fury

[eternal sundial]

Guilds of any prog level exist

[subtle lagoon]

An "aotc" guild

[eternal sundial]

You can meet some very funny people in those

[summer bobcat]

Those typa guilds who inv random ppl and whisper them a whole paragraph

[spare otter]

I can't wait for tww

Will be so funny being able to pug mythic

[eternal sundial]

Surely pugs will kill igira

[spare otter]

Nah I reckon pugs will be a decent way to prog

It is in ff14

[eternal sundial]

Mythic lockout exists

[spare otter]

Yea but once they remove all the bs restrictions next xpac

[eternal sundial]

[spare otter]

Don't think it's be too much of an issue

Not like people in ff14 would go and reclear in pugs for the fun of it anyway

[eternal sundial]

It's not vault i doubt youll see pugs prog these bosses

Either u alr got it on farm and play an alt or u prolly wont pug it

[spare otter]

We'll see I got my doubts tho

Ff14 fights are way harder than most of these fights (imo)

And pugs are fine

Especially on prog

[sullen dove]

[junior light]

Hey, is the annihilator build still good on m+ without the tier set ? I find the Playstyle engaging

[errant vessel]

No it's horrible without sadly

[junior light]

Damn that's sad

[errant vessel]

Maybe if they make Annihilator buff BT dmg in the future

[junior light]

Let's hope so

Less spammy is more fun

[burnt stone]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pYVrPEFTZxViMdeG1PBqHX
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gGXRfGtknhjfk1jsRq7LoJ

Hello brothers, I am contacting you because I suddenly found something strange while editing APL and running Simc.

The first link is the basic APL.

The second link was changed to use the avatar if available without Odin's cooldown, and Odin was also changed to be used immediately regardless of the remaining time of Dancing Blade.

I naturally thought that the basic APL would have higher DPS, but why does the second APL have higher DPS?

Could it have something to do with legendary weapons?

[whole spear]

Prob just within margin of error no ?

[burnt stone]

I don't know about the error.
In order to explain to people why they should use Odin first, I changed APL and did a simulation, and this is the result. lol

[clever path]

are we supposed to me using CDs during mythic smolderon intermission? i feel like im losing too much spear uptime doing that

[unreal onyx]

You scuff your opener, stand back during knock to delay picking up orbs and stand in the last circles with ER to get the optimal DPS/uptime

Critcake did a video about it iirc

[tender seal]

I'm not sure i would do it on prog 😄 u gonna feel like a mongol the first time you die to it, even if it works out fine the first 20 pulls

[proud vessel]

So are we running Dancing Blades on fortified weeks also or is that just in the really high keys? 🙂

[tardy lark]

the auto WW from OF is kinda just a feel good thing

Dancing Blades is just too good with Annihilator

[unreal onyx]

I‘m doing it on prog atm

Us 2 warriors got called out mid-raid night for consistently standing in the circles

[proud vessel]

thought on fort weeks we would go for the bigger aoe burst but yeah i get why we should take daning blades even i fort

[proud vessel]

what is OF?

[unreal onyx]

But you can heal yourself with ER and SR/VR after

[unreal onyx]

Odyns fury

[tardy lark]

burst is better the shorter the pack lives. If the pack dies within 10 seconds, TR is gonna be good since it allows you to skip enrage globals and a WW global. If they live long enough to actually make use of DB and the setup required, its just straight up better

[unreal onyx]

I haven’t encountered any week/affix setup that required to change the basic m+ build in all of DF so far

But I also only do max 24s

[tardy lark]

So depending on what you deem "high keys", yeah its probably a high key thing

DB is a pretty decent gain on ST while TR is basically 0 🤷‍♀️

[unreal onyx]

I‘ve switched to DB last week and only then felt how much of a qol the ww stacks are, but I think dps-wise DB is the play

Just gotta „sacrifice“ a gcd more

[tardy lark]

Or try to pool a little rage before the next pack

[terse ether]

Cataclysmic signet or Might of the ocean for m+ ? The other slot is augury

[mossy fox]

TR feels good to play though

but yeah i haven't really touched that talent this whole patch

DB ST too strong

[subtle lagoon]

heck yeah 97 parse on fyrak

[tardy lark]

TR on Dathea was 🍆

We have to do Dathea again next patch

[sudden tusk]

fated seasons should bring back shit like challange modes so i can get the couldsong glaive

[tender seal]

no issues at all?

guess i might do it... rolling with 25% vers might help alot too i guess

[summer bobcat]

would the cursor macro for spear make it as ez as roar?

[tender seal]

doing [@player] is probrably the easiest

[cosmic adder]

grieftorch shall rise again

[tender seal]

Hmm i guess its not that bad. First hit trucks for 350k~ but the dot afterwards only ticks for 160k.

[empty crest]

thoughts on running the 30s cd reduction on roar for igira?

[misty parcel]

Hey theren why everyone goes for might of the ocean instead of ashes ?

[oblique trail]

Because it's the most consistent trinket

[sullen dove]

Cuz ashes is… bad

and we aren’t a 2 minute class

[oblique trail]

It aligns perfectly with your CDs, gives a massive strength roid which is the best stat for AoE

[misty parcel]

Alright !

[sullen dove]

[uncut ferry]

Topic: Does "Incandescent Essence" do more damage (head enchant) based on helm ilvl? Is so - does socket increase it further more in that means :)?

[timid forge]

it scales by ilvl but im not sure about the socket

[unreal onyx]

I think it’s dependant on ilvl only

[oblique trail]

Its only ilvl

[peak halo]

Is siming Dungeon Slice working for fury?

[willow cradle]

Yeah, it sims what it sims perfectly well

The issue is that it's not an accurate portrayal of m+

[deep niche]

Just sim st

And use brains

[blissful patrol]

Yeah I was siming a lot with dungeon slice and it can be misleading

ST is just better tbh with patchwerk @peak halo

[timid forge]

i like that .... "it sims what it sims"

[tawdry lily]

Why'd you have to remind me about that.....

[keen garnet]

Have anyone tried Dagger-fury in S3 yet at least 460 ilvl or higher? 🙂
Last season worked fine but was horrible on ST, curious how the new set and the new trinkets could work.

Simming it is one thing, and I cant find anything said about it in here.

[sand crest]

wdym? people love talking about smf on here

: )

[coarse epoch]

smf stole my job and fuked my wife. i hate smf

[clever belfry]

not as much as i hate tom

[keen garnet]

Yeah I noticed that, and I do love that it shows up more in search now. 😉 But was curious about dagger setup. will prob give SMF a shot later on, but I am still annoyed they removed the 1.8 attackspeed weapoins. 😦

[oblique trail]

Throwback to the SMF Dagger theorycrafter on DF launch

[sand crest]

I mean its the same as always, theres no reason why a dagger setup wouldnt work, but it just wont compete with TG

[tardy lark]

the 800 Tswift pulls was a mere setback

[keen garnet]

@oblique trail yeah it was nice, I worked from that and tweaked it a bit every season. ❤️

@sand crest ofc not, but was curious if it still sucks big time on singeltarget, or if the new ilvls, effects and tiers solves that. 😄 would love to take it into raid without being ashamed of my dps, S2 m+ it worked pretty damn flawless but my hands hated it.

[sullen dove]

Bro pinged the wrong bonzai

[keen garnet]

oh shit. am I dead now?

[sullen dove]

start writing your will

[oblique trail]

I tried to sim just for memes

and I lose 23k dps

[sullen dove]

[oblique trail]

swapping from my current weapons to 2x daggers

[wild mural]

It’s on my list

[oblique trail]

Which is like

12%?

[sullen dove]

yea I mean idk in what word losing like 1500 mainstat is the play

[keen garnet]

is that on a SMF build?

[oblique trail]

yes ofc

[sullen dove]

ignoring anything else

[oblique trail]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7ypqD1RYBvJgzCJ1AooZgc
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wWhMo8A5dFyzutKjhrdouJ

[sullen dove]

daggers don’t have strength

lol

[wild mural]

SMF bis

[keen garnet]

traded for more auto-attacks and rage mainly, sadly we dont have trinkets that can pop insane anymore, everything got internal cooldowns nowdays.

[oblique trail]

I mean it'll make the rotation feel more smooth probably

But your damage will become dookie

[wild mural]

High value

[tender seal]

Best SMF setup tbf

[keen garnet]

If you got time, can you try swap to this embelishment on weapons? Fang Adornments or is that too much work perhaps?

[oblique trail]

I can try

Just picked those weapons because they're 489

[tender seal]

why is it we are talking about SMF?

[keen garnet]

as long as it aint int-daggers we gucci, their damage is way lower. 😉

[mossy fox]

benzai why your sim so weak

[tender seal]

the only thing you gain from SMF is more movespeed in exchange for more mainstat and stamina?

[oblique trail]

Because I'm windfuryless

and I have no trinkets

or lego

[mossy fox]

wow..........

[tender seal]

Cus his RL told him to hold dps

[tawdry lily]

why do you hate me aagaard

[oblique trail]

yeah..

I watched the clip again

mistake

[tender seal]

that clip hurts

[wild mural]

SMF sim strong

[tender seal]

everywhere

[mossy fox]

spear into stop dps

i didn't quite reach 230k this week

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w83Ska2fxh2AGffcA8GAfi

[oblique trail]

The cloak/wrists was to replace my shadowflame and allied wrists

It was a 700 dps gain

Both daggers have fang adornment

[tawdry lily]

when did cerulean sea food become a thing or am i just that out of the loop

[keen garnet]

hm. so its worse with fangs? dang it.

[oblique trail]

It's like

[mossy fox]

secondary stat food has been better for me since aberrus

[oblique trail]

ever so slightly better with 2x fangs

[unreal onyx]

With rezans you would

[tawdry lily]

i genuinely have never seen any other food used and didnt even know it was a thing

[oblique trail]

I would be 224k if I had windfury

[tawdry lily]

but using that food breaks me over 230k https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oTvBEd9JDVuEk2ddBvnYED

[oblique trail]

gg you know why

also

[keen garnet]

I just gotta figure out what kind of trinkets would benefit the most from all that white-hits, not sure if its even possible to procc trinkets more, or if the internal cooldowns/PPM is a gate that cant be passed even with x3 more attacks per minute.

[oblique trail]

you really have both augury and brand

ofc

you sim giga compared to me

[mossy fox]

nah the rezan is same as augury

[oblique trail]

And you also got 2x 486 Shadowflame

If I had Brand (and WF) we'd basically sim the same

smh

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/srEzQqqA5T5FLkf6QEjS7s

How is my sim so low

[tender seal]

phial 🙂

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vs59avVMk99yNDKmBNWJsz

Still kinda low

Simming on phone, flask looked the same

[lost bison]

mr cake was simming with corrupting rage, so some sim diff there as well

[unreal onyx]

222.069 (nice) with corrupting rage

[lost bison]

other than that, he has like 4 more sockets than u

[mossy fox]

i had wrong neck equipped, pog
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9LHqpnzf8iNVyhseyG6PLC

[unreal onyx]

1 socket is like 900dps iirc

[oblique trail]

It's clearly because you don't have a socket in your head to increase your enchants damage

🐀

[wild mural]

I’m so far behind

[lost bison]

think ur wep enchants are kinda weird too

but maybe im out of the loop

[oblique trail]

I got Earthen simming the best as well

But not sophic

[unreal onyx]

Thats what simmed best at the time

[mossy fox]

earthen writ can sim best sometimes

[tardy lark]

You're the man. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise

positive reinforcement

[lost bison]

wafting = button go faster

= more gooder

[unreal onyx]

You‘ll gap us all mext week with ur leggo

[oblique trail]

Wafting = bis for 3rd boss DHT

[tawdry lily]

my performance on fyrakk was so we take it

[tardy lark]

Mine just tastes like bench

[tawdry lily]

no shot

[oblique trail]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gpg5HVahJeRrPgt1UsLAzX Can't do better than this

gg you know why

[tardy lark]

Got to play Tswift for 400 pulls though

[oblique trail]

Pretty sure HC brand would've pushed me above 230k

[tender seal]

just loot lego lol

[clever belfry]

bench for fyrakk?

sad

[tardy lark]

thoroughly enjoyed that, even though i had to play rogue

[tawdry lily]

[tardy lark]

Yeah benched for a balance druid

idk man

[clever belfry]

i mean balance

[unreal onyx]

All those sockets

[clever belfry]

giga carries the adds

[tardy lark]

think they wanted to make intermissions as painless as possible

[clever belfry]

yea

[unreal onyx]

I gotta take some from my vault soon

[oblique trail]

It's called bad vaults

Don't be envious

[lost bison]

u got benched for balance on fyrakk?

[spare otter]

How does augury SIM less than rezan for me

[tawdry lily]

ye but you end up needing add damage less and less

[spare otter]

I swear my Rezan does fuck all dmg

[tardy lark]

the 2 other druids is typhoons enough though lol

[tardy lark]

Yellow class bad 🤷‍♀️

xd

[lost bison]

oh assumed u were talking about warrior

[unreal onyx]

I can get +800 dps from myth boe boots

[wild mural]

I told my raid leader to find a new warrior

[lost bison]

either way, sub rogue shits on fyrakk compared to boomie

[tawdry lily]

most things shit on boomie on fyrakk

[wild mural]

So I can cancel sub

[tardy lark]

Ye. I played sub on Tswift, so im hella confused about the choice

but im the new guy, so wcyd

[unreal onyx]

CEyi

[timber swan]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dJujxpAdxs7yuGnoM4eL2s

[unreal onyx]

Last real tier of df

[timber swan]

geared for m+ tho

but + for leggo 😄

[dapper jacinth]

[tender seal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mwcyx8aW76bHYX11dM5omS SMF stronk

[lost bison]

yeah that sounds cooked, sub rogue was insane for us on fyrakk, and that was even before the assa nerfs coming this wednesday

[wild mural]

CEyi dream is deadge

[clever belfry]

nice 589 offhand bro

[tender seal]

why u gotta ruin it man

[unreal onyx]

Dont let your dreams be dreams

Kill the dragon

[tender seal]

https://tenor.com/view/allenxandria-theres-no-fun-to-be-had-here-gif-23231859

[tardy lark]

Yeah. I think 2nd sub rogue would be better in any scenario. Can even go Shuriken Tornado for add damage at a minor ST loss if needed, but meh

it dies tonight or tmr

hopefully rank 20

[proud vessel]

What do you guys play in M+ Bloodcraze, Slaughtering Strikes or Fresh Meat?
And why? 😄

[tawdry lily]

rank 20 and 21 went too NA

[tardy lark]

yeah overtiming menaces lol

Even have Next Step using future farm raids for prog the coming days

[clever belfry]

bro i dont even know what u mean

[lost bison]

i heard the term CyaEveryday for the first time this tier

[tardy lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/776087521800093696/1185721395771093042/image.png?ex=6590a41a&is=657e2f1a&hm=eb551b69bc6c37e22ea770454462174363e2dd809e2d1f9a98fc17a3646c82be&

3 day raiding guild btw

[tawdry lily]

wait, people actually use the calender function?

[clever belfry]

bro has not paid attention to EU raiding ever ig

[unreal onyx]

RL cant count to 3

[tardy lark]

yeah same

we had 1 hour of overtime cause Tswift kill was close pre nerf

[unreal onyx]

My guild also only uses ingame calendar

[tardy lark]

i think its just easier to do that for xmas times instead of sending people dates idk

[tawdry lily]

i actually dont even know how to open up the calender and do it on accident

disc has a function that shows times relative to you

idk how the fuck to do it but ye

[unreal onyx]

Click on the top right icon on your minimap

[lost bison]

pretty much everyone in top 30 raids more than they say they do, but i only knew of project to be the biggest villains

[tender seal]

wtf is this

[tardy lark]

TNS raid sched

[clever belfry]

only thing project does is out of hours heroic

[tender seal]

looks like a fuck you to christmas 😄

[unreal onyx]

We might be able to kill smoldy tomorrow, then right into prison

[tardy lark]

vodka starting raid 10pm on a saturday

[clever belfry]

<t:1702902540:R>

[lost bison]

yeah, raiding 1-2 days of heroic first week or two surely still makes you a 3 day guild since u only raid mythic on those days

[tawdry lily]

yea that

[clever belfry]

<t:1702902540:R>
with the long number just being unix time

i believe

[lost bison]

this tier they also borrowed a lot of time from the future to put in more raids

[tawdry lily]

honestly that shit was a life saver for having eu and NA people in a guild

[clever belfry]

i dont think theyre a 3 day guild, just like my guild isnt "2day"
But theyre not the worst offender at all

[tardy lark]

did Almarac ditch

[clever belfry]

funny thing about project heroics is they legit have 10 men afk cause they are doing diff shit xd

[tawdry lily]

i know nothing of the alma story tbh

[lost bison]

depends how you view it i guess

[tardy lark]

F

[lost bison]

top 15-30 kinda plays a different game than top 1-15

[clever belfry]

say what you want about project, their mythic raiding time is spent very well

[tardy lark]

Them killing bosses in half the pulls of other guilds is impressive no matter how you view it

[tender seal]

huh... Great Cerulian Sea is 500dps increase lol. Guess i should stock up and stop eating the feasts

[lost bison]

they are good obviously, just very big offenders in terms of raiding more than they say

[lost bison]

just a shame head enchant came out so early

[hasty path]

Due to the removal of heroic week basically every 2 day guild now has a heroic day. As long as you keep mythic strictly to 2 days, you’re still a 2 day guild

[clever belfry]

no youre not.

[lost bison]

skews the "how many pulls did it take this guild" stat a lot

[tardy lark]

Yeah agreed

[clever belfry]

if you organize guild raids that are ""mandatory"" on more than 2 days unless you move it from another week DURING PROG

youre not a 2 day guild

[hasty path]

Define mandatory

Because it’s “optional”

In most places

[clever belfry]

if you dont have hc loot from splits

youre not playing

on prog

= mandatory

[silent burrow]

We are a 2 day and we legit only raid the 2 days, regardless of if we are pulling heroic or not

[clever belfry]

like my guild played 3 days in week2/3

so we're not a 2 day guild

no matter how much people cope themselves into it

[hasty path]

Idk I don’t consider an extra hour and a half of heroic to be a true extra day personally

[clever belfry]

its fine to be wrong

[hasty path]

Based

[wild mural]

My dreams are memes

[digital bronze]

Is it int to play roar on smolderon? Feels like I can rarely stand in spear during intermissions, keep getting forced to jump out after a couple globals

Considering doing it for prog then swapping back to spear when I won’t get yelled at for standing in a ring with ER on

[tender seal]

No its not.

[timber swan]

2days = 48 hours so long u raid less then 48 hours u are still a 2 day guild

[lost bison]

one spear or two in intermission is gonna be scuffed if u do it right

[tender seal]

But if you are switching to spear after prog, why not just practice it?

[lost bison]

would guess that spear is stronger regardless, but the difference should be pretty minor if ur in a guild progressing that boss right now

[digital bronze]

First intermission is the main one that feels bad, we keep wiping after second so

[silent burrow]

Just get spell warding and stand in it

[digital bronze]

Prepared to stand in it with ER on but the that would be wasting a personal xdd

[tender seal]

What do you need ER for, besides this?

[tawdry lily]

tank soak

[silent burrow]

just press IV lol

[tender seal]

ER for tank soak? sounds like something that happens if someone else fucks up and misses it

but i could be wrong 😄

[tawdry lily]

considering it allows you to remove the mechanic in 2 globals

[digital bronze]

Not to live it but could help remove the heal absorb if one of your healers fucks up and dies

[tawdry lily]

🤷‍♂️

[digital bronze]

/ yours just doesn’t get removed

[tawdry lily]

its just the safer thing for progression

[tender seal]

cant u just IV it of

[silent burrow]

You can just iv it and it takes like 90% of the absorb off lol

[digital bronze]

No it’s an 800k absorb

[tawdry lily]

it does not take 90% of it off

[digital bronze]

Iv is like

Half

Maybe

[silent burrow]

lol okay

[tawdry lily]

i mean if you wanna parse on prog,sure

ER world in flames

[lost bison]

do that which you think will be best for your guilds progression

[digital bronze]

Sounds like I should just play spear and jump out though haha

[lost bison]

which is probably dont use ur personal to get a slight damage increase when that boss is probably pretty rough for ur healers

[digital bronze]

We move

[tawdry lily]

after awhile you get used to leaping it

[digital bronze]

Need people to learn to stop standing on top of orb spawn portals first

[tender seal]

i saw archi's log - he consistently leaps the exact same time as smolderon jumps into the air, and lands on the second ring, then gets knocked to outer ring. Looks smoothe af

[lost bison]

we talking about start of intermission?

[tender seal]

ye

[queen lichen]

Whats up

[lost bison]

can just hit boss, get knocked back, wait a slight moment, and charge back

and ur orbs will be fine

[digital bronze]

That knockback is always the same right

I swear sometimes I feel like I get sent way further

[silent burrow]

your buff wears off before spear is up if you do this i1

[digital bronze]

Might be brain afk jumping just before it hits me

[tawdry lily]

did you jump when he did the knock

[eternal sundial]

u need to go edge of ring 2 iirc

[digital bronze]

I don’t think so? But that is probably the only likely cause

[eternal sundial]

like outer edge

or was it ring 3 idfk

[oblique trail]

If you jump then you will be sent to Narnia

If you don't jump, it's like the width of a ring you get knocked or so

[digital bronze]

Ok so if you wanna go to edge

[tawdry lily]

tbf getting sent to almost narnia is good for I1

[digital bronze]

Edge of 1 ring in?

[eternal sundial]

if you land in lava u are turbodead

[silent burrow]

Narnia seems like a cool place ngl

[eternal sundial]

fwiw

[digital bronze]

Yeah happened to me once

[eternal sundial]

twice for me

[digital bronze]

Had 3rd mythic orb, tried to run out a bit further

Into lava, deadge

Knocked into lava*

[subtle lagoon]

Juicy pointss

[fiery jetty]

gratz!!

[livid fiber]

Warri is so weak in M+ atm. Sadge..

[subtle lagoon]

Next week is going to feel sadder

not too bad atm though

[livid fiber]

i know...

[tepid vine]

What affixes are next week? I was thinking incorp or afflicted should be coming up soon

[livid fiber]

Incorp + Spiteful

[digital bronze]

Prot week

[tepid vine]

well I need some more prot tyran keys so it works out for me lol

[livid fiber]

i´m gonna play like 8 times a +20 for weekly and try this "IRL" ppl are talking about so often 😄

[night egret]

Wait leg

After Leg its pretty good

I saw that on a ret in 27 wm

It was dealing 9% of his dmg with dot…

[livid fiber]

We´ll see (Maybe last week of S3) 😄

[silver meadow]

!wa

[floral summit]

guys, you have issues that big wigs do not display tracker on flame shock for mindbender in tott?

[fallow oracle]

i saw yall were linking sims earlier

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/82YtbyDpVXVvrry4KGE8yc

[eternal sundial]

no belt socket ...

[fallow oracle]

no belt no ring socket

its joever

[eternal sundial]

fr

into m+ jail for u

grind till 240

[fallow oracle]

never farming for a socket piece from m+ in my life

ill farm a trinket but thats as far as ill go

legendary does slap on tindral tho

did like 19k dps average

[river reef]

bitch go rest get off discord

[eternal sundial]

i slept till 13

after calling work

[river reef]

[eternal sundial]

check arm chat for content

[river reef]

?

[narrow narwhal]

I miss Psyduck phil

[river reef]

same

[eternal sundial]

i forgor to migrate psyduck to my new pc

but i can do that rn

[mossy fox]

return of psyduck phil?

[eternal sundial]

maybe

[river reef]

find a christmas psyduck

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-christmas-happy-holidays-merry-christmas-pokemon-gif-24249497

[eternal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/psyduck-balance-pokemon-gif-19358762

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/powercat-catpower-gif-13874994171711907652

[narrow narwhal]

We are so back Psyduck bros

[cunning moth]

How big is spear over TR on smoldering mythic ?

[forest owl]

on mythic smolderon, is it worth to take the inner ring hit to get your cds off with dmg buff and just heal yourself with ER?

[eternal sundial]

ye

[forest owl]

yeah i was seeing critcakes video he ate the ring hit to do cds, time to make my healers panic xD

[terse ether]

Cataclysmic signet or Might of the ocean for m+ ? The other slot is augury

[eternal sundial]

might but signet is good in some keys if u chain well

[terse ether]

so signet if tank is good and no Tott 😛

[oblique trail]

For farm sure you can do this, for prog just play safe

Getting in 2 more globals during your buff wont be the difference between killing him or not

[hazy storm]

for legednary farm is it better to jsut do heroic first?

[frigid cipher]

if you do heroic, you don't have to do normal and LFR

so it would be faster yes

[atomic nymph]

Neither option gives you a "Better" chance of getting it, so HC is faster, generally reccomended way to go about it

[wild mural]

WE ARE SO BACK

[slim coral]

We allowed to post gifs again?

[eternal sundial]

Only me and only psyduck

[ember apex]

yeah but what if u get some lesser tokens from LFR/Normal first and then u full clear heroic

idk im doing lfr full then normal then heroic full

it feels like im getting more

but i don't have the legendary

u should listen to people that have the legendary they know what to do

[oblique trail]

Yeah I'm sure they know just as much as those who don't

When it's literally just kill Fyrakk and loot it or don't

[wild mural]

im not answering that for legal reasons

[ember apex]

there's bad luck protection mechanics and minmaxing. i think im correct about it (or at least close) but i dont have the legendary to prove it

so im saying u should listen to ppl who have the legendary and do what they did

[unreal onyx]

99% of people that have the legendary can't answer your question or give you info

[oblique trail]

Yes but when no one knows, or will ever know or find out what the %'s are except Blizzard, there is zero reason to hypothesise or lose sleep over trying to min/max the legendary when it's literally just "Kill Fyrakk on highest difficulty for the week"

[frigid cipher]

they just rolled better with rng

[clever belfry]

people who got lego did:

• the raid

[frigid cipher]

[ember apex]

unless they got it from mythic. which is the obv answer from getting CE. then yes they can b/c that's how most of us are gonna get it lets be honest

[unreal onyx]

kill hc until you have myth on lock

even myth isn't guaranteed

[ember apex]

im saying excluding CE

[oblique trail]

How does someone who got it on the first reset of the lego being available know more than we do or someone who got it this reset

[clever belfry]

they did 14 laps around oribos

with a PB of 52s

[oblique trail]

Did their BLP tokens do something special that granted them wisdom that they've just not bestowed upon us?

[unreal onyx]

they are clearly the better player

[clever belfry]

and then they got it

[red berry]

a crumb of legendary blizzard

it'd be nice if they would show the math, but

we wont know and RNG can punish you until it doesnt

[wild mural]

forbidden knowledge

[ember apex]

i dont get this question. their method of getting (whatever the F it was) is a proven method that works. the evidence is that they have the legendary

[oblique trail]

You are just trying to delude yourself

Stop immediately

[wild mural]

im deluded in that I would ever get it

[oblique trail]

Lindwar who we've seen type multiple times in here as one of the first people to get it, did not do some hidden mechanics and ultra min/max strategies to get it

He killed him

And looted it

[ember apex]

im "trying" to get the legendary

[mossy fox]

you kill fyrakk on the highest difficulty you can each week and either loot it or you don't, just like you either win the lottery or you don't

you don't go and ask the lottery winners what technique they used to scratch the lottery ticket

[wild mural]

any none fyrakk killers this week

[mossy fox]

they just got lucky and won

[oblique trail]

Great I can probably find someone who has the same amount of kills with the axe, same amount of kills with no axe, fewer kills with the axe and fewer kills with no axe

[ember apex]

Is that really it? Lottery

[oblique trail]

Yes

It's RNG

With incremental gains per attempt from the BLP

[wild mural]

I saw some guy who has killed fyrakk once on HC with a boost run and got it

[unreal onyx]

I bet you can find people that bought exactly 1 aotc boost and got the leggo

[wild mural]

does that mean I just gotta go get boosted

[ember apex]

So how do I buy more lottery tickets than everyone else

[oblique trail]

You can't

[unreal onyx]

just make 10 alts and kill it every week

and then make your main around getting it first

[coarse nest]

Let me ask the hpal in my guild who looted it on first kill without any blp whatsoever, surely he knows the tech

[ember apex]

Mod him tbh

[ashen schooner]

guys is the description of rampage bugged? it says it improves ur next 2 rb or bt but in reallity it imporves 1, i recall in s1 being 2 rg but the talent that improves that says 1 improved and the rampage tooltip says 2, i know its only 1 gameplywhise but wanna know what happened, if it was tunned or whatever

[wild mural]

im gonna go suck 17 dicks and loot in on LFR

and share it on reddit

[coarse nest]

You guys won’t even believe this next bit

The second looter of axe in our guild was our rshams ALT HPAL

[oblique trail]

The correct amount is 1 improved Bloodthirst or Raging Blow

[coarse nest]

Omfg

[oblique trail]

It was changed going into S3

[coarse nest]

[wild mural]

holy moly

[ember apex]

Are there any LFR only raiders who have it?

[ashen schooner]

ty, cause i know its 1 but dont know when they canged it

[oblique trail]

The charges went from 2 to 1, but the increase of damage on the improved ability was doubled

[wild mural]

probably

[ember apex]

I can't fathom

[ashen schooner]

ty very much that answers perfectly ty ty

[ashen schooner]

ive only seen 1 in hc and 2 in nm but there has to be plenty people that got it from lfr

those lucky bastards

[ember apex]

Yeah got it in LFR is fine

But only raid LFR

[coarse nest]

.01% lfr

[ember apex]

Is what I was asking

[wild mural]

It's very possible

[ember apex]

1 in every 1000 LFR Andy's are getting it

[wild mural]

but long story short idk

no one knows

you either get it or you dont

[ashen schooner]

is there anywhere i can check the % and the amount it helps the bad luck protection?

[oblique trail]

No

[ashen schooner]

wanna know the stat

[oblique trail]

And no one knows

[wild mural]

no one knows

[coarse nest]

No blizzard didn’t give us that information

[ashen schooner]

fucking blizzard, no buffs no info

[oblique trail]

It'd only work against you knowing the % as well

[wild mural]

that's mental boom territory

[oblique trail]

And it wouldn't change you killing the boss each week or not

[ember apex]

Yo guys is this even the version of the leggo that we want. What about fated leggo

[pulsar prawn]

wm or tides better reflect key

[coarse nest]

Imagine you’re up to 80% chance and you don’t loot it, then 85% and you don’t loot

[ember apex]

Tides has to be best reflect key imo

[oblique trail]

Tides easily the giga'st reflect key

[coarse nest]

Mental would be fucked

[oblique trail]

If your RNG is good on 3rd boss

[ember apex]

Yeah I love Tides spell reflect

[ashen schooner]

for fated i hope u get like a token or something and it upgrades it into the fated one, if i have to play again im gonna drop wow

[mossy fox]

throne is huge for reflects yeah

[eternal sundial]

Throne good key

[ember apex]

Getting the sentinels to reflect the drowning shit is giga OP

I love it

[wild mural]

like with the legendary bow

[oblique trail]

Just pure despair though seeing the disparity between good and bad RNG on the 3rd boss

[pulsar prawn]

yeah tides has bigger reflects .. but depends on rng..

[ashen schooner]

yeah thats it i want it to be like in shadowlands

[oblique trail]

One pull SR can do 3-4 mill if not more, another pull it never goes on you with SR up

[ember apex]

Wracking pain on yazma also poggers

[mossy fox]

reflects on the last boss with a tank you can trust is also giga

i was doing 2 mill reflects on cd on last boss in tott

[true sapphire]

This is my favorite. My healer hates when they don't cast depths on me after he saw me reflect it once

[ember apex]

Red pill us on this tech plz

[wild mural]

imagine doing keys

[hoary canopy]

which spell do you guys reflect at throne ?

[oblique trail]

Crushing Depths from the Sentinels, Flame Shock on the 3rd boss

And the Ink Bolt from last boss

[wild mural]

I 've done nearly as many keys on my priest as my warr

[oblique trail]

But Ink Bolt you have to taunt and run out of melee as iirc?

[mossy fox]

you run out of melee range, taunt spell reflect, tank needs to taunt back immediately

[ember apex]

Hmm

[mossy fox]

because that boss can't move, he casts if his target is out of range

[ashen schooner]

what happens if tank doesnt inta taunt?

[mossy fox]

you get a 2nd bolt and you die

[ember apex]

Oh that's sick AF

[oblique trail]

Just ER it

👴

[dire badge]

[wild mural]

[ashen schooner]

[mossy fox]

i'm not sure you survive a 2 million hit

[tulip swallow]

you have to be wearing a 2H + shield for it to drop, it's like holding the B button in pokemon

[wild mural]

skill issue

[ornate thorn]

we tried that, but boss was shooting like machine gun

[mossy fox]

uh

nice pfp

[ornate thorn]

❤️‍🔥

[ember apex]

I would've assumed he smacks another precious melee

[mossy fox]

tank can and should taunt mid-cast

[ashen schooner]

tott last boss casts ranged shit if there is no tank in melee ramge right? thats the tech for the reflect

[mossy fox]

once boss starts casting, that cast is locked on to you

[ember apex]

Ty for the explainer

[ashen schooner]

war community is the best by far tbh, while playing other classes i dont get this much tips

love u guys

[true sapphire]

Other classes are FoTM, so only like a dozen of them actually know and they don't want their class to be nerfed, they don't want others to be good lol

[wild mural]

I find disc priests are quite helpful

but thats about it

[left perch]

entire evoker discord too

smartest chefs ever over there

[eternal sundial]

[wild mural]

scalies

[ashen schooner]

prob it's something about classes that aren't usually meta and they want more people to have fun playing their class

[left perch]

I didn’t say the specific spec Phil

[wild mural]

obvs theres some secret dev tech

[ashen schooner]

poor dest evokers outshined by their new brother

[coarse nest]

Tank can taunt back during cast bar on you?

[mossy fox]

yes

[coarse nest]

Perfect thanks for tech!

[spare otter]

489 rezans or 483 might for smold?

[coarse nest]

Ilvl good but might makes your damage phase pretty large

[spare otter]

Yea that's what I thinking

[coarse nest]

Assuming prog will take a while could play around with both

[spare otter]

Like idk if the passive during dmg phase and through out is better than having might just on dmg phase

[silent burrow]

So close https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gkcPTGMgt9FcGdiVebvSQw

[velvet crypt]

Simming more than ww and mm BIS lists

[silent burrow]

[ember apex]

isnt MM the worst spec in the entire game

[velvet crypt]

probably not

[eternal sundial]

padded sim number with lego

[silent burrow]

I would assume ww is

[eternal sundial]

i get mine soon

[cunning rune]

true

same

[eternal sundial]

canhas u need to guild to give u better items

[meager gyro]

Worst spec in games is arms

[restive peak]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1iDSC7ZPABuzsMeJqg1yvC

Surely leggo drops tm

And this becomes me

[past pivot]

Jinx

[cunning rune]

the legendary comes in you

[unreal onyx]

is next week spark or catalyst week

[past pivot]

spark

[restive peak]

Aka useless at this point already 😦

[past pivot]

nah

[cunning rune]

next week is like engi bracers week

atleast for me

after that its kinda eh

[unreal onyx]

how many catalyst charges are we at rn?

i didn't use any yet and am at 2

[cosmic lance]

Should have 3?

[thick nova]

Every time I see class updates it's like warrior didn't exist

[unreal onyx]

I need the catalyst for tmog only anyway

but I wanna finish sets

[past pivot]

Because there's a leggo axe to tune

[velvet crypt]

Class tuning lego classes when a grand total of 4 people has the lego is kinda troll

[pulsar turtle]

What’s the legendary drop rate again for heroic

[velvet crypt]

ret paladin 3% buff too

[past pivot]

4? lol That's funny

[dull sierra]

There is no drop rate

[past pivot]

We don't know

[velvet crypt]

I hope u know what overexagurating/irony is

[dull sierra]

Just consider it 50/50

You get it/you don’t get it

[velvet crypt]

either u get it or u donrt

yessir

[pulsar turtle]

Makes sense. Annoying af

[dull sierra]

Why?

It’s something you’ll get eventually

[meager gyro]

By that logic, run lfr then normal then heroic and then mythic fryyakk

[past pivot]

Hopefully

[dull sierra]

No

[past pivot]

That's the dumb way tbh

[cunning rune]

heroic first i think

[humble plover]

Just be like me. Go into this week really confident with the power of positive thinking, only to be crushed further when the holy pally gets it

[pulsar turtle]

For keys I’d appreciate it asap since warrior dmg lacks vs Meta a lot

[meager gyro]

That's more 50/50s

[thick nova]

The highest difficulty is all that's required

[dull sierra]

Run heroic and you get 3 50/50s

Run normal you get 2

Run lfr you get 1

[meager gyro]

No you get one better chance if you go heroic first

[past pivot]

no

[dull sierra]

No

[meager gyro]

Yes

[dull sierra]

No

[past pivot]

No

[dull sierra]

Heroic gives you all the chances from the other difficulties

[thick nova]

Is it still being guaranteed in mythic or was that only the first kills per region

[dull sierra]

First kills

[meager gyro]

bY 50/50 LoGiC YeS

[thick nova]

Thought so

[left perch]

do we have to do this

every day

[olive wraith]

You get a higher chance if you finish fyrak while doing a headstand 12 minutes after the hour

[dull sierra]

Yes

[past pivot]

It's not 50/50. That's a generalality.

[left perch]

god I hope leggo is never given to warrior again

[urban tapir]

[pulsar turtle]

Who in here actually has it already?

[meager gyro]

You either get it or don't

[humble plover]

So the drop chance is actually kill the boss and get it or don't and get over it

[meager gyro]

So do all the attempts you can

And make 5 alts

50/50

[humble plover]

Go ahead

Knock your lights out

[meager gyro]

I already have I am done with the alts I have to pug them and the amount of time it takes to kill one boss sucks ass

Just play SMF and be happy

[humble plover]

No happy

Only rage

[past pivot]

Ah. SMF. That explains your thought process on the how the leggo works. I pity your family.

[meager gyro]

Play your big thick girthy axe 🪓

[humble plover]

Someone's gotta love them

[past pivot]

Actually, the play should be to go SMF in a few weeks if the leggo hasn't dropped. "Legendary? Pft. It's not very good anyway. SMF is the way."

[silent burrow]

[humble plover]

Yo lemme hold on to that rq canhas

[silent burrow]

I'll never let go, this thing sucked to make lol

[tidal kindle]

To be fair, if we are truly tuned around the lego - having it not be a guaranteed acquisition kinda

?

[humble plover]

Oh I meant ur butt 😉

[clever path]

is there any reason to do lfr or normal if you killed frrack on heroic for instance.

[past pivot]

Shadowmourne wasn't hard, did it on a few toons

[silent burrow]

[ember apex]

are u using legion leggo shoulders on purpose or do u think they match

[tidal kindle]

For fun 👍

[silent burrow]

DIdn't mean sm lol

[past pivot]

Only for an Augury

[clever path]

i has heroic aug 🙂

[past pivot]

then no

[meager gyro]

I did the math, leggo drops at 0.3% and stacks are a 0.011 increase. With 230,000 warriors killing every week. My data is beyond reproach. Do all difficulties because it will drive you crazy faster, not because it is better likelihood.

[humble plover]

Don't let him cook

[flat river]

someone mentioned cooking?

[silent burrow]

[red berry]

ive decided that if i don’t get it tomorrow, im going to

[humble plover]

.... Going to what

[flat river]

[left perch]

hell yea

[left perch]

yea have to love playing a class, on prog, that is tuned around a leggo you don't get on prog (most likely)

[restive peak]

Surely Tindral dies tn guys

[modest condor]

surely

[mossy fox]

tonight nobody will die to fire beams, nobody will miss feather/get wrong orb, nobody will mess up dispels, no double seed soaks, no missed seed soaks

boss will just die

[humble plover]

It's been written so it will be

[restive peak]

I think it's bananas watching all of us prog it

[humble plover]

Grats in advance

[restive peak]

And even guilds that I expect to crush mine dying over and over to the same shit lol

[tidal kindle]

My discord name

In guild disc

[mossy fox]

lmao

[tepid scroll]

After opener on bosses do you OF on CD? Ever wait for it to align with Reck/Ava or does the classic 5-10 second rule apply or damage amp phase incoming?

[tidal kindle]

You can play around stolen feathers/orbs in p1 p2

P3 kinda scuffed

But you shouldn't have to ever

[gilded pawn]

On cd

[tidal kindle]

On CD if not holding for specific amps or self-freedom effects etc

[unreal onyx]

I just won the brh neck in a roll against 3 others with a 16

[restive peak]

The damage profile on Tindral also feels like shit, I hate sitting on CDs to break roots/burst roots down

[unreal onyx]

[restive peak]

and LOL

XD

Grz

[modest condor]

we had a mythic drop last night go to someone who rolled 23

[humble plover]

Powerful rolls

[unreal onyx]

16

10 6 and 2

how many s3 epics do I need for leggo to feed?

[restive peak]

20?

[past pivot]

20 iirc

[restive peak]

But you can like buy the gloves off the rep dude

and just use those

[past pivot]

yes

[unreal onyx]

oh

I started to collect a few since the questline got revealed

[wild mural]

lichtlos

[unreal onyx]

those are waiting to be reactivated in s4

eggnog ring with sockie + avoidance

[wild mural]

imagine getting tertiary

[unreal onyx]

leggo next week will fit nicely with my small collection

[humble plover]

Vendor collected all mine

[dire badge]

finally a good leggo

[unreal onyx]

im keeping all cool "rare" raid items I got so far

[dire badge]

[astral path]

Do you guys wait for dancing blades to fall of before popping avatar?

[modest condor]

no

[wild mural]

surely they make this viable so I didnt just waste 1.2m gold

[humble plover]

It's a sick mog?

Viable there

[clever path]

Good Morning Beatiful people

[wild mural]

I've got sick-er mogs tho

[unreal onyx]

that thing sold on my realm yesterday for 525k

[humble plover]

U got the other one syi?

[wild mural]

no

[unreal onyx]

those are the good ones

[humble plover]

[unreal onyx]

love crafting 2 of the same leggo for arms and fury

[wild mural]

I played warrior

4 sure

[humble plover]

I bought a sun lute to mog with ripper as an ultimate display of mog power. Don't use either

[edgy widget]

is that why it's not socketed? 🤔

[wild mural]

Yessir I didnt need no gems

[errant vessel]

What’s the addon that shows you how many you got across all chars

[wild mural]

Altoholic

[errant vessel]

Tyvm

[wild mural]

np

[flat sapphire]

I want those shoulds and the weapon

[wild mural]

best wep mog in the game

no cap

[humble plover]

I just want the wep

[flat sapphire]

I know

That's why I want

[humble plover]

Think t3 is doodoo

[flat sapphire]

Is there even any way yo get them

[humble plover]

Nope

[wild mural]

nope

unobtainable since wod

[tranquil vector]

I was told there was a change to food consumables for fury warriors - I can't seem to find any info on it but was wondering what our bis food was? Is it still the feast and if so what's the personal best one?

[unreal onyx]

surely unobtainable forever

[humble plover]

Not till they add it to the trading post with the spectral tiger

[unreal onyx]

you can sim foods, for many secondary food sims better than MS

[wild mural]

I want the spectral tiger so bad

[unreal onyx]

I don't

[wild mural]

I dont even care about if it was on the tp and it was super common

[unreal onyx]

i only care about it for the "prestige"

but if everyone gets it it's boring

[wild mural]

since I started playing thisn game 14 years ago it's been my favourite mount

it's all I've ever wanted

[unreal onyx]

i prefer my swift zulian panther appearance-wise

[wild mural]

I saw some guy with one when I was super new and it was the coolest shit

[unreal onyx]

the tiger/cat mounts are my fav kind

[humble plover]

Zul'ian tiger has some prestige and it's still 8 polygons that looks like ass

[wild mural]

tiger is unobtainable since cata? panther is obtainable to this day

[flat sapphire]

Just wait for twitch drops

[humble plover]

Ye

[flat sapphire]

[slim pollen]

Got mine from the "Landro's Gift" card that came with cata collectors edition 😛

[humble plover]

Pog

[wild mural]

all I want in life is my original lol acc back with sg ahri with bordewr

[humble plover]

All I want in life is to stop playing this game, find love and happiness.

Anyways I'll be at raid tomorrow night

[restive peak]

I need a taesalach man

[modest condor]

i just need fury to be S tier in m+ for once then i'm satisfied

like full on meta every top team runs one

[tepid scroll]

I think they should just make our damage our utility

[wild mural]

I dont want that

[humble plover]

That would be sick

[tepid scroll]

Maybe we don’t bring a lot to m+ but bonkers damage

[humble plover]

But I'm content with being competitive

And RN I don't feel competitive lol

[modest condor]

we've been "competitive" for several expansions now

i want to be meta for once

[wild mural]

I dont want us to be good im m+ cause then I dont have an excuse for sucking ass at m+

[unreal onyx]

if we don't get any util we will never be meta

[past pivot]

If fury was S+, every fotm re-roller would flock to the class and it would be unsufferable beyond belief imo. Just close to S+ is good enough.

[modest condor]

utility copers

[humble plover]

Nah man losing to BM hunter pressing multi shot does not feel competitive

[modest condor]

any spec can be meta if the numbers are high enough

[wild mural]

I dont wanna talk about how much I hate m+

[nova gazelle]

we will never come meta due to lack of large aoe compared to some classes

• uti

[modest condor]

you can have literally 0 utility and still be meta

[mossy fox]

same

[modest condor]

if you do 20% more dps than the rest

[nova gazelle]

wouldn't mind that but wont happen

[spare otter]

Remove all utility from warrior and make us always top dps tbh

[gilded pawn]

With bshout you just need to do 15% more

[modest condor]

oh you have a crystal ball?

[gilded pawn]

[nova gazelle]

no i've just given up hope

[errant vessel]

They just need to give all bosses spell reflectable tank mechanics with no risk of dying while doing it

[wild mural]

atleast you're good at it

[errant vessel]

Make spell reflect 30% of our dmg in keys

[humble plover]

When critmage

Main character class

[gilded pawn]

The crit lock era was lit

[humble plover]

Daddy blizzard says he doesn't pick favorites but we all know why mages get bigger birthday presents

[unreal onyx]

SL S3 WL

[wild mural]

I think mb it's time for me to be cringe again

[modest condor]

warlock still had utility

[clever path]

lock has a lot of utility

[modest condor]

aoe stuns, magic dispel, a kick, healthstones

[wild mural]

what we do here is go back

[unreal onyx]

so when was having no util ever really meta

[chilly fractal]

Did they stun everything

[clever path]

they have an off gcd kick too

[unreal onyx]

or at least util in the extend of warrior

[modest condor]

warrior also has utility

[clever path]

battleshout

er raid buff

[wild mural]

shockwave, storm bolt, int shout, rally

[nova gazelle]

elon musk has money and we have money but its not the same is it

[clever path]

elon also plays diablo 4 still

[chilly fractal]

What a monster

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/gingerbread-monster-shrek-gif-5917178

[dire badge]

they should just remove m+ queuing if you aren’t one of the 5 meta specs

[fading bane]

[dire badge]

weird that’s the least I’ve chatted but ok

[keen kindle]

R U N U R O W N K E Y S

[humble plover]

No

[frosty sparrow]

Where and when do you use the legendary during your opener ? Or do you even use it during your opener? Single target spec vs aoe spec .. ty Fury warrior

[dire badge]

no keys at all bud

[true sapphire]

Don't use it during opener.

[humble plover]

Maid log in they need a better warrior. I'm ass

[fading bane]

always chatting

[humble plover]

I'm a tornado eating gremlin

[wild mural]

no invite me to +29 im a meta spec

[keen kindle]

LMAO

[dire badge]

fair

[clever path]

maybe youre the only that keeps trying to que into my keys at 398 ilvl

[keen kindle]

Bros not even getting an invite to a 2

[wild mural]

what even are the meta specs

[keen kindle]

Bm, any mage, havoc

[clever path]

idk how people are still this low level, you can buy 421 ilvl gear from the ah for like 5k gold

[wild mural]

fuck yeahhh dude

[wild mural]

cause I cleared the raid twice in season 1 and didnt play the char since

[humble plover]

Guardian druids. Survival hunters. WW monks.

[keen kindle]

Ww monks LOL

[unreal onyx]

cleaned out my bags and now it looks so empty

[humble plover]

Those poor fuckers

[wild mural]

only the essentials

[unreal onyx]

definetly only essentials

[wild mural]

need my lucky major healing pot

[unreal onyx]

SL armor sets, 55 SL gems, linen cloth

[wild mural]

yep

essentials

[unreal onyx]

you're about ready to kill sylvanas

[wild mural]

mana pots on a hunter too

if I wanna annoy ppl inm this ga,e I just show em my bags

[humble plover]

I just talk when I wanna annoy people

[ember apex]

that's some WOTLK shit

iceweb spider silk frostweave cloth. runic mana/health potions

u been farming invnincible?

it doesnt drop off the spiders before sindragosa

[clever path]

why wont that dragon item go away after we click it

[wild mural]

yes

[unreal onyx]

5 sparks? you've been missing out

[ember apex]

in 2014 tho

so

[wild mural]

again its a char I dont play

[ember apex]

why u back in there

[wild mural]

I cleared the raid once on this in s2

cleared it once and still got this shit and never saw it on warrior

[ember apex]

S2 shadowlands was so boring after getting CE i leveled and geared my bank character in at least heroic raid gear

[wild mural]

in s1 I got every class with raid 4p

[ember apex]

thats cray

every class

nuts

i dont have the muscle memory to play more than like 3-4 classes max

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-touch-grass-alphabet-soup-meme-gif-25868068

[wild mural]

I think this char is my worst. Only 105 ilvl behind warr

[ember apex]

i did ww monk in season 1. i liked it

the ST is bad but thats not why u play it

i wanted to play my monk and the only spec i havent played on monk is mistweaver

but idk

[past pivot]

I have all 13 classes at 70. Lowest is at 424. 4 have 4p after this weekend.

[ember apex]

i feel like u need to be super sweaty to play mistweaver well

[clever path]

i think mw is easiest healing spec

[ember apex]

really?

i think hpal is easiest

then rsham

[clever path]

yeah, well one of them atleast

[ember apex]

then priests then mistweaver

and idk how to rank pres

[ember apex]

never played

[clever path]

i cant get into evoker

[ember apex]

the apm is too low

even for a caster

its like evoker was made for classic wow players to make the leap into retail

[clever path]

yeah and their defensives suck

[wild mural]

only warr and priest have s3 4p for me, druid is 2/2, evoker pal dk and mage are s2 4p, rest are s1 except arms who is s2 2p

[past pivot]

Augvoker was an interesting change. First time I hadn't mained a warrior. Got my leggy but missed the brown class so came back for the punishment.

[ember apex]

idk if u guys have played DH this season

w/ 4p

but their damage is disgusting

and how easy it is to do damage is also disgusting

like press 2-4 buttons and ur doing 500k dps

(in aoe)

[clever path]

warrior just feels fun to play, i always come back to it

[ember apex]

warrior is fun to play but we're doing so much more work than DH for our damage

thats what bugs me, like if i was doing a ton of off GCD stuff and hitting combos or something perfectly then its like ok fun the skill is the damage

but thats not the case

[clever path]

yeah but the purples will cry if they arent anything other than top 5

[ember apex]

we should do the same shit then

max said on his podcast that warrior should 100% be getting next rework

even though he plays monk he says warrior is more important

[wild mural]

can confirm ex purple

[night egret]

Fury has one of the simplest rotations in game

Just so high apm

Tiring fingers

[ember apex]

its unironically harder than arms

sry

not arms

DH

havoc

[wild mural]

I find arms tricky