fury

[clever belfry]

Everytime someone crafts it I should receive 1€

[oblique trail]

[wild mural]

[unreal onyx]

[fading sky]

i deffo wanted a rallying cry everytime leggo was formed

[clever belfry]

low pickrate

[strong oar]

Is the lego ability use on CD or filler?

[clever belfry]

removed

[clever belfry]

just press it outside cds

[covert blaze]

I missed the spam

[strong oar]

thx

[clever belfry]

L

[covert blaze]

[strong oar]

I shouldnt use it to charge in right? on pull

[gleaming crag]

so whos lazy and using the one button macro?

I find it helped me a bit

[wild mural]

one button macro for 1 button spec

[clever belfry]

absolutely not

[strong oar]

Are we talking last resort? Like if slam and whirlwind is on CD aswel

[warm crag]

outside of cds

[clever belfry]

when ava and reck are out

u press

👍

[narrow narwhal]

:woo:

[clever belfry]

[clever belfry]

[vale dove]

Is mirror sim bait?

[modest condor]

no

[oblique trail]

It's as good as it sims

[narrow narwhal]

I just like typing :woo:

[wild mural]

[vale dove]

489 sims 150~ dps more than my 489 rezans

[modest condor]

link the sim

[past pivot]

That 3-minute cd is rough tho

[vale dove]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5KnQH3exUmsX2D7LkHWKai

actually more than 150

but ye 3min cds are horrible

[modest condor]

i mean 4 minute sim, you just get a 2nd use off in execute phase

[vale dove]

oh fs forgot i was messing with sim duration

makes sense

[narrow narwhal]

It'll lose value in a 5 min sim and gain value in sim lengths just over 6 minutes for that 3rd use

[fossil hatch]

crafted weapon

[modest condor]

tbf on a 5minute sim you would want to get the 2nd use in execute phase too, but then you have more time for rezan to do damage too

[wild mural]

reminds me when I sent a 30s droptimisir sim by accident trying to get OCE

[vale dove]

indeed

[wild mural]

+16k I said

[vale dove]

ye 5min rezans above

[eternal sundial]

@wild muralhttps://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dXFoMAjFGhZqsdWSjUMvGg 1 more key im done

[wild mural]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tVLh2imwJ9ZUNPmAU9hFwf

barely higher than u w leggo

make it make sense

[eternal sundial]

Trinket

Mainstat gem + 7 others for me

[wild mural]

o

i have 3 gems

[eternal sundial]

Xam

[wild mural]

Xam

[eternal sundial]

Gems arent insane but like say 500 per

So that alone is 2k + mainstat for u

[oblique trail]

You have a lot of crit and haste compared to fairly low vers/mast by comparison

Like that neck of yours

[eternal sundial]

Stat doctor bongzi

[oblique trail]

If you were to compare it to the DHT neck, or Tindral neck

They should sim as a fairly big increase

[wild mural]

I need the BRH neck

but farming

[eternal sundial]

I did 43 brh

For chest

[wild mural]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uB7YtVAamUmjnQ5F3CKYaP

[plucky ice]

wheres my leggo

[eternal sundial]

same

[hoary locust]

guys anyone can link lesser essence weakaura?

[eternal sundial]

dont have one wont help it drop so its kinda pointless

[clever belfry]

if it drops it drops

if it doesn't

ir doesn't

[eternal sundial]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qeqiEf2AcDsW8mH8NvknAY @wild mural

go key cage sir

[plucky ice]

sim like 237k with lego in gear compare

[oblique trail]

As expected

Your stats are fucky wucky disgusting

[past pivot]

How will a weakaura for the essences work if we don't how how the essences work?

[oblique trail]

Go fix it

[eternal sundial]

i sim 239.8 with it

[clever belfry]

my woyer had better sim with lariat than sf

cause i had so little haste

[eternal sundial]

mine didnt

[clever belfry]

and craft on cape couldn't fix

[plucky ice]

[clever belfry]

[hoary locust]

just to see how many dropped

[wild mural]

I will not be caged

[clever belfry]

King lariat craft was done

[eternal sundial]

i have to skidaddle sf belt and socketed random wrists but like

[clever belfry]

(fuck doing st)

[eternal sundial]

i would need 2 sockets for that cba

[oblique trail]

(I crafted my 486 SF cloak instead of 486 Lariat because I'm in Smolderon cage ama)

[wild mural]

that fk cloak is the one that my friend just deleted yesterday

unbelievable

[oblique trail]

I even have full Sockets

to make use of Lariat

[clever belfry]

King

i dont

im missing 1 ring and head sockie

[eternal sundial]

i have fully and it isnt simmin upgrade 🤷‍♂️

[eternal sundial]

tbf u should craft one

and then make idk neck or some shit

o u made boots

[wild mural]

I dont have the enchanted crests to craft that shit

yeah i just upgraded mine

dont have much gold so just used what I had rather than crating smt new and buying new sfp etc

[eternal sundial]

upgrading crafts this ssn feels VERY bad

like its 2/3rds of ur week just gone

Deadge

hooly

[chilly fractal]

Well it’s 60 crests for 10 ilvls

[eternal sundial]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5BbkMphj1TwAdwvD5kPwPL

LARGE gains

[wild mural]

yeah like i guess I could craft that

but then my bracers are still 486

476*

[chilly fractal]

It sims about 1000 DPS for me to upgrade my cloak 476 to 486 just hasn’t been worth it… next week though it gets upgraded

[unreal onyx]

your neck rn is kinda not that great anyway

also, does that factor in you replacing a embell you have?

[wild mural]

wym I have boots and bracers

[eternal sundial]

thats not my gear

[unreal onyx]

ahh

mb

[eternal sundial]

it cant fwiw

[ember apex]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/melee-dps-trinket-cataclysmic-signet-brand-explained-learn-how-it-works-and-when-336868

good write up on signet brand trinket

[mortal rock]

Finaly 2 set bonus t31

in 2 m+ duegeon

[coarse nest]

484 only simming 222k

[modest condor]

only

meanwhile im here simming 207k

[gentle terrace]

😦

[wild mural]

how

[warm crag]

noob

[wild mural]

are you like unequipping pieces when you sim or what

[coarse nest]

[clever path]

ass trinkets and ass weapons prob

[summer bobcat]

How good is black rook trinket for raiding

[modest condor]

i dont have windfury totem

[wild mural]

ass

[clever path]

same

[summer bobcat]

It surprisingly simmed higher than branch in st

[modest condor]

i should have one next week tho

[summer bobcat]

Around 10k higher

[modest condor]

10k higher on st?

are you comparing lfr with mythic or something

[summer bobcat]

Yea

[clever path]

10k higher? not even a 489 signet would siim that high

[wild mural]

branch is also ass

[summer bobcat]

Branch was from normal

[clever path]

which branch

[modest condor]

link the sim

[summer bobcat]

Like 3ilvl difference

[clever path]

oh fuck eb branch is agi nvm

[modest condor]

there's no way a normal branch can sim 10k higher than something else on st

[summer bobcat]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tZ92aHPwRGDBBELJeYc8TN

[summer bobcat]

I said the blackrook simmed higher

and its 16 not 10k

[wild mural]

this just dont compute for me

bro it sims 16k higher cauise you're using a differnt build entirely

[modest condor]

that's 600 dps lol

[wild mural]

it's like 3k dps

[modest condor]

3k same thing

[wild mural]

[shell jackal]

yo, what trinkets would you guys run to go for a rank 1 parse on gnarlroot HC? i understand most hc parses don't matter but i'm tryna aim as high as i can

[summer bobcat]

Thats why i hate simming

[shell jackal]

i've got augury (489), signet brand (483), rezans (483), might (483)

[summer bobcat]

Shits more complicated than getting a PHD

[clever path]

if your adds die too fast and the boss doesn't die in damage phase you wont get a good parse

well you will just not a rank one

avoid signet

augury might prob for the damage phase

[modest condor]

that on use trinket that lowers your haste afterwards

[summer bobcat]

My whole point is brh is better than branch i guess

[modest condor]

i think it drops from volcoross?

[clever path]

smolderon

[modest condor]

or wait no it's the other one that drops from smolderon yeah

[clever path]

embersoul

yep

volc drops that budget rezana

rezans

[modest condor]

yeah

[clever path]

coiled serpent

[modest condor]

neither trinket is good for us anyway so didnt bother learning their names

[shell jackal]

how tf is the top guy augury/branch

[clever path]

real

branch in damage phase

hit for like 19 billion

[shell jackal]

damn okay

idk if i have branch

[clever path]

as you can see r2 played signet which is bad on a 2 minute fight

he just held his branch the entire fight

[summer bobcat]

Lmfak

Budget Razan is hilarious

[clever path]

branch is 2:30 iirc

[past pivot]

Running Roar instead of Spear for ST. Kinkee

[shell jackal]

which ones

[ember apex]

whats that green pocket watch on the bottom right

[shell jackal]

oh ive got the bank open, its the 30% move speed stopwatch. use it for my speed set

[gentle terrace]

vedor those old dogshit trnkets

[ember apex]

🤔

[shell jackal]

bro no some of this is unobtainable bank shit

let me keep my old dogshit items

[ember apex]

dont listen to them mr sausage

[past pivot]

Hoarders-Stormwind

[unreal onyx]

only 100 this season locked in

[shell jackal]

i dont hoard that much

[past pivot]

That's why you keep then with the transmog people

[unreal onyx]

this season's hoard

[gentle terrace]

oh god please get an addon that merges all bags into a single hting

[ember apex]

40kDPS? am i missing something

[unreal onyx]

HPS

[hearty geyser]

Gusy, quick question. I'm not very good at builds and shit so I just copy form guide and go. I'm noticing that M+ build sometimes is other as in the guide (dancing blades+bloodcraze instead of slaughtering strikes and titanic rage). Can someone please advise me when dancing blades+bloodcrase is more profitable? I've read through the guides and didn't find a thing. Is it better for Tyrannic weeks? I'm currently pushing through 3100 RIO, so bosses are pretty tough.

[ember apex]

HPS like i said earlier

[wild mural]

nice nelth trink and wtf is that green one? from mop? top row 2nd trink

[gentle terrace]

I love having epmty bags

[shell jackal]

@gentle terrace please GOD put those into neatly sorted lines at the top what the fuck are they all in the corners for

[hasty path]

You can take my 304 RDM and aegis from my cold dead hands

[shell jackal]

thank you gamer and i don't know which one you mean

[narrow narwhal]

I like the single bags

[unreal onyx]

don't bring back these bad boys

[wild mural]

theres only 1 thing you need in your bag

[shell jackal]

oh that's the timeless isle TP trinket

[shell jackal]

1min CD, instant TP to ti for farming the toys/pets/mounts

[wild mural]

i see

[ember apex]

the visual effect of the unholy shards was sick tho

[rustic surge]

does dungeon slice work for fury in raidbots?

[ember apex]

i wish we could transmog effects like that

[shell jackal]

i keep that on me at all times

as well as other teleports

[clever path]

i deleted them all in 9.2 and then realized i had to do sod again

[gentle terrace]

lol fixed

[hasty path]

I keep ten bands and a Glock in my bags. And you better believe they’re fucking gucci

[mortal rock]

what is best m+ talent for 2 pieces t31 ?

[past pivot]

Arms

[shell jackal]

sort them out like mine but, you know, cleaner

[mortal rock]

ok

[gentle terrace]

this is a shitbag alt anyway, I really idslike warrior this season

[ember apex]

wait ur saying he should go arms if he's 2p T31?

[gentle terrace]

I miss AM/Ravager

[covert blaze]

why would you post this

why are you reminding me of this

[ember apex]

whoa wtf is that item

[shell jackal]

are you actively trying to give everyone here PTSD

[unreal onyx]

I sorted my bags last week

[past pivot]

Yes. I'd stay t30 or go Arms if 2p+2p then swap back to Fury for T31

[wild mural]

it's an essence from bfa

want a proper throwback

[ember apex]

oh i started in shadowlands

[unreal onyx]

same

started right with the best xpac

[past pivot]

lol

[wild mural]

Wrong, ignorant and wrong

[rustic surge]

does dungeon slice work for fury for accurately simming gear for mythic plus?

[ember apex]

the only thing that counts as 'throwback' for me is shadowlands lol

[shell jackal]

bro they aren't clean they're scattered

wdym

[ember apex]

if u want to 'throwback' for me u have to link some old unobtainable path of exile item

[shell jackal]

there's pockets of shit lying all over the place

[unreal onyx]

SL S1 was kinda fun imo

S2 too

but S3 was mid

[unreal onyx]

m+ was ok, but raid was boring and overtuned

[ember apex]

wasnt mop crazy stats though?

that seems kind of low

[mortal rock]

what raid build do i want to use for 2 pieces t31 ?

[shell jackal]

tell me u have those in the bank still, and keep them forever

[ember apex]

like didnt they stat squish after MoP i heard?

[wild mural]

yep

on my roguew

[shell jackal]

this is what i'm workin with

[ember apex]

i need that item

[narrow narwhal]

I never got all the garrosh weapons 😦

[frail trout]

I found that out last night, was our first night of smolderon prog

[cunning moth]

if i killed fyrakk on HC can i still get greater ember from normal and lfr fyrak ?

[narrow narwhal]

No

[wild mural]

I only got 1h sword, 2h axe, shield and dagger

Im sad I never got the polearm

[frail trout]

I realized I could live the next to last ring and gain huge DPS by doing it

[ember apex]

you should deposit your gold in orgrimmar bank and trust so it can accrue interest and u dont get ganked for a few 100k gold

[shell jackal]

they can try ganking me

[ember apex]

especially if ur hearthstone is set to a pvp area

[narrow narwhal]

Where's janezi when you need them

[frail trout]

Probably unsafe to do that for future intermissions but doing it once should help everything line up better I think

[hasty path]

Moving like Sylvanas turn their village into ash

[oblique trail]

The only intermission you'd really want to do it in is the 1st one

The rest you either have room already, or you gateway out and can instantly leap back in

[frail trout]

Ye

[oblique trail]

Although

You could probably do it for gateway intermission as well

[shell jackal]

my god man

[narrow narwhal]

The panda cloak is very strong in timewalking

[unreal onyx]

I only keep one max ilvl weap from every season in my bank

myth gavel/jaithys/ashkandur etc

[wild mural]

from the very first quest

[ember apex]

i never got mythic jaithys ):

KT was my favorite SL boss too prob

anduin intermission was also goated tho

[wild mural]

Only char I got ring and cloak on

[unreal onyx]

I only got myth jaithys from dinar

[plucky ice]

lolret

[unreal onyx]

I also never got jaithys in s2

[ember apex]

my guild didnt do mythic fated

[plucky ice]

[unreal onyx]

I killed KT + sylv on HC for 23 weeks straight and always had a vault

[shell jackal]

p sure my ring is in void storage or i got rid of it somehow

[unreal onyx]

never got ows or jaithys

[ember apex]

this would have been a global tragedy

[shell jackal]

wish i had all my old shit. got to a point where i thought ''ye lemme clear my bags/bank'' and sold everything. haunted mementos, undead slaying gear

[ember apex]

if this happened to me in SL s2 i would have found out how to get the news to report on it or something

[unreal onyx]

I have a SL prepatch haunted memento

but those aren't rare

[shell jackal]

hahahah nice

[wild mural]

I only got ring on my druid and pal, and cloak on pal and war

[unreal onyx]

but the spook is kinda funny

[shell jackal]

my mum plays and her warrior still has the OG haunted memento

[gentle terrace]

god damn

[wild mural]

got OWS HC on my Ret, and lost the roll by 1 on Jaithys

[ember apex]

mom plays fury warrior - poggers

[unreal onyx]

at least I got a leech heroic gavel on our aotc kill

[wild mural]

fury warrior with sword and shield

thats just the sorta gamer I is

[shell jackal]

got most, if not all, of the garrosh heirlooms on my warr. used to boost it on flex hahaha

[ember apex]

oh dude mountain thane should have been 2H + shield for prot i forgot to mention that to everyone when we were talking about it

[wild mural]

[past pivot]

Unbalanced stats, blizz wouldn't do it

[ember apex]

look at DH rn

[shell jackal]

i lied

thought i had more

[wild mural]

I really want that polearm

[ember apex]

dude

the pigsticker

i bought it from vendor

and i cant transmog it

it's apperance is unlearnable

[wild mural]

yeah you have to get rbg rating

[wild mural]

and get the replica stuff from area 52

[shell jackal]

yeah i want the banana mog but fuck doing rbgs

[ember apex]

how much do i need?

[wild mural]

like 2100

[shell jackal]

isn't it 1800 - 2k?

oh 2100

jfc

[ember apex]

FMA

i can do arena at 2.1k

but not RBG

[shell jackal]

think its rbg-specific yea

kind of ass

[ember apex]

char specific or no?

[shell jackal]

wish they'd implement another way of getting it, i'd rock the banana mog

when do we get another catalyst charge, btw?

[frail trout]

Aug is kinda bumming me out in this tier a little, I'm slowly coping and adapting my brain to it but it's warping my perception on my live performance review of my damage

[oblique trail]

next week

[past pivot]

Tuesday

[wild mural]

next week

[shell jackal]

goddamnit

[sullen wagon]

Last tier was much worse

[still swift]

@oblique trail

[shell jackal]

i waited to open my vault for the raid, i got mythic gnarlroot weapon & i got legs i wanted to catalyst myth track tier, but ive got no charges. so i gotta wait til next week, which is a guaranteed tier piece

so

with that in mind, what would you pick, gamers

it's between weapon or boots for me.

[ember apex]

sim ur stuff first of all and do u have a myth track weapon?

[narrow narwhal]

Follow your heart

[past pivot]

Weapon duh

[shell jackal]

with the tier legs in my bags ready to be catalyzed next week and my gnarlroot weapon being 489 once i upgrade it

i have one 489 weapon, yeah, just gotta upgrade it. other one is 483

[oblique trail]

@still swift

owo

[clever path]

get the weapons those boots suck anyways

u want the fatty grooves of comfort from way rest

[wild mural]

what boots

[shell jackal]

@wild mural those boots

[wild mural]

i didnt say anytthing about no boots

[still swift]

they just wrong replied

[shell jackal]

look at the image

[wild mural]

o

[shell jackal]

[warm crag]

stop this silliness

[oblique trail]

I'm min/maxing APM mid dungeon

[still swift]

uwu

[warm crag]

2 attacks per minute

[shell jackal]

i can't reliably sim it until next week, i dont feel like waiting another week and potentially missing a vault so

[warm crag]

against your cranium

[shell jackal]

i have to ask the goon squad up in here

[clever path]

weapons are and always are what u want out of ur vault

[shell jackal]

[past pivot]

If it's not a clear upgrade for gear, I'd take the weapon as insurance

[clever path]

unless ur like.doule 489

[wild mural]

never tell me to stop m y sillincess

[past pivot]

Unless Augury is there

[warm crag]

damn!

[clever path]

idk mam

[ember apex]

not true. when first boss drops 2h myth track weapon u want trinkets

or well statted jewelry

or mythic tier

[wild mural]

should I take wep from vault?

[clever path]

hey carlo

[ember apex]

what up

[warm crag]

ye

[shell jackal]

i've got gnarl mythic legs ready to turn into tier next week, so i dont need the legs. i have one 489 weapon already, the other is 483, and apparently the boots suck according to here

[wild mural]

hell ye

[shell jackal]

ill give it a quick sim just in case but

its not fully reliable cause ill be catalysing legs next week so i gotta ignore one slot

[clever path]

the guy asking was referring to weapon vs boots

if there was a trinket sure

but u almost never get boots from vault

[past pivot]

With a leggo axe and easily obtainable weapons, Vault has choices, Trinkets or even a high ilvl helm since helm enchant scales with ilvl. Weapon is not always the choice

[ember apex]

yeah ok i assumed u were making a general statement

[clever path]

socket would be better

and 489weapoms

probaly still better then a trinket if ur lacking weapons

[past pivot]

Weapon is insurance in case you don't get the leggo anytime soon.

[clever path]

the Lego is not even part of my gearing plan

it's just a bonus

[past pivot]

Check Vault. Do raid. If no Augury or leggo, pick best item from Vault.

[shell jackal]

i have 4/4 but will prolly get catalysed legs next week for the vers on them, and i won the mythic gnarl weapon from raid so

prolly the other weapon? 2x 489s seem like the ideal play

[clever path]

u 483 gnarls ?

489

yeah obviously man take the weapons

everything else in there u can go into a heroic or mythic raid and

probaly just roll need on it

boots and pants

[shell jackal]

[wild mural]

[past pivot]

You do you boo but taking those boots or legs over that weapon when it's a clear upgrade on the OH seems like a no-brainer. That or don't don't take the Vault till next week. It'll stay put and won't expire

[shell jackal]

does it replace the next weekly vault?

[clever path]

u can always socket one of ur myth track armor peices

if nothing else

[shell jackal]

like if I keep it until next week, then open it, will I get a second vault from my keys this week or miss a weekly vault? not worth missing one, imo

yeah nah I think axe is the play fellas

simming it but yeah, appreciate the input

[summer quail]

2nd vault

[clever path]

yeah I just sim it tbh because nobody can look right at ur at the point where stats and I level matter

so you kinda gotta like shuffle around ur set peices and rings and stuff to get proper stat weighs

[shell jackal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bSS9iNSAc59kG2gZEV519C

told me the legs were the play so imma run a sim without picking them as an option

[clever path]

I'm using footman rooks legs

or something

[past pivot]

4 minutes? Interesting. Don't see the OH as an option in that sim

[shell jackal]

BRH legs, yeah. Me too i think

it should be? maybe i fucked up tho. i'm running one with it in both MH/OH and the sims 5 minutes this time

ill link it

[clever path]

my vault for next week I really hope I get signer or augry

I'm using 476 rezsns and 483 might of ocean

[shell jackal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kzoYFkHtevTNydj4nUVMhd

[past pivot]

I have a 476 Rezan so need an Augury

[shell jackal]

so what was it about those boots?

[oblique trail]

523848 micro attacks per nanosecond is unleashed upon your frail meat prison called a body

[cobalt mist]

hey friends can we macro reck and odyns together or am i stupid?

[shell jackal]

unless i've horrifically fucked up the sim, apparently the boots are the best upgrade

[warm crag]

you can but please don't do that

[cobalt mist]

crit said wwe should ve open with reck and odyns then press avatar 4-5 secs after

[shell jackal]

reck before/as you charge for the free rampage, then ramp into OF for the enrage proc. i'm p sure thats how we do it here

you wait 4-5 sec for the initial OF bleed to run out so you dont overlap them

[oblique trail]

You have to reck before the charge

[shell jackal]

^

that's the one

[past pivot]

I thought you had a chance at a 489 weapon in the OH Your sim shows 2 483s in both hands. What weapons do you have again?

[shell jackal]

ah

wait

i'm not upgrading the axe

that's why

actually as dumb as bricks lemme fix that

[clever path]

I was going to say

how fucked a re ur sta weihta

star weighs

boots should almost never be better then a weapon I level increase

[past pivot]

224 dps is like those with a legendary. I mean the ilvl is high and there's Augury and Signet so things could be funky.

[shell jackal]

can't upgrade any myth track gear this week to 489, either. because i need the crests for crafts. and i can only get 30 more this week hahaha

[past pivot]

So likely that stats could by funky as well. But the OH should still be the play

[shell jackal]

finally doing the sim properly will update u in a bit, @past pivot

cheers for the help too

[past pivot]

I say take the OH upgrade but it's your toon so have fun with it. G/l

[covert blaze]

They grow up so fast

@oblique trail is your pfp from moshimoshibe

[oblique trail]

yessir

[covert blaze]

Based

[shell jackal]

i had a good teacher

[covert blaze]

[past pivot]

If you had a good teacher, you would have grown up sooner. 😄

[still swift]

I need a good teacher to teach me how to know all the combos im trying to sim

:kekw

[shell jackal]

same @still swift

[oblique trail]

What kinda insane combos are you trying to do

[idle robin]

Hey guys, should bloodbath be priority even if we are at full rage? or should we cast rampage even if it means losing a bloodbath proc?

[shell jackal]

there's still a learning curve with ridiculous sims, like, i've got some whacky ones i wanna do and i have no clue how to accurately or precisely do them

[oblique trail]

Yes, you always prio BB as the highest

Unless you're not enraged

[shell jackal]

praying Critcake drops that sexy ''simming guide for warriors'' video

[still swift]

i have a curio and my mastery token
i also have heroic shoulders and a heroic head in my bags
im trying to find out what the best gain short and longterm would be based on these items with next week having 1 charge

[idle robin]

Thanks

[oblique trail]

is the curio hc

[still swift]

yes

[past pivot]

KISS method works. Of deconstruct someone else's. don't need to oversim it either. That helps a lot, I've found.

[wild mural]

tf is warlock

[oblique trail]

What are your other tier pieces like

@still swift

[past pivot]

locks want leggo axe so they can mog it for their wrathguards

[wild mural]

i love playing capped aoe smile

[still swift]

463 champ head
463 champ chest
470 heroic offpiece shoulders (crit-vers)
463 champ gloves
480 myth legs

[summer bobcat]

Real question is what the fuck was that mage doing

[oblique trail]

You can play the long game and just hold till next vault

[shell jackal]

rolling his head on his keyboard

[oblique trail]

Otherwise you can mastery token head, curio gloves, catalyse shoulders

[still swift]

but the thing is!!

[oblique trail]

yeah?

[still swift]

the head that i have in bags is this and it sims better than offpiece shoulders tier head

so i was thinking

what if i cata or token my shoulders and do that as my head atm

[covert blaze]

That helmet is very good

[oblique trail]

That also works

[still swift]

but then i need to give up 1 slot until next week regardless

so im trying to find balance and how do

[covert blaze]

You could get myth helm in vault tho

[oblique trail]

I'll give you a secret hack for Fury

[covert blaze]

And enchant scales with ilvl

[still swift]

yea

[oblique trail]

The difference between 5 tier pieces and 4 tier and 1 off piece

Is like 0.1%

[still swift]

if i sim this and u are lielieliing to me

i will cry

[covert blaze]

Yeah also I wouldn't worry about min maxing off piece having champ gear

[summer bobcat]

Im thinking about running a full HC without any melee dps so i can get the trinket from Smolderon

[oblique trail]

Use the AD helmet then use mastery token on shoulders/curio on gloves, then you ahve catalyst next reset in case you get a myth slot for any of them

And then regardless you'll have full hero track

[shell jackal]

seen it done, no shame in it. send it.

[atomic nymph]

make sure the tanks aren't going to yoink it

[summer bobcat]

The thing is nobody will sign on smolderob except melees

[still swift]

but with this i am missing heroic track chest which then means id have to either cata heroic track chest next week or skip on that again if i have mythic in other

[summer bobcat]

They cant tho they roll as off spec

[shell jackal]

actually he could get cucked, to be honest. my guildy queued into a HC run as MW (his MS) but was rolling OS for signet brand

[atomic nymph]

I mean they can set their loot spec to dps and roll as mains

[summer bobcat]

Damn can they

[hardy flint]

I roll on trinkets and say its for transmog

[oblique trail]

ok sorry in key

I will give you my full attention in

20

[still swift]

i will be sleeping in 20

hehe

[oblique trail]

AAAAAAAAA GRRR

[shell jackal]

@past pivot https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6Yh37ubqcatpP5tScYkoP7

reckon you were right, big man

[still swift]

it's 0.2%

so in a sim of full 483s head wins barely

[past pivot]

👍

[shell jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-welcome-pleasure-keanu-reeves-its-a-pleasure-thank-you-gif-18395277

[oblique trail]

I'm so sorry for lying to you

[wild mural]

spamming brh

just for u guys

[oblique trail]

Please don't yell at me

[warm crag]

Yelling

[still swift]

I couldn't

[shell jackal]

i saw that typo buddy

whoever said ''macro'' and deleted it i'm onto you

[still swift]

why is macro a typo

u think he was trying to Marco polo?

[shell jackal]

he might have been

but he messed it up so do we say polo now?

or do we miss-spell it

[still swift]

macro poro

[shell jackal]

hahahaha

marcoroni polironi

[rich jasper]

we did it friends

[low folio]

so

if i wanted to take fear

for incorp because peopel are dumb

what talent would i drop

[oblique trail]

You can drop 2x Crushing Force if you haven't

It genuinely doesn't do much in keys

[low folio]

ya thats what i was thinking

i looked at slams damage overall and its not even as much dps as sidearm

[oblique trail]

Is what I run this week

Literally every single util button

[low folio]

oh right shattering throw breaks them

[oblique trail]

Ofc this is assuming pugs

[junior gale]

Shattering throw cast time

[low folio]

i like how blizzard was like "dks and warriors cant deal with incorp?" "well dks can contro lundead it anytime but warriors can only deal with it every 3 minutes

as in that was their buffs for it

[oblique trail]

Yeah I mean

It's cringe

But at least it's something

[idle osprey]

Yeah.. Hunters and DHs just usualy insta-trap them.

[rotund steppe]

thats why im tanking this week

[wanton mirage]

am done with that dun

[low folio]

i just had to watch a dh, hunter and druid do nothing about an incorporeal on last boss and it almsot wiped us

i was screaming internally

[junior gale]

idk if anyone else feels this but its just noticabley worse to get into pugs on incorp week

[oblique trail]

I've had no trouble this reset

But I also only do my weekly 20's

[rotund steppe]

ive been tanking

[junior gale]

im out here just doing chill 20s for vault on a 486 character taking 20 min to find keys

[oblique trail]

I even got almost insta invited to a few 22s

Also at 486, 2860 score

[rotund steppe]

thats cuz u famous bonzai

[acoustic seal]

i havent had much trouble pugging. But getting mages etc to actually do something about incorp... That's a different story

[low folio]

this was supposed to be just a chill 20 lol. incorp actually gets so much easier if yo ugo past 20 because people start actually insta ccing them

[junior gale]

im on NA and NA pugs are dummys

[rotund steppe]

NA are dummies

source: im NA

[olive wraith]

Afflicted is worse for pugging imo

Incorp at least we can stormbolt and kick

Or fear

[low folio]

i feel like incorp is a stronger debuff though

[junior gale]

must be just an NA thing cuz any other week thats not incorp I usually get insta invites when im trying to fill vault

[rotund steppe]

i wish i could move my account to EU

[oblique trail]

Incorp I can't feel, Afflicted I feel every singular time it goes off

So Afflicted is infinitely worse

[hasty path]

Me on my hunter alt throwing frost trap, kicking, stunning, then watching the two Druids in the group just ignore it

[junior gale]

Haste debuff

[wild mural]

[low folio]

afflicted makes you feel it because it makes you thinjk your lagging but incorp can just make healing not work at all

[hasty path]

You can’t feel your abilities ceasing to do damage?

[oblique trail]

I can't feel my numbers becoming smaller no

But I can certainly feel my globals taking twice as long

[low folio]

i have groups die more often to incorp than afflicted

[rotund steppe]

legendary too op? nerf warrior by 40%

[hasty path]

As a tank I can feel my health bar going down and not coming back up

[oblique trail]

First issue: Playing tank

[cosmic lance]

spiteful & incorp is a painful combo in some dungeons ngl

[wild mural]

nerf warr

[rotund steppe]

same

[hasty path]

POV: you’re a tank and double incorp goes off

[ember apex]

I like ur name "Axeless"

[hasty path]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[oblique trail]

Where is my lego?

[wild mural]

idk

[oblique trail]

maybe next week?

[olive wraith]

Which key

[oblique trail]

chrimmas present?

[rotund steppe]

ill change it soon

[wild mural]

as we know the bad players get it sooner

[oblique trail]

Just an everbloom 20

[olive wraith]

That looks like Eb

Ya lol

Goated key

[ember apex]

i will become Carlo Reborn or Redeemed Carlo once I get it

[oblique trail]

I have yet to reach 400k

[ember apex]

im not sure which one yet

[rotund steppe]

i actually dont know how yall mfs can do taht dmg

[wild mural]

I only did 311k in EB 23

[oblique trail]

Can't do that until I get lego + augury

[olive wraith]

Eb and brh are the best

[ember apex]

and it's going to be a bear levetating with angel wings

[rotund steppe]

imma blame augury

[wild mural]

just did 304k in 17 brh

[ember apex]

why are u doin 17s

[wild mural]

farming neck

[hasty path]

My guild got our first leggo this week on a non-raider friends/family member

[wild mural]

[wild mural]

my point proven

[ember apex]

"congrats little evan ur in on tindral"

[wild mural]

Im my guilds one and only leggo

[oblique trail]

omg thank you

[rotund steppe]

my guild has 0 leggos

[oblique trail]

FUCK you FUCKK

[ember apex]

same 0 leggos and all plate dps are working for it incl some alts

[oblique trail]

I will mercilessly hit you 52934 times

[rotund steppe]

thats supiciously specific

[ember apex]

banezi's a little psycho

[gray parrot]

Is it a substantial dps loss to bloodthirst with tier set bonus active or not a huge deal

situation comes up sometimes not sure if Im meant to wait

till rampage

[oblique trail]

It's a loss, but less of a loss than holding until you can Rampage

If you can't get rage to Rampage, just send it on BT

[idle robin]

Hey, do you guys cast slam often?

[oblique trail]

Depends on your RNG

[ember apex]

yeah i agree. it's rare enough that its prob better to send ur empowered BT than hold and https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/933684566240149624.webp?size=48&name=Prayge&quality=lossless for BB

[oblique trail]

But it's used every pull yes

[vale dove]

overalls are pretty low this week just because you spend more time in combat with spitefuls

[ember apex]

idk why my stupid emotes dont link right

[cosmic lance]

But you also get to pad on spitefuls

[wild mural]

yeah Im trying to optimise signet in keys

[vale dove]

😄

[wild mural]

it's not padding they need to die

[hasty path]

Sending OF/Reck/Ava on 20 spitefuls

[idle robin]

Every time it seems i have everything down and cast slam, during the gcd something becomes available, not sure if its better to pop it or wait a fraction of a second to use something else lol

[ember apex]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/melee-dps-trinket-cataclysmic-signet-brand-explained-learn-how-it-works-and-when-336868

good luck

[cosmic lance]

I'm helping the ranged out getting rid of their spitefuls

[vale dove]

even with spiteful padding

[wild mural]

yeah thats what I was reading earlier

which inspired me

[ember apex]

insane reading content tbh

[vale dove]

i just did an everbloom and was out of combat 1min 20seconds in total

in a 22min key 😄

[restive peak]

EB is wild on tyrann man

[oblique trail]

That's fine

It's better than holding

[ember apex]

"just stay in combat by taunting critters and go farm this specific legion toy and smack it during ur timed pve content"

[restive peak]

We had 1 death in a 26 and beat it by like 2.5mins

[hasty path]

Can you hold my hand?

[restive peak]

Both me and DH did like 410k, mage did 386

Crazy fuckin tyrann key

[idle robin]

Alright, thanks!

[ember apex]

same in a pug 20 me and ret both doing 360k+ w/ an aug

[wild mural]

im doing it

[restive peak]

Place is so tight, mage boss is a fuckin nightmare man

[oblique trail]

If you pay me perhaps

[restive peak]

ABC brother> Always be casting

[ember apex]

mage boss everyone but me almost died like 3 times

[wild mural]

This feels like a mistake

[ember apex]

i only didnt b/c i somehow got lucky and dodged everything

that never happens

[oblique trail]

When you've made your 2-3 embellishments, just use your Spark on slots that are shit

[wild mural]

I feel like I should be doing the bracers to 486 and farming neck but

this is a bigger gain that doing that

[restive peak]

The mistake would be wasting 60 aspects on that

[rotund steppe]

i should make my bracers but im not lmao

[restive peak]

Not the neck itself

[ember apex]

luckily i made the bracers in s2 and just recrafted them this season

[rotund steppe]

i wish

we could trade crests for flightstones

[vale dove]

Just farm Raven neck

😄

[ember apex]

flightstones are easy to farm, i wish it was the opposite

[vale dove]

do 20+ keys no 17s more chance people dont need the neck

[ember apex]

cant u get FS from ranom heroics?

or at the very least u can spam carry rando alts in +2s and get bonus FS

[past pivot]

Plumber farming is best way to get flightstones.

[wild mural]

that's what I mean but this neck gains me more than brh neck+486 bracers

[ember apex]

plumber?

red pill me on this

[past pivot]

Addon for emerald dream

[rotund steppe]

true

[ember apex]

ah

[rotund steppe]

i should

[past pivot]

Just fly around plants

[ember apex]

but dont u hit a cap w/ seeds

[rotund steppe]

i dont wanna use aspects on hero gear :/

[vale dove]

how much more?

[ember apex]

what are the resources called from season 1 open world content

[vale dove]

cant be massive unless u dont have the 483 neck already?

[ember apex]

it allows u to buy mog from renown vendors

[plucky ice]

bros just get brh neck from vault

[hasty path]

Why

[rotund steppe]

cuz i dotn want to :/

[hasty path]

Didn’t ask

[young swan]

u actually did

[ember apex]

i had to look up 'inted' i cant tell if im being shit on or praised. my own guild btw

[oblique trail]

Xan

quick

[hasty path]

Nope

[oblique trail]

an excuse for me to not join the mythic reclear in 15 minutes

I need it for my 3x HC vault

Also as a sidenote if I don't join the run might not happen

[wild mural]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cPiQcqrEy24VkbxRXne439 oh actually bracers + neck is better but I'll take -600dps for -10000000 mental boom

[plucky ice]

[wild mural]

fuck farming yknow

[past pivot]

People sleeping on crafting/recrafting a second ring. Seems a better play than neck imo.

[wild mural]

I have really good rings

[restive peak]

I have ring w flavvy pocky, big dub

[plucky ice]

igira ring simmed like garbage for me

[oblique trail]

I'm not crafting over my sockied DHT ring

not happening

[ember apex]

i got the DHT ring w/ socket and avoidance

[plucky ice]

crafted was like 2k more

[ember apex]

idk what the odds are of both of those on a single item

[wild mural]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5dLQxjhxaCnUd32eRwKrSP and crafted neck/bracer tops brh neck/bracers for me so in the long run this is better

[vale dove]

😄 i got that neck my first run xD

[wild mural]

the way I play the game, if I can minimise farming shit as much as possible I will

I hate that shit

[young swan]

u should join man

just join the despair train

ur never getting auguy

just like me

[mossy fox]

if you never get it on hc

you're first on the list for mythic surely

[young swan]

[mossy fox]

[restive peak]

We're all getting it on mythic in our vaults 1st time post fyrakkbois

ALL OF US

Just like Crit and I are getting leggo next week surely

[ember apex]

fury is somehow never first in line for trinkets for anything

[wild mural]

surely

[ember apex]

iits always better for some other dps class

[oblique trail]

I'll be there in like 2 months at this rate

[ember apex]

and in case of signet brand its literally goated for tanks

[wild mural]

I got the 1 mythic beacon that dropped when we did Sark

[young swan]

its actually best for warrior

[oblique trail]

Just a small part of me would prefer getting it before

[young swan]

not even a meme

oh wait

actually

[ember apex]

signet?

[young swan]

better for fire mage

no augury

[restive peak]

Fire mage busted as fuck now

[young swan]

who cares about poopoo mountain signet

[restive peak]

Main character needed buffs bois

[hasty path]

I mean they had to endure like a month of not being hard meta. Poor guys. Show some sympathy

[restive peak]

Facts facts

[ember apex]

yeah but im doing pug heroics now b/c rest of guild except plate dps stopped doing heroic

[oblique trail]

I wanted to be just a bit optimistic..

[ember apex]

so im never getting it basically unless it shows up in vault magically

[young swan]

ur guild is trolling then

[ember apex]

by accident

no they're playing poe

and honestly.... i understand

[young swan]

takes like a half hour to do the 5 bosses u need for bis items

nah they're just trolling

[restive peak]

Srs we did 2 5 boss heroics tues in 45mins lol

[young swan]

by not clearing heroic

[ember apex]

yeah but we either take time off prog or make ppl come to offdays and have to coordinate

we raid 2 days 3 hrs / day

6hr/week

so

not much time to fuck `round in heroic

[vale dove]

ye 486 torc for me is 207dps so within margin over the 483 neck from BRH

[wild mural]

yeah

I hope our crafter guy gets on soon

cause I need this craft D: or mental

[thorny cove]

god I miss main stat on jewelry feels so fucking bad having a ring that's 40 ilvls higher be a downgrade because of wrong stats

[past pivot]

Why? Upgrade is upgrade

[thorny cove]

I have a 437 ring still I wanna replace it already

ugly to look at it

[young swan]

i would just take the 40 ilvl for stam alone tbh

[inland flame]

If its like 5ilvl difference sure not much to care about but if someone's earned a high ilvl ring somehow that's a large ilvl boost it probably feels bad to not be able to reward yourself by using it

[hasty path]

Stam bis? Egg shell?? New tech???

[rotund steppe]

40 ilvl jesus

take the ring

[unreal onyx]

what's a avg dmg % of leggo in m+?

just had a 482 ret pally have the dot at 8.2% overall in a 20 AD

[inland flame]

Honestly part of Fury's job is to epeen about our health pools anyway

[unreal onyx]

seems like he never used the charge

[atomic nymph]

Think some recent changes made all diff damage parts aggregate into mark damage

at least for details

[young swan]

like 8-10%

pretty average

[atomic nymph]

So that 8.2% prob includes charge, if you look at details you'll prob se a biggest hit be around 300-500k ish

[young swan]

correct

they were made about a week ago

[unreal onyx]

max crit 485k

[atomic nymph]

Yeah that's a final hit of charge- crit

[frozen lake]

When sim slaving goes wrong

[wild mural]

highest I've seen is like 10.7%

[unreal onyx]

that's pretty decent

[rotund steppe]

thats nice

[unreal onyx]

I would've almost expected less tbh

[plucky ice]

free 30k+ dps kekw

[oblique trail]

It's very strong in keys

[serene whale]

I had it Around 25% too 30%

[cosmic lance]

I guess you're only giving up some cleaved BT casts to do it really

[wild mural]

yeah 25k dps it gained me

[junior gale]

One day

ill get to enjoy that too

in Fated season

[unreal onyx]

that was the first m+ key I did with someone having leggo

[rotund steppe]

can be triggered by ww?

[junior gale]

when I buy the leggo with Dinar

[oblique trail]

The dot? yes

[rotund steppe]

nice

[serene whale]

Yes

[oblique trail]

Any attack will apply the dot

[young swan]

its triggered by literally everything in our kit

[past pivot]

What 437 ring are you holding on to that's so good to hold onto over higher rings?

[young swan]

roar, OF, ww, cleaved attacks

[oblique trail]

Charge

🐀

[young swan]

charge

[unreal onyx]

throw too I assume

[atomic nymph]

ye throw works

[wild mural]

equipping this rn

[unreal onyx]

but trinkets don't proc it?

[junior gale]

Fated season soon

[wild mural]

soonge

then I have to re-farm it cause you couldn't upgrade items to fated in s4

[hasty path]

My cotank still used eranog ring on BDK for the start of this tier iirc

[unreal onyx]

or buy with dinar if possible

[wild mural]

huge

[junior gale]

its ok buy with dinar

[young swan]

jesus christ i just realized we're gonna have to re-get that piece of shit ring in fated

[wild mural]

back to my

[oblique trail]

hidden tech

[young swan]

that is aids

[past pivot]

Goated

[oblique trail]

dont play fated

[junior gale]

that ring with Augury and axe is gonna be nuts

[unreal onyx]

I have the 2 rings in bank still

[inland flame]

I was really sadge when they confirmed that Fated is just anouther round of DF raids

[wild mural]

did you get the 431?

[unreal onyx]

nah

only HC

[oblique trail]

Not sure why you'd be surprised

It's exactly what it was in SL

[hasty path]

No tert?

[unreal onyx]

but my eggnog ring is myth with avoidance

[inland flame]

I said sadge not surprised

[hasty path]

Which was billed as an experiment

[true sapphire]

That's exactly what it was last time

[plucky ice]

i hope less garbo affixes this time

[wild mural]

nope

i never get tert

[oblique trail]

Well you're still really sad as in you probably expected differently

[inland flame]

No I was hoping differently

[junior gale]

Fated is just extra content its either have fated or have nothing

[wild mural]

I would like to formally announce, that we are SO back

[true sapphire]

I really liked the buff guy in keys. Imagine the vers this go round lolol

[hasty path]

I mean… no?

[frozen lake]

Is the m+ pool next season all the df dungeons? Or not known yet

[hasty path]

I’d even just take a long tier and maybe like a mini raid over dated personally

[hasty path]

Unknown

[summer quail]

not known

[inland flame]

They haven't said anything about S4 dungos yet

[unreal onyx]

you may not like it, but this is what peak S4 performance looks like

[true sapphire]

Unknown but I would like ONE season where we ran all the dungeons from this expansion.

[thorn oriole]

does anyone is selling coach services for gold ?

[young swan]

its almost certainly just the DF dungeons

[unreal onyx]

I don't like 80% of this xpacs dungeons

[young swan]

dont see why it wouldnt be

[plucky ice]

RLP fated will be lit

[unreal onyx]

lowkey SL dungeons were better imo

[frozen lake]

Hot

[junior gale]

weird take but you do you

[olive wraith]

At least we get AA and BH again

[hasty path]

People shit talked SL dungeons

[oblique trail]

I'll simply just not play Fated

[hasty path]

And look at where we’ve been this xpac

[unreal onyx]

I never shittalked SL dungeons

[wild mural]

I am ready for s4

[unreal onyx]

except the camera in SD

[hasty path]

I shit talked TOP

Fuck that place

[plucky ice]

fk theater

[unreal onyx]

DoS was very... something

ToP was bad in high keys

[cosmic lance]

i still liked BFA dungeons more than SL

[hasty path]

Ardenweald in DOS was GOATed the rest sucked

[wild mural]

I've not really gotten on with any dungeons since wod

[true sapphire]

I thought most of the dungeons were fun this expansion. I mean keep me away from Vault please but I thought the rest were fun.

[wild mural]

but thats cause of m+ hating bias

[rotund steppe]

saw augury

[frozen lake]

BFA is so slept on. Top 3 expansion

[rotund steppe]

saw signet

[inland flame]

I didn't like Spires for some reason. Maybe just because it blew my monitor out.

[young swan]

just straight up wrong

[rotund steppe]

rolles less than 50 combined on them

[unreal onyx]

I timed a 26 DoS in SL S3, that was the peak of my performance

[true sapphire]

Spires too bright gave me headache

[young swan]

the only people that have this opinion are people that werent around for s1-s2

[wild mural]

I timed a 26 and 25 JY

[young swan]

and forgot the essence grind in s3

[cosmic lance]

BFA had a ton of issues early on

[wild mural]

That's when I peaked

[acoustic furnace]

I saw an Augury drop and lost the roll to an enhance shaman that did 60k overall DPS

Was v sad

[rotund steppe]

nyalotha was fire tho

[plucky ice]

bfa was mostly crap but the dungeons were decent

[hasty path]

I swear yall have fucked up monitor settings I never understood the bastion brightness complaints

[unreal onyx]

pugging a 26 DoS and it being a top 1000 key that season was my peak

[cosmic lance]

and corruption RNG

[young swan]

it wasnt!

[rotund steppe]

the raid was, all the other stuff wasnt