#fury
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HT can trigger SF and idk about IE
Corrupting rage on Smolderon... 
Top graph is debuff time of Corrupting rage (no bonus crit, and taking ticking dmg from dot). Bottom graph is debuff-time of Ignited Essence the dmg. amp on Smolderon. I never thought i would say this, but damn that flask is shit on that fight.
I checked 5 logs now, and the debuff uptime is pretty consistently just around 1:30, 3:00, 4:40 and 6:20 give or take 5-10 sec on each.

I thought our vers pots were the way always
Corrupting Rage got a lot better in 10.2, but Vers is still very competitive - the actual value can vary though depending on how crit you do/not have
i was thinking about using corrupting because after 2 nights of prog i never died or was close to.. so figured i might as well go all-in.. but im not sure its worth
Guys please dont say sim whats general stat prio for fury atm
I have been changing weapon buffs but forgot about flasks
it's because Corrupting Rage is based on damage taken, and most of it comes out during that intermission
I dont understand how you guys blast so much
Ah yeah indeed
I looked at our prog logs - and peoples corrupting rage flask was actually proccing earlier - but thats because they stand in so much shit ahaha
when we have "clean" pulls, they will probrably also procc during intermissions
I‘ll just stick with vers for prog. Easy DR and barely a effective dps „loss“
You could try to game it out, so that it triggers, runs through the 15s lockout, and then leaves you with a larger health buffer before running out again, but it's probably not worth tbh - especially considering you have full CDs for each of those periods, you don't actually get as much value from the crit flask at that point even if it weren't down
next level degen prog parse things 😄
macro corrupting rage to cds
😄
I'm still undecided about spear / roar on smolderon prog. Archi why did you end up using roar?

hehe
Yoink it for later✌️
How can the flask be simmed?:)
Sharing is caring
There is simulationcraft for single target best in slots but is there the same for the best theorical M+/multi target bis ?
I posted a mythic nymue kill at log-reviev channel if someone mind spit my mistakes to my face please
#449510248579858432 is probably the better place
Yeah i posted there already ty
If you really dont want to sim, aim for 25% Haste > Mastery Untill 50-60% > Vers > whatever for single target
I was told by a reliable source that im trolling and a majority of my logs is rng - do not be discouraged
Reck proc rng go crazy
On one hand you get to spam rampage-bb
On the other you slam-bt-ww-bt
True the reck proc is actually massive right
like in theory you could have perma until your next reck
played with another fury warrior recently; they got 21 reck activations on volcoross and I got 11 
was easier with old tier (my alt war)
stupid question, our prio is BB>RAMP>EXEC? always or execute is higher below 35%?
I got 11 in my 99 log lol
Man I could be rank 1 with 21 reck procs smh
Dogshit rng class
this is all skill wdym
not even r1 log btw
I did 2 mill less dmg with 20 more casts of BB than you what?
smolderon
Ohh
is someone able to help me? raid wise i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong and would like advice if possible
🤷♂️
Wrong fight lmfao
post a log and we can help out
Haven't done smoldy yet
adir is my warrior
in mythic gnarl where i was running aoe
i feel like i'm missing something or fucking a part of a rotation
id BC on that boss
i feel like i need different gear raidwise
shockwave is just plain wrong
you also just avatar first time in the fight at 1:20
???
i usually avatar 4 seconds after i pop odyns that was probably a bad example there
well technically 5
You can be lazy and just do the macro
you pot the dam amp but cuz of your whack holding u dont have any dam for it
kiltime is horrid
its about 1k dps loss
i feel like i'm running secondary stats wrong but i am unsure honestly
double enchant text my eyes
Ooooh bro
you're using whirlwind during your opener cds when there are no adds yet as well
yeah i fucked one of my addons up lol
it really is haha haven't upgraded them yet as they were champ
it should be something i'm fixing on reset now
but main fix is run dancing blades and bc, drop swave for 2nd slam dam point n stuff and dont delay ur cds that weirdly
But yea work on what Phil said tbh
That's where you'll see a big increase in dmg
i feel i was going wrong in several departments in that fight yeah
i feel like the talents i was running wasn't right either
if anyone had any tips for that one
isnt that what phil just wrote
Bro in my gnarlroot reclear I popped everything on 2 adds and then 10 seconds later it was damage amp
Good morning kings
yeah mb lol
I was amazed by my stupidity
I actually just did this exact same thing for some reason last week. my brain got real smooth
I sent about 3 seconds of deathmark+kingsbane on fyrakk before he flew away on prog 🤷♀️
We all be making smooth brain mistakes sometimes
thanks phil that has helped me alot
Tell your raid to go single target you’ll be fine.
that's what i hope for hahaha i'm still learning and want to learn completely
when the big add comes i wish 😭
is it the raid trinkets that i want with a gurantee?
i feel like 2 intermissions kills can be okay but ours got 2nd intermission once on 1% at which point its ass
damn you held ur first avatar for 1:19?
You're a demon
i don't understand how i managed it 😭 for that fight
the struggle is real
i also imagine my dps
^ me when im aug juiced
in my head im top dps

also @eternal sundial for tindral is it usually an ST or a Aoe fight? i hold avatar until the roots come out usually but i feel like i'm just a dumbass for that one
tindral is very weird on hc and differs wildly on mythic
i personally pop reck of on pull and ava roar roots
and then for the 2nd set i hold of if its close
in p2 i send into shield and hope i cdr my OF enough to hit adds with it
same for p3
Same
i'm mainly trying to learn fury as i was cutting quite slack last season with mainly playing ret pally
ur alr not doing badly rotationally
just some awareness things talents/cds and ur chillin
the main focus was my cds i didn't see what i was doing there and wanted more insight
yeah my main focus atm is i'm heroic raiding
only just did my first mythic kill on sunday
you can alwase go to logs and check yourself
i do try to see where i went wrong i just wanted a second opinion if i could get one haha
as in you look at what other ppl do compared to yourself
ohhhh right i just have no idea how to use warcraft logs half the time XD
If roots don’t explode immediately
Bc of you 
In our raid roots disappear after 1sec lag spike 
thats it fuck fury I'm playing affliction
That's low mastery. To much crit and haste. Do you sim your upgrades or just pick random loot?
Hey peeps, not touched my warrior this tier but gearing some now...can/should I macro avatar into anything? i remember with recklessness last tier but yeah unsure how it looks now
nope
okay ty
im been a controller player
you can macro it for the opener if you really dont want to bother. Its a 1k ish dps loss to do so
nah fuck that, ty
Have you been able to sim it where Avatar OF overwrites normal OFs dot
Since apparently they're coded separately
ill see if i can find the sim i did
they are indeed implemented differently, but torment OF is 1.5% of total damage
Assuming 0 damage from torment OF, you are losing 200k damage in the opener. Thats a pretty minor loss if played like normal the rest of the fight
I cba doing a cast list to actually sim like that
which runes are people using for their weapons
I just use hissing
pretty sure hissing is just the only choice rn you really dont need a lot of haste or crit currently
Def hissing mastery is too good to pass up on Fury right now
what do you guys say is the % of legen enjoyers?
20%?
no one has it in my guild yet
and we are 6/9
so many token
our guild saw our first lego last week


20% is a wild number
no shot its more than like... 1%
or traffic in here would be way higher about it idk
think ive seen maybe 10 people talk about having it in this disc so far
and not every warrior is skyhold gigachatter and warr is also 1 of 3 classes that can get it but like, if it was 20% shit would be more common than augury probably
like ain no way rn
if this bad luck protection is any good well prob start seeing a lot more in the next couple weeks
Can i somehow sim fyraleth without haaving it??
can't win it if you ain't in it
Okay transferring now

My guild killed it Friday when I was at a work dinner
So I tried to pug it for a few days without success
Keep going king, you can do it
Ye
Can i sim the legendaary axe wihtout having it?
bc the raidbots thingy is just a placeholde
r
there's the real thing also
Huuuh
Wha- it wasn't there i swear!
you're right, it has been added now just for you
Why are we playing fury over arms on Smoldy? Self healing or the burst windows in intermission?
496
bc it's more fun
i dont even have a reason to play arms lmao
I liked wrongpinion
cloak is the consensus best place for shadowflame embellishment?
yes assuming you get mythtrack gear
doing the quest to kill fyrakk gives u 476 crest
can the legendary drop on normal ?
yes
after hc clear ... a normal clear wont give any legendary badluck items or ?
or a legendary from fyrakk
correct
You can get 2 free enchanted wyrm crests so it was more efficient to use those on crafts and prioritize upgrading your other items
Generally using aspects on crafted gear early is kinda bad compared to upgrading normal gear. Only people who really did it right away were people that use toxic patch combos since the ilvl weight was all in one embellishment.
you get one from fyrakk where do you get the second one?
Although a lot of people are probably to the point where you 486 your crafted stuff by now.
Emerald dream renown
"we" crafted 2x 476 at beginn because we got them both free from reknown 20 + fyrakk quest .. also 3rd item was kinda cheap due to i (and others) dont need anymore the wyrm crests .. only bottleneck for me from now on are the aspect crests
i see
yeah on my main i immediately upgraded my crafted cause i used the toxic thing
so i assumed other classes do too
warriors dont wear toxic leather stuff
yeah but shadowflame is somewhat of an equivalent
at least thats what i thought
now i knowbetter
except for those of us who fucked up crafting a ring and can't put the flavour pocket on it because we picked the hourglass ring
those people are -idiots- and are totally behind now
not that i'd know anything about that
yeah idk but embelish itemlevels feel weak for warr..
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mVazVRMJ1KNUKDicktAyM1
~ crafting 486 is same dmg than upgrading a 483 to 489 or 476 to 483 on mainstatt slots ... and those upgrades costs half the crests amount 😄
~ around 1k dps depending on item and slot
hourglass
It’s not updated
You can use it for minor things like overcapping rage
Or like if you’re not using a cd as much as you should
but it’s not gonna tell you how to do the new tier rotation properly
very curious if i trust raidbots when it tells me that a higher ilvl auguary is worse then an accelerating sandglass
you must need haste lol
Then it’s prob right
is 25 still the goal atm?
As a very general rule of thumb, ye
prob very low haste
augury should never be simming lower than sandglass
I just had a glimpse of the future, I see us kings getting the axe in about 3 hours
yea i just assumed it would always sim higher thats why i thought i would ask
is 200k in a thrones low for 479?
if you time it you probably did fine
depends on how your tank pulled but you should be shitting on the ret on st
tot is one of the best to pad on the small adds
I would guess even at slightly lower ilvl you could get over 200k with not too many issues
it was on a 20
its solid
arcane mage is a odd choice
a true gamer
If you didn't die a lot and timed it you probably did fine.
it fucks me up all the time, the damn shield
I wasn;t paying too mcuh attention but I think it wasn't by much if I was.
You can go back and check boss damage
I didn't die at all, over all we had 2 deaths till the last corridor.
servers down.
Same gear dungeon spec fury should slap dungeon spec ret on bosses.
oh shit forgot about it lol
I mean my trinkets are ass and Im still missing myth weapons :c
Well not ass but not BIS by any means.
never compare dps in m+ outside of your group ^^
too many variables going on to make a good comparison
Obviously relative gear counts, but rets have to choose between good st and good cleave in a way we really don't.
whelp my alt....... 
Oof
I'm using a 470 sandglass and a Porcelain
🦀
sad
better than nothing
true, tho my vaults stacked this week, first week with a 20 vault. I 20'd all dungeons this week. and full heroic raid.
Best we can do is cloaks and bracers
Yep let me just replace my crafted real quick
this will make all augury hunters sad me included
whats your haste lmao
15

damn thats low
speaking of haste is there any "minimum required" for baseline? maybe 35% or 40%
i have alot of crit mastery vers
no just sim
sim it, but ive seen anywhere between 15 and 40
I find as you follow your sim by equipping the gear it says is best your stats kind of fall into place
idk it sounds bad but it actually plays quite well
if ur wrists hurt a lot from pressing buttons it aint too bad
I mean I dunno if that is possible but... what if Haste reduced to 15% but sim said it's positive gain because you gain other stat? XD
yeah I simmed a ring and it was a 2.3k dps increase and it was a 1k crit ring didn't think it'd be that huge.
How would you sim what runes i should use??
You can change the runes in the sim settings
down where you choose lenght of fight
all those trinket options, theres one for runes
Ty!
both of those things yea
My mastery is kinda low 59% w hissing runes so that's prob why I need them
not by much tho, either hissing or buzzing would do it
Friends and foes, I have a question. I just came back to the game and didnt spend any resources on anything (sparks, crests etc.) can you please tell me what do I craft and upgrade first? I ve been looking around and it seems everybody regrets something they did in a hurry. So please guide this brother of yours rightfully.
Craft embellishments first. For Fury it's shadowflame cloak and allied Wristguards.
Some may say weapon first but I think it's better to craft embellishments bc they won't be swapped out later.
Do we get 4th spark this week?
29% crit
25% haste
60% mastery
22% vers
yes
Yes
I need more Vers man
maybe two embelishments and 2 rings
Tho not many things to use it on tbh if you’re just playin the game
i wouldnt craft wep, just farm one out
^^
same lets go 
Tbh while it’s generally cringe to craft a weapon since there isn’t a precedent of crafted in half your slots is bis anymore you prolly can make a weapon
like this reset is 4 sparks so a weap and 2 embells plenty fine
not much else you’d rather spend sparks on than just getting regular gear yourself
tho ofc u can just do that with weapons
But weap big noticeable upgrade so better to have it sooner
Nah I think embellishments, vers/mas ring, and then a filler piece is the way to go rn.
whoa you even go as low as 25% haste.
It's not by choice...
Yea a ring would be the theoretical third craft most likely but past making a second ring for free socket if you’re unlucky not much else to fill
I would say its fine only for arms. You would still need to farm offhand. Also, doing 8s give champ track gear upgradeable to 476, which I assume is the max crest-wise he's gonna be able to get for a while. BY the time he's able to get aspects to craft a 486 wep he's prob got some hero track wep
I was thinking the same thing because i ve been so unlucky with the weps in s1-s2
I think champ is 9 not 8 but yea same diff
I was running 16s week one with a new character so it's def possible to get max crafted right off the rip if they're at least 450-460 ivl
that was first week when everyone was at around the same boat
now everyone is gatekeeping
Thats what guilds are for
having friends/guild to run with is like… astronomical to gearing new toons effectively tbh
even if youre good for a 15, people with 20ilvls more than u is applying to the same key
Guild is helping out I already did four 20s yesterday so imma be a big boy soon
Even if pugging 16s are a joke idk the people running those keys will still take someone that looks better than you especially if you’re like 460
See look max crafted and mythic vault this man is big chillin
Fr weapon out of vault inc
I'm just sayin' I crafted a 486 weapon with my first two sparks, and I've only gotten one weapon drop on the hero track so far this season lol. Making a weapon is a very reasonable play imo
Farm more
depends how many "chances" you get
ya I mean diff experiences for everyone always possible
well but youre behind on embelishments now
I’ve gotten like 10 weapons idk
We all getting augury tomorrow guys
if you raid mythic or fill your vault with 20s every week it is not that good of a investment imo
given plenty away
I was on the "You have to craft bis gear" boat on s1 and finished the tier with only a 415 weps so im afraid that would be the case again
I got 2 myth track weapons so far, maybe 2-3 hero tracks
only 1 myth 
0 mythic 😎
I mean just by nature of statistics a vast majority of players are not raiding mythic or filling thier vaults with 18+
which is important to remembe sometimes, imo
i could already call it quits gear-wise as I don't have an item that will bring me up imensely
No myth but I'm running heroic BiS in both hands so I'm happy enough
489 signet
got 483
but he is, so it kinda applies to him
496 augury
got 483
🤓
Yeah im getting huge help from buddies
Fair enough, I missed that part. I thought he was heroic raiding.
surely we kill smolderon finally today and I get signet 
I thought so too at first, but if he is doing 20s and potentially raiding mythic, even if first couple bosses, then I personally dont think its a good investment
isnt it better on dhs
idk
I saw crit crafted cloak and boat and a ring and that seems good to me
i dont play dh
cause they have that fire buff taelent
Prob both embellishments and a ring. 4th spark coul be whatever
Nono no fake news it's better on warriors for sure
do you use wowaudit
for loot council
It's literally short term gain versus a consistent, long term gain for the entire season. Shouldn't even be a question. Weps are a trap early on.
we send our ST sims and go from there
droptimizer?
We re on the same path here
Bro I gotta rig my sims
Absolute shitter behavior
You gotta enchant your augury
I feel like rezan oversims, but sim take an avg of runs so it is propably right overall still
but augury fucks heavy
But it ends up not mattering because before long you have more sparks than you know what to do with. If they were a finite resource what you say would be more true
Reason I ask is something like this I saw on Icyvein, if everything depend on sim then this rule not applied? exclude the strength since it's totally priority.
I tried to find where is the balance between this stat priority and sim?
Ye Fr
Yeah my mast is severely lacking
I feel Augury undersims relative to what I've seen in logs, but I don't have it myself so I'm not sure what/if that's a thing
I feel the same too
The dmg I see people's augury do is insane
in ST fights that are like 5min my augury is approx 7% of my dmg in the end
You missed where I said it's a trap "EARLY ON". Of course it doesn't matter late into the season. But we're not there yet.
but sims take like 5% or so idk
but augury is quite rare right
Stat prios like this are just a general guideline, you don't really think about it much since top gear and droptimizer will tell you what to pick up anyway
Augury is a very rare drop, yes
Yeah but minus 800 mainstat
I rolled a 1 on mine last week, was great
"very rare"
Compared to like rezans for example
ppl are prob not getting augury in big numbers till their guilds start extending and they full clear heroic to get max heroic vault slots
Rezans doing less damage from procs but your other shit is hitting harder
True
Rezans makes me sad I've done AD more than any other dungeon and it only dropped once for someone else who needed it.
I have the sandglass and mirror so I haven't cared too much to go farm Rezan lol
Rezans feels really mid to me tbh
Well I have Signet and Might now so I'm chillin
But shit I farmed so hard for it just to never get it.
I’d I been rocking rezans
idk how it compares with the dmg amp of smolderon
but I doubt it increases dmg THAT much
I feel like Augury will really shine in M+ and you're probably better off with something else in ST.
Depends on fight length
sim says 5.1% augury dmg, kill has 11.2% augury dmg
Signet uselsss if it’s sub 5min
Gnarlroot is aoe tgo
But on like fyrakk
Ofc it will have more dmg
Good damage from signet
gnarlroot?
Yes that's the log you linked?
Gnarlroot trinket never more than 3% for me
no?
How is branch for us? Seems like it would be good in mythic+ and on cleave fights in raid.
You comparing st SIM to an aoe boss fight
I am linking smolderon
I've been trying Gholak (1h fyrak) as prot and hits like a truck, could 2h leggo + 1h golak (Fyrak shadowflame proc wep) as offhand be a thing?
Forget everything I said
im comparing a 4min sim vs a 4min fight
both ST
It’s okay
sounds cursed but that shit hits really hard
I agree with you for the most progressed as they will get weaps from another source. but I think regular players doing 15s and only heroic raid follow the lists too blindly. Craft a bracer for hardly any gain when they could really boost DPS with a weapon and perfect their embellishments on later sparks
Yea idk I saw smolderon as gnarlroot for some reason lol
Mixing 1h + 2h is generally really cursed so I doubt it
yeah but its an offhand with a crazy proc
Vers/mastery ring is the way to go? All 3 of my crafts atm are haste/mastery.
this looks like season 2 stat priority
The proc isn’t that crazy
The 1h wep's damage would have to outweigh the raw stats of a 2h weapon
Branch does less dmg than signet for me even when I lose stacks all the time
you can literally sim
Gnarlroot will drop weapon today surely

1sec I will try
Might be interesting to see and should be plenty simmable but remember that it’ll proc roughly the same on dps or tank, and it will show up as a way higher% of your damage on a tank than a dps, cause you’re just doing less damage as a tank
Yeah that too lmao
fyralath is 496, correct?
Sim it. Stats on crafted pieces are different for everyone.
i'll get signet brand in vault, leggo from heroic and gnarlroot wep from mythic this week surely
same reason augury is like 8-10% of my dam when I play tank vs usually 5-6% on dps
I mean... they put it 10.2 label on the site, so yeah shrug if this is season 2 truly or updated to s3
¯_(ツ)_/¯

Good luck on the vaults today fellow single Brian cell enjoyers
true, but I can sim and try, I'll come back with just476 weapons as a "normal" test
May the odds be ever in your favor
So however big it’s “looking” on tank, compare the total damage it does not the % damage to a similar length fight as fury
How do u guys sim for m+/aoe???
My stats right now.
What time is reset again
Patchwerk 5T 1min
For the most part simming st normally should directly affect aoe the same way
but @modest condor is the priority now that much different? I felt like it is the same?
but multi target apparently “isn’t played right” according to big 4head m+er ma
Servers should be up now
vers jumped up a lot
I just sim ST lol. I feel like there are too many factors at play (affix, mechanics tnat will actually one shot you, etc.) in M+ for MT sims to be accurate
Some chatter was in here the other day saying the apl plays like shit in the aoe build so your results might be poor if you sim aoe.
Idk how true that is though

then we go to steak house
nice
kinda wish vers provided a bigger DPS boost than mastery. i like the defensive aspect of it for prog
everyone stacking vers would be lame tho
ty guys <333
You guys don’t run 20% vers?
Going to check my vault I'm all antsy

it's not playing around the new tierset yet, i did some work on it but archi was busy so he only recently had a chance to look at it
when de we know when to switch arms
But vers gives more if you think
I think with flask im at 25% vers
maybe will be fixed soontm
Thanks for the update! 
but you are also enraged 98% of the time
huge w
Still 2% kekw
dont have to blow cata charge on the mythic one
mastery also needs like half the amount of rating to get the same increase as vers
is it?
if your enrage uptime is lower than like 95% you're doing something very wrong lol
hoping for boots in my vault or belt
if no boots I will swipe my ethically farmed gold on the AH
It's augury or nothing
and buy myth boe
Tier I guess but I NEED A TRINKET>
If you have a myth helm already I'd take socket and then cata them helm and add the socket
ya i dont
holy moly thats a lot of tier
if i did i wouldnt be picking either helmet lol
Waiting on 3 wrists, 2 cloaks and a trinket I already have on vault
I'm being trolled I swear to god. Not a single myth weapon, No trinket No ring...
But myth helm is actually super strong rn bc the head enchant scales. Mine has been doing more damage than my double shadowflame embellishment.
HUH maintenance already done? they said 1 hour
it aint ever 1 hour
maintenance has been quick lately
Down bad on weapon 
kill gnarl
Whatcha running'
ez W
Oh that ain't so bad I'm in the same boat
I progged 6/9M with 476+450
Bro mythic gnarlroot wep is a 50 DPS increase for me
I ran doti 5 times yesterday going for heroic gorehowl, time to farm some more today
Broke 220k before bis weapons 
It took me 5 weeks to get mine so buckle up buttercup haha
need to run a plate daddy group
Lego/gnarlroot
there's a real possibility i loot lego before i break 200k 
gnarl isn't bis
I guess I'm taking myth tier chest. +6 item level ugprade after I upgraded my hero to 483 this week.
Gnarlroot Sims 50 DPS more than my 483 gorehowl tho
im simming 199.5k right now
huh

Honestly. Lego is kinda shit on ST. Damage is damage and rule of cool prevails, but you're not severely gimped if you don't get it.
how
skill issue
are vaults out already, i thought it was 11 EST regardless of maintenence?
true
They out and they disappointing
i have not simmed ST talents in a while tho lol

Maybe Lego/BRH wep
Because vers stacking
I sim 212k (champion boots and shit tier rings still lol)
Tier, tier and more tier.
I don’t worry to much I sim and play game 
483

wut
no windfury, no signet brand, no mythic weapons, i have like 40% crit



No catalyst charge this week correct?
Nope
Correct
Craft week
ty 🙂
at this point they should turn down the droprate of tier in vault
but it's ok
like they did in s2
we should get a consistent enhance shaman
and i get signet brand from vault tomorrow
and then i sim 215k
😦 no aug
Them boots tho...
is that with head enchant
yes
damn
That helm. Enchant scales with ilvl
I know I said that like 5 minutes ago I just want the boots bc they're BiS for me
If you don't take that ring
P nice
I cri
guys are two handed weapons unique equiped?
gorehowl is
Only certain ones
what about use Gholak first 10% then wep swap to a proper 2h
and just use the procs in the first part
can you swap weapons mid-fight?
y
then it propably depends how long 100-90% is
for the amount of procs
but that sounds insanely scuffed
How would two Gorehowl even work? Higher chance to proc bleeds or would it kinda be like double Geti'ikku was?
If myth weapon and hero augury are in my vault I def go augury ya??
I have allied wrists and shadow cape crafted what should I craft this week
wdym bleeds
it does more damage to demons
in brh and dht
gorehowl does nothing
and thats it
just more dmg to demons
I would go aug
unlike time strike
Either ring for free socket or filler piece on a weak slot
which can be stacked as well
the doti glaive has a bleed iirc
funny little game
It does more damage by producing a bleed on just demons doesn't it?
it doesn't proc anything
Warchief's Rend or sumn.
it's just flat more dmg to demons from what I understand
Which is irrelevant in the current raid so very cool
Nah its 100% a bleed that just procs on demons.
Can someone explain this sim?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6XdEnmuMKHEuHgbVKYjtyy
My 489 weapon sims lower in my main hand than my 486 weapon.
🤏 tertiaries
ur dropping the bsl by putting it in mainhand
move ur bsl mainhand to oh
still no myth track weapon BTW
I'm shocked that the 483 with Aug and Eye is simming lower ST than my 479 w Might and Signet. This supports my theory that crafted weapons are worse than crafting embellishments.
Is myth gnarl easy? I might try pug it.
yeah its the same as heroic basically
Very easy
Gnarl is a joke of a boss
yea very easy
Igira is kinda spicy tho
I don't even know the big diff to heroic
Easier than heroic tindral/fyrak even
same, thats why i said that lmao
No augury in Vault but did get my first weapon in it. So I'll have my 489 OH ready after I get axe and Augury in raid tonight ...
surely
Can’t wait for gnarl to drop 4 weapons tonight
its happened on heroic albeit w/ 30 ppl
I want the cloak (for tmog)
crafted gear is whatever sims best at this point yeah?
You get one branch and a bunch of leather no weapons for you
id say wep depending on what you have
but best to just sim it tbh
If you have BiS embellishments then yeah
We have a Ret and a DK surely they give me the fury my offhand that Lego won’t replace
whitefin axe sucks right?

myth
Ilvl will make it good
i mean stats on 2h are basically irrelevant b/c u can work around it
You just remove Crit elsewhere
Official Feedback Thread for Mountain Thane has some pretty bad takes.
yeah exactly
For Fury it's meh but it's damn good for Arms if you want it for off spec.
if you can have it 489 and don't have a 489 secondaries don't matter
can get a mythic upgraded helmet or a mythic whitefin axe. :/
simming so boring. but i guess i should with this
inb4 476 MH weap
Okay well yeah if you're running some shit like that take the weo
i always sim my vault. i got a terribad vault but i prob would have made a diff choice than this if i didnt sim:
Got me self the tot axe 489 finally
wep dps is important too. if it was another piece i'd prob take helm but wep could be much higher than helm even with enchant
I'm gonna open vault as fury ⚡
Pls bro is ab to get 4 1hs
results pl0x
I don't want no ducking two handers, my shaft these days can't even be two handed, yellow class ya feel
inb4 you open in fury and still get 2Hs
if the weapon was a different weapon i would have just instantly grabbed it but the crit haste of whitefin messes with my stats im betting. tuesday sims take forever
Open it as Prot
open as fury, gets leggo
doesnt frost open vault as Unholy now b/c they play 2h oblit?
I'll give you 11g if you open as Prot
lets start this cursed week right!
Heck I'm not home sorry to disappoint. I'll open around the time EU goes down for maintenance
im not home either i opened at work like a man
What are the affixes this week? Haven't checked yet
i believe spiteful incorp
Tyr-spiteful week boys. Get those Signets out for M+
Oh. Great. We're useless again.
spiteful 🤮
Spiteful again? Are you kidding me?!
My job keeps the PCs in a vault 🤷 show me how open on my phone
spiteful not that bad
u dont have 3k? werent u mocking my 2960 IO yesterday?
Incorp is bad tho. Gonna be dn near impossible to pug this week as warrior.
wasn't that the DH stan?
guess youll have to suffer through your own key
if the pc is on. you can use remote tools 🙂
im 2930, where's my place to judge
idk the way he was talking i thought he was like 3.3k or something
but he never posted his shit
he demanded mine i posted and he bounced
he claimed to be 3350
I'm 26,000 io ama
yes
he did?
ah ok
alright guys
remember this week is the week everyone gets their legendaries
meanie
bro went from that yesterday to this today
Lmfao

"pls don't say sim"
Should I run LFR to get my legendary now or wait for heroic clear later tonight to get my legendary then? Tough choice
"even if im 2k it doesnt change ur 2.9k" i never understood what he meant
meh vault, either gonna be boots or helm
Helm. Enchant scales with ilvl
it is annoying to sim every piece of gear if your gonna upgrade them anyways not too longer after
also my discord name is carlo and my wow char name is carlo and its easy to verify that way that i didnt just link some random raiderIO page
I had simmed it yet, I have 476 boots and a 483 hero tier helm already, so was leaning to the boots
You run lfr for lego.
I run lfr to autoattack my way to the top of the DPS meter while I play with my weenie.
We are not the same.
since enchant scales with ilvl
I did forgot about the enchant scaling
so with top gear, when i select multiple vault pieces that show up, it wont sim me in a way that it would put both vault options on my together would it
I have hero track fatty hooves, I can take up to 483
or if you're balling you buy myth boe boots
huge weap
Gonna proc the biggest bleed ever
Pls don't listen to this lmao fucking 1.5 mil for something farmable is genuinely insane
not if they are ballin'
farmable is a bit of a overstatement tho
myth track gear is not farmable
also they were 750k on my realm yesterday
there are people with with insane amounts of gold. thats why the myth boes sell for so high. for some that gold is nothing
it's not bc of the supply of gold
they're just very rare
as very few people raid myth
and then having a boe drop is even rarer
But got 600k for a hero hat w a socket the other day
I have gold cap on one character and halfway on another.
Still would never spend that much on some booties.
i mean if nobody had the gold to buy them, they would drop in price
Now taking donations so I can identify as balling and buy boots
what do you spend your gold on?
I think I'm going to just fill vault every week now till I get legendary, then start pushing again with the hype.
I always buy boe's with gold I have spare after I bought gametime
but lil break till then hm
My gold gets spent on repair bills
Mounts and the like
my GM made multiple goldcaps during DF launch doing crafting orders
He bought Fyralath mats on the first day 
Tempted to blow all my gold on the next long boi that pops up on black market
imagine if they nerfed
same. i just had my biggest dps increase vault yet and it was +1.4k dps or ~0.66% dps increase
I have like 1.5mil and I couldn't tell you what I would even want to spend my gold on atm
Spend it on me
that's the biggest vault ive had all season and ive had +20s in all M+ slots
I bid on stuff in the bmah as prices on my realm are somewhat low
but that's only a lil bit
Myth Crab was my biggest dps increase and itll prob just be replaced anyways once raid trinket? just haven't had either at all.
I got signet on our first hc kill 
Signet on heroic raid bosses kinda mid
Get a cool mount off of black market or something
they dont live long enough
I can’t complain I’ve been eating pretty good in vault
I already got plenty, well "cool"
The sim has ruled the myth track tier shoulders are 80dps higher than the myth track fatty hooves 
same meh
all my luck is in trinkets too. first heroic clear i got signet and augery
actually
they gave ours to ret pally b/c hes tankier and they wanted to gauge lethality
tankier? is that even true?
Different Myth tier piece every week and a socketed myth helm
according to first death stats from WCL they are yeah
like tankiest melee dps
I got myth track upgrades every week so far
we did it lads
all them vaults and i still have to wait 12 hours
I have myth Rezan and Crab and 0 raid trinkets lol
tankiest dps
Surely I’ll dodge the socket pick one more week
I've had one socket vault and the rest have been bangers ngl
overall

Sorry didn't mean to ping you carlo lol
poggers
all G
question is: what will you take
2 myh + 1 hc 3 20s
the augury
Myth weap and heroic Augury yuge
run hc
I have 489 gorehowl already
same boat as u brother
Ye I'm almost through tindral with a 483 wep and some extra sockets LEWL
you fill one slot, get myth weap and aug lol wtf.
I fill all 3, had 3 pairs of gloves last 2 weeks out of 6 slots, with myth gloves already xD
imagine you could take tokens in your vault and you could get a 2nd "charge" to take out 2 items in the next vault
that would be large
That be the roll of the dice
I really have this with a champion foot and helm. rnjesus is weird this season
Wonder how new dinar is gonna work
Leggo incoming for me in about an hr surely


Atleast my guild just started prog..
Wait so what has that changed?
that's gonna fuck us over for at least a day I guess
Now everybody has to learn to press a macro
Same as last time probably
same
Them reducing it to 3 people is pretty large though
Just annoying we have to learn the macro
so im talking in guild about it, why cant we yolo it
the WA shows the debuff duration really huge

The problem with yolo is all 3 will try to soak asap so they don’t have to think about kiting it at all
echo ptsd
You have to hard assign
The 3 orbs will make it much easier
Servers up?
3 orbs if you are fast you will never have orb dot dmg going into intermission
I do agree reducing to 3 makes it much easier


