteded

[clever path]

like spotify shuffle etc

[sullen tendon]

intended

[clever path]

intended

they say its random and it seems like it is

[sullen tendon]

that doesnt sound like it would stick around for so long

a random chance to just fail the boss becuase of rng?

[clever path]

its impossible to tell if something is random or not but its way easier to just call it random and move on

[clever path]

pistol shot freehold first boss

last season

would randomly pistolshot someone twice and oneshot him

on high tyra

[sullen tendon]

you can live that though

[clever path]

thats the thing with high keys

[meager void]

um, the whole concept of how wow works raids means this is always possible

[clever path]

you can live this as well

unless yo uget hit 6 times

[meager void]

if not, you get the dance coordinations of ff

[clever path]

which again

[molten relic]

Ur more likely to get leggo

Than get hit 6 times

[sullen tendon]

not if it casts 3 firebolts at you in .2 seconds on tyran

[clever path]

like 10000 times more likely

[modest condor]

it seems to be hard capped at hitting the same person 2 times in a row, but it's possible to then get another hit within a second

[clever path]

prob

so you dont get hit 4 times in a single second

i mean he is right

if you took the boss and wrote down the order

[meager void]

I would get that there's some sort of "always use this hit caps for these type of spells" code snippet at wow hq

[clever path]

you will find a pattern

but it might take the boss years of sitting in that ability before exibiting a pattern

just not worth thinking about

[meager void]

theres a recent story on someone finding a crazy pattern for punch out in nes

[coarse nest]

How would you guys squeez in fresh meet for M+ ?

drop blood craze?

[clever path]

drop bc

ye

[meager void]

depending on number of inputs since game start and crazy counts like that

[clever path]

nothing else seems droppable

[coarse nest]

kk ty

[clever path]

prob generates a seed based on that info or something

[meager void]

yeah some speed runner found this and "changed the game" in the punch-out speed runner scene

which is kind wild that its a real thing and kinda big as I understand it

[clever path]

blizzard should refer to quantum mechanics for true randomness

[sinful spoke]

timed a 23 rise today

with 6 mins left

:3

[dense elbow]

Good job! You did it! Keep at it!

[modest condor]

grats

[sinful spoke]

my goal this season was 3k but i think i can go higher with how close i am right now

[clever path]

if u can time a 23 rise you can time a 25 brh

factual information

[dense elbow]

If you can time BRH 25, you can time 27 AD

[clever path]

ad is definitely harder

[meager void]

i just did that brh25 fun place, shadowbolts sting a little.

[sullen tendon]

AWESOME

[clever path]

its not even shadowbolts that hurt imo

first phase and that add

[sullen tendon]

my favorite part about being a warrior is getting invited to a 24 and then removed becuase a dh and his healer friend were in que lmao

[clever path]

is just so annoying

[meager void]

tbf, i would also pick a dh+healer over a warrior

[clever path]

i wouldnt

[sullen tendon]

i actively try to get a full warrior group

[clever path]

they are dogshit 74% of the time

[sullen tendon]

i need 2 prot warriors 2 fury warriors and an arms

time some 24s

[clever path]

just go 5 fury warriors tbh

[sullen tendon]

prot holy fury fury arms

perfect group

[clever path]

prot war and 4 fury warrs

[sullen tendon]

let us apply healing wounds to our friendfs with whirlwind

invirgorate our buddies with some cuts

[dire mortar]

For AD last boss ez clap

[sullen tendon]

yazma is fucking donezo if she runs into 4 warriors

[subtle lagoon]

Do it during incorporeal/afflicted week

[sullen tendon]

shattering throw rotation ez

[compact knot]

5 prot wars is meta

[wanton mirage]

Crafted this. will I regret later?

I can headbump dead people to res now

[dense elbow]

Don't worry about it, you can craft a new item later

[subtle lagoon]

I'm probably going to also craft bres just to get invited

[compact knot]

i dont think its that bad tbh

its still the same secondarys as you would a normal 486 helm with 2 secondarys right

like total gained

[wanton mirage]

yeah total is same

[clever path]

holy that vers is massive

[compact knot]

and it came with the socket?

[wanton mirage]

no. sockect is from vault

my last socket anyway

[clever path]

[compact knot]

thats kinda massive imo, too bad the enchant scales with ilvl

[wanton mirage]

I compared other three 489 Helmets to Engi one in ST

I guess it's negligible? idk

[clever path]

more or less i guess

its more the fact you are losing an embellishment

or are u

[compact knot]

i dontt think it does

[clever path]

ye now that i think about it

i dont remember seeing it

as an embellishment

if so then its prob worth it

[wanton mirage]

i dont lose embellish

[compact knot]

its not a bad item to be crafting honestly

im not sure about using a socket on it though

[wanton mirage]

its trading 789 dps with a brez

[compact knot]

m+ util gigachad

is that what it looks like in st talents??

[wanton mirage]

no i swaped to MT talents

[compact knot]

oh

[wanton mirage]

wait its not lol let me go again

[compact knot]

i was like that doesnt make any sense

loool

[wanton mirage]

5T 5min with MT talent, (only Battle shout and Lust)

[covert blaze]

I wouldn't say negligible, but it's not a bad craft short term

[compact knot]

crafting is kinda bad this tier anyways

you pretty much only want emb*llishments and a ring

keeping it family friendly

[snow edge]

Basically; but a free ring socket is pretty huge

Well it's decent, not huge

[covert blaze]

Double crafted ring gang

[wanton mirage]

when I make a clutch brez and time a push key in future, i will say that head is fiinally worth. lol

[compact knot]

im just so fucked on aspect crests

i want to make a double crafted ring but cant cause its not a dps increase until 486

and i still have a ring to upgrade and 486 wep to 489 (and belt)

so 2 weeks minimum i need to wait pmuch

[snow edge]

If you burnt Aspect Crests on Heroic gear early then you'd probably be fked right now

[compact knot]

yeah i sent that s**t ong

[snow edge]

I didn't bump any heroic gear past 476, so am pretty good on crests; basically everything will be maxed next week, give or take

[compact knot]

my luck on trinkets is kinda fucking crazy though

489 might, 489 rezan, 483 siggy B from vault all 3 in a row

[covert blaze]

Gimme that might

[compact knot]

just gotta get augury and im set with bis trinkys

[wanton mirage]

wish someone gave me that advise earlier though.

[compact knot]

i need blossom from fyrakk for my healing parses

then i run the double springs keepers

with full haste/vers gear

[wanton mirage]

today, i was traded Might by mercy of a holy pally. my run is over.

[compact knot]

i got a hero version in my first tot LMAO

then spent 30 on atal

only to get it in my vault zzzz

[spiral oasis]

66 on the fyrakk kill i fucked up my CD's like twice

[compact knot]

https://youtu.be/LYU-8IFcDPw?si=XliEmm2IY_YIza7y

holy moly youtube just cooked

forgot this was a song

good recommendation

[clever path]

Best song of all time imo

[compact knot]

linkin park only got banger songs

nu metal on top

[proud crown]

im an enjoyer

[summer quail]

Give signet

[compact knot]

that will be 100 million rupees

[clever path]

at least 14 bobux

[marble swift]

Why are BM hunters out dpsing me in keys by 3 standard devistions

[compact knot]

aka 1.2 million dollars

[compact knot]

they are good

warrior is kinda no utility no damage rn when compared to rogue dh and hunter

[marble swift]

Feels like shit

[compact knot]

although fury boss damage feels really fuckin good in keys

[marble swift]

Yeah but even then that's only on tyrannical

[summer quail]

I will trade a normal augury with avoidance for hc signet

[compact knot]

10lb of feathers vs 10lb of bricks

[marble swift]

Bricks

[summer quail]

Steel is heavier than feathers

[compact knot]

10 lb of feathers or 5 lbs of bricks and 5lbs of steel

thoughts?

[clever path]

depends on the weather

[desert field]

I'll take any signet or augury from any diff at this point

[slim coral]

https://clips.twitch.tv/TardyHeartlessArmadilloDendiFace-_t7QbJ63l6bEiGVS

Fury warrior pov

[clever path]

agreed

it feels shit

doing less than havoc

with all cds

next pack

havoc does the exact same dmg as last pull

you are competing with the tnak

[south kayak]

Make the BBs hit all the 4 targets for the bonus damage, not just the primary ones

And buff rampage and OF

No need to thank me

[clever path]

so you deal havoc damage in cds

[runic pine]

ain't no way

triple spindle on first kill

mythic

[clever path]

but then you do no dmg on next pack

got damn

[storm rune]

Time to blow all your DKP

Dual wield Nimue staffs and make the server weep

[runic pine]

it's the trink not the weppy

[storm rune]

oh, well now I'm sad

anarchy another day I suppose

[clever path]

i wiped

in time walking

manatombs

[south kayak]

I just got ptsd

3 of these dropped in a hc pug on my lock and I didn’t get any

With 5 rollers

[flat sapphire]

At least it's better to get those 3 trinkets than 3/4 capes from smolderon

[south kayak]

True and real

[clever path]

augury?

[south kayak]

Imagine getting 3 signets

[south kayak]

Yesn’t

[clever path]

i love wow

[flat sapphire]

We haven't gotten a single signet since we were in normal and then our tank that quit tanking 2 weeks later took it

[subtle lagoon]

I always get gloves or boots from timewalking caches

[south kayak]

Not even gonna try that

Fuck Tw

[subtle lagoon]

It's pretty ez tho

[clever path]

until you wipe

[subtle lagoon]

With a twink set

[clever path]

in manatombs

idk the bdk just couldnt live

[subtle lagoon]

You can pretty much tank as fury

[clever path]

not true

2 nexuses

killed me through er and dstane

literally couldnt heal back

tbc design

99% healing reduction

or someshit

glad i wasted my time

for a champion cloak

!!

fuck fury

thought fury would be better for tw

cant stand the gameplay

[subtle lagoon]

You need specific items, but fury is pretty much S tier for timewalking

tbc can slap, but in general you can do busted damage especially with cooldowns

[clever path]

the gameplay is awful

ra is a dogshit talent

make am baseline

[subtle lagoon]

you run am in timewalking

[clever path]

cba

changing talents for tw

fury gameplay is awful in all content

[sinful spoke]

Is bro complaining about timewalking dungeons rn

[subtle lagoon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQOVnQcmWH4zlESlxKNKkW5oWF10nmcFEai4HGufG1GswGVVXmzOBulJKs0KMQQrsIX_oLp8ppYY34i/pubhtml#

[clever path]

no i want blizz to buff arms so i dont have to touch this spec until rework

[subtle lagoon]

If you want to optimize tw

[clever path]

or until it goes back to am

[sinful spoke]

You dont have to touch fury

Just go arms

Lol

[clever path]

yeah and do less dmg with way less survivability

[sinful spoke]

If ur good enough u can play whatever u want and perform well

[sinful spoke]

And

[clever path]

thats like saying assa rogue is still meta cause zerocool is timing 30s

[sinful spoke]

Dont u wanna play arms

Nust play it

Lol

[sinful spoke]

This is the exact opposite

Just play what u wanna play in the end it dorsnt fkin matter

🤷

Its a game

[clever path]

cba arguing

[gilded pawn]

you can play whatever you want and play well

until critcake rolls off of warrior

thats how you know its doomed

[sinful spoke]

^

[sinful spoke]

Cba this cba that. Thats how i know ur just complaining to complain

Just play the game lol

Do u know how insane arms is on smoldy?

U will see the biggest number youve ever seen if you pop your fatal mark or we its called during the dmg phase

[subtle lagoon]

I will say that it is kind of shit when a spec is only good at one specific niche encounter in a game that is more than just one boss and one raid when there are classes that stomp in majority or all content, if that's your argument

[sinful spoke]

Its also good for council

[subtle lagoon]

I don't think fury is terrible, but certainly could be better. Always felt that way for as long as I've played this spec.

[sinful spoke]

My point is just enjoy the game

Play what u wanna play

Ignore tierlists and shit

Instead of throwing a tantrum on a class discord

[gilded pawn]

or play leauge of legends

great game

[sinful spoke]

True

Play garen or darius if u wanna play arms that bad

💀💀

[flat sapphire]

Who do I play for fury then

[clever path]

olaf

its annihilator as well

built in windfury

with titanic thorw

throw

[sinful spoke]

Yone for titans grip

Olaf for smf

[flat sapphire]

True true

Prot then

[clever path]

malphite has thunder clap

e is called thunderclap

literally

[slim coral]

I’m not sure what they can do to help fury in keys

To make it more pug friendly

But it’s been an issue for a few years now

[summer quail]

they can make it do a billion damage

[slim coral]

We need lust and brez tbh

[clever path]

havoc dmg

[wanton mirage]

More dmg is the easiest way

[clever path]

i mean its obvious that we lack damage compared to havoc/bm etc

[urban tapir]

It’s annoying seeing secret tech cleave on my rogue with clones but bloodbath can’t do shit 😂

[mental ivy]

I am of the belief that warriors are slated for a buff soon

[clever path]

why would they buff fury

fury is doing good

in raid

[subtle lagoon]

Giga

[mental ivy]

I just feel it. Could be copium, but i #believe

[subtle lagoon]

We didn't even get an official feedback thread for warriors in the forums

Nothing in patch notes either, it's an afterthought class

I assume changes in the next season

[clever path]

arms might be getting changes soon

its hard to believe they just skipped arms

tbf id rather get skipped than buffed by 3%

[oblique trail]

I think it's pretty hopeful to think anything meaningful will happen

[summer quail]

fatal mark buff only

[grand estuary]

If I kill fyrakk on heroic then go back and kill him on normal/lfr will they still drop blp

[young swan]

dont think so

[hallow sphinx]

going to bed btw

not spawning into the nexus

FAKE

[young swan]

im in bed coward

[red yew]

Holy moly can't wait for 15% buff to fatal mark damage

[summer quail]

ye that's all arms needs, insane buff

[red yew]

Never before seen

[calm mantle]

I just can't compete with these pumpers

[plucky ice]

[subtle lagoon]

Mage really needed those buffs you guys

[elder vessel]

Brh or ever bloom?

[subtle lagoon]

They were not doing optimal in a raid no one gives a shit about 😭

[fading sky]

i mean i dno, have u played with good mages in raid ?

[edgy widget]

I'm sorry what

[fading sky]

our frost mage isnt top, but he aint bottom either

[edgy widget]

getting in the worst opinions of 2023 while you still can I see

[fading sky]

also Fury plays RLY well atm

it fuckin slaps in raid, and being more Bursty than sustained is always fav

loss of ST aoe spec is tiny

at max fury could use an aura buff if its for raid.

[edgy widget]

Annihilator's rotation could be a little tighter - frankly I don't really think we need to filter in Slam and Whirlwind together when it could just be one for ST one for AoE, but that's such a low level concern

[fading sky]

yeah, chosen to forget that ww is aoe

😄

as in arms its also st

macroed it to bad slam

[edgy widget]

well more to the point that without juggling both, Annihilator would have very little rotational complexity

[fading sky]

true, it is not complex, but i feel it flows decently

esp if u have wft

[edgy widget]

although it's such an insignificant portion of the build's damage, it literally could not matter less how well you do it

[edgy widget]

its more complex than it would be if you only ever and reliably used one, is the point

[fading sky]

true only bt- slam - rampage would prob be to little

[edgy widget]

that's what I'm saying

well it'd be BT/BB, Rampage, Slam, Execute, plus cooldowns

but just having BT - Slam - BT loops infinitely reliable would be a little too simple