fury

[native wadi]

share more vaults brothers

[spare otter]

What if it's 2 melee that gets it

Or does it not work out like that

[wild mural]

guess we wipe

[restive peak]

It can

[native wadi]

im getting hero smold trinket and leg tomorrow

[tender seal]

Call dibs

[spare otter]

Loool

[restive peak]

But I can tell you being 4th as melee is hell

You lose giga uptime

So this will help

[unreal onyx]

[wild mural]

yep

[coarse nest]

Melee should never ever be 4th

Jesus

[restive peak]

It happens

[wild mural]

cause its easier than fury apparently

[coarse nest]

People do it like that?

[unreal onyx]

syi

[restive peak]

If you use the auto list yes

[unreal onyx]

don't become fotm

[wild mural]

its not fotm if I play it

I suck

[delicate flume]

so i craft titanic insight ring with what stats

[restive peak]

DH is fun

[pseudo rampart]

If playign Dancing Blades in m+, would it be worth to pair it with fresh meat? if so, what point do i move to put into fresh meat?

[restive peak]

My DH got heroic augury in vault ofc

[pseudo rampart]

playing*

[wild mural]

I just got told it's easier than fury

[restive peak]

Just reck>charge>Ramp>OF Dip

Don't waste a point on FM

[spare otter]

Bruuuhh

[unreal onyx]

im saving some names already for 11.0 (?) with cross-realm guilds

[restive peak]

DH is like 70% passive dmg so yes

[spare otter]

How can I press macro when I got no space for keybinds

Fml

[unreal onyx]

so people want dumb names but still be in the guild

500iq

[restive peak]

It's extremely forgiving except if you don't think your dashes through

[wild mural]

angy

[unreal onyx]

kyora

[summer bobcat]

wish i get it aswell from vault

[unreal onyx]

[spring crest]

[summer bobcat]

in 12 hours

[wild mural]

angyUwU

[unreal onyx]

catalyzed belt sims ok for me, might look into that

[unreal onyx]

I have Rat, Baby, Nft and Dumb

and Ha

Bitcoin sadly taken

[clever path]

sim but generally its gonna be vers mastery

always sim

[stable cove]

opening vault when i get home boys prayge for trinket

still rocking a 450 emerald dream world drop

[left perch]

my priest is Nstagram but now I wish I tried for bitcoin awhile ago

[stable cove]

i had bitcoin on black dragon flight but got removed :/

[unreal onyx]

I have a Blockchain shaman now at least

bc block with shield and wear chain

[wild mural]

@chrome plover

[unreal onyx]

I don't have vulpera

[dire badge]

missing out

[wild mural]

you are

get vulpera

[restive peak]

Guys send me your positive vibes

We bout to do heroic

Leggo surely

[past pivot]

Nope. All saved for me.

[unreal onyx]

🙏

[restive peak]

Respect

[restive peak]

❤️

[past pivot]

Afterward, happy to help out. 😄

[wild mural]

OnlyVibes

[cedar edge]

how often is wowhead updated

[restive peak]

We prayg

[cedar edge]

surely the leggo is bis

[molten relic]

does it need to be on the bis list

[left perch]

well and chain lightning mayb

[molten relic]

for you to know that?

[wild mural]

just rememeber

strong

[left perch]

was taken when I tried

[molten relic]

the fact ur in alterac valley

[cedar edge]

no just lazy for anybody looking to actually know if they arent a war lol

[molten relic]

huge W

[molten relic]

if ur any 2h melee class

it's bis

[wild mural]

i was doing the heritage quest and it bugged out so I just logged out

[unreal onyx]

my realm is dead asf

[cedar edge]

i know

[molten relic]

In classic shamans used to be scary as fuck in AV

[unreal onyx]

but will be populated once cross-realm guilds are a thing and people want usually taken names

[wild mural]

I didnt play classic

[past pivot]

"BiS" lists are usually BS. Most people have the common sense to assume a legendary weapon is actually BiS. Probably not worth updating an article just for that unless there is other news to include in it

[wild mural]

some guy in a hof guild had the same name as my monk but with a load of accents

unfortunately he didnt offer to buy my name

[molten relic]

I have vivid memories of a dude multi boxing 5 shamans

it was not a fun thing when they just chainlightning into you and 4-5 people die

[unreal onyx]

if I ever want to switch main, I at least already have most classes I would consider with a good name

im still missing a DH name tho

[south kayak]

nice special characters

[wild mural]

I made cumvoker once

[stuck bison]

Hah claasic dn

[unreal onyx]

Dash for dh is already taken

[wild mural]

thanks theyre very funny

on my level 64 evoker

[unreal onyx]

ez

[wild mural]

rogue player

[cedar edge]

right but only one class isnt updated is the point lol most people have the common sense to just sim but those articles arent written for the people that know what to do

[unreal onyx]

I can make a rogue called Sneak

[pseudo rampart]

If playing Dancing Blades in m+, would it be worth to pair it with fresh meat? if so, what point do i move to put into fresh meat?

[wild mural]

I like dumb names for my chars

[unreal onyx]

my main for 3 years is literally Lolxd

[molten relic]

thats

a cursed pic

[plucky ice]

delete it

[wild mural]

huh

never

[plucky ice]

name good, mog not

[warm pewter]

What a fucking gigachad

[plucky ice]

[sudden tusk]

why change smolderon now

[inland flame]

-1 for special character in name, +100 for everything else

[sudden tusk]

weird

[ember apex]

b/c the best wow dev for blizzard just got to the boss on prog

[sudden tusk]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[ember apex]

remember zskarn

[plucky ice]

Ion got to smolderon

[sudden tusk]

LETS

FUCKING

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[warm pewter]

Why didnt you already kill him??

[plucky ice]

ya boy

[ember apex]

crazy

GZ

[oblique trail]

Gg you know why

[inland flame]

Wow Rock Footman's Legplates congrats

[fallen quarry]

anyone played with branch onb mythic smolderon?

or should i just play with might of the ocean since it lines up wi9th every buff est

[final trellis]

Is it helpful to kill Fyrak on multiple difficulties? or just the highest one you can?

[toxic grove]

my proudest name

[fallen quarry]

highest one

[final trellis]

Even though I get the item from heroic and normal?

[inland flame]

You get drop chance and BLP from all lower difficulties when you do a higher one

[fallen quarry]

killing on heroic gives you normal chance

and LFR chance

if you wanna hate yourself you can do LFR -> normal -> heroic

but the %chance doesnt change

[final trellis]

Ok, so getting the item from all three difficulties is the same as just getting it from heroic

[humble plover]

My fav name is a vulpera warrior named Furcules

[crisp coral]

Wait so if you don't get it in heroic, there's no chance you'll get it in normal or LFR that week?

[hybrid wagon]

ah cool, i was just wondering that. because my guild might not our fyrakk kill in this week due to holidays

[fallen quarry]

yep

[past pivot]

No

[inland flame]

Maybe

[fallen quarry]

thats exactly how it works

[toxic grove]

the blp ?

[inland flame]

Sorry just wanted all three answers in here

[humble plover]

Lol

[past pivot]

That's exactly how it works. Kill it in heroic and you use your normal and LFR chances. Kill it in mythic and you use heroic-normal-LFR chances.

[hybrid wagon]

heh, so how does that work - lfr has a .5% chance, normal .6 - but if your normal kill is second of the week, you technically have only the remaining .1% drop rate?

[wild mural]

If you do it on HC you can't get it in normal or LFR, I believe. I think it takes the chance from all 3 or something

[humble plover]

Highest difficulty rolls all lower difficulties chances. Waste time killing again on lower

[wild mural]

^

[fallen quarry]

you said no to no chance from getting it my man.

there is 0 chance you get from lfr / normal if you kill on heroic before

[humble plover]

Waste time going from lfr>normal>heroic too

[flat sapphire]

Your name people usually calls me in my guild

[mortal depot]

champion brand or hero augury?

[flat sapphire]

Cause my character is tatertotss

[toxic grove]

wtf augury ofc

[humble plover]

Lmao

Po ta toes

Boil em mash em

[flat sapphire]

Tbh potatoes slaps

So good

[inland flame]

Stick em in a stew

[chrome plover]

tf

that better be a goblin

[eternal sundial]

GERMANY MENTIONED RAAAAHHHH

[chrome plover]

wow this is an incredibly brave take

[chrome plover]

god bless

[mortal depot]

myth spike counterweight or myth butcher block

[eternal sundial]

Socket

Horrid trinkets

[frozen lake]

No it would be like you would have a .5 in lfr and then a .6 in normal, but if you just kill normal first you have a 1.1

[wild mural]

huh

icb bin ein hurrikan

[eternal sundial]

Potatoes are a very german thing

[inland flame]

BB is okay depending on what you already have

[eternal sundial]

Never worth ur vault pick imo

[mortal depot]

hero augry or myth bb

[wild mural]

augury

[eternal sundial]

Augury from HC is myth track no?

[wild mural]

yes

heroic or hero track

[eternal sundial]

Well if urs is from HC grab that but prolly rekill

[fair star]

You are one hurrikan

[wild mural]

we need a better way of defining that

[past pivot]

Even an LFR Augury is good

[mortal depot]

kk ty

[eternal sundial]

Their everytime we touch video goes hard

[wild mural]

it does

I saw them live earlier this year

it was hype as fuck

[eternal sundial]

Jelly

[wild mural]

Im gonna go see them again when they're in the UK again

[red yew]

Is CEyi making a return this tier

[wild mural]

CEyi is deadge

[eternal sundial]

???

What happened

[wild mural]

I told my RL to find a new warrior cause I dont really wanna play

[eternal sundial]

Nioooo

[opal monolith]

hello furries

[wild mural]

Just not enjoying the game that much

[opal monolith]

furies

sorry

anyways

[red yew]

Based

[wild mural]

uwu

[opal monolith]

who has a weakaura that notifies you when ur being targeted by a spell?

[red yew]

🤝

[wild mural]

I said I'd stick around till they found a replace but

[eternal sundial]

Rev gets r1 and immediately retires

No defending it...

[red yew]

[wild mural]

I just don't feel it really

[eternal sundial]

Idk this raid is okay

[red yew]

Best to quit when you're ahead

[eternal sundial]

Been liking volc a lot

[unreal onyx]

volc is free

[wild mural]

Im not a big fan of Fury atm, I feel like Im generally underperforming a lot, and the bosses are just a bit meh

[jovial rover]

That's just me playing fury all the time

[wild mural]

in my opinion

[eternal sundial]

It's a big change in gameplay tbf

I like this more than last tier

[wild mural]

of the fury variants I've played, last tier was the best

[past pivot]

It's never a bad thing to take a break and recharge your batteries. It is a game after all.

[ember apex]

i dont like having spikiness in my damage i prefer consistent damage at all times vs highs and lows

[unreal onyx]

S2 fury felt better if you had uptime

[eternal sundial]

Burst is better

[unreal onyx]

but the downtime was too punishing

[ember apex]

thats why i dont like this tier set b/c u swap out anger management

[eternal sundial]

S2 proc hell

[wild mural]

and the other thing is, outside of my disc priest I don't wanna really play anything else lol

[ember apex]

downtime in ur CDs is even more punishing

[eternal sundial]

Come 25s on ur disc then syi

[wild mural]

noooo im bad

I'll be even more exposed than I am now

[eternal sundial]

Simply become god disc

Be moadmoad

[wild mural]

Im not exactly a gamer

[modest condor]

resto warrior gamer

[eternal sundial]

Ez all 20s next week

[crisp coral]

Is it even possible to become god disc? You're at the mercy of the rest of your groups CC

[wild mural]

my screaming heals ppl

[eternal sundial]

Depends on the key

In BRH u can cc everything

[wild mural]

It's fun trying something new tho

that's the only thing I really wanna do atm

I've never been a healer

[eternal sundial]

U tried tank?

Brew is funny

[wild mural]

Yeah Im pretty bad

I haven't really tanked since the SL S3 incident

[eternal sundial]

Ignoring that is it fun

[wild mural]

the SL S3 incident

[opal monolith]

do u guys ever spec zerk rage for AD

[eternal sundial]

Nah

[ember apex]

no

[opal monolith]

is it worth to drop some point for it

fair enough

[eternal sundial]

Keep forgetting

[ember apex]

its 0.5s

just los

[opal monolith]

this is what i miss about having utility baseline tho

[eternal sundial]

Id grab aoe break for dht

[opal monolith]

we just had it u know

back in teh day

[eternal sundial]

If troll grp

[inland flame]

If your Rezan positioning is good you dip out for literally like 0.5s

[eternal sundial]

I miss intervene baseline

[ember apex]

meh if its useful actually u would take it

[opal monolith]

yea u guys are not wrong

[ember apex]

i do get ur point tho

[inland flame]

We'd better get baseline TClap or DStance for Mountain King

[ember apex]

but being able to take shockwave and pad stuns on the meter is fun too

so thats the upside

[frozen lake]

It's just a fun enjoyable ability

[crisp coral]

Nobody is going to run mountain king as fury

It should have been an arms tree really

[crimson hazel]

how does the pip trinket work? is it like the chromatic essence? if it is is there a way to sim for each stat?

[eternal sundial]

Especially with safeguard

[inland flame]

Calm down now we don't even know what Colossus looks like

[oblique trail]

Because we know this when we haven't even seen the other tree yet

[eternal sundial]

It just does one of 3 random stats and then swaps no need to sim

It's worse than oce fwiw

[crisp coral]

You don't really have to see the other tree to see how little mountain king really helps us

[oblique trail]

:)?

[crimson hazel]

okay thanks

[eternal sundial]

Jfc it's been like a day and these shit takes alr floating around

[inland flame]

The Ravager CDR is a little cringe maybe with desync issues but otherwise you lost me

[ember apex]

whats a shit take

[unreal onyx]

what shit takes?

[ember apex]

yeah

[unreal onyx]

i wanna see them

[ember apex]

explain urself

[eternal sundial]

Saying no one would play it

On fury

[unreal onyx]

play what

[wraith gull]

stupid question inc: will this proc of Augury and Signet Brand?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[eternal sundial]

The subspec they showed off

[wraith gull]

ty

[ember apex]

yeah what about it

[unreal onyx]

it's literally like 5 squares that describe it

how can people make out anything from that

[ember apex]

as fury u need to be able to see the Slayer Passive tree

to make an informed decision

[eternal sundial]

🙃

[ember apex]

bro its too early to say first of all. 2nd of all he could be 100% right we just dont know yet

what if slayer is pog AF

[inland flame]

Ya that's the problem tho the not knowing part

[ember apex]

he's allowed to prognosticate

[eternal sundial]

It's pointless dooming

[ember apex]

ok

[eternal sundial]

Provide constructive feedback instead

[ember apex]

what happens if he turns out to be 100% right and noone plays moountain thane as fury

will u apologize

[eternal sundial]

Why would i

[unreal onyx]

pin the message

[ember apex]

so even if u know ur wrong

u wouldnt apologize

[past pivot]

No because it's a stupid take and no chance it's right.

[ember apex]

its too early to say one way or the other

[inland flame]

Its not wrong to say you shouldn't come to conclusions with half of the info missing

[eternal sundial]

Which is why the take is bad

[ember apex]

but admitting u wont apologize for calling something a shit take once ur proven wrong just shows his mentality

[eternal sundial]

And a bad take like that doesnt deserve recognition as correct if he hits the 50/50

[past pivot]

It's not too early to say no fury will take mountain thane.

[inland flame]

Oh boy, I'm dipping lads gl lol

[ember apex]

u said you wouldnt apologize even if ur 100% proven wrong

[past pivot]

It would be different if he said most fury likely won't take it

[ember apex]

like how can u not accept an L. it literally could be a phil W but u cant take credit b/c u wont give him credit

and u admit it

[eternal sundial]

Why would i have to apologize for my opinion on a take

[ember apex]

b/c he could be right and u wont apologize for calling it shit

[eternal sundial]

Disregarding the outcome my opinion just stands as is

[ember apex]

when he could be 100% accurate

so how is an accurate statement a shit take

if its accurate

[hybrid wagon]

innocent people lost their lives

[ember apex]

explain plz

[graceful dock]

Is there a weakaura that shows when ure being targeted by a spell which u can reflect?

[ember apex]

kinda

[past pivot]

For him to be right, there would have to be proof that not 1 fury warrior in the world took mountain thane as a spec. You think that's possible????

[hybrid wagon]

yeah there's a few pybal

[graceful dock]

Any u'd recommend thats like updated for season 3 dungeon pool?

[ember apex]

i took it as a general statement first of all not as a 100% 0 fury warriors are running MT. like for example. im sure u could find warriors still running ravager in M+ but that's generally not the case

[eternal sundial]

Ye in the ui channel there's a few

[ember apex]

also im not defending the position

my PoV is that it's far too early to tell. especially w/ nothing to compare it to from Slayer

thats what i think

but hes saying he wont apologize even if hes proven wrong

[hardy monolith]

Bro

[ember apex]

which i dont think is constructive

[eternal sundial]

Ur just arguing pointless semantics

They guy who said the thing will forget he did way before the 2nd subspec even gets revealed

[hardy monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-arguing-guy-talking-to-wall-talking-brick-wall-gif-18667615

[past pivot]

He said no fury warrior would take it. Not qualified. I said that's a BS take. I stand by that. All of nothing. Not shades of grey or trying to modify his statement to fit your argument.

[oblique trail]

Talking to a lot of blocked messages are you going schizo phil

[eternal sundial]

Ye im hallucinating content

[ember apex]

hit show

or i guess someone else has to tell him

i had this happen to me too

its annoying AF

[eternal sundial]

Im glad no raid till new year

Bedge

[ember apex]

do u think we get fated

but DF version of fated

[past pivot]

We will

[brittle phoenix]

Same

[ember apex]

fated version of leggo u think?

[brittle phoenix]

Big chillin

[ember apex]

like fated ilvl

[oblique trail]

Some psychopaths voted yes to raid both on Christmas eve and new years eve

In my guild

[vale reef]

boys, i just paid someone 300k gold for this bad boy, worth it right?

[paper ivy]

Yeah

[oblique trail]

Its a very good item for the rest of the season so

[spare otter]

300k? bargain

if i got that as a drop

i'd start the auction at 2m gold

[cunning moth]

2 trinkets in 2 runs bruh xd

[mossy fox]

trade him another 300k

[paper ivy]

What’s this raveger build ppl are talking abt?

[ember apex]

its from S1/S2 from DF

no one runs it anymore b/c of T31 tier set

[eternal sundial]

Fiends

Im prolly doing very casual HC rekill or some shit

Or i finish the pvp grind

[glad tangle]

300k for mythic track lol

You just robbed that guy

[wanton mirage]

wtf 300k. i want to buy 10. pls

[glad tangle]

I offered 500k for brand and got a no

[ember apex]

whose excited to grind out myth track augury during fated

poggers

[pseudo rampart]

If playing Dancing Blades in m+, would it be worth to pair it with fresh meat? if so, what point do i move to put into fresh meat?

[jovial rover]

Nah stay enraged like a man

[oblique trail]

Yeah I'll also just crank a quick reclear of hc and call it

Don't think there'd even be any guilds I could join that'd raid mythic for the week

[paper ivy]

Do we drop the legendary tomorrow?

I really need a Christmas gift

[river reef]

wdym

get your ass in the raid

[hidden coral]

I paid 500k for a rezan on my prot pally

[spare otter]

?

[hidden coral]

[vale reef]

yeah seems like i got a christmas miracle for sure

[spare otter]

idk about that one chief

[vale reef]

he had no mythic prog and was on moonguard

[oblique trail]

You're better off using Bloodcraze for more ST or Slaughtering if you want a bit more aoe

[eternal sundial]

Dropped today im sick man

[river reef]

[eternal sundial]

U never know if i see u in some pug ill try join n trade u brand (i can def need on it if i have one )

[tame yarrow]

Leggo on thursday raid surely

[oblique trail]

We kill smolderon in 3 hours and I loot the mythic version

Then get augury in vault tomorrow

[ember apex]

"sry RC loot council broke" damnit

[hidden coral]

Weird question, How many Lesser BLP do you guys have?

[ember apex]

idk

[paper ivy]

I think u drop 1-2 per week

This week i got 1 from hc

1 from mythic

[coarse nest]

I have 400 blp in my mind

Reality I have about 8

[hidden coral]

https://wago.io/_smqBY9dR

same thing as the macro does, but its an aura

[oblique trail]

This is extremely useless

[spare otter]

lol

[paper ivy]

„ Destroyed „

[hidden coral]

You are a man of small hopes

[eternal sundial]

That's the plan

[coarse nest]

That’s about as useful as the “declined” WA

[oblique trail]

I'm a man who doesn't need to have a counter that means nothing to me, when I go kill the boss on highest difficulty as possible each week and either loot it or not

[hidden coral]

chad

[coarse nest]

“I’m a man”

[eternal sundial]

Gl killing before wa breaks

[coarse nest]

[paper ivy]

I’m only human afterall

[oblique trail]

Owo

[ember apex]

i have 5 heroic Fyrakk kills and ill have 6 this week. What % of warriors/paladins/dks that have that amount of heroic fyrakk kills have legendary if u guys had to guess

[hidden coral]

50%

you get it or not

[coarse nest]

Both hpals in my guild have it,
no one else

[ember apex]

no way its that high b/c then we'd have ppl in my guild who have it

statisicaly

[paper ivy]

Our paladin has it too

I haven’t seen a warrior with the legendary yet

[hidden coral]

last week our hpally gets the axe. He never played a DPS spec in his life lol

Sadge RNG

[ember apex]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-smh-gif-14443178

[red yew]

:her:

[eternal sundial]

Hooly based

[red yew]

There it is..

[hidden coral]

He even gets to 70 as healer cus he dont know how to press divine storm

[ember apex]

go away spirits haunt me no longer

[shell jackal]

patchwerk, 5 targets, 1m 30s fight duration for m+ simming - its telling me mirror is better than ocean

or, well, its telling me to pick mirror over might lul

[ember apex]

now sim 2min59sec.

its a 3min CD trinket

so ofcourse the effect is gonna be bigger

than 1min30sec trinket

[oblique trail]

Yeah ofc

[shell jackal]

1min 30s because packs of mobs are usually dead in m+ in about a minute 30

[hasty path]

Well yes a 3min trink will look better than a 1.5min trink when they’re both used once

[ember apex]

its less than that usually

[hasty path]

Lmao

[oblique trail]

Its such a small time frame that'll always favour mirror

[ember apex]

whats ur keys

[ember apex]

literally just said that

[hasty path]

But consider your next pull you’d have might again but you wouldn’t have mirror again

Assuming the same timeframe

[ember apex]

exactly

[shell jackal]

yeah fair enough i see both ur points, dw gamers, i'm capable of reading thanks

yeah ill keep running might :>

[ember apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/784985575647739955.webp?size=48&name=Sus&quality=lossless

[shell jackal]

false

[restive peak]

No leggo

[ember apex]

just killed heroic?

[restive peak]

Yep

[wild mural]

[ember apex]

how many fyrakk heroic kills do u have now

5 or 6

[restive peak]

Someones alt warr got it on 1st kill

Since week 1

[ember apex]

same

so thats 6 for u

damn dude

that sucks

im for sure getting it this week

[unreal onyx]

we only got the leggo since 2 weeks

[restive peak]

Sadness is real

[ember apex]

is there a way to see LFR boss kill numbers for a character

[oblique trail]

Gg next week is it

[ember apex]

besides the super bugged char stat page

[unreal onyx]

raiderio

I think

[prime summit]

is there a way to compare shadowflame armor patch to allied wrists in raidbots?

[shell jackal]

[unreal onyx]

gear compare

[restive peak]

Probably not reclearin either so def no 489 wep

[prime summit]

👍

[unreal onyx]

I think we will reclear 1 more time this reset

[shell jackal]

archi says in the pins that the difference between those two is 0.02% or something like that? its pretty low

[unreal onyx]

after that it's jail time

[ember apex]

jail time prob not that bad b/c u get 3 heroic vaults

so chance at augury and heroic signet brand if u dont have

[unreal onyx]

jail time bad bc wipe fiesta

[ember apex]

thats prog

idc about that

[unreal onyx]

I got signet brand and nm (hc track) augury

[shell jackal]

the only thing i need from hc vault now is rageheart, tbh. myth track tier legs. ive got everything else. maybe might myth track, or rezans myth track.

[ember apex]

ur not a retail hardcore andy are u

[unreal onyx]

hc augury sims like 750dps more than my nm one

but my mn one has leech

idk if I would switch to hc one then even

[ember apex]

so ur switching ur char to hardcore?

[unreal onyx]

no

[paper ivy]

Ive been pretty lucky with vault

Mythic might mythic howl , shoulder and leg tierset

[acoustic furnace]

Go with allied wrists. Shadowflame is stronger in ST but the allied Wristguards are good for both ST and MT.

[elder vessel]

is crusted block actually good in aoe

or is it a simtrap on bloodmallet

[past pivot]

It's ok if you don't have Might, Augury or Crab

[acoustic furnace]

In other words it's literally the very last thing you want to be running lol

[elder vessel]

i hve might

i just dont know what to use as my second trinket in keys

tbh

[acoustic furnace]

What do you have?

[past pivot]

Might is Bis. Augury is 2nd. Crab, Gore, Pip are probably next tier down

[glad coyote]

gore doesnt sim well for me

[modest condor]

on aoe?

[past pivot]

MT sims can be funky

[glad coyote]

yeah

[elder vessel]

i have might mirror gore rezans branch and a normal brand

[glad coyote]

its decent uptime for my prot pally tank in my premade though

[acoustic furnace]

Bc gore is total shit and I'll die on this hill

[elder vessel]

not the biggest fan of double on use

so i usually just use my normal brand

[frail prism]

can someone tell me how to sim different runes on my weapons? or is there a summing guide somewhere i missed?

[modest condor]

use might and gore

[elder vessel]

but its a normal brand

[olive wraith]

Just macro might to rek

[oblique trail]

Gore is a strength trinket so it will always be great in AoE, on top of crit being better in AoE compared to ST

[olive wraith]

Then you won’t be to worry about on use

[elder vessel]

i do already

[glad coyote]

im running brand heroic levl and might max

for m+

[elder vessel]

yeah i somehow just dont have a heroic brand so

[spare otter]

Is might off gcd?

[oblique trail]

There's an option in the consumables section of the sim options at the bottom, otherwise you can find simc inputs for advanced sims somewhere that'll compare all at once. But realistically, you should just use Hissing runes

[oblique trail]

yes

[olive wraith]

Most trinkets are

Afaik

[spare otter]

Wow I'm dumb

[frail prism]

thanks! appreciate it

[acoustic furnace]

Keep in mind brand is only good if your tank pulls constantly to keep stacks up. Is also bad in dungs w a lot of RP.

[past pivot]

Signet is great this week. Tyr-Spiteful

[oblique trail]

#fury message here if you're really curious

You input your standard /simc above this in an advanced sim

[acoustic furnace]

yeah I run a heroic brand in everything regardless of the week bc I usually have some solid tanks to run with

At 15 stacks it doesn't matter that its ST only. That shit SMACKS

[oblique trail]

At 15 stacks it does AoE though

[naive summit]

is it better to make a 486 crafted piece and spend the 60 aspects, or is it better to get a 476 crafted piece and then use aspects to upgrade other gear. how would i sim for this?

[acoustic furnace]

Does it really?

[oblique trail]

Read its tooltip

[acoustic furnace]

How did I not know this

Woyer brain we Zug first and read later

But now it makes sense that I wasn't struggling to use it on MT lol

[oblique trail]

You can sim it in gear compare

Or alternatively, if you already have the crafted item at a lower ilvl then you can check in top gear by putting 90 aspects crests at the top then pick the different options based on what you want to upgrade, by pressing the "+" on items

[unreal onyx]

I am 2x 486 1x 476 gamer rn

but I will upgrade my cloak this week propably

[coarse nest]

I’m at the point where all my myth pieces are maxed and I currently have 30 aspects sitting, so my plan for this week is to either get a myth weapon and upgrade to full along side a 486 ring, or otherwise if I do not get a myth weapon I’m going 2x 486 ring

But that’s me feely crafting

Simming will give you the highest number like ban said

[calm mantle]

Hey guys, how decent is pip for m+

Currently running Crab and sandglass.

[past pivot]

Keep CRab, keep farming ToT for a Might

[unreal onyx]

pretty mid, I would guess crab + sandglass is better

[frail prism]

worked perfectly....and dual hissing was the answer anyway. but not by a ton.

[calm mantle]

Sim says Pips is 2k over sandglass.

[modest condor]

pip is one of the best trinkets for m+

[calm mantle]

Pip is like 4th on the list I think for bloodmallet.

[past pivot]

But you want a Might.

[acoustic furnace]

I miss anvil 😦 brand is just a worse version of it

[pallid wing]

hey guys, is it worth simming for dungeon slice or always patchwerk?

[fading sky]

brand is better than anvil 100%

[acoustic furnace]

Only because of scaling lol

[fading sky]

nah

the % it does is way more stable

like WAY more

[inland flame]

OH MY GOD BLIZZ JUST ANNOUNCED TROLL HERITAGE ARMOR

[fading sky]

U TROLLIN

[acoustic furnace]

Anvil doesn't kill the user and can do AoE before max stacks

More pug friendly

[glad coyote]

who cares just give me my lego now

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gif-22712392

[past pivot]

Anvil was middling at best

[acoustic furnace]

Nah I loved my anvil I want it back

OCE can eat a weenie though I hate stat sticks so much

So boring

[ember apex]

nvm

bad comment

[coarse nest]

Not me bro, I’ll take two passive trinkets with + 2000 str & mastery

[pallid wing]

which should be better for m+?

[fading sky]

i mean anvil deffo is the worst trinket imho ever, at least brand is very consistent DMG wise in raid

in RAID

not keys

dammit

[coarse nest]

Currently not true, fury apl is not optimized for aoe** yet its being worked on though

[acoustic furnace]

Nope gimme more buttons to press so the visual effects can hit me w that sweet sweet dopamine spike

[ember thunder]

do you wait for OF if recklessness comes up ? if so, how many seconds at max? like 10 seconds?

or just press it if enraged?

[vague sand]

fated raids

[pallid wing]

thanks

[hollow ridge]

about fucking time

waiting on this shit since bfa

[vague sand]

oh wait its not new patch, its just 10.2 + fated raids

[calm mantle]

I've been trying for might for weeks :c

Still no augury either.

[wild mural]

timerunning is when you try to timewalk twice at the same time

[past pivot]

I feel your pain. But it is worth it.

[calm mantle]

Use pip between or give it up to a healer?

[past pivot]

Or against a timer, which woud be cool. Chain pulling.

[wild mural]

you didnt get the meme

[vague sand]

xd

[coarse nest]

If your guild cares about its overall performance they would give items to the correct people

[ember thunder]

do you wait for OF if recklessness comes up ? if so, how many seconds at max? like 10 seconds?
or just press it if enraged?

[vague sand]

send it brother

[eternal sundial]

TROLL BEARD WHEN

[coarse nest]

Taking a trinket to “get by” is an L move knowing you’ll replace it the second you get the chance

[past pivot]

Wait 3 more minutes then ask again. Or search if no answers.

[coarse nest]

In organized raiding anyway

[eternal sundial]

Rather delay reck to sync with ava than hold of

[coarse nest]

If pugging fuckem

[ember thunder]

thx lads

[vague sand]

you should be enraged pretty much 24/7

[coarse nest]

[vague sand]

just send avatar with reck

send OF afterwards

[ember thunder]

its not about avatar and reck, its about waiting with OF for avatar and reck

[vague sand]

avatar casts a small OF, if OF isnt up but avatar is then send avatar with reck then send OF whenever it comes up

[ember thunder]

In a normal scenario Im about 15 seconds ahead with OF compared to reck and avatar, thats why I was asking. Thanks for the awnsers

[hollow ridge]

PREACH BROTHER

[ember apex]

undead male need full upright form

[vague sand]

Yeah, just send avatar and reck together and send OF on CD

they line up at some point again where you send reck and OF then Avatar

depends on BB crits and if u get many or not

[tepid scroll]

Is idol + Augury a good combo for AOE?

and M+

or would might be better

[eternal sundial]

Might + augury is a banger thing

[ripe stump]

Anyone got suggestions/guesses/wishes for Slayer and Colossus?

[eternal sundial]

Crafted idol is okay ig

[past pivot]

Might and Augury are BIS for M+

[eternal sundial]

Cant say bis

[tepid scroll]

Might and Razan if you don't have signet yet yeah?

[eternal sundial]

Brand can be better than either of the 2

[tepid scroll]

for ST

Sorry augury and Razan

[eternal sundial]

Whatever sims best in st

[red yew]

About damn time

[past pivot]

Generally, Augury and Signet are considered best for ST. Rezan is also very good. For MT, Might and Augury are usually considered the best pairing. Signet can work in M+ if the tank chain pulls or on Spiteful weeks so you keep stacks up. Some other worthy contenders as well.

[vocal igloo]

where does execute and/or sudden death fall in the priority list? according to wowhead it's below rampage/bb; but that would mean we're not using SD proc half the time

[modest condor]

correct

i love getting an sd proc during my opener and just watching it disappear

[clever belfry]

sick design

[modest condor]

spec into improved rb just so it doesnt happen

[coarse nest]

10/10 would do opener again

[late ivy]

might/rezan or might/signet brand for m+?

[spare otter]

Noooooo

I don't wanna do DF raids

[past pivot]

Any other trinkets? Might and Signet though have to be careful about stacks dropping off

[late ivy]

i also have mirrors

[spiral orbit]

so is it confirmed all of the m+ next season are the 8 DF dungeons?

no old dungeons?

[frozen tartan]

No Warrior rework

[fleet torrent]

how much vers should i aim for ?

[ember apex]

sim ur gear

and compare options

[low folio]

you will probably end up with more than 10% for sure

when you get geared up

[vague sand]

ill kms if I have to run uldaman again

[low folio]

honestly i also didnt like a few of the DF dungeons

[spiral orbit]

uldaman, hoi, nokhuud, neltharus all terrible

brackenhide good, ruby good, academy goated

and i guess azure id put mid

[desert cloud]

Same

[low folio]

ruby gave me sensory overload when i first did it with thundering. so many swirlies and trying to get used to thundering at the same time.

also ruby in pugs on the second boss made my head hurt sometimes

[fading sky]

i mean RUBY ended up being an awesome dungeon imho

after the balancing

and i miss Seasonal affix ( NOT THUNDERING )

[coarse nest]

Surely they won’t do all 8 DF dungeons with a fated seasonal affix

[clever belfry]

all 10*

[coarse nest]

10 are not real

[vale coral]

How close is arms in relation to fury? close or nah (for m+)

[low folio]

i prefer seasonal affixes over regular affixes. but thundering was a dumb affix

[coarse nest]

We don’t talk about DOTI

[clever belfry]

itll be 10

[coarse nest]

It will though you ain’t wrong

[summer quail]

Pretty close

[vague sand]

in M+ damage-wise they arent too far apart.

[vale coral]

I have 2 decent 2 handers now but i enjoy arms way more.

[fading sky]

al depends

are we talking higher keys or lower

[vague sand]

Fury has more survivability tho

[jade trench]

so if i did a heoric fryaak today and got a essence instead of leggo. can the leggo still have a chance of dropping the same week on a lower difficulty?

[vale coral]

w/e you considers 20s to be

[fading sky]

no

[past pivot]

no, sorry

[fading sky]

if u are just playing in 20s

arms is just fine

[vague sand]

both are good, very similar

arms more squishy

it was very aparent last week on bolstering

[low folio]

i did not get leggo either today 😦 i am happy that pugs on tuesday clear the raid super quickly so i dont have to be unhappy for long

[vale coral]

which fury build would you recommend for m+ annihilator or cold steel?

[low folio]

what?

[fading sky]

both ?

😄

[low folio]

you take both those talents when you take annihilator

[fallen ginkgo]

you even take it with s2 tier set :))

[vale coral]

oops i def did not mean to type that like that

lmfao

[fallen ginkgo]

at least CS

[vague sand]

we run both

[pseudo carbon]

Depends on tierset

[vague sand]

choose between annihilator and annihilator

[vale coral]

yea pretty sure i just diagnosed myself with dyslexia

ignore me

Anyone got a whirlwind wa i can snag real quick? 🙂

[clever path]

Random questions, do you guys play any alts? if so, whats your favorite

[vale coral]

all my alts are plate wearers, that way i can get plate mog i might of missed on my main 😄

[rich flame]

monk and mage

[fallen ginkgo]

i play enhance

[inland flame]

I have a cat rn that's pretty fun

[rich flame]

Dk is also pretty decent

[inland flame]

Really like energy classes, might gear out an Outlaw or sumn

[vague sand]

I play a hpally

[clever path]

i was thinking elemental, but i dont want to get bored of it after putting in time

[past pivot]

It varies from expansion to expansion. All 12 are 70 and vary from 460 ilvl to like 423.

[rich flame]

It's less direct in damage if that's what you like

[clever path]

same, tho i dont have a priest anymore

[clever path]

i just like the animations mostly lol

[past pivot]

Helpful around this time so I can farm Greench for the saddle

[rich flame]

You need some mini setups which can feel slow sometimes , also you'll be so mad if the tank likes running around for no reason because earthquake

[inland flame]

Yeah stuff like that just reminds me of old Ravager

Rain of Fire, Blizzard, Earthquake, etc

[flat sapphire]

they have infiltraded ogrimmar

[rich flame]

Ground based aoe specs can feel very frustrating if you pug most of the time

[clever path]

yeah ele would mostly be for raid, as M+ can be quite hard as any ranged

[rich flame]

Everytume the tank moves out of my DND i wanna rage quit

You literally lose all your aoe for 45 sec as fdk

[south kayak]

Fuck special items

It’s enough there are trinkets to farm

[inland flame]

Guys I've got bad news

Box was dogwater

[south kayak]

And these assholes have the audacity to make special on hit items that are not trinkets

[inland flame]

At least I didn't have myth pants already

[south kayak]

Morons

[rich flame]

at least u can fall back to sockets this early in expansion

[inland flame]

I think I take myth pants since mine are hero

[south kayak]

Why is the game so annoying

[rich flame]

sure then this s actually a decent vault

[unreal onyx]

is wago.io just using a insanely shit provider

or am I just the issue

it doesn't load half the times I wanna get to a WA

[plucky ice]

its slow

[covert blaze]

next week for sure

[coarse nest]

[unreal onyx]

it's not slow it just doesn't load at all

i have a tab open for 10min and it is still loading

[rich flame]

Came across a Ret in lfg the dot component of his weapon made up almost 10% of his dps

Probably partially cause he sucked but still

[wild mural]

f

[clever path]

im conviced that blizz gives the leggo to lesser players to try and get them on par with everyone else

[past pivot]

Not true. I'd have it by now

[wild mural]

Not true id also have it by now

[clever path]

but youre a good warrior!

[subtle lagoon]

This isn't just leggo, it's all loot in general. Lesser players always get loot.

[sullen wagon]

Conspiracy watch is on you brother

[true sapphire]

Yes, I am also living proof that statement is not true.

[plucky ice]

gray parsers have account with BLP built in

[true sapphire]

I am dog shit and still have 473/460 weaps

[plucky ice]

[rich flame]

i approve, the worst player in my guild got it day 1

[wild mural]

So if I never get it I can claim I’m the bedt

[true sapphire]

Correct.

[wild mural]

Wooo time to never kill fyrakk again

[south kayak]

Woo

Dagger isn’t dropping

Kill me

[rich flame]

from the looks of it the dot component is by far better than the active effect

[charred estuary]

I don’t see any pins about it

Do we know how the leggo dot interacts with warrior abilities yet?

[rigid stirrup]

i'm going brand + augury for keys this week yolo

[rich flame]

i think there's a wowhead post about it

[charred estuary]

I’d imagine it’s just meat cleaver and not things like ww/of

I saw a wowhead post for dk but not warrior

[tacit crag]

Pretty sure I saw a gif of warrior ww and it applied dot to everything ww hit

[charred estuary]

Oh wow

[rich flame]

yep

and it sucks to be a dk unless they fix it cause

u can only apply it with obliterate one by one, not even the cleave applies it

[tacit crag]

Pretty sure it's only frost dk that has no aoe application

[rich flame]

[plucky ice]

is council enrage 8min

bro our dps is lit

[sudden tusk]

BACK TO FATED RAZAGETH

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-puke-vomit-barf-gif-14913512

[summer quail]

FATED DATHEA

[hasty path]

Echo lmao

[clever path]

i kinda want to start a new wow account so i dont have to look at my alts and be tempted to play them rofl

but then ill have to buy the game again

[rich flame]

not as nearly as convenient for udk and bdk too, like udk doesnt dnd ss until very late into their combo

[viral maple]

Raz is cool 🙂

[eternal sundial]

Fated kurog on arms

My beloved

[unreal onyx]

we are big gaming

dead todaytm

[modest condor]

already dead on my screen

[hasty path]

Don’t be like us and get sub-20 then wipe 20x in a row without getting back there

(We killed in 130)

[unreal onyx]

we were at 20% with 86 pulls

[hasty path]

Tbf they did also just nerf it

And it needed it

[oblique trail]

They nerf it and brick WA's again

Hate blizzard

[spark osprey]

fml I have a difficult decision to make, I am told that the spiked counterweight is not wort at all right

[pliant fulcrum]

crab is obv choice right?

[past pivot]

Yes

[pliant fulcrum]

gracias

[spark osprey]

these are my options q.q

[modest condor]

block for m+ or just take socket

[hardy timber]

Might of the ocean good ja ?

[modest condor]

in m+ yes

[hardy timber]

Nice

[fading bane]

thas fucking doghsit lmao

[fading sky]

socket

[pliant fulcrum]

apparently crab isnt that good for me so say sims 😮

[unreal onyx]

not for us yet

[clever path]

my vault has been shat all season

no weps or trinkets in vault

[hasty path]

EU?

[unreal onyx]

yes

[hasty path]

Get that pre-nerf kill 💪

[unreal onyx]

so we might get it still with WA

(i hope so)

[unreal onyx]

ofc rezan + branch will sim better than crab in ST

[pliant fulcrum]

ok, so should I not grab crab?

[covert void]

crab is a m+ trinket

[fading sky]

crab is decent in M+

that about it

[past pivot]

More than decent

[fading sky]

ye its a great M+ trinket

ok

😄

[olive wraith]

Let’s go finally got a hero track off hand

[cosmic adder]

socket third week in a row gaming

[runic pine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755924725372551261/1186754783940444271/image.png?ex=65946685&is=6581f185&hm=6ab7665dc0da446cda4c893ca4d6ab4e1ccf68429bbcc78b25818a59d6ab3b70&

this vault is poop

[fading bane]

helm good (unless u have it)

[runic pine]

I don't

it's really the only option

[fading bane]

helm makes ur enchant do more dmg too

[runic pine]

I was just hoping for once....a weapon would show up

[mossy fox]

nothing wrong with max ilvl helm

biggest stat budget slot too

[chilly fractal]

I bought my max ilvl helm with a socket

[runic pine]

a 700 dps upgrade bump no feel good

[fading bane]

thats like the avg vault tho

[shell jackal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/66qPCCNkq2TVZcR5gcKbxR

I'm simming Patchwerk +5 targets for Igira, is that right or dumb? it's also telling me might / butcher's block over augury & signet brand/rezans (of which I have both)

[fading bane]

unless wep or insane trinket

[shell jackal]

i'm probably simming it wrong because i have no clue how to sim so many different options

[fading bane]

sim st

and use that

u press OF and adds are dead

[rigid stirrup]

or check the logs of the top 100

and see what they use

[shell jackal]

i use the MT build on the fight, though

[fading bane]

you use DR

[shell jackal]

oh i could prolly do that too. fuck. i'm actually dumb as rocks

[unreal onyx]

igira is a 5T fight for like literally 5s at a time

[fading bane]

ww talents if u got shit dmg

[fading bane]

less

[rigid stirrup]

like after first month you can literally just check logs for everything

[shell jackal]

OF lines up perfectly with every spears, every other spears is full blast

i'm on about mythic btw, idk if that was a given or not

[rigid stirrup]

what I do is I usually use OF first and hold roar/avatar till spears come out

[misty helm]

Whats the take for incorp week?

[red dirge]

Im simming i currently have have brand and gnarlroot trink but its saying the crab from my vault is an upgrade would two non on use be fine idea??

[rigid stirrup]

for max pad and can just focus boss while dot does the work

[fading bane]

nothing, cus u aint doing shit

[rigid stirrup]

its a run your own key week

[misty helm]

damnnnnnn ight

[shell jackal]

yeah that's my play too. reck/OF to start hitting boss, first spears avatar/DR, then OF on them every single time they pop. every other spears i'll get ava/DR back again.

[oblique trail]

If you really want an option, Shattering Throw kills incorps

Otherwise let other people deal with it

[runic pine]

I'm probably just salty cuz I do literally one 18 on my DK and lo and behold https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755924725372551261/1186753568229818479/image.png?ex=65946563&is=6581f063&hm=0486e7a34b870ee5de948bcb8008f1edd22f7008caa24c006e79c6ca6ec51e86&

[oblique trail]

Or just fear/CC chain them if no one is doing anything

[runic pine]

myth track gorehowl

[open prairie]

get the wep off gnarlroot

[cosmic adder]

alts dont struggle

[open prairie]

skill issue clearly

[oblique trail]

Had wep since week 1 but just downhill since then

paying for my sins

[open prairie]

helm ig is biggest 489 tier piece

since enchant

[runic pine]

I tried, lost it to a blood dk

[open prairie]

who tf

gives a tank a wep

over a dps

[shell jackal]

last vault was augury not sure what i want out of vault tbh. either myth track rezans/might, or myth track tier legs

[misty helm]

Myth Rezans sounds nasty

[runic pine]

honestly blizz is just makin me pay for this

[shell jackal]

still don't have it

[shell jackal]

[red dirge]

is porcelian crab any solid for raid?

[open prairie]

ngl dont people forget augury has no mainstat

[spare otter]

Augury>leggo

[oblique trail]

It has no mainstat but crit is still fine and the proc goes hard

[runic pine]

it still sims highest

[oblique trail]

Although Rezan/Brand still beats it in pure ST

[open prairie]

my thoughts when i use drogbar rocks on my poop alts

[runic pine]

brand stupidly RNG though tbf

[oblique trail]

I wouldnt know!

I only got an lfr brand!

[shell jackal]

so if you had your pick of trinkets, what ones are you running on ST fights and what ones on multi-target/aoe? i know M+ is augury/might

[spare otter]

Brand always outdps my 489 rezans tho

[misty helm]

😄

[shell jackal]

but i've been simming trinkets for 30 minutes and doing it all wrong

[open prairie]

my rat dh has drogbar rocks at 437 as #2 or 3 damage

[shell jackal]

so i'm asking the gamers

[open prairie]

on st

[red dirge]

thoughts?

[runic pine]

aug/brand ST, aug/might anything else

[fading bane]

fucked up

[open prairie]

crab good in dungeons

[runic pine]

aug+might better

[open prairie]

true

[fading bane]

just did 30 hours of fyrakk hc intermission knock practice

fyrakk about to get rolled on mythic

[red dirge]

shoulld I take crab

[oblique trail]

You just leap it 😎

[open prairie]

idk

[fading bane]

knock the adds bro

[runic pine]

at least I got a fatty neck on my monk, just in time to start exploiting WW DPS

[oblique trail]

oh

was about to say

[open prairie]

benzai how should i feel knowing 463 pips on a dh loses to a 437 drogbar

by 4k

[fading bane]

is there another knock? except when birb land

[oblique trail]

pips fuck suck

[shell jackal]

bro is pumping

[oblique trail]

only loser classes like pips

[past pivot]

Just did a Rise. No deaths but what a terrible set of affixes. Yuck

[shell jackal]

i dont even have one alt at the level required to do 18s yet, how do you have 3