fury

[ember apex]

i had to play the weird version of arms for mythic kurog prog

hated it

[clever path]

i see alot of people playing arms in raid

i mean

its a fun spec

[meager void]

I just ran with a friend quite capable in Arms and our feeling was that:
big pulls = Arms > Fury (as long as big pull dies fast and doesnt turn into small pull - which is often)
mid-small pulls = Fury > Arms (unless its precisely a sustained 2 target cleave)
1t = Fury >> Arms

[clever path]

its dysfunctional yes but its fun

[gentle terrace]

I'm pretty sure Fury is outperforming Arms in raid on all bosses except for Council, which makes sense.

[clever path]

are stats pretty close between fury and arms? or not at all

arms is crit haste fury is mastery vers

[ember apex]

there's very few hard dps checks so it's more important to focus on mechanics so if u only have so much mental capacity during a boss encounter it would make sense to be the easier one provided ur group isnt hitting a dps check wall

[clever path]

wait, are you saying arms is easier than fury?

[slim coral]

Rider of the apocalypse

[ember apex]

yeah....of course it is. lol

[slim coral]

Arms is so easy

[young swan]

they are both braindead

[slim coral]

4 button spec

[ember apex]

thats why ppl play it. less mental energy spent on optimization of dps

and u spend more on mechanics and stuff like that

[clever path]

oh damn, ive been out of the loop. i usually thought it was fury being the easier spec most of the time

[ember apex]

watching boss timers etc...

[young swan]

it is

[slim coral]

Fury is for the big brain wow players

[young swan]

they are trolling

[ember apex]

its not for big brain wow players

thats not what im saying

[young swan]

neither spec has any amount of complexity

[grave stone]

does odyn's fury remove the roots on mythic tindral ?

[slim coral]

And yet there’s still a large skill gap

[ember apex]

if u have 2 specs fury/arms and u have X mental capacity u go w/ arms to lessen ur mental burden and focus on the boss itself. it makes sense.

[slim coral]

[young swan]

thats because wow players are fucking stupid

[ember apex]

the only way its bad to do this if there's a hard DPS check and ur trolling ur guild by being low dps

[brisk talon]

Yes if you have the avatar talent to go along with it. A few weird times where it wouldn't break me out but those were few and far between

[ember apex]

but if ur dps is irrelevant, go arms and focus on doing the boss right and minimizing wipes

[brisk talon]

And you will spawn a treant from breaking the root

[clever path]

fury is a lot better for that

beyond tanky

[ember apex]

i disagree completely but thats ur opinion

[clever path]

spec

[young swan]

if onyl wouldnt break you out if you press early or if you have avatar lingering from the previous set

[mossy fox]

fury is definitely not big brain

[ember apex]

i never said it was

[grave stone]

yea that happened and i was wondering why

[ember apex]

the guy who said that

was trolling

[brisk talon]

It was probably avatar from earlier on the rare occasion

[gentle terrace]

nobody said u said it, he literally replied to a comment where that quote was aid lmao

[young swan]

yeah i had a cancel aura for that specifically but a quick change of cd's fixed it

[ember apex]

yeah but the dude was jokin'

[chilly harbor]

I see a lot of warrior not using shockwave anymore in M+, whats the reason?

[gentle terrace]

ok

[ember apex]

and ppl taking it one hundred percent serious

[mental hound]

isnt fury the hardest spec to play in the game?

[young swan]

yep

[harsh bobcat]

Yeah I go through like three keyboards a night

[ember apex]

the reason is that ur a dps and there's no point in padding stuns if ur not top dps. i take shockwave in M+ so i can be top stuns too

[clever path]

no point

useless in groups with aug

[clever path]

what

[inland chasm]

Could you elaborate?

[clever path]

will you double down on that statement?

[inland chasm]

Is it a DR thing?

[ember apex]

the reason u take shockwave is to pad on stuns once ur already top dps.

aka its another meter for u to be on the top of

[oblique trail]

1 blocked message

[ember apex]

if u dont have top dps spot u focus on that first

[clever path]

real

i mean you have vdh/prot pala aug dh/rog

[covert blaze]

I've been seeing this a lot today

[clever path]

why do you need shockwave

[oblique trail]

every group for sure has this setup

[young swan]

[meager void]

Shockwave + Intim Shout for keyzzles adds a lot of support stops.

[oblique trail]

If you're in a very coordinated group then Shockwaves value is probably not as high as it would be for your average players pug group

Even then Shockwave is still a good, short CD, AoE stun

[meager void]

but most groups have tons of stops anyways so

[clever path]

i mean what he said sounded like it was directed to coordinated groups / people pushing so they actually do stuns

in pugs you should take it absolutely

[young swan]

god forbid warrior players use their brains and think about the utility they need for the group they're in

[clever path]

you really aren't gaining anything by not taking shockwave

[meager void]

what is brain?

[young swan]

u gain like 2% damage or some shit

[ember apex]

its not as simple as this

[oblique trail]

I only copy paste what the top r.io warrior players log out in

[covert blaze]

my group doesn't need shockwave, don't take it in pugs

[clever path]

well there goes my shockwave nvm

[ember apex]

if ur consistently top dps in keys then u take shockwave

[clever path]

back to seismic + cruel

[ember apex]

if ur constantly second or third, then u dont and focus on damage

[young swan]

u wouldnt even take seismic

bait talent

dogshit

30% of 1 tick of ww

[clever path]

wdym

more aoe dmg

[young swan]

30% of 1 tick of ww

[plucky ice]

15dps talent lmao

[sullen basin]

Smolderon intermission starts just over 1m into the fight and my cooldowns come back up right at the end of it should I hold or just cry about it

[clever path]

19 more damage

[plucky ice]

yes

[clever path]

ez

[sullen basin]

still more damage than rets get from being in the wf group

[young swan]

go watch critcakes smolderon video

[covert coyote]

Pop CDs early and stand far back to drop your orbs

[ember apex]

this is approximately where most top parsing warriors are at 1min8sec when the knockback goes out

[clever path]

nah dont trust the chinese

they got ccp bonuses

[ember apex]

same spot critcake is

[clever path]

instant tp on smolderon

cd reset

[sullen basin]

I don't know what this means I can't read also does it have anything to dow ith cooldowns because that just looks like position

[ember apex]

the warrior stands w/ ranged in the back

[brisk talon]

It's nice to line up your orbs and then do a charge to boss for rage + soaking them at the same time

[ember apex]

to delay when he picks up his orbs

so his CDs line up

[inland chasm]

If orbs drop far away, you can delay your damage amp by almost 30 seconds

[clever path]

pop everything on pull stand far away

[sullen basin]

and if i dont get orbs i guess i just eat my own ass

[meager void]

standing back gives you time to get CDs back right as you get your orbs

[inland chasm]

Aligning your cds

[clever path]

the buff starts on first orb picked up and doesnt extend/reset

[ember apex]

yes use all ur CDs on pull immediately

[clever path]

so once u pick one up pick all of them up

[sullen basin]

so do i wait for them to almost reach boss

[meager void]

I think he gets it lol

[clever path]

my guild thought i was crazy when i told them the orbs were a damage buff

[clever path]

pick them up once you get your cds

[ember apex]

there's no way even the weak aura says "Dmg %" or something

[clever path]

which is almost reach the boss

[ember apex]

yeah its when the inner ring lights up

so as ur walking out

snag ur orbs

[astral path]

Wait what

[sullen basin]

i stood on the outside before knockback

I am dead

[astral path]

You can pop cds at start on smold?

[oblique trail]

yes

[astral path]

And delay orbs?

[oblique trail]

yes

[ember apex]

yes

[astral path]

Newfound tech holy shit

[sullen basin]

so I gotta stand like in the middle

[covert coyote]

Save the leap for knockback then

[oblique trail]

It's what you have to do as Warrior to align everything

[sullen basin]

not way at the back

I didn't have leap had to use it due to weird fucking tank teleportation bullshit (demon hunter)

[covert coyote]

Unfort.

[ember apex]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/warrior-fury/smolderon

[clever path]

thats actually a cool website

didnt know it existed

[young swan]

lorrgs is great

[ember apex]

and if u click on any parse

[young swan]

you can even import cd timings to your ert personal note now

[ember apex]

skip to 1min8sec to see positioning for first knockback

[clever path]

wait no way

[young swan]

yep

[clever path]

so it yells at you to press cds

[ember apex]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-lorrgs-io-feature-imports-cooldown-timers-as-in-game-notes-336698

[clever path]

man i love wowhead

[oblique trail]

Import my CD timings on Nymue where I hold them for 20 seconds because I'm told to stop dps on adds

[clever path]

cause i def dont have to turn my vpnn on

[oblique trail]

[clever path]

vpn's are pointless

[coarse nest]

This is actually wicked!

Can you have a note saved per boss?

[clever path]

unless you want to watch a movie from another country on netflix

[clever path]

for sure

[young swan]

unfortunately not

[clever path]

zamn network

[coarse nest]

Either way still pretty huge!

[clever path]

never used a vpn in my life so im just using those free ones

[clever belfry]

there is a Weakaura that changes note when u target a boss

i just forgor which ones it was

[ember apex]

im using protonvpn it's pretty poggers

[clever path]

im curious, what country are you from that wont let you use wowhead?

the holy land of serbia

i wonder why they blocked it?

happened a while

back

in sl i think

not worth it

low traffic prob

[clever belfry]

probably something something advertisers

[ember apex]

they act like they're a streaming video site. are serbians just straight up data scraping all day or what

even if u get 0 ad revenue

its still worth it to serve the website to serbian users

for market ubiquiety b/c those users will still link it on reddit / discord etc...

and provide clicks and traffic to monetizable users

so still worth

especially b/c the cost per user is low. that's why i wonder if they get hit w/ scraping attacks from serbia

and this mitigates it

thats the only reason

i can think of that's legitimate

[clever path]

i dont see why anyone would scrape it

[ember apex]

ppl web scrape everything

u wouldnt believe

[clever path]

ye but germany would have a lot more scrapers

[restive peak]

I missed the shockwave argument again

You take shockwave @chilly harbor unless you have 2 AOE stuns in group already

People not taking it are either A. in a group w 2 stuns or B. low keys or C. just bad

[sullen basin]

the orbs are kinda tough to get right at the start and you dont really get long to use them if you have to hold it

but hey top parsers do it, must be good

[oblique trail]

A lot of your damage is concentrated during that damage buff

[clever path]

at first i thought it was because of the ukraine thing but archi said it wasnt so idk

[eternal sundial]

simply get it right?

[oblique trail]

So you want to make sure you have it during all of your CDs, or at the very least your Spear

[ember apex]

it has to be scraping or some kind of malicous usage coming from serbia. there's no other legitimate reason i can think of

[sullen basin]

how long do orbs last anyway

[eternal sundial]

payoff is good

[ember apex]

or maybe a bunch of like attempted sql injections or shit like that

[eternal sundial]

15 while active 20 when dropped iirc

[ember apex]

searching for vulnerabilities w/in their CMS

[clever path]

Phil is Psyduck again!

[sullen basin]

and intermission lasts like 30s right

[restive peak]

PHILDUCK

[eternal sundial]

new improved and hatted up

[restive peak]

We ball

[sullen basin]

I managed to drop them right at the back last time and grab them right before the boss too but I fucked up my spear and lost damage time

placed that shit just before an internal ring

[eternal sundial]

idk man i just ate the wave cuz we arent on it on mythic yet

[restive peak]

You will basically always lose 1-2S of spear on the 1st inter

[clever path]

no clue but i doubt it

[restive peak]

If your guild is cool w you doing big damdam, they can spellward you

[sullen basin]

How much damage does the wave do

[restive peak]

Last intermm is 1-2-1-2-1-2 so you have it all as long as you drop in the right place

[sullen basin]

never been in it

[eternal sundial]

idk i walled and was fine

[plucky ice]

chads take the wave healers heal

[modest condor]

has anybody noticed something weird with the helm enchant proc rate?

[eternal sundial]

last one is so fuckin juicy with vc

[modest condor]

the other warrior in my guild is consistently proccing like twice as often as me

[eternal sundial]

1 mil spike

[ember apex]

no. red pill us on the helm enchant proc rate

[past pivot]

ilvl the same?

[modest condor]

no, but ilvl only affects the damage afaik, not the procrate

[ember apex]

helm proc rate affected by ilvl?

it works to minimize variables tho i guess

tell him to equip a 441 helm like u have

[unreal onyx]

is the procrate hasted

[sullen basin]

733k hp unbuffed the thing does about 46% of my hp if i stand in it

[unreal onyx]

441?

[eternal sundial]

why is ur hp so low bova

[ember apex]

u need to at least pop a spell reflect or something if ur gonna stand in stuff

[eternal sundial]

u should have like 970k

in raid

[sullen basin]

yeah its like 0% unless you roll a 1/1000000000000

[subtle lagoon]

[unreal onyx]

im 909k unbuffed

[eternal sundial]

your killtime is horrid man

[sullen basin]

432k if im looking at right thing so that sounds about right probably

[subtle lagoon]

Look at the other dps

Of course it's going to be horrid

[eternal sundial]

yep

[ember apex]

the blue bars are pet/aug damage right?

[chrome plover]

yoo player (164) blasting

[eternal sundial]

the light blue stuff is pets

[unreal onyx]

at what fight length does signet shine

[sullen basin]

770k with buff 🙂

[ember apex]

ur just low ilvl then

[oblique trail]

huh

[eternal sundial]

5ish if not more

[oblique trail]

how do you have 770k hp

[eternal sundial]

smf

[ember apex]

hes just lower ilvl im pretty sure

[oblique trail]

naurh

[ember apex]

its like impossible to be like 480ilvl w/ that HP

[plucky ice]

bro forgor to repair gear

[ember apex]

yeah got a few red items lulw

[oblique trail]

I put on 2 dookie weapons, my 483 1hander and 447 2hander and I still have 80k more hp

[eternal sundial]

i have been baited by training

where all my hp go man

[oblique trail]

Endurance + Fortitude = 1 mill hp for me

bedge

[eternal sundial]

ye same

[sullen basin]

yeah im 466 lol

[oblique trail]

wait

[ember apex]

yeah see

[sullen basin]

heroic andy with minimal dungeons

[ember apex]

i said

[sullen basin]

0 this week

[ember apex]

yeah thats what i was sayin

[clever path]

why are they having interviews with Bajeera about mountain thane rofl

[ember apex]

who else is there to talk about it w/

oh asmongold duh

[plucky ice]

yea

withered

[ember apex]

dude they gotta get asmon

[eternal sundial]

critcake someday

[clever path]

asmon would have prolly been a better pick than bajeera

[unreal onyx]

sims a lot better at 4min fight already

[eternal sundial]

[unreal onyx]

vs 483 might

[ember apex]

critcake doesnt do react content just plays wow

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uHQKpuy2tLrTpx2XgDHn5P

[ember apex]

we need asmon to react to this

[unreal onyx]

equal at 3min

[clever path]

nah bajeera plays the game

[past pivot]

no, we don't

[clever path]

true, mainly just pvp

maybe get archi in there

[past pivot]

Did he even play warrior? Does even play?

[ember apex]

who else? asmon is literally a fury warrior main

[clever path]

bajeera plays a lot less now days

[eternal sundial]

u seen him play

[ember apex]

asmon at least does react content. he has rank 1 parses. he has the credentials

[eternal sundial]

bro does not know what hes doin

[plucky ice]

he hits the buttons

[eternal sundial]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kCB4Y2D1w562TWnzrEUwcp

he doesnt have to know since he does not care

[sullen basin]

when did asmon get a rank 1 parse, wrath or cata?

[ember apex]

Legion

[sullen basin]

damn

[ember apex]

i know for sure legion

[sullen basin]

I wish I played in legion then I'd totally have good parses right now

[ember apex]

same i started in shadowlands

[eternal sundial]

(ollie got brand this week)

[plucky ice]

legion was ez parsing when you got a leggo nobody else really had yet

at start lol

[sullen basin]

same but I'm a low-med skill player so I parse blue maybe purple at best on heroic

[unreal onyx]

I wonder why your brand sims better than mine

[clever path]

https://youtu.be/fT9el7AugcA?si=Noc5B91mpr6Cg5r_

[unreal onyx]

if you replaced your might with it

[eternal sundial]

vers / rezan

idk

[unreal onyx]

but rezan doesn't interact with it

afaik

[eternal sundial]

game wants me to catalyst boots

wish it wasnt one per 2 weeks

[unreal onyx]

game wants me to buy boe boots

but we might kill smoldy tomorrow

and surely I will get the boots he will drop

[eternal sundial]

you can also just rekill and get volc ones

free slot this tier imo

[sullen basin]

you will get them

[unreal onyx]

I got those denied last time

[mossy fox]

i never got contacted by devs or anything yet, except early s1 df i got a discord friend request from mike ybarra and i didn't see it for 3 weeks, accepted it and responded but he didn't respond back

missed my chance frfr

[eternal sundial]

maybe

[sullen basin]

we're gonna lust at pull on smolderon

[unreal onyx]

what

[eternal sundial]

but you might be able to do the max thing as usual which is alr a semi direct way of getting feedback to the devs

[ember apex]

hes talking heroic

[mossy fox]

true

[chilly harbor]

but then why cruel strikes instead of uproar?

[eternal sundial]

farm new offhand angle

[clever path]

i have this and gorehowl, but gor is champion :/

[restive peak]

Depends on when damage aligns, I think that's personal pref; some people want CDs lined up

[eternal sundial]

i alr got one of them but game wants more vers

[ember apex]

i still dont have a myth track weapon, nothing in vault and 0 drops from gnarl

my guild actually needs 4 myth track 2handers

[clever path]

i feel it, the game doesnt want me to have ocean for some reason

[eternal sundial]

ill just loot lego on reset and its okay

[quiet geyser]

I did a key the other day, and throughout the whole key it procced twice. It was a 1 off.. but still weird

[edgy widget]

Surprisingly insightful Mountain Thane interview, featuring @hazy quest and @naive oar asking some solid questions
https://www.wowhead.com/news/mountain-thane-warrior-interview-with-bajheera-and-plkatv-fury-and-protection-336821

[ember apex]

our aug ran waycrest 45 times before he got his trinket

[ember apex]

sometimes w/ stacks

[eternal sundial]

jail time

[torn anchor]

took me 27 runs to get the weapon

[eternal sundial]

i took 38 BRH for chest

and then got 489 tier chest in vault week after

so i used it for one night

[oblique trail]

the key is to just loot it without socket and get a shit ass dookie donkey vault the 3rd and 4th reset so you can get a socket for it

so you don't have to be jailed

[restive peak]

Nice thing about rings at this point is they drop often and most don't need

Ez trade

[eternal sundial]

this the ring its beating btw

[oblique trail]

heavy crit

[restive peak]

Damn

[oblique trail]

wcyd

[eternal sundial]

what imma do is just get a non shit belt and socket that

cuz this is not it

[restive peak]

Man you sim super fuckin high for your gear wtf

[eternal sundial]

that item gotta go

[ember apex]

mine rolled w/ socket AND avoidance natty

[eternal sundial]

im missin wrist socket rest i got sorted

[restive peak]

Bananas dude

I'm 227 but 489 wep/489rezans+483 brand etc

Only non 489 pieces are OH, brand, rings and helm lol

[eternal sundial]

i dont have 489 wep which is giga rip

[restive peak]

Ye the sockies are bananas

[ember apex]

same on wep

[sullen basin]

What's the different between lusting on pull and intermission anyway on heroic

Other than it inflating the ego of people with really long cooldowns sooner it changed nothing

[ember apex]

the intermission has a damage buff

[eternal sundial]

gotta up the wrist replace belt and get lego

rest of gear is kinda GG

[sullen basin]

yeah but people die because they're stupid

so they cant get the benefit during it

on the first one

[quiet geyser]

Must be nice getting weapons in vault

[coarse nest]

Real

[eternal sundial]

yep

[unreal onyx]

my stuff is just a lil scuffed

[torn anchor]

@eternal sundial what addon is that for ilvl?

[unreal onyx]

missing sockets like literally everywhere

[eternal sundial]

its dejacharacter stats and elvui

elv for font mainly

[quiet geyser]

You got 2 489s!? Bigg fu

[unreal onyx]

just kill gnarl

it's not that hard

[torn anchor]

and get it to drop

and win the roll

[eternal sundial]

council will drop socketed helm and i will get it

[quiet geyser]

We have 4 or 5 kills on him. Not a single 2her yet

[restive peak]

Lucky mafuckaaaaaa

[oblique trail]

Just loot it from the prog kill

[eternal sundial]

[unreal onyx]

my augury and chest have leech

and my axe has speed

[sullen basin]

speed is bis

[torn anchor]

How do you sim items you dont have?

[sullen basin]

gear compare

[unreal onyx]

droptimizer or gear compare

[past pivot]

or droptimizer

[quiet geyser]

The amount of luck some people have is uncanning. Im out here getting sockets from vault 2 weeks in a row

[torn anchor]

ahh gotcha

[sullen basin]

also you can just add them to the sim using wowheads import thingy

if you can find the item the way you want on there properly

[eternal sundial]

thats just rude

how do u whiff 6 slots

jfc

[unreal onyx]

dw, I gotta get rid of that big hammer next week anyway when I get the leggo

[eternal sundial]

[sullen basin]

4 set week 2 nothing since unless it was scraps nobody needed

[unreal onyx]

I came in the season 1.5 weeks late too

bc I was on business trip

[quiet geyser]

Honestly just always have bad vault luck. Especially when it comes to weapons and trinkets

[unreal onyx]

I could still get 3 ilvl up + 500dps if I buy the boe boots in the ah

[eternal sundial]

i got 489 rezan the nut ring and x2 489 tier things so i cant complain yet

[eternal sundial]

or dont do that ezpz

[unreal onyx]

I think my gear is also pretty good so far

but I need sockets and tertiaries

[restive peak]

Ion and I spend every wednesday morning at work bitching about our bad vaults 😄

[unreal onyx]

483 might is in my bags

[restive peak]

We both have bad luck LOL

[unreal onyx]

the only boe I bought so far was the dk offset helm for tmog

[quiet geyser]

Its insane. I dont open my vault till like 8pmish est. Due to work.. so spend all day tuesdays in here seeing every1s amazing vaults full of 2hs and trinkets. And legit every week mine is cloaks and wrists

[unreal onyx]

I think DPS-wise for m+ and almost for raid too a socket is my biggest upgrade I can get

[clever path]

cause nothing aligns

with 1min roar

[unreal onyx]

one of the biggest that is

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/j7RJk1SnbsxM2GSNB8Q2WV

just gimme rezan and im gucci

[restive peak]

I just want leggo tm

[clever path]

you can have rezan, when i get ocean or aug

[restive peak]

Or a 2nd 489 wep

[quiet geyser]

Man i got lucky this week.. i think i looted like 5 or 6 of the lessers

A long with the obvious guarantee greater

[unreal onyx]

I got 4 + greater

surely leggo next week

[quiet geyser]

My leggo will be looted by some LFR hero

Surely

[vague sand]

I saw someone looting on lfr, wanted to kms

[restive peak]

We both gettin it tm

Closin the gym Wed

[quiet geyser]

Take my holiday break soon. Would be nice lol, so i can farm the quest while off

[clever path]

do i have red name now

ah yes, i am important

[quiet geyser]

[half cargo]

[dire badge]

[restive peak]

LETS GOOOO

xD

I should boost our lovely server too

[quiet geyser]

Red name just means you've been here long enough and haven't been banned by Arch for saying something so utterly stupid 👍

[clever path]

i try to stay on archis good side

[quiet geyser]

It really isn't hard haha

[jovial coral]

If it makes you feel any better I would never listen to you

[slim coral]

[calm mantle]

42minute 20 everbloom :c

[sullen tendon]

do dungeon parses mean anytthing

[slim coral]

No

[unreal onyx]

not in the slightest

[ember apex]

i learned about that tab like 3 weeks ago

[sullen tendon]

thought so

[slim coral]

A dungeon parse is as good as a parse on KT in SOd

[clever path]

can parse a 99 and not time the key

[gaunt moat]

the thing is barely anybody log dungeons so the parses are mostly false

[ember apex]

KT was my favorite boss in all of shadowlands

except maybe intermission anduin

[unreal onyx]

noway 100 ilvl dungeon logs

I am the goddest player

[quiet geyser]

I can 1 up this, a sun king parse in nathria

[unreal onyx]

HPS parses on sunking matter

[ember apex]

castle nathria was the first raid i did

[sullen tendon]

what happens in your atals

[clever path]

its still crazy that dps was super low in CN

[unreal onyx]

don#t wanna talk abt that

(I don't know what happened in all those keys)

[clever path]

the trex ate him

[unreal onyx]

im nelf

I am invisible to the tiny arm dino

[clever path]

LOL

[unreal onyx]

I just can't get targeted twice

[clever path]

i just leap far away and stand there

[proud vessel]

how do we open with Titanic rage in m+?

[edgy widget]

press Reck and OF

[proud vessel]

thx

[clever belfry]

real

[dire badge]

Real and true even

[left perch]

bring red maid back again

[dire badge]

red maid was an all time arc

[sullen basin]

just got complained at for not being in the tank soak (for the first time, too) due to tank moving to a different spot and autism making me go to the usual spot (the side opposite the lava pools, which is better because it lets circles go around the edge/side) apparently its not okay to say "please be consistent and dont make me do more stuff" in worse words

[young swan]

i dont even get this many message requests lmfao

[sullen basin]

cant the tanks just do the same thing every time to reduce the thinking power required to go zug zug

[dire badge]

remind them it’s the tanks problem maybe he should just live it

[sullen basin]

if the tank doesnt randomly stand ina different spot its easier for people to soak it

[left perch]

“please be consistent and don’t make me do more stuff” in worse words is probably the issue

[clever path]

yes

u are the best player ever

[sullen tendon]

i knew it

[slim coral]

It’s just a bunch of randoms telling me they’re catching up to me in io and then some guildies

[humble plover]

Living rent free

[restive peak]

LOL

[unreal onyx]

im catching up to you in io

I gained +8 today

watch out

[restive peak]

Don't do it bae

DON

'T

DO

IT

[sullen basin]

7th on smolderon kill, got the shoes

[slim coral]

[unreal onyx]

dw, you're already further than I will get the entire season

I just wanna pug to 3k and be donezo

[clever path]

what are you going to do after you hit 3k

[slim coral]

Example A @unreal onyx

[unreal onyx]

do weekly 20s and log off

[clever path]

fair

i cant even convince myself to play an alt anymore

[unreal onyx]

at least with 3k I should be fairly safe to get into 20s even as a warrior

[indigo quarry]

spoiler alert you wont

[unreal onyx]

maybe true

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/sucks-jack-black-sucks-to-be-me-angry-gif-5272431

[unreal onyx]

im 2930rn planning on getting 3k either next or in 2 weeks

[clever path]

can always sell carries for more gold next xpac

my gm asked if we could sell carries to put gold in the guild bank, or donate 20$. is that normal?

[unreal onyx]

are you a world first raider?

[clever path]

not even close

[low folio]

did he link his cashapp

[unreal onyx]

then it is not normal

[young swan]

carries are pretty normal

donations are not

[clever path]

good because i just laughed at him, but felt bad

[young swan]

carries to fund gbank* are normal i should say

[final birch]

its easier for me to get into 24 fall than 17 fall

no joke

[unreal onyx]

I don't even know how we finance our food and runes

I think we sell boe's

[coarse nest]

My guild sells carries to fund gbank

They also provide flasks/pots/repairs every raid night

[unreal onyx]

how easy is it to sell carries?

[coarse nest]

So it’s fair

[unreal onyx]

might tip our rl off

[coarse nest]

We also get a cut from the boost as well

[unreal onyx]

free gold basically

we're skipping hc every week anyway

[coarse nest]

Pretty much yeah

[unreal onyx]

how many bostees does a guild take per run?

and is it a lot "harder" with deadweight

[clever path]

ive seen up to 6-7

[coarse nest]

Heroic isn’t much harder with dead weight no

[unreal onyx]

we're 20-manning hc

shouldn't be that hard then

[clever path]

but if you think about it a whole heroic run is like 600k, heroic fyrakk is 290k

so its really not that much gold unless youre using like 10 lockouts back to back

[odd stone]

for Entangling... sometimes it just works out where I can do an OF or Avatar to break the entangling without running out, but sometimes it doesn't work...
my assumptions is if I already have avatar buff, that using an ability that extends it won't break. but if I don't have avatar buff, then I can break... is that right or is it something else?

[unreal onyx]

we speedran hc this tier, got world 350

[modest condor]

if you have avatar up, then OF doesn't break it

but if you have an avatar proc from OF and then use natty avatar it does break

[snow edge]

Didn't realise that, interesting

[modest condor]

not the only weird thing with it

[snow edge]

No I mean there's plenty of weird illogical things with the CD overwrites, but that's quirky

[modest condor]

avatar gives rage, and normally it's doubled by reck, but if you use OF during avatar that rage isnt doubled

[snow edge]

Consistency is key

[dapper goblet]

so we're just dming ourselves

[clever path]

XEOS!

[dapper goblet]

it me

[odd stone]

thanks, so if i have no avatar and use OF, i can break it... but I already have avatar and use OF, I can't

[coarse nest]

Is it not normal to talk to yourself in someone else’s DMs?

[unreal onyx]

yes

if you are in avatar you can't break it

you have to re-buff yourself

afaik

[clever path]

i wish they made a glyph for avatar

[obtuse copper]

What do you guys do in avg dmg in dungeons and at what ilvl?

[slim coral]

I wasn’t dming myself lmao I don’t even type like that

I feel bad if I leak a username though

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/stanley-hudson-the-office-annoyed-gif-20544770

[slim coral]

Fine

Bully

[dapper goblet]

so you changed your username and pfp

to make it more believeable

[sullen basin]

a kind DK traded me soulspun casque from AD 🙂

[ember apex]

what position are u guys on illidan leaderboard

[odd stone]

overall dmg in M+ i am doing 140-170k, with 472 ilvl... i'm not that good though as I am new to fury

[coarse nest]

Above 1st

[covert blaze]

Can't believe Baze would just forge DMS like that

Shaking and crying rn

[obtuse copper]

Hmm i see , in doing like 170-190 or something at 479, but i must be doing something wrong..

[eternal sundial]

bit low i think

[sullen basin]

reminds me of those graphs where 5'6" is half the size of 6'0"
what the hell is wrong with details here

467 ilvl had shit fps for the first half of the packs is this fine

[ember apex]

bugged bars

[sullen basin]

second time in atal dazar

[ember apex]

did u reload during the fight/dungeon?

[sullen basin]

no

[ember apex]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[sullen basin]

my pc is just bad and its been on for like 4 hours (full raid time then dungeon)

[ember apex]

reset ur details. a details w/ tons of information in it can lag ur game

i learned this when i had done raid and then M+ w/o resetting and then cleared it and my game ran good again

[sullen basin]

sure, thanks

[obtuse copper]

What's you avg dmg?

[eternal sundial]

idk last atal i did i was at 248

[slim coral]

[eternal sundial]

brh 20

idk it swings

[obtuse copper]

Hmm, at what ilvl ? And which trinkets are u using ?

[eternal sundial]

484

that run was with rezan + might iirc

but also aug mage i got to aoe more

[obtuse copper]

Hmm I see, I'm using rezan atm (but havnt gotten might yet, really need it..)

But even with that I'll reach like 200-210k or something like that, I must be doing something wrong lol, but no idea what

Phial of vers I guess? Which potions do u usually run with ?

[past pivot]

Why y'all running Rezan in keys? Such a bad trinket for M+, especially Fort week.

[obtuse copper]

Its the only one I got atm haha

[rigid stirrup]

maybe people dont have augury yet

[obtuse copper]

Would've been nice to get might + augury

[rigid stirrup]

its p nice ngl

[peak halo]

Just got Augury is it good?

[rigid stirrup]

its the most consistent

[clear light]

please let me get augury on this vault

[rigid stirrup]

but I also feel like that might've been a subtle flex

[obtuse copper]

yeah I guess might + Augury is the way to go in m+ , but without augury is there any other choice? Rezan + Might feels solid then

[peak halo]

Nice, also play DH and they say it's not good for DH

[clear light]

@obtuse copper crab is a lright

[urban tapir]

Might + gore/crab

[hasty path]

augury is giga rng

[urban tapir]

If u don’t have aug

[past pivot]

If no Augury, Crab. Or Gore. Or Pip. Or Mirror. Or even some of the others.

[obtuse copper]

I'm running Rezan + crab atm

[clear light]

farm tott for might

[obtuse copper]

Yeah, trying , never lucky tho

[clear light]

took me 35+ run

[obtuse copper]

Oh damn

[rigid stirrup]

it took me 56 runs for a hero track rezans

[obtuse copper]

I'm just praying to the rng gods to get the 489 in the vault this week

[coarse nest]

Can’t wait to loot augury and never un equip it

[rigid stirrup]

then next week it got replaced by brand/aug/might

[heavy sparrow]

Have you seen the new post about hero talents?

Frankly speaking the only interesting ones were the warrior perks

Of the one they showed

[past pivot]

If no Augury, can run Might and Signet next week since it's Tyr Spiteful week.

[rigid stirrup]

we dont know slayer yet

which is probably what we're going to be doing

unless the other one has massive M+ value

[heavy sparrow]

Mountain thane is fury and prot

[past pivot]

Yes, and Slayer is Fury amd Arms

[ember apex]

fury is going to be attack speed / leech style gameplay

[oblique trail]

Thane at a glance looks to be very much M+/AoE centered

So I'm just gonna assume Slayer is more ST/Raid focused

[peak halo]

Is it worth catalysing Champ gear or should I hold it for Hero track

[heavy sparrow]

Anyway, seems decently interesting, but only the warrior perks, the other perks were pretty damn boring

[rigid stirrup]

depends on the content you're doing

[heavy sparrow]

As a whole

[coarse nest]

Are you able to reliably farm hero gear? If so, yes hold for that

[ember apex]

this is slayer from PoE for reference

[rigid stirrup]

if you're gonna be pushing keys or mythic raiding then its best to save for a hero track

[past pivot]

Which has zero reference to the game.

[rigid stirrup]

if most you're doing is aotc / quota keys do w/e you want

[ember apex]

blizz isnt calling arms/fury talent tree slayer for no reason

[indigo quarry]

Slayer should be rend / execute oriented

[ember apex]

it isnt a coincidence

[peak halo]

That would be 17+?

[ember apex]

its gonna be attackspeed / leech maybe phys DoT

[obtuse copper]

Are you guys using any particular sim when trying to sim for m+ ?

[ember apex]

people sim patchwerk+4 targets and there's also dungeon slice

[past pivot]

Slayer could be Condemn/Execute playstyle. Aka Venthyr

[hasty path]

idk why everyone assumes it's gonna be like slayer from poe

it's not like poe invented the concept of a slayer lmao

[obtuse copper]

I've just heard that dungeon slice is alittle meh

[ember apex]

its not called slayer for no reason

its a reference

[coarse nest]

Yes +17

[hasty path]

to POE...

[ember apex]

there's hundreds of references in wow

[hasty path]

[ember apex]

they do this all the time

[hasty path]

yes very very clear and direct reference

not at all ambiguous

using a common word

[coarse nest]

It’s going to be like slayer from RuneScape

[ember apex]

alright sick im sure there'll be 0 haste or attack speed on the SLAYER tree

[coarse nest]

Duh

[ember apex]

b/c slayers dont have fast attack speed and leech and phys dots

[past pivot]

Venthyr called players "Slayers".

[hasty path]

never said that LMAO

[ember apex]

its not common, look aat mountain thane. who the F has that. it's a style of gameplay that the name invokes

[ember apex]

ok well im saying there will be haste/attack speed/leech b/c its literally called slayer

[covert blaze]

@hasty path slay dn

[ember apex]

dn?

[past pivot]

I'll bet you a WoW token, Slayer is based around execute and brings back the Condemn animation.

[young swan]

DEEZ NUTS LOL GET OWNED STUPID CARLO

[young swan]

@covert blaze got u dw

[hasty path]

mountain thane you mean the thing from warcraft 3

🙂

[fickle bluff]

my minds on bleeds

[hasty path]

i also think it'll be bleeds given it's prot/arms

[ember apex]

slayer archetype includes phys DoTs

[covert blaze]

ty xan

[ember apex]

like i said

[fickle bluff]

slayer is arms/fury

[hasty path]

oh youre right

lmao

im thinking of what colossus?

https://rpgbot.net/pathfinder/characters/classes/slayer/

[fickle bluff]

yes

[ember apex]

that doesnt contradict my archetype which is attack speed/leech/phys DoTs it could still have that and have my thing

[hasty path]

the slayer archetype

[ember apex]

its not just some massive ruse that they're calling it slayer

[hasty path]

clearly a universal fantasy archetype

POE isn't the only other thing to use the term slayer is my point lmao

you're just reaching really hard

it certainly could be similar to the POE slayer

[fickle bluff]

expecting too much from carlo

[hasty path]

but there is absolutely no inherent link

[past pivot]

Attack speed doesn't jibe with Arms. The rest, maybe.

[hasty path]

ngl

[ember apex]

how is that reaching...

[hasty path]

didnt realize i was talking to carlo

[ember apex]

<_<

[hasty path]

what else has wow specifically referenced from POE

in class design

[covert blaze]

Nish talking to himself or something

very weird

take your pills

[spare otter]

Let Carlo cook man

[hasty path]

this is about to be your view for the next 24 hours while i drag your stupid ass around the block, chit

[narrow narwhal]

Fury fuck good

[fickle bluff]

this shit aint NOTHING to me man

[flat river]

Stop cooking

[hasty path]

ill turn your fucking city into pompeii, do you understand me?

[flat river]

U can't cook

[hasty path]

tell that to my last opp. Smoked him so hard his meat fell straight off the bone

[empty peak]

460 re-roll Dk got Lego last night on first ever Fyrakk kill 🥲🥲

[covert blaze]

I can't wait to curb stomp you in these dumb ugly ass Rick Owens shoes

[humble plover]

Nish can u smoke my meat?

[oblique trail]

dracula flow moments

[hasty path]

only if you can show me ten bands

[ember apex]

ok. lets pretend we both have 0 IQ.

There's spec in wow called guardian and an ascendancy in poe called guardian. what is that ascendancy and that spec in wow both good at?

if u had to guess

[hasty path]

smolderon prog was bis

[hasty path]

being bears

🙂

[covert blaze]

lmfao only way to play

[hasty path]

no shot you're comparing a fucking paladin archetype to bear

LMAO

[ember apex]

what does the bear do

[spare otter]

Ayy that's so wholesome

[hasty path]

swipes, thrashes, uses ironfur, nature based stuff

[ember apex]

in wow whats the bears job

lets go

come on

whats the bears role in wow

[hasty path]

lmfao

[past pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-buffy-summers-bif-the-zombie-killer-vampires-the-lost-boys-gif-21395172

[ember apex]

u cant answer b/c u cant concede

[tepid scroll]

To get declined from any key over a 22

[ember apex]

u literally cant concede a single point

[oblique trail]

would love to just turn my brain off for smolderon prog sometimes

[oblique trail]

but I gotta at least pretend like there are a few people with a modicum of intellect in the raid

(not me)

[fickle bluff]

guardian protects things
slayer invokes nothign but "kills things"

get poe out of your brain

[spare otter]

I skip nymue and larodaor

Going straight into smolderon

Fun

[flat river]

<3

[oblique trail]

The only way I'll live through smolderon wipes is playing a minigame of how many flame waves I can dodge in one go

[ember apex]

idk i feel like i make good points and then proceed to get shit on just b/c ppl disagree. like u can tell from the name approximately what slayers gonna be

[heavy sparrow]

I was reading the tooltips for the mountain thane hero talents.

And one of them struck me as making no sense at all.

[oblique trail]

that's not how it works Carlo

You can be a slayer without having to suck up their life juice

or get more area of effect

[heavy sparrow]

Lighting bolts fired from your abilities reduce the cd of... ravager?

[ember apex]

it's gonna be attack speed/leech/phys DoTs. maybe theres some execute stuff in there maybe some other stuff

[heavy sparrow]

Why ravager?

Ravager is already on anger management, it should be avatar

[rigid stirrup]

slayer gets die by the sword next expansion or riot

[heavy sparrow]

Especially since that's the whole idea of the spec

[daring totem]

Anyone got any info on whether lego on use ability is a waste for fury?

[oblique trail]

It's not a waste, use it outside of CDs

[heavy sparrow]

Or at least a significant portion of the idea of mountain thane is about avatar

[oblique trail]

so after you do the opener basically

[daring totem]

OK sweet, is it affected by trinkets etc?

[oblique trail]

There just aren't many good times to use it either for Fury, which would be why it's awkward

No it's not

[spare otter]

Yea but how long after you do the opener? Like when lust is still going on, before the next OF comes off cd, etc?

[oblique trail]

Unless you'd ahve something that'd increase your vers or crit rating

[flat river]

Guys Slayer will give you movement speed, attack speed, and execute + Rampage/MS buffs

[heavy sparrow]

Flashing Skies: Chance for Lightning Strikes to critically strike is increased by 5% and their critical strike damage is increased by 10%.
Valarjar Training: Lightning Strikes reduce the cooldown of Ravager by 0.5 second.

[slim coral]

Save me from tindral prog please

[ember apex]

agree

[oblique trail]

After the opener when your CDs are down

[heavy sparrow]

Ravager being the ability selected makes 0 sense

[spare otter]

But lust is still up

[young swan]

prob after DB expires after your second OF

[oblique trail]

Like I said, there aren't many good times to use it because Fury wants to still use their buttons at all times

[nova atlas]

bring back Fury Bladestorm

[heavy sparrow]

Ravager is better than bladestorm

[rigid stirrup]

why does the cheese for fire lines on tyn work on everything but mythic lmao

[young swan]

why

prot and fury only have access to ravager

[spare otter]

Oh fr? That's really late, like idk if that would work on something like nymue because lines would spawn by then

[young swan]

yeah its really bad on some fights

[covert blaze]

Need a choice node, DBTS vs ER

[daring totem]

No honestly this has been a huge help, I was having a play with it yesterday but just couldn't get a good result while cd's were up

[heavy sparrow]

Because the idea of mountain thane is about avatar, and ravager cd is already reduced by anger management

[astral path]

So is slayer new fury spec?

[oblique trail]

I mean probably listen more to Xan since he actually has the weapon

[heavy sparrow]

So it should reduce the cd on avatar, not ravager

That's literally a dead node otherwise

[oblique trail]

Just going by what theoretically was the best based on sims

[spare otter]

Yea on nymue I use it like 6 secs before 2nd of comes off cd but I waste lust value. Idk if it's even worth ngl

[oblique trail]

It'll also depend on what fight you are doing

[ember apex]

does he?

[oblique trail]

No I say it for fun

[ember apex]

oh

[rigid stirrup]

I like this

[dapper goblet]

you dont get to cry

[oblique trail]

Slayer is the new Hero Talents shared between Fury and Arms in the next expansion

[dapper goblet]

mickey mouse version of the fight

[rigid stirrup]

can adjust situationally

[oblique trail]

It's not an entirely new spec

It's just a small talent tree besides your current spec/class trees

[flat river]

Maybe they will buff enrage and make rampage instead of enraging you, it angers you and you get the effect "Wrath" instead is basically a buffed version of enrage that makes our next execute insta crit with like 300% more dmg or smthing

[past pivot]

I hope we get some new transmogs geared toward each talent tree.

[heavy sparrow]

Anyway, so far i am not super impressed.

Hoped for things like:

Season 4 shadowland enhance tier set.

Woa reset.

Things like that, this is mostly just clutter with some cool stuff

[astral path]

Sick

[heavy sparrow]

Mountain thane seems relatively interesting, the others are worse

[young swan]

i think its particularly shit on nymue

[astral path]

From what I’ve seen new hero spec talents look pretty cool

[heavy sparrow]

Of the ones they shown

There are some decently cool hero talents, but overall, kinda meh

[young swan]

explain what you mean by s4 slands set

cause there was only one tier set in sl and it was s3

and it was a literal casino set

complete dogshit

[spare otter]

Yea idk the timing worked out kinda nice with how I did it, because the cd would come up after intermission just before lines spawn every time , I just don't know how much value I lose at the start tho

[clever belfry]

ww love gacha in our rotation

[heavy sparrow]

It was the set that procced wolves when you generated msw procs.

Or even better, they should make this current enhance set a hero talent

[clever belfry]

surely Vil was on warr for that

[oblique trail]

We'll have more gacha with the mountain thane talents

[ember apex]

that could be sick

[clever belfry]

insert pic of leap 3x sb tclap opener

[young swan]

oh ur actually talking about enhance for some reason

[heavy sparrow]

It was an example

Of what i would like to see in the hero talents

[warm crag]

leap

[oblique trail]

can't wait to see puggies doing this CRAZY opener in keys

[warm crag]

thunder clap

stormbolt

[summer quail]

LES GO

[heavy sparrow]

Becuase i couldn't think of something fury related at the moment

[clever belfry]

sponge wrong opener

[young swan]

gz

[warm crag]

dogshit warrior player should delete their warrior as they do not know the mountain thane opener

[young swan]

sped proc too

[oblique trail]

I leap from my house to yours in an instant and stormbolt thunderclaps you

[young swan]

insane

[summer quail]

big speed

[flat river]

New Slayer hero talent:
Aug Evoker gets removed.
You are now a Demon Hunter

[heavy sparrow]

Aug evoker becomes a melee dps spec

[ember apex]

i like aug

[heavy sparrow]

Like enhance

Same name too

[coarse nest]

Yo Mutou is fast

[summer quail]

11% speed gaming

[heavy sparrow]

This dps support shit just doesn't work.

And more support specs won't solve the problem

[clever belfry]

i would post the pic but phone does not allow from: X has: Y search anymore

Great change

[heavy sparrow]

They could make it so support specs only support dps, but then it's just a dps with extra steps

[ember apex]

imagine if wow abilities had support gems

[oblique trail]

I gotchu

[flat river]

Ikr? And to balance it make it like 150% dmg to secondary targets

[clever belfry]

acquire god

[oblique trail]

owo

[clever belfry]

ty king

[oblique trail]

👑

[heavy sparrow]

And your performance is tied to other people's performance, way more than any other spec

Honestly, augmentation was just a mistake in my opinion

[ember apex]

wtf ur like a genius

[clever path]

yeah aug needs to be trashed

[clever belfry]

[oblique trail]

🙅‍♂️

[past pivot]

Revised talent: Enhanced Clap: Increased chance to ooze a toxic wound that leeches x% of damage, boosted by attack power, done to nearest 5 targets.

[spare otter]

Everyone talks about how aug needs to be trashed as soon as anda joins

[ember apex]

i think if there were like 3-5 support specs like aug it wouldnt be a problem

but b/c aug is the only one

[heavy sparrow]

He's not wrong

[ember apex]

its a problem

[flat river]

And execute can now be used at above 80% HP

[storm rune]

Aug is the best thing that happened to m+

[ember apex]

we had that already so yeah bring that back

[oblique trail]

nice bait

[clever belfry]

center of attention debuff acquired

[ember apex]

debuff?

[clever path]

[storm rune]

It makes shit so much easier, even clicker andys can time a 20

[clever belfry]

Yes for me that's a debuff

[fallow rose]

Give warrior a support spec, shoutmans

[storm rune]

All for the price of 1 auggie

[oblique trail]

hate social interaction

[clever path]

basically d4 ww build

[heavy sparrow]

I think eso does support far better than wow ever could

[ember apex]

i saw a clicker andy streaming at 3.4k io as a fury warrior

on twitch

[heavy sparrow]

Becuase everyone can support with the right sets

[ember apex]

like 2 weeks ago too. not even just this week or something

[heavy sparrow]

and abilities

[clever belfry]

No
it should be Legs warrior
Dance to empower your powerful colleagues

[heavy sparrow]

It's a different game though

[fallow rose]

I still hear them

[storm rune]

Dude must have the worlds worst case of carpal tunnel

[heavy sparrow]

Fundamentally

[flat river]

Sudden death procs deal 100% more dmg and sudden death triggers more often

[wraith wharf]

i dislike how the hero talents are tied to other talents for us

[spare otter]

Slayer gonna give us bloodlust

[past pivot]

They should give DH a new spec. Melee support and rework Aug to be ranged support. In M+, either class can do the job. Problem mostly solved.

[flat river]

[wraith wharf]

it wont

[ember apex]

kinda like S1 DF tier set

[spare otter]

How do you know bro?

[flat river]

Second part yeah but first part no

[ember apex]

it could maybe give the group frenzy charges which increase attack speed

and movement speed

[clever belfry]

You dont technically know the tree for WaWi maybe it's all baseline
+
If it weren't itd be boring as shite

[flat river]

That too

[ember apex]

which is inline w/ what a slayer could do

[heavy sparrow]

Hero talents so far seem kinda uninspired and pretty irrelevant, hopefully they come up with some better stuff

[wraith wharf]

because i believe they said they don't want to tie CDs like that to talents

[spare otter]

Oh

Ggs

[ember apex]

hero talents for mountain sausage were pretty sick imo

also first public iteration

[spare otter]

Thanks for killing my vibe bro

[flat river]

Also execute now bleeds the target

Baseline

[heavy sparrow]

Mountain thane was relatively good

[ember apex]

nah i'd like if the damage was frontloaded

[storm rune]

That leads to the eventual zero healer comp, double support, 2 DPS that can self sustain and the most broken tank possible

[flat river]

• the normal dmg...

[heavy sparrow]

They need to change the ravager cdr to avatar cdr though, that shit makes no sense

With anger management

[flat river]

For like 30% of the dmg done

[spare otter]

Slayer: execute now usable at 50%

[calm mantle]

So I got a 470 spores from everbloom but sim tells me my 447 vial of blood is better.

[ember apex]

oh slayer has cull

[clever path]

god i hate ravager

[ember apex]

i didnt even think of that

wtf

[true sapphire]

I think it's positive. I think it's a good way to explore evolving/changing class trees without having to start from nothing. I think it's an incredible step in the right direction and keeping game play evolving and refreshing.

[flat river]

Slayer: your next execute increases your next executes damage and crit chance by 100%

[covert blaze]

[spare otter]

What that's just ashen juggernaut x100?

[flat river]

Raidfinder

[wraith wharf]

i mean tier sets already make us switch up talents each season, i enjoy that but remember this stuff is permament changes, not just for a season

[covert blaze]

it has speed too so it's bis

[flat river]

ashen + normal combined into 1

[true sapphire]

How do you know how long it's for?

[young swan]

what the fuck is this man