fury

[clever path]

and spear

the loboz build

lobotomy build

just wait for him to reclear it

he will do like 400k

[hasty path]

Where is roidstack on there

Too high to show?

[cosmic flax]

does anyone know what causes reck to sometimes not generate rage on pull?

[clever path]

not talenting reckless abandon?

[cosmic flax]

i am

[oblique trail]

if you prepull

as in you reck + charge before the pull happens

[cosmic flax]

gotta crack the whip on these tanks then

[clever path]

just wait like 0.2s longer

[cosmic flax]

if the timer has run out and the tanks havent pulled theyre wrong

[clever path]

i mean if you just charge in you will get meleed

[covert blaze]

so i found him, what did i win

[clever path]

you get to play his build

[covert blaze]

[clever path]

(its fucking awful)

[modest condor]

guess the boss http://puu.sh/JXdJX/0cbe391d87.png

[clever path]

3rd boss tott

100%

[modest condor]

no

[quaint stag]

rezan

[clever path]

last boss tott

[last yoke]

AD end

[modest condor]

ah yes the big reflects on rezan

no to both

[clever path]

its not foul bolts?

[hasty path]

Yazma

[modest condor]

no

[clever path]

tbf youd need like 15 reflects

[quaint stag]

waycrest?

[modest condor]

yes

7 reflects on lord waycrest

[last yoke]

you got trio to sync?

oh

[quaint stag]

do i get a prize?

[modest condor]

you get a kiss 💋

[covert blaze]

the taunt tech?

[modest condor]

yeah

[covert blaze]

i need to learn how to do that

[quaint stag]

do you just outrange and taunt reflect?

[modest condor]

no i just taunt right as he is about to start his cast

by the end of the fight i got it down perfectly

[hasty path]

Should I make a weakaura that says a random Dracula flow line whenever I taunt

[covert blaze]

not a bad idea

[hasty path]

/yell “Reach for my neck and you’ll be turned into an example.”

[last yoke]

The question is why the WA doesn't already exist

[clever path]

wasting strike?

[quaint stag]

i'd have to have taunt on my bars and i don't trust pugs to not kill myself

[modest condor]

yeah

[covert blaze]

@hasty path that's it im making a weakaura say a dracula flow quote when i Avatar

[clever path]

so its a classic taunt reflect

sunder in lair

molteon crash

etc

[hasty path]

“I’m moving different”

[clever path]

pretty cool i completely forgot you could reflect that

[modest condor]

you should try reflecting the other ability

your tank and melee will love it

[clever path]

[modest condor]

virulent patogen

[clever path]

did you need to tweak big wigs for it to show since its a tank mechanci

[last yoke]

made that mistake once

whoops

[quaint stag]

yeah i did it once, luckily i was only melee besides tank and it was near the end of the fight

[modest condor]

i use the spell cooldowns on nameplate weakaura

[clever path]

ye you have to uncheck

[clever path]

i have that too i just dont know whats the icon

[modest condor]

go into the fight and see which one restarts the countdown when wasting strike happens

[clever path]

so you just wait for the last melee before the cast

[modest condor]

you can do that but i just look at the timer and taunt at the last millisecond

[clever path]

ye that also works ik in lair on second boss

[modest condor]

tbf lair 2nd boss auto attacks did 0 damage

25 tyrannical his melees were hitting for 250k

[clever path]

got timed out

[modest condor]

yeah i saw

[clever path]

unluck

[modest condor]

used an illegal word

[clever path]

he would sometimes time his auto attack weirdly and you would have to eat it

thankfully

[clever path]

.

[modest condor]

i remember on mordretha (last boss theater of pain) you could very clearly time thetaunt between auto attacks

[solemn widget]

im think im brain dead tonight but during smolddy intermission you spear then avatar correct for spear OF ya

[modest condor]

no you avatar first

20% guaranteed damage on spear is bigger than 25% chance damage on OF

[solemn widget]

okay but on opener you spear first right?

[modest condor]

no

[solemn widget]

but critcakes video

wtf

[modest condor]

is he spearing first

wtf critcake

[quaint stag]

shadowlands had a lot of reflects for the dungeons in first 3 seasons. same for nathria

[clever path]

critcake made a mistake?????

he is human????

[modest condor]

in his top parse he avatars first

[clever path]

skolex

retch reflect

[modest condor]

on the intermissions he spears first because he already has avatar up from the OF

[clever path]

they didn't remove the dausegne reflect i think

[modest condor]

wasnt that just a deflect

[quaint stag]

lady inerva you could straight up skip an add spawning if you got targeted and pre reflected

[clever path]

maybe they made it a deflect

[modest condor]

yeah that one was big

oh wait dausegne frontal you could reflect

i was thinking of the barrage

[quaint stag]

was it shadowlands when reflect came back for warrior?

[modest condor]

yes

[clever path]

nah but guardian reflect

the ball

you could reflect it and oneshot the boss for like 2 hours

[quaint stag]

seems like they forgot how much you could actually reflect when it came back

[modest condor]

i rememeber that one

when he came out of the wall

[clever path]

ye

[quaint stag]

was it hungering destroyer you could reflect stuff too

[clever path]

i hate how much personal utility we lost

[modest condor]

hungering destroyer you could deflect the balls

[clever path]

the one i miss the most has to be zerk rage

[modest condor]

you barely used that anyway

and it takes 1 talent point to get it back

[quaint stag]

piercing howl was used quite a bit in season 1 slands kite meta at start of expansion

[modest condor]

i miss piercing howl

[clever path]

it was very handy at times

[modest condor]

locking it behind zerker rage makes no sense

[clever path]

ye

i think 1st boss mists had a fear or something

[modest condor]

it did

[quaint stag]

handy for spiteful too, although hamstring is not much different i guess

[modest condor]

i miss bfa piercing howl

[clever path]

i miss intervene a lot actually

might start taking it in raid

[quaint stag]

de other side dealer xyexa was stupidly easy for warriors with reflect, just ignored the mechanic completely

i miss being able to reflect a lot in raids, forgot stasis traps could be reflected too in nathria. Is there much we can even reflect in amidrassil besides one dot of the volcoross circle

[hasty path]

https://tenor.com/view/gromnak-gif-22401493

[clever path]

soulrender tank intervene

has to be that clip

[hasty path]

It is

You can read his lips pretty easy

“he’s a goblin?”

[clever path]

idk im bad at that

[hasty path]

I also just have autistic recollection of Gromnak clips

[clever path]

they are too funny

his entire stream is a clip as well

[drifting spire]

Zoomers thinking anything loud is funny

[clever path]

👴

its his random bursts of anger that are funny

[sage ridge]

Is there a link somewhere with all the ccs for incorp?

[clever path]

we cant deal with them iirc

at least i dont

u need a long cc

[hasty path]

Gromnak clips are funny regardless of volume

[clever path]

shattering throw i think works

never tried it

[hasty path]

The 3min one yes

[celest hearth]

pally healer and warrior tank got the legos in our group tonight...rip

[clever path]

idk i just let others deal with it

[dusky pulsar]

I'm misteriously getting 99 parses after getting the legendary damn this shit is crazy I feel so bad for the warriors that dont have it

[clever path]

its only a 15k dps increase for me

[delicate flume]

Anyone in active guilds

[clever path]

483 smolderon weapon my beloved

[delicate flume]

Having trouble making friends

[clever path]

do keys with them thats the easiest way imo

[compact knot]

can you live a ring hitting you on mythic smolderon if you pop enraged regen

[clever path]

yes

[compact knot]

thanks

[clever path]

make sure to not pop sr with er

wait for er to end then sr

[hasty path]

Nope

[dusky pulsar]

Your guild will probably not like you doing that even if you can lol

[rare fjord]

is there a concensus whether dungeon slice or 5patch 5min is a more accurate m+ sim?

both are showing me wildly differing gem and weapon rune results

[dusky pulsar]

5patch is more AOE focused

dungeon slice is more single target focused since it sims a boss too

[compact knot]

yo might of the ocean or rezan eye 489 on smolderon THOUGHTS?

[rare fjord]

5/5 tells me to go apeshit with crit

slice tellms me to keep stacking mastery, DR notwithstanding

[compact knot]

personallly im thinking might of the ocean

[rare fjord]

i have that

and hc augury too

both give crazy crit

and yet 5m/5p insists i need more

[dusky pulsar]

CD uptime on smolderon is trash

go rezan probably

[compact knot]

wrong

its perfect if you drop the orbs out far

[covert blaze]

''no fucking way that's a goblin''

[clever path]

prob might

[dusky pulsar]

even if you drop them far out

[clever path]

wdym

[dusky pulsar]

you're not getting a good uptime on spear

on it

[clever path]

yes u are

you sit in the ring

pop er and heal through it

[dusky pulsar]

well if your guild allows that

then yes

[clever path]

you dont even need external healing

why wouldnt they

[compact knot]

fuck it n ball

[clever path]

if you dont die and can deal more dmg

a lot more dmg

[compact knot]

i have 20% leech

i wont die

[dusky pulsar]

because healers can't unfocus you just because it's you

[clever path]

ez

[dusky pulsar]

they heal shit with debuffs/dropping health

[clever path]

ye but the point is

you can live it yourself

even if thye dont heal you

you wont die

sure you could use er somewhere else to heal back but if you dont do stupid shit you dont need it

make sure to space er and sr well and you wont die

er in the ring sr after er ends

[elder vessel]

whats fury mastery cap

soft cap

[summer quail]

Use IV other places to heal

[clever path]

19 billion

there is none

just sim yourself

[dusky pulsar]

54%

[rare fjord]

you start dring at ~5800

[clever path]

yep

dont need anything else realistically

[summer quail]

DR doesn't matter

[rare fjord]

yes it does?

[clever path]

how

[summer quail]

No it doesn't

[clever path]

i had 6500 mastery

[sullen dove]

[dusky pulsar]

raid lead doesn't want me to do it anyways, I'm wasting a defensive

[clever path]

unlucky

you arent trustworthy i guess

(jk)

do it on reclears then

[dusky pulsar]

probably should

I just killed it 1 hour ago

[clever path]

definitely should its a pretty big dps gain

[rare fjord]

10% stat DR starts at 5400mastery, 20% is at 6020

use that knowledge however you see fit

[balmy shore]

anyone have hot tips for fps during mythic tindral roots

[brittle crow]

I PARSED A 7 ON VOLCOROSS?

its so over for me

worst warrior NA

[summer quail]

Gamer

[dusky pulsar]

it can probably go to a 50 parse just by having uptime on the boss you can hit it from pretty much the middle of the platform

[brittle crow]

i had 99.6% uptime

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JhzpPA1wRZrg2fk4#fight=last&type=damage-done

xd

[half cargo]

7 sounds like you died right after the opener

[dusky pulsar]

This is out of the realm of my expertise then

Going for a build with spear instead of thunderous roar might help too

[elder vessel]

whats the closest to accurate way to sim for mythic plus

[static nest]

is it normal that my highest sim between fyrakk/might/rezans is always fyrakk + rezans

by like 3%

on 1, 5 and 8 targets

[half cargo]

Just sim single target and feelycraft trinket choices

[timid salmon]

Did you guys see the Macro Video for rampage and bloodbath ? Does this make any sense or is it clickbait

[half cargo]

[brittle crow]

:(

[covert blaze]

this

[clever path]

this

[covert blaze]

this :pantsgrab:

[dusky pulsar]

it makes sense but it might make you press bloodthirst when you can actually press slam first to get rage then rampage then improved bt

[covert blaze]

don't do that

[clever path]

it onyl casts bb

[timid salmon]

Yeah it only casts bb

[clever path]

but its still a bad idea

its not even bad its useless

why would you want that

its literally

a 2 button rotation

[covert blaze]

class has like 4 buttons

blud wants it to have less

and lose damage in the process

[timid salmon]

If I’m honest I wanted it to work because my fingers hurt playing fury haha

The apm kills me but it’s so much fun

[clever path]

they would hurt more if you played arms

[covert blaze]

apm do be fun

[clever path]

at least in my case

[dusky pulsar]

at least it's not a raging blow season

[covert blaze]

[clever path]

mirror haste gaming

[timid salmon]

Arms ? The heck Arms is like 50% apm compared to fury

[dusky pulsar]

they feel pretty similar and I've played both

in terms of apm

[timid salmon]

Arms feel way slower for me I mean look at the bladedtorm windows

2 times in every pack

[clever path]

imagine playing bladestorm

[timid salmon]

That’s like 10 seconds where I press nothing haha

I think u should play bladestorm on arms? Haha

[half cargo]

Nope

[clever path]

jugg build goated

[timid salmon]

For m+?

[clever path]

yes

[timid salmon]

Need to try that

Cause arms felt really weak for me in m+

[half cargo]

Arms hurts less because you’re pressing a variety of buttons

Whereas fury mashes one a lot

That’s generally the root of rsi

[clever path]

i dont think fury reaches arms levels of haste in m+ with mirror

cuase mirror gives me mast and i dont even play it as fury

even without mirror arms seems faster for me in keys

inftk + 37% compared to 25% haste as fury

[half cargo]

Essentially the speed or apm doesn’t matter much

[timid salmon]

What

[half cargo]

It’s what it causes you to do

[timid salmon]

I run 35% haste on fury with 2x wafting

[clever path]

idk i think you are right on this

[clever path]

.

[timid salmon]

Makes sense

[clever path]

i am 25% with 2 wafting 65% mast and 25% vers

and like 20% crit at 486

well i was

not anymore

recrafted my gear into arms gear

since break

and i nejoy arms a lot more

[timid salmon]

How much ur averaging on keys

Overall

[clever path]

did 300k with the jugg build without aug bm hunter did 300k as well and havoc did like 270k or something

keep in mind i fucked up

played soa instead of improved ss

halfway through the pack i would stop cleaving

that havoc was ass

[timid salmon]

Jugg build is the raid build right ?

[clever path]

similar

[timid salmon]

I just checked wowhead

Where can I find urs

[clever path]

well i played this

soa instead of imp ss cause i forgot to change

[timid salmon]

Will try

How much were u averaging on fury

[clever path]

honestly

no clue

forgot

not really doing keys this season

[timid salmon]

Kk got you

[clever path]

im pretty sure my overalls are higher as arms tho

boss dmg is where it hurts

[timid salmon]

That’s weird

[clever path]

as fury i was doing like 200k on st

arms is like 170k ish

[timid salmon]

Fury should do way more right now compared to arms

On average

[clever path]

depends on key level and how fast stuff dies

arms has cds more regularly

as arms i get 2 wbs every single time

in packs

[timid salmon]

Whats wbs

[clever path]

warbreakers

wb = warbreaker

its a really fun build overall

[timid salmon]

Makes sense

[clever path]

gameplay is fast and fluid unlike fury

[timid salmon]

U got the code to copy ?

I try that build tomorrow

[clever path]

its on wowhead im pretty sure

nvm it isnt for some reason

[timid salmon]

Yeah

Just checked aswell

[clever path]

just copy this i guess

you dont have to play uproar btw since it desyncs roar with avatar

especially if you have might

i just played it to test it out

key dependent imo

[torn anchor]

I just got Fyrakks trinket and I was sure it would sim higher than razans but not the case. I thought fyrakks was better

[sullen dove]

[summer quail]

Augury is better

[sullen dove]

i mean if you have like a looot of crit maybe because its crit statstick a little less valuable

but generally should be better yea

[clever path]

i dont think a 489 augury is better than a 489 rezans iirc

[torn anchor]

Yeah thats what im working with

[clever path]

i mean generally just sim yourself and run what it tells you

how much crit do you have

[sudden tusk]

just post the sim

easiest way for people to tell

[torn anchor]

With Augury on 2896 - 23%

[clever path]

sim 3 minutes if you care about heroic logs

unless fyrakk

[torn anchor]

running it now

[clever path]

cause u are prob dropping signet on hc bosses - fyrakk

send the 5 minute

[torn anchor]

k let me run

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2DzPNZJSTBU6HQcFzfAW2h

[clever path]

idk if it impacts anything but dont sim with pi

[sullen dove]

eh i mean 300 more apparently

[clever path]

ye i remember having this conversation earlier

rezans at equal ilvl should be ahead slightly

i would just run augury over it since its a lot less random

[slim coral]

https://youtu.be/TpAU32jjHoE?t=16

yo look at this shit

for fury

wtf

[modest condor]

no, for furry

[clever path]

late asf with that

[torn anchor]

Yeah Ill use augury for now

[clever path]

been posted like 10 times already

and its for furry warrior not fury

[slim coral]

GUess we a one button spec now

is anyone actualyl using this?

[sullen dove]

idk can try ig but what would it replace

like there are still times you hit bt

[clever path]

100% there are people who use it

[modest condor]

im sure someone is

[sudden tusk]

i mean you can just replace your rampage button with it

[torn anchor]

I tried it, only thing Ive noticed is it helps with not double rampaging

[sudden tusk]

and spam it during reck windows

[torn anchor]

I mean I dont spam 1 button

[sullen dove]

yea maybe, tryina think if that would conflict with actually wanting to hit rampage seperately but maybe it doesnt

[sudden tusk]

fuck it mid tendril prog ill try it

[torn anchor]

But I keep it as rampage so in case I accidently press it tiwce

[clever path]

reduce lag tolerance

thats how i stopped double rampaging

[slim coral]

thats what I was about to do

lmao

[sullen dove]

since like, if you dont have bb it basically just is rampage

[torn anchor]

where is that at?

@clever path for that lag tolerance thing you were saying

[clever path]

just search it up archi explained it before

there are infinite videos on yt

i forgot the command

[torn anchor]

All good, Ill look it up

[meager void]

search here spellqueuewindow

#fury message

just not 150

[clever path]

ms+100 generally

[meager void]

set it to 100+ms yeah

[clever path]

never below

too low = missing gcds

too high = buffering

inputs

[meager void]

i feel better at ms+150

[clever path]

idk im at 155 i think

i have like 30 ping

felt better

[meager void]

To see value:
/dump GetCVar("SpellQueueWindow")

to set value:
/console SpellQueueWindow ###

[torn anchor]

They we go, set to 155 so we will see if it feels better

my ping is 28

[silk wharf]

I've recently upped mine to 150~. I was playing at 110 for a long time but decided I wasnt using the spell queue window to its fullest. I think 150 is too high for me, but only slightly.

Still the odd double rampage.

[meager void]

whats a good signet uptime for m+?

[clever path]

depends on the key

there are keys where it will fall off

no matter what you do

[silk wharf]

it does feel bad when that happens

[meager void]

i feel like augury meshes better with my group but idk

[clever path]

augury>signet in keys definitely

unless for every single boss

you can walk into the fight with 15 stacks

[storm rune]

Laughs in BRH*

[static nest]

on the topic of trinkets

i asked before but got ignored luhmao

i thought might was giga but between might/fyrakk/rezan my highest sim was fyrakk+rezan by like 3%

on 1, 5 and 8 targets 3 minutes each

is that normal

all 483

[covert blaze]

simming so long wont do might justice

[clever path]

i mean 3 minuters

is by far the worst possible

timing

for might

do 3:30

[static nest]

oop

may have forgotten kek

[covert blaze]

dont know why youre even considering rezan over might in aoe

but you should do a short sim

[clever path]

literally

augury+might in m+

[covert blaze]

just run might fyrakk in m+ and you will be fine yeah

[storm rune]

Rezan over fyrakk, face the power of the loa

[clever path]

signet could be better in like 29s on tyran if you can start every boss at 15 stacks

[static nest]

prob better for tyran weeks tho no?

[clever path]

if u start the boss with 0 stacks

signet is useless

it wont stack

you need to start the boss with 15

augury is always good

on aoe/st

any fight length

[slim coral]

I think the swords from smolderon are some of the best they have made in a while

[clever path]

real

using one

the green one

heroic i guess

necrolord weapon thing looks cool on it as well

nvm it doesnt

[slim coral]

I'm using the mythic one with the tier set

[clever path]

how can you use the tierset

[slim coral]

althought I think it could look good with the pvp set from last tier

[clever path]

might actually have to pvp this season

[slim coral]

I have the mog

[clever path]

why

its so ass

[slim coral]

I look like the jugg from xmen

it's pretty sick

[clever path]

somethings that actually beyond sick

is the gladiator dragonriding skin

will do pvp this season

to get it

last time i did pvp in sl

it was just

charge all cds

ez glad

bubble? sthrow

mage? spell reflect

guardian druid?

leave

[covert blaze]

hotel? trivago

[clever path]

real

[balmy shore]

i kinda like the tier set look now

just without helm (personally)

i use it on my alt warr

i used to be a hater

[clever path]

tauren moment i guess

look at it

its so bad

[covert blaze]

i farmed the lock glad set

i farmed like 3.5k conquest in a week

[clever path]

ye idk it felt easy

maybe it was easy cause i played with a player that 1v2d half the arenas

tbf havoc was insane back then

in pvp

it was for the weapon effect

[slim coral]

delete this

now

this shit is ugly on that race

[clever path]

EVERYTHING IS UGLY

ON TAUREN

I HATE IT

[covert blaze]

woah dude

[clever path]

well well well

[covert blaze]

cancel baze

[clever path]

why are healers complaining

again

for like the 19345th time

this expac

play a guardian druid with 2 augs

fuck healers

or prot pala

[slim coral]

https://www.twitch.tv/critcakeeu/clip/ToughExpensiveSkirretKlappa-thfSTrIiWAz9yRMu?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

[covert blaze]

HAHAHAHA

he said ''in game'' after

goated

[slim coral]

Yeah took him a min to say it

[hallow sphinx]

[slim coral]

I'm almost free

[clever path]

critcake cancelled??????

[dense elbow]

Crit said he like Odyn's Fury. Crit can do no wrong in my eyes

Also, buff OF baseline by 51%

[slim coral]

I did 15 mill on boss p1

pretty pog

[astral path]

bring back legion odyns fury damage

[dense elbow]

If Thane is Avatar, RB, BT, TC, Rav. Then surely, Shockwave, BT, RB, SR, OF is the other path. Right?

[clever path]

i mean its still early in production but it is gonna be about thunderclap for sure

[covert blaze]

yeah it makes shockwave single target

[slim coral]

make thunderous roar shoot thunder

that'd be pog

[covert blaze]

[clever path]

make roar transform you into idk and shoot thunder around

that would be cool

[covert blaze]

you can play elden ring at that point

[dense elbow]

I doubt we will get two thunder themes. Hopefully we get sunlight and grass as our 2nd theme

We get to turn shockwave into a certain nature flavoured version of itself

[clever path]

overrated game

ds3 is better

[covert blaze]

I like ds3 better yeah

[slim coral]

they can easily implement thunder into roar

[dense elbow]

Sure. But why do the same theme twice?

[slim coral]

What do you mean twice

[dense elbow]

Thane already is thunderbolt and lightning, very very frightening

[slim coral]

you just implement it into the talent

we have other abilites activiating thunder

just add roar in

[dense elbow]

I mean, if you just want more thunder for both hero talent trees, then I guess you do you

[cerulean edge]

Is Ember of Nullification simming really well in Multitarget for anyone else? Anytime I sim 5-target Patchwerk, it's second only to Might of the Ocean

[clever path]

vers is agood stat and its a stat stick

makes sense

• its useful in keys as well

[snow edge]

It is by no means a terrible M+ trinket; Might + Augury is better, but Augury isn't available to everyone

Just ask Banezi

[full token]

What are the best M+ trinkets?

[covert blaze]

read 1 message above

[snow edge]

Holy moly

[dense elbow]

Might+Aug, I am 89% sure. Perhaps the shield trinky at high enough keys

We will see

[clever path]

im like 99% sure as a warrior you dont need it to live

fury*

[cerulean edge]

I was wondering if I was missing something about it, or if it really is just a strong stat stick. I might play around with it. I was running 483 Rezans and 476 Signet Brand for Tyrannical week, but I just finally scored a 483 Might, and started playing around with trinket sims again

[full token]

mirror sims better than my might for aoe

im using both for m+ tho

[snow edge]

Mirror is a pain in the ass

[snow edge]

Holy moly you ain't using 2 on use trinkets are you

[clever path]

arms tho

[full token]

sims best

[clever path]

doesnt that

[slim coral]

yes mmore thunder good

[clever path]

force might to desync

[dense elbow]

Pip over goreblock? Ain't no way

[slim coral]

We are suppose to be thunder gods

[clever path]

arms

[snow edge]

Dude, you gotta apply some critical thinking

[covert blaze]

simming for m+ can be misleading if you dont know what youre doing

[clever path]

you want mirror on big pulls and might on smaller pulls but you are always desyncing something

[snow edge]

You are using a 1.5min on-use trinket that aligns with our CDs perfectly; when are you using the 3min trinket?

[full token]

I also have

[snow edge]

^ the 2 can never be aligned

[full token]

but it dont sim well for aoe

[covert blaze]

it will help on bosses to run rezan

def dont run 2 on use

might + rezan until you get augury

might + crab/block can be decent too

[full token]

i sim Patchwork 5 boss for 1 min.. best representation of a aoe pull in keys

[snow edge]

Might imo is much better, working around a 3min on-use trinket is a pain in the ass in dungeons

[covert blaze]

yeah but mirror has a 3 min cd

[clever path]

This may sound like a dumb question, but if we take titanic rage, if we charge with reck and use odyns without already being enraged, does the enrage from the talent make odyns benefit from it?

[snow edge]

That's not a good sim

[covert blaze]

you dont have both trinkets for every pack do you

[snow edge]

That's a bad sim tbh

Archi has pointed out multiple times the flaw in that sim model

[covert blaze]

so you are misleading yourself with that sim

[dense elbow]

Well, you could run two 3min CD ones, and rotate each on every 1.5 min usage

[full token]

so whats the best aoe sim model?

[plush flower]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-what-i-just-read-gif-20766315

[covert blaze]

you dont need to sim aoe

there's really not much discussion to be had regarding what trinkets to run in m+

[snow edge]

Just use dungeon slice, or apply some critical thinking when it comes to trinkets

[dense elbow]

Clearly it is alchemist stone and counterweight

[plush flower]

Sim ST, run whichever trinkets you have that are better for m+

[covert blaze]

[snow edge]

Might + a passive trinket is generally best, i.e. Crab / Augury, even Pips / Ember / Block aren't terrible choices in M+

Might + Mirror just isn't the play

[plush flower]

double on use is not smart especially a 1.5 and a 3m

[clever path]

pips is really good in aoe

[snow edge]

Just hard to get a hold of one, we're still farming Heroic to get them for other classes in our guild

• Mythic

[clever path]

ye thats true

[full token]

idk the 20 second cool down on the other on use doesnt really hurt too bad

[covert blaze]

1 pack then the next pack you will do negative damage cause you dont have a passive trinket that's up for every single pack

[full token]

i still get to use both in one pull

yeah thats fair

[clever path]

might not giving mainstat doesnt help either

you want it on cd

[covert blaze]

you run what you want, we've explained why it's bad

[full token]

ok so might and rezan than?

[covert blaze]

that's what I would do until you get augury/pip/crab/block

[dense elbow]

Rezan is quite decent on Tyra, block is great if you can get it

[full token]

I have block but it simmed worse that might+mirror

[snow edge]

You're running a bad sim though, we've said that too

[covert blaze]

stop looking at sims for trinkets in aoe

[snow edge]

5targets 1min isn't a good sim anyway

[covert blaze]

might block is fine

[full token]

ok so give me a sim

solutions

[covert blaze]

don't need a sim

we are literally telling you what's best

what more do you want

[full token]

a list

[plush flower]

just get more options 🙂

[full token]

a guide

[snow edge]

Zhai literally listed the trinkets, and I did before as well

[covert blaze]

multiple people have done that already

do you want me to log in and equip them for you

[full token]

all the warrior guides have single target trinkets ranked

[snow edge]

Might + Augury as BiS, otherwise probably Crab > Pips > Block > Ember

[full token]

okay thank you

ill make my own guide i guess

[slim coral]

They better not let me down visually with the thunder effects

I will be upsetti spaghetti

[covert blaze]

you've infected my mind, now i want TR to have thunder vfx

[slim coral]

add shock effects as well on shcokwave

[full token]

omg i have crab too

lol

[plush flower]

https://u.gg/wow/fury/warrior/gear if you absolutely need something to look at rather than the same 3 people here telling you what to run you can look at this

[slim coral]

You might want to go to a doctor for that

[dense elbow]

That site got blocked by my isp for being dangerous

[snow edge]

It is dangerous

[dense elbow]

I will check it out another time

[full token]

ok so out of these... Might+crab best for M+

[mental drum]

how good is Cata Signet Brand for AoE?

[dense elbow]

I die on my hill saying block over crab, but it is basically preference

[clever path]

bad

[plush flower]

might and butchers block probably better but play around with it and see what you like better

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-thunder-gif-22302409

Moutain Thaine

pov

[full token]

id think block over crab so you can get those bloodthirst crits

[covert blaze]

I feel like block could be better for more optimized stat distribution and crab the other way around

[dense elbow]

Perhaps, I swim in versa/mast

[urban tapir]

Block/might does sim best for me in 5tgt patch (over crab, signet)

[covert blaze]

yeah crit is good in aoe for sure

[dense elbow]

This is the cosmetic content we would pay 90$ for in the store for

[slim coral]

Only 90?

[covert blaze]

I'm making getting declined from 23s a professional sport

[slim coral]

26s are even worse

it's so annoying since I'm not meta

[plush flower]

im 487, i get invited to groups just so they can see if I have the leggo (i don't) and then get booted. doesn't happen a lot but its

[covert blaze]

[covert blaze]

i bet

[velvet basalt]

We want to use might before popping avatar, right?

[gilded pawn]

macro might to reck

[stuck bison]

Yeah after the new devo,monk,mage buffs i started to not get +22s invites anymore

[edgy widget]

Yep, because you will often use OF before Avatar, macro trinkets to Reck instead of Ava

[velvet basalt]

Does it matter the order in the macro?

/use 13
/cast Recklessness

or other way around

[sullen dove]

shouldnt

[velvet basalt]

Do you guys keep whirlwind bound or macro it to globals so that it is used when its up

[covert blaze]

bound

[fringe vale]

is there a chance to get it from lfr or its pointless to run lfr?

[half wing]

If u can do hc, its pointless to run lfr

[fringe vale]

no yeah i mean for 3 id's since like yeah

i do it on norm and heroic

and lfr last

[half wing]

After u kill hc, u get stacked ur chances from lfr and normal

[remote tulip]

do we macro it with anything or no

[half wing]

I didnt, but need wa for cd

[fringe vale]

check the last ping

lucky bastard

[sullen dove]

so sick of war on smolderon

dogshit rings

stupid fucking cooldowns

[daring zephyr]

I wouldn’t macro it with anything because then you might use it when the channel will get you killed

[sullen dove]

1 out of 4 intermissions we are allowed to adequately use cooldowns on boss

[remote tulip]

im sorry you'll get yours!

[remote tulip]

oh yeah true

[prisma nest]

You also use it when your sometimes out of melee range for a mechanic and WW will still hit

[remote tulip]

oooh interesting ok thank you!!

[verbal garden]

In ST situations I'm using WW more than I would like as filler. What am I doing wrong?

[prisma nest]

Nothing

[vague sand]

nothing, its just how it is when low on rage for rampage

when u find pressing slam a ton or just not having anything to press, then start worrying

[verbal garden]

Ah, so it's normal. Just didn't feel right.

[clever path]

what

put your orbs far out

and you get them on your cds

[sullen dove]

yea i still do

its dogshit

first set i use spear in the last like 5 seconds before debuff falls off

and boss is like, leaving the middle

as much as i just want to eat the world in flames cause i can live that with ER, also very desperately feel the need to have it for other points in the fight

[grizzled wadi]

Hey, do you know what is the best moment to use the leggo effect in Fury ? Tried yesterday in the raid and my answer is... Never. What do you think ?

[errant pond]

look at pinned

[grizzled wadi]

This one is new thanks

MT ability only then

[still swift]

look at this loser mogging the legendary instead of using smolderon ones

[summer quail]

that is not what the pin says

[errant pond]

what is the name of that ui addon

[still swift]

narcissus

[errant pond]

ty

should I be pressing bloodthirst at all or only bloodbaths

[still swift]

use it over slams/whirlwinds for generation

[sonic magnet]

so i kinda mash my keys abit, is there a way to make a macro that wont let me rampage twice in a row lol

cause during hero ive done it on accident

[errant pond]

/Bloodbath

/Rampage

/cast first obv

[edgy widget]

yes, you want to use bloodthirst almost on cooldown

[grizzled wadi]

Why skip a rampage ?

[sonic magnet]

RA proc

[grizzled wadi]

What is RA

[still swift]

lmao

reckless abandon

aka rampage makes bloodbath

[grizzled wadi]

ty

To many short forms

Especially if you don't play in English localisation

[still swift]

having game not in English should be punishable

[serene moat]

That won't work in a makro, I'm pretty sure.
Makroing a prio list would make most classes 1 button mashing ..

[sonic magnet]

nah that macro does work

[serene moat]

#showtooltip
/cast bloodbath
/cast rampage

That will work? Weird...

[errant pond]

😂

[still swift]

you can castsequence it

[sonic magnet]

prolly not gonna use it but it works

[still swift]

maybe..

[serene moat]

Fixes the issue of double ramp during very low gcd phases but makes up some other probs.

[edgy widget]

See: #fury message
and #fury message

it works, and maybe someone might find it useful, but it's not something I'd universally recommend - while there's a convenience to 1-button rotating BB/Rampage, there's also a convenience to playing BT/BB on the same bind, and it's pretty easy to trip over trying to press Bloodbath via macro followed by Bloodthirst's normal bind due, since the general flow of Fury is to press Bloodthirst/Bath (almost) every other GCD

[subtle lagoon]

dh shit on

[still swift]

why did he disconnect halfway through

[eternal sundial]

BDK damage

[subtle lagoon]

Died a few times

[clever path]

phil

i got aotc

with dbm

[elder vessel]

small pump in dht before we bricked on last boss

[covert blaze]

Circles hard

[eternal sundial]

Nice

[still swift]

why is my 1.5k rio and insane ilvl of 466 not enough to be accepted into 17s

they should be pleading me to join fr

[slim pollen]

Apparently 485 ilvl, 2,9ish rio and 4 mythic bosses wasn't enough for most of the normal fyrakk groups i tried to sign up for last night soo... 😂

[still swift]

i have a 22 wcm

idk about that...

i mean pushing rio with 1.5k isnt exactly a thing

[covert blaze]

Just gotta play the game

[still swift]

im mostly just keeping the key so i can play it w my tank later so we can actually guarantee decent keys

i didnt do too bad in the 20 i did okay

aside from dying on the first pull + bl cuz i pressed buttons and got aggro..

its ok i got accepted into a 12 rise

good enough for now

need gorehowl

[tame yarrow]

You can just reduce your key and farm 18-20 wirh your own key. Will be way faster than queing for invites 🙂

[fading sky]

i mean how i play these days is

i dont inv meta classes into my key

just in protest

[tame yarrow]

What do you mean? Warrior always meta

[vale dove]

wheres the challenge in that, always fun to beat meta fotm rerollers who dont know how to play

[fading sky]

hmm i try to do it to actually help other players ngl

the challange isnt real though

if they are good players they will beat you

its not close enough atm

[vale dove]

Not wrong

we only get closer with lego

but even then its probably not close enough

My DH can pump out 300k+ easy on every dungeon closest i've come on my war is 280k 😢

all be it my DH is 486 and my wars only 480

[wild mural]

yes

[tidal kindle]

Look how much damage warrior does in raid

https://clips.twitch.tv/CrowdedSincereOstrichCmonBruh-VwVoOpe3gvo325dK

[summer quail]

you can do 300k+ in some dungeons atleast no problem

[clever path]

gfury

[vale dove]

Ye pretty sure I can just not got the gear or score to get in to keys high enough to do it

[wild mural]

huge gaming

[tidal kindle]

[summer quail]

at 480 in like a brh you should be able to

[vale dove]

this week things just die

too fast

😄

[tidal kindle]

Think dht is also pretty favorable to warriors if things can live long enough

[clever path]

its favorable because of gorehowl

[vale dove]

im only doing 18s atm though

[tidal kindle]

OF/cds own on first 2 bosses + reflect nm bolt on xavius

[wild mural]

imagine ever getting targeted by anything for SR

I did 2 thrones last night, one on 18 and one on 22 and I only got crushing depths in the 18

[slim coral]

Reactions getting slow

[summer quail]

how was tswift prog baze? i watched some of it

[wild mural]

I did a 20 AD and got a couple of wracking pain tho

[tidal kindle]

Didn't even see it

[clever path]

real

[tidal kindle]

If i was zoomer i coulde charged mid leap maybe

[clever path]

im an arms coper now i just blame everything on the spec

[clever path]

👴

[mossy fox]

me too man im so slow now

bring back yung crit

[tidal kindle]

Good luck with this NEXT expac BUDDY

ARMS is gonna OWN

[wild mural]

I was never fast

[clever path]

arms owns this expac as well

[slim coral]

Good almost got it killed

Should kill Saturday

[south kayak]

dhs with signet

[summer quail]

Nice

[wild mural]

Baze not CE already?

unreal

[south kayak]

baze u have axe?

[slim coral]

Nope

[south kayak]

F

[slim coral]

[clever path]

imagine having axe

[wild mural]

Axe enjoyers

[noble frost]

Double checking something
Fury ST
Execute phase
What is the skill priority?
As when i have ashes juggernaut it feels like execute is on every other gcd

[wild mural]

you guys probably still outdps me even w/o axe but axe enjoyers

[clever path]

you want to bb->exe->ramp outside of spear

[noble frost]

Massacre and ashen juggernaut*

[clever path]

during spear you want to bb->ramp->bb until it ends

then continue pressing execute

[noble frost]

Ah alright big danks

[clever belfry]

classique

me when i press hover and i didnt neutral and i just yeet across 2

(happened only once okay)

[slim coral]

Once I finish this raid I’m taking a break

[mossy fox]

young crit was insane...

wish i was him...

[slim coral]

These last two bosses are draining

[mossy fox]

weak

[slim coral]

lol

I’m 400 pulls in give me a break

[shell jackal]

if you're slow then the rest of us are fucked haha

[slim coral]

Btw has your raid lead raged once this tier

I feel like he isn’t the same

Or maybe I missed the moments

[clever belfry]

Take me back to nighthold

walk into boss (no prep)
don't die
roll dps

[tawdry lily]

Weak

[fallow oracle]

why have i just seen a log where a guy pressed fyralath once on tindral

[wild mural]

deadge?

[fallow oracle]

nah just pressed it once randomly in p2

not a single time otherwise

[slim coral]

He probably got pregnant

[wild mural]

[clever belfry]

🫃

[mossy fox]

fyralath use will be hasted by the time i loot it

[wild mural]

into the shadow realm

[wild mural]

the damage isn't that bad

[edgy widget]

why? So you have to Reck->Charge->Rampage just to be able to use it on the pull?
Or would you rather gamble Charge->BT? 😆

[fallow oracle]

[mossy fox]

i just want the cast to be faster

maybe it isnt all that bad, i dont have it after all

[tribal spindle]

Has anyone have it happened that you charged a seed on Tindral?

[mossy fox]

if you charge through a seed you will soak it yes

[fallow oracle]

yer its great when no one soaks under boss and u charge back into it

[tribal spindle]

No i mean you actually charge the seed

[fallow oracle]

ppl were allergic to seeds under boss in our raid for some reason so i just started soaking it

[mossy fox]

o right, no never happened to me

[tribal spindle]

It happened for me yesterday in p3. My character did a 180 and went for a seed. According to logs i cast charge on tindral

The seed in question wasn't even on my screen so it wasn't mouseover

[mossy fox]

couldnt be me 🙃

[wild mural]

soonge tindral prison :/

we've not even killed smolderon yet

[fallow oracle]

when you get a mouse bug on a leap, camera spins and you dive straight into a beam is also a good one

only happened to me once tho

[tribal spindle]

@mossy fox here's the log from yesterday when i charge the seed if you want to see it. Happens in the last 10 seconds since we were already wiping at the start off p3. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DTnWNxrBckp1fdLF#fight=42&view=replay

and on cast in logs you can see i cast charge on tindral

[wild mural]

Oh yooooo wessablues in your guild

tell him angy says yo

[proud elm]

What are we crafting this week? second ring?

[eternal sundial]

For me it's ring yep

[clever path]

Guys I suck at mythic council it's like there's so much input lag

What do

[wild mural]

get benched

[clever path]

Almost there

[wild mural]

I have an agreement with my RL, im perma benched on council

fuck that fight

[tribal spindle]

@mossy fox Here's vod from my dead raid leader when i charge the seed. You can spot me in the top right close to middle. sorry if i ping you too much. https://www.twitch.tv/tumbas/clip/DistinctSuaveShrewDuDudu--Afa0EQZJr18ADYY

[summer quail]

if tanks suck at positioning(which most do) target the one that's within execute range and just stay on that.

[wild mural]

is it worth it....

[frosty heron]

If you do mythic raids and io push . Might be worth it . S4 still on it's way

[wild mural]

I dont really push, and Im progging smoldy atm

hmmm

[eternal sundial]

Yuh

[wild mural]

how much difference does it actually make?

[fading sky]

welwl it makes 86 str worth of difference

i just bought it coz why not

all depends on how much gold u have and make in a an expansion i guess

[wild mural]

I guess Im gonna do some boosting

[frosty heron]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vnrK47vgxk53ohX6s35H9p

without

[fading sky]

i just used proffesions to make my gold

[frosty heron]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u6D1QMKB4VnWo5H6ca6QRT

With

[wild mural]

I can't stand doing profs

[fading sky]

ah i lowkey love em

[wild mural]

oh shit it's like 1k dps

[fading sky]

only lowkey no 1000 alts

but my warrior has bs back from ... tbc

[wild mural]

guy in my guild has every prof maxxed out all recipes

I dont need to do them :d

[frosty heron]

Got a crafter also mad man have all everything maxed out

[wild mural]

my wallet hurts

[frosty heron]

Hahha just do some raid boosting .

Sr gets you 190k

[wild mural]

really? thats not bad

[frosty heron]

Yea

If your raid is good . 1 hour and 30 you are done.

We did a sr 13-15 . We started around 19h45 and finished at 21h30. With tindral and fyrakk split

[wild mural]

oh thats not bad

im locked on nm and hc tho

😄

[frosty heron]

Yea it's saved run

[wild mural]

ohhh