fury

[wanton mirage]

It generates holy power. Still salty that hpal from guild got it. Its first guild drop

[fading sage]

For Smolderon MM if you have to chose between Signet, Rezan and Might of the Ocean all 483 ilvl what do you chose? In pure ST sim Rezan and Signet are better but on smolderon with burst phase at 1min30 Might of the Ocean could be better.
Any insight? hard to sim that one

[trim salmon]

What's the best way to farm flightstones? Wep in vault needs 800 to uprade q.q

[unreal onyx]

I‘d go for rezan + signet I think, but you‘d get a most accurate answer looking on wcl in the top 100 logs

Rn using augury+ signet on prog myself

[fading sage]

also got augury 483 but sim worse than rezan

trinket distribution on wlog

[unreal onyx]

Personally I think augury undersims from the kills I had so far

I could also just gotten lucky with procs

[edgy widget]

no

[fading sage]

augury is really strong if it procs when you got orbs

[wild mural]

Good start to the day, my PC won’t boot

[edgy widget]

its just got a lot of rng

[unreal onyx]

But on my last few hc/myth kills augury consistently does more dmg than in sims equal of the fight length

[edgy widget]

assuming you can bait orbs to align the buff properly, Signet + Might

if you have problems with doing that, then just use Rezan

[fading sage]

ty, going to try tomorrow

[edgy widget]

don't use crit flask either, there's a very high likelihood it'll fall during the damage buff

[wild mural]

Can’t wait to spend the day rebuilding my UI

[wanton mirage]

Versa flask sim better for me than 80% uptime Rage Flask

[leaden marsh]

I'm kinda unsure if I should build prep legguards or allied wrists. Dungeonslice sim tells me the legguards are the much bigger upgrade. Is there some weird interarction with ds or something?

[unreal onyx]

Why

[shell folio]

hey guys i got a question what is the best way to sim yourself for m+ atm iam simming myself 1 boss 5 min is there a better way to sim my self ?

[wild mural]

PC

[unreal onyx]

Bruh

[wanton mirage]

Rip

[wild mural]

Just woke up and it wouldn’t get out of startup repair no matter what I done

[unreal onyx]

I made a UI/WA backup just yesterday actually

Just to be safe

[wild mural]

No vault yet for me

That’s the only reason I got up this early

[unreal onyx]

So your vault will be even better

[wild mural]

Leggo in vault

[unreal onyx]

[wild mural]

Surely

[north geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1186893703512608819/image.png?ex=6594e7e6&is=658272e6&hm=851e144e59f9293451ed193686a28323f6d557cef6f2e6a6c8af9bf1cf57087e&

just take socket? I already have rezan and might of the ocean trinkets at 483

[unreal onyx]

2 wrists is a pretty big oof

[wild mural]

Necks good

[north geyser]

yeah and I already have 486 shadowflame wrists and cloak

[unreal onyx]

Socket will be your best option I would assume

Long-term

[north geyser]

and I also have tindral necklace with socket from heroic

[elfin vortex]

Yea i think I'll go with augury on hc even if i have it on normal

[unreal onyx]

Thats still like 800dps up

At least from nm to hc in my sims

[edgy widget]

keep in mind that droptimizer doesn't consider embellishments other than the built-in ones (allied wrists, legs)

e.g. you can't run Shadowflame with droptimzer

[elfin vortex]

0,3%

[edgy widget]

Legs do sim well in droptimizer because the pulls are pretty short, so it gets pretty good uptime on the effect, but it's also a tier slot and a high budget slot, which isn't the best option for a lower-ilevel craft

[unreal onyx]

I would‘ve preferred the SL version of legendaries for embellishments for that case then

Chose the embellishment and have it have 2 slots to be put in

SF is no problem, but if the legs were giga huge we‘d be missing out on that slot

[edgy widget]

I mean its 3 ilevels, not exactly a big deal

if legs were that huge, then it would be worth more than the ilevel loss

[silk wharf]

Any opinions on using a cast sequence for Reck -> avatar? not a fan of seperate binding.

[edgy widget]

but legs aren't that huge, they're actually pretty meh in most real content

[subtle lagoon]

I've been using haste legs for raids and m+

[edgy widget]

they're super trash for raid lol

some value on gnarl/igira at least, but not much

[subtle lagoon]

I know but they're the highest ilvl I got, will craft cloak this week and use a random m+ leg

[unreal onyx]

I can see them being ok for gnarl

Ye but that’s about it

[oblique trail]

@young swan it's dogshit

it's toxic waste

it's trash

radioactive fallout

danger to society

[unreal onyx]

Sockie good

[willow violet]

arent the legs bis for fury rn?

[south kayak]

It’s abysmal

[unreal onyx]

Not if he has them already

[snow edge]

Where Augury

[oblique trail]

on fyrakk when I kill him for axe

[snow edge]

Imagine - Axe and Augury, same kill

[sage ridge]

I know this was just asked but just to clarify, you don't want to use the legendary use during cds?

[oblique trail]

no

you'd use it after your opener CDs are gone basically

[sage ridge]

Does that include the time when you have buffed bloodbaths from odyn's fury?

I mean duh

It does

You always have cds when you have them

lol

[unreal onyx]

Just use it when you would have to use slam K guess

[oblique trail]

@edgy widget

1 ban

insane cringe warning

[snow edge]

Geeze man, that's wild

[sudden timber]

this worth taking or do i go socket? Got rezan and pip's on hc, i'm fully focused on m+ barely do raid

[oblique trail]

no it's dookie

A 483 Rezan should beat it on ST and on AoE there are way better alternatives

[sage ridge]

This legendary quest line is actually 0 fun

It is complete ass

Hate to complain since I got the legendary really early but damn

[young swan]

gg

[oblique trail]

I want to go back to sleep

and just not pick something

[wild mural]

vault time

[fossil hatch]

thats a sad vault xd

[oblique trail]

From what I understood using it is on the GCD

@young swan

confirm

[north geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[young swan]

it is infact on gcd

[oblique trail]

understandable

[woeful birch]

Do the BLP items i get on full HC clear on bosses count for this IDs fyrak kill or for next id?

[fossil hatch]

blp items scam anyway

[cosmic adder]

I dont think anybody actually knows but I would assume they go into effect immediately? if they work at all lol

[obtuse copper]

Fuck me, the day I miss our HC reclear I'm getting Augury from Raidfinder.. Fucking shitty RNG gods

Do u thin RF augury is better then 489 rezan / 483 Crab (Mostly doing m+ pushing)

[lavish breach]

ST sim says mirror, AOE says Mh wep - any thoughts?

[edgy widget]

All of those are farmable, so take whatever you think you will replace last

[lavish breach]

I got 424 weps and trinkets so its all an upgrade

[edgy widget]

at some point you'll be capable of farming higher keys, so pretty much all of it will be replaceable

[lavish breach]

yeah very true

[kind wind]

is it troll not to take heroic augury here?

[shrewd tangle]

Did I win?

[clever path]

what a sad vault this is

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/a8c1Ap72WhRLQXo8eC7mWZ

[shy talon]

What to do? Great vault!
Belt with socket & speed (!!) and it sims highest on everything [Patchwork 1x (5 min), 5x (1,5 min), Dungeon Slice]
I already have Fyrakk trinket (489), and then Cataclysmic Signet Brand & Mirror of Fractured Tomorrows at 483.
These trinkets already sim higher than Might. And simming AOE I also have my Mirror + Gore-Crusted 489 simming highest -- I've not seen a single warrior running that combo o_O (as I guess it becomes harder timing Mirror in real M+ then a sim).
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tYTiFSN4iPPAB4ZMiYi9wA

[fiery thorn]

why are you guys struggling to get the legendary? i have it on my evoker already

[hollow hull]

guess who needed a helmet? :>

[pulsar prawn]

Stop showing me all those sockets and tertiarys I got 0 this whole season

[silk wharf]

What is vermeidung? Avoidance?

[hollow hull]

y

[lost bison]

hop on retail

[oblique trail]

cease

perish

[still swift]

team is this trinket any good
i most likely take it cuz its im still using a 441 anvil but wondering

[oblique trail]

destroy

you as well nina

nothing personal

[still swift]

ok sry mr banezi

i go

[oblique trail]

dont

but that trinket is perma bis for m+

so yeah

[halcyon birch]

What are the ideal stats for m+?

[young swan]

a lot of mastery and a healthy sprinkling of everything else

generally more vers than haste and more haste than crit

[oblique trail]

Crit kinda owns though in AoE

[young swan]

omg who asked u bazoobi!

[halcyon birch]

So what stats should I go for if I want to craft lariat? Stats on the item and stats on the gems

[young swan]

mastery/haste or mastery/vers would be fine, should sim the gems ideally

[halcyon birch]

Cool thanks

[oblique trail]

no one actually because I'm a shit vualt haver no trinket no legendary no wf having ass

[slim pollen]

Basically legendary in vault

[sudden tusk]

signit brand is so weird man

[oblique trail]

yeah it is

because it'sn ot in my vault or character

very weird

[sudden tusk]

if the fight isnt long its basically worthless

[oblique trail]

It seems to be very RNG

before the 3-4 minute mark

[sudden tusk]

it just ramps then does giga

but your entire group has to be really good for it to be good in M+

or maybe in keys high enough on tyran

[slim coral]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tZRzqaTuHXngw63GiTwK2b

We up

[amber tinsel]

🤮

[slim coral]

THat null trinket actually is good

it sims pretty well for me

[twin glacier]

are you guys holding onr blasting right away on smolderon

[slim coral]

Send

but I would suggest watching revvez pov

to understand what you need to do in the first intermission

or watch critcake

[toxic grove]

no augury no leggo no signet no might team where are you at ? 🙋

[cosmic adder]

critcake released a smolderon guide video a few days ago. very good watch

[slim coral]

I saw archi typing for a hot minute where did he go

[cosmic adder]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k5xKi78XYy5Kd3CHVBcM4n got signet brand today even though I mainly do mythic+

[slim coral]

Nice same here!

[cosmic adder]

gaming

[slim coral]

except I'm on mythic tindral

[cosmic adder]

we just got to nymue because we had some shakey comp attendance early and we're not super pushy

[slim coral]

Nymue is fun

Enjoy it

[plucky ice]

neck is lit bros

[unreal crane]

"You will get your weapon in vault or Mythic raid within a month don't worry about it" they said. First question: so craft one weapon with versa/mastery is the way to go and hope for a second from Gnarlroot? (we're only 5 bosses in mythic and now its Christmas holidays so no more progress raiding). As for my second question: Should I take the serpent with speed for M+ (Got Rezan, Miror, Signet at hero level). The neck I simmed against the BRH one and it was less dps at the same ilvl. So, socket then?

[cosmic adder]

i've seen 10+ people with that same belt in their vault today in the same exact rightmost raid slot

im about to go full conspiracy

[unreal onyx]

I hope I get a belt today actually

Still 476 gaming

[oblique trail]

I hate vault day

[cosmic adder]

addasocket day

[unreal onyx]

Vault day is the best day of the week

[unreal onyx]

At least until you don’t even need sockets anymore

[eternal sundial]

eggshell

[unreal onyx]

I need like 2 real upgrades from vault, then it’s just 6ilvl of the same item

[proud vessel]

does it matter on what item you put the vault socket on?

[oblique trail]

I'm about to hide inside of an eggshell soon and go sleep

[proud vessel]

they all give the same right? just the socket increase

[oblique trail]

the socket is an equal gain on any item

[unreal onyx]

Preferably on sometjing you won’t replace for the rest of the season

[proud vessel]

❤️

[oblique trail]

but you just want to put it on an item you'll actually keep

[unreal onyx]

But dps is the same

[eternal sundial]

man it wants me crafting a 2nd ring zzz

[proud vessel]

yh got soulspun 489, putting it on that

[cosmic adder]

get myth helmet, make it 4/4, add socket, add enchant, never touch it again lol

[unreal onyx]

I got myth igira ring, I ain’t crafting a 2nd

[eternal sundial]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6ztYq1mr6ebEEty3R8nEeA

[oblique trail]

assuming I had WF, I'll sim 227k when I'm done crafting and upgrading

imagine

if I had good trinkets

[proud vessel]

what are your stat %'s?

[unreal onyx]

You use rage phial?

[eternal sundial]

imagine if i was capable of looting a 489 wep

[eternal sundial]

ye im alchi so it does zero dam to me

[unreal onyx]

Didnt even know that was a thing

[eternal sundial]

ye u need decayology

they also last 90 mins for me

so suuuuper cheap

[unreal onyx]

Also, the dream healpots are mega-good now, no?

I used the usual DF ones until 2 weeks ago

[eternal sundial]

ye but the decay ones also go hard

[oblique trail]

They've been good since they were added

[eternal sundial]

they just heal u for 700k or some shit

[oblique trail]

They're literally the old pots but double healing

[unreal onyx]

Ye

Is it int to pop one on smoldy when I stand in the circle in i1?

To definetly not die to the dot

[oblique trail]

You can live it by popping ER right before the ring hits you

Then as ER runs out, you pop SR

[unreal onyx]

The hot heals 1hp more than the instant

[edgy widget]

Since more of you lucky bastards have been getting the legendary axe and trying to figure out how to use it, TLDR is it doesn't really matter.

• More important than 100 DPS is using it whenever is most convenient for the encounter timing, e.g. when it won't get you killed
• In multitarget, prioritize normal cooldowns first. If there are a lot of targets (8+) use both casts of OF and Roar, followed by the axe; for smaller pulls, use cooldowns and cleave normally till buffs are gone
• The axe is on GCD, but with enough distance, abilities can be cast during the leap, so hypothetically you could drop Ravager or Heroic Throw, but there's not much useful tech for Fury

[oblique trail]

You don't need a pot to live it

[edgy widget]

same story, just had to fix a sim bug

[cosmic adder]

axe havers

[unreal onyx]

I told our healers I can live it and they really took it by heart

I ain’t getting healed at all with the dot

[edgy widget]

don't worry, I'm not one of them

[oblique trail]

Our MW pads on me she told me

when I do it

[subtle lagoon]

ER, SR, Bloodthirst, pot, you're tank

[oblique trail]

happy to help someone ig

[cosmic adder]

our DK on the bench today was pugging fyrakk while we were in mythic and he got it

[unreal onyx]

I also thought of going def stance

Havent even been doing that

[edgy widget]

one of our f&f alt run people got it the other day, nobody in the main raid

[oblique trail]

I do it to do damage, and I can live without defensive stance

[subtle lagoon]

I hate def stance cd

[oblique trail]

you wont catch me using stance there

[edgy widget]

though we have somehow managed to pick up 2 more plate classes in our weekly H Fyrakk kills 🤔

[unreal onyx]

Main tank of our 2nd raid got it

He is only offspec heal

[edgy widget]

suddenly our BM Monk wants to play his DK, go figure

[unreal onyx]

The axe is not guaranteed on a guilds ce kill, right

[edgy widget]

nope

[unreal onyx]

That was just wf

Or was it not even that

[edgy widget]

correct, it now has a chance of dropping as group loot on M

[eternal sundial]

you can check in the HTML report fwiw

[edgy widget]

but only a chance of dropping, not guaranteed

[eternal sundial]

but thats pointless looking at

[unreal onyx]

And they got hella lucky

Imagine the leggo wasn’t even a guaranteed drop on wf and they were just lucky

[sudden tusk]

really wish it would have just been a quest requring a month of heroic currency to get

[plucky ice]

nah man blizz loves the rng

[unreal onyx]

Without legendary the open world content would die within a month

[oblique trail]

would've been too easy!!

[unreal onyx]

Dinar progress

Kill hc/myth bosses for tokens

[subtle lagoon]

That is too convenient and makes too much sense, can't have that at blizzard HQ

[unreal onyx]

How will people that only do lfr/nm get it then

[sudden tusk]

each difficulty takes longer to get

lets say lfr is 1

norm is 1.5 and heroic is 2

[wild mural]

RIP Angyuwu relegated to 1/9

[unreal onyx]

Huh

[wild mural]

my rio addon is apparently very out of date

[unreal onyx]

Dw you‘ll get aotc soon

[wild mural]

AOTCeyi

[eternal sundial]

armory was down so its scuffed

[clever belfry]

armory is back

[oblique trail]

The feeling of getting every crusing depths

[clever belfry]

just need to hard rescan all chars

[eternal sundial]

have u tried the last boss reflect on an old tank

i get 1 reflect 1 to the face

[unreal onyx]

At least AOTCeyi has a gamer color for io

[subtle lagoon]

That feel when someone shadowmelds and you get the cast instead

[cosmic adder]

every time I spell reflect crushing depths someone in the key asks why their nameplate healthbar was red at the end lol

[unreal onyx]

Thats a thing?

[wild mural]

I dont have one installed? kekw

[unreal onyx]

Man im underestimating my meld I think

[subtle lagoon]

Yes happened 2 times to me

[edgy widget]

if you really wanna have fun, try reflecting Lord Waycrest 🙃

[eternal sundial]

90% of the time meld retargets stuff

[pulsar prawn]

ur one of these people that update rio via addon updaters ?

[clever belfry]

this one is really consistent if u go out of melee

just dont uh do it from within melee

you will die

[unreal onyx]

I don’t get the logic behind shadowbolt volleys

Are they not just 5 shadowbolts

[edgy widget]

it'll still go on the tank though lol

[wild mural]

No I dont even have an addon updater installed

[unreal onyx]

Why can’t i reflect them

[trail bane]

Why is it impossible for me to get into a normal Fyrakk as a 485 7/9 mythic warrior?

[wild mural]

I just reset my pc this morning

[cosmic adder]

I wont be fooled again

[clever belfry]

unless they fixed that literally this week, no

[edgy widget]

they must have

[clever belfry]

do i really have to do a wcm to check ff

[trail bane]

Are all the groups hosted by people who want the elgendary and think that more warriors reduces their chance of getting it?

[subtle lagoon]

It's aoe, not targetted, you only get damage reduction I believe

[edgy widget]

cause yeah it will (would?) apply the debuff to Lord Waycrest, and once it expires it'll spread to everyone in melee range of him

[clever belfry]

may aswell get augury on the way

[clever belfry]

oh u mean that debuff

i thought u meant tank hit

[unreal onyx]

So the cast name is misleading

[clever belfry]

yeah dont reflect the disease xd

[edgy widget]

oh no, I'm talking about the disease

[cosmic adder]

the best part was the disease circle on lord waycrest was invisible too

[clever belfry]

yeah DO NOT ref that

[edgy widget]

Yeah lmao

do it in an all melee group and just watch the chaos unfold 😆

[unreal onyx]

Does the reflected one at least do dmg?

[cosmic adder]

I almost ended a 24 with that

[subtle lagoon]

I realized I've been the cause of the circles everywhere from my reflects the 3rd time it happened lmao

[oblique trail]

I play with pugs this is NOT happening

[eternal sundial]

i asked the guy beforehand and then did it on my 448 war alt

wasnt fun

[subtle lagoon]

Legion?

[clever belfry]

we didnt have ref as dps

and the disease doesnt go on tank

thats why

(unless u spread it to them ofc)

n

[eternal sundial]

I just need to loot lego and gnarl hammer and i sim 240

[oblique trail]

And I proceed to get no reflects on 3rd boss

it's gg

shit dungeon

[eternal sundial]

Ye i HATE the rng on that one

It's a good dungeon

But whack reflect rng

[summer bobcat]

guys

what do u think about Branch of the tormented trinket

i got it from vault

[eternal sundial]

Decent but only rlly worth getting it dropped imo

Well depends on the rest of vault

[summer bobcat]

so I should take the vers mastery neck and farm the trinket from raid I guess?

[eternal sundial]

I dont know ur gear nor vault

Big ol sim yo self

[edgy widget]

it's not bad, cooldown is a little long, but it's very bursty

cooldown being long isn't a problem per se, you just have to be more thoughtful about when you use it in M+ and such

[summer bobcat]

my gear is fine i just need 1 trinket

and a neck since my neck is haste crit

[summer bobcat]

my goal is Raiding

is it good for raiding

[edgy widget]

its better than average

[eternal sundial]

It's not Signet brand tho

Revvez killed it with that item on tho so it's p good

[shell jackal]

[chrome relic]

What neck did you get from vault

[shell jackal]

i dont have myth track tier legs so i feel like that's the play. the axe is nice, tho.

i have 483/483 weapons so

[summer bobcat]

vers mastery one

[chrome relic]

Take that

[summer bobcat]

the one that most of fury players use

[unreal onyx]

Axe then ez

[chrome relic]

Yeah def take axe

[unreal onyx]

Or you wait til reclear

[shell jackal]

wanted to finish my myth track tier but yeah

reclear is tonight

[unreal onyx]

If you can get gnarl hammer or pants

[chrome relic]

Ah

I’d wait

[unreal onyx]

Or both

[shell jackal]

wait until reclear for my dopamine points?!

[chrome relic]

After gnarl go pick

Hehe

Yes brother

[unreal onyx]

I would like those boots

[lean wasp]

is it worth it to run normal and lfr before hc for the legendary drop ? i remember on one week i did normal first and got a greater ember and got another one on hc

[unreal onyx]

If I don’t get boots or smthn better in vault I might have to commic auction house on myself

[unreal onyx]

No

[iron portal]

That is one way how to burnout faster though...

[unreal onyx]

You get the tokens but they get overwritten with the higher difficulty

[shell jackal]

so 0 point? i usually run normal up to fyrakk, hc up to fyrakk, then b2b nm>hc fyrakk

[proud crown]

another week another greater flame of fyr'alath

[unreal onyx]

It ain’t butnout if I quit after

[proud crown]

[iron portal]

Yes it is

👀

[unreal onyx]

You have the same odds getting the axe if you kill hc as if you kill nm and hc

[shell jackal]

ok so full send hc fyrakk one-shot then

cheers

[unreal onyx]

Yes

Gl

[shell jackal]

ty!

looking forward to my weekly ember!

[oblique trail]

All I need now is just 20 crit..

[chrome relic]

[unreal onyx]

We are doing a optionalhc skip raid on saturday

I would bet some random will get the leggo on a rat alt

[shell jackal]

update on my vault ting fellas

[chrome relic]

We’re doing one tomorrow and I feel the same way

[shell jackal]

reclear is tomorrow instead

so

[eternal sundial]

we dont do mythic till 4/1/24 so i gotta see who raids so i can grab a vault 💀

[unreal onyx]

What

[shell jackal]

i guess i sim the vault now? or i just cop the axe. the axe has speed on it, by the way.

[chrome relic]

Alts about to feast

[unreal onyx]

Thats so long, how

[unreal onyx]

Wait til reclear would be my call

[shell jackal]

still?

[unreal onyx]

I also got the axe with speed at 489

[shell jackal]

its a big axe

[summer bobcat]

u know what, ill do a normal run then deciede about my vault

[unreal onyx]

For sure, but you might gain more dps overall with gnarl hammer mh and myth pants

[shell jackal]

its really between myth track legs, axe or the booties

yeah

ur right i just hate waiting to claim my dopamine points (and its run-your-own-key week so i kinda need that key)

[oblique trail]

I've done 3 keys in the past 2 hours and I've already used shattering throw 8 times

it's not looking good

[unreal onyx]

Is shattering throw usable vs incorp?

[oblique trail]

yes

it kills them

[unreal onyx]

Thats cool, didnt know

Might have to talent into there this week

Cant trust pugs

[oblique trail]

It's just kinda shit because it has a 3 min CD

and a cast time

[subtle raven]

poggies

[oblique trail]

so you can only use it so often

Is what I run when it's omega zero trust week

aka this week

[unreal onyx]

I still haven’t used shockwave ever yet

[oblique trail]

@young swan are we gaming?

so ready for getting brand/augury

[summer quail]

Shattering throw. Holy moly

[unreal onyx]

I ww hamstring spiteful if it comes to that

[uneven bough]

I got raid finder augury xDD

[oblique trail]

LFR Augury simmed as an 800 dps upgrade over my 483 Might

Wish I was lying

[frigid cipher]

what items have you guy sbeen crafting?

[uneven bough]

1500 for me over Spores trinket

[compact siren]

Just get one???

[uneven bough]

489 spores

[oblique trail]

I will heroic leap storm bolt thunderclap you

beware

[compact siren]

Please do not use the new opener on me

[unreal onyx]

Might sims pretty shit in ST imo

Or did you sim aoe/m+

[edgy widget]

not really, it's still one of the better trinkets

[unreal onyx]

Feels like vial in sims for me

[edgy widget]

certainly not augury/brand level, but it's still like... top 5?

[unreal onyx]

For ST?

[edgy widget]

Yep

[unreal onyx]

M+/aoe for sure

[storm rune]

That 90 sec cd is strong

[edgy widget]

Consider that all Fury's burst is on 1.5m now

[narrow narwhal]

👀

[modern shoal]

Gleaming eye better single target (2.5k) Might of the ocean better multitarget (7k). What would you do (hardest content I do is m+ 20++)

[unreal onyx]

Augury/brand/rezan/branch/serpent idol all sim better

Propably some more that I forgot

[edgy widget]

might is about equal with branch/idol

[south kayak]

What if Mountain Thane makes all abilities have a lightning animation. Like leap had a thunder around the area where you land

[edgy widget]

individually YMMV as to which one comes out ahead

but I mean we're still talking about top 5-7 trinkets, which is really not what I'd consider "sims like shit"

especially when only two of those are easily farmable and the rest are boss drops

[unreal onyx]

I haven’t compared all m+ trinkets against eachother in ST yet, I would guess purely farmable trinkets rezan + crab would be equal aswell

[urban creek]

hey guys, we have shattering throw only vs incorp?

[oblique trail]

As a permanent measure yes

otherwise you gotta CC chain with intim shout, shockwave and storm bolt

or just let other people take care of it

[urban creek]

shockwave is not working vs incorp i believe?

[modern shoal]

What you do is you roll your eyes when no one takes care of it and cover

[patent sinew]

Interupts them but they don't die and they will continue to cast until hard CC'd

[urban creek]

if storm bolt working thats cool i guess

30 sec cd on spell 4 sec cc

or am i wrong?

[patent sinew]

Na storm bolt does the same... interupts but don't kill them

[urban creek]

ah shit

[edgy widget]

crab is noticeably worse in ST, partially because it's a proc instead of a predictable on use

[unique lake]

We can only use Shattering throw to kill incorp

[patent sinew]

Warriors are the shit class for this Affix -.- so annoying literally every other class has something ... we have shattering throw on a 3 min CD lel

[urban creek]

so I have to run my keys again because warriors will not get invited, cool xD

[patent sinew]

Prettymuch yeah

[edgy widget]

which ain't worth the talent point

[urban creek]

pog, 2nd vault on my char

[patent sinew]

-.- also... semi eyeing up this trinket despite having a Mythic track boots available just because of that fat Vers stack for tanking 😂

[unique lake]

Nope not really. with most setups you'll never need a warrior running shatter

[subtle lagoon]

I'm running this for keys, seems to be pretty good, also sims the highest for me paired with might.

[unique lake]

if you need a warrior to run shatter for incorp something is going wrong with your party

[oblique trail]

Shattering is good for pugs

but in a coordinated group then yeah

better specs to take care of ti

[patent sinew]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sYJbKS1pBZNwywGiRRaoj5 < I am still so pissed i've not had a weapon in Vault or.. anywhere .. 22 runs of RISE

[subtle lagoon]

I was running two of that offhand for a while before I got a gorehowl to drop

[patent sinew]

Bleh... silly =p i've cleared Normal + heroic raids every week, 22 runs of RISE 8 runs of ToTT, no weapon xDD

Semi tempted to just craft weapon with the new spark this week

[unreal onyx]

You need 2 sparks tho

[patent sinew]

Aye, i saved the last one ... so.. have 2 now

or will have when i bother to go do something other than stare at vault XD

[subtle lagoon]

two crafted items though

[unreal onyx]

For me almost nothing is worth a craft anymore

[subtle lagoon]

Like you could get weapon from raid and m+, first boss and smoldy drops one

[unreal onyx]

Like really worth

[patent sinew]

I'ma wait and see what drops in raid tonight

[unreal onyx]

• crafted items are only 486

[subtle lagoon]

Ring with flavor pocket tho

[patent sinew]

"only" XD i'd happily be replaceing my 463 weapon
or if i get weapon elsewhere i'd be crafting ring with flavor pocket yeah ^^ cuz im still running at 450 ilvl ring >.<

[unreal onyx]

Already got that one

[subtle lagoon]

Allied wrist

[twin glacier]

anyone

[unreal onyx]

Got that too

And 476 cloak

[twin glacier]

by chance has the lariat string for simc?

[unreal onyx]

Wowhead has it

[subtle lagoon]

I guess lariat/haste legs then

[unreal onyx]

I ain’t crafting lariat or pants this season

How many aspect crests can I get per week?

Im dry

[subtle lagoon]

75 I think?

[heavy ruin]

Only possible upgrades for AoE is one of the two trinkets in 489, but I currently have Signet (heroic) and Rezan (489), not sure which one to pick

[brittle phoenix]

90

[unreal onyx]

So I can upgrade my cloak to 486 and have 2 upgrades left

[subtle lagoon]

Right 90

[unreal onyx]

Hoping for boots or belt in vault

Or hc augury

[subtle lagoon]

They're both good m+ trinkets

[unreal onyx]

If you already have hc signet that vault reeks of socket

[wild mural]

[heavy ruin]

It does

[fading sky]

hmm 489 offhand or 489 legs ( but with avoidance ) // i have legs or a heroic belt that goes to 483 has socket. or just a socket ?

[unreal onyx]

[fading sky]

i mean the thing is

sim is 0.3 % dmg from weap

[unreal onyx]

So pants would only be tert upgrade?

[fading sky]

ye

but rarer

and seeing weapon at 489 offhand isnt big anyways

[subtle lagoon]

You might get lego though

[fading sky]

not this week

😄

but ye that weapon will be replaced as soon as lego drops

[unreal onyx]

Either take weap for maybe 1 week gain

[fading sky]

exactly

[unreal onyx]

Or sockie for rest of the season upgrade

[fading sky]

i mean i know

what i should i guess

hold it for reclear tommorow

and c

[serene whale]

Hey Guys. If I have 6 sockets is it than better too craft lariat over shadowflame.

[fading sky]

Azuries do u do M+ a lot ?

[serene whale]

Yeah

[unreal onyx]

Definetly

[fading sky]

then id say Yes

[serene whale]

Thx man

[fading sky]

make lariat and smile

i think they are Pretty close in ST no ?

when u are socketed

[unreal onyx]

Fully socketed I think it’s still a lil behind but outshines in aoe

[fading sky]

but how do u have 6 sockets ?:D

[serene whale]

Thank rng god for bad vaults.

Hahah

[fading sky]

i can only count to 5 ?

[unreal onyx]

3 neck

[fading sky]

ah i dont count neck

^_^

then im at 8

[unreal onyx]

3 neck, wrist, belt 2x ring

[fading sky]

helmzan ^_^

[quiet briar]

489 MH or Signet Brand (mainly m+) 🤔

[twin glacier]

anyone has the lariat string for simc? on wow head i cant get a 486 lariat

[unreal onyx]

Oh yea helm

[unreal onyx]

Change ilvl

In the string

[twin glacier]

its not going to 486

[oblique trail]

Elemental Lariat (424)
neck=,id=193001,gem_id=192988/192961/192961,bonus_id=8836/8840/8902/8960/9477/8782/9405/8793/9366,crafted_stats=36/49,crafting_quality=5

You can steal this

Then press the "+" to upgrade it to 486

So it'll also account for your crests etc

[twin glacier]

ty

[bold osprey]

Since im having my 3rd Socket from the vault now ... Would you craft Ring/other Spark item or go for Weapon? According to sims weapon does a bit more. Still not sure whether to switch from vers wrist to shadowflame to just jiggle the stats depending on the other items

[oblique trail]

With what you have, a weapon craft would be a waste

I'd look at a ring craft since it'll likely be better than your Igira ring even + a slot for flavour pocket

[subtle lagoon]

+socket

[wild mural]

Sockie

[fading sky]

hmm. im starting to get the NO legendary sadness 😭

[wild mural]

Just give up, like me 🙂

[fading sky]

ive started gearing my dk

then ive got 2 chars to cry on

😄

[plucky ice]

youll cry if you get it on crap alt lol

[fading sky]

nah

then at least ill have MOG

[red berry]

yeah blizzard's design is trash. it was for evokers and it is for any strength-user

[fading sky]

i mean i know its hard r

like it should feel legendary

but man doing hc every week getting nothing, makes u wanna gear like 3-4 warriors

and just try to get it

but thats just WAY to much work

[red berry]

if i had the patience to gear alts, i might have already

but i really hate alts

[fading sky]

same D:

[red berry]

not my speed

[fading sky]

my dk is only coz we might need a slappy hands

[dark ice]

Can I make WA that watches with how many mobs im in combat with ?

[fading sky]

and i dont trust any1 else to play dk properly

[peak halo]

The general play for crafting is: back & bracers with Shadowflame Patch and then 2 low impact slots as crafted is 3 ilvl lower.

And we add Mastery & Vers to the bits if 25% haste is met?

Would that be good enough reasoning without having to sim?

[thorn oriole]

hello guys, can i have two shadowflamme embelishment on my gear - is it working ?

[edgy widget]

you can have two shadowflame, yes

[thorn oriole]

ty, lov u

[edgy widget]

🥹

[peak halo]

I also fancy you

[fickle bone]

another leggo copium wednesday

[clear palm]

Today is the day

[fickle bone]

Somehow vault refuses giving me any weapon, maybe the game will give leggo

[clear palm]

[fickle bone]

[iron portal]

This is most cursed thing i have seen in a while here

[fickle bone]

In what way cursed?

[trim salmon]

no axe again reeeeeeee

dk doing 100k got it

[subtle lagoon]

I'm going to test this theory

[mossy fox]

same bestie

[subtle lagoon]

I'm going to do absolute dogshit on fyrakk

[trim salmon]

do less dps get legendary, if that's your theory

[subtle lagoon]

die and do shit damage

[trim salmon]

literally hc pug and we had 3 people left alive to kill it - me, a ret, and a blood dk. i died 1% at pushback they fin

:<<<<<<

gonna do it on normal, i know it doesnt work that way but #trustissues

[subtle lagoon]

Normal is farm for guild so I'm going to try it out lmao

[thorn oriole]

we gonna have a sprak this week ?

[oblique trail]

yes

[toxic grove]

omg its so nice to play with wafting

you go zoom zoom

[oblique trail]

twinsies

[thorn oriole]

yo love your content dude!

[wild mural]

but im gonna need to start taking some sockies soon cause I have none

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/FIVS5Dm.png @orchid galleon new opener just dropped

[oblique trail]

holy fk

where is the reck part

[narrow narwhal]

Reck is a crutch

[edgy widget]

tbf it could have been precast

[oblique trail]

the pre-pull reck and get 20 rage

hidden teceh

[edgy widget]

and lose 30!

[pseudo rampart]

dancing blades vs titanic rage, what do you guys use?

[oblique trail]

DB

At all times

[pseudo rampart]

yeah was thinking the same. do you use fresh meat with it or no?

[summer quail]

DB owns

[summer quail]

i did a few weeks ago but not anymore

[pseudo rampart]

alright thank you

[toxic grove]

I just opened the weekly tw quest and it didnt drop augury or signet is it bugged ?

[zenith brook]

So Axe only drops from Fyrakk and if you kill him on highest difficulty it includes basically lower difficulty kills. But would it still be worth to do content/all other bosses to increase chances for next week? Or to get embers?

Or just go for Fyrakk HC kill and call it a day?

[fiery thorn]

alright i got crests and fixed some gear...

[summer bobcat]

should I do fyrakk raid finder after ive done it on normal?

[wild mural]

GETTING THERE

[wild mural]

no

[peak tapir]

Hey guys, if I'm not ever going to get the raid gear, what should be my offset piece from m+?

[wild mural]

whatever sims best

but bis list says the helmet from AD, if you read the guide 🙂

[peak tapir]

I did read the guide, and it said the one from AD, which is what i have on the vault looking at me. But I also have gloves mythic that i could trade on catalyst

[errant vessel]

Legendary, augury, brh neck at 489 and 489 signet

[wild mural]

Sim them then, cause the helmet is good stats anyway

[peak tapir]

Stats for warrior seem very equal, right?

I haven't played dps in a long time, after tanking for years and years, I finally made a character to be full dps, and i'm having a lot of fun playing fury

[wild mural]

holy mother of stackewd

yeah most anything works pretty well for us, but you'll always get the best result by simming gear as you get it

@chrome plover rune soon

[chrome plover]

damn

[empty grove]

retook my 100 parse

[twilit harbor]

Paper hands

[clever path]

socket my beloved

[unreal onyx]

im bout to log on for vault

🙏

[wild mural]

GL king

[unreal onyx]

this vault kinda banging

well kinda not

[clever path]

rezans

[unreal onyx]

I got augury and signet

[summer bobcat]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kRY1aXxAD3v87ztM#fight=4&type=damage-done i just did this

[wild mural]

rezans glanzendes Auge

[summer bobcat]

let me know what u think

[wild mural]

schliebt 8 heroische, mythische oder Zeitwanderungsdungeongs ab

I love german

[unreal onyx]

my text is like twice the length of english

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aBEEfgA54xcu7ULv5kVQvW

hmmmm

[summer quail]

do you already have the beintaschen and the kuppelplatte?

[unreal onyx]

don't have helm but got myth council helm

and have pants already

[summer quail]

i love WoW in other languages

[wild mural]

kuppelplatte obvious choice

[clever path]

signet is ass on short fights and higher ilvl rezans can beat it sometimes on slightly longer fights

[unreal onyx]

well for short fights ill use my 483 might

we're extending from smolderon on

so smoldy, tindral and fyrakk are the main fights i will be doing in the future

[summer quail]

i feel like the first 6 are so easy tho. don't think we will extend til we actually kill smolderon

[unreal onyx]

we got it down to like 11% yesterday

but didn't manage to finish

[oblique trail]

Yeah there's honestly no reason to extend until you're at Tindral

[wild mural]

I have a good feeling

right in the 'nads

[unreal onyx]

I think our RL just really wants the kill

and we might be reclearing after this ID

[wild mural]

I think we extendo today

[unreal onyx]

this ID is scuffed bc of christmas anyway

[wild mural]

wait nvm

i think we reclear

idk

[summer quail]

tho tbf, majority of guilds will not kill tswift even if they kill smolderon. boss still needs several nerfs

so even when we kill smol idk if we're extending for a while

[wild mural]

I think after we kill smolderon we just extendo perma

till fyrakk dead

[unreal onyx]

I guess we will kill smoldy, do 1 more reclear and then prison

[summer quail]

bashing your head against tswift then?

[wild mural]

yeah i guess so

[unreal onyx]

im torn on boots or rezan

[wild mural]

rezan

boots are temporary

unless you're me, aka, a dumbass

[unreal onyx]

my augury from nm consistently does 35-100% more dmg than sims in the same fight length show

ofc it's just for me personally

but idk if rezan would actually be an upgrade compared to that

[summer bobcat]

did u guys ignore my log

how dare u

[unreal onyx]

#449510248579858432

[summer bobcat]

watch your mouth

😡

[wild mural]

no my eyes dont go down that far

[unreal onyx]

im also offspec tanking king now

(I will never use these)

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oXqF45C6BocGXe2dLhifSk

replacing my gems/enchants is almost as big of an upgrade with the boots as with rezan

[unreal cape]

do what? get a 74 parse on a normal raid boss? 😂

[unreal onyx]

is that believable?

[wild mural]

I can hardly believe it

[summer bobcat]

im looking fora review u absolute buffoon

[desert cloud]

wasn't there a charge for this week

for tier ?

[oblique trail]

no it's spark this week

[desert cloud]

omfg i just wasted a vault item

[flat sapphire]

If I put loot spec for prot warr can I still get legendary

[oblique trail]

yes

it doesn't care about loot spec

just what class you are

[flat sapphire]

ah okay thanks

my friend wants the tank trink

[unreal onyx]

benzai

[eternal sundial]

opener shaly

[unreal onyx]

you are one of the few who knows things

[eternal sundial]

didnt roar til 50 in

[unreal onyx]

do I take boots or rezan

[eternal sundial]

didnt run WW talents

[oblique trail]

boots to rezan

what does this mean

[unreal onyx]

this

[oblique trail]

Idk I'd pick Rezan since it's better than Aug on ST on average, and you can get boots from Volcoross

[toxic grove]

how to view logs like that ?

[eternal sundial]

also missed a full avatar cuz u delay cds

[oblique trail]

Volcoross you'll rekill like 58 times over

[unreal onyx]

but we extend this ID

[oblique trail]

select a person -> casts -> timelines

[unreal onyx]

and idk if we extend until CE after

[unreal onyx]

I think I should ask RL what the plan is

if we extend I take boots prolly

[summer bobcat]

my roar hotkey and trinket was wrong thats why i did it late, but what about WW talents?

[unreal onyx]

if we reclear again I take rezan

[summer bobcat]

isnt Igra a ST boss

[unreal onyx]

but smolderon can also drop boots

hmmm

[eternal sundial]

spears

[oblique trail]

It's an ST boss with very quick burst cleave

[unreal onyx]

actually, I think it is the smartest to wait until we kill smolderon this week

[oblique trail]

If Spears live long enough for you to get 4 WW attacks off then there's something wrong at this point

[wild mural]

LETSA FUCKING GO

[oblique trail]

pog

guess you wont quit after all

[toxic grove]

omg gz

[clever path]

trying to analyze xcyde log, where the hell did He cast avatar?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZGMfchdQT2rDwvW9#fight=44&type=damage-done&source=46&view=events

[unreal onyx]

aintnoway

big gratz

[river reef]

not sure if thats a win for syi or not

[wild mural]

major L

[river reef]

ik man. you got so close

[oblique trail]

Go into casts -> timelines

It's way easier to see there

[toxic grove]

is this a good opener?

[oblique trail]

no you speared before OF

Which means you waste uptime inside of the very narrow spear buff window casting OF, when you want to get as many BBs inside of it instead

[unreal cape]

is this the log review channel, u absolute baffoon? no? then fuck off

[oblique trail]

You want to Reck + Charge -> Ramp -> OF -> Spear/Roar -> BB -> Ramp -> Avatar -> BB -> Ramp

[terse ether]

Actually for me normal augury vs myth 4/4 rezan does more dmg st

Sim says otherwise but augury wins everytime

[desert cloud]

why is it that when i reck charge sometimes i don't get enough rage for ramp ?

is that normal

[oblique trail]

For you

[summer bobcat]

i post whatever i want where ever i want u aint even a discord mod chill tf down Rhanoss ass

[oblique trail]

It's if you reck'd before the pull

[unreal onyx]

now you are actually finished for the season

[desert cloud]

so is it better that i reck after i charge ?

[oblique trail]

no

[desert cloud]

i mean while charging

[wild mural]

yes

[oblique trail]

It's called wait for the pull to actually happen

[wild mural]

its joever

cause I cant afford it

[oblique trail]

And not pop reck before the pull happens

[unreal onyx]

can I send cross-realm gold?

[desert cloud]

y

[oblique trail]

Any rage you have before a pull happens will be lowered to a max of 20 rage

[desert cloud]

dammit

[wild mural]

can trade it cross realm not sure about sending

[desert cloud]

i been ninja pulling this whole time

[unreal cape]

never said i was a mod. but u come in here making a scene and calling ppl out for not reviewing your log when you post in wrong channel

[unreal onyx]

what realm are you on?

[wild mural]

Stormscale

[ornate turtle]

guys i got Augury from vault. am i supposed to be playing augury + might of the ocean for M+? feels kinda weird to run 2 crit trinkets and no main stat

[summer bobcat]

stfu it was a joke and nobody got offended except your snowflake ass

stop @ me

[summer quail]

aguruy+might owns

[unreal onyx]

I can't send gold to your realm

[oblique trail]

Yes, it's overall the best M+ setup you can have

[unreal cape]

haha fuck off

[oblique trail]

And Crit itself is quite good for AoE

[river reef]

put something on the AH for the designated donated amount of gold and syi buys it

wait

[summer bobcat]

or what u little rat

[river reef]

the other way around

[unreal onyx]

more like reverse

[river reef]

sorry

[unreal onyx]

@wild mural wanna list smthn on the AH for me to buy?

[desert cloud]

reverse ratatouille

[ornate turtle]

what about for raid fights with adds? gnarl, larodar, fyrakk? is it also same trinkets or do i swap one out for Rezan/Signet Brand

[desert cloud]

i been running augery and mirror in m+

[wild mural]

lemme see if 300k is enough first

[oblique trail]

For raid I'd use Augury + Signet depending on the fight and length of it

[wild mural]

hmm I need to do a superbloom

[oblique trail]

But I have neither

[unreal onyx]

I would've sent you 250k, no idea if that is enough

[desert cloud]

all my ST sims under 5 mins tell me to run augery and mirror

[oblique trail]

so I haven't actually been able to test it

[oblique trail]

The lower the fight time the more value Mirror gets, and the less value Brand will have

[ornate turtle]

mainly for mythic raid so thats usually around 5 min +

[wild mural]

I'll let you know if I run out of gold ❤️

[oblique trail]

You can sim it to get a good idea, and make a cross reference with what top logs use for the fights

[desert cloud]

send me a gazillion gold pls

[oblique trail]

Gnarlroot is a meme fight, so use w/e you want there really

[spare otter]

How was your vault @oblique trail

[oblique trail]

Larodar the adds usually die very fast, so it's a fairly ST oriented fight

[unreal onyx]

bet

[oblique trail]

Tindral is also mostly ST from what I've gathered with quick AoE bursts, like Igira is

[narrow narwhal]

New 2d anime girl in vault

[oblique trail]

it was shit was how it was

[spare otter]

Same man

Next week it'll be good for sure

[unreal onyx]

saturday hc run, surely I am as lucky as CEeyi

[desert cloud]

the igiras i did mirror was way better cuz when the cooldown resets there is spears and no one has burst so i solo destroy them which sky rocketed my dps

i had like 12 million dmmg done on spears

[wild mural]

Ok but what do I do

this guide makes no sense

[unreal onyx]

what does it say

[proud vessel]

anything specific we need to do when playing with signet in m+?

[unreal onyx]

stay in combat

otherwise you drop stacks

[summer quail]

pull for the tank when stacks are about to drop(don't actually do this)

[wild mural]

Have I missed a q I wonder

[unreal onyx]

3 weeks superbloom + 1 rep box

I am either smart with saving or the day I get leggo I am gonna be very disappointed

[desert cloud]

i did it when i had the amalgamation trink

and i do it when i have signet

[dreamy notch]

it doesnt work

[desert cloud]

it doesn't hurt to use the occasional heroic throw

[unreal onyx]

100%?

[summer quail]

can do it a few times and it's fine. "oh no i accidentally pulled, mb"

[desert cloud]

if u say nothing they don't realise

[wild mural]

I did

[summer quail]

ye, but if they say something

[dreamy notch]

someone tried already

[clever path]

he fucked up the rotation didnt he?

[oblique trail]

no it's smolderon

or well

you just want avatar + spear out asap

[clever path]

so just throw it to line with intermission

[unreal onyx]

smolderon opener fucks with my head every time

[clever path]

makes sense

charge reck OF avatar

[unreal onyx]

reck charge of spear avatar

[dark ice]

Is this good trinket ?

[unreal onyx]

is what I do on smolderon

[unreal onyx]

BiS in pure ST

[dark ice]

and m+ ?

[forest rose]

ass

[unreal onyx]

ok if you can maintain stacks

[spare otter]

Isn't smold opener

Reck charge avatar spear of

[forest rose]

there are easier trinkets for m+

[unreal onyx]

idk tbh

might be

[spare otter]

Idk if it matter all that much tbh

It's like 1-2 sec difference

[oblique trail]

Missing a vital part

no rampage in either of them

[spare otter]

Yea I know

[oblique trail]

whichever way

[spare otter]

Couldn't be bothered to edit it in

[oblique trail]

as long as you get avatar + spear out asap

it's fine

[summer quail]

i do reck>charge>ramp>of>spear>avatar on smolderon

[unreal onyx]

I think I found a solution to my dilemma

I am going to commit auction house on myself if we don't reclear again

and get boe boots

[cinder pumice]

Honed reflexes doesn't interact with Annihilator does it?

[oblique trail]

well there's no cooldown on Annihilator

so no

[summer quail]

it does not

[trim salmon]

does anyone else wish that the embers for leggo didnt exist

i'd rather be blissfully unaware that i've gotten BLP

pretty pointless either way but ye

[warm crag]

me when im inventing stuff to get upset at

[civic fjord]

Without knowing what they give, it's absolutely pointless

[unreal onyx]

rats

[summer quail]

they give you a 50/50 chance at leggo

[unreal onyx]

crazy? I was crazy once

[trim salmon]

i dont recall being upset

[mossy fox]

same

[civic fjord]

Nice troll

[summer quail]

you either get it or you don't

50/50

[wild mural]

i gottem crit

[civic fjord]

Bad logic

[cinder pumice]

What are we trading for cleave for raid build?

Juggernaut and massc?

[oblique trail]

yes

[cinder pumice]

damn

[dark ice]

When blizzard reduced m+ scaling above 20s last season, does that still apply to this season ?

[dreamy notch]

This rare farm for the leggo is actually worse than superbloom

There are just none

[summer quail]

no

[silent burrow]

It sucks. You gotta use group finder and shard hop

[dark ice]

How do you know ?

[silent burrow]

Also having a friend join your group that hasn't killed any and have them fly around and spot the rares

And then have them not tag the rares

So they keep showing up for them

You can just chain shard hop though

[unreal onyx]

at least there is no lockout for the same rare

[silent burrow]

Yeah, it does suck though

[paper ivy]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nPC2nwk3TcWsLP6QijFnQ8

what should i craft? another neck or finger

[static nest]

why do some people use bloodcraze over ss?

[summer quail]

they said it was just for that season, if they actually did so i don't know tbf

[flat sapphire]

Is still talent set still good for tyrannical?

[unreal onyx]

ring or boots imo, but you can sim droptimizer

but how do you sim so low

[paper ivy]

no buffs

[silent burrow]

You run the same talents on tyran and fort

[unreal onyx]

ahh 0 buffs

yea makes sense

[flat sapphire]

And those are the talents?

[silent burrow]

Is that the talents in the m+ wowhead talent builder?

[unreal onyx]

you could take dancing blades over titanic rage

[silent burrow]

I figure if you have to ask this question, titanic rage probably still the play tbh

I play db both weeks but it definitely isn't as easy to play as TR

[unreal onyx]

its like kinda the same

you just need 1 more ww

[silent burrow]

It's not tho

[covert void]

another week, another greater ember ah

[static nest]

it's definitely not the same

[silent burrow]

of enraging you helps considerably at times

[static nest]

if you send of without enraging first you can lose a lot

[summer quail]

if you're not confident titanic rage is great qol

very nice for newer players

[neat plinth]

Big fury warriors with the legendary im calling to you, how are you managing the on use effect? I dont really feel much of a increase with it in raid single target.

[sage mauve]

For weapon enchant, are we going sophic or double wafting? i see so many go double wafting now

[covert void]

sim its different depending.

[unreal onyx]

I am not a leggo haver, nor am I a big fury warrior

[summer quail]

🤖

[silent burrow]

Pretty underwhelming ngl, just use outside of cd's really

[unreal onyx]

but there is info in the pins