fury

[clever path]

Shadowlands had decent ideas but executed them in the worst ways possible

[dense elbow]

The first raid in DF was good too

[young swan]

have u done any of the hard fights yet?

[restive peak]

Shadowlands had Painsmith and Halondrus ok, we were blessed.

[fair star]

Bro fyrakk has like 3 mechanics

[restive peak]

Mythic fyrakk has 3 mechanics?

LEWL

[young swan]

lmfao

[fair star]

Yes

[restive peak]

Ok

[clever path]

Frosty out here talking nonsense

[fair star]

Did u play nyalotha

That stuff was fire

[dense elbow]

Frosty, you only been on a L streak, accept that Nelf is superior and that you are wrong on everything.

[fair star]

S tier raid

[young swan]

nya sucked

[fair star]

#changemymind

[young swan]

hate that raid

[fair star]

Fym

It literally had the best mechanics

[young swan]

soccer balls, no dispel ilgynoth, ra'den p2

[dense elbow]

I only liked Nya because of corruptions, the boss fights were... pretty meh.

[young swan]

all dogshit

nzoth was like

fine

i guess

[dense elbow]

Nzoth LFR was fire

[fair star]

U get to feed a dog,u catch balls,u throw balls,u dodge dics

[young swan]

shadhar was a joke, hivemind was just mechanic vomit

vexiona was solid

wrathion was dogshit lead foot mechanic

[fair star]

Nyalotha was the best raid

[young swan]

absolutely not

not even top 5

[fair star]

Top 1

[covert blaze]

Hivemind was very fun

[frank dawn]

Nyalotha…wat

[covert blaze]

I would press epidemic and get 1 fps

[fair star]

What is best raid if not for nyalotha

[frank dawn]

This man wildin’

[dense elbow]

Frosty, stop, you gonna get banned ;-;

[young swan]

nighthold

antorus

nathria

[clever path]

Nya was held back by a shit expansion and systems.

[fair star]

Ok top 5

[young swan]

SoO

[clever path]

Imo

[zealous steppe]

Yeah I'd chill Frosty lol

[young swan]

ToT

[fair star]

Tot?

[clever path]

Throne of thunder is great

[young swan]

throne of thunder

[zealous steppe]

One of the best raids they've ever made

[fair star]

I started playing bfa s4

[covert blaze]

DN

[fair star]

[clever path]

Pandaria had some good raids tbh

[zealous steppe]

Hellfire Citadel >>>

[young swan]

ok ur actually just a clown

[fair star]

Why

[young swan]

trying to comment on best raids of all time

started playing in bfa s4

[dense elbow]

Ye, Frosty, how dare you have a personal opinion? You are so wrong. Tsk tsk.

[left perch]

Ulduar

[clever path]

Bfa was such a bad expansion. The only thing that people tend to like from it are corruptions and they were built to be game breaking lol

[zealous steppe]

Raids are subjective. They can be good and bad.

[young swan]

i mean trying to say a raid is the best raid and not having experienced like 80% of all raids is clown shit

[fair star]

U dont even consider eternal palace

[young swan]

it wasnt a good raid

[fair star]

I have,i just have one shot them

[left perch]

most raids were pretty good tho ngl

[young swan]

the last 3 bosses were utter dogshit

[clever path]

Ulduar is my favorite raid but not because I think it’s the best, I just really love it’s theming

[fair star]

Dazaralor?

[dense elbow]

WoW does raiding right, that is for sure

[young swan]

solid

[fair star]

Uldir

[clever path]

Gross

[young swan]

i didnt play uldir because the game was just so bad

[clever path]

Get that away from me uldir was horrible

[young swan]

3 trait azerite

[dense elbow]

So... I am going to get a lot of hate here... but CoS was good.

[young swan]

was so awful

[covert blaze]

Xan you're getting trolled

[summer quail]

i did, that's how i quit the game until nyalotha xD

[young swan]

i dont care i like to be upset

[summer quail]

holy moly start of bfa was the worst

[dense elbow]

Xan is a changed man after Arms went poopoo

[fair star]

U sound like a guildy of mine

[young swan]

i dont like arms

[covert blaze]

Fair

[dense elbow]

See?

Changed

[fair star]

Said he played druid cuz he liked playing boring specs

[clever path]

This I played uldir mythic hated the expansion so much I took a break till nya and hated it even more lol

[warm crag]

xan is a noober!!!!

[young swan]

i have never liked arms (except legion arms that shit was goated)

[dense elbow]

I miss old Xan

[clever path]

Legion arms was so good

[young swan]

im going to put u in time out

[left perch]

Wtf

[fair star]

I miss bfa

[clever path]

Bring back 10 seconds of crits

[zealous steppe]

Modern JJK will do that to you...

[young swan]

jjk is goated wdym

[covert blaze]

Agree

[young swan]

i stay up every tuesday for raw leaks :3

[warm crag]

cat facing irl

[zealous steppe]

Oh I agree it is GOATED

It's just been a rollercoaster for like a year now lmao

[young swan]

yeah

[covert blaze]

Damn that's insane out of context

[dense elbow]

[young swan]

oh well

sometimes u get em and sometimes u get got

[left perch]

I kind got meh on JJK start of season, picked it back up recently and uh, yea wow

[dense elbow]

Time to roll it back lads, before the mods come with the hammer

we lost too many already

[young swan]

honestly if it didnt start so late it wouldve won so many awards this year

basically makes it a shoe in for 2024

[left perch]

yea it really picking up nice, but way too late

[covert blaze]

Manga goes dummy hard, next season will be actually insane

[young swan]

culling games

[left perch]

My body is ready

[young swan]

next season will legitimately break streaming services several times

thats not even hyperboly

[left perch]

as if Crunchyroll works at all already

[covert blaze]

Increased probability

[young swan]

4 minutes and 11 seconds

[fair star]

Also

[covert blaze]

I can't wait man holy shit

[fair star]

I saw msg earlier

[zealous steppe]

Frieren is too strong. Also Bleach Cour 2 lots of good competition this year

[fair star]

Why do bosses parry anyway

Like

[young swan]

yeah but i dont think jjk shibuya incident was even included

[fair star]

Thst ms couldve been 300k

[young swan]

just hidden inventory/premature death

[zealous steppe]

ah damn too recent? Boo

[young swan]

yeah

will be next year

[covert blaze]

Yeah I think it will change anime forever in some way or another, literally

[young swan]

i mean its still gonna have to compete with tower of god s2, bleach cour 3

cant remember everything thats slated for next year

but it still has heavy competition

[young swan]

yeah, that fight is gonna do some WORK on the industry

i hope u know what im talking about

[young swan]

in an interview, morgan day said: it provided texture

[fair star]

...

[young swan]

that said, it wasnt a question that had been prepared for beforehand so maybe he lacked the full picture

but its pretty well agreed upon, at least among melee players, that shit needs to be gone

[covert blaze]

I think it's there to make "melee harder"

[young swan]

melee already harder than ranged

i dont get it

[covert blaze]

But it's outdated to the difficulty and design standards that we have today

[summer quail]

yes, all arms players love when the boss turns around for a second and colossus smash gets parried. love it

[proud crown]

just add expertise as a tertiary

[warm crag]

it can stay if they add spellblock if the boss is facing the spellcaster

[young swan]

agreed!

or spell resist

or spell miss

any!

[warm crag]

all of it at once

[young swan]

i hate ranged players

[gilded pawn]

dont forget half the melee classes can cheat parries

DH beams, enh shaman spells, ret's ranged spells for example

those just straight up cheat parries

[desert field]

2023, wars still slappin boss buttcheeks

[fair star]

Its not s good game design

Like that makes arms even more rng

[red dirge]

[fair star]

Either ur gonna oarry an auto attack or parry a fully buffed crit MS

[frozen lake]

Melee is incredibly harder

[fair star]

Parry

Sometimes im having a bad day and die to stuff in dungeons

And ranged players say how do u die

[covert blaze]

Agree, just assuming what blizz thought process is/was

[fair star]

Guildies

Id like to see them play melee

[red dirge]

Tanking high diffuclty things are crazy hard

[meager gyro]

I think he and I agree, it's a waste of time to do the alts. I've been doing 5 warriors and I don't want to anymore, pugs are too annoying

[fair star]

Even tho with hour easy gearing has become

With how*

I still dont like gearing alts

Rather just push 1 mIn

Main

I dont play for the rotation

[dusky pulsar]

I got the axe today doing LFR then normal

just do every difficulty guys

it's the way

[proud crown]

[sly sky]

should I trust icyveins or wowhead guide? or something else?

[covert blaze]

Written by the same person

[snow edge]

Ye it's Archi on both, so

Fine to trust

[sly sky]

but they list different stat prio and different bis gear :thonk: does icyveins just not look at tier?

[meager void]

S I M

[sly sky]

mm looks like overall bis list on icyveins is just raid bis list again

yeah, i can sim every piece but would be nice to know the overall stat prio aswell

[meager void]

no such thing exists

[sly sky]

icyveins lists vers as last and wowhead says mastery=vers

[meager void]

depending on you curent gear and available options, you could favor mastery vers or even haste

[snow edge]

If you want to know what gear to shoot for roughly, just run a droptimizer on raidbots

[sly sky]

yeah ok thanks for the no help, I know.

[meager void]

yeah, droptimize before raid and use that to roll on gear

[snow edge]

Can't help people that don't want to be helped, you're welcome my dude

[meager void]

telling you anything else would be a lie

[snow edge]

All the best

[meager void]

i mean, there's even a big yellow sign in raidbots saying this

[snow edge]

The only reason you'd want pre-determined stat priorities is so you can either a) know what gear to aim for, or b) roughly know what gear you should be equipping out of the items you have; both answers you can get from raidbots with much more clarity

[meager void]

are these the type of people that then go on to say "X class discord sucks"?

[summer quail]

yes

[fallen glacier]

god this discord sucks

[rotund steppe]

yeah

[red dirge]

do yall think crafting elemental laria with 6 gems bad?

[spare otter]

How do logs work?

[red dirge]

5*

[spare otter]

I'm confused

I was first DPS in details

But in logs I was 5th

[meager void]

blame Aug

[spare otter]

Ahhh ofc

[fair star]

Why is vers good for fury anyway

[meager void]

makes your damage more versatile

[mint vector]

guys

i ve just got legendary bad luck token from smolderon hc

is it possible?

[meager void]

lesser yes

greater no

[covert blaze]

I don't like the answer to my question you guys aren't helpful

[mint vector]

rightttt

[wild mural]

tomorrow

[hot crescent]

Hey guys, looking for a solid M+ talent build for having both 2-sets

I glanced at the pins, didnt see anything recent

[clever belfry]

acquire god

[covert blaze]

You got leggo? Poggers

[wild mural]

this week for sure

[wild mural]

I will

[clever belfry]

doubt

[warm crag]

andus

[wild mural]

yeah you're right

furries dont acquire god

[covert blaze]

True

[clever belfry]

suh

[warm crag]

what if red man got augury today

[clever belfry]

as i said in raid chat

i wouldve logged off

[warm crag]

real

[clever belfry]

it was not a joke

[warm crag]

i think 3 of us wouldve

[clever belfry]

German math nerds

logging off

[wild mural]

God had to nerf furries cause he feared our potential

[fallen glacier]

The yiff shall inherit the earth

[wild mural]

Precisely

[clever belfry]

happy idk what that is

[wild mural]

Lemme educate ya real quick

Actually no I’ll let you learn that forbidden knowledge for yourself

[clever belfry]

ok i will stay unaware

[jovial ravine]

what sims higher Allied + 1 Shadowflame or x2 Shadowflame

[clever belfry]

depends on the rest of your gear
2x sf likely sims tjny bit ahead, but it doesn't scale to multi targst at all

id defo craft vers bracers

[wild mural]

The one that you put into raidbots.com and has a higher number

[wild mural]

Your loss

[clever belfry]

my dub

[fallen glacier]

the puncline is pornographuy

[warm crag]

p much always sims higher

but u should just go versa bracers

blue silken lining lore

[clever belfry]

swag told me to go bsl

[warm crag]

winner

[clever belfry]

But i disobeyed the hundemensch

[frail prism]

Grats. Those quests were such a time sink. But my DPS rose like 7-10% with the leggo so def worth it.

[young swan]

mastery >= vers >= haste > crit

[sudden tusk]

debating replacing igira ring

for crafted for more mastery + well fed

[young swan]

prob fine in the short term

[sudden tusk]

my mastery is down bad rn

need myth track boots to catalyze

[young swan]

i have quite a bit too much haste

[sudden tusk]

most of it is my neck rn

[young swan]

unbuffed

[young swan]

kinda funky

[sudden tusk]

my neck is to juiced

[noble elm]

Is that neck decent for us?

[modest condor]

yeah

big vers

[noble elm]

The proc feels kinda worthless tho

Stats are tasty

[modest condor]

plenty of nature damage around

[slim coral]

Crit gained me 8k dps https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ticyknsUukWGRPoiq9Box3

Huge

[noble elm]

Imagine having signet brand

[pearl cradle]

noob question guys so i just got the gnarlroot weapon mythic from the vault can i still roll on the gnarlroot weapon when it drops in the raid?

[sudden tusk]

if you dont take it ya

[pearl cradle]

im thinking of just equipping two lol

its not unique equipped yeah?

[young swan]

its not unique equipped

[summer quail]

how many sockets did he give you?

[pearl cradle]

so can i still roll need on it?

[young swan]

not sure

[pearl cradle]

even though i got one

[sudden tusk]

oh actually

i can gain some big mastery

if i get legs off gnarl

and cata my helm for 4p instead

and drop mastery on top of that

[young swan]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/retMAiEvmSmh9eL12VsqUv

and people think im lame for complaining about having abd trinkets

[slim coral]

You're using the lego that's cheating

[vernal night]

i just finished my lego

[young swan]

IM AN ITEM LEVEL UP WITH LEGO AND ONLY SIM 1K MORE

[willow violet]

is prot or fury mage tower easier?

[slim coral]

Fake sim alert

Banned

[young swan]

lego dogshit

real lego is augury

[slim coral]

I don't even have the mythic brand yet

and that's another 8k for me

and mythic augury is huge too

I need it!

[clever path]

What stats does warrior fury have for m+

[slim coral]

Avoidance

[young swan]

the same as for ST

[clever path]

-.-1

[slim coral]

Avoidance is bis

but it's verse mastery

[sudden tusk]

i need the gnarl legs

with runnig the vers neck

i think i turbo the ignara ring

and go crafted

then 4p with gnal legs for master and - haste

[warm crag]

corrupted rage sim

????

[young swan]

is that not tepid vers?

should be

one sec

[warm crag]

ye you only have 400 dps on my corrupted rage sim

[young swan]

should be higher with tepid vers

cause that procs my mirror for vers

and i get 60% vers

its poggers

literally unkillable during cds

[warm crag]

real

[young swan]

ok its 2k wrose im killing myself

[slim coral]

I'm almost free

From tindral

It's impossible to find push groups

[clever path]

do u actually use earthen writ? lmao

[covert blaze]

[unreal cape]

what did you guys craft with your new spark this week? not sure what i'd craft

[warm crag]

Nothing

[slim coral]

yeah

[young swan]

sims best

big mastery proc fuck good

[astral path]

Allied wrists

[clever path]

ive been using wafting rn

[covert blaze]

Second ring

[clever path]

hmm

ill try it

[slim coral]

I cannot find a push group for keys

no one wants a warrior

[warm crag]

actually ye second ring could be big

[unreal cape]

i crafted that weeks ago 😄

[covert blaze]

What you pushing bud

[unreal cape]

second ring huh...

[slim coral]

26s

but all pug groups are so bad

[unreal cape]

what about a slot where i dont have myth track yet? that would be belt for me

[warm crag]

get pushed out of the guild

[slim coral]

I wish I could, sadly I'm too good

[covert blaze]

Yeah that's pretty high
Only lincc has the mental fortitude for that

[warm crag]

@young swan can you enchant the legendary with the expensive enchant though it just looks wrong

[young swan]

no

[warm crag]

pretty please

[young swan]

no

[warm crag]

you got me

[young swan]

i do not have gold

cant afford

gg

[warm crag]

same

gg

[young swan]

should have gold soon

(lying for fun)

[warm crag]

gbank will cover legendary... for sure ..

[young swan]

(im 1mil in debt)

[warm crag]

wtf did u do

[young swan]

gajeel bought me 2 months gametime and gave me lego mats

[covert blaze]

Me when ocd

[warm crag]

based

[covert blaze]

Damn I wish was my sugar daddy too

[slim coral]

The lego gives me 12k dps

I need dat

[warm crag]

do you not have a weapon equipped or

[sudden tusk]

@hallow sphinx wow what a cutie pie 💋

[slim coral]

I do

[clever path]

do u guys run earthen writ even in like a 20 M+?

or is it just a parse/sim thging

[sudden tusk]

i run double wafting

[clever path]

for ST raid

[hallow sphinx]

🫶

[tidal plinth]

Managed to get a +7% DPS on the dungeon slice sims with my custom APLs, do you guys manage to do better than that ? Glad to take any advice

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kCtAU1jJ3iaFXiLpnqmDqM
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7oshC5CqvREWLZ9UxsWkxR

[lapis lion]

havent tried prots but fury's is literally free so i cant imagine anything being easier

[young swan]

all tank challenges are the same

its pretty easy for prot but i think agata is better

[warm crag]

@young swan do i play ww or execute on tindral

[hallow sphinx]

[young swan]

ww

[warm crag]

ok will play it tmrw

[slim coral]

WW

How else would you cleave

Come on spongie

[young swan]

most of our cleave damage is incidental

on that fight

so you could make an arguement for execute stuff

[idle osprey]

Like my social interactiona

[young swan]

its just not a good argument

[warm crag]

i mean it was used in rwf

but its not doing it for me

[slim coral]

Well that's totally diff

if I knew my raid was that good

I would go full ST too

[hasty path]

well boys, my guild got our first legendary drop

[warm crag]

holy shit nish is 4001 io now

what the fuck

[hasty path]

ive been 4001 keep up chit

[mossy fox]

his s2 4001 score carried over to s3

literally unbeatable

[hasty path]

ya they saw me and were like

[warm crag]

cant win

[hasty path]

he's good enough for that to be his baseline

[warm crag]

@mossy fox are u playing ww or exe

[mossy fox]

ive been doing exe but considering ww cause exe doesnt rly add much st

most of the aoe dmg you do would just be bursty of/roar stuff anyway

prolly very small diff either way

[edgy widget]

for what fight?

Exe talents are only like 2% in pure ST, you'll almost always make up more than that with raw cleave

[slim coral]

Tindral

I think WW is the obvious answer

[covert blaze]

Doesnt that depend entirely on comp kinda

[slim coral]

but they saw RWF do it so it's good

[covert blaze]

If you have 2 locks deleting roots for example

[warm crag]

i mean most roots are solved by feathers or aligning cds anyways

[slim coral]

Bro what

Those roots dont even matter

You need WW for the roots you need to break your raid out of

[warm crag]

is there even one that is time sensitive

[slim coral]

2nd and 3rd platform you have to giga pump the roots

[slim coral]

all

[edgy widget]

unless roots are getting absolutely annhilated within seconds, yes

[slim coral]

Have you watched the fight at all

[edgy widget]

honestly I'd play TR for it too

[warm crag]

i have played most of it

[edgy widget]

at least until you get very used to the encounter timing

[slim coral]

all of them you need to break your raid out asap

[warm crag]

yeah either cds align or feathers detonate them all

lemme rewatch the fight i kinda play it by muscle memory at this point

[slim coral]

I'm pretty sure there is a case in every raid outside maybe top 20 where you'll want the dps for roots

[warm crag]

p2 only has one feather set that isnt detonated by feathers and its kinda whatever you have ages to break that free

p3 has one spciy set and whatever happens after 4th feathers i havent seen that yet

idk with enchant and higher ilvls and better itemization i think theres a bigger case for execute builds but i will probs go ww cause i like bigger numbers

[mossy fox]

our roots are definitely getting annihilated

[meager void]

is M Larry tech to sends CDs on 1st add spawn?

[mossy fox]

2 demos are doing most of it

[young swan]

ye

u can reck + OF on pull

they dont live long enough for 2 OF dots

[meager void]

groovy, working on it thx Xan

[young swan]

also check lorrgs.io

very valuable

[proper peak]

I just got a hero track prism of inner calm from timewalking, did not realize ssc items could drop from the box

[gray nexus]

gg

[restive peak]

I'm onto 28s this week bae I hate myself smile

Tindral under 10% 6 times surely he dies soon

[slim coral]

Bro pugging as a warrior is miserable

just sitting for an hour applying to keys

[silent burrow]

anybody experienced OF not breaking roots on tindral?

[covert blaze]

Lmao you're nuts

[covert blaze]

I heard if you have natty avatar running, OF doesn't break

Might be wrong tho

@modest condor

[modest condor]

you're not wrong

[young swan]

yeah either cancelaura or re-jig cd's

[silent burrow]

ohhhhh

fuck

[young swan]

@silent burrow just go look gajeel cd's on lorrgs

[silent burrow]

okay I will thank you

[gilded pawn]

literally just press the exact buttons hes pressing

cant parse bad

[silent burrow]

lol

[covert blaze]

🫃

[thorny peak]

rngesus has abandoned me lost augury to priest

[young swan]

yeah u should prob quit or something idk

[spare otter]

i hate augs

i hate augs

[thorny peak]

nah but damn my rolls just suck

[compact knot]

is wanting pi at 6 mins with a assassination rogue in the raid troll or not (as fury)

[slim coral]

Neve rhad the issue

#Savewarrior

[slim coral]

I don't think blizz has any clue how to fix warrior

[sullen dove]

[tidal kindle]

@young swan

[compact knot]

gz

[sullen dove]

fricc you gfury

but gratz

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/lwts-lets-go-gif-25090667

[tawdry lily]

thats my king

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gif-drake-gif-26307972

[thorny peak]

nice

[slim coral]

Easy 20k dps gain

[covert blaze]

:

[hallow sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drift-catdrift-gif-16095187850320735968

[sullen dove]

[onyx linden]

show quest or didnt happen

[spare otter]

wait aug dmg isnt considered for parses?

[onyx linden]

still dont believe you

[covert blaze]

yeah for the aug

[tidal kindle]

🏖️

[spare otter]

no for me?

[sullen dove]

aug attribution def still giga fukt up

[silent burrow]

idk when to squeeze in lego with these cd's lol

[spare otter]

same fight

[slim coral]

Aug balance is fucked up

[spare otter]

so any augmented damage you receive is never considered for parses then?

[left perch]

We actually don’t know

some isn’t, some is

[sullen dove]

prolly at least some of it is

[spare otter]

what in the fuck

[sullen dove]

and any amount is still bad

other classes might be reversed

[left perch]

Aug is good for the game (Aug main now)

[sullen dove]

like idk my mage complains alot about it yknow prescience the 3% crit or whatever shit, what happens when the mage is in combust with 100% critrate and the aug still takes 3% of damage you deal during that window

even tho pres added nothing

[left perch]

103% crit rate

[sullen dove]

multistrike

imo mage just cancelauras prescience into combust

prolly fixes most of that

[left perch]

thing is

prescience is a damage

[restive peak]

🙂

[left perch]

but also marks you for ebon might

[restive peak]

@young swan prog check bae

[sullen dove]

yea once you get the ebon might

clear it

[restive peak]

You guys raidin?

[left perch]

bet your mage doesn’t hate 1.2k intellect during combust

oh wait shift sands too what’s vers damoog we don’t know

[sullen dove]

wouldnt pres steal from us the same way during cds

100% critrate bbs

cringe

time to cancelaura

[left perch]

Korean guy proved it last tier

just cancel and still parse

[sullen dove]

cowfarmers

[left perch]

Aug damage down? Aug buffs

[sullen dove]

tbh aside from whatever they were doing this season, i assumed the rest of their ebon might/shifting sands buffs were pretty fine

cuz i would think its a lot easier to count the value a 1 dimensional stat like strength and verse give to you

in terms of damage

[left perch]

yea I think it’s decent overall. Just sucks you can’t know how you’re doing or what gear to sim

[sullen dove]

but crit can mean a lot more things wonky

[young swan]

working on consistency for p3

[sullen dove]

also why they give up on attributing pi to a priest cuz who the fuck knows how you calculate the effect of 15% haste on some classes like uhdk and mage and shit

[young swan]

first set p1

[left perch]

Oh are they reattributing that? Or tried?

[silent burrow]

Yeah I guess I can do that

[sullen dove]

no idk if they ever tried

but i think thats the main reason they never have

[silent burrow]

but then what's the point of ripping OF so early

[sullen dove]

since aug is so much easier to do

[left perch]

Would be hilarious if we got all petty about buffs

[silent burrow]

I have been charge, bt, charge bt, lego, ramp, of

[young swan]

just OF -> lego immediately

[silent burrow]

lego is dumb lol

[young swan]

and then ive just been using it first set p2 as well

[left perch]

“Warrior gave you rallying cry, you lived instead of dying you did 1 million damage”

[restive peak]

We keep gettin sub 10 and people panic man, it suuuucks

We got this for sure though

[young swan]

although im shuffling cd's in p2 to have more damage for p3 now

we havent seen lower than like 30%? just working on getting through the shield and shit smoothly

[restive peak]

I'm doin Reck OF pull, avat/roar 1st roots, then sending all on shield etc

[young swan]

surprised ur sending cds on first set

its dragon set

[restive peak]

I know but breaks root, aligns w OF again on 2nd set

And then all up at shield

Seems to be workin

#5/6 in our P3s

[young swan]

when are u lusting?

[restive peak]

1st shield

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/mmhmm-mmhmm-meme-mmhmm-gif-mmhmm-twitch-gif-23291803

[restive peak]

I swapped to DB/wrecking throw tn, helping a ton for prio dmg

[young swan]

yeah im sending second roots cause lust 1st shield just means we dont need shield damage at all

no reason to have cd's when we're overkilling that much

ive been doing OF + lego first set, roar + ava second, dragon + OF third, reck + OF shield

and then recently ive been sending ava + roar first roots of p2 just to have full cd's up for p3 shield

cause its been tight for us

[sudden tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898695696482305/1161170594130317455/gun-to-head-nodding.gif?ex=65375363&is=6524de63&hm=801d77b654668a14cb515e4ab99d11021c1821ff68b70887485fe3490066cf57&

[silent burrow]

we're just getting to p2

[restive peak]

True I was holding ava for shield break but dmg was very similar

P3 shield isn't bad

[grand crypt]

How much haste should fury have?

[compact knot]

it changes based on gear

at 484 26% seems to be a good spot

if your 484

ofc

[potent olive]

if you avatar and then immediately odyns fury after does any of the odyns fury damage get eaten

like will the avatar cast of odyns fury just get overwritten or somethin

[slim coral]

we lust mid p2

[olive wraith]

First. Always use OF first. Second. Yes the bleed gets overwritten and you lose uptime on dancing blades as well

[grand crypt]

thanks

[olive wraith]

As much as sims tell you

[meager void]

Sim. Its always sim. My sim at 484 is 25% haste.

[slim coral]

isn't that a dragon set though

[compact knot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/M2fGvaxygVD9dzhW#fight=38&type=damage-done

BIG FIRST KILL

massive 99 cutie

[young swan]

did u read everything i said

[young swan]

gz!

[summer quail]

[slim coral]

[compact knot]

[sullen dove]

why is this mf's augury 12% of his dmg

500% fire damage modifiers surely

[fresh heart]

[small dome]

yo can warriors do incorpeals at all?

[compact knot]

yeah

[sullen dove]

you can shattering every 3 minutes

(no)

[small dome]

ok so all i can do is intterupt if needed

[sullen dove]

yea i mean if you have both stormbolt and fear which i tend to

can kinda fully handle one on your own just need to use both cds which is annoying

[small dome]

does that lock them up tho?

[compact knot]

take menance (dont)

[sullen dove]

let cast a little bit, stormbolt, once free let cast a little more

target it then fear

and it shouldnt cast

fear has to be targetted

[graceful rapids]

Is it cause they crit so much?

[hallow sphinx]

no 🙂

[young swan]

heck

[hallow sphinx]

stick haver 😛

[sullen dove]

next week for sure

[sinful spoke]

a dh in my guild augury is his top dmg

[spare otter]

Personally I don't think trinkets should do that much dmg

But that's just me

[olive wraith]

I take menace sometimes. It’s not too bad

[fluid pollen]

Anyone get the axe yet? If so, how’s it fit into the rotation? Messing up OF

[final birch]

yeah but then you dont have anything for the mobs

it's a shit option, but an option

[subtle lagoon]

read pins

[slim coral]

warriors buffs this week surely?

[static nest]

we should be at 3 sparks + 1 frag this reset yeah?

as in current, not in a week

[sullen dove]

4 sparks

right now

[static nest]

wait y sry xd

5am brainrot

ty guess im just unlucky

[sullen dove]

did u do weekly rep

and the lady moonberry quest

[static nest]

y

• hc

• 4 keys already

missing 1 frag

[sullen dove]

moar content den ig

[rotund steppe]

no axe this week either

[ornate cave]

On use is garbage, dot is nice in overalls for keys +raw iL weap dam.

[gilded pawn]

use it once cds are over

[ornate cave]

I use it to root myself for knockback mechs.

[gritty junco]

good afternoon friends. Just started playing my WAR again this patch and have collected a couple Tier Pieces. Is it best to wait for S3 4pc? Or should I go 2pc//2pc and switch to the new talent tree?

[sudden tusk]

4p 2p 2p sucks

[slim coral]

sucks the devs can't fix us

[little quail]

is it worth to queue raidfinder for leggy? i go HC next days but i'm greedy😬

[sullen dove]

not.. likely

it wont kill your chance on heroic or anything but just extra effort for no real reason unless u just want gamba dopamine of incredibly small chance

[subtle lagoon]

I wonder if it's worth just doing hc fyrakk or full clearing heroic for any lesser embers first

[little quail]

okay thanks 🙂

[sullen dove]

uh i mean i dont remember the specifics but i believe there is some internal counter that goes up when you get a lesser ember

so its probably decently likely it'll improve your chances for that week

but even if it doesnt should still clear heroic for lesser ember at the least for it def stacking on later weeks

so like, clear before fyrakk if you can optimally, but if you dont prolly not complete end of the world just try to do it later during the week

[spiral oasis]

wtf

[slim coral]

avg pug expierence

[spiral oasis]

I've 3chested 20s for the keys I'm not getting invited to at 18s

[slim coral]

That's the warrior life

too mayn classes are better and offer more

[spiral oasis]

dw got invited to a +21 :)

we're all gonna make it bros.

[summer quail]

[peak halo]

4 sparks this week

[calm mantle]

God help me

[sinful spoke]

Bro leave that key and join a new one

What the tuck

[frozen mirage]

Just got back to wow. What crafted gear for Warriors should I be aiminmg for? I have the cloak with the Shadowflame embellishment (armor patch?) already, what next?

[sinful spoke]

Wrists

Allied wrists

[calm mantle]

It was last boss at 32 minutes, i just wanted my might but it didn't drop

We wiped like 4 times on last boss.

[frozen mirage]

It comes with a Vers bonus already, it's not possible to do armor patch on that one as well?

[calm mantle]

It's either allied wrist or shadwoflame.

you gotta pick one.

[frozen mirage]

I can't have both? I though i could have 2 embellishment

[calm mantle]

you can but doesn't allied wrists count as an embel?

[inland flame]

yes

you can have either allied wrists or a second shadowflame as your second embellishment

[frozen mirage]

Ah true, so I don't want 2 shadowflame and instead go with 1 allied wrist and 1 shadowflame in total?

[inland flame]

2 shadowflame is better ST but allied bracers get full value all of the time

[keen moon]

+def

[still swift]

we only survived cuz my allied bracers procced and made u take 0.3% less damage in that time span

[inland flame]

allied bracers are a personal buff, not like the chest

[cursive flame]

I have only recently returned to playing my warrior, but I feel like I am going crazy. Since when did whirlwind have a cooldown?

[inland flame]

since you took the talent that made it have one

[still swift]

talent

[inland flame]

storm of swords

[cursive flame]

I have literally been sitting here for at least 10 minutes trying to find a talent but couldnt find anything -_-

[inland flame]

.

[cursive flame]

lol thank you. sorry for the stupidness

[sinful spoke]

We get it youre a warrior

[carmine mason]

Zug zug

[inland flame]

hey its no big man people gotta learn things

[still swift]

you can type "Whirlwind" into the search bar in ur talents and it'll show u every talent modifying whirlwind in any way

[cursive flame]

Thats what I did the first time, but it was only showing me Improved Whirlwind so I think the search auto selected that as the result

[lavish badge]

Talent is called storm of swords

It’s connected to annihilator

[still swift]

it should end up like this (sry I'm on phone got no better screen but it works samey, as long as u don't click a specific one)

[lavish badge]

I’m on mobile so took me a second to realize people already said that lol

[lavish badge]

Yep

[lavish badge]

It’s weird to get used to especially in mythic plus but it basically turns out to be the same thing as before as in its every 5th global in aoe

And just used as filler if both bt and slam are on cd

[sullen dove]

the only actual thing that feels cringe is not being able to spam if when you have to go out of range of mobs

[lavish badge]

Yea

[sullen dove]

have to fill globals with bshout

and heroic throw

[still swift]

just titanic throw or

[sullen dove]

madge

[lavish badge]

I agree but can just heroic throw

Yeah

[still swift]

oh it's heroic not titanic

oop

[sullen dove]

goofy ahh

[inland flame]

Heroic Throw has a CD too reee

[sullen dove]

you pickin this one?

[still swift]

oh

it is a talent im not stupid wtf

crazy

[lavish badge]

Yea was added with prepatch

For df

[inland flame]

make Heroic Throw have no CD for dps and make it generate like 5 rage or something

I beg

I'll even take 3 rage at this point

[still swift]

yea me personally I take titanic throw for the aoe dam for sure

[sullen dove]

huge thunderclap sub talent

[lavish badge]

Kekw

[sullen dove]

thatll be mountain thane bis for sure

[still swift]

they could've just called it mounthane king

[lavish badge]

(Thunder)Fury warrior

[still swift]

sounds more epic

[lavish badge]

With our blessed blade of the wind seeker kappa

What Ilvl are you guys sitting at? Just curious on what most others are at rn

[sullen dove]

485

[inland flame]

482

[still swift]

467

[sullen dove]

surely leggo soon to go to 486

[lavish badge]

Kek

[inland flame]

yeah man leggo soon

[still swift]

our rl got it on his war alt yday

[sullen dove]

you mean his main now

right

[lavish badge]

I’m surprised more people haven’t gotten it yet honestly

[still swift]

he's a healer so we'll see what happens

[lavish badge]

I thought BLP was gonna be op

[sullen dove]

💀

idk i mean it seems more common than evoker one

[lavish badge]

Holy not the healer getting it

[sullen dove]

since their blp existed at least

[inland flame]

i think people are expecting too much out of blp too soon, not like 5 weeks of clears will guarantee it

[lavish badge]

Yeah does seem more common

[still swift]

we need more melee for tindral I think anyway unless we fixed that by now so

might be he swaps

[lavish badge]

Considering how unlucky I am in the past, since I got it last Tuesday I thought that it had to be more common

I guess I just got lucky

[still swift]

wish I didn't just get normal every week

[lavish badge]

You not doing heroic?

[still swift]

I might be able to sneak in next reset cuz my main doesn't need items anymore

[lavish badge]

That probably makes a difference in your BLP tbh

[still swift]

but idk yet

467 not a lot of chances to get into heroic

[inland flame]

if they're a guildless hobo like me AOTC can take some luck and time sometimes

[still swift]

even with w1 curve

[lavish badge]

Not at this point unfortunately

[sullen dove]

does your guild just... not kill heroic or sum

[lavish badge]

Could be higher just by doing m+ though

[still swift]

we do but as said, I went with my main until this week

[sullen dove]

tbh unless u actually need main loot easy get carried on warrior anglege

[still swift]

yea I had 4.7k dps in upgrades left

that's fixed now tho

[sullen dove]

[still swift]

So next reset I try...

[sullen dove]

surely

next reset is the time

[still swift]

maybe boost this week

[lavish badge]

[still swift]

who knows

[lavish badge]

I guess my item level is unusually high then I really thought more people were higher

[iron coyote]

Can anyone here confirm that I only need to do heroic each week? I will not get a greater if I do normal after?

[inland flame]

firemourne any day reset now guys

you will not

[still swift]

yes the heroic one includes lower diffies

[iron coyote]

Thank you!

[lavish badge]

They said in the post that your luck is included with precious difficulties

However

I don’t know if that includes the BLP drops

[still swift]

having 2/3 chances feels cooler than 1 but I don't trust in it

[lavish badge]

So I would still recommend clearing all difficulties each week for the tokens

Just if you have the time of course.

[iron coyote]

Ok

[inland flame]

Lessers are heroic and myth only, no?

[still swift]

I'd assume the tokens add a specific amount and if a higher one is already active the lower one doesn't exist

[snow edge]

That's what they've indicated

Highest difficulty accounts for all lower difficulties

[lavish badge]

I thought they were incremental unlocked percentages

[still swift]

🤓 incremental

sry

[lavish badge]

Like your chance of it dropping as personal loot increases similar to how raid exotics work in destiny 2 if you do the challenge modes

Sorry to make a comparison to such a shit game but case made

[still swift]

ok now how many people play d2 here to just understand

[lavish badge]

That’s a good question

All loot drop chances are 50/50 anyway let’s be real

You rather get it or you don’t

[still swift]

unless it's signet when you're next in priority

[lavish badge]

Imagine not getting it out of the heroic weekly chest for 4 mythic dungeons

[still swift]

not mythic don't care

hehe

[lavish badge]

Bro rng is cringe I hate to hear when people have chased items for 10 months of a patch

[calm mantle]

Another ocean still no might

This trinkets forever eluding me

[lavish badge]

Bring back tokens of dinar

[inland flame]

They are for S4

[still swift]

we have a guy in guild who still to this day clears aberrus and still doesn't have evoker leggo

[spiral night]

next season just you wait

[lavish badge]

Is it even good for any of their specs still

[inland flame]

They already said that they are bringing dinar back but that they might look at making it less generous that SL dinar was.

[still swift]

it's equal to a myth track weapon

like 483+ ish

I think

[subtle lagoon]

[inland flame]

Uh isn't it like 460ish

Or did they buff the ilvl

[lavish badge]

It’s 457

[still swift]

they didn't buff ilvl but the effect is just rly good

[lavish badge]

Always has been

[inland flame]

Ah I see what they meant nvm

I could see it still being bis of Dev and Pre but Aug has to take the ilvl on a weapon right?

Still being good*

[still swift]

if anything it's other way around cuz aug I is the big buffer while dev/pres rely on the higher stats for personal dps I feel

[inland flame]

I mean Ebon Might is based on your intellect and weapons have a huge portion of your int budget

I could see Pre and Dev giving up throughput if it made it better enough for group members, but giving up int also makes your group members weaker as Aug.

[still swift]

idk I forgor but sael said it so I can probably find the text again brb

[inland flame]

As Aug? Super-possible, just seems counterintuitive I guess.

[still swift]

ye snaildur is the aug tc and smartbrain simmer

and he cooks a lot of things with Sims that can be even minor gains so I trust

[sage shadow]

Do we sim for single target only and just go off of that for keys? Or do we throw in 5 Patchwerks too

[slim coral]

got the weapon from smolderon

[toxic grove]

I think mountain thane is giga for pvp

[subtle lagoon]

Slayer sounds cooler than mountain thane, I'd like to see that tree

[toxic grove]

Yeah hopefully SMF

[subtle lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-weird-gif-22063802

[toxic grove]

[slim coral]

can't wait for it to be a full dps tree

and still lose to aug

pog

[toxic grove]

they should change avatar animation to a floating electric form for mountain thane

that would be so insanely cool

[slim coral]

they should make it so we turn fat

like w3

we should turn into a fat small man

[spiral oasis]

We timed it with like 20 seconds left

I hate tyrannical everbloom

[eternal sundial]

I like it

Fire boss on fury

[spiral oasis]

I hate that got damn mage!!

Idk it wasn't that bad. Fury is so much more tanky than arms its silly.

Probably would have been easier with a better comp and tank.

Only did like 225k tho :/ still learning fury

[storm rune]

Once you get the cadence of filling in the GCDs until you can rampage again fury just feels so fluid

[eternal sundial]

Downtime is fake if you have wft

[eternal sundial]

Given the slow timer you probably wiped which is bad for dam

[spiral oasis]

We wiped on a pack of mobs in the mage area and our shaman took an impossible amount of time to hex the incorp

I wish i could deal with the affix cuz I'd be all over it but yknow warrior

[eternal sundial]

Shatter it ezpz

[spiral oasis]

So true

[storm rune]

If only it were true

[eternal sundial]

I have a dead spot like once a boss with wft

[storm rune]

I'd say it happens every minute or so, get greedy trying to use WW over slam, then you randomly have everything on CD with 35 rage to your name

[spiral oasis]

My groups never have windfury so I feel like a damned fool

Time to reroll DH I think

[eternal sundial]

Wdym get greedy with ww over slam

[storm rune]

ww not wft lol

[eternal sundial]

So ur telling me playing the rotation wrong has negative impacts on your rotation?

[storm rune]

fucking wild right

[eternal sundial]

Well easy way to fix downtime is to just play correctly xd

[storm rune]

Easier said than done

[eternal sundial]

Practice practice practice

[spiral oasis]

Why you prio ww in st..

[summer quail]

you don't

[spiral oasis]

Das what I'm sayin

[storm rune]

It's pushing a series of 5 buttons regularly in the correct order every .8 seconds for 8 minutes straight that tends to lead to inoptimal prioritization

[pearl cradle]

yo guys is heroic tomb of sargeras soloable ?

[jagged flicker]

yes

[pearl cradle]

i dont know about scaling and stuff

thank you so much i assume night hold mythic too?

[jagged flicker]

For sure ye

[pearl cradle]

nice nice

[jagged flicker]

Even antorus, just bfa is annyoing

[proud crown]

should be able to solo some mythic bfa raids

[jagged flicker]

Bfa doesnt really have the scaling yet, some bosses you cant do due to mechanics

[pearl cradle]

im just interested on some transmogs im farming too tired to do m+ lol

[sand nacelle]

Nothing beats the despair when you bt>ww>bt>slam>bt then enrage drops and ramp is still not up for some reason, love it

[covert blaze]

ive soloed like 5 bosses in M eternal palace

[jagged flicker]

Yee some bosses work for sure

but dazar alor e.g. you cant solo some

[pearl cradle]

wait my friend said you cant solo heroic tomb of sargeras is he outdated lol

[deep niche]

you can solo it easy

you can solo myth tomb from end of shadowlands

your friend is liar

[pearl cradle]

oh ok lol

[plucky ice]

[covert blaze]

Yeah you could solo mythic tomb years ago

[plucky ice]

bros friend still living in 2019

[iron portal]

@soft totem

[storm rune]

Dude someone warn him about covid

[upper mica]

so inetersting augury is showing as a downgrade for me over Might and butchers block

nvm... stupidly ran 5 boss sim 😛

[south kayak]

yo

it's sso annoying to farm items and not getting drops

[slim coral]

Fury saved?

[south kayak]

fury lost

[naive swallow]

what in the f

trinket balance hello?

https://gyazo.com/7a762c97284a9193066139e92117e990

252 k dh 3 min into smolderon

[eternal sundial]

252k isnt high for the bos

Even if u proc augury in intermission

[naive swallow]

idk 252 seems alright to me , boss was 40% or so

[twilit harbor]

Double scaling on orbs

[jagged flicker]

Maybe I'm delusional, but I feel like after 3350 score you're done pugging as fury, feelsbadman

[wild mural]

I’m done at 2670 or smt

Fuck it

[subtle lagoon]

That's how it went for me last season

[hidden coral]

Just wondering, how happy are you with this season's fury style? i feel like pressing 2 buttons alternating for a pretty long period of time is a little dull

[jagged flicker]

It's like all dungeons are 25/26 and that's where it stopps I feel like
No one will accept you and you will go insane trying to permanently push your own key

[jagged flicker]

I like it

[subtle lagoon]

Peak fury design according to a lot of gamers here

[hidden coral]

I mean it feels fast but ignoring SD procs because you have an empowered BT is sad. procs being super low in priority feels like bad design

[eternal sundial]

As opposed to last season which was rb Rampage

[indigo quarry]

The endless loop of 1-2

[hidden coral]

Fair. Played shadow last season and missed that. Still, our rotation uses mostly 2 buttons without cd's mostly

[eternal sundial]

As it always does

Since season 3 sl

Rb/ramp ad nauseam

[indigo quarry]

And Arms stuck in their own loop about the same time

[storm rune]

Arms gets to be excited about casting exe tho

[hidden coral]

I love the kickstart on AoE with avatar giving us meat cleaver stacks off the gcd tho

[hidden coral]

exe currently feels amazing on arms with the empowered TC beneath it. on fury it feels like a gcd you don't want

[storm rune]

exe phase still isn't bad for us, takes the place of WW and Slam and lets you clean up the rotation a bit

But yeah you see a random exe proc pop up and half the time the timer just runs out on it lmao